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Illinois Drifter Podcast
by Justin Conn
Illinois Drifter is my way of celebrating music — live shows, new records, old records, books, documentaries ... everything that makes you feel something. illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: James McMurtry and a night at the Castle
I was back at the Castle Theatre in Bloomington to see James McMurtry and the Martial Law Review on Friday, April 24. I knew McMurtry’s music going in, but I didn’t really know what to expect live.In this solo episode of the podcast, I break down the night — from the venue, to the crowd, to the opener, BettySoo, who plays a unique dual role on this tour.I love that the band has been playing with McMurtry for years, I love that the bass player’s name is Cornbread, and I love that there were stickers of Cornbread (Michael Traylor), along with guitarist Tim Holt and drummer Daren Hess.But what I loved most was an unexpected moment when McMurtry and BettySoo stepped in front of the mics to serenade an appreciative audience. I’m still in awe.⏱ Episode Timeline00:22 – Intro: solo episode & return to Castle Theatre 01:00 – Discovering James McMurtry & getting into his catalog02:45 – Castle Theatre setup, favorite standing spot & sound discussion03:30 – Crowd size, vibe & Castle comparisons05:10 – Crowd energy: engaged fans vs chatty back section06:15 – Merch stand overview (vinyl, posters, stickers)07:00 – BettySoo opening set & dual role (opener + merch)08:30 – Opening set impressions (quiet, intimate, uneven energy)09:30 – McMurtry joins opener → energy shift10:00 – Full band performance: tight, polished, album-accurate sound10:45 – McMurtry storytelling & “Black Dog and the Wandering Boy”11:30 – Emotional peak: “Blackberry Winter” front-of-stage performance12:15 – Crowd reaction & standout concert moment12:45 – Overall show takeaway: unique, organic, DIY feel13:10 – Why taking chances on unfamiliar artists pays off13:30 – Closing thoughts & recommendation🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their song “We Can Settle This at Sunrise” as the show’s theme.You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here:https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Larkin Poe, Gov't Mule and a solo night at The Factory
I was trying to think of the name of the first song I ever heard by Gov’t Mule, then they opened the show with it — complete with someone in an Uncle Sam outfit holding signs.It was the kind of moment that makes going to see live music special, and why I don’t mind going to shows alone. It had been about six months since I’d been to a show by myself— this one felt worth breaking the streak for.Larkin Poe opening for Gov’t Mule at The Factory in St. Louis is about as strong a lineup as you’re going to find, and I wasn’t missing it.It also seemed like a fitting time to introduce the first solo episode of Illinois Drifter. Here’s a look at what the episode covers:⏱ Timestamps00:16 – Intro: first solo concert in six months01:00 – Larkin Poe familiarity and recent listening02:00 – Govt Mule background and Allman Brothers connection03:30 – The Factory venue overview05:00 – Crowd behavior and standing vs sitting06:30 – Meeting a fellow concertgoer07:30 – Phone use and concert etiquette rant10:00 – Merch experience and pricing thoughts12:30 – Larkin Poe live performance breakdown15:00 – Govt Mule set: tone and highlights17:00 – 420 nod: “Don’t Step on the Grass, Sam”18:30 – Band performance and musicianship20:30 – Larkin Poe joins for “Sugaree” (highlight moment)21:30 – Encore: “Soulshine” and crowd reaction22:30 – Final thoughts on venue and crowd23:00 – Outro and upcoming shows✅ Check out👉 To find Gov’t Mule live shows, including the show from The Factory, go to nugs.net. Streaming takes a subscription, but you can buy and download shows without a subscription.👉 Are you a stander or a sitter? Check out more of my thoughts here.🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their song:* “We Can Settle This at Sunrise” (theme)You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here:Thanks for reading Illinois Drifter! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Edward David Anderson on Backyard Tire Fire, family and a lifetime in music
Singer-songwriter Edward David Anderson joins the Illinois Drifter Podcast ahead of a show at FitzGerald’s in Berwyn with Backyard Tire Fire and Steepwater Band.From his early days in Illinois to touring the country and eventually scaling back to focus on family and creative fulfillment, Anderson shares a candid look at 30 years as an independent musician.It’s a wide-ranging conversation that includes how I first discovered EDA, the origins and evolution of Backyard Tire Fire, why he never chased the traditional “music industry” path, moving to rural Wisconsin and embracing small-town life, the impact of family and fatherhood on his career, the “Let It Shine” documentary and much, much more, inclucing — of course — some Black Crowes discussion to finish.✅ Check out👉 For tickets to the Steepwater/Backyard Tire Fire show at FitzGeralds, go here: Tickets👉 You can watch the outstanding documentary on Edward David Anderson, “Let It Shine” on YouTube here:👉 For everything else EDA, including Backyard Tire Fire, go to Anderson’s website: https://www.edwarddavidanderson.com/⏱ Episode Timeline00:19 – Intro: discovering EDA at Danenberger Family Vineyards02:41 – Background on Backyard Tire Fire & musical style04:23 – Bloomington-Normal years, early band life & meeting his wife05:05 – Intro to FitzGerald’s show with Steepwater Band05:39 – Moving to Wisconsin & life in the Driftless region08:15 – Illinois roots & importance of Chicago scene09:55 – Fitzgerald’s as a key venue10:22 – Why he never fully chased Nashville/industry path12:44 – Touring life: “46 states” era14:03 – Pandemic shift & rediscovering home life15:49 – Havana, Illinois & creative inspiration (Still the River)16:15 – Let It Shine documentary & unexpected impact18:00 – Music as legacy for his daughter20:27 – Work-life balance & scaling back touring23:29 – Current lifestyle: fewer shows, more intention25:45 – Evolution from 200+ shows/year to ~30/year26:52 – Learning to play & early musical development29:32 – Growth as a songwriter over time31:49 – Industry realities & staying motivated34:37 – Challenges of the music business & mental toll36:00 – Early career break: record deal & Brother Jed38:47 – Backyard Tire Fire rise & touring years40:55 – Reuniting Backyard Tire Fire43:30 – Current lineup & band chemistry45:49 – New album (with Steve Berlin)47:18 – Recording process & what to expect49:49 – FitzGerald’s show preview & Steepwater collaboration51:47 – Solo work & Black Dirt Revival trio54:04 – Other projects (Dead band, local gigs, etc.)57:04 – Grateful Dead influence & musical evolution59:09 – Managing multiple projects & creative fulfillment01:01:16 – Closing thoughts on current phase of career01:01:47 – Outro🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their songs:“We Can Settle This at Sunrise” (theme)“Sweet Vermillion” (bumper music)You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here: https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Tim Cain on the Brooklyn Charmers and his famous Beatles list
Music writer and author Tim Cain joins the Illinois Drifter Podcast to talk about a recent Steely Dan tribute show at Danenberger Family Vineyards — the Brooklyn Charmers — and dive deep into Tim's books and his famous Beatles song rankings list, which will be the subject of his next book.Justin and Tim revisit their long history — from newsroom colleagues to shared music obsessives. We break down what was great about the Brooklyn Charmers, what wasn't, why Steely Dan rules, and how personal experience shape the way we experience music — a theme for both of us in our content.Think of Tim and Justin as the Velvet Underground of music writing: They don't necessarily have a lot of readers, but those who do read them want to start their own Substack.⏱ Episode Timeline00:16 – Intro: meeting Tim Cain & early music influence02:40 – The Mark Lewisohn Beatles book story03:27 – Bringing Tim on/relationship background03:50 – Steely Dan tribute show setup (Brooklyn Charmers)04:52 – Danenberger venue first impressions05:23 – The “dogs at the show” experience06:19 – Crowd size, vibe & Central Illinois unpredictability07:23 – The Brooklyn Charmers breakdown (Colin Paterik/Survivor connection)08:49 – How well the band recreates Steely Dan’s sound09:44 – Musicianship: guitars, sax & overall band performance10:52 – Criticism: bass too loud/too busy12:10 – Guitar work & subtle performance strengths12:41 – Setlist discussion begins (“Night by Night” opener)13:11 – Tribute band philosophy: deep cuts vs hits14:10 – Pink Floyd tribute tangent (when it doesn’t work)16:24 – First set highlights & overall performance feel18:04 – Playing Aja live & complexity of Steely Dan music19:38 – Favorite Steely Dan albums & catalog discussion20:58 – Evolution of Steely Dan’s sound over time22:31 – Jammy ending & live interpretation vs original band23:21 – Wrapping show thoughts/social media tangent24:18 – Classic rock’s staying power & generational appeal25:43 – Music in commercials & cultural recycling26:11 – Tim Cain as an author (book discussion begins)28:33 – How Can You Not Hear That & writing about music30:25 – The second book & Beatles list origin33:20 – Bands left off (Buzzcocks, Easybeats)34:11 – Beatles ranking project discussion36:19 – Ranking controversy & why lists work38:23 – Favorite Beatles songs & changing perspectives39:40 – “Hey Jude” conversation & re-evaluation42:10 – Timeline for new book42:48 – Outro📚 Tim's BooksHere are Amazon links to buy Tim Cain's books:Decatur Celebration: A History of the World's Fair of the PrairieHow Can You Not Hear That?How Can You Listen to That?✅ Check out👉 Find everything Brooklyn Charmers at brooklyncharmers.com and on Facebook.👉 For more on Danenberger Family Vineyards, including upcoming shows, go to: danenbergerfamilyvineyards.com or their Facebook page.🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their songs:“We Can Settle This at Sunrise” (theme)“Sweet Vermillion” (bumper music)You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here:https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Boone Froggett talks everything Otis
Boone Froggett of the band Otis joins the Illinois Drifter Podcast to talk about building a blues-rock band from the ground up — from small venues in Kentucky to touring across the U.S. and Europe.After first connecting at the Backroom Listening Lounge in Riverton, Illinois, Justin and Boone dive into the band’s origins, influences and evolution, along with the realities of life as an independent musician.Here's a breakdown of the episode:⏱ Episode Timeline00:23 – Intro: discovering Otis at Backroom Listening Lounge02:00 – Welcoming Boone & the Riverton venue experience02:37 – First impressions of the Backroom Listening Lounge03:30 – Boone’s musical upbringing in Kentucky05:41 – Kentucky Headhunters influence & early exposure to music06:26 – Personal connection to the Headhunters08:21 – How Otis formed from a cover band background10:28 – Naming the band (Greg Martin & Otis origin story)12:34 – Debut album honoring bluesman John Brim14:20 – Learning to arrange songs & discovering blues roots18:17 – Billy Gibbons discovers Otis21:24 – Developing identity before touring22:43 – Eyes of the Sun album & early momentum25:37 – Touring Europe vs the U.S. blues-rock scene27:07 – 2020: band changes, pandemic & cancer diagnosis30:10 – Surgery, recovery & impact on Boone’s voice32:31 – Working with the Headhunters during recovery34:16 – Thyroid cancer details & timeline35:29 – First time singing again after surgery37:20 – Decision to rebuild Otis40:01 – Finding the new lineup (Alex & Dale)42:37 – Band chemistry, improvisation & live philosophy46:59 – New music & traction of “Wicked”48:03 – How “Wicked” was created (influences & groove)51:51 – Bringing “Wicked” to the live show53:54 – Other singles & plans for a full album55:29 – Challenges of making an album as an independent band57:43 – Touring, word-of-mouth & building a fanbase59:02 – “You either love Otis or haven’t heard them”59:57 – What’s next: touring & future plans01:02:26 – Kentucky Headhunters today01:04:35 – Future idea: deep dive into Headhunters catalog01:05:16 – Outro✅ Check this out👉 For more on Otis, check out their website at theotisband.com, and on Facebook.👉 For more on the Backfroom Listening Lounge, check out their website at thebackroomlounge.com, and Facebook.👉 Go to the Kentucky Headhunters Facebook page here: facebook.com/kentuckyheadhunters/🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their songs:“We Can Settle This at Sunrise” (theme)“Sweet Vermillion” (bumper music)You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here:https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Blues rocker Eric Johanson
Blues-rock guitarist Eric Johanson joins the Illinois Drifter Podcast after a standout performance at Danenberger Family Vineyards in New Berlin, Illinois — a unique venue tucked into Central Illinois farm country that delivers a surprisingly intimate live music experience.In this conversation, Eric talks about growing up in Louisiana surrounded by music, finding his voice across genres, and how New Orleans’ deep improvisational culture shaped the way he approaches playing and songwriting.We also get into his journey after Hurricane Katrina, time spent in New Zealand, building his career back in New Orleans, and working with artists like Tab Benoit and Luther Dickinson.⏱ Episode Timeline00:22 – Intro: discovering Eric Johanson & deciding to attend the show02:03 – Welcoming Eric & first impressions of Dannenberger Family Vineyards02:33 – The unique “middle of nowhere” venue experience03:25 – Comparing indoor vs outdoor setup at Dannenberger04:14 – Growing up around music in Louisiana05:15 – Early jam sessions, recording experiments & studio exposure07:06 – Musical influences: blues, rock, metal & improvisation09:56 – Hurricane Katrina: losing everything & shifting direction12:25 – Moving to New Zealand & personal reset13:30 – Realizing what makes New Orleans’ music culture unique15:49 – Finding (or not finding) a music scene in New Zealand18:07 – Returning to New Orleans & rebuilding through live music19:50 – Forming the trio & stepping into a bandleader role21:41 – Meeting Tab Benoit through the New Orleans scene23:07 – Recording Burn It Down & first major collaboration24:48 – Touring with Tab Benoit (with Tab on drums)27:01 – Blues in My Blood with cousin Tiffany Pollock29:36 – Connecting with Luther Dickinson & recording Below Sea Level33:48 – COVID era: live streaming & Covered Tracks37:31 – Building fan connection during COVID39:53 – The Deep and the Dirty & evolving sound43:42 – Live show experience & connecting with fans46:30 – Age perception & authenticity in music49:03 – Band members & building the trio lineup52:22 – Sobriety, lifestyle & life on the road56:15 – Musicians, personality & going “full throttle”58:11 – Live album & capturing improvisation1:00:00 – What’s next: touring, new music & future plans1:01:31 – Albums vs singles & the value of “deep cuts”1:04:10 – Outro✅ Check this out👉 For more on Eric Johanson, including new merch — an awesome shirt featuring his Gibson Explorer, visit: https://www.ericjohanson.com👉 For more on Danenberger Family Vineyards, including upcoming shows, go to: https://danenbergerfamilyvineyards.com/🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their songs:“We Can Settle This at Sunrise” (theme)“Sweet Vermillion” (bumper music)You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here:https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Blackberry Smoke takes over Illinois
Justin is joined by Shawn Hillman to recap an unforgettable two-night run with Blackberry Smoke across Illinois — Champaign and Rockford — complete with killer setlists, a surprise appearance from Cheap Trick’s Rick Nielsen, and a white-knuckle drive home in a March blizzard.They break down the differences between both shows, venue vibes, standout songs, and why Blackberry Smoke continues to be one of the best live bands going.⏱️ Timestamps0:00 – Intro & weekend recap1:51 – Blackberry Smoke background5:37 – Venue breakdown (Champaign vs Rockford)8:00 – Seating experiences (rafters vs row two)11:06 – Upgraded seats & Rockford crowd14:55 – Opening act: Hippies & Cowboys19:34 – Blackberry Smoke live sound & performance20:53 – Crowd traditions & “Good One Comin’ On”22:21 – “Hey Delilah” changes23:11 – Setlist breakdown (night one vs night two)25:47 – Deep cuts & “We Got Company”27:51 – Interludes & Beatles “Come Together”29:10 – Rick Nielsen (Cheap Trick) surprise31:29 – Covers, encores & standout moments34:24 – Backstage experience36:59 – Blizzard drive home (full chaos)39:00 – Upcoming shows & Steepwater Band41:51 – Outro & plugs🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their songs:“We Can Settle This at Sunrise” (theme)“Sweet Vermillion” (bumper music)You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here:https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu💪For moreCheck out the Illinois Drifter Substack and Illinois Drifter on YouTubeFor more Shawn Hillman, check out the Ridiculous Rock Record Reviews Podcast and also the State of Amorica Podcast. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Jim Hennessy on the Toy Factory Project at the Capitol Theatre
In this episode of the Illinois Drifter Podcast, Justin talks with Jim “Jimbo” Hennessy from Annapolis, Maryland about an extraordinary night of music at the historic Capitol Theatre in Port Chester, New York, where the Toy Factory Project delivered a three-hour tribute to the music of the Marshall Tucker Band.The Toy Factory Project features an all-star lineup including Marcus King, Charlie Starr (Blackberry Smoke), Oteil Burbridge, Paul T. Riddle (original Marshall Tucker Band drummer), Josh Shilling, and standout fiddle player Billy Contreras.Justin and Jim break down the venue, the band lineup, the Marshall Tucker catalog, and why this performance felt more like a full jam-band experience than a typical tribute show.They also discuss how the internet and music communities help fans discover unique performances like this one — and how a tip from Justin led Jim to attend the show in the first place.🎵 Topics Covered* The legendary Capitol Theatre in Port Chester, NY and its Grateful Dead history* Jim’s experience traveling to shows from Annapolis and the East Coast concert circuit* Why the Marshall Tucker Band is more musically complex — and jazz-influenced — than many people realize* How the Toy Factory Project evolved over more than a decade of collaboration* The incredible stage lineup featuring Marcus King, Charlie Starr, Oteil Burbridge, and Paul T. Riddle* Why fiddle player Billy Contreras may have been the standout musician of the night* Deep jams and extended performances, including a nearly 20-minute version of “24 Hours at a Time”* The emotional crowd moment during “Can’t You See”* The recording of the show captured by taper Michael Buzio and where fans may be able to find it* The future of the Toy Factory Project and possible additional tour dates⏱ Episode Timeline00:21 – Introduction: Jim Hennessy joins the podcast01:50 – How Justin and Jim connected through the State of Amorica community02:00 – Their Ridiculous Rock Record Reviews appearance reviewing Johnny Blue Skies03:12 – Introducing the Toy Factory Project and its all-star lineup04:40 – The legendary Capitol Theatre in Port Chester, New York07:17 – Travel logistics and why the venue is worth the drive10:06 – Justin and Jim compare concert travel and upcoming Noblesville plans11:38 – Marshall Tucker Band: deeper catalog and Southern rock influence12:20 – Jim’s early exposure to Southern rock through his mother’s record collection16:52 – Marshall Tucker’s jazz influence and why Oteil Burbridge fits the project18:00 – The February 27 show at the Capitol Theatre18:20 – Stage layout and the musicians involved20:17 – The Toy Factory Project as a true jam band experience23:01 – How the project evolved over more than a decade25:34 – Touring schedules and future Toy Factory dates26:04 – Was the Marshall Tucker flute sound missing?26:30 – Billy Contreras: the standout musician of the night28:17 – First-set highlights and standout songs30:40 – “This Old Cowboy” and the band’s jazz-jam approach32:52 – Opening songs: Hillbilly Band and You Ain’t Foolin’ Me35:24 – “Blue Ridge Mountain Sky” and Marcus King’s connection to it37:29 – “In My Own Way” and standout fiddle moments38:51 – Second set begins: “24 Hours at a Time” and extended jams41:08 – Marcus King’s guitar work and the Allman Brothers influence43:46 – Paul T. Riddle and the rhythm section groove46:17 – Crowd moment during “Can’t You See”48:28 – “Take the Highway” jam and acoustic encore discussion50:38 – The show recording captured by taper Michael Buzio52:40 – How Justin tipped Jim off about the show after a Marcus King VIP performance53:26 – Music communities, friendships, and the State of Amorica group56:55 – Future Toy Factory shows and possible recordings59:19 – Closing thoughts and upcoming Black Crowes shows🙌Show linkWant to hear the show we're discussing? Here's a link.🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their songs:“We Can Settle This at Sunrise” (theme)“Sweet Vermillion” (bumper music)You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here:https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu💪For moreCheck out the Illinois Drifter Substack and Illinois Drifter on YouTube This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Joe Bonamassa in Peoria (with Shawn Hillman)
Shawn Hillman returns to the Illinois Drifter Podcast to break down Joe Bonamassa’s recent stop at the Prairie Home Alliance Theater in Peoria. We talk Bonamassa’s band, the dynamic nature of his live show, setlist surprises, venue vibes, and why the band — not just the guitar hero — is the real secret sauce.We also touch on backup singers, crowd behavior, merch finds, and what’s ahead with upcoming Blackberry Smoke shows.⏱ Episode Timeline00:00 – Intro & return of #ShawnConnery01:14 – Seeing Joe Bonamassa in Peoria & Shawn’s history with Joe02:39 – First impressions of Bonamassa & discovering the band04:50 – Prairie Home Alliance Theater: history & venue overview06:31 – Convenience of the venue & out-of-town experience09:16 – Venue attendance, Peoria crowds & drawing bigger acts10:33 – Joe Bonamassa: perception vs reality12:01 – The band as the “secret sauce”13:46 – Backup singers & why they elevate live shows14:58 – The second guitarist & on-stage dynamics15:49 – Dynamics: quiet moments & crowd engagement17:37 – Setlist highlights & new album material19:24 – Eclectic covers & blues influences in the show20:20 – “Mountain Time” & the expectations of fans21:08 – Joe’s legacy & honoring blues greats22:42 – Merch table finds & the B.B. King tribute album24:50 – Johnny Blue Skies discussion & new music talk26:13 – Upcoming Blackberry Smoke shows in Champaign & Rockford26:51 – Closing thoughts & promoting the Kent Aberle episode🎙️Be sure to check out Shawn Hillman on:State of Amorica PodcastRidiculous Rock Record Reviews Podcast🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their songs:“We Can Settle This at Sunrise” (theme)“Sweet Vermillion” (bumper music)You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here:https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Kent Aberle on Fairbury, Brit Turner and life inside Blackberry Smoke
Fairbury native Kent Aberle joins the Illinois Drifter Podcast to talk about growing up in Central Illinois, building a career in Atlanta, and stepping into the drum seat for Blackberry Smoke following the passing of founding drummer Brit Turner.We discuss honoring Turner’s legacy without trying to replace him, earning trust night after night, the uniquely loyal culture of Blackberry Smoke fans, the band’s live interludes, and what keeps a 25-year-old band moving forward.⏱ Episode Timeline00:00 – Introduction to Kent Aberle & stepping into Blackberry Smoke04:45 – Growing up in Fairbury, Illinois08:48 – From athlete to musician: sports, discipline & identity11:30 – Moving to Atlanta & adjusting to Southern life15:52 – The call to join Blackberry Smoke19:54 – Honoring Brit Turner’s legacy24:05 – The uniquely loyal Blackberry Smoke fanbase28:11 – Inside the band: chemistry, dedication & favorite songs30:51 – The joy of spontaneity & live interludes32:48 – Musical influences & early favorites36:31 – Family, roots & the role of home37:53 – The Places You’ll Drum & creative projects43:23 – Staying creative while touring45:31 – Eclectic tastes & evolving influences46:58 – Finding his place in Blackberry Smoke48:52 – Sports talk & band dynamics53:17 – Longevity, brotherhood & earning it56:31 – Upcoming shows & personal connections⭐ More on Kent AberleFrom Fairbury to Blackberry Smoke: Kent Aberle’s journey from athlete to rock drummer: https://pantagraph.com/sports/article_a3b3107c-72bd-4b0a-a1ed-8b0f231d9945.htmlHow Fairbury native Kent Aberle turned his health around — and keeps it up on the road: https://pantagraph.com/sports/article_f0fb1fdb-a4e3-4af7-93c0-bf1791eeb12d.htmlKeeping the Beat Going: Kent Aberle’s Journey with Blackberry Smoke : https://illinoisdrifter.substack.com/p/keeping-the-beat-going-kent-aberles⭐ Kent’s Photo BooksOh, The Places You’ll Drum (2024)https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/4415546827/ohthe-places-youll-drum2024-by-kentOh, The Places You’ll Drum (2025)https://www.etsy.com/listing/4443520654/ohthe-places-youll-drum-2025-by-kent🎵 Music CreditThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their songs:“We Can Settle This at Sunrise” (theme)“Sweet Vermillion” (bumper music)You can purchase their album Outside Abiquiu here:https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Chris Grove on Survivor, Eddie Money and finding his own voice
In this extended conversation, I sit down with keyboardist Chris Grove to talk about his musical roots, touring life and the road that took him from classical piano studies to Survivor and 12 years with Eddie Money.We also discuss teaching, the grind of early touring, Steepwater Band, Nomad Planets, and what it means to serve the song.⏱ Time Stamps00:00 – Intro & discovering Chris at Avenue 91203:40 – Western Pennsylvania roots & early piano lessons05:00 – First applause and “chasing the dragon”07:40 – Chicago Academy for the Performing Arts11:30 – Classical vs rock & leaving Millikin13:40 – Teaching piano & why continuity matters17:00 – Losing Eddie, COVID and returning to teaching18:45 – First touring bar band & the gutted school bus21:15 – Reinventing the band mid-tour (“The Factor”)25:00 – The Chicago band with Joel Hoekstra & Kyle Woodring27:30 – Auditioning for Survivor30:00 – First Survivor gig (corporate hangar)31:30 – Pittsburgh Regatta & 100,000+ crowd33:45 – Playing with original Survivor members36:45 – VH1 Classic Tour & meeting Eddie Money38:20 – Joining Eddie Money’s band43:00 – Eddie changing setlists mid-show46:30 – What it was like touring with Eddie49:00 – Eddie’s final shows & his passing53:00 – Playing with legends (Heart, Chicago, Styx, Sammy Hagar)57:00 – Steepwater Band & Nomad Planets1:01:20 – Philosophy: serve the song1:09:00 – The one-man show experiment1:15:20 – Closing thoughtsThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their song, "We Can Settle This at Sunrise," as the theme. You can buy it here: https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: Mike and Olivia Tasch from Sunshine Daydream
🎙 Episode Show NotesIllinois Drifter Podcast: Sunshine Daydream (with Mike & Olivia Tash)In this episode, I sit down with Mike Tasch (keys) and Olivia Tasch (vocals) of Sunshine Daydream, a Central Illinois-based Grateful Dead tribute band that’s been building something special for over a decade.We talk about:🎵 How the band formed and evolved🎵 Their connection to the Grateful Dead🎵 What it means to be a tribute band🎵 How they build setlists (and why they’re never predictable)🎵 The hardest Dead songs to play🎵 Why long-term band chemistry matters🎵 Playing the Castle Theater🎵 Their side project, Chickadee Sermon🎵 And where you can catch them next🎵 We also discuss archive.org as a resource for live recordings and revisit the legacy of Donnie’s Homespun Pizza.📅 Upcoming Shows MentionedSunshine DaydreamFriday, March 6 – Rose Bowl, Urbana, ILSaturday, March 21 – Arlington’s, Springfield, IL (with Old Shoe)Friday, March 27 – Destihl Beer Hall, Normal, IL (with Blue Sky Revival)Saturday, April 4 – Curve Inn, Springfield, ILChickadee SermonThursday, April 2 – Rose Bowl, Urbana, IL (Happy Hour Show)⏱ Episode Time Stamps00:00 – Intro & discovering Sunshine Daydream03:20 – Band formation & early history05:00 – Becoming a Grateful Dead tribute band06:40 – Tribute band stigma & philosophy07:30 – How setlists are built10:00 – Hardest Dead songs to play11:00 – Most fun songs to play13:00 – Playing fluidly & perfectionism14:15 – Key to playing the Dead well16:00 – Castle Theater show recap18:20 – Springfield home venues19:40 – Upcoming Sunshine Daydream shows22:50 – Keeping a band together long-term23:20 – “Angel from Montgomery” moment24:50 – Chickadee Sermon side project26:30 – Archive.org & Live Music Archive28:15 – Donnie’s Homespun Pizza sendoff28:50 – OutroThank you to Nomad Planets for use of their song, "We Can Settle This at Sunrise," as the theme. You can buy it here: https://nomadplanets.bandcamp.com/album/outside-abiquiu This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: JJ Grey & Mofro at the Castle Theater (with Shawn Hillman)
On this episode of the Illinois Drifter podcast, host Justin Conn is joined by concert buddy Shawn Hillman to break down JJ Grey & Mofro’s sold-out show at the Castle Theater in Bloomington.#ShawnConnery talks about:🎵 Why the Castle might be one of the best small venues in Illinois🎵 JJ opening with “Lochloosa” and why that struck a chord🎵A full 10-piece band that sounded bigger than the room🎵A look at the setlist🎵Amateur-hour crowd behavior (yes, someone made a Xena noise…)🎵And why Shawn is officially all-in on JJ Grey after seeing him live for the first timeWe also talk State of Amorica, March Madness-style Black Crowes debates, and I do a live unboxing of a JJ Grey tour poster gifted to me by Big Jim — one of the most prolific concertgoers I know.If you’ve ever wondered whether JJ Grey is worth seeing live, the answer is simple: yes.⏱ Time Stamps0:00 – Intro & setting the scene (JJ Grey at the Castle)1:05 – Introducing Shawn2:00 – The Castle Theater: why it works (and the seating gripe)5:00 – Parking, Rosie’s Pub, and Bloomington logistics6:30 – How we came to JJ Grey (first-timer perspective)9:00 – “Lochloosa” & finding your personal escape10:00 – “You’re about to go to church” moment11:00 – The band: horns, percussion, and a 10-piece setup14:00 – Sound quality & best spot in the room17:00 – “An intimate evening with JJ Grey” — expectations vs reality18:30 – Setlist talk & deep cuts21:00 – Sold-out crowd & the talking problem25:00 – Xena Warrior Princess guy & the guy who fell out26:50 – Would we see JJ Grey again?29:00 – State of Amorica updates33:15 – Big Jim story & JJ Grey poster unboxing36:10 – Outro This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter Podcast: A conversation with Nomad Planets
On this episode of the Illinois Drifter Podcast, host Justin Conn sits down with members of Nomad Planets for an in-depth conversation about their long history, creative process, and commitment to original music.Justin first discovered Nomad Planets after seeing them open for the Steepwater Band, and what began as curiosity quickly turned into a deep appreciation for a band that rewards repeat listens and defies easy categorization. In this episode, singer-guitarists Mark Mybeck and John Carpenter, along with bassist Phil Rapchak, talk about how the band formed, how their lineup evolved over decades, and how their weekly Tuesday-night studio sessions have become the backbone of their songwriting and sound.The discussion covers everything from their early recordings and albums dating back to The Indestructible Drop (2001), to fan favorites like You’re Never Lost Until You Panic, to their most recent work following COVID, including Outside Abiquiu. The band also shares insight into their organic, ego-free approach to collaboration, the importance of live performance, and what it takes to keep creating original music later in life.Justin wraps up the episode by reflecting on Nomad Planets’ unique sound and influences, previewing upcoming live shows, and teasing what’s next for the Illinois Drifter Podcast — including upcoming episodes featuring Sunshine Daydream, JJ Grey & Mofro coverage, and a special guest he expects to return often.00:00 – Introduction to the Illinois Drifter Podcast00:45 – Discovering Nomad Planets & first impressions02:00 – Band origins and early history04:10 – Lineup evolution and long-term collaboration08:55 – Adding drummer Terry Boylan10:25 – Chris Grove joins and expands the band’s sound11:45 – Defining (and not defining) the Nomad Planets sound14:20 – The Tuesday night studio ritual17:40 – Writing songs live and embracing imperfection18:55 – Albums as individual statements20:30 – Playing live, aging, and staying motivated23:00 – What’s next: new recordings and release plans24:30 – Supporting original music venues25:45 – Upcoming live shows27:45 – Host reflections on influences and sound29:15 – What’s coming up next on Illinois Drifter This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Kicking Off the Illinois Drifter Podcast at Leroy’s Hot Stuff
Illinois Drifter host Justin Conn launches the podcast edition of his long-running Substack, expanding his project celebrating live music, musicians, and the culture that surrounds them.In this debut episode, Justin is joined by Jeff Massey and Joe Winters of The Steepwater Band to discuss the first show he attended in 2026 — the band’s January 10 performance at Leroy’s Hot Stuff in Porter, Indiana. The conversation covers Steepwater’s long history with Leroy’s, favorite hometown venues, the distinctive sound of opening act Nomad Planets, the realities of live performance, new music coming in 2026, and thoughts on recent songs from The Black Crowes.Special thanks to Nomad Planets for the use of a clip from their song “We Can Settle This at Sunrise” as the Illinois Drifter podcast theme. You can purchase Nomad Planets’ music at nomadplanets.bandcamp.com.For more information on The Steepwater Band and upcoming live dates, visit steepwaterband.com.For more on Nomad Planets, including music and shows, visit nomadplanets.com.Episode Timeline (40 minutes)00:22 – Welcome to the Illinois Drifter PodcastJustin introduces the podcast, its roots as an extension of the Illinois Drifter Substack, and his goal of celebrating music through writing and audio.02:00 – Expanding Beyond WritingWhy podcasting felt like a natural next step, what Illinois Drifter has covered so far, and plans for more show reviews and interviews.02:58 – Introducing the GuestsJustin welcomes Jeff Massey and Joe Winters of The Steepwater Band as the podcast’s first guests.03:23 – First Show of 2026: Leroy’s Hot StuffSetting the scene for the January 10 show in Porter, Indiana, and Justin’s first visit to the legendary roadhouse.03:55 – Leroy’s Hot Stuff: History & VibeJeff and Joe discuss their long relationship with Leroy’s, its blues legacy, and why it remains a twice-a-year hometown stop.05:26 – Early Days at Leroy’sOpen mic nights, Sunday jams, and how Steepwater became regulars at the venue.06:50 – Other Local HauntsReggies, Austin’s Community Tavern, FitzGerald’s and the importance of hometown venues.08:21 – Coming Home After TouringWhy hometown crowds feel different after long tours, including recent European runs.08:47 – Nomad Planets: The Opening ActHow Justin discovered the band and why they made for a perfect contrast on the bill.09:24 – History with Nomad PlanetsMeeting Mark Myback, encouraging original music, and a shared DIY ethos.12:16 – Nomad Planets’ Sound & Influences80s and 90s alternative vibes, Lou Reed, R.E.M., and The Tragically Hip comparisons.13:54 – The Steepwater Band’s PerformanceEnergy in the room, no soundcheck, technical issues, and powering through live challenges.16:24 – Live Music RealitiesBreaking gear, adapting onstage, and why unpredictability is part of the experience.18:41 – Tom Keifer/Arcada Theatre StoryA cautionary tale about volume, blown PAs, and live sound disasters.20:54 – Chris Grove’s Role in SteepwaterLongtime collaboration, keyboard textures, and how he expands the band’s sound live and in the studio.23:58 – New Steepwater Album (2026)Recording with Tony Mack, piecing sessions together around touring, and excitement about playing new material live.27:14 – The Black Crowes’ New SongsThoughts on two two new Black Crowes songs, classic Crowes tones, lineup rumors, and reactions to the new video.34:16 – Wrap-Up & Final ThoughtsJustin closes out the conversation, thanks Jeff and Joe, reminisces on how he met the Steepwater guys, and looks ahead to future Illinois Drifter podcast episodes. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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Illinois Drifter is my way of celebrating music — live shows, new records, old records, books, documentaries ... everything that makes you feel something. illinoisdrifter.substack.com
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