Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy Podcast

What if the next major battery breakthrough does not require a new chemistry, a new factory, or an entirely new manufacturing ecosystem?In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth sits down with David Mackanic, Co-Founder and CEO of Anthro Energy, to explore why the electrolyte may be one of the most overlooked levers in battery performance. Anthro Energy is developing Proteus, a phase-change electrolyte designed to enter a battery cell as a liquid and then solidify during formation. The goal is to improve safety, mechanical stability, swelling behavior, and compatibility with higher-energy chemistries while using existing lithium-ion manufacturing equipment. David explains why this approach could matter for everything from silicon-rich batteries and consumer electronics to EVs, robotics, defense, autonomous systems, and physical AI.The conversation also gets into one of the biggest challenges in battery innovation: making something work not just in a laboratory, but consistently, economically, and at industrial scale.Wes and David discuss:Why the electrolyte has historically received less attention than the anode and cathodeHow Proteus transitions from liquid to solid inside the battery cellWhy "drop-in" manufacturing does not mean zero process changesHow mechanical stabilization can help address silicon expansion, cracking, swelling, and degradationWhy better batteries require progress across energy density, safety, cycle life, and manufacturability at the same timeHow Anthro thinks about reducing both the frequency and severity of battery safety eventsWhy a more expensive electrolyte can still create greater value at the full cell and application levelWhy robotics, autonomous systems, defense, and physical AI create a different battery problem than conventional EVsHow structural batteries could eventually change the architecture of products themselvesHow Anthro Atlas uses AI to explore enormous electrolyte design spaces and accelerate materials developmentWhere AI predictions still have to prove themselves against real-world chemistry and manufacturingWhat changes when a materials science company moves from discovery into productionWhy Anthro is scaling advanced electrolyte manufacturing in the United StatesWhy the future of batteries is unlikely to be defined by one winning chemistryDavid’s background spans mechanical engineering, chemistry, polymer science, and advanced battery research, including a Ph.D. in chemical engineering from Stanford focused on polymer systems for safer, longer-lasting, higher-energy lithium-ion batteries. This episode is a deep look at the intersection of battery technology, advanced materials, AI-driven discovery, U.S. manufacturing, energy storage, robotics, and the future of electrification.Links:David Mackanic on LinkedInAnthro Energy's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Most of the buildings we will depend on for the next several decades are already standing. That makes the next phase of building decarbonization less about showcase new construction and more about upgrading the systems hidden behind walls, beneath floors, and underground.In this episode, Wes Ashworth sits down with Mike Richter, President of Brightcore Energy, to explore geothermal heating and cooling as a practical building-performance strategy. Mike brings a rare perspective to the conversation. After a 15-year NHL career that included a Stanley Cup championship and Olympic medal, he built a second career focused on climate, energy efficiency, and the built environment.Mike explains the critical difference between geothermal power generation and the ground-source systems used to heat and cool buildings. He breaks down the physics in accessible terms, then shows how smaller drilling rigs, directional drilling, hybrid systems, advanced controls, and real-time data are expanding what is possible in dense cities and occupied buildings.The conversation also examines why retrofits are the true test of decarbonization. Existing buildings come with aging infrastructure, limited space, complex load profiles, and owners who often wait until equipment fails before considering alternatives. Mike outlines why early evaluation matters and why every geothermal project must be designed around the building, geology, distribution system, operating needs, and financial horizon.In this episode, you will learn:Why geothermal HVAC is different from deep geothermal powerHow the ground can function as a stable heat source, heat sink, and thermal batteryWhy urban and occupied-building retrofits are becoming more feasibleHow Brightcore integrates engineering, drilling, controls, implementation, and performance monitoringWhat The Beresford project demonstrates about geothermal in a historic New York City buildingWhy one-directional cooling loads, including data centers and ice rinks, create new design challengesHow Local Law 97 is changing capital planning for New York City building ownersWhy education, perceived risk, financing, and timing remain major barriers to adoptionHow better building systems can reduce operating costs while improving comfort, air quality, and performanceMike offers a grounded view of the market. Geothermal can deliver major efficiency and emissions benefits, but it is not a universal, one-size-fits-all solution. The opportunity depends on sound engineering, realistic economics, thoughtful integration, and a willingness to evaluate options before an emergency replacement locks a building into another generation of legacy equipment.This episode is essential listening for professionals in commercial real estate, facilities, engineering, higher education, government, finance, climate policy, and renewable energy who want to understand how geothermal retrofits can move from niche technology to mainstream building infrastructure.Topics: geothermal heating and cooling, ground-source heat pumps, commercial building retrofits, building decarbonization, energy efficiency, urban geothermal, Local Law 97, thermal energy storage, HVAC electrification, Brightcore EnergyLinks: Mike Richter on LinkedInBrightcore Energy's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Nuclear energy is having another moment. But enthusiasm alone will not create a nuclear renaissance.The bigger question is whether the industry can finally learn to deliver complex projects predictably, repeatedly, on time, and at a cost investors and utilities can accept.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search, sits down with Tony Roulstone, Lecturer in Nuclear Engineering at the University of Cambridge and former Group Managing Director of Rolls-Royce Nuclear Engineering.Tony brings decades of experience spanning nuclear energy, aerospace, complex engineering programs, business transformation, and nuclear education. That perspective leads to a fascinating argument: the biggest breakthroughs nuclear needs may have less to do with reactor physics and more to do with how reactors are manufactured, financed, constructed, and repeated.The conversation begins with a Rolls-Royce aerospace failure that left Boeing 747s waiting for engines. The technology problem ultimately exposed a deeper organizational problem. Tony explains why that lesson still matters for nuclear projects today.From there, Wes and Tony examine one of nuclear energy's fundamental challenges. Building a large reactor can resemble manufacturing an aircraft in a field. Thousands of people, intricate supply chains, enormous documentation requirements, specialized inspections, and long construction timelines make repetition and productivity incredibly difficult.That is where small modular reactors, or SMRs, could change the equation.Tony explains why smaller does not automatically mean cheaper and why the real economic opportunity behind SMRs depends on three principles:Standardization: Stop redesigning the product for every customer and site.Modularization: Move significantly more construction into controlled factory environments.Production learning: Build repeatedly enough for teams, suppliers, and processes to improve from one unit to the next.The discussion also explores advanced nuclear reactors, including high-temperature gas reactors, liquid-metal systems, and molten salt concepts, along with what new reactor technologies could mean for safety and industrial applications.Tony and Wes also confront nuclear's most persistent public challenge: trust. They examine lessons from Chernobyl, the importance of organizational safety culture, and why modern nuclear safety cannot be understood solely through the industry's historical accidents.Finally, they tackle the false choice between nuclear energy and renewable energy. Deep decarbonization will require an entire energy system, including electricity, industrial heat, transportation, storage, renewables, and firm low-carbon generation. The real question is not which technology wins. It is how these resources work together.In this episode:Why technically brilliant projects can still failWhat aerospace can teach nuclear about systems engineeringWhy large nuclear construction struggles with productivityThe real economics behind small modular reactorsWhy SMRs require fleet deployment and repeatable productionStandardization, modularization, and manufacturing learningAdvanced nuclear reactor technologies and their potentialNuclear safety, Chernobyl, and public confidencePrivate capital and the growing nuclear ecosystemWhy nuclear and renewables should not be treated as opposing campsWhat nuclear must accomplish by 2035 to prove it can truly scaleThe ultimate test is simple: nuclear must become predictable.If the industry can turn extraordinary engineering projects into repeatable industrial products that arrive when promised and near the cost promised, nuclear could play a much larger role in the global energy transition.Links: Tony Roulstone on LinkedInWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

The energy transition is usually framed around generation, storage, transmission, permitting, and capital. But one of the biggest constraints may be hiding in plain sight: the physical materials required to build everything.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search, sits down with Bryan Guido Hassin, Co-Founder and CEO of DexMat, to explore why the future of electrification, renewable energy, AI data centers, grid expansion, aerospace, and advanced manufacturing may depend on a fundamental materials transition. Bryan brings an unusually broad perspective to the conversation. His career has spanned software entrepreneurship, energy technology, climate innovation, venture ecosystems, and deep tech. He also co-founded Third Derivative, where exposure to hundreds of climate technologies helped reveal a recurring challenge: nearly every major electrification pathway depends on rapidly scaling conductive materials such as copper, while supply, performance, and production constraints continue to intensify.  That realization ultimately helped lead Bryan to DexMat and Galvorn, an advanced carbon material made from aligned carbon nanotubes. DexMat is developing Galvorn for applications where conductivity alone is not enough and properties like low weight, strength, flexibility, heat dissipation, corrosion resistance, and durability become critical. In this conversation, Wes and Bryan explore:Why copper could become a major bottleneck for electrification and renewable energy growthHow AI data centers add another layer of pressure to materials demandWhy mining and recycling more copper may help, but may not solve the full problemHow Galvorn is made and why carbon nanotube alignment is the key breakthroughWhere Galvorn can compete with copper today and where copper still has advantagesWhy conductivity must be evaluated alongside weight, heat, strength, frequency, and system designHow wet fiber spinning could help advanced carbon materials scale economicallyThe qualification hurdles behind aerospace, defense, medical, grid, and wire-and-cable adoptionWhy hard-tech commercialization requires manufacturers, investors, policymakers, and customers to move togetherWhat investors often misunderstand about materials startupsHow entirely new materials can unlock designs that were previously impossibleBryan also shares the personal journey behind the work, including the influence of Nobel laureate Rick Smalley at Rice University and how a career spent studying climate innovation ultimately brought him full circle into advanced materials. The bigger idea is simple but consequential: building a cleaner, more electrified economy requires more than changing how we generate energy. It may require changing the materials civilization is built on.For anyone working in renewable energy, grid infrastructure, AI infrastructure, electrification, climate tech, advanced materials, deep tech, or industrial innovation, this episode offers a very different lens on what could determine the speed of the energy transition.Links: Bryan Hassin on LinkedInDexMat's WebsiteInfo on GalvornWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Major energy projects do not fail simply because of weak contractors, poor controls, or the wrong contract structure. They fail when owners misunderstand their role.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search, sits down with Gary Fischer, Executive Director of the Project Production Institute and a longtime capital projects leader who spent more than 40 years at Chevron.Gary brings a rare perspective shaped by work across engineering, construction, operations, benchmarking, major project leadership, and enterprise project-system design. After helping architect Chevron’s project management system, he came to a difficult conclusion: even sophisticated project frameworks can produce disappointing results when they ignore how work actually flows through a production system.The conversation centers on one critical idea: capital projects are not products an owner can simply buy. They are production systems that must be actively designed, led, and integrated.Wes and Gary explore the difference between owners who behave like buyers and owners who behave like builders, along with the responsibilities that cannot be outsourced. These include defining the business outcome, setting requirements, managing stakeholders, making timely decisions, shaping the contracting strategy, and retaining accountability for the final result.They also examine why lump-sum EPC contracts do not eliminate owner risk, how traditional metrics can reward excessive work in process, and why adding more people to a delayed project can sometimes make performance worse.Gary shares lessons from major LNG, refinery, offshore, and supply chain environments, including how production control improved collaboration, reduced manpower, accelerated delivery, and helped teams complete more work with fewer resources.The discussion also applies directly to renewable energy, battery storage, hydrogen, transmission, data centers, and other rapidly scaling infrastructure sectors. As companies deploy capital into new technologies and unfamiliar project environments, owner capability may become one of the most important competitive advantages.In this episode:Why project failure is often misdiagnosedWhat separates a capable owner from a passive buyerWhy contractors cannot own the business outcomeHow contracts can obscure risk without truly transferring itWhy production science changes project decision-makingHow excessive work in process delays completionWhy supply chains should be managed as connected production systemsHow rigid stage gates can encourage the wrong behaviorWhat leaders should evaluate before approving major capitalThe first steps organizations can take to strengthen owner capabilityThis episode is essential listening for CEOs, project sponsors, investors, developers, EPC leaders, and anyone responsible for delivering complex energy and infrastructure projects.Gary Fischer is Executive Director of the Project Production Institute and previously held senior project leadership roles at Chevron, including responsibility for Chevron’s project management system and capital project capability.Links: Project Production Institute Website & ResourcesGary Fischer on LinkedInWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

America’s energy system has entered a new phase.After years of relatively flat electricity demand, the country is now facing sustained growth driven by data centers, industrial expansion, electrification, reshoring, aging infrastructure, and rising resilience needs. The challenge is no longer just how quickly the U.S. can decarbonize. It is how quickly the country can build enough power while protecting reliability, affordability, and long-term emissions progress.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search, welcomes back Lisa Jacobson, President of the Business Council for Sustainable Energy, to unpack the findings of the 2026 Sustainable Energy in America Factbook.Lisa explains why this moment is different from previous periods of load growth, how urgency could help break years of infrastructure inertia, and why no single technology can meet the challenge alone. She makes the case for a broad portfolio that includes renewable energy, storage, natural gas, nuclear, energy efficiency, demand flexibility, sustainable transportation, and smarter use of existing grid assets.The conversation also examines the growing impact of large electricity users. Data centers are an important part of the demand story, but the episode goes far beyond AI. Wes and Lisa explore what rising load means for utilities, regulators, communities, manufacturers, households, and businesses across the country.A central question runs throughout the episode: Who pays for the infrastructure required to power America’s next era?Lisa discusses the need to protect households and small businesses from unfair cost allocation, the role large customers can play in funding grid upgrades or bringing new power resources, and how regulators can evaluate projects based on local capacity, flexibility, community benefit, and long-term risk.The episode also covers the technologies being deployed now. Solar and battery storage continue to lead new capacity additions because they can often move quickly and compete economically. At the same time, firm resources, existing nuclear assets, natural gas, long-duration storage, efficiency, virtual power plants, microgrids, and demand response all have distinct roles to play.Wes and Lisa also examine:Why energy efficiency should be treated as infrastructureHow smart meters and flexible demand can reduce grid strainWhat utilities and regulators should ask before approving major new loadsWhy storage is becoming more important to grid operationsHow corporate clean energy procurement is reshaping the marketWhat policy uncertainty means for real projects and investment decisionsWhich technologies emerged stronger from recent tax and policy changesWhy speed, cost, reliability, and sustainability must be solved togetherLisa closes with a practical message for governors, regulators, and policymakers: align economic development with reliable, affordable, and clean energy, then give the private sector the market signals needed to build.This episode is a clear-eyed look at the next chapter of the U.S. power system and what it will take to meet rising demand without losing sight of consumers, communities, or climate goals.Links: 2026 Sustainable Energy in America FactbookLisa Jacobson on LinkedInBCSE's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Renewable energy has scaled rapidly. Now the industry faces a more demanding question: can solar, wind, and storage operate with the discipline, security, and reliability expected of critical infrastructure?In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search, speaks with Kellie Macpherson, COO of Compliance + Security at Radian Generation and a board member at SEIA (Solar Energy Industries Association).Kellie brings deep experience across NERC compliance, cybersecurity, commissioning, audits, control centers, and renewable asset operations. Her perspective is shaped by a career spent bridging the gap between traditional grid operations and the fast-moving renewable energy sector.The conversation explores why compliance is not simply paperwork, how reliability affects real communities, and why the industry’s long-term credibility depends on operating assets as well as it builds them.Wes and Kellie also break down the significance of NERC Category 2 registration for inverter-based resources. They discuss which solar, wind, storage, and hybrid assets may now fall under increased oversight, why registration alone is not the same as being audit-ready, and what owner-operators should prioritize if they are behind.Cybersecurity is another central theme. Modern renewable plants rely heavily on remote access, third-party vendors, software, connected devices, and operational technology. That creates efficiency, but also expands the attack surface. Kellie explains why commissioning is one of the most vulnerable stages of a project and why access management, patching, physical security, and documented controls need to be built in before commercial operation.The episode also examines the leadership side of compliance. Mature programs require executive attention, clear accountability, employee training, operational evidence, and a company culture that understands the financial, reputational, and reliability risks of getting it wrong.In this episode:Why grid reliability became personal for Kellie early in lifeHow renewable energy became central to bulk power system reliabilityWhat NERC Category 2 means for solar, wind, storage, and hybrid assetsThe difference between registration and true audit readinessWhy cybersecurity should be treated as an operational priority nowThe most common security risks during commissioningWarning signs that a project may face future compliance problemsWhy inverter settings, access controls, patching, and evidence matterHow executives and boards should think about compliance riskWhat trusted renewable operators will do differently over the next three yearsAs electricity demand grows and renewable assets become more essential to the grid, the companies that earn long-term trust will be the ones that combine speed with discipline, growth with resilience, and innovation with operational accountability.Links: Kellie Macpherson on LinkedInRadian Generation's WebsiteKellie's Power Play NewsletterWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Solar has world-changing technology, but the industry still struggles to explain itself clearly.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search, sits down with Aaron Nichols, Marketing and Business Development Specialist at Exact Solar and host of This Week in Solar, to explore why clarity, trust, and human communication have become competitive advantages in renewable energy.Aaron’s path into solar was anything but traditional. Before entering the industry, he worked as a teacher, traveled internationally, trained as a solar installer, and built experience in copywriting and marketing. That background shaped his ability to translate complex topics into language customers, employees, and business leaders can actually understand.The conversation examines why renewable energy companies often narrow their talent pools by hiring for the same backgrounds repeatedly. Aaron explains why small businesses need adaptable problem-solvers, how nontraditional candidates can demonstrate value through consulting, and why creativity and pattern recognition are difficult to identify through a conventional hiring process.Wes and Aaron also unpack the widening gap between corporate communication and human communication. They discuss why jargon-heavy messaging weakens trust, how clear website copy can improve visibility in AI search, and why companies must explain what they do, how they do it, who they help, and why it matters.The episode also explores the right and wrong ways to use artificial intelligence. AI can help simplify internal communication, organize workflows, identify automation opportunities, and generate new creative ideas. But without clear thinking, strong processes, and thoughtful editing, it only produces more noise.Additional topics include:Why stories earn attention before facts close the deal How customer case studies build long-term credibility Why automation should begin with process mapping What solar companies misunderstand about payback periods How authentic short-form video can outperform polished advertising Why simple, consistent communication is difficult to copy How expertise and a trusted public voice can strengthen a company’s brandThis episode is packed with practical insight for solar marketers, founders, sales leaders, recruiters, job seekers, and anyone working to make clean energy easier to understand.Links: Aaron Nichols on LinkedInThis Week in SolarExact Solar's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Electricity demand is entering a sharp new growth cycle. After years of relatively flat demand, the economy is becoming more electric at the same time AI and data centers are exploding. New manufacturing, reshoring, EV charging, building electrification, air conditioning growth, extreme weather, and 24/7 reliability expectations are all pushing more load onto the grid. AI is the loudest accelerant right now, and for good reason. Data centers need massive computing power, cooling systems, backup power, transformers, substations, and high-reliability grid connections. But the bigger story is broader: the energy transition is no longer just about generating cleaner electricity. It is about delivering enough reliable power, fast enough, in the places where demand is actually showing up.That is why nuclear power, SMRs, gas, storage, renewables, transmission, transformers, and interconnection are currently front-page issues.But there is a harder question behind the hype: can we actually build the infrastructure fast enough, safely enough, and predictably enough to meet the moment?In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search sits down with Todd Zabelle, author of Built to Fail: Why Construction Projects Take So Long, Cost Too Much, and How to Fix It. Todd brings more than 35 years of experience in complex capital project delivery and is the Founder and CEO of Strategic Project Solutions, Founder of the Project Production Institute, Founder and CEO of Pacific Contracting, and a founding equity partner of the Lean Construction Institute.Todd’s perspective is clear: many major projects do not fail because the technology is impossible. They fail because the management system is wrong.That matters now because AI, data centers, nuclear power, and SMRs are all converging around the same challenge: the physical world does not move at software speed.Wes and Todd unpack why traditional project management tools often create false confidence, why schedules can become disconnected from actual production, and why measuring progress by money spent can hide problems until it is too late. Todd explains why critical infrastructure needs to be managed as a production system, not just an administrative exercise.The conversation then turns to nuclear power for AI. Todd shares what he heard at Datacloud Global Congress, where nuclear for AI was a major topic, and explains the cultural gap between fast-moving data center developers and the more conservative, safety-driven nuclear industry.They explore the real-world barriers standing between AI’s energy demand and nuclear deployment, including siting, permitting, grid connection, fuel supply, specialized labor, nuclear-grade quality standards, and the mismatch between data center load profiles and steady baseload nuclear generation.The episode also takes a sober look at SMRs. Todd sees real value in smaller batch deployment, especially as data centers grow over time, but warns that SMRs are not plug and play. Even smaller reactors require serious infrastructure, containment, supply chains, fuel strategy, skilled operators, and disciplined execution.This is not a conversation about whether nuclear matters. It clearly does. It is a conversation about what it will actually take to deliver nuclear-grade infrastructure in the AI era.In this episode, Wes and Todd cover:Why U.S. power demand is rising after years of relative stagnationHow AI, data centers, electrification, manufacturing, and reliability needs are reshaping the gridWhy major capital projects often fail long before the public sees the delay or cost overrunHow traditional scheduling, earned value, and percentage completion accounting can create false confidenceWhy project delivery should focus on production systems, not just administrationWhat data center developers may be underestimating about nuclear powerWhy SMRs solve some problems but leave many execution challenges intactThe fuel supply, workforce, and quality-control bottlenecks behind nuclear scalingWhy nuclear-grade welding, rebar, and construction tolerances demand a different level of skillWhat capable owners must do differently on complex infrastructure projectsWhere AI, digital twins, sensors, and automation can actually improve project deliveryWhy the energy transition depends on execution discipline as much as technology innovationIf you are working in renewable energy, nuclear power, data center development, infrastructure, construction, utilities, project delivery, or AI energy strategy, this episode is a grounded look at the gap between ambition and execution.The future of AI will require massive amounts of power. The future of clean energy will require massive amounts of infrastructure. And as Todd makes clear, the winners will be the companies and leaders who understand how to actually build.Links:Todd Zabelle on LinkedInProject Production Institute's WebsiteStrategic Project Solutions WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth sits down with John Berger, CEO of Otovo, to unpack one of the most important and under-discussed problems in distributed energy: the solar service crisis.Otovo began as a European rooftop solar marketplace, but under John’s leadership, the company is being reshaped into an AI-enabled energy service platform for homes and businesses across Europe and the United States. The new model focuses on what happens after solar panels, batteries, generators, EV chargers, and other behind-the-meter assets are installed. Who monitors them? Who fixes them? Who answers the phone when something goes wrong?John Berger brings a rare operator’s perspective. Before Otovo, he founded and led Sunnova for more than 12 years, helping build one of the most recognized residential energy companies in the United States. Today, he is applying those lessons to a different problem: creating the service layer that distributed energy needs in order to scale reliably. The conversation explores why installation and service are fundamentally different businesses. Berger explains why installation is a construction business measured in weeks and months, while service is a logistics business measured in hours and days. That distinction matters as more homeowners and businesses are left with orphaned solar systems, unreliable support, and unclear warranty paths.Wes and John also dive into Otovo’s acquisition-led growth strategy, including the company’s expansion into the United States, its growing service footprint, and the importance of building density and scale in field operations. They discuss how Otovo is using its proprietary AI platform, Endurance, to reduce software costs, automate workflows, support dispatch, improve response times, and change the economics of energy service. This episode also looks ahead to the grid. As solar, storage, EV chargers, generators, and load management become more common behind the meter, reliability becomes essential not only for customers but also for virtual power plants and grid participation. Berger makes the case that service is not a side issue. It may be the missing precondition for distributed energy to become real infrastructure.Topics covered include:The shift from solar installation to long-term energy serviceWhy behind-the-meter assets need a dedicated service layerThe difference between construction businesses and logistics businessesHow orphaned solar customers became a major industry problemOtovo’s reinvention from European marketplace to AI-native service companyHow Endurance is changing the cost structure of field serviceWhy AI matters only if it improves speed, cost, reliability, and customer experienceThe role of batteries, generators, EV chargers, and load managers in home energyWhat virtual power plants need before they can scaleWhy the future of residential energy may look more like Amazon Prime than traditional utility serviceThis is a timely, candid conversation about where the energy transition gets real. More solar and batteries matter, but the next phase depends on whether those systems actually work, whether customers trust them, and whether someone is accountable for keeping them online.Links:John Berger on LinkedInOtovo's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Streetlights are one of the most overlooked pieces of community infrastructure. Most people only notice them when they fail. But for builders, developers, utilities, municipalities, and storm-prone communities, streetlighting can quietly shape project timelines, infrastructure costs, public safety, resilience, and long-term operating models.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth sits down with Liam Ryan, CEO of Streetleaf, a Tampa-based company building off-grid, solar-powered streetlighting systems with integrated batteries, controls, remote monitoring, and a managed service model designed to remove the friction of traditional grid-tied lighting. Liam’s path into clean infrastructure was anything but conventional. After studying economics at Cornell and working in wildlife conservation in Mozambique, he returned to Tampa during the pandemic and began exploring a streetlighting challenge tied to land development in Florida. What started as a practical problem has grown into a national infrastructure story, with Streetleaf now working across builders, developers, utilities, public spaces, and resilience-focused applications. The conversation goes far beyond solar panels on poles. Liam explains why the real competition is not just the grid, but the cost and complexity of trenching, conduit, utility coordination, delays, maintenance contracts, and long-term community fees. Streetleaf’s model is built around a simple but powerful equation: if the solar panel, battery, controls, and communications stack can cost less than connecting a streetlight to the grid, the cleaner option can become the practical default.Wes and Liam also dig into storm resilience, one of Streetleaf’s strongest proof points. In hurricane-impacted communities, Streetleaf’s off-grid lights have continued operating when conventional grid-tied systems went dark, turning streetlights into visible anchors of safety and continuity during outages. Liam shares how events like Hurricane Ian, Helene, Milton, and wildfire recovery work in Hawaii shaped Streetleaf’s product, operations, and sense of purpose. This episode also explores what it takes to sell new infrastructure into conservative markets. Liam breaks down how Streetleaf reduces adoption risk for builders and utilities, why managed service matters, how national relationships with major homebuilders helped shift the company from early adoption to mainstream credibility, and why “smart infrastructure” only matters when it creates real value.If you care about renewable energy, distributed infrastructure, resilient communities, land development, utility innovation, or the hidden systems shaping how we build, this episode will change the way you look at the streetlight outside your window.In this episode, we cover:Why streetlights are a hidden infrastructure bottleneckHow Streetleaf’s off-grid solar streetlights change project economicsWhy trenching, utility coordination, and delays create hidden costsHow solar streetlighting supports hurricane and outage resilienceWhat conservative buyers need before adopting new infrastructureWhy managed service can accelerate clean technology adoptionHow Streetleaf is scaling through builders, developers, utilities, and municipalitiesWhat “smart streets” should really mean in practical termsWhy the future of infrastructure may be cleaner, simpler, and more distributedLinks:Liam Ryan on LinkedIn Streetleaf's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

What if the next major clean energy opportunity is all around us in the systems cities already use every day?In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search sits down with Drew Maggio, Technical Director at Highmark Building Efficiency, to explore how heat pumps, waste heat recovery, wastewater energy transfer, subway systems, data centers, thermal energy networks, and building electrification are reshaping the future of urban decarbonization.Drew brings a rare blend of hands-on mechanical experience, engineering depth, and real-world building systems expertise. At Highmark, he works across emerging HVAC and plumbing technologies, regulatory compliance, industry partnerships, and the practical challenge of helping advanced building efficiency solutions make it from concept to installed, operating assets.This conversation starts with the fundamentals: why heat pumps are not simply electric boilers, why coefficient of performance matters, and why building electrification requires more than swapping fossil fuel equipment for electric equipment. Drew explains how the best projects depend on insulation, sizing, design assumptions, controls, contractor familiarity, and a clear understanding of how buildings actually operate.From there, the episode expands into a bigger idea: cities are full of hidden thermal energy. Wastewater flowing through sewer systems, heat trapped in subway tunnels, data centers rejecting excess heat, and buildings cooling year-round can all become part of a smarter thermal energy ecosystem.Wes and Drew also discuss wastewater energy transfer, why adoption has been slower in New York than in some other cities, how thermal energy networks could allow buildings to share heat like the electric grid shares power, and why Local Law 97 is pushing building owners to rethink long-term compliance and operating costs.This episode is especially relevant for professionals in renewable energy, HVAC, building efficiency, real estate, engineering, sustainability, infrastructure, and energy policy. It is a practical, systems-level look at how cities can decarbonize not only by generating more clean power, but by recovering, moving, storing, and sharing the energy already inside them.Topics include:Heat pumps and building electrificationWaste heat recovery from sewers, subways, and data centersWastewater energy transfer and thermal energy networksNYC Local Law 97 and compliance-driven retrofitsThermal storage and flexible building loadsBuilding envelope performance and project sizingThe future of urban decarbonizationLinksDrew Maggio on LinkedInHIGHMARK's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Fusion has spent decades sitting just beyond the horizon. But according to Will Regan, Founder and Chief Scientist at Pacific Fusion, that story is changing fast.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search, sits down with Will to explore why fusion is moving from a distant scientific promise into a practical race around execution, manufacturing, modularity, and real-world clean energy infrastructure.Will brings a rare perspective to the fusion conversation. Before co-founding Pacific Fusion, he served as an ARPA-E Fellow, spent more than seven years at X, Alphabet’s moonshot factory, and helped create the original vision and team behind Mineral. Today, he is helping lead Pacific Fusion’s effort to commercialize pulsed magnetic inertial fusion, a pathway designed around modular pulser systems, compact chambers, and simplified fusion targets. The conversation breaks down fusion in plain English, including why it has the potential to deliver abundant, clean, firm power with low land and material requirements. Will explains how Pacific Fusion’s approach differs from laser-driven inertial fusion and magnetic confinement systems, and why recent breakthroughs at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Sandia National Laboratories, and in pulsed-power hardware helped make 2023 the right moment to build a company around this pathway. A major theme throughout the episode is that fusion progress cannot be judged by vague headlines alone. Will walks through a more useful scorecard, from scientific proof of concept to scientific gain, net facility gain, power gain, and ultimately affordable power. Pacific Fusion’s stated near-term objective is net facility gain by 2030, meaning more fusion energy out than the total stored energy input to the machine. Wes and Will also dig into the industrial reality behind commercial fusion: why modularity matters, why targets can make or break the economics, what it takes to move from one successful fusion shot to repeatable infrastructure, and how a future fusion plant could fit into the grid as clean firm power alongside solar, wind, storage, geothermal, hydro, and nuclear fission.This episode is a grounded look at one of the most ambitious frontiers in energy, without the hype. Fusion may still face major challenges in repetition, durability, supply chains, fuel, workforce, and cost. But the opportunity is enormous: clean, reliable, high-density energy that could reshape what is possible for the grid, industry, and global abundance.In this episode, we cover:Why fusion is entering a new chapter focused on executionHow Pacific Fusion’s pulsed magnetic inertial fusion approach worksWhat the 2022 NIF and Sandia breakthroughs changedWhy modular pulser systems could matter for cost and scaleThe difference between ignition, scientific gain, net facility gain, and power gainWhy Pacific Fusion is targeting net facility gain by 2030How fusion could support clean firm power and real grid reliabilityWhy fusion will need engineers, technicians, tradespeople, and builders, not just PhDsWhat a future of abundant clean energy could unlockLinks: Will Regan on LinkedInPacific Fusion's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

The energy transition is often discussed in terms of solar panels, wind turbines, electric vehicles, batteries, and grid infrastructure. But beneath all of that progress sits a harder question: where do the critical minerals come from?In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth sits down with Erica Ocampo, Chief Sustainability Officer at The Metals Company, for a candid and thought-provoking conversation about deep-sea polymetallic nodules, critical mineral supply chains, recycling limits, ocean ecosystems, and the real-world trade-offs behind clean energy growth.Erica brings a rare perspective to this debate. Originally from Colombia, she began her academic journey in music before becoming a chemical engineer and sustainability leader. Her career has spanned Dow, Sims Limited, and now The Metals Company, giving her deep experience across chemicals, plastics, packaging, metals recycling, ESG reporting, circular economy strategy, and emerging critical mineral supply. At The Metals Company, Erica works at the center of one of the most complex and controversial questions in the energy transition: whether polymetallic nodules found on the deep ocean floor can provide nickel, cobalt, copper, and manganese with a lower overall impact than some land-based mining pathways. These metals are essential for batteries, manufacturing, infrastructure, electrification, and energy security. This episode does not offer easy answers. Instead, Erica and Wes explore the uncomfortable realities that often get left out of clean energy conversations. Recycling is essential, but it cannot meet near-term demand alone. Mineral supply chains are not just environmental systems, they are geopolitical systems. Land-based mining can carry serious social and ecological costs. Deep-sea mineral collection raises legitimate questions about ocean ecosystems, governance, monitoring, and trust. The conversation also dives into The Metals Company’s work in the Clarion-Clipperton Zone, the nature of polymetallic nodules, the engineering behind nodule collection, the environmental studies surrounding the NORI-D area, and why Erica believes sustainability leaders must move beyond slogans and engage with evidence, risk, and trade-offs. Listeners will hear Erica’s perspective on why discomfort can be productive, why pragmatic sustainability is not the same as compromise, and why building trust may be just as important as building technology. She also shares what it means to build ESG systems before a new industry scales, how to think about guardrails from day one, and why the future of clean energy depends on asking better questions about materials, ecosystems, communities, and accountability.Topics covered include:Critical minerals and the physical reality of the energy transitionDeep-sea polymetallic nodules and The Metals Company’s approachNickel, cobalt, copper, and manganese supply challengesWhy recycling matters but cannot solve the whole problemChina’s role in critical mineral processing and geopoliticsEnvironmental trade-offs between land-based mining and ocean nodule collectionSocial impacts of mineral extraction and Indigenous community concernsOcean ecosystem uncertainty, plume impacts, and monitoringESG strategy, governance, transparency, and stakeholder trustPragmatism, sustainability leadership, and the future of clean energy mineralsThis is a must-listen episode for renewable energy leaders, sustainability professionals, battery and EV stakeholders, mining and metals executives, policymakers, investors, and anyone who wants a more honest understanding of what it really takes to build the clean energy economy.Links: Erica Ocampo on LinkedInThe Metals Company WebsiteThe Metals Company VideosWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Transmission may be the most important energy story most people are not talking about.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth sits down with Frank Tybor, Chief Technology Officer at Infravision, to unpack one of the biggest bottlenecks in the energy transition: how we actually build the grid fast enough to support renewable energy, AI data centers, electrification, industrial growth, and rising power demand.Frank brings a rare systems engineering perspective to the conversation. His background spans SpaceX, Energy Vault, ThinkOrbital, and now Infravision, where he is helping scale drone-enabled robotics for transmission construction. At Infravision, the mission is not simply to replace helicopters with drones. It is to rethink the full construction workflow, combining heavy-lift drones, intelligent ground equipment, specialty line hardware, software, trained crews, and repeatable field systems.Wes and Frank explore why traditional transmission construction is so difficult to scale, especially when projects depend on highly specialized helicopter operations, skilled labor, complex terrain, environmental constraints, and tight outage windows. They also dig into why the old timeline for grid buildout no longer works in a world where solar farms, data centers, and new loads can come online far faster than transmission infrastructure.Frank breaks down how Infravision’s drone-enabled system supports pilot line stringing, tension stringing, emergency response, and challenging construction environments where helicopters may be expensive, constrained, risky, or unavailable. The conversation also covers what utilities actually care about when adopting new technology: safety, reliability, cost, schedule certainty, and confidence that the system works repeatedly in real field conditions.Key themes include:Grid expansion as a critical constraint on clean energy deploymentWhy transmission construction has lagged behind other areas of energy innovationHow drone-enabled robotics can reduce risk and improve construction scalabilityThe role of intelligent ground equipment, winches, line hardware, and control systemsWhat the energy transition, AI growth, and industrial load growth mean for grid infrastructureWhy the next wave of grid innovation may come from better construction systems, not just better generationThis episode is a must-listen for utility leaders, renewable energy developers, grid infrastructure professionals, investors, policymakers, and anyone interested in the physical realities behind the energy transition.Links: Frank Tybor on LinkedInInfravision's WebsiteInfravision VideosWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Episode: Sandhya Murali, Chief Strategy & Marketing Officer at Perch EnergyCommunity solar is often described as a simple promise: sign up, receive credits, save money, and support clean energy. But behind that promise is a complex operating system that determines whether community solar actually works for customers, developers, utilities, and the communities it is meant to serve.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth sits down with Sandhya Murali, Chief Strategy & Marketing Officer at Perch Energy, to unpack the hidden infrastructure behind one of the most important segments of the clean energy transition.Sandhya brings a rare combination of capital markets discipline, founder operating experience, and deep commitment to clean energy access. Before joining Perch, she co-founded Solstice, a mission-driven community solar company focused on expanding access for renters, low-to-moderate income households, and others historically left out of rooftop solar. Her earlier career in investment banking at Barclays, along with her MBA from MIT Sloan, gives her a unique lens on how mission, finance, and market design intersect in renewable energy. This conversation moves beyond the usual case for community solar and into the work most people never see: subscriber acquisition, billing, crediting, eligibility verification, compliance, customer trust, and retention. Sandhya explains why community solar is not only about generating clean power. It is also about making sure the customer experience is reliable, understandable, and financially meaningful.A major theme throughout the episode is trust. Many customers still wonder whether community solar is real, whether there is a catch, and whether the savings will actually appear on their utility bill. Sandhya breaks down how clear enrollment, accurate billing, transparent savings, and responsive customer support all shape whether the model can scale.The episode also explores low-to-moderate income access and why Sandhya believes inclusion cannot be treated as a side initiative. She makes the case that community solar should be designed for the households most burdened by energy costs, while also remaining financeable for developers and investors. That means better program design, simplified enrollment, utility consolidated billing, and practical solutions that reduce friction without increasing risk.Wes and Sandhya also discuss Perch Energy’s role as a scaled community solar subscriber management platform. After Perch’s acquisition of Solstice, the company manages more than 3 GW across over 1,000 community solar projects in 16 states, serving more than 430,000 residential customer equivalents. Key topics covered include: Why the hardest part of community solar is often invisible  How subscriber management functions like critical infrastructure  Why trust is the foundation of customer adoption and retention  The importance of utility consolidated billing  How self-attestation could simplify low-income enrollment  Why community solar markets need stable policy and predictable rules  How scale helps, and where local market complexity remains  What regulators and utilities can do to improve program design  Why community solar matters in a future defined by load growth, affordability, and distributed energy For clean energy leaders, developers, policymakers, investors, and anyone working to make the energy transition more inclusive, this episode offers a practical and deeply human look at what it takes to turn clean energy access into reality.Links:Sandhya Murali on LinkedInPerch Energy's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Energy storage is no longer a future need. It is becoming the backbone of a reliable, renewable grid.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth sits down with Eugene Beh, Founder and CEO of Quino Energy, to explore one of the most important questions in the energy transition: how do we store renewable power affordably, safely, and for long durations?Quino Energy is developing water-based organic flow batteries that store electricity in quinone molecules, a fundamentally different approach from lithium-ion batteries and traditional vanadium flow batteries. Instead of relying on expensive mined metals or flammable battery cells, Quino is focused on organic electrolytes that can potentially lower costs, improve safety, and scale through existing flow battery infrastructure.Eugene breaks down the basics of flow batteries in simple terms, explaining how liquid electrolytes act like fuel tanks and how flow battery stacks function more like an engine. He also explains why Quino’s quinone-based electrolyte can work with existing vanadium flow battery hardware with minimal changes, creating a faster path to deployment.The conversation goes deep into the real challenges of commercialization: manufacturing, degradation, bankability, safety, and proving performance in the field. Eugene shares how Quino’s continuous, zero-waste production process converts widely available dyestuff materials into battery-ready electrolyte without downstream purification. He also discusses why non-flammable storage matters for hospitals, communities, data centers, islands, military bases, and other critical infrastructure.Listeners will also hear about Quino’s field demonstration plans, including a project serving a medical center in Lancaster, California, and the company’s strategy to repurpose existing tank storage infrastructure for grid-scale energy storage.This episode is a clear, practical look at how chemistry, infrastructure, and manufacturing come together to solve one of the grid’s biggest bottlenecks.Topics covered include:Why long-duration energy storage is becoming essentialHow flow batteries differ from lithium-ion batteriesWhy quinone-based electrolytes could reduce flow battery costsThe safety and permitting advantages of non-flammable storageHow existing fuel tank infrastructure could become grid storageWhy data centers and critical facilities are strong early marketsWhat it takes to move battery chemistry from the lab to the fieldHow Quino Energy is approaching commercialization through partnershipsIf you care about renewable energy, grid reliability, long-duration storage, battery innovation, or the future of clean infrastructure, this episode is a must-listen.Links:Eugene Beh on LinkedInQuino Energy's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Electricity demand is accelerating from every direction: AI, data centers, transportation, home electrification, industrial load growth, and rising expectations for reliability. But building new grid infrastructure is getting harder, slower, and more expensive. In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, Wes Ashworth sits down with Vinnie Campo, Co-founder and CEO of Haven Energy, to explore how residential batteries could become one of the most important pieces of the modern grid.Vinnie returns to the show with a major update on Haven Energy’s evolution. What began as a company helping homeowners access batteries has grown into a broader mission: deploying, owning, and operating distributed energy assets that can provide real, dispatchable capacity for utilities while giving homeowners backup power, lower costs, and a simpler energy experience. The conversation explores why the current grid challenge is different from past demand cycles. Vinnie explains how electrification is pushing load growth into millions of homes and neighborhoods, not just large data centers. That creates a localized infrastructure challenge where transformers, substations, and transmission systems are under increasing pressure. Instead of relying only on new centralized generation, Haven is focused on deploying distributed batteries where capacity is needed most. Wes and Vinnie also break down Haven’s business model shift from selling batteries to owning and operating them through a low-cost subscription model. By bringing financing, sales, installation, and optimization closer together, Haven is working to reduce soft costs, simplify the customer experience, and make home batteries accessible to a much broader market. Key topics covered include:Grid capacity constraints and why demand growth is different this timeHow AI, transportation, and home electrification are reshaping electricity needsWhy utilities are moving from virtual power plant pilots to full-scale deploymentThe role of residential batteries as localized grid infrastructureHaven Energy’s shift toward battery subscriptions starting around $49 per monthWhy homeowners want simplicity, backup power, lower bills, and less complexityHow distributed power plants could become as important as centralized assetsThe role of AI in reducing permitting, design, installation, and interconnection frictionWhy Vinnie believes every home could eventually have a batteryThis episode is a clear look at the future of home batteries, distributed power plants, virtual power plants, grid reliability, and the next era of residential energy. If you care about how the grid evolves, how utilities meet new demand, or how homeowners become part of the energy system without becoming energy managers, this conversation is essential listening.Links: Vinnie Campo on LinkedInHaven Energy's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/

Clean energy may be cheaper, cleaner, and more scalable than ever, but that does not mean the transition will happen fast enough, fairly enough, or automatically.In this episode of Green Giants: Titans of Renewable Energy, host Wes Ashworth sits down with Sachu Constantine, Executive Director of Vote Solar, to explore the policy, power structures, and market rules shaping America’s clean energy future.Sachu brings more than three decades of experience across international development, utility regulation, solar policy, and clean energy advocacy. His journey spans Peace Corps service in Ghana, regulatory work at the California Public Utilities Commission, private sector experience with SunPower, and national leadership at Vote Solar. The conversation centers on a critical tension: solar and storage are ready, but the system around them often is not. Sachu explains why better technology does not always win on its own, especially in an energy system shaped by monopoly utilities, legacy incentives, interconnection bottlenecks, rate design fights, and regulatory processes many communities never get a meaningful chance to influence.Wes and Sachu unpack how utilities actually make money, why public utility commissions matter, and how policies around net metering, resource adequacy, demand charges, interconnection queues, virtual power plants, and distributed solar can either accelerate or slow the transition.They also dig into one of the episode’s most important themes: equity is not a side issue. Communities facing high energy burdens, poor service quality, and limited clean energy access should not be last in line for the benefits of solar. They should help shape the system from the beginning.Listeners will come away with a clearer understanding of where clean energy decisions really get made, why public participation matters, and what it takes to build a future where solar is affordable and accessible to all.In this episode, we cover:Why clean energy is inevitable only if we actively shape the rulesHow utility incentives influence the pace of solar adoptionWhy public utility commissions are critical to the clean energy transitionThe role of interconnection queues in slowing renewable deploymentHow distributed solar, batteries, and virtual power plants can support grid reliabilityWhy affordability is one of the defining energy issues of the momentHow energy equity shows up in real communities, bills, and service qualityWhat policy changes could accelerate solar adoption in the next five yearsWhy coalition building and community trust are essential to lasting progressHow everyday people can use their voice to influence energy decisionsThe energy transition is not just about technology. It is about who has power, who gets access, who pays, who benefits, and who shows up when the rules are being written.Guest: Sachu Constantine, Executive Director, Vote Solar Host: Wes Ashworth, President of Lee Group Search Episode Theme: Solar policy, energy equity, utility regulation, grid modernization, clean energy advocacy, and the future of distributed energyLinks: Sachu Constantine on LinkedInVote Solar's WebsiteWes Ashworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslgs/Email: [email protected]://leegroupsearch.com/green-giants-podcast/https://leegroupsearch.com/