Never A Phase Podcast

On a special edition of Never A Phase, Your Elder Emo Mom AKA Cam is out on location with Emo Kids. This is in preparation for the Never a Phase Network being on the ground in Washington D.C. for the Warped Tour and interviewing some of your favorite bands! Join Cam as she dives into the story of Emo Kids, a cover band that evolved into a touring sensation across the US. Discover their journey, musical influences, and innovative projects like their original band (My Side of Paradise) and even an app.This show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs!Use Code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!  SWEMOwww.instagram.com/theswemoguywww.youtube.com/@theswemoguywww.tiktok.com/@theswemoguy  THE NEVER A PHASENETWORKwww.neveraphasenetwork.comwww.instagram.com/neveraphasenetworkwww.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetworkwww.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork Chapters00:00 Introduction to Emo Kids Official12:29 Formation and Evolution of the Band13:33 Repertoire and Song Selection Challenges15:54 Dynamic Setlists and Audience Engagement16:38 The Journey into Original Music19:34 Creative Process and Upcoming Releases24:01 Rapid Fire Questions26:18 Innovative Projects and Community Engagement

Join us as we explore the Monster energy soaked world of AyoDylan, a Florida artist blending pop punk with Gen Z nostalgia and cultural references. Dylan shares his unique take on music, identity, and the influence of internet culture on today's scene, all wrapped in high-energy anecdotes andhonest reflections. Dylan discusses his musical influences from Korn to Kurt Cobain and his nostalgic connection to late 90s/early 2000s rock and gives us behind-the-scenesinsights into his energetic live shows themed around wrestling and punk cultured. CHAPTERS02:22 - Dylan's aesthetic inspired by 90s pop punk andfashion choices05:40 - The story behind his song "Kurt Cobain"and themes of relatability09:13 - The state of new artists in rock and the role oflegacy acts14:42 - Navigating online criticism and the importance ofgenuine intent18:56 - The concept of poser culture and the authenticity ofliking rock music26:54 - The recording process of "Knucklehead" andenergy behind new releases37:54 - The importance of social media connection andstorytelling in modern music45:46 - The balance of authenticity and performance in theinternet age55:17 - Connecting with fans and where to find Dylan onlineand in person UseCode EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!  SWEMOwww.instagram.com/theswemoguywww.youtube.com/@theswemoguywww.tiktok.com/@theswemoguy  THE NEVER A PHASENETWORKwww.neveraphasenetwork.comwww.instagram.com/neveraphasenetworkwww.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetworkwww.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork

On today's show, Brian Venn talks about his history in the scene and what caused him to start representing bands as Jet Fuel Artistry. Brian's journey into the music industry began at a young age. He started attending concerts and festivals, which ignited his passion for music. At 15, he attended his first Warped Tour and was captivated by the energy of live performances. This early exposure laid the foundation for Brian's future endeavors in music promotion.Brian initially pursued music himself, playing in bands and attending shows. However, he quickly realized that while he enjoyed performing, his true calling lay in promoting and supporting the artists he loved. This realization led him to start Jet Fuel Artistry. Brian’s dedication to helping bands gain visibility and success in the industry has driven the growth of his business.One of the most critical aspects of music promotion is establishing strong relationships with the bands and artists you represent. Brian emphasizes the importance of being genuinely excited about the music you promote. If you are passionate about the artists' work, it will resonate with audiences and help create authentic connections.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Brian Venn and Jet Fuel Artistry04:32 The Origin Story of Jet Fuel Artistry12:35 The Journey Back to Music25:00 The Importance of Positivity in the Music Scene41:05 Building a Roster: The Journey Begins44:48 The State of the Scene: A Resurgence in Music51:04 The Role of PR in Music: Pushing Bands Forward01:01:04 Authenticity in Music: The Key to ConnectionUseCode EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!  SWEMOwww.instagram.com/theswemoguywww.youtube.com/@theswemoguywww.tiktok.com/@theswemoguy  THE NEVER A PHASENETWORKwww.neveraphasenetwork.comwww.instagram.com/neveraphasenetworkwww.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetworkwww.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork 

This week, Swemo talks to the band American Vanity. American Vanity talks bout their time as Burn The Jukebox, and burning their old image to the ground. Hear about their journey from a cover band to an original act, their approach to social media and online negativity, and their creative process for their upcoming album '17'. They share insights on genre blending, songwriting, and staying authentic in the digital age. American Vanity share their experiences navigating social media, mental health, creative processes, and musical influences. Find American Vanity @ThisIsAmericanVanity on all platforms UseCode EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!  SWEMOwww.instagram.com/theswemoguywww.youtube.com/@theswemoguywww.tiktok.com/@theswemoguy  THE NEVER A PHASENETWORKwww.neveraphasenetwork.comwww.instagram.com/neveraphasenetworkwww.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetworkwww.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork 

Amanda Wilson shares her journey of religious deconstruction, the influence of music and culture, and her upcoming studies in Scotland. This conversation explores faith, family dynamics, and the power of storytelling to foster understanding and healing.Buy Amanda's Book Here00:00 Introduction to Amanda Wilson and Her Book02:45 Exploring Themes of Faith and Music03:15 Introduction to Amanda Wilson and Her Journey06:00 The Viral Announcement and Family Dynamics08:42 Relatability and Family Reactions11:39 Celebrating Women's Achievements14:36 The Impact of Amanda's Book17:20 Exploring the Book's Themes and Characters20:19 Personal Experiences and Autobiographical Elements23:09 Confronting Religious Trauma and Purity Culture26:17 The Journey of Deconstruction29:02 The Role of Grief in Faith and Identity32:17 Navigating Expectations and Realities of Marriage35:05 Navigating Trauma and Expectations in Relationships37:35 The Struggles of Grief and Infertility40:39 Understanding Grief: A Non-Linear Journey41:01 Friendship and Shared Experiences in Grief44:02 Pop Culture and Its Influence on Faith48:33 Music as a Bridge to New Cultures53:58 Deconstructing Faith and Cultural Norms59:58 The Impact of Literature on Personal Journeys01:01:29 Pursuing Creative Writing: A New ChapterUseCode EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!  SWEMOwww.instagram.com/theswemoguywww.youtube.com/@theswemoguywww.tiktok.com/@theswemoguy  THE NEVER A PHASENETWORKwww.neveraphasenetwork.comwww.instagram.com/neveraphasenetworkwww.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetworkwww.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork

Join us for an in-depth conversation with pop punk band Turn Two as they break down their journey from the Jersey music scene to crafting their upcoming EP Never Meant to Fit. In this episode, we dive into their influences, songwriting process, and how they’re carving out a unique space in today’s emo revival movement.We explore the band’s origins, their collaborative creative process, and the real-life themes shaping their music including addiction, recovery, and personal growth.If you're into pop punk, emo revival, or discovering new indie bands pushing the genre forward, this is a must-listen.Turn Two represents the next wave of emo and pop punk, blending nostalgic influences with modern storytelling and raw authenticity. CHAPTERS00:00 – Introduction to Turn Two and Their Journey06:46 – The Formation of Turn Two14:41 – Creating Darkest Days: A Collaborative Process20:10 – Themes of Addiction and Recovery in Lyrics23:43 – The Formation of the Band (Deeper Dive)27:12 – The Impact of the Jersey Music Scene32:15 – Camaraderie and Collaboration in Music37:01 – Creating the EP Never Meant to Fit42:46 – Recording Process and Production Insights46:41 – Musical Influences and New Directions49:33 – Excitement for New Music51:49 – Exploring Musical Diversity53:36 – Lightning Round: Fun Questions57:42 – Memorable Concert Experiences01:04:17 – Where to Find Turn TwoUseCode EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!  SWEMOwww.instagram.com/theswemoguywww.youtube.com/@theswemoguywww.tiktok.com/@theswemoguy THE NEVER A PHASE NETWORKwww.neveraphasenetwork.comwww.instagram.com/neveraphasenetworkwww.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetworkwww.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetwork

IT'S THE YEAR OF THE DONUT! And the Big Donut Sponsored Band When the Sun Sets is here to talk to Swemo on the Never A Phase Podcast! In this interview, Zack Baumgartner from When the Sun Sets opens up about the band’s journey, why mental health matters in their music, and how the Chicago pop-punk scene keeps evolving. He also dives into how social media, strong community vibes, and how real, honest storytelling are helping indie bands carve out their place right now.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest02:36 The Band's Identity and Unique Merchandising06:48 The Evolution of When the Sun Sets13:39 Building Community in the Pop Punk Scene18:39 Building Connections in the Music Scene27:49 Mental Health Advocacy in Music39:32 Future Aspirations and New Music47:39 Navigating Music Distribution Challenges53:03 Lightning Round: Fun Questions and InsightsUse Code EMOTEN to save 10% on Eargasm Earplugs!  SWEMOwww.instagram.com/emoeducationwww.youtube.com/@theemoeducationwww.tiktok.com/@ryanstrikesback  THE NEVER A PHASE NETWORKwww.neveraphasenetwork.comwww.instagram.com/neveraphasenetworkwww.youtube.com/@neveraphasenetworkwww.tiktok.com/@neveraphasenetworkFrom This EpisodeHope for the Day - https://hopefortheday.org/When the Sun Sets Official Website - https://whenthesunsetsband.com

This week on the Never A Phase Podcast, Swemo talks to Ryan Dominguez from Tokyo Rose. Ryan shares the band's journey from the Jersey punk scene to their recent reunion and new music. Discover insights into their musical evolution, scene connections, and the enduring spirit of DIY punk culture.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Tokyo Rose and Reunion02:59 Band Lineup and Reunion Dynamics06:18 The Creative Process Behind New Music09:14 The Sound of 'Something Sweeter'17:36 Navigating Musical Identity as an Asian American32:11 The Jersey Music Scene: A Cultural Hub38:03 Genre Blending: The Evolution of Music in Jersey44:56 The Hiatus: Life Changes and Band Dynamics53:51 Nostalgia and Legacy: Reflecting on Past Shows58:37 The Future of Tokyo Rose: New Music and DirectionsCheck out Tokyo Rose:Tokyo Rose on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tokyorosenj/Tokyo Rose on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tokyorosenjFor more shows like this one visit NeverAPhaseNetwork.com Tokyo Rose, Jersey punk scene, reunion, new music, DIY punk, emo, pop punk, Warped Tour, scene history, musical evolution

Another edition of NAPNET Presents Deep Cuts, where we dig into the archives of your favorite NAPNET Podcasts and get another look at an episode you might have missed. In this episode of the Imperfect Dads podcast the show welcomes NAPNET's own Robb Laffoon, co-host of Emo Kids Anonymous. They explore the complexities of fatherhood, including the challenges of parenting a child with autism, the joys and trials of co-parenting, and the influence of music on their lives and identities. Rob shares personal anecdotes, including a harrowing experience with a DUI, and reflects on the lessons learned from his parenting journey. The discussion also touches on the importance of empathy in parenting and the excitement of watching children grow and develop their own interests.For this and more shows like it follow the Never A Phase Network on TikTok and Instagram and visit NeverAPhaseNetwork.com

In this episode of the Never a Phase podcast, Swemo sits down with Rob of Good Night Moon to unpack a reunion that’s been more than 20 years in the making. Born out of a tight-knit group of high school friends in Florida’s early-2000s emo and pop-punk scene, the band quickly became part of a vibrant, inclusive local movement that helped shape a generation of alternative music.Now, after a 16-year hiatus, Good Night Moon is back. They are revisiting their roots with a newly recorded EP that reimagines their original songs through a modern production lens. Rob shares what it’s like to capture the essence of youth while navigating the realities of adulthood, distance, and today’s largely virtual recording process. From tracking parts remotely to reconnecting with their hometown scene, the reunion is both nostalgic and forward-looking.The conversation dives deep into the evolution of Florida’s music community, the lasting influence of the emo and pop-punk era, and how platforms like TikTok are reshaping music discovery for a new generation. Rob also opens up about the role music plays in mental health—“Music is my medicine”—and why the phrase “It was never a phase” still resonates louder than ever.Support the Show buy using the code EMO10 at check out when you buy Eargasm EarplugsThe Never a Phase Podcast is a part of the Never A Phase Network. Follow us @NeverAPhaseNetwork on all social media and visit NeverAPhaseNetwork.com for more.

In this episode throwback episode of Emo Kids Anonymous, hosts Amanda and Robb welcome their first guest, Ryan, AKA the Swemo Guy. The conversation delves into Ryan's background in the emo scene, his influence on TikTok, and the resurgence of emo culture. They explore the connections between Taylor Swift's music and emo influences, discussing her lyrical depth and emotional resonance. The discussion also highlights The 1975, Olivia Rodrigo, MGK, Demi Lovato, Poppy and Zach Bryan, and how modern pop continues to draw from emo the scene. The discussion also touches on the legacy of emo music and its impact on contemporary artists, highlighting the importance of vulnerability and authenticity in songwriting.00:00 Introduction to Emo Kids Anonymous02:01 Ryan's Emo Journey and TikTok Influence18:44 Exploring Emo Influences in Taylor Swift's Music33:29 The 1975: An Emo Adjacent Band39:03 Wrestling and Pop Culture References44:54 Pop Punk Resurgence and Influences01:01:14 Emo's Influence on Modern Pop01:18:50 The Legacy of Emo in Music

This week Swemo hangs with Further North for a real-deal, no-filter conversation about life as a Texas Pop-Punk band bring Sad Dad Rock to the masses. We talk about how the band grew up on MXPX, Relient K, and all the melodic, heart-on-sleeve stuff that made us want to start bands in the first place. Faith comes up a lot too. Their songs wrestle with light and dark, doubt and hope, and a lot of very real personal stories. Like every band of our era, they’re figuring out how to survive in a world where TikTok clips matter more than substance and everyone feels pressure to go viral just to stay visible.Behind the scenes, it’s band life stuff most people don’t see: juggling jobs and family, and trying to grow something sustainable. This year they’re pushing for bigger moves, including four Texas dates with Geena Fontanella. HIGHLIGHTS:00:00 – Meet Further North & tour talk06:00 – Band chemistry, rehearsals, and influences12:00 – Faith, lyrics, and personal storytelling19:00 – Nostalgia, local scenes, and growing up on pop punk32:00 – Social media, content pressure, and staying authentic45:00 – Planning the future, touring, and going international55:00 – Supporting new bands & building community01:10:00 – Parenting, punk values, and lightning roundListen to Further North on Spotify This show is a part of the Never A Phase Network. For more info on ours shows and creators visit NeverAPhaseNetwork.ComThis show is brought to you by Eargasm Earplugs. Use code EMO10 to save 10%.

In this engaging conversation, Ryan Styles interviews Betty Mauritz of Gold Steps, exploring the band's journey from their beginnings in Austin, Texas, to their current success in Milwaukee. They discuss the challenges and triumphs of being a pop punk band, the influence of other bands, and the personal growth and resilience required to thrive in the music industry. Betty shares insights into their songwriting process, the impact of their music, and their plans for the future, including new releases and tours.00:00:02 Introduction and Band Origins00:00:32 Musical Influences and Style00:00:54 Challenges and Resilience00:01:02 Personal Growth and Songwriting00:01:28 Balancing Life and Music00:01:57 Future Plans and ReleasesLISTEN TO GOLD STEPSBUY EARGASM EARGLUGSGold Steps, pop punk, Milwaukee music scene, Betty Moritz, songwriting, band journey, music industry, new releases, tours

In this conversation, Swemo interviews the band My Side of Paradise, who transitioned from a cover band called Emo Kids to creating original music. They discuss their journey, the writing process, and their collaboration with Jaret Reddick from Bowling for Soup. The band reflects on the themes of their new single 'All My Exes', the impact of social media on the music industry, and the challenges of being a musician in today's world. In this engaging conversation, the members of Emo Kids discuss their unique blend of nostalgia and modern influences in the emo music scene. They explore the significance of the emo revival, the connections being made across generations, and the party atmosphere at their shows. The discussion touches on authenticity within the emo scene, the dynamics of setlists, and the reactions to deep cuts. They also share their favorite venues, the cultural significance of food like In-N-Out, and the impact of emo music on new generations. The conversation concludes with insights into their original music project, My Side of Paradise, and their aspirations for the future.

In this engaging conversation, Ryan Styles interviews the Atlanta-based band Glimmers, known for their unique Rom-Com Pop Rock sound. The band discusses their journey from solo projects to collaboration, the impact of life changes on their dynamics, and their decision to release a full-length album, The Art of Shattering coming November 7th. We delve into the complexities of the music industry, particularly focusing on the challenges faced by female artists. They discuss the impact of their song 'Jaded', the comparisons to Hayley Williams and Paramore, and the backlash they received from fans. The conversation highlights the importance of solidarity among female artists, as well as the struggles of navigating social media as a woman in the music scene. The episode concludes with a fun Q&A session, showcasing the lighter side of being in a band.Pre-Save the Art of Shattering 00:00 Introduction to Glimmers: The Band and Their Sound03:05 The Formation of Glimmers: From Solo to Band06:12 Navigating Life and Music: Challenges and Changes09:59 The Decision to Release a Full-Length Album15:34 Theater Influence: How Broadway Shapes Their Music23:01 Coming of Age: Themes in Their Music29:21 Musical Inspirations: The Roots of Their Passion32:16 The Recording Process of 'The Art of Shattering'42:25 Addressing Comparisons in the Music Scene51:43 Dealing with Backlash and Misunderstandings58:18 Collaboration and Support in the Music Community01:06:56 Rapid Fire Q&A with Glimmers