In the National Interest
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In the National Interest is a government podcast hosted by Center for the National Interest. It has 35 episodes, with the latest published January 2026.
"In the National Interest" is a podcast that explores the intersection of foreign and defense policy, national security, and U.S. politics. It is not about world affairs, but about American interests and the realist approach needed to promote them. What actually constitutes true realism is, of course, a source of controversy. And so, the series promotes fresh debate by featuring a variety of leading experts from government, industry, journalism, and academia, many of whom may at times disagree with each other. Each episode is hosted by Jacob Heilbrunn, editor of The National Interest magazine, and published by the Center for the National Interest.
government ·en ·35 episodes
Are Trump's Venezuela Strikes in the National Interest? (w/ Greg Priddy)
A House of Dynamite (w/ Gen. Glen VanHerck)
Democracy vs. the Kremlin (w/ Shelby Magid)
Moldova's Frozen Conflict (w/ Daniel Runde)
Effectively Banning the Muslim Brotherhood (w/ Robert Silverman)
The Sorcerer's Apprentice? American Politics from Buckley to Trump (w/ Sam Tanenhaus)
Diplomacy in the Crosshairs (w/ Paul Saunders)
Trump's Tariffs and Energy Market Turmoil (w/ Tatiana Mitrova)
Rethinking American Grand Strategy (w/ Ionut Popescu)
America First, Unbound? (w/ Curt Mills)
Donald Trump’s Foreign Policy Shake-Up (w/ Antonia Ferrier)
The Fall of Syria's Assad Regime (w/ Greg Priddy)
Trump's Second-Term Blueprint (w/ Daniel McCarthy)
Trump’s Second Act (w/ Harry Kazianis)
Iran’s Ballistic Missile Attack on Israel (w/ Zalmay Khalilzad)
Harris Takes the Fight to Trump (w/ Harry Kazianis)
Who Is J.D. Vance? (w/ Harry Kazianis)
Are We in a New Cold War? (w/ Dan Negrea)
GOP Opposition to Ukraine Aid (w/ Curt Mills)
Turkey’s Elections: A Major Blow for Erdoğan? (w/ Greg Priddy)
Antonin Scalia and Today's Supreme Court (w/ James Rosen)
Terror in Moscow and Putin’s Response (w/ Paul Saunders)
Congress’s Tug-of-War Over Ukraine Aid (w/ Scott Cullinane)
The U.S.-Israel Rift Over Gaza (w/ Greg Priddy)
Joe Biden's Fiery State of the Union (w/ Harry Kazianis)
Nikki Haley’s Not-So-Super Tuesday (w/ Harry Kazianis)
Russian Energy After Two Years of War in Ukraine (w/ Tatiana Mitrova)
The Road Ahead for Donald Trump (w/ Curt Mills)
Mitch McConnell: Last of the Republican Old Guard? (w/ Harry Kazianis)
Has MAGA Seized the Republican Party? (w/ Harry Kazianis)
Global Energy and Climate Challenges (w/ Nobuo Tanaka)
Overcoming America’s Nuclear Energy Challenges (w/ John Deutch)
Why Whittaker Chambers and Richard Nixon Matter for Today’s GOP (w/ Sam Tanenhaus)
Henry Kissinger and His World (w/ Barry Gewen)
Why America Needs a National Security Software Revolution (w/ David Pearah)
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