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Hey White Women
by Daniella Mestyanek Young
In this conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca discuss their experiences with cults and the realization that white supremacy is a cult. They explore the stages of leaving a cult and the process of deconstructing white supremacy. They also discuss the concept of white privilege and the need for white people to deprogram from the myth of white supremacy. They highlight the importance of understanding and acknowledging racism and the role of white people in dismantling white supremacy. They also touch on the parallels between cult dynamics and societal systems. The conversation explores the importance of recognizing and dismantling white supremacy within oneself and society. It emphasizes the need for white women to actively engage in anti-racism work and challenge their own biases.
Episodes
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 69 | Leading isn't Listening
In this episode, Daniella and Rebecca reflect on the dynamics of race, whiteness, and leadership within activist spaces, particularly focusing on white women's roles in social justice movements. They unpack tensions around who is being centered, who is being listened to, and how "doing the work"...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 66 | You're Late. Come In Quietly.
Content warnings: Racism, white supremacy, police violence (Philando Castile referenced), ICE and immigration enforcement, genocide of Indigenous people, slavery, cult abuse (rape/torture/murder referenced generally), suicide (referenced generally), war/imperialism. Daniella and Rebecca begin by...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 65 | We Are The Adults Now
CONTENT WARNINGS: Discussion of racism/white supremacy, police brutality, authoritarianism, gun violence/school shootings, and cult dynamics. Daniella and Rebecca have a wide-ranging conversation about voice, power, and whiteness. They start with how "voice modulation" shows up in conservative...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 64 | Respectability Rebranded
In this episode, Daniella and Rebecca explore how white womanhood functions as a powerful cultural and political identity within American systems of power. The conversation examines how whiteness, gender, and class intersect to produce both vulnerability and authority, and how white women are…
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 63 | Performative Relief
In this episode, Daniella is joined by White Woman Whisperer for a wide-ranging, unflinching conversation about whiteness, community, deconstruction, and political responsibility. Using current events, historical context, and personal experience, they explore why white Americans, especially white...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Women Whisperer | 62 | Driving While White
In this episode, Daniella and Rebecca explore how whiteness, cult conditioning, and authoritarian systems shape fear, behavior, and identity, using car trauma, policing, and "common sense" social scripts as entry points. Daniella connects her evangelical cult upbringing to intense driving anxiety...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 61 | Moral Superiority Binaries
In this episode, Daniella and Rebecca unpack the backlash following Jasmine Crockett's announcement that she's running for Senate, focusing on how quickly public support—especially from white women—turned into purity testing. They examine why Black women in power are routinely held to impossible...
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Hey White Women with Knitting Cult Lady and White Woman Whisperer | 60 | De-radicalization
In this episode, Rebecca and Daniella dive into how cult dynamics show up way beyond just "cults." Daniella shares pieces of her childhood in the Children of God and how those patterns of coercion, shame, and identity erasure followed her into adulthood—including her time in the military. They...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 59 | In-Person Special Episode
In this in-person episode, Daniella and Rebecca dive deep into racial dynamics, whiteness, group behavior, cult patterns, and the ways white women, white culture, and American norms create invisible and often unexamined hierarchies. They explore how racism shows up in everyday interactions — such...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 58 | Puritan Whiteness
This episode is a wide-ranging conversation between Daniella and Rebecca about the everyday and systemic ways whiteness shapes culture, identity, and behavior. They discuss how beauty standards, camera technology, tanning culture, and even small tech features like autocapitalization reflect…
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 57 | Who's Speaking Matters
This episode features a deep, nuanced conversation between Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca about whiteness, power, community, cultural disconnection, and the complicated dynamics of speaking about social issues publicly. They explore how race, gender, and perceived authority shape who is...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 56 | Enablism
In this wide-ranging and incisive conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca (White Woman Whisperer) examine how white womanhood functions within patriarchal and white supremacist systems. They discuss cultural habits like performative complaining, body-shaming as small talk, and the...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 55 | Weaponizing Whiteness
In this episode, Daniella Mestyanek Young (Knitting Cult Lady) and Rebecca (White Woman Whisperer) unpack the process of recording the audiobook version of Daniella's upcoming book and explore how their collaboration reflects deeper dynamics of race, privilege, and creative responsibility. They...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 54 | White Rapture Day
Rebecca (White Woman Whisperer) and Daniella ("Knitting Cult Lady") explore how white American culture is shaped by control, conformity, and suppression of individuality—from the witch trials to modern social norms. They connect white supremacy's emphasis on stoicism and sameness to military...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | 53 | It Can Be That Easy
In this episode, Daniella ("Knitting Cult Lady") and Rebecca ("White Woman Whisperer") have a deep, layered conversation about deconstructing whiteness, celebrity culture, and over-identification through the lens of Taylor Swift. Daniella shares her personal process of deconstructing her identity...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | ep52 | Consumer Privilege
In this episode, Rebecca and Daniella explore the intersections of race, consumer privilege, tone policing, and digital labor—particularly how these dynamics play out for women of color online. Rebecca revisits her viral "caption gate" controversy, unpacking how white women often use moralized...
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady and White Woman Whisperer | ep51 | White Woman Tears
This episode features Daniella ("Knitting Cult Lady") and Rebecca (the "White Woman Whisperer") unpacking themes of violence, privilege, whiteness, cult dynamics, and the demands placed on public figures to perform morality online. They reflect on recent events, including reactions to political...
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White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady & White Woman Whisperer | ep50 | Paradox of Proving Yourself
In this conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young ("Knitting Cult Lady") and Rebecca (aka "White Woman Whisperer") explore how cult dynamics show up in the U.S. military, publishing, and everyday systems of power. Daniella shares insights from her forthcoming book Culting of America, reflecting on…
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Hey White Women w/ Knitting Cult Lady and White Woman Whisperer | ep49 | Un-Gaslighting Whiteness
This episode brings Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca into a candid conversation about cult dynamics, purity culture, whiteness, and the process of building communities rooted in truth rather than secrecy or shame. They unpack how cult logic—like the weaponization of secrets, unquestioned...
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Hey White Women with Knitting Cult Lady and White Woman Whisperer | ep48 | Purity Prison
In this episode, Daniella and Rebecca dive into themes of creativity, body image, cultural conditioning, and the lingering impacts of cult and purity culture. Daniella shares her journey of transforming clothing and crafts as a form of healing, while Rebecca draws connections between whiteness,...
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Hey White Women with Knitting Cult Lady and White Woman Whisperer | ep47 | Main Characters
In this episode, Rebecca and Daniella (Knitting Cult Lady) dive into the intersections of social conditioning, cult dynamics, whiteness, and language. The conversation begins with Daniella's reflections on color, identity, and creativity, connecting personal expression (knitting, design,...
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Hey White Women with Knitting Cult Lady and White Woman Whisperer | ep46 | Communalism
In this rich and emotionally resonant conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca dive deep into the intersections of community, capitalism, creativity, and healing. They explore how authentic relationships—both personal and professional—can serve as a foundation for meaningful work and...
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Hey White Women with Knitting Cult Lady and White Woman Whisperer | Episode 45 | Paperwork Privilege & More
In this episode, Rebecca and Daniella weave between personal stories, cultural critique, and nuanced discussions of race, privilege, and community building. Daniella shares her upcoming RV book tour, the planning quirks of packing crafting supplies, and the deliberate choice to travel through...
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Hey White Women with Knitting Cult Lady and White Woman Whisperer Episode 44 | Community is inconvenient
In this rich, wide-ranging conversation, Daniella and Rebecca reflect on systems of power, whiteness, deconstruction, and community. They begin by discussing "front-of-room advantage"—how audiences are conditioned to trust authority figures just because they're positioned at the front. This leads...
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Episode 43 | Detangling White Supremacy
This episode is a wide-ranging conversation between Daniella and Rebecca about power, privilege, whiteness, and the dynamics of control in both personal and societal contexts. They share personal stories and cultural analysis to unpack how whiteness shapes perspective, behavior, and expectations;...
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Episode 42 | The Language of Systems
This episode dives into the cultural and personal narratives around productivity, storytelling, and the illusion of being "caught up." Rebecca and Daniella explore the language we use—like "caught up," "trappings of success," and "by the book"—and unpack how these phrases reveal underlying…
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Episode 41 | George Washington Didn't Have Wooden Teeth
In this fiery, funny, and no-holds-barred conversation, Rebecca and Daniella go deep on why everything in America feels like a cult. From MLMs to marathons, publishing to patriotism, they expose the unspoken systems that keep us exhausted, competitive, and obedient. Together, they unpack the cult...
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Episode 40 | Is Whinnie the Pooh A WS Cult?
In this candid and wide-ranging conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young unpacks how cult dynamics shape everyday life—from the military to motherhood, from corporate jargon to childhood punishments over "scowling at the Word of God." She and Rebecca dig into the subtle and overt ways white…
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Episode 39 | Living Rooms are for LIVING
In this episode, Daniella and Rebecca unpack what happens when white belief in institutional fairness collides with the lived reality of systemic injustice. Daniella reflects on a moment of betrayal in traffic court and how it cracked open her assumptions about justice, privilege, and whiteness....
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Episode 38 | Growth Is Uncomfortable
In this powerful conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca unpack how systems—from the military to corporate culture to parenting ideologies—often rely on cult-like tactics to demand obedience, erase individuality, and sell comfort as a virtue. Together, they examine the roles of love...
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Episode 37 | Are Red-Heads Black?
In this episode of Hey White Women, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca dive into the layered and surprising discourse around a viral TikTok trend that claimed "all redheads are Black." What starts as a joke becomes a powerful lens for unpacking themes of othering, cultural belonging, and the...
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Episode 36 | Growth Before Activism
In this episode, Daniella and Rebecca engage in a deep conversation about the complexities of white supremacy, the importance of listening to Black voices, and the need for white women to confront their own roles in social justice movements. They explore hypothetical scenarios regarding protests,...
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Episode 35 | Colors for Community
In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore the intersections of fashion, identity, and race, discussing how personal expression through clothing can challenge societal norms. They delve into the complexities of navigating whiteness in diverse spaces, the cultural disconnect evident in...
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Episode 34 | Boom Boom Beige
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of platform building, the evolution of ideas, and the impact of cultural narratives on personal identity. They discuss the importance of vulnerability in leadership, the tenets of white supremacy, and the challenges of navigating...
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Episode 33 | Protest or Parade?
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, activism, and the impact of online criticism, particularly on black women. They discuss the intersection of political identity and extremism, the role of white women in social movements, and the importance of listening…
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Episode 32 | "Lickies and Chewies?"
This conversation delves into the complexities of race, privilege, and activism, particularly focusing on the experiences of black women and the reactions of white women in the context of social justice. The speakers discuss the historical and current realities of systemic oppression, the...
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Episode 31 | Defensiveness and White Identity
In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore the complexities of race, identity, and the dynamics of power within societal structures. They discuss the defensiveness often exhibited by white women in conversations about race, the impact of language, and the role of white women in…
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Episode 30 | Speaking equitably with confidence
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca delve into the complexities of cult dynamics, particularly focusing on the Nation of Islam. They explore personal experiences with cults, the intersection of race and cults, and the societal responses to these groups. The discussion highlights the role…
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Episode 29 | Faces on mountains and people in streets
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore various themes including creativity during the COVID pandemic, the rehumanization of historical figures, the dynamics of cults and community, the complexities of whiteness and feminism, parenting approaches, and the military's cult-like nature....
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Episode 28 | Appropriation or Appropriate
This conversation explores the intersections of capitalism, cultural identity, and the dynamics of power in relationships. The speakers discuss the gig economy as a potential alternative to traditional capitalism, the complexities of cultural appropriation, and the challenges of navigating…
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Episode 27 | The "Making" Money Myth
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the intersection of music, cult experiences, and cultural identity. They discuss how growing up in a cult influenced their music preferences, particularly the emotional suppression associated with it. The conversation delves into the complexities...
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Episode 26 | You Don't Have to "Get" Kendrick Lamar
This conversation explores the cultural significance of Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl performance, delving into themes of resistance, identity, and the complexities of race and gender in America. The speakers discuss the symbolism in music and dance as forms of cultural expression and resistance…
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Episode 25 | Quit Playing Monopoly
In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore themes of empowerment, self-expression, and the societal narratives that shape our identities. They discuss the impact of fashion on self-perception, the dangers of conspiracy theories, and the importance of community and networking. The...
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Episode 24 | Grindset is Gross
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of living in a society influenced by Donald Trump, the rise of online cultures, and the misogyny that permeates social interactions. They discuss the role of white women in society, the importance of community and self-care, and...
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Episode 23 | Hillmantok University
This conversation delves into the complexities of therapy, race, and community dynamics, particularly focusing on the experiences of individuals navigating these spaces. The speakers discuss the challenges of finding appropriate therapeutic support, the importance of community in healing, and the...
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Episode 22 | Treat Yourself
This conversation explores the themes of adulthood, personal choices, loyalty, community, and the complexities of societal structures. The speakers discuss the importance of treating oneself, the challenges of loyalty in organizations, the individuality within the military, and the role of...
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Episode 21 | Cult Baby Musical Concept
In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore the intersection of creativity, personal identity, and societal structures. They discuss the emotional connections formed through creative projects, the development of Daniella's musical 'Uncultured', and the themes of gender and power dynamics...
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Episode 20 | Deconstructing Phrases and Idioms
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, privilege, and the language we use to discuss these topics. They delve into the implications of comfort and consent in conversations about race, the military's perspective on colorblindness, and the concept of privilege...
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Episode 19 | Wicked takes on Wicked
In this conversation, the speakers explore the themes of race, identity, and representation through the lens of the musical Wicked. They discuss the implications of casting choices, the critique of whiteness, and the importance of diverse narratives in art and media. The conversation emphasizes…
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Episode 18 | Black Privilege?
In this conversation, the speakers explore the complexities of privilege, race, and social justice. They discuss how children perceive privilege, the importance of redefining terms like 'white privilege', and the role of community in addressing racism. The conversation also touches on the...
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In this conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca discuss their experiences with cults and the realization that white supremacy is a cult. They explore the stages of leaving a cult and the process of deconstructing white supremacy. They also discuss the concept of white privilege and the need for white people to deprogram from the myth of white supremacy. They highlight the importance of understanding and acknowledging racism and the role of white people in dismantling white supremacy. They also touch on the parallels between cult dynamics and societal systems. The conversation explores the importance of recognizing and dismantling white supremacy within oneself and society. It emphasizes the need for white women to actively engage in anti-racism work and challenge their own biases.
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