PODCAST · health
Fear Less
by Zack Schafer
Welcome to the Fear Less podcast, a show dedicated to discussing anxiety, fear, and general mental well-being. In this podcast, host Zack Schafer sits down with clinical professionals, educators, parents, and individuals with anxiety to have meaningful conversations about fear and how to manage it. Through expert knowledge, personal stories, and practical everyday tips, Zack helps listeners gain the insight, confidence, and skills necessary to master their fears.Zack Schafer, MS, OTR/L, is a mental health occupational therapist and the executive director of Mountain Valley Treatment Center (MVTC), a non-profit residential treatment program for youth with debilitating anxiety. This podcast is sponsored by MVTC and aligns with the program's mission to help anxious young people to fear less and live fully.However, fear and anxiety don't just impact young people—they affect everyone. Our collective fears and anxieties shape the health of our communities and society as a whole. The Fear L
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106. The Hidden Anxiety in Competitive Sports: A Runner's Story of OCD, Fear, and Recovery
What happens when the pressure to succeed in sports quietly turns into anxiety, perfectionism, or OCD? In this powerful episode, Zack talks with elite runner, therapist, and former Olympic Trials marathoner Dr. Cali Werner about her personal journey growing up as a high-achieving athlete while secretly battling OCD and anxiety. From compulsive pre-race rituals and overwhelming fear of failure to intrusive thoughts and perfectionism, Cali shares how mental health struggles can hide behind athletic success for years. This episode is especially valuable for parents of athletes, coaches, and young people navigating competitive sports. Cali explains the difference between healthy routines and anxiety-driven rituals, how sports pressure can amplify OCD symptoms, and why early support matters. Zack and Cali also explore topics like reassurance seeking, shame, sports psychology, exposure therapy (ERP), identity outside of athletics, and how recovery is possible even after years of struggling. A hopeful and deeply relatable conversation for families trying to support anxious teens and young adults in sports. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from mixed martial artist and fighter Ronday Rousey to help you Fear Less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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105. Beyond the Autism Label: Helping Neurodivergent Young Adults Build Independence and Purpose
What does it really mean when a young adult receives a late diagnosis of Autism Spectrum Disorder? In this thought-provoking episode, host Zack sits down with clinical psychologist Eric Beaudoin, Psy.D., Executive Director of Cornerstones of Maine, to explore a growing trend in mental health: the rise of late autism diagnoses in teens and young adults. Together, they unpack the complex overlap between autism, developmental delays, anxiety, and social skill deficits—raising important questions about whether some individuals are being misdiagnosed due to limited life experience, environmental factors, or gaps in comprehensive assessment. More importantly, this episode shifts the focus away from labels and toward what truly matters: helping young people build meaningful, independent lives. Eric shares a powerful, function-first approach that emphasizes identity, purpose, and real-world engagement over diagnostic categories. For parents navigating uncertainty about their child's diagnosis—or wondering how best to support a struggling young adult—this conversation offers both clarity and hope, highlighting that growth, resilience, and capability are often far greater than a label might suggest. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from inspiring author, Norman Vincent Peale to help you Fear Less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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104. From Fear to Freedom: What Parents, Professionals, and People with OCD Need to Know
What if your child's anxiety isn't just a phase—but something more? In this episode, Zack sits down with OCD clinician Victoria Lane of the OCD Institute of Texas to explore how obsessive-compulsive disorder can quietly take hold in teens and young adults. Drawing from both her professional role and lived experience with OCD, Victoria helps parents recognize early warning signs that are often missed and understand when anxiety may have crossed into something more serious. Together, they break down Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP)—the gold-standard treatment for OCD—and explain why it works, even when it feels counterintuitive. Parents will gain practical insight into how to support their child without reinforcing anxiety, what it means when a teen is "half in, half out" of treatment, and how real recovery is possible. This conversation offers both clarity and hope for families navigating OCD. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares lyrics from a song from Ziggy Alberts, an Australian acoustic artist who's really terrific. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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103. School Anxiety in Neurodivergent Kids: What Parents Need to Know About Autism, ADHD, and Academic Stress
Why does school feel overwhelming—or even impossible—for some children, especially those with autism, ADHD, or learning differences? In this episode, Zack sits down with Brandon Moffitt, executive director of Black Mountain Academy, to explore the rising challenge of school anxiety and how it uniquely impacts neurodivergent students. Together, they unpack how anxiety often coexists with autism and ADHD, and why it can be easily misunderstood or overlooked by parents and educators alike. From school avoidance to perfectionism and emotional shutdowns, this conversation helps parents better recognize what may really be driving their child's struggles. Brandon offers a hopeful and practical framework for supporting kids—emphasizing the importance of addressing both anxiety and underlying learning differences through a balanced, individualized approach. The episode highlights how integrated support between parents, educators, and clinicians can help children not only succeed academically, but also socially and emotionally. For parents feeling overwhelmed, this conversation provides reassurance, clarity, and actionable insights to better understand their child—and to help them move from fear and avoidance toward confidence and engagement in school. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a lyric from famous American singer and songwriter, Jack Johnson. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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102: Why Women Struggle with Anxiety: Perfectionism, Trauma, and the Pressure to Be Everything
Why do so many women feel anxious, overwhelmed, and like they're never doing enough? In this episode, Zack sits down with Madi Harper, co-founder of Emerge Treatment, a women only mental health treatment center, to explore the unique ways anxiety shows up in women's lives. From perfectionism and people-pleasing to emotional labor and societal expectations, Maddie shares how many women are conditioned to prioritize others while suppressing their own needs—often leading to chronic stress, nervous system dysregulation, and a loss of identity. Drawing from both her personal journey and clinical experience, Maddie explains how anxiety in women often hides beneath high achievement and caretaking roles rather than obvious distress. She highlights the importance of shifting from self-blame to self-understanding, helping women see their anxiety as an adaptive response rather than a personal flaw. This episode offers a compassionate and insightful look at how women can begin healing—by reconnecting with themselves, setting boundaries, and learning that their worth is not defined by performance, but by who they are. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from famous American writer and feminist activist Andrea Dworkin. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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101: The Missing Piece in Mental Health? Habits, Discipline, and Daily Routines
What if improving your anxiety wasn't just about therapy—but about how you live your everyday life? In this episode Zack sits down with Josh Gardner, COO and CFO of The Hope Group, to explore how foundational habits like sleep, nutrition, movement, and connection can dramatically impact mental health. Drawing from both his leadership in behavioral healthcare and his personal life as an endurance athlete, Josh shares how optimizing daily routines can become one of the most powerful tools in recovery. Together, they unpack why many people struggle to make progress when they overlook basic physiological needs—and how small, strategic changes can create meaningful shifts in well-being. From habit stacking and discipline to the role of discomfort in growth, this conversation offers a practical and refreshing perspective for anyone navigating anxiety, burnout, or emotional challenges. If you're looking for actionable ways to improve your mental health beyond traditional therapy, this episode provides a roadmap grounded in both science and real-world experience. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from social worker, author and researcher, Dr. Brene Brown. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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100 Episodes of Fear Less: Clips from Our Most Popular Episodes on Anxiety, OCD, and Recovery
In this special 100th episode of the Fear Less podcast, host Zack Schafer celebrates the milestone by revisiting some of the most downloaded and talked-about conversations from the show's history. Instead of a traditional interview, this episode features a compilation of clips from ten of the most popular episodes, chosen based on overall downloads, early listener engagement, and long-term impact. Each segment highlights powerful moments from past guests who shared personal stories of anxiety, OCD, exposure therapy, recovery, and the process of learning how to live a meaningful life despite fear. Throughout the episode, listeners hear key insights from individuals who have experienced anxiety firsthand, as well as clinicians who specialize in evidence-based treatment. The clips reflect the core themes of the podcast—facing fear instead of avoiding it, understanding how anxiety works, and learning practical strategies that help young people and families move toward growth and independence. Whether you are new to the podcast or a long-time listener, this compilation offers a strong introduction to the most impactful ideas shared on Fear Less and highlights why the show has become a trusted resource for people looking to better understand anxiety and how it can be treated. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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99. Living with Anxiety, Autism, and a Stutter: How Cam Rainey Learned to Face His Fears
What does it take for a young person living with anxiety, autism, and a severe speech stutter to step forward and share their story publicly? In this powerful episode, Zack speaks with Mountain Valley alumnus Cam Rainey, who courageously joins the show to talk about his journey through anxiety, depression, and substance use before entering treatment. Cam reflects on the struggles that once defined his life—including social fears, isolation, and feeling stuck—and how coming to Mountain Valley helped him begin confronting those challenges through exposure therapy and supportive community. Cam shares candid insights about the small but meaningful exposures that helped him rebuild confidence—from initiating conversations and advocating for himself to facing awkward social situations that once felt impossible. Now continuing his growth at The Bridge program in Costa Rica, Cam discusses how living abroad has expanded his perspective on life, relationships, and purpose. His story is an inspiring reminder that recovery from anxiety is not about eliminating fear, but learning to move toward it with courage, honesty, and even humor. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Don Miguel Ruiz who is the author of The Four Agreements and is a wise sage of wisdom Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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98. Afraid for Our Future? Coping with Climate Anxiety an Eco Grief in a Changing World
What happens when climate change starts affecting your mental health? In this week's episode Zack sits down with clinical psychologist and climate psychology pioneer Dr. Thomas Doherty to explore the growing experience of eco anxiety, climate grief, and the emotional toll of living in an era of environmental uncertainty, drawing from insights in his book "Surviving Climate Anxiety: A Guide to Coping, Healing, and Thriving." Dr. Doherty explains how anxiety about global warming, extreme weather events, and environmental loss is often a natural response to real-world threats—not a personal weakness. Together, they break down the difference between healthy concern and overwhelming anxiety, and why so many young people and families are struggling with climate-related stress. This conversation offers practical tools for coping with climate anxiety, including how to validate your fears, reduce catastrophic thinking, and build resilience through values-based action and community connection. Zack connects these strategies to broader anxiety treatment principles, showing how fear can be reframed as a signal rather than a sentence. If you or someone you love feels overwhelmed by climate change, environmental grief, or fears about the future of the planet, this episode provides clarity, hope, and actionable steps toward emotional balance in an uncertain world. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Dr. Doherty's book, Surviving Climate Anxiety: A Guide to Coping, Healing, and Thriving to help you Fear Less. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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97. You Are More Than Your Trauma: Finding Freedom from PTSD with Dr. Ken Huey
In this powerful episode of Fear Less, Zack sits down with Dr. Ken Huey to explore how childhood trauma wires fear into the brain — and how healing rewires it. Dr. Huey shares his personal story of abuse, complex trauma, and post-traumatic stress, and how he transformed those experiences into a life dedicated to helping others heal. With more than 35 years in residential treatment, Dr. Huey explains the connection between trauma, anxiety, and PTSD, unpacking how the limbic system encodes fear and how trauma triggers shape behavior. He outlines how relational and repetitive corrective experiences can help the brain relearn safety and restore growth. This conversation moves beyond diagnosis into transformation. Dr. Huey challenges the "victim identity" mindset with a clear and empowering message: trauma may not be your fault, but healing is your responsibility. Parents, clinicians, and individuals navigating high ACEs scores will gain insight into trauma recovery, resilience, and post-traumatic growth. If you're searching for guidance on healing from childhood trauma, overcoming PTSD, or understanding how anxiety and trauma intersect, this episode delivers both clarity and hope. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Helen Keller, that helps you to Fear Less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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96. When Anxiety Derails Your Life: How One Young Woman Found Herself Again
What does it really take for a young person to rebuild their life after anxiety derails high school and college plans? In this powerful episode Zack sits down with Mountain Valley Treatment Center resident Becca Gorelick, just 48 hours before her graduation from the program. Becca shares how a traumatic home invasion intensified her anxiety, school avoidance, and panic attacks—ultimately leading her to seek residential treatment at Mountain Valley. With honesty and insight, she reflects on her first stay, her return to college at the University of Utah, and how unresolved anxiety, identity struggles, and academic pressure led her back for a second round of support. For parents of teens and young adults struggling with anxiety, OCD, trauma, or college transitions, Becca's story offers real hope. She speaks candidly about exposure therapy (including a memorable and life-changing public "smoothie" exposure), EMDR work around trauma, learning to tolerate uncertainty, and rebuilding trust in herself. Most importantly, she shares how Mountain Valley's structure, community, and anxiety-specific treatment helped her move from simply surviving to rediscovering who she is. This episode is a moving reminder that recovery isn't linear—and sometimes asking for help again is the bravest step forward. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Mariann Williamson, about ways to grow as a person and learn to Fear Less. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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95. What Anxious Teens REALLY Need: Insights from Eight Years in Anxiety Treatment
What actually helps a young person overwhelmed by anxiety or OCD—and how do parents know when it's time for something more than weekly therapy? In this episode Zack sits down with Ashley Metz, a longtime clinician at Mountain Valley Treatment Center, to reflect on her years working closely with adolescents and families. Ashley shares what she has learned from walking alongside young people who felt misunderstood, stuck, or unable to access daily life—and how healing often begins when pressure is reduced and kids are given space to be themselves. This conversation offers parents a thoughtful look at why anxiety and OCD can become so consuming, especially in today's world of constant technology, academic pressure, and identity stress. Ashley explains how residential treatment can help by removing distractions, creating safety, and allowing kids to practice real-life skills in a supportive community. She also speaks about the importance of joy, play, and feeling truly seen—not just "fixed." For parents wondering how to support their child while holding onto hope, this episode offers clarity, reassurance, and a deeper understanding of the healing process. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Benjamin Franklin, about ways to Fear Less. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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94. Anxiety and the College Transition: A Young Adult's Story of Recovery, Confidence, and Growth
What happens when anxiety, self-doubt, and a major life transition collide?—and how do you find your way back? In this episode Zack sits down with Shane Holcomb, a former Mountain Valley resident and current University of Colorado Boulder student, to explore the real challenges of anxiety during the transition to college. Shane reflects on how social anxiety, loss of confidence, and impulsive behaviors—including sports gambling—began to take hold when he assumed his struggles would disappear just by going to college. Through candid storytelling, Shane shares how treatment helped him rebuild self-trust, confront fear through exposure work, and rediscover joy, confidence, and purpose. From learning to ride a bike at 19 to reclaiming his passion for sports without addiction attached, this conversation highlights recovery as a process—not a quick fix. It offers hope to young people who feel stuck and reassurance to parents navigating high-stakes decisions about support, treatment, and the path forward. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Susie Kassam,who is an American writer, poet and philosopher. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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93. Autism, Anxiety, and OCD: What Parents and Professionals Need to Know
What happens when autism, anxiety, and OCD look so similar that even caring parents and professionals can't tell what's driving the behavior? In this episode of the Fear Less podcast, host Zack talks with Dr. Alison LaFollette, Clinical Director at Mountain Valley Treatment Center, about why these conditions so often overlap—and how to start separating what's sensory, what's anxiety, and what's OCD. Dr. LaFollette explains the core autism criteria (social communication differences plus rigidity/routines, transitions, specific interests, and sensory sensitivities) and shares why anxiety is so common for neurodivergent kids navigating a world not built for them. They also dig into treatment: ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention) can work for autistic teens with anxiety/OCD, but it often needs smart adjustments. Dr. LaFollette highlights the importance of practicing exposures across many settings (so learning generalizes), building real-life skills alongside ERP, and checking understanding with open-ended reflection instead of "Does that make sense?" The takeaway for parents: the goal isn't "no accommodations" or "accommodate everything"—it's a balanced plan that reduces suffering, supports regulation, and helps your child build a meaningful, more independent life. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Emily Swiatek, "Girl Unmasked: How Uncovering My Autism Saved My Life." Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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92. Finding Balance: 5 Dichotomies of Parenting an Anxious Child
Parenting a teen with anxiety can feel confusing, contradictory, and emotionally exhausting. In this episode Zack breaks down what he calls the five key dichotomies of parenting an anxious child—the opposing truths parents must hold at the same time in order to truly help their teen grow. From being compassionate and firm, to offering support while allowing struggle, this episode speaks directly to parents who feel stuck between "doing too much" and "not doing enough." Drawing from years of clinical work with anxious adolescents, Zach offers practical guidance for navigating common parenting challenges such as school avoidance, emotional overwhelm, boundary setting, and fear-driven decision making. Parents will learn why progress isn't linear, how to reduce anxiety without reinforcing avoidance, and how to lead with confidence even when anxiety is loud. This episode is especially helpful for parents of teens struggling with anxiety, OCD, or emotional regulation—and for anyone looking to parent with clarity, balance, and long-term resilience in mind. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Victor Frankel, author of the book "Man's Search for Meaning". Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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91. New Year, Less Fear: The Psychology of Change and Building Habits
Change is hard—especially when fear and anxiety get in the way. In this solo episode of Fear Less, our host Zack Schafer breaks down why change feels so uncomfortable and how to approach it in a realistic, sustainable way. Drawing from the Stages of Change model and insights from Atomic Habits by James Clear, Zach explains how habits form, why relapse is part of growth, and how small, consistent actions lead to lasting change. Whether you're setting New Year intentions or feeling stuck between wanting change and fearing it, this episode offers practical guidance, reassurance, and a compassionate framework for moving forward—one step at a time. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from James Clear, author of Atomic Habits. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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90. Learning to Live with Anxiety: A Young Women's Journey to Acceptance
What does effective anxiety treatment actually look like for teens and young adults—and how do you know when it's time for a higher level of care? In this powerful and deeply thoughtful episode Zack speaks with River, a college student who has lived with anxiety and OCD since early childhood. River shares how her anxiety intensified through adolescence, leading to depression, self-harm, hospitalizations, and ultimately residential treatment. She walks listeners through her experience with OCD, somatic anxiety, fear of illness, and how untreated anxiety can quietly derail school, relationships, and self-confidence. This episode offers parents and young people a rare inside look at what anxiety treatment can involve—from inpatient care to residential OCD treatment, exposure and response prevention (ERP), trauma work, and the challenges of transitioning to college. River reflects on returning to treatment as a motivated young adult, learning skills to manage intrusive thoughts, people-pleasing, and uncertainty, and eventually rebuilding her confidence through independent living and college re-entry. Her story is both reassuring and practical, reminding families that anxiety recovery is not linear—but with the right support, healing is possible. If you're a parent wondering how to help a teen with anxiety, or a young person feeling stuck and overwhelmed, this conversation offers clarity, hope, and real-world insight into what effective anxiety treatment can look like. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from the inspirational Helen Keller to help you open up to Fear Less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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89. Why Teens Are Struggling Now More than Ever: Expert Guidance for Parents Navigating Today's Challenges
Why are so many teens struggling with anxiety right now—and what can parents actually do to help? In this episode, Zack speaks with psychologist Dr. Rachel Gingold, who brings nearly 30 years of experience treating adolescents and families. Together, they unpack how the COVID years disrupted social development, increased avoidance, and intensified anxiety for teens everywhere. Dr. Gingold explains why previously confident kids may now fear everyday tasks, how to recognize when anxiety is driving behavior, and why supportive challenge—not protection—is the key to rebuilding confidence. Parents will learn practical ways to help teens re-engage with life, strengthen identity, and move toward healthy independence. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Tracee Ellison Ross, actor and to help you open up to Fear Less! Dr. Gingold's private practice is- https://www.fhwsonline.com/rachel-gingold-phd Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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88. From "Man Up" to Opening Up: A Candid Conversation on Men, Anxiety, and Fatherhood
In this episode Zack talks with Dr. Will White about the hidden ways men experience fear, anxiety, and major life transitions. Will shares candid stories from fatherhood, leadership, loss, and aging, while Zack reflects on overworking, anger, and becoming a father again. Together they highlight how men often express anxiety through anger, shutting down, or work—rather than naming it for what it is. They also explore healthier alternatives: men's retreats, movement, meditation, community, and asking for help before things reach a breaking point. Will explains why nature, honest conversation, and structured support can help men "turn the compost heap" of stress, rather than let it build into isolation. The episode closes with a reminder for men—and those who love them—that you don't have to carry everything alone. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Terry Crews, actor and mental health advocate to help you open up to Fear Less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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87. Fear and Fatherhood Pt. 2: Reflections on Becoming A Dad for a Second Time
Is having another child an anxiety provoking experience? Our host Zack Shafer returns for a solo episode reflecting on the arrival of his second child, baby Meli and how becoming a parent again reshaped his understanding of fear and anxiety. He revisits the worries he had before his first child's birth—fears about not having life perfectly organized—and how becoming a dad taught him that anxiety doesn't disappear, but you learn you can handle uncertainty anyway. With more experience under his belt, Zack describes approaching this second birth with less panic and more presence, recognizing how exposure—doing something hard once—builds confidence the next time around. He also explores the unique fears that surfaced as he became a father to a daughter and how societal expectations shaped his protective instincts. The episode expands into a powerful conversation about men's mental health, the pressure many fathers feel to "hold everything together," and how rarely dads are asked how they're coping. Zack encourages parents—especially fathers—to talk openly about stress, seek support, and remember that you don't need to be perfect to be a good parent. You just need to show up, stay aware, and keep going. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Ama H. Vanniarachchy, author and anthropologist to help you Fear Less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center. Zack's episode about anxiety related to his first child was first released in July of 2024- 36. Fear, Fatherhood, and Transformation: Zack's Journey to Becoming a Dad
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86. Anxiety Journey: From Mountain Valley Client to Anxiety Clinician
What happens when a teen who once struggled with anxiety and OCD grows up to help others face those same fears? In this episode Zack welcomes former Mountain Valley client, now Child Mind Institute clinician John Wyetzner, as he shares his powerful journey from school avoidance and OCD to evidence-based recovery. This episode unpacks what Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) truly looks like, how Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) supports values-driven change, and the vital role of community in healing. For parents and clinicians, John offers practical insights into tackling intrusive thoughts, reassurance-seeking, and family accommodation. Discover actionable tips to help teens generalize their therapeutic gains back to home and school environments. This podcast provides clear resources, real hope, and essential next steps for effectively treating teen anxiety and OCD. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Jim Morrison, songwriter and musician to help you Fear Less! To find out more about John Weitzner and the Child Mind Institute check this website out- https://childmind.org/ Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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85. What If It's Not About Food? Understanding Fear and Eating Disorders
What if your child's struggle with food isn't really about food at all—but about fear? In this powerful episode of Fear Less, host Zack sits down with Libby Parker, a registered dietitian, certified eating disorder specialist, and author of Permission to Eat, to explore how fear, anxiety, and control often lie at the heart of eating disorders. Drawing on both her personal recovery and clinical expertise, Libby explains how restrictive or binge cycles develop, why they can be so difficult to break, and how compassionate, evidence-based approaches—like exposure therapy—can help young people find freedom and self-trust again. Parents will gain practical insight into recognizing early warning signs, understanding the role of fear in their child's behaviors, and responding with curiosity instead of panic. Together, Zack and Libby illuminate the deep connection between anxiety and disordered eating—and offer hope that recovery begins when families and clinicians work together to loosen fear's hold. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Jenni Schaefer, author of "Life without Ed" to help you Fear Less! To find out more about Libby Parker check out her Theraden weblink- https://www.therapyden.com/therapist/libby-parker-ms-rd-cdn-ceds-c-new-york-ny Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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84. From Avoidant to Values Driven: How ACT Helps Teens Embrace Anxiety
Licensed professional counselor Kelsey Irving joins Zack to demystify Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and how it helps teens with anxiety and OCD—especially when paired with Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP). Kelsey breaks ACT down into parent-friendly language: accept tough thoughts and feelings without wrestling them, then commit to actions that serve your child's values (family, school, friendships). She shares clear metaphors teens actually remember (leaves on a stream, "bring the monkey with you") and explains "defusion" and mindfulness as practical skills that make scary moments doable—like showing up for a game, riding in the car, or eating with friends. Parents will also hear why family involvement matters at every age, how to stop unintentionally accommodating compulsions, and what to do when a teen says, "I don't want to feel this way anymore." Kelsey draws on her OCD-specialist training (IOP/PHP), her virtual therapy & coaching work across state lines, and her children's ACT book, Jacob in the Cloud, to offer simple—but not always easy—steps that build psychological flexibility, reduce reassurance cycles, and move teens toward a bigger life. Zack Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Les Brown to help you Fear Less! To find out more about Kelsey Irving and the resources she talks about check out her website: https://steadfastpsychology.com/ Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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83. Productive Struggle Over Fragility: How to Raise Braver Teens with Lynn Lyons
Parents today are swimming in mental-health advice—some helpful, a lot confusing. In this episode Zack sits down with psychotherapist Lynn Lyons (author of Anxious Kids, Anxious Parents and host of the "Flusterclux" podcast) to cut through the noise. Lynn explains why anxiety thrives on over-talking, endless reassurance, and "safety chatter," and how well-meaning accommodations at home and school can accidentally make avoidance worse. She offers concrete, doable shifts for parents: talk 85% less, model approach instead of avoidance, build autonomy, and invite "productive struggle" so teens learn they can handle discomfort. You'll also hear practical guidance for school refusal (what to change tonight and how to partner with the school), why stress ≠ trauma, and how to replace fragility language with skills and confidence. If your teen is anxious—and you're anxious about what to do—this conversation gives you a clear playbook and renewed hope. Zack Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from LR Nost to help you Fear Less! To find out more about Lynn Lyonns and the resources she talks about check out her website: https://www.lynnlyons.com/ Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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82. From Anxious Athlete to Anxiety Expert: Katharine Call on Sports and Mental Health
In this episode Zack talks with Mountain Valley clinician Katharine Call, who opens up about her journey from professional skiing to living with—and ultimately overcoming—anxiety. Katharine shares how the pressures of competitive athletics, from ski academies to the U.S. national team, intensified her struggles with emetophobia and performance-related fears. She describes how her anxiety often went unnoticed or was misunderstood as physical illness, and the turning point that came when she finally received the right mental health support. Parents of anxious teens—especially those navigating sports—will find this conversation both relatable and hopeful. Katharine reflects on the hidden pressures of specializing too early, the importance of building an identity outside of athletics, and the role exposure therapy and balance played in her recovery. Her story offers valuable insights for families supporting a teen athlete wrestling with anxiety, perfectionism, and self-doubt, and reminds us that courage and strength are often found in the midst of fear. Zack Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from MMA fighter Ronda Rousey to help you Fear Less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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81. Anxious Teens & the Outdoors: How Adventure Therapy Builds Confidence
In this week's episode Zack talks with Nichol Ernst, LCSW, CEO/Clinical Director and co-owner of Summit Achievement, to unpack how the outdoors and adventure therapy help anxious teens. Nichol explains Summit's integrated treatment model—weekly rhythms of accredited academics, individualized therapy, and guided outdoor experiences—that turns nature into a practical lab for exposure, executive functioning, and confidence-building. They explore why time outside reduces avoidance, increases presence, and helps reframe fear—especially for school anxiety/school refusal, OCD/ERP carryover, and neurodivergent (ASD) teens who benefit from sensory input and structured challenge. The conversation highlights parent coaching and family-system change, perceived vs. actual risk in the outdoors, and how real-world wins on trail translate to the classroom and home. Nichol also addresses the history and evolution of "wilderness therapy," best practices, and why today's outdoor behavioral healthcare is data-informed, licensed, and collaborative. Hope and next steps for families round out the episode. Zack Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote about how time in the outdoors can address anxiety. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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80. How Mountain Valley Change My Life: Lessons from Exposure Therapy with Amelia Teta
On this episode Zack talks with Mountain Valley alumna—and current OT grad student—Amelia Teta about what truly helps when anxiety and OCD take over. Amelia traces her path from school avoidance to meaningful engagement, highlighting how Mountain Valley's evidence-based approach—especially Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP)—taught her to "be with" difficult emotions instead of resisting them. She unpacks the role of community, stewardship (chores and contribution), routines, and mental-health-informed occupational therapy in building confidence and everyday function. Candid, practical, and hopeful, this conversation offers families and caregivers a clear view of what effective anxiety/OCD treatment looks like—and how to keep the momentum going after discharge. Zack Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote about fear from Eleanor Roosevelt. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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79. Back to School Anxiety: 5 Tips for Parents to Help Teens Overcome School Avoidance
In this special back-to-school episode Zack sits down with Mountain Valley's Director of External Affairs and Enrollment, Everett Logan, to share practical strategies for parents whose teens are struggling with school avoidance and anxiety. Everett draws on his background as a teacher, school counselor, and leader at Mountain Valley to outline five key tips that can help families manage back-to-school stress: normalizing anxiety without enabling avoidance, managing your own parental anxiety, setting predictable routines, being proactive with plans, and looking beyond academics to support your teen's overall development. Together, Zack and Everett offer real-world advice to help parents foster resilience, hold healthy boundaries, and prevent school avoidance from derailing their child's year. If your teen is anxious about returning to school—or you're a parent looking for practical guidance—this episode is packed with insights to help your family approach the new school year with more calm, confidence, and connection. Zack's Anxiety Hack- Zack shares an inspiring quote from Dr. Harriet Lerner about fear and courage. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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78. School Anxiety in Teens: How Therademics Helps Students Build Resilience
In this episode Zack sits down with Patrick Cooke, Assistant Director of Studies at Knower Academics, to explore the powerful intersection of mental health and education. Patrick shares how the partnership between Knower Academics and Mountain Valley Treatment Center has created therademics—an approach where therapeutic goals are woven directly into academic work. Together, they discuss how anxiety and OCD often show up in the classroom, the impact of common accommodations like extra time, and how parents and educators can better support students without unintentionally reinforcing avoidance. Drawing from both his years as an educator and his experiences as a rock climbing coach, Patrick explains how lessons from adventure sports—facing fear, staying present, and building resilience—apply directly to helping teens and young adults navigate academic stress. This conversation offers parents practical insights into balancing academic progress with therapeutic growth, while giving their child the tools to manage anxiety long after school ends. Zack's Anxiety Hack- Zack shares an inspiring quote from life coach, Mastin Kipp. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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77. From Fear To Love: Stories from Mountain Valley Reunion 2025
In this special live edition of the Fear Less Podcast, recorded at the 2025 Mountain Valley Reunion, Zack brings together alumni, parents, current residents, and staff to share powerful stories of hope, resilience, and transformation. Against the backdrop of a sunny summer day in Plainfield, NH, voices from across the Mountain Valley family reflect on their personal journeys—overcoming debilitating anxiety, OCD, depression, and other mental health struggles—and the pivotal role this community played in their recovery. From heartfelt testimonies of residents who once felt hopeless to the gratitude of parents who witnessed their children's growth, the episode captures the unique culture of Mountain Valley: a place where courage is celebrated, vulnerability is honored, and connection fuels change. Through laughter, tears, and words of encouragement, each speaker reminds us that while fear may feel insurmountable, the right support can transform it into strength—and love. Zack Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote about love to help you Fear Less. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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76. "What do I do with my life?" Coaching Young Adults Through Career Anxiety
In this episode Zack sits down with career clarity expert Lisa Marker-Robbins to explore how parents can support their young adults in navigating the often overwhelming path toward school, career, and independence. Drawing on decades of experience and her role as a mom of five, Lisa breaks down the fears, anxieties, and misconceptions that keep both parents and their children stuck. She explains how her three-step framework—focusing on self-awareness, career exploration, and intentional next steps—can bring clarity and confidence to the post-high school journey. Lisa and Zack dive into the emotional dynamics between parents and teens, discussing how fear and over-accommodation can unintentionally stall growth. They also explore how career coaching can act as a form of exposure therapy, helping young people build real-world experience, assess their fit with different careers, and find purpose. Whether your child is lost after college, stuck in indecision, or avoiding future planning altogether, this conversation offers hope, strategy, and practical tools for taking the first step toward meaningful adulthood. Zack's Anxiety Hack- Zack shares an inspiring quote from Eleanor Roosevelt that will help you Fear Less as you try more. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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75. The Trade: Helping Young Adults Launch Through Real Work, Mentorship, and Community
In this powerful episode, Zack welcomes back two inspiring leaders—Tim Vaughan, Executive Director of The Trade, and Will Laughlin, CEO of The Trade and Mountain Valley Treatment Center. Together, they introduce The Trade, a new work-life preparatory program for young adults (ages 18–30) who feel stuck, disconnected, or unsure about their next steps. Drawing from decades of experience in education, mental health, and mentoring, Tim and Will explain how The Trade provides meaningful work, mentorship, and a supportive community—all on a 2,000-acre mountain campus in New Hampshire. This episode explores how hands-on learning, and genuine human connection can help young people move forward with purpose and confidence. The conversation dives deep into the challenges facing today's young adults—including anxiety, isolation, and lack of direction—and offers a hopeful, practical alternative to traditional therapy or college paths. Rooted in the principles of occupational therapy and self-determination theory, The Trade offers a modern rite of passage where young adults earn real wages, gain skills, and build relationships that help them launch into adulthood. Whether you're a parent, a clinician, or a young adult searching for direction, this episode offers insight, compassion, and a vision for what's possible when we stop pathologizing struggle—and start building community around purpose. Zack's Anxiety Hack- Zack shares an inspiring quote from Mary O'Reily a famous Occupational Therapist! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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74. Why Your Teen Is So Sensitive: Understanding Sensory Processing and Anxiety
In this solo episode our host and Executive Director of Mountain Valley Treatment Center, Zack Shafer MSOTR/L unpacks one of the most overlooked components of teen mental health: sensory processing. Speaking directly to parents of adolescents who are anxious, overwhelmed, or emotionally reactive, Zack explains how teens with anxiety, OCD, ADHD, or Autism Spectrum Disorder often experience the world through a different sensory lens—and how those differences can dramatically affect their ability to cope, self-regulate, and function in daily life. With warmth and clarity, Zack breaks down terms like sensory processing vs. sensory integration, and lesser-known but critical senses like proprioception (body awareness), vestibular input (balance and movement), and interoception (internal body signals). He shares research linking sensory challenges with mental health conditions and helps parents understand why their teen might shut down in crowded spaces, seem "overreactive" to touch or sound, or crave constant physical input. More importantly, Zack offers practical tools and language to help parents support their teen's sensory needs—whether through environmental modifications, movement-based activities, or simply a shift in perspective. If your teen's anxiety or OCD seems tied to "little things" that quickly escalate, this episode offers a new framework for understanding—and a hopeful path forward rooted in science, compassion, and occupational therapy insight. Zack Hack: In this week's episode Zack shares an insightful quote from Peter Levine, a famous trauma therapist to help you fear less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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73. Autism and Anxiety: Helping Neurodivergent Teens Thrive through a Developmental Approach
In this insightful episode, Zack sits down with Cam Sherman, executive director at NeuroDev, to explore the intersection of neurodiversity and anxiety in young people. Cam unpacks how traditional academic and clinical approaches often miss a key component: developmental growth. Drawing from his work at NeuroDev—a mentoring-based program for neurodivergent young adults—Cam explains why young people with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) frequently experience anxiety and stress, particularly around identity formation, social connection, and transitions to independence. Parents will gain valuable insights into how developmental mentoring, lived experience, and community support can offer more than symptom management—they can foster security, resilience, and lasting self-confidence. Together, Cam and Zack also break down the critical distinction between safety and security, a concept that resonates deeply for parents seeking long-term support strategies for their child. Cam explains that while safety seeks to eliminate risk, security builds the capacity to navigate it. Through powerful metaphors and practical examples, this conversation gives caregivers and clinicians a new lens to understand their neurodivergent child's emotional world. Cam's message is clear: resilience and growth don't come from avoiding discomfort, but from learning—over time, with support—how to face challenges with confidence and connection. Zacks Anxiety Hack: Zack shares a powerful quote from Louisa May Alcott. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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72. From Perfectionism to Self-Compassion: Izzy's Journey Through Teen Anxiety and Recovery"
In this heartfelt episode Zack sits down with former Mountain Valley resident Izzy Carosi, who courageously shares her journey through anxiety, depression, and the perfectionism that once consumed her. From the outside, Izzy appeared to have it all—strong academics, athletic talent, and a vibrant personality—but beneath the surface, she struggled with crippling anxiety and perfectionism. Her path led her to Mountain Valley Treatment Center, where she experienced both a painful early departure and a powerful return. In her honest retelling, Izzy opens up about learning to accept help, understanding attachment and perfectionism, and rediscovering her authentic self—"Little Izzy"—through vulnerability and self-compassion. Soon to be a psychology student at Wake Forest University, Izzy reflects on how her experience in residential treatment taught her to build balance, develop emotional resilience, and embrace her worth beyond achievements. She offers valuable insights for both young people navigating mental health challenges and parents supporting them, including how to re-enter home and school life after treatment, and how to stay grounded in a world that often rewards overachievement. Whether you're a parent of a teen wrestling with anxiety or a young person struggling to find your way, Izzy's story is a beacon of honesty, hope, and healing. Zacks Anxiety Hack: Zack shares a heartfelt quote from Amy Julia Becker. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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71. Why Every Teen with Anxiety Should Learn DBT: Insights from Brittany Little LCSW
In this episode Zack is joined by Brittany Little, LCSW, clinical director at Moosilauke Counseling Solutions and former therapist at Mountain Valley Treatment Center. Brittany shares her deep expertise in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) and how it can be a transformative tool for teens struggling with anxiety, OCD, and emotional dysregulation. While often associated with borderline personality disorder, Brittany explains how DBT's practical, skills-based approach is incredibly useful for adolescents with intense emotions—even before they're ready for exposure therapy. Topics covered include mindfulness, emotion regulation, distress tolerance, and interpersonal effectiveness, as well as how DBT lays a crucial foundation for long-term healing. Brittany also explores how DBT offers powerful tools for both parents and clinicians, not just clients. From validating a teen's emotional experiences without reinforcing compulsive behaviors, to learning how to effectively communicate through emotional intensity, this episode provides a framework of hope and clarity for families navigating complex mental health challenges. Whether you're a parent of a teen in crisis or a clinician looking for fresh ways to support anxious adolescents, this conversation highlights why DBT is more than just a therapy—it's a life skill set for the whole family. Zack's Anxiety Hack- In this episode Zack shares an inspiring quote from Steven King. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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70. "I Hate the Way I Look": Addressing Anxiety and Body Image Issues
In this compelling episode Zack is joined once again by clinical psychologist Dr. Roberto Olivardia to explore body dysmorphic disorder (BDD)—a deeply misunderstood and often overlooked condition, especially in adolescent boys and young men. Dr. Olivardia, co-author of The Adonis Complex, shares his decades of clinical and research experience in working with individuals who struggle with distorted body image, anxiety, and co-occurring disorders like OCD and depression. He breaks down how BDD presents, the dangerous cultural messages that fuel it, and why it often goes undiagnosed in young men. For parents of teens grappling with anxiety, appearance preoccupations, or seeking cosmetic procedures as a solution, this episode offers both a clinical roadmap and emotional insight. Dr. Olivardia discusses the risks of cosmetic surgeries, treatment options including ERP and SSRIs, and the importance of challenging rigid appearance-based beliefs. He emphasizes that recovery is possible—with the right support, education, and structured treatment. If you're a parent looking for hope and direction for your teen dealing with body image anxiety, this episode is a must-listen. Zack's Hack- In this episode Zack shares an inspiring quote from Henry Ford. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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69. Treating OCD and Eating Disorders: What Clinicians, Clients, and Families, Need to Know
In this episode of Fear Less, Zack talks with licensed therapist Elian Beattie, the owner of Insights Group, an outpatient therapy practice in Rye, New Hampshire. Elian specializes in treating OCD, anxiety, and eating disorders, and shares her rare expertise in addressing both OCD and disordered eating at the same time—something many treatment providers avoid. Listeners will gain a clear understanding of how these two conditions often overlap, from perfectionism and control to compulsive behaviors around food and body image. Elian breaks down how both disorders can be identified, assessed, and treated with evidence-based approaches like Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). Whether you're a parent concerned about your teen's mental health, someone who struggles with rigid food rules and anxiety, or a clinician who sees these overlapping conditions, this episode offers real hope and practical guidance. Elian also shares a powerful story of helping a young athlete recover through social reconnection, challenging food fears, and building values-based resilience. If you're looking for answers about OCD, eating disorders, or how to find the right kind of help, this conversation will leave you informed, inspired, and ready to take action. Zack's Anxiety Hack: Zack shares a quote from Salvador Dali that can help you fear less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center. Elian Beattie's outpatient practice website: https://insightsgroup.net/
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68. Is an Eating Disorder Actually OCD? Dee Franklin on Redefining Treatment
In this episode Zack welcomes Dee Franklin, a licensed mental health counselor, to explore the striking overlap between eating disorders (ED) and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). Drawing from her decades of clinical experience and a widely-discussed article she co-authored, Dr. Franklin shares how many eating disorder behaviors—like ritualized eating patterns, perfectionism, and sensory avoidance—mirror the core functional mechanisms of OCD. Together, she and Zach dive into the controversial but increasingly accepted view that ED and OCD may not be as separate as traditionally thought, and how treatment models that embrace this overlap can lead to more effective, sustainable outcomes. The conversation weaves personal insights, clinical strategies, and a deep respect for interdisciplinary work—especially between occupational therapy and psychology. Dee also introduces listeners to ARFID (Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder), highlighting the role of interoceptive exposure and graduated sensory challenges in treatment. With warmth and intellectual rigor, this episode challenges listeners—whether clinicians, parents, or those in recovery—to reconsider how we define and treat disordered eating through a functional, process-based lens. It's a compelling call to rethink the categories and embrace treatments that meet patients where they are, both physically and emotionally. Zack's Anxiety Hack: Zack shares a quote from Marcus Aurelius that can help you fear less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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67. Leaning Into Fear and Loss: Myra Sack on Losing a Child and Finding Her Way
In this deeply moving episode Zack sits down with Myra Sack, author of 57 Fridays: Losing Our Daughter, Finding Our Way and Executive Director of Emotion, Inc.—a nonprofit that helps people navigate grief through movement, ritual, and community. Myra shares her profound journey of losing her daughter Javi to Tay-Sachs disease, how that loss reshaped her understanding of fear and anxiety, and how the emotional tools she and her husband developed became the foundation for her organization's healing model. Together, they explore how grief intersects with fear and anxiety, especially the difference between anxiety's imagined threats and fear's real ones—and how we can learn to "move with" both and harness the treasures that exist in intense emotional experiences. Throughout the conversation, Myra highlights the power of emotional granularity, intentional ritual, somatic motion, and authentic community as antidotes to the isolation and overwhelm that often accompany grief and trauma. She and Zack discuss how Emotion, Inc. is bringing these tools to others through its national grief-movement cohorts, offering not just support but transformation. Myra's vulnerability and insight are a gift to anyone coping with loss or seeking to support others through it, and her message—that we can live in the land of the living and carry our grief—is one of resilience, love, and deep hope. Zack's Hack: Zack shares a powerful quote about grief. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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66. Anxiety, OCD, and Addiction: Andy Benckart's Journey to Recovery
In this powerful episode of Fear Less, Zack sits down with Andy Benckart, a master's-level social work student and young adult in recovery, to dive deep into the complex intersections of anxiety, OCD, and addiction. Andy shares his lived experience navigating chronic migraines, anxiety, substance use, and an eventual OCD diagnosis, shedding light on how these challenges are often intertwined. His story takes listeners from early struggles in high school and college to the transformative impact of wilderness therapy and transitional living programs. Andy also discusses the vital role that surfing and nature have played in his recovery journey, offering a unique perspective on surrender, control, and healing through connection to the outdoors. Throughout the conversation, Andy highlights how 12-step programs, therapeutic support, and outdoor experiences helped him build resilience, self-awareness, and hope for a better future. Zack and Andy explore critical ideas like the subtle ways OCD can present, why addiction often masks deeper mental health struggles, and how the lessons of nature — like surrendering to a powerful wave — mirror the process of recovery. Whether you're navigating your own mental health challenges or supporting a loved one, this episode offers invaluable wisdom, hope, and a reminder that growth often starts by letting go. Zack's Hack- In this week's quote to address fear Zack shares a quote from Victor Frankel. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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65. Befriending Fear: Why We Have Anxiety and How to Use It
In this powerful solo Zack dives deep into the functional purpose of anxiety and how it can actually serve us rather than sabotage us. Drawing on his clinical experience and personal reflections, Zack reframes anxiety as a messenger, something that, when listened to and understood, can be a powerful motivator and guide. Using real-life examples from his own life and his work at Mountain Valley Treatment Center, Zack explores the physiological, cognitive, and behavioral responses triggered by anxiety and how we can tune into those responses to prepare, adapt, and thrive rather than shut down or avoid. He breaks down the common "fight, flight, freeze, and fawn" reactions and emphasizes that fear isn't something to eliminate—but rather, something to make less intrusive and more constructive. Zack also shares personal stories, including how anxiety helped him prepare for fatherhood and process fear during a high-risk pregnancy. He emphasizes that our emotions aren't enemies—they're signals that deserve attention, curiosity, and response. Referencing tools from Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and the book The Happiness Trap by Russ Harris, Zack encourages listeners to transform their relationship with fear, rather than trying to eliminate it. This episode is a must-listen for anyone who's felt consumed by anxiety and is ready to learn how to partner with it instead. Zack Hack: In this week's hack Zack shares an inspiring quote from Russ Harris, author of The Happiness Trap. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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64. Living with ADHD: Dr. Roberto Olivardia on Managing Anxiety, OCD & Executive Functioning
In this compelling episode Zack sits down with renowned clinical psychologist Dr. Roberto Olivardia to explore the realities of living with ADHD and how it intersects with anxiety, OCD, and executive functioning. A lecturer at Harvard Medical School and clinical associate at McLean Hospital, Dr. Olivardia brings both professional expertise and personal insight as someone who has lived with ADHD his entire life. The conversation dives deep into what ADHD actually is, how it's often misunderstood, and why people with ADHD often experience high levels of stress and anxiety due to environmental expectations and internal challenges. Listeners will gain practical takeaways around managing ADHD symptoms, whether through medication, behavioral strategies, mindfulness practices, or lifestyle changes. Dr. Olivardia shares relatable personal stories—from riding the subway to focus on reading to writing his dissertation to punk rock—and breaks down the importance of accepting neurodiversity in a judgment-free, strength-based way. If you've ever felt like your brain works differently, this validating and informative episode is not to be missed. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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63. Fear of Letting Go: The Intersection of OCD and Hoarding Disorder with Christin Brown LICSW
In this episode Zack welcomes Christin Brown, a licensed independent clinical social worker and OCD specialist based in Massachusetts. Christin has a subspecialty in Hoarding Disorder, and in this conversation, her and Zack delve into this often-misunderstood diagnosis and its relationship to OCD. Christin shares her professional insights as well as her personal experiences with anxiety and obsessive-compulsive tendencies, offering a nuanced understanding of hoarding behaviors—ranging from emotional attachment to objects to digital hoarding like excessive photo saving or unopened tabs. This episode is a must-listen for mental health professionals, families, and individuals navigating hoarding-related struggles. The conversation explores key differentiators between hoarding disorder and OCD, including the importance of values-based treatment and the use of Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) therapy. Christin emphasizes the importance of tailored exposures—such as discarding unused items, avoiding acquiring new ones, and challenging the emotional significance tied to objects. She also discusses practical tips for family members supporting a loved one with hoarding disorder and offers real-life case examples, including therapeutic rituals like shredding sentimental items. This episode sheds light on how understanding, compassion, and evidence-based therapy can make a significant difference for individuals struggling to let go—both physically and emotionally. Zack's Hack- In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares a quote from Buddhist monk, Thich Nhat Hanh. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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62. OCD & Addiction: Hidden Connections and Concurrent Paths to Healing with Jayme Valdez LMHC
In this episode Zack welcomes Jayme Valdez, a licensed mental health counselor and founder of Clearview OCD Counseling. Jayme specializes in treating OCD, anxiety, trauma, and addiction, and she shares her unique approach to addressing the overlap between OCD and addictive disorders. She challenges the traditional belief that OCD and addiction must be treated separately, advocating for a concurrent treatment model that acknowledges their shared compulsive patterns. Drawing from both her clinical expertise and personal experience, Jayme highlights the importance of evidence-based interventions, harm reduction, and fostering connection as means to support long-term recovery. Throughout the episode, Jayme provides invaluable insights for clinicians, individuals struggling with co-occurring disorders, and their loved ones. She explains how OCD and addiction operate in similar cycles of intrusive thoughts and urges, followed by compulsive, ritualized, behaviors, painting a clear picture for how addressing these two challenges together is not only doable, but highly effective. Listeners will gain practical strategies for navigating recovery, breaking unhealthy cycles, and supporting loved ones without enabling harmful behaviors. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in mental health, addiction recovery, and breaking free from patterns that keep individuals stuck. Zack's Anxiety Hack: Zack shares a quote from Nelson Mandela to help you Fear Less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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61. Mountain Valley's History, Culture, and Alumni Support Network with Carl Lovejoy
In this episode Zack welcomes Carl Lovejoy, one of the co-founders of Mountain Valley Treatment Center, to reflect on the center's origins and evolution. Carl shares his journey from working in independent schools to helping establish Mountain Valley in 2011, recognizing the need for specialized support for high-achieving students struggling with anxiety and related disorders. He recounts the center's humble beginnings in Pike, New Hampshire, with just four families and how it grew into a nationally recognized residential treatment program. Carl and Zack discuss the transition to the Plainfield campus, which offered greater accessibility and a more structured, home-like environment that fosters healing. They also highlight the role of traditions, the power of community, and the importance of making treatment feel welcoming rather than clinical. The conversation shifts to the evolution and future of Mountain Valley, as Carl and Zack discuss the changing mental health needs of youth, including the rise of OCD and ASD diagnoses, and how Mountain Valley continues to adapt its approach to meet those challenges. The podcast concludes with Carl and Zack reflecting on the deep relationships formed at Mountain Valley, the ongoing commitment to keeping the culture strong, and the recent revival of the Mountain Valley Alumni Association, designed to help youth and families maintain a sense of community long after graduation. Zack's Anxiety Hack: Zack shares a quote from Joseph Campbell to help you Fear Less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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60. From Struggle to Strength: Parenting an Anxious Child
In this episode Zack sits down with Nicole Carosi, the mother of a former Mountain Valley Treatment Center resident, Isabella. Nicole shares an intimate look into her family's journey with Isabella's anxiety, perfectionism, and depression, detailing the struggles that led them to seek intensive treatment. She reflects on the challenges of parenting an anxious child, the decision to enroll Isabella at Mountain Valley, and the nonlinear path toward healing. Throughout their discussion, Zack, who was Isabella's therapist during her time at Mountain Valley, offers unique insight into her therapeutic journey, including the pivotal moments that led to breakthroughs for both Isabella and her family. Nicole candidly discusses the emotional toll of seeking treatment, the difficult transition of dropping Isabella off, and the heartbreaking moment of realizing that initial treatment wasn't working. She also shares how Isabella's return to Mountain Valley, after a brief departure, allowed her to truly engage with the program and make lasting progress. Through therapy, family coaching, and deep self-reflection, Nicole and Isabella learned valuable lessons about managing anxiety, setting boundaries, and fostering resilience. Now thriving in her senior year of high school, Isabella's story is a testament to the power of perseverance and finding the right support. Zack's Hack: In this week's anxiety hack Zack shares some words of wisdom from singer/songwriter Taylor Swift. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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59. OT's Role in Mental Health with Mountain Valley's Executive Director Zack Schafer
In this insightful solo episode, Zack dives into the vital role of occupational therapy (OT) in mental health treatment, particularly at Mountain Valley Treatment Center. Zack shares his personal journey into the OT field, the therapeutic power of meaningful activity, and how Mountain Valley integrates OT principles into their residential program for adolescents and young adults struggling with anxiety and OCD. Through personal stories and professional insights, Zack highlights how occupational therapy fosters healing through engagement, functionality, and community connection. Listeners will gain a rich understanding of the history of OT and its practical applications within the field of mental health care. Zack reviews the "5 C's", a concept that originated from the work of Dr. Rachel Thibeault, an occupational therapist who studied psychological resilience and well-being in underprivileged and marginalized communities. Zack discusses how the "5 C's" —Centering, Contemplation, Connection, Contribution, and Creativity— are core principles that guide the healing process and shape the therapeutic milieu at Mountain Valley. Zack also discusses how OTs at Mountain Valley collaborate with clinicians to support life skills, social participation, and exposure therapy, for adolescents and young adults with anxiety, OCD, and related disorders. This episode demonstrates the profound impact of OT in mental health care and is a must-listen for professionals, parents, and anyone interested in holistic approaches to mental well-being. Zack's Hack: In this week's hack Zack shares a quote about how action is a key antidote to helping you fear less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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58. Occupational Therapy & Mental Health: Camille's Journey to Helping Teens Overcome Anxiety
In this episode Zack talks with Camille Wrege, an occupational therapist at Mountain Valley Treatment Center, about her journey into occupational therapy (OT) and how she applies it to mental health treatment for teenagers with anxiety and OCD. Camille shares her personal background, including how early experiences with her grandfather and a passion for holistic care led her to pursue occupational therapy. She highlights the role of OT in supporting young people by improving functional skills like hygiene, social participation, executive functioning, and independent living. Camille also discusses the intersection of OT and exposure therapy, emphasizing the importance of grading exposures appropriately to build confidence and resilience. Throughout the episode, Camille reinforces her core belief in the power of connection, both as a personal value and a fundamental aspect of her therapeutic approach. She explains how OT facilitates social engagement, helping clients build relationships, navigate daily challenges, and integrate exposure-based interventions into real-life activities. The conversation also delves into her experiences working with clients, such as guiding a young adult through meal planning, grocery shopping, and cooking to overcome OCD-related fears. The episode concludes with Camille's advice for those struggling with mental health: prioritize self-care through sleep, nutrition, movement, and human connection. Zack Hack: This week's Zack shares a reflective quote to help you fear less! Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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57. Breaking the Cycle of Fear: A Mother and Son's Story of Healing
In this episode Zack sits down with Hayden Fleischer and his mother, Amy, to discuss Hayden's transformative journey through Mountain Valley Treatment Center. Hayden, who once struggled with debilitating anxiety that kept him out of school for months at a time, shares his experience of overcoming fear, rebuilding his confidence, and ultimately returning to Mountain Valley as a residential counselor. Amy, a psychotherapist, reflects on the challenges of recognizing Hayden's anxiety, the difficult decision to send him to treatment, and the powerful impact of family therapy. Together, they explore the emotional highs and lows of treatment, the importance of structured exposure therapy, and the resilience it takes to reclaim joy and independence. Now a mentor for others facing similar struggles, Hayden opens up about how the program gave him back his sense of self and purpose. He candidly shares how addressing his anxiety not only improved his mental health but also had measurable physical effects, reducing chronic inflammation and illness. His story underscores the crucial role of experiential therapy, community support, and exposure-based interventions in fostering lasting change. Amy and Hayden also discuss the long-term impact of treatment, including Hayden's transition to boarding school, his success in college, and his aspiration to become a therapist. This inspiring conversation offers hope to families navigating the complexities of anxiety, emphasizing that while the journey is tough, healing is possible with the right support and interventions. Zack's Anxiety Hack- Zack shares and reflects on a quote from Mark Twain. Fear Less is sponsored by Mountain Valley Treatment Center.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to the Fear Less podcast, a show dedicated to discussing anxiety, fear, and general mental well-being. In this podcast, host Zack Schafer sits down with clinical professionals, educators, parents, and individuals with anxiety to have meaningful conversations about fear and how to manage it. Through expert knowledge, personal stories, and practical everyday tips, Zack helps listeners gain the insight, confidence, and skills necessary to master their fears.Zack Schafer, MS, OTR/L, is a mental health occupational therapist and the executive director of Mountain Valley Treatment Center (MVTC), a non-profit residential treatment program for youth with debilitating anxiety. This podcast is sponsored by MVTC and aligns with the program's mission to help anxious young people to fear less and live fully.However, fear and anxiety don't just impact young people—they affect everyone. Our collective fears and anxieties shape the health of our communities and society as a whole. The Fear L
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