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In Bed with the Elephant

In Bed with the Elephant is a podcast for people who crave debate and conversation and are passionate about ideas.It’s a show with grit that goes deep and wide.Each episode I interview a single guest with critical and nuanced perspectives.The aim: to enlighten, educate, edify and entertain.From politics to history to science,From cinema to music to sport.We’ll talk about books, economics, technology, climate, and the law.We’ll talk about land grabs and annexation.We’ll discuss things that matter to all of us.And things you may not have thought mattered at all.In Bed with the Elephant will transport you to distant lands and bring you back home again.On In Bed with the Elephant we want to disrupt preconceptions and challenge convention.We’ll ask big uncomfortable questions and wrestle with taboos.Satisfy your curiosity with a weekly dose of In Bed with The Elephant.A podcast that always addresses the elephant in the room.

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    David Suzuki at 90: On Canada, Climate and the Future

    2026 marks a milestone for David Suzuki. In March the renowned Canadian geneticist, academic, author and environmentalist turned 90 years old.  An iconic broadcaster, and uncompromising advocate for the sustainable future of the planet, he’s been Canada’s most charismatic and influential public intellectual on television and radio for the better part of 6 decades.   He and his family were forced to endure the hardship and humiliation of spending the Second World War in an internment camp along with tens of thousands of their fellow Japanese Canadians. Suzuki first gained prominence in the early 1960s as a hotshot Canadian-born but American trained scientist.  He eventually made the transition to become one of Canada’s most articulate and passionate science communicators. In the early 1970s he became a broadcasting superstar as the host of the CBC Radio science program Quirks and Quarks and then CBC television’s The Nature of Things which he hosted for 44 years. For decades David Suzuki has been unwavering in his commitment to speaking out about the unsustainability of the impact of human beings on the biosphere. He’s urged politicians and citizens, alike to act to preserve the earth for the generations to come . While Suzuki has been called one of the greatest Canadians in history, he’s also been pilloried and vilified by his critics who have labelled him Dr. Doom and Gloom.  An enemy of progress.  An economic saboteur dedicated to destroying the country’s lucrative logging and fossil fuel industries. Suzuki insists that the ongoing reckless development of these extractive industries imperils our collective future as a species. For a private person David Suzuki has lived a very public life. His most recent book is a memoir in which he reflects on his remarkable journey. It’s called Lessons From a Lifetime: Ninety Years of Inspiration and Activism.

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    One Year of Mark Carney: Liberal? Polite Conservative? Pragmatist? w/ Andrew Cohen

    Andrew Cohen is a journalist, author, and historian. He was a  professor of journalism at Carleton University's School of Journalism and Norman Paterson School of International Affairs. Cohen has writ His books include A Deal Undone: The Making and Breaking of the Meech Lake Accord and Trudeau's Shadow: The Life and Legacy of Pierre Elliott Trudeau. He also wrote a biography of Lester B. Pearson. He has worked as a journalist for the Ottawa Citizen, United Press International, Time, the Financial Post, Saturday Night, and The Globe and Mail. At the Globe and Mail, he was a member of the editorial board and a columnist and foreign correspondent in Washington, D.C. Cohen has won two Canadian National Newspaper Awards, three National Magazine Awards, and the Queen's Golden Jubilee Medal.

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    Report from Iran: w/ Canadian Journalist Dimitri Lascaris

    Dimitri Lascaris is a lawyer, activist, independent journalist and host of the YouTube Channel “Reason to Resist” He’s the only Canadian-based journalist who has been actively reporting from Iran since war began in February.  Lascaris spent 11 days in Iran between March 20- March 31st travelling to 7 cities across a country the size of Western Europe.  We spoke to him just after he'd left Iran, from an airport terminal in Cyprus. Dimitri Lascaris.  Since the United States and Israel launched a war on Iran in late February 2026 over 5,000 Iranians have been killed. Thousands more have been injured.   The people of Iran like people everywhere are more than numbers They are human beings with thoughts, feelings, and fears, ordinary folks with hopes, aspirations and dreams. Complex, imperfect, individuals who are mothers, sons, daughters, sisters, fathers and brothers, all with unique stories to tell.     What has been the impact of war on the people of Iran. How have they been coping?   I’m Adrian Harewood and this is In bed with the Elephant.   Journalism matters.  Particularly at a time of conflict and war. Having eyes and ears and feet on the ground to listen, to watch, to feel, to bear witness can help us to make better sense of our world. The stories that reporters bring back from the field can provide context, perspective, nuance and depth. They can help us to ask better questions and help us see the humanity of the other.    

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    PANEL: Reaction to Avi Lewis' NDP Victory

    Adrian is joined by:  Nora Loreto is a writer, organizer, podcaster and journalist. She is the author of a number of books including “Take Back the Fight: Organizing Feminism in the Digital Age (Fernwood 2020)” and “From Demonized to Organized: Building the New Union Movement” (CCPA 2013). She’s the host of Sandy And Nora Talk politics with Sandy Hudson. Judy Rebick is a writer, academic,  commentator and former TV host.  She is the former president of Canada’s leading feminist organization the National Action Committee on the Status of Women. Matt Fodor is an author and political scientist. He is the author of From Layton to Singh: The 20-Year Conflict Behind the NDP’s Deal With the Trudeau Liberals.’

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    Press Freedom on Trial in Canada w/ Justin Brake

    Ground-breaking Journalist Justin Brake sits down with Adrian to discuss the Amber Bracken case against the RCMP, and the fight for real press freedom in Canada.

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    What Trump means for Canada & The World w/ Jeet Heer

    Jeet Heer is a national affairs correspondent for the US – based  The Nation Magazine and host of the weekly  NATION podcast, The Time of Monsters. Heer has written for numerous publications, including The New Yorker, The Paris Review, Virginia Quarterly Review, The American Prospect, The Guardian, The New Republic, and The Boston Globe. He also pens the monthly column “Morbid Symptoms.” We spoke to Jeet Heer shortly before the US and Israel attacked Iran. 

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    Navigating life post-October 7th as a Jewish journalist w/ Marsha Lederman

    Globe and Mail columnist Marsha Lederman joins Adrian to discuss navigating her love for Israel, her disdain for its leader, and her horror at Israel’s destruction of Gaza.  Marsha Lederman’s first book “Kiss the Red Stairs: The Holocaust, Once Removed” was a national bestseller. “October 7th: Searching for the Humanitarian Middle” is her latest release. This episode is brought to you by our founding local partner, Perfect Books Ottawa.  You can find more from Ricochet at ricochet.media and support the show at ricochet.media/donate. 

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    Iran: the Islamic republic on the brink? w/ Amir Ahmadi Arian

    Iranian journalist Amir Ahmadi Arian sits down with Adrian to discuss the escalating horrors in Iran.   While living in Iran in the 2000s, Amir Ahmadi Arian was a regular contributor to reformist newspapers. Arian’s essays have appeared in the New York Times, The Nation, The Paris Review and the New York Review of Books. He is currently an assistant professor of creative writing at Binghamton University in upstate New York.   This episode is brought to you by our founding local partner, Perfect Books Ottawa.    You can find more from Ricochet at ricochet.media and support the show at ricochet.media/donate.

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    A 50-year fight for the climate, Canada & the future w/ Elizabeth May

    Canada’s Green Party Leader Elizabeth May joins Adrian to discuss her long history as politician and environmental activist and her views on Canada’s current climate leadership.    2026 marks 20 years since Elizabeth May became leader of Canada’s Green Party. She is the longest serving female leader of a federal party in Canada’s history. In 2011, May became the first Green Party member to be elected to the House of Commons. She remains the MP for the Saanich-Gulf Islands riding in British Columbia.   This episode is brought to you by our founding local partner, Perfect Books Ottawa.  You can find more from Ricochet at ricochet.media and support the show at ricochet.media/donate.

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    New Year's Special - Season 1 Recap

    Here are some excerpts from some of our interviews from Season 1 of In Bed with the Elephant with Adrian Harewood! Thank you for your continued support. 

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    On defunding the police w/ Sandy Hudson

    Black Lives Matter Canada founder Sandy Hudson sits down with Adrian to break down the ties between police and safety and discuss police abolition.    Sandy Hudson is a lawyer, writer, and activist. She founded Black Lives Matter Canada and co-founded the Black Legal Action Centre. She is the co-host of the podcast Sandy & Nora Talk Politics. “Defund: Black Lives, Policing, and Safety for All” is her latest book. You can find more from Ricochet at ricochet.media and support the show at ricochet.media/donate.

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    GUESTCAST: There Is a List - Episode 1: The List

    Today we're doing something a little different. We’re really excited to share the first episode of another Ricochet Podcast called There is a List. If you like In Bed with the Elephant, where we get into the big conversations, the deep dives, the stories that make you think about power and who it serves, then I think you'll really connect with this one too.  There is a List is a five-part investigative series hosted by journalist Zahra Khozema. It looks at online blacklists, specifically a website called Canary Mission, which targets students and activists who speak up for Palestinian rights.   The show explores what happens when activism collides with the internet and what that means for people's careers, reputations, and safety. It's sharp, personal, and incredibly relevant right now.   So here's episode one of There is a List. And if you like what you hear, there are four more episodes waiting for you. Just search There is a List wherever you get your podcasts or click the link here. All right, let's get into it:  What happens when speaking out for Palestine lands you on an anonymous online blacklist? Host Zahra Khozema speaks to Canadians targeted by Canary Mission – a blacklist that doxxes students, academics, and activists across North America, most of whom are women and people of colour. We hear from a Palestinian-Canadian woman whose life and career were derailed after she was profiled almost a decade ago. From death threats to lost job opportunities, her story reveals the lasting consequences of being targeted. We also meet newer victims, like a student who participated in the University of Toronto encampments and a professor denied U.S. entry after being listed. Together, their experiences raise questions about the surveillance of students and activists and the groups working to silence pro-Palestinian voices in Canada.

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    All eyes on Sudan w/ Sky News correspondent Yousra Elbagir

    Yousra Elbagir has not stopped telling the stories of Sudan and the Sudanese people. Over the last decade Elbagir has established herself as one of the most respected and celebrated foreign correspondents of her generation. The Sudanese- British Sky News Africa journalist has told riveting human centred stories across the African continent and around world, often from the frontlines of the major conflicts of our time. Most famously she has been one of the few journalists to consistently get access to Sudan, a country close to her heart.   Early on in her career Elbagir distinguished herself with the quality of her reporting.   In 2016, she was awarded the Thomson & Foreign Press Association Young Journalist Award.   Yousra Elbagir comes from a storied family of journalists. She is part of the 3rd generation of journalism practitioners.  Her older sister Neema is CNN’s Chief International Investigative correspondent. Her father, Ahmed Abdullah Elbagir, was a pioneering journalist who was the publisher of the Sudanese newspaper El Khartoum. Her mother, Ibtisam Affan, was the first female publisher in Sudan.   Yousra Elbagir was recently in Ottawa to deliver the prestigious Peter Stursberg Foreign Correspondents lecture sponsored by the School of Journalism and Communication at Carleton University.

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    Telling the truth about Ronald Reagan w/ Andrew Johnston

    Ronald Reagan hasn’t been President of the United States since the late 1980s, years before the internet was a thing. But in recent weeks the Republican and Conservative icon has become a major talking point in North American politics…at the center of an increasingly bitter trade dispute between two formerly close allies, Canada and the United States. It’s become the ultimate narrative cage fight to wrest control over Ronald Reagan’s economic legacy- Reaganomics- pitting two of the continent’s most successful and pugilistic conservative populists against each other, in a no-holds-barred public relations battle royale. US president Donald Trump and Ontario Premier Doug Ford. Trump suspended trade talks with Canada due to the Reagan imbroglio and threatened to slap an additional 15% tariff on all Canadian goods entering the US. So why all the fuss about Ronald Reagan? What was Reaganomics?  And why does Ronald Wilson Reagan still matter 20 plus years after his death nearly 40 years after he left the political stage? The cross-border controversy that erupted over former US President Ronald Reagan’s legacy stemmed from an anti-tariff ad paid for by  the Doug Ford-led Ontario government,  that ran on US tv networks during prime time.  The minute-long ad featured   Reagan speaking into a microphone and stating his opposition to the use of tariffs as part of trade policy. The clips of Reagan were taken from a national presidential radio address he delivered in 1987 at the height of a trade dispute with Japan. In it, Reagan argues against protectionist policies and champions free and fair trade. The ad drew the ire of Trump who claimed it was a big lie designed to mischaracterize Reagan’s true beliefs about tariffs and trade.  Trump insisted Reagan “loved tariffs for our country and its national security.” He said that the ad fraudulent… a dirty Canadian trick intended  to bamboozle American voters and influence US Supreme Court Justices about to judge a major federal tariff case. Since becoming president in January 2025, Donald Trump has made tariffs the centerpiece of US trade policy and sparked a trade war with Canada by levying them on Canadian goods. Evidently Trump wants  the US public to believe his views are aligned with  one of the most popular and transformative presidents, Democrat or Republican, in US history, Ronald Reagan.  So, who was the real Ronald Reagan, the B movie actor who became Great Communicator?   What did one of the most successful politicians of his generation, the man who never lost an election, the one-time New Deal Democrat who became the standard bearer of the Conservative movement, the hard-line Cold Warrior turned peacemaker who supported brutal proxy wars in Central America. The president who called Apartheid in South Africa morally wrong and yet vetoed the comprehensive Anti- Apartheid Act of 1986 which Congress had passed with bipartisan support. The self-proclaimed tax cutter who as president raised taxes nearly a dozen times to balance the books, the free-market champion who bailed out and subsidized corporations, what did this man so full of contradictions actually think?  How should we understand Ronald Reagan? And why does he continue to play such an outsized role in contemporary politics? To help us answer some of these questions about Ronald Reagan, I’m joined by Carleton University Professor of History Andrew Johnston an expert on US politics at Carleton University.  

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    On book banning: the new censorship consensus w/ Ira Wells

    Ira Wells, wants to live in a world without book bans. A world bathed in literature… with more conversation, more civic engagement, and less censorship. Ira Wells is a critic, essayist and professor of English literature at the University of Toronto. He is also the President of PEN Canada. His latest book is called On Book Banning: or How the New Censorship Consensus Trivializes Art and Undermines Democracy

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    (Re)considering Ed Broadbent in the age of fascism, AI & genocide w/ Luke Savage

    What’s the responsibility of living in the Age of AI, Fascism and Genocide?   That was the question on the table at our first live “In Bed with the Elephant event held at a beloved downtown Ottawa restaurant as part of the Press Forward Future of Independent Media Summit in early October 2025.     The session, recorded in front of an engaged audience of loyal listeners, featured a conversation with one of the bright lights of his generation, the razor sharp and dynamic Newfoundland-born writer/ journalist and podcaster Luke Savage.   The evening was an attempt to come to grips with the challenges of living in a dystopian historical moment, while seizing upon the possibilities in our midst to transform it and create a world anew.   We hope you enjoy listening to it!  

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    A physician on genocide & medical violence in Gaza w/ Dr. Yipeng Ge

    Since October 2023, the Southwestern Ontario-raised, Ottawa based primary care doctor and public health practitioner has been outspoken in his defense of the human rights of Palestinians and has condemned Israels’ actions. For this stance he himself has come attack by those who accuse of him of antisemitism. Dr. Ge has been undeterred. He has volunteered as a physician in Gaza and even joined a small fleet of ships meant to bring vital supplies to Palestinians to break Israel’s blockade of Gaza. He is a member of the Canadian Medical Coalition Against Genocide. Here’s our conversation.

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    Sudan’s war against its people w/ Nisrin Elamin

    Nisrin Elamin is a professor in the department of Anthropology and the African Studies Program at the University of Toronto. Her work investigates the connections between land, race, belonging and empire-making in Sudan and the broader Sahel region and is currently working on a book project based on 15 months of ethnographic fieldwork in central Sudan. Sudan is the site of one of the world’s great humanitarian disasters. Since war broke out in April 2023 between The Sudanese Armed Forces and The Rapid Support Forces or RSF, catastrophe has overwhelmed it. Tens of thousands of people have died. Out of Sudan’s population of 48 million, over 13 million have been displaced, making Sudan the largest internal displacement crisis on Earth. Some 30 million Sudanese are in dire need of food aid in a country that could easily feed itself and the entire region.

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    The crisis of Canadian democracy w/ Andrew Coyne

    Andrew Coyne has been one of Canada’s most formidable and free-thinking political commentators since the early 1990s. He currently writes for the Globe and Mail and is a charter member of CBC’s At Issue Panel -Canada’s most watched weekly politics panel. He has just published a new book called The Crisis of Canadian Democracy. 

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    Mark Carney’s first 100 Days: ran as a Liberal, governing like a Conservative w/ Linda McQuaig

    Linda McQuaig is an award-winning journalist, novelist, best-selling author and contributing columnist to the Toronto Star. Her most recent book is called “The Sport & Prey of Capitalists: How the Rich are Stealing Canada’s Public Wealth. It’s been over 100 days since Mark Carney and his Liberal Party won what many pundits  are calling the most consequential federal election in Canada in decades, falling just a few seats short of an outright majority. During the 36-day campaign the former central banker and Wall Street titan, presented himself as an ardent   defender of Canadian political and economic independence. Is Mark Carney living up to the expectations of the millions of Canadians who voted for his party?  Is the Oxford and Harvard trained  “Man of Destiny” meeting the moment? Is he delivering the goods? I’m Adrian Harewood and this is In Bed with the Elephant. In the days and weeks before election day, Mark Carney insisted he was a nation builder, committed to strengthening Canada’s democratic institutions, tearing down provincial trade barriers, standing up for progressive Canadian values and warding off attacks from hostile foreign actors. Since coming to office, the newly elected Carney led Liberal government has promised a multi-billion-dollar boost in military spending, tax cuts, and the fast tracking of resource and infrastructure projects. Liberal cabinet ministers have been ordered to find up to 15% in savings in their departments in advance of this fall’s budget. The idea is to reinvest the savings in housing, defence and infrastructure. But critics argue that   Carney’s proposal is nothing more than a radical austerity plan, and that the Liberal cuts   will lead to the elimination of a raft of government programs and services, the loss of tens of thousands of public sector jobs, and a rise in social inequality. They say that all this amounts to the defunding of the state and is a betrayal of the voters who supported Carney and the Liberals on April 28th.

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    Turbulence & transformation in the Middle East w/ Rex Brynen

    Rex Brynen - a renowned scholar over three decades and one of the most astute and informed  observers of the Middle East. The Summer of 2025 will be remembered as a time of transformation in the Middle East.  On June 13, 2025, Israel launched a surprise attack on military and nuclear facilities in Iran. Israel claimed the so-called pre-emptive strikes were meant to prevent Iran from building a nuclear bomb. In the ensuing 12-day war. Israeli strikes  killed over 900 Iranians. Iran’s retaliatory attacks killed 28 Israelis. On June 22, the US joined Israel’s campaign and bombed Iranian nuclear plants. The next day US President Trump announced that Israel and Iran had come to an agreement on a ceasefire which took effect on June 24th.  In addition to the 12 Day War the chaotic  political situation in Syria, and the ongoing genocide in the Gaza  are altering  the political landscape in the region.   Since mid-July in the Southern Syrian city  of Suweyda  clashes between  Druze groups and  Bedouin tribes have displaced 175,000 people and caused over 1000 deaths. On July 16 Israel bombed the Syrian Defences ministry in central Damascus along with other military sites in the capital and targets in Southern Syria claiming to protect minority  Druze communities and sending a warning message to Syrian President Ahmed Al Sharaa.  In the occupied Palestinian Territories of Gaza every day seems to bring more stories of horror and devastation. Since October 7  2023 when an Hamas led attack   killed 1200 Israelis  including over 600 civilians and 39 children, Israel has killed 60,000 Palestinians   including over 18,000 children according to the UN, displaced millions and leveled much of Gaza. The UN reports that Israeli forces have killed 1000 desperate Palestinians seeking aid since May 2025.  For the first time two Israeli human rights organizations B’Tselem and Physicians for Human Rights Israel have officially declared that Israel is committing genocide in the Gaza Strip. This follows an earlier determination in December 2024 by the respected international human rights organizations like Amnesty International  that Israel was committing genocide in real time. The Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (or IPC), a global hunger monitoring system, states in a new report that the “worst-case scenario of famine” is unfolding in Gaza. The IPC has confirmed that   at least 122 Palestinians including 83 children have died of starvation.  Even US president Donald Trump whose government, continues to provide Israel with  both moral  and material support in the form of billions of dollars worth of weapons, is acknowledging that starvation is occurring in Gaza.  

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    Inside the Civil Rights Movement & SNCC w/ Fred Anderson

    Ricochet Media Summer Fundraising Campaign: https://ricochet.media/donate/ Fred Anderson was born in Mississippi in the late 1940s. He was among the youngest full-time SNCC workers in an organization defined by its youth. He was a courageous young rebel, a teenage wunderkind, who at 15 was working as an organizer alongside such civil rights luminaries as Fannie Lou Hamer, John Lewis, Hollis Watkins, Stokely Carmichael and his mentor and future Montreal roommate Bob Moses. Anderson is a Forest Gumpian type figure, who was present for many of the seminal moments in the history of the civil rights movement. He participated in Freedom Summer, was in the room when it was announced that the three civil rights workers- Mickey Schwerner, James Chaney and Andrew Goodman- were missing, and attended the historic 1964 Democratic National Convention in Atlantic City with the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party. On Jan 6, 1966, SNCC became the first major civil rights organization to come out against the Vietnam War. The statement the group issued was bold and categorical. It did not equivocate. “We believe the United States Government has been deceptive in its claim of concern for the freedom of the Vietnamese people, just as the Government has been deceptive in claiming concern for the freedom of colored people. The United States Government has never guaranteed the freedom of oppressed citizens and is not yet truly determined to end the rule of terror and oppression within its own borders…We ask where the draft for the freedom fight in the United States is?” Towards the end of 1966 Fred Anderson left the United States to avoid being sent to fight in Vietnam. He moved  to Montreal with his friends Herman Carter and Bob Moses,  and for the next 10 years lived underground not revealing his true identity out of fear  that given his role in SNCC he’d be targeted by the FBI, apprehended and sent to prison in the US,  as he had heard had happened to other Black civil rights activists and war resisters who’d escaped to Canada. Anderson became engaged in political organizing and community life in Montreal. He attended the historic Congress of Black Writers Conference at McGill University in 1968- one of the major Black Power gatherings of the decade. During the 1969 Sir George Williams Affair, still the biggest student occupation in Canadian history in which Black, Brown and White students protested against racial discrimination in the classroom at the then Sir George Williams University now Concordia, Anderson played “a critical organizing role” behind the scenes trying to mobilize the community to support the students. He drafted petitions and wrote editorials in community newspapers.  He had close relationships with the prominent Black student leaders Anne Cools, a future Canadian Senator, and Rosie Douglas, future Prime Minister of Dominica, both of whom were jailed for their involvement in the Sir George Williams events. He was close friends with a Who’s Who of the English Canadian literary scene. Novelists Margaret Laurence  , Timothy Findlay, W.O. Mitchell and Mordecai Richler. He considered Austin Clarke, Giller Prize winning author of The Polished Hoe, his best friend. But he also counted many members of Quebec’s literati and radical political community as close confidants. He knew the Quebec independendiste firebrand Pierre Bourgault and had close relationships with Quebec poets Roland Giguere and Victor Levy- Beaulieu. He was very close with physician and Governor General Award-winning novelist Jacques Ferron, Roch Carrier-beloved author of The Hockey Sweater, acclaimed writer Dany Laferrière, and the Quebec historian and author of A People’s History of Quebec, Jacques Lacoursière. He was involved with the NBCC (the National Black Coalition of Canada)- arguably the most significant pan-Canadian Black organization in history - and later helped found the Concordia Summer Institute for community organizers.  Fred Anderson has been a lifelong change agent. His journey has taken him from the Deep South of the United States to the Far North of Canada where he has worked in Cree and Inuit communities.  Fred Anderson is a formidable builder of relationships and institutions, and a bridge between solitudes. He’s just written a memoir that documents his extraordinary life. It’s called Eyes Have Seen: From Mississippi to Montreal.  

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    Amnesty International’s Secretary General on human rights, freedom & justice w/ Agnès Callamard

    Amnesty International’s Secretary General, Agnès Callamard, has been a defender of human rights for most of her life. Her maternal grandfather fought for the French Resistance during the Second World War. Callamard was born in 1963 into a lower middle-class family in a small village in Southeastern France about 60 kilometres north of Avignon. She attended Sciences Po Grenoble for her undergraduate degree. Earned a master’s in international and African Studies at the renowned Howard University, a historically Black college in Washington DC where she was one of a handful of White Students – an experience she describes as transformative. And she received her PhD at the New School in New York City. Prior to becoming Amnesty’s Secretary General, Callamard was the UN’s Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial, Summary or Arbitrary Executions and the former Director of the Columbia University Global Freedom of Expression project. Adrian Harewood sat down with Agnès Callamard in May 2025 at the head office of Amnesty International Canada in downtown Ottawa. We spoke about, growing courage, fighting impunity investigating the murder of the Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, the current state of human rights in the world and the ability of Amnesty International to affect change.

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    GUESTCAST: The Takeover - Smoke, Fire and the Climate Pushback

    This week, we’re doing something a little different. We’ve teamed up with our friends over at Canada’s National Observer to share the first episode of their gripping new podcast, The Takeover. This series pulls back the curtain on a rising movement of politicians, think tanks and billionaires working to dismantle global climate commitments… All of this at a time when huge parts of Canada enter extreme heat warnings under record-setting temperatures and wildfires burn across the country.  In this first episode, journalist Sandra Bartlett travels to London to attend one of the biggest conservative conferences in the world. You can find The Takeover on your favourite podcast app or on Canada’s National Observer’s website. We’ll be back next week on In Bed with the Elephant with more conversations that matter. But for now, here’s episode one of The Takeover.

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    Imagining Indigenous futures and healthier relations with the Canadian state w/ Niigaan Sinclair

    Niigaan Sinclair is one of the most creative, provocative and dynamic thinkers of his generation.  As a journalist, academic and son of the late lawyer, jurist, Senator and chair of the Indian Residential Schools Truth and Reconciliation Commission, Murray Sinclair, he has spent his life and career thinking about the relationship between Indigenous peoples and the Canadian state. In his 2024 Governor General Award-winning book of non-fiction, Winipek: Visions of Canada from An Indigenous Centre, Niigaan Sinclair outlines new transformative possibilities for healthier and more productive relations between Indigenous people and Canadians. He imagines a new politics, proposes a collective immersion in Indigenous histories and philosophies, and a return to Indigenous practices in order to inform our collective way forward. Niigaan Sinclair is a professor at the University of Manitoba where he holds the Faculty of Arts professorship in Indigenous Knowledge and Aesthetics in the Department of Indigenous Studies. He is also an award-winning columnist for the Winnipeg Free Press.   

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    On John Diefenbaker: the political outsider who became Prime Minister w/ Bob Plamondon

    Bob Plamondon is an acclaimed writer and Canadian historian who thinks for too long John Diefenbaker has been unfairly maligned by his critics and hasn’t been given his due.  He’s the author of six books. including Blue Thunder: The Truth About Conservatives from Macdonald to Harper & The Shawinigan Fox: How Jean Chretien Defeated the Elites and Reshaped Canada. His latest book is called Freedom Fighter: John Diefenbaker’s Battle for Canadian Liberties and Independence.  Diefenbaker was a political maverick- a prairie populist who rose from humble beginnings to become Canada’s 13th Prime Minister.   He was a complex and at times polarizing figure who throughout his 39 years as a Member of Parliament, remained a political outsider, even within the Conservative Party he led.  Diefenbaker’s strong personality alienated some of his fellow MPs in the Tory caucus who regarded him as a lone wolf – brusque, domineering and untrusting. But Dief the Chief’s charisma captivated ordinary Canadians who were inspired by his commitment to their health and welfare, his oratorical flair, and his common touch. They saw  John Diefenbaker as a “Man of the People.”  John George Diefenbaker was born in 1895 in Neustadt, Ontario. In the southwestern region of the province. He was the grandson of German and Scottish immigrants.   When he was 8 years old, he and his family moved West where he grew up poor in the fledgling province of Saskatchewan.  John Diefenbaker served as a lieutenant in the First World War.  After graduating from the University of Saskatchewan in 1919, he became a small-town lawyer who reveled in fighting for the marginalized, downtrodden and dispossessed. He was a self-described “sworn enemy of discrimination and injustice.”  As a young man, Diefenbaker brimmed with political ambition. It took him some years to find his footing, but once he finally won an election, he never lost his riding again.    In the mid-1950s, Diefenbaker took over a fractious and moribund Conservative Party, refashioned it in his image, and transformed it into a political juggernaut, winning three consecutive federal elections, one of them in a historic landslide. John Diefenbaker provoked strong emotions. His critics accused him of being an erratic, reckless and ill-disciplined leader. They blamed him for what they regarded as a series of foreign policy blunders, including mishandling Canada’s critical relationship with the United States. They attacked him for canceling a Canadian aviation marvel - the Avro Arrow.  His supporters though hailed him as a principled visionary, praising him for giving Indigenous peoples the vote, championing the Bill of Rights -a precursor to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, instituting a more inclusive immigration policy, and boldly opposing South Africa’s readmission to the Commonwealth due to its failure to renounce its White Supremacist system of Racial Apartheid.  John Diefenbaker was a man of contradictions.  He could be petty, vindictive, unforgiving and even cruel.  But also, warm, witty, generous and magnanimous.  At this fraught moment, in which Canada is facing existential threats to its economy and political sovereignty from the sitting president of the United States, Donald Trump, John Diefenbaker provides a historical example of an idealistic, impassioned political leader who was a fierce, unrepentant Canadian nationalist, and refused to capitulate or bend the knee to American hegemony.   

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    Canada’s far right and the Canadian Anti-Hate Network w/ Evan Balgord

    The Far Right is having a moment. Some might even say it’s on the march. Seven EU member states including Croatia, the Czech Republic, Finland, Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands and Slovakia – now have far-right parties within government. The Far Right’s footprint seems to be spreading around the world. In the summer of 2024, the far right had strong showings in the European parliament elections.  Following the federal election in Germany in February 2025 the populist, Eurosceptic, anti-immigration Alternative for Germany Party or AFD is now the second largest party in the German parliament. In early June 2025 Poland’s nationalist conservative   presidential candidate Karol Nawrocki, described by commentators as being part of the radical right, surprised many by pulling off a narrow election victory. According to the authors of the book “The Great Right North,” Far Right activism is also on the rise in Canada. They point to the growth of Far-right groups like “La Meute” and “Pegida Canada” that, they claim, have attracted tens of thousands of followers across the country. Joining me now to discuss the state of the Far right and White nationalist groupings in Canada is Evan Balgord. He’s the executive director of the Canadian Anti-hate Network. 

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    The state & future of the Conservative Party w/ Sean Speer

    Sean Speer is an academic, policy analyst influencer, public commentator, and guide, described as one of the brightest intellectual lights in Canada’s Conservative firmament. During the government of Stephen Harper, he was a senior policy advisor in the Prime Minister’s Office responsible for the Finance and Treasury Board portfolio. He was Finance Minister Jim Flaherty’s Director of Policy and later worked at the Fraser Institute as Director of the Centre for Fiscal Studies. Sean Speer is currently a Senior Fellow at the University of Toronto’s Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy and an editor- at large at The Hub a Conservative-leaning news and commentary website that he helped found in 2021.

  29. 10

    Speaking truths about Gaza: rebuking the West’s complicity w/ Omar El Akkad

    Omar El Akkad is a Canadian writer and journalist who has neither ducked nor run for cover. He hasn’t averted his eyes or closed his ears or his heart to the suffering unfolding on our tv screens, tablets and smartphones in real time. Omar El Akkad was born in Cairo, Egypt in 1982. He grew up in Qatar settled in Canada as a teenager and graduated from Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario. He now lives in the the Pacific Northwest of the United States. His books include the award-winning novels American War and What Strange Paradise. Both were finalists in CBC’s Canada Reads and winners of the Pacific Northwest Booksellers Association Award and the Oregon Book Award for Fiction. His latest book is called “One Day Everyone will have always been against this” and it addresses what has been transpiring in Israel, Gaza and the Occupied Palestinian Territories since 2023 and long before…

  30. 9

    The worldwide housing crisis w/ Leilani Farha

    Leilani Farha spends much of her time thinking about ways to make housing more accessible and affordable for people everywhere. She’s a Canadian lawyer and human rights activist who for six years between 2014-2020, was the United Nations’ Special Rapporteur on Adequate Housing. In 2019 she was the subject of an award-winning documentary called Push about the unaffordability of housing worldwide and the impacts of financialization on housing security. Leilani Farha is currently the Global Director of the Shift. A human rights organization focusing on housing, finance and climate.

  31. 8

    Human Rights in the US w/ Amnesty International USA’s Executive Director Paul O’Brien

    Someone who is well versed in the current state of human rights in the US is the Irish-born Harvard-trained lawyer, Paul O’Brien. He is the executive director of Amnesty International USA – one of the world’s leading human rights organizations. I recently sat down with Paul O’Brien when he visited Canada in early May 2025. We spoke at the headquarters of Amnesty International Canada in downtown Ottawa. Here’s our conversation. In a recently released review of the first 100 days of the Trump presidency, the human rights organization, Amnesty international USA, outlines how the Trump administration is pursuing an agenda that seems bent on “eroding human rights protections, fostering fear and undermining the rule of law.” “All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.” That’s from Article One of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted on December 10th, 1948. The principal author of the landmark document was a Canadian. The New Brunswick born McGill University law professor John Peters Humphrey. Around the world, institutions and individuals dedicated to the defense and protection of human rights are facing increasing attacks. Human rights are under extreme duress in the United States.

  32. 7

    The future of the NDP after a disastrous election w/ Judy Rebick

    Judy Rebick has lived her life at the intersection of community activism and political party organizing. ` Born on August 15th 1945 on the cusp of the Baby Boom, Judy Rebick has been at the forefront of Canada’s most significant social movements for the last 60 years , whether it has been as a student activist in the 1960s , an organizer and journalist with socialist revolutionary groups in the 1970s, spokesperson for pro-choice groups and ally of abortion rights advocate Dr. Henry Morgentaler in the 1980s, president of Canada’s leading feminist organization the National Action Committee on the Status of Women and progressive commentator and tv host in the 1990s , writer and academic in the 2000s. Throughout that time, she has also been either associated with or at the centre of numerous groupings and organizations determined to reform and transform the NDP. Whether as an engaged member of the Waffle Movement, the Campaign for an Activist Party, the New Politics Initiative or the Leap Manifesto. And so given her history , there’s no better person in Canada to assess the current state of the NDP and to consider a path for its future, than her.

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    Canada’s economic future w/ Armine Yalnizyan

    Armine Yalnizyan has spent her career explaining budgets, markets and fiscal matters to generations of Canadians. She’s an economist and the Atkinson Fellow on the Future of Workers and a regular columnist to the Toronto Star. In 2023 she was awarded the Galbraith Prize in Economics. Named in honour of the esteemed Canadian economist John Kenneth Galbraith.    

  34. 5

    Our 21st century climate reality w/ John Vaillant

    John Vaillant's 2023 book Fire Weather: The Making of A Beast chronicles the gargantuan Fire that engulfed Fort McMurray, the fourth largest city in Alberta and centre of Canada’s oil industry nine years ago this May. He describes how residents, politicians, civic officials and firefighters dealt with a cataclysmic event that destroyed 2400 homes and structures, damaged thousands more, and caused over 100,000 people to flee their homes in Northern Alberta in what remains the biggest single day evacuation in the history of modern fire. John Vaillant is one of Canada’s most celebrated writers. His work has appeared in the New Yorker, The Atlantic, Outside and National Geographic. He is the award-winning author of four books including The Golden Spruce: A True Story of Myth Madness and Greed, The Tiger” A True Story of Vengeance and Survival, and a the novel Jaguar’s Children. He is the recipient of the Governor General Award, The Writer’s Trust Non-Fiction Prize, and the Windham Campbell Literature Prize 

  35. 4

    The Syrian Revolution & torture in Syrian prisons w/ Maher Arar

    In November 2024 the Syrian government of Bashar Al Assad was toppled in a revolution. The Assad family dynasty ruled over Syria with iron fists for over 50 years. Maher Arar knew the Assad regime all too well.  In late September 2002 just a year after the Al-Qaeda led September 11th  attacks on the United States  and in the midst of the so called War on Terror that followed 9/11, Maher Arar, a Syrian-born-McGill University educated engineer, was on his way home to Canada following a family trip to Tunisia.  While on a stopover at New York’s JFK Airport, Arar was detained by US authorities and held for 12 days. He was then sent secretly on a private plane to Syria through Jordan. Maher Arar would spend a harrowing 10 months and ten days in some of Syria’s most notorious prisons where he was interrogated and tortured. Following a nationwide campaign led by his wife Monia Mazigh, Arar was released from Syrian detention and returned home to Ottawa in October 2003.  A few months later the Canadian government established a “Commission of Inquiry that examined his case.”   Finally in January 2007 the Canadian government officially apologized to Maher Arar and paid him over $10 million dollars in compensation for its complicity in his detention.  Adrian Harewood spoke to Maher Arar in mid-December 2024 just weeks after the revolution that swept Syria. They discussed the political earthquake occurring in Syria, his memories of growing up during the Assad dictatorship, his time in the Syrian gulag and his hopes for the people of Syria.

  36. 3

    On the Occupied Palestinian Territories w/ UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese

    In May 2022, the Italian lawyer and academic Francesca Albanese became the first woman to assume the role of UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories. At the time she couldn’t have predicted how events in the fall of 2023, about 18 months into her tenure, would transform the lives of millions of Palestinians and Israelis, and thrust her into the global spotlight. Hamas’ deadly attack on Israel, on October 7th , 2023, killed 1200 people including over 600 civilians and 39 children. Israel’s subsequent attacks on Gaza have now killed over 50,000 people, including over 14,500 children according to UNICEF, displaced millions and flattened much of the territory. Francesca Albanese has become a polarizing global personality due to her forceful and unrelenting defense of the rights of Palestinians and her equally powerful condemnation of Israel’s protracted assault on the Palestinian people. Albanese has consistently called Israel’s actions in Gaza genocide. And has demanded that the world stop the carnage. As a UN Special Rapporteur, Francesca Albanese travels the world giving interviews, delivering speeches and filing extensive reports. Her job is high profile, stressful and comes with enormous responsibility, and considerable risk. It’s also unpaid. Francesca Albanese is effectively a devoted volunteer who enthusiastically gives of her free labour. The job of Special Rapporteur consumes her. But she thinks the sacrifice is worth it. Despite facing intense opposition from the United States, Canada, Israel, France and Germany, in April 2025 Francesca Albanese was reappointed by the UN’s Human Rights Council to a three- year term as the UN’s Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian Territories. It means she will be in the position until 2028. In November 2024 Francesca Albanese came to Canada and it is then that I had a chance to sit down with her when she paid a visit to our studio in Ottawa. What followed was a wide-ranging conversation about the plight of the Palestinian people, the horrors that the world has been witnessing in Gaza, allegations that she is anti-Semitic and her own personal journey.

  37. 2

    The past and present of Canada-US relations w/ Andrew Johnston

    Our guest today is Andrew Johnston, a professor of late 19th and 20th Century US History at Carleton University in Ottawa. He’s a specialist in imperialism and foreign relations, liberalism and pluralism in American social thought, and the history of international thought.  Donald Trump’s second presidency has already been a game changer. His brazen public statements about his desire to annex Canada and slap tariffs on imports entering the US from Canada seems to have fundamentally altered the nature of the Canada – US relationship. Transforming perhaps for all time, the way Canadians see their American neighbors and possibly transforming the way Canadians understand themselves. For most of the last century Canadians have imagined the United States as a friendly neighbour, a vital trading partner, a trusted ally. And yet in mere months the ground has shifted under Canadians’ feet. Join us for this episode of In Bed with the Elephant hosted by Adrian Harewood.  

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    The 2025 federal election in Canada w/ Stephen Maher

    Stephen Maher is an award winning columnist and investigative reporter who has written for Postmedia News, iPolitics, and Maclean’s. His most recent book is called The Prince: The Turbulent Reign of Justin Trudeau tells the story of one of the more tumultuous prime ministerial tenures in Canadian history.  In early January 2025, Canada’s federal Conservatives seemed headed for a landslide victory in the upcoming election. Polls suggested the party led by Pierre Poilievre was in the lead by as many as 20 percentage points over the incumbent Liberals. But then Canadian politics took a turn. In February, US President Donald Trump started belittling Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, calling him Governor. He then raised alarm bells by brazenly threatening Canada’s economy and its sovereignty, vowing to slap tariffs on Canadian goods entering the US market and stating his intention to annex his northern neighbour and make it the 51 st state. In March, the unpopular Trudeau, in power for 9 years, finally stepped down as Prime Minister and Liberal leader and was replaced by Mark Carney former Governor of the Bank of Canada and Bank of England. Canada is now in the middle of an election campaign and polls are now pointing towards a Liberal victory. Some suggest the Mark Carney led Grits could even win a majority. It’s a remarkable change of fortune for the once beleaguered party. Adrian Harewood sits down with Stephen to discuss the 2025 Federal Election  

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