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Innovating Out Loud
by JoAnn Garbin and Taryn Kutches
A live monthly webcast and weekly sense-making series where leaders say it ugly and build it better.Real conversations on regenerative innovation. Hosted by JoAnn Garbin and Taryn Kutches of Regenerous Labs. innovatingoutloud.substack.com
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE OCTOBER 18, 2030
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE OCTOBER 18, 2030: Host towns now get water, food, heat and funding from their data centers, three years after “yes, if” became the rule Annual report finds communities that set terms before the permit are growing. Regenerative-by-design builds were most of the capacity...
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Innovating Out Loud with Joyn Collective
A quick reminder that the live monthly webcast has moved to the Third Thursday of the month going forward. Sorry if we missed you in September, see you October 15th! One Year of Joyn: Player-Coaches AI can draft a company’s strategy in thirty minutes. Taryn Kutches and Kemi Johel have tested it,...
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Project Jupiter Is Living Up to Its Name. That's the Problem.
Last week I published the Builder Economy framework we use in the lab and asked you to run it on something real. I did the same. I ran it on one of the biggest projects in the news. Project Jupiter is a 1,400-acre AI campus going up in Santa Teresa, New Mexico, built by STACK Infrastructure for...
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What Are You Building? And What Is It Built On?
What are you building? And what is it built on?Someone ate today because of you. Maybe you also checked on a parent, fixed something in the neighborhood park, showed someone how to do something properly, or answered a stranger’s question on a forum. None of it counted. At least, it didn’t count…
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Is Our Town Better Because It’s Here?
Americans would rather live next to a nuclear reactor than a data center. Lead with Purpose - Ron Boire and I were chatting about data centers last week when he raised the point. We’re less inclined to live next to a facility whose worst day is a hum and a higher bill than one whose worst day is...
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The Cost of Being Ugly
In almost every other kind of building, the structure and the envelope dominate the budget. Walls, roof, foundation, grounds — that’s most of what you’re paying for. In a data center it’s ten to twenty percent. One industry cost guide says it outright: the mechanical and electrical systems are…
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Innovating Out Loud with Angus Fletcher
For most of Western history, calling someone an innovator was an accusation. The word was a heresy — condemned by the medieval church, whispered about Machiavelli, rehabilitated only when Francis Bacon decided the future belonged to people who did new things. Angus Fletcher, Ohio State professor...
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The Parts That Are Ours to Grow Into
Years ago a bottle of shampoo erupted in my backpack — coating everything I owned, right before I boarded a ship where I wouldn’t see a washing machine for days. I have sealed my liquids in a plastic bag every trip since. Long before TSA required it. That memory floated back to the surface this...
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Dark Adaptation
The sun always goes down faster than you expect when you’re deep in the forest. You think you have plenty of time. And then all of a sudden, the trail is grey, then the trail is just a suggestion, and then you are standing in a place you can no longer see. You reach for your flashlight or…
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Innovating Out Loud with Larry Robertson
We take a lot for granted in innovation. Chief among them: that questions are where it all starts. So this episode, Larry Robertson and I decided to poke at our own assumption and see if it held up. Larry’s an innovation advisor and the author of Great Question, a book he built by talking to more...
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What Survives 250 Years
Northern Wisconsin, 1905. A windstorm flattened whole stands of sugar maple across the Menominee reservation — millions of board feet on the ground, already starting to rot. The Menominee wanted to salvage the fallen timber and mill it themselves. The federal authority refused. Downed Indian...
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Why Your Best Idea is Stuck
Something you believe in is stuck. You can probably picture it without trying. Six, twelve, eighteen months in and still “almost there.” The room nods and nothing moves after. The champion’s gone quiet. You ask what went wrong and you get a shrug and four theories, none of which tell you what to…
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Innovating Out Loud with Jayshree Seth
Three days short of 33 years at 3M, Jayshree Seth now leads the effort to put generative AI use-cases to work in R&D — which puts her between the hype and the people who have to live with it. Her message is bracing and oddly reassuring at once: AI can accelerate every step of the climb from data…
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They Cheered the Water
It’s a warm evening in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, and you’ve brought a glass of wine out to the back deck the way you have for years. The grass, the fence, the slow blue dark coming down. And underneath all of it, something new. A hum. The kind you feel in your chest. A low, constant drone, loud...
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Data Centers: The Tower or The Wall
Between two stories sits one idea: technology is never neutral. It takes on the character of whoever designs it, builds it, and runs it. The tower and the city are built with the same stone. What changes is who decided and who participated. Connections to The Insider’s Guide to Innovation at...
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Intentional Discovery
In December 2020, I was one year into my time at Microsoft and four months into intentional discovery for my mission, creating the Data Center of the Future. Listen to the full episode to hear behind the scenes stories of what is possibly THE most important practice of innovation as a discipline....
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You Don't Need A Cheerleader
Last week I signed up for an expedition to Antarctica. I get terrible seasickness. I hate small planes. Antarctica has never appeared on any version of my bucket list. I signed up anyway. ---- Innovation culture talks constantly about the courage to change. It almost never talks about the voice...
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"This is the future. I'll Get You the Money."
We’ve all given the presentation that flopped. The content was right. We knew the material. We rehearsed. And we walked out of the room knowing — somehow — that it didn’t land. The post-mortem is honest. Nothing was wrong with the vision. The argument was sound. The slides were clean. The case…
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Serious Play is Serious Innovation
Last week on Innovating Out Loud, we sat down with Leo Chan — keynote speaker, corporate trainer, and LEGO® SERIOUS PLAY® facilitator — to take play seriously as a tool for innovation. Leo treats creativity as a muscle that atrophies without use, and play as the discipline that keeps it strong.…
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Show-iNstead of-Tell Part II: CANOPY
Two weeks ago I shared Innovation Coach — a tool that runs a question through multiple expert lenses and reframes the problem before answering it. 150 people tried it! And the feedback was clear: the reframe was something no general-purpose LLM produced. But Gemini and others gave more actionable...
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Behavior is the Barrier
Behavior is the Barrier: The Time for the Regenerative Data Center of the Future is Now For six years I’ve been inside the data center meets community problem space. I’ve had a technical and commercial blueprint in hand since my team delivered it internally at Microsoft in 2023. The design is…
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Showing Instead of Telling
Last week I kept IOL brief because I was building. I am building. Every day. Experimenting. Running things, seeing what they surface, learning from what they miss. Most of it stays inside the Lab. This week, I’m letting some of it out. What I’m sharing today isn’t a commercial product. It’s one…
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Building...Can't Talk
It’s Easter Sunday and I’m building things. Not egg baskets — products, prototypes, the kind of work where the inspiration and energy don’t pause politely for holidays. What I feel is momentum — the particular forward motion that comes when you’ve been circling an idea long enough and something...
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Hidden Returns in Your Innovation Portfolio
Most organizations are sitting on far more value than they realize—not because it’s exotic, but because it’s submerged beneath the waterline of conventional measurement. In this Innovating Out Loud session, Regenerous Labs partners JoAnn Garbin and Taryn Kutches hosted Daniel Aronson, founder of...
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The Same Old Same Old at New Speeds
Why these 3 Ds of innovation matter more now, not less. I built four profitable businesses in the first 25 years of my career. I’m on track to build four THIS YEAR with the help of two things I never had before. ---- Thank you for reading and listening. Don’t forget to register for our live…
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The Expert Who Couldn't Think Anymore
For eleven weeks now, I’ve been exploring ideas in this space — what dormancy makes possible, why factories fail at ecosystem-shaped problems, how mutualism works, what “enough” actually means. Each week, I’ve tried to say it ugly and see what emerges. But I’ve never told you why. This week, I’m...
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Grounded Innovation in an Uncertain World
ICYMI Last month, Juliana Tioanda, a senior leader in Xbox, joined Taryn and me for an hour of sharing and exploring how individuals and teams can drive innovation amid constant disruption by focusing on mindsets, “the right kind of” introspection, and what they can personally control. What’s…
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Stop Reorganizing. Start Differentiating.
Ecology has a near-ironclad law called competitive exclusion: two species occupying the same niche in the same environment cannot coexist indefinitely. One outcompetes the other — not because it’s better, but because even tiny adaptive advantages compound over time. The losing species doesn’t...
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Start With Why...no, Who...no, What
What would innovation look like if we Started With What—if present-tense introspection were treated as essential infrastructure rather than optional self-improvement? Not moments of silence and meditation at the start of design charrettes but intentional moments of noticing in real time. And…
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The Ravens and The Wolves
In Yellowstone, researchers found ravens present at wolf activity 99.7% of the time in winter—not just at kill sites, but while wolves traveled, rested, and hunted. Why? Neither needs the other to survive—but together, they’re dramatically more successful. Ravens lead wolves to food sources they...
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Minneapolis and "My 5 Miles"
Like most of us, I’m trying to wrap my head around what is happening in Minneapolis. There are so many thoughts I have that add nothing constructive to the conversation. But the reality in Minneapolis is the thing I’ve been trying to make sense of all week—writing about anything else would have...
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Innovating Out Loud Replay - The Regenerative Shift
Last week I asked: What if “enough” is what makes our systems playable? On our latest episode of the IOL webcast, Taryn and I got to explore that question with someone who’s been designing more than “enough” into physical systems for years. Sean Quinn is the Director of Regenerative Design at…
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From Picasso to Poetry
Consider two paintings by Picasso. The first: Science and Charity, painted when he was fifteen. A doctor takes a sick woman’s pulse. A nun holds a child. The scene is realistic, technically masterful, emotionally clear. You know immediately what you’re seeing and what to feel. The second: Les...
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Enough is Enough
One of the more famous quotes attributed to Einstein (which ironically is just enough of what he said, but are not actually his words) is “make things as simple as possible, but not simpler.” The aphorism was derived from Einstein’s work trying to conceive of an irreducibly simple theory of...
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Too Dumb to Know I Can't
Too Dumb to Know I Can't - Replace "I'm not creative" with this and see what shifts Read by my JoAnn-AI assistant created with ElevenLabs. This week’s writing practice started with a question: What do I want to understand more deeply right now? The answer was another question—one I get asked…
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"Done To" vs "Done With"
Happy New Year, Community! This is a new weekly practice I’m trying to build—a companion to our live monthly Innovating Out Loud recording. Every Sunday, I’ll share research and sense-making in progress. Faster synthesis. Five iterations instead of fifty. Stopping before it’s perfect, once I feel...
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Innovating Out Loud Replay - Navigating the AI Transition
Why Your AI Adoption Is Probably Stalled—And What Actually Works We just wrapped our second Innovating Out Loud session, and it was packed with takeaways and resources for everyone. Dean Carignan—my co-author on The Insider’s Guide to Innovation at Microsoft and someone leading AI transformation...
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A live monthly webcast and weekly sense-making series where leaders say it ugly and build it better.Real conversations on regenerative innovation. Hosted by JoAnn Garbin and Taryn Kutches of Regenerous Labs.
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