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Not Real Art
by Crewest Studio
The NOT REAL ART podcast celebrates creative culture and the artists who make it. NOT REAL ART is fresh, fun and inspiring. It contains material not suitable for pretentious art snobs. Guests include the world-class artists, designers and creatives who drive the $2T creative economy.NOT REAL ART is hosted by L.A. based art world insiders Man One and Sourdough who bring their devil-may-care attitude to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for the contemporary art world, creative culture, and everything in between.If you're an an arts professional or creative culture enthusiast, NOT REAL ART is for you!
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Michael Moore’s ‘Frankenstein’ Machines Make Waves in Artforum’s People’s Artist Contest—Here’s How to Cast Your Vote
Michael Moore was one of the first artists to hit the NOT REAL ART airwaves, and he’s just as unpredictable now as he was then. A mainstay of the Chicagoland art scene, Michael is best known for his madcap “Frankenstein” machines: kinetic assemblages built from scrap steel, blinking warning lights, and whatever vintage oddities he can scavenge, all pieced together in his garage.These days, the self-taught tinkerer and lifelong musician has a new twist in his story: He’s a finalist for the People’s Artist competition, a wild card contest backed by Johnny Depp, Artforum, and the nonprofit Art of Elysium. The prize? Twenty-five grand, a spread in Artforum, and a moment in the LA spotlight at Elysium Salon, all decided by public vote. If you’re reading this, you can tip the scales by voting for Michael here.On this episode, Michael and host Scott “Sourdough” Power talk about the evolving world of people-powered art, the highs and lows of chasing votes, and why Michael still can’t quite believe his “cremation station”—one of his signature contraptions in the running—might just be his ticket to the big time.
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Public Art, Rebooted: Carmen Zella on the Rise of Digital Urbanism
Los Angeles doesn’t do subtle, and neither does Carmen Zella. For over two decades, she’s been yanking art out of the gallery and into the city, mixing it with technology and letting it spill onto LA’s streets.Carmen leads NOW Art, an agency that fuses art, architecture, technology, and community—sometimes all at once. She also co-founded NXT Art Foundation, the nonprofit arm of NOW Art, with a mission to shake up public spaces and reimagine how we experience the city together. The goal: break art out of the museum and let it breathe in LA’s neighborhoods.She’s collaborated with artists like Refik Anadol and Nancy Baker Cahill, launched citywide experiments like Luminex and Attune, and found ways to connect artists, neighbors, and city officials who might never have crossed paths. If you’ve ever paused on a sidewalk in LA, caught off guard by a burst of color or light, chances are Carmen had a hand in it.In our conversation, Carmen talks about what’s shifting in LA’s art scene, what makes public art both a thrill and a grind, and why cities need to stop micromanaging artists.
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FotoFest at 40: Chris Wicker Unpacks Houston’s ‘Global Photo Party’—and His Own Absurdist Art
Houston might be known for its outsized personality, but every two years, during FotoFest, the city becomes a swirling epicenter of photographic art from around the globe. This year, to mark 40 years of pushing the boundaries of photography, FotoFest’s 2026 biennial, Global Visions, is bringing together a dizzying array of artists from over 58 countries. But what does it take to wrangle over 450 artists and hundreds of works into a two-month citywide celebration?Enter Chris Wicker, the unflappable exhibitions manager at FotoFest, and, as it turns out, an obsessive media-sampler, self-diagnosed denim junkie, and master of absurdist art. In this episode, Chris unpacks the coordination behind “Houston’s global photo party” and how his own art practice peels back the layers of Southern culture, NASCAR rituals, and the unstoppable flood of American consumerism.Episode CreditsHost: Scott 'Sourdough' PowerGuest: Chris WickerProduction: Crewest Studio, Los AngelesTheme Music: Ricky Pajot & Desi DeLauro of Parlor SocialSubscribe to NOT REAL ART for more creativity, culture, and chaos. Leave us a review, share the show, and remember: Make it weird, y’all!
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Embracing Your Fears as Fuel With Zinzi Gugu Johnson
What happens when you stare fear in the face and choose to laugh? Filmmaker Zinzi Gugu Johnson joins host Scott “Sourdough” Power to discuss “Fears,” her new short film that turns American anxieties into darkly humorous cinema. Don’t miss this surprisingly funny episode on embracing your fears as fuel.
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Is Pornography Not Real Art?
On today's episode, we're diving into a wild and totally unexpected topic: the intersection of art and adult entertainment, sparked by a hilarious story about our own "Not Real Art" sticker showing up in a porno scene. Yep, you heard that right! We will explore the quirky synchronicity of how our little brand made its way into a billion-dollar industry and forces the question: is pornography not real art? So grab your favorite beverage, kick back, and let's talk porno!
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From Wall Street to Art Street: Tyler Ramsey's Creative Journey
Artist and podcaster Tyler Ramsey joins us today to dive into the vibrant world of creativity and the power of choice in happiness. In this episode, we explore how Tyler transitioned from a chaotic career in Hollywood to a fulfilling life as a visual artist, emphasizing that being happy is a conscious choice we all can make, even when life throws its curveballs. We chat about his unique artistic process, from finger painting to using multimedia elements like wood and neon, and how his experiences in recovery have shaped his art and outlook on life. Expect a fun and insightful conversation filled with humor, anecdotes, and a whole lot of heart as we navigate the intersection of art, authenticity, and personal growth. Links referenced in this episode:notrealart.compainfullessons.comadoptogether.org
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From Boomers to Millennials: The Art World Shake-Up
Buckle up, folks, because today's episode of Not Real Art is a real eye-opener! Our beloved host Sourdough is back, and he’s dishing out some spicy takes on why the art market appears to be hitting a rough patch. With a blend of playful humor and serious analysis, he dives into the current state of galleries closing their doors and sales figures that are making everyone a bit jittery. What’s the deal? Sourdough proposes that we’re witnessing a fundamental shift as the baton is passed from the boomer generation to the millennials. This isn’t just a passing trend; it’s a cultural shift that’s reshaping the very fabric of the art world.As he navigates through the conversation, Sourdough highlights that millennials are not just inheriting a market built on the boomer’s dreams; they’re actively rejecting it in favor of their own creative expressions. They’re proving that you don’t need to drop stacks of cash on a piece of art to appreciate it or to have a meaningful connection with it. This generation is all about supporting local artists and finding joy in affordable pieces that resonate with their personal tastes. It’s a refreshing perspective that challenges the traditional notions of art as an elitist pursuit reserved for the wealthy.Sourdough doesn’t shy away from calling out the stagnation in the art market—he points out that the same old models are no longer serving the majority of artists or buyers. With a lack of innovation and a failure to engage younger audiences, the art world risks becoming obsolete. He urges a reevaluation of how we connect artists with buyers, especially at the entry level, where most people are still dipping their toes into the world of art. With humor and heart, this episode invites listeners to rethink their relationship with art and to embrace a future that is more inclusive, innovative, and vibrant. So grab your headphones and get ready to rethink everything you knew about the art market!Takeaways: The Not Real Art podcast is all about celebrating creative culture and fresh ideas, aimed at inspiring listeners to appreciate art beyond the traditional boundaries. We're tackling the big question of why the art market is crashing, diving into how economic cycles and political uncertainty are reshaping the landscape. Millennials are shaking things up by rejecting the expensive art market of their boomer predecessors, opting for art that resonates with them personally rather than just what’s deemed valuable. The podcast highlights a seismic demographic shift as millennials and younger generations become the new driving force in the art world, leaving behind the old models. In a world where boomers are aging out, the art market faces a fundamental transformation because millennials and Gen Z aren’t buying into the old ways of doing things. We discuss the lack of innovation in the art market over the past decades, emphasizing the importance of attracting new buyers and fresh ideas to keep the industry alive. Links referenced in this episode:notrelart.comarterial.orgCompanies mentioned in this episode: Arterial Crewest Studio Not Real Art Parlor Social Captivate
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Art World Horror Stories: From Natural Disasters to Mangled Masterpieces and Social Media Meltdowns
Dim the lights, grab a cozy blanket and a mug of cider (or a pumpkin spice latte, if you prefer), and settle in for three tales of terror from our Art World Horror Stories series.First on the chopping block is Mellyssa Diggs, a brand identity designer whose passion for social justice quickly spiraled into a nightmare of cyberbullying and social media censorship. Next, we turn to Asheville-based artist Wendy Newman. Last fall, her life was upended by Hurricane Helene, which not only obliterated her gallery but also displaced countless artists in her community. Finally, we meet painter Jacobina Oele, another Asheville artist, whose masterpiece was mangled beyond recognition at the hands of an unscrupulous gallery owner. Presented by NOT REAL ART’s parent company, Crewest Studio, Art World Horror Stories is a podcast about bad things that happen to good artists. In today’s crossover episode, we delve into the spine-chilling stories usually reserved for the spookiest podcast in Crewest’s network.How You Can Get InvolvedListen: 5 Practical Tips From 30 Years of Art World HorrorListen: Muralist Amandalynn Took a Great FallVisit the Art World Horror Stories website.Visit Mellyssa Diggs on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube.Visit Wendy Newman on Instagram, Facebook, or Pinterest.Visit Jacobina Oele on Instagram, Facebook, or YouTube.Learn more about Crewest Studio and our host, Scott “Sourdough” Power.Submit a horror story for 2026.About Art World Horror Stories and Crewest Studio Art World Horror Stories is a podcast about bad things that happen to good artists. The series is produced by Crewest Studio, an independent company specializing in entertainment media, publishing, and experiential content, serving a diverse network of professional creatives and enthusiasts. With a mission to entertain, inform, and inspire, the studio recognizes the significance of the $2 trillion creative economy and the 30 million professionals within it. At the helm are co-founders Scott "Sourdough" Power, a seasoned leader with decades of experience, and Man One, a passionate artist dedicated to the transformative power of art in society. Follow NOT REAL ARTWebsiteInstagramFacebookYouTubeThanks for listening! Subscribe, share, and support creative culture!Episode artwork: David Schwartz.
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Art21 Premieres Season 12 of ‘Art in the Twenty-First Century’ Amid Funding Cuts
On May 3, hundreds of arts organizations across the US opened their inboxes to an abrupt notice: their NEA grant applications had either been denied or rescinded. Among them, Art21, the New York nonprofit that produces the beloved public television series Art in the Twenty-First Century, lost an $85,000 grant to support the production of seasons 12 and 13.In today’s episode, host Scott "Sourdough" Power sits down with Lolita Fierro, Director of Development at Art21, to discuss the triumphant premiere of Season 12 (Oct.17), despite executive orders defunding the NEA and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting earlier this year. Together, they unpack the season’s first episode, “Between Worlds,” which features artists whose practices explore the space between the self and the other, reflect on histories of migration, borders, and displacement, incorporate knowledge across disciplines, and create human connections across difference.Together, Scott and Lolita Unpack…The upcoming premiere of Art in the Twenty-First Century, Season 12, on Oct. 17, 2025Art21’s new social-first series, IRL, focusing on artists working in both online and offline spacesThe second biannual film festival in New York, which included premieres, panel discussions, and behind-the-scenes insightsWhy Art21 is an essential educational resource that supports teachers and lifelong learnersThe challenges and rewards of securing support for nonprofit art organizationsThe concept of art as “soul food”—exploring its spiritual and philosophical significance beyond market value and investment How You Can Get Involved With Art21Watch the trailer for Season 12 of Art in the Twenty-First Century.Explore over 600 films with no paywall and global accessibility.Register to host an Art21 Screening Society screening event.Discover tools for educators.Watch Art21.live, an always-on broadcast channel featuring high-quality, hand-selected video programming on contemporary art and artists.Support Art21; donations of any size are meaningful.About Art21 and Lolita FierroArt21 is a leading nonprofit organization dedicated to expanding access to contemporary art through documentary films, educational resources, and public programs. With a mission to inspire a more creative and inclusive world, Art21 produces award-winning films that highlight groundbreaking contemporary artists. Its flagship PBS series, Art in the Twenty-First Century, along with digital shorts like "Extended Play" and "New York Close Up," engages millions of viewers worldwide. Art21 also offers free materials and professional development programs for educators and hosts community film screenings globally, making contemporary art accessible to all.Lolita Fierro, the Director of Development at Art21, plays a vital role in overseeing the organization’s annual operating budget and donor engagement strategies. Under her leadership, Art21 has launched its first gala, revitalized events programming, and strengthened its patron programs to connect supporters with artists and cultural communities. Fierro also spearheads "Art21 for Everyone," the organization’s inaugural capacity-building campaign to enhance operations and expand reach. With a background in graphic design, marketing, and art history from the University of Texas at El Paso, she previously held key roles at ArtTable and the Chinati Foundation, further enriching her expertise in fundraising and arts advocacy.WebsiteInstagramFacebookYouTubeTikTokX (Twitter)Follow NOT REAL ARTWebsiteInstagramFacebookYouTubeThanks for listening! Subscribe, share, and support creative culture!
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The Art of Polymath Hans Fjellestad: Chaos and Creativity
Throughout history, figures like Jane Goodall, Benjamin Franklin, and Leonardo da Vinci have stood out as polymaths—individuals driven by an insatiable thirst for knowledge and expertise across a multitude of fields. This week, we welcome Hans Fjellestad, a member of their esteemed ranks. A true Renaissance man, Hans's talents span music, film, and education.In our conversation, Hans walks us through his artistic evolution, starting with his classical piano background and progressing into the realm of experimental electronic compositions. Along the way, he shares stories from his experiences in documentary filmmaking, including insights from acclaimed projects such as Moog and a recent work centered on the sculptor Luis Bermudez.As Hans and Scott delve deeper into the conversation, they explore the roots of creativity, the fascinating interplay between music and language, and the chaotic beauty of performing live in front of an audience.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/hans-fjellestad
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Filming the ‘Arthouse’ Pilot
In this week’s episode, we take you behind the scenes of our recent adventure filming the pilot for Arthouse in Scott’s hometown of Chicago. From navigating the bustling urban landscape to dealing with unexpected equipment malfunctions, our journey was anything but straightforward. We even faced a COVID scare that threatened to disrupt our plans, but through teamwork and determination, we emerged victorious. The footage captured is truly stellar and a testament to our passion for this project.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/filming-arthouse-pilot
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Curator Rebekah Tolley on the Rise of the Digitalism Movement
What is Digitalism—and why is it making waves in the art world? As award-winning filmmaker and curator Rebekah Tolley writes in her recent essay “The Rise of Digitalism: A New Movement in Art,” Digitalism explores the intersection of art, culture, and technology in the digital era. Today, Rebekah joins us to unpack the emergence of Digitalism as both a cultural movement and a groundbreaking exhibition that she curated for the British Art Fair in 2024. Throughout our discussion, Rebekah emphasizes the challenges digital artists face in gaining acceptance within the traditional art world, a struggle reminiscent of photography's early days. She advocates for accessibility and community, aiming to dispel myths and foster an inclusive environment for practitioners of Digitalism. As we look forward to the 2025 Digitalism showcase (Sept. 25 - 28, Saatchi Gallery), it’s clear this movement is more than a trend; it has the potential to redefine expression within the digital realm as we enter a new digital age. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/rebekah-tolley-digitalism
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Discover AskChris.AI, The Revolutionary AI Platform Designed for Artists
In this episode, we sit down with Chris Davies, a creative strategist and the visionary behind the groundbreaking platform, AskChris.AI. Designed specifically for artists and creatives, this innovative tool acts as a personal coach, providing thoughtful advice and support around the clock. Chris shares insights from his journey in the art world, detailing how his extensive experience shaped the development of Ask Chris AI. We explore the practical ways this platform assists artists, from crafting the perfect artist statement to navigating the complexities of gallery outreach. Chris emphasizes that while AI can serve as a valuable thought partner, it doesn’t replace the human touch essential to true artistry. Instead, it empowers artists to brainstorm ideas and work through creative blocks more effectively.Our conversation highlights the importance of leveraging technology to enhance creativity and streamline processes, freeing up valuable time for artists to focus on what they love most: making art. We also explore the vital role of community and collaboration in the creative process, reminding us that, even as technology evolves, the heart of creativity remains deeply human.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/ask-chris-AI
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‘American Clown’: Guilford Adams’ Documentary Peeks Behind the Make-up
Step right up and prepare to peek behind the painted smiles, as today’s guest, professional clown Guilford Adams, reveals there's more to the profession than a big red nose. As the co-director of the feature-length documentary American Clown, Guilford joins us to discuss the film, which explores the plight of clowns in a country that increasingly views them with apprehension and disdain. Guilford traces his roots to his childhood church, where he discovered his love for magic and comedy. He recounts his evolution from a junior high clown to a professional performer, including his time with the Ronald McDonald program and how the clowning landscape has shifted over the years.Guilford discusses the challenges that clowns face today, particularly the stigma created by horror films and negative media portrayals. He reflects on how these representations affect his career and the wider clowning community, as highlighted in American Clown. Despite these hurdles, he emphasizes the resilience and creativity inherent in the clowning tradition. The conversation explores the diversity within clowning, highlighting different classifications of clowns from classic to modern specialties. Guilford underscores the importance of community among clowns, pointing out the supportive networks that exist despite the competitive nature of the industry.Guilford also shares how fatherhood has influenced his craft. As a dad to twin boys, he reveals how parenting has shaped his understanding of performance and deepened his empathy as an artist. This episode offers an insightful look into the art of clowning, illustrating how it goes beyond mere entertainment to foster connection and understanding in a complex world—themes that resonate throughout American Clown.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/american-clown
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Adventures in the Arctic: Finding ‘Paradise Creek’ With Explorer David Scott
Pack an extra warm sweater because we’re headed to the Arctic Circle with David Scott, a multifaceted artist, writer, and close friend of our host, Scott “Sourdough” Power. In today’s episode, the two pals reminisce about their daring year spent living off-grid in a simple cabin near Churchill, Manitoba. This remarkable experience is detailed in David’s new book, Paradise Creek: A True Story of Adventure and Survival, where he recounts their unforgettable true story of stepping from a bush plane onto a frozen lake and struggling to find their cabin, just three miles away, after being lost for six bitterly cold days. David reflects on how the lessons they learned during this time shaped their diverging creative paths and contributed to their personal growth.Listeners are treated to a glimpse inside their longstanding friendship, as Scott and David think back to the thrilling days of building their cabin and navigating through the frigid cold, with only the stars as their compass. They share stories of hunting moose for winter meat and the joys and hardships of living in a wilderness log cabin, all while eliciting chuckles about their initial excitement and somewhat naive optimism while gearing up for the expedition. Throughout the conversation, they delve into the various artistic endeavors that emerged from their experiences, from writing poetry to crafting furniture, emphasizing the importance of creative expression and how it intertwines with their survival story.The episode also touches on the challenges of living in isolation, the beauty of the northern lights, and the thrill of hunting and fishing in the wild. With light-hearted banter and playful humor, the duo shares anecdotes that range from hilarious to harrowing, making for an entertaining listen that highlights the resilience of the human spirit and captures the essence of their year at Paradise Creek. Paradise Creek: A True Story of Adventure and Survival is available on Amazon.com. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/paradise-creek
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My Favorite Brand
In this week’s episode, host Scott “Sourdough” Power takes us on a personal journey into the world of brand loyalty through the lens of an unexpected favorite: The Ironman Triathlon Series. While many brands offer lifestyles, the Ironman brand epitomizes dedication and grit, offering experiences that are truly earned. Straying from the typical conversation around tech gadgets or luxury items, Scott shares why this brand resonates deeply with him, symbolizing endurance, community, and growth. He reflects on his experiences as a two-time Ironman finisher, sharing the challenges, triumphs, and the dedication it takes to complete such an intense competition. This episode captures not just the physical aspects of the race, but also the emotional rewards that come from pushing one’s limits. Throughout the episode, Scott explores what it means to have a favorite brand and how real commitment reflects in experiences rather than material possessions. He encourages listeners to find their own version of an “Ironman”—a challenge that fosters personal growth and a sense of achievement.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/my-favorite-brand
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Why I'm Not Going to Burning Man This Year
In today’s episode, Scott “Sourdough” Power discusses his decision not to attend Burning Man this year—an annual pilgrimage that has long been a cornerstone of his creative life. Known for its jaw-dropping installations and rebellious artistic spirit, the festival holds a special place in Scott's heart, particularly for the cherished memories made at Camp Corny, “the friendliest fucking camp in the universe.”As he explores the reasons behind his absence, Scott balances nostalgia with the realities of life. This year, his daughter’s milestone 13th birthday coincides with the festival, forcing him to weigh family commitments against the allure of the Playa. He candidly shares the bittersweet feelings that come with stepping away from an experience woven into the fabric of his identity.Scott also reflects on the evolution of Burning Man amid the rise of social media and technology, particularly the introduction of internet service provider Starlink. He questions the impact of these changes on the festival's essence and whether they dilute the very magic that draws so many to the desert. Finally, Scot considers what it means to dance to your own beat, even when the rhythm of life pulls in different directions. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/why-im-not-going-to-burning-man
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Celebrating the Genius of American Architect Mickey Muennig
In this week’s episode, host Scott "Sourdough" Power describes his recent 20th wedding anniversary celebration at the breathtaking Post Ranch Inn in Big Sur. Nestled among nature's grandeur, this luxe getaway highlights the seamless blend of architecture and the environment, thanks to the visionary work of designer Mickey Muennig.Scott paints a vivid picture of the stunning landscapes that envelop the Inn, where each view is a testament to the beauty of eco-minded design. Muennig’s unique approach to architecture at Post Ranch Inn embraces sustainability and fosters a deeper connection with the surrounding nature. Scott reflects on how this experience enriched his understanding of creativity and its role in harmonizing human life with the natural world.The episode is a delightful journey through joy, love, and reflection, as Scott shares personal anecdotes about his time spent there with his partner. Listeners will hear about the invigorating beauty of Big Sur and the enchanting allure of Post Ranch Inn, described as a luxurious treehouse suspended in time. Scott also explores broader themes of creativity and community in the arts, encouraging listeners to support and celebrate the artists that inspire us. With a dash of humor and whimsy, he invites everyone to join him in appreciating the interplay of love, nature, creativity, and architecture—reminding us all that life’s most precious moments are meant for sharing.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/architect-mickey-muennig
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Why Your Artwork Isn’t Finished Until You Do This
Today, host Scott “Sourdough” Power addresses a dilemma that many artists face: When is an artwork truly finished? This week’s episode encourages creators to rethink their perceptions of completion and offers three essential steps every artist should take to elevate their work.First and foremost, Scott emphasizes the critical importance of copyrighting artwork. Protecting your work is paramount in an environment where art theft is all too common. Next, he discusses the necessity of capturing high-resolution images of artwork. A stunning image showcases the piece in its best light and can also serve as a valuable asset in an artist's portfolio or promotion strategy.The final step Scott explores is cataloging. While it might seem mundane, properly documenting art ensures a lasting legacy and provides clarity for future generations. This episode invites listeners to envision their artistic journey as a series of works and a narrative that deserves preservation.With a blend of insightful commentary and lighthearted banter, Scott creates a comfortable space for seasoned artists and newcomers to reflect on their creative processes. Whether it’s about safeguarding intellectual property or enjoying a few laughs along the way, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways that inspire confidence and joy in every artistic endeavor. If you’ve ever found yourself staring at a piece of art, wondering if it’s truly finished, this episode is for you. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/finishing-your-artwork
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Transform Your Space With Music and Art: DJ Constantine 'Connie’ Price Reveals the ‘Arthouse’ Soundtrack
Are you ready to transform the energy in your home? It might be simpler than you'd think. In our latest episode, we sit down with Dan Ubick, widely celebrated as DJ Constantine "Connie" Price. He explores the ways in which music shapes our environments and enriches our living spaces via the innovative Arthouse project.This unscripted television series follows everyday individuals as they interact with local artists, explore studios, and discover original artwork that resonates with them—all while keeping within their budget. As Arthouse continues its crowdfunding campaign, Dan unveils the exclusive playlists he’s curated for donors and explains how listeners can get involved to make a tangible impact. For just $30, backers will gain access to the official Arthouse music playlist titled "Chill," curated by Dan himself to boost creativity and relaxation. But that’s just the start—contributing $25 will secure a limited edition show poster, while a $30 contribution also allows you to nominate an artist or town to be featured in future Arthouse episodes. For those feeling particularly generous, higher-tier contributions open the door to exceptional experiences, such as a private piano performance by the acclaimed Steinway artist Ric'key Pageot for $2,500, or the chance to receive an Associate Producer credit and an invitation to the wrap party for a $10,000 donation. All contributions are tax-deductible and will directly support the filming of the Arthouse pilot episode, slated for this summer in Chicago. A longtime composer, producer, and record collector, Dan's insights into how music enhances the creative experience are both enlightening and refreshing. In our conversation, he also shares anecdotes from his treasure hunts in record stores, showcasing his eclectic taste and continuous quest for hidden gems that ignite his creativity. His passion highlights the importance of accessibility in the arts, as he articulates how Arthouse aims to link everyday people with local artists and original works—creating an artistic community that thrives on inclusivity.To learn more about Arthouse, support its mission, or nominate your favorite artist for future episodes, please visit Arthouse on Indiegogo. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/dan-ubick-arthouse-playlist
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Attune Media Labs: Solving the Loneliness Epidemic With CEO David Bosnak
It’s no secret; there is an epidemic of loneliness in the United States. In recent years, about one in two Americans reported experiencing loneliness. Today, we welcome David Bosnak, the CEO of Attune Media Labs, an organization that combats loneliness and anxiety with empathetic AI companions that enhance human connections through state-of-the-art technology. David began his career as an electrical engineering undergraduate with a passion for storytelling, eventually moving to Los Angeles to pursue acting and writing. Blending his engineering background with his storytelling skills, David launched Attune Media Labs, where he now focuses on leveraging the power of emerging technologies. In an era of disconnection, David’s work emphasizes technology’s potential for positive social impact while tackling the challenges of building ethical boundaries in AI development, especially within the creative fields and copyright considerations. In today’s conversation, David shares insights from his recent book, AI for Your Real Life, a practical guide empowering readers to harness generative AI tools like ChatGPT in their everyday lives. In the book, David suggests that AI should be viewed as a tool that enhances creativity and problem-solving rather than a replacement for human ingenuity. He underscores the necessity of ongoing dialogue about AI ethics, particularly as technology continues to evolve and influence various industries. Our conversation is packed with insights, laughter, and a few puns—because, let’s face it, who doesn’t love a good dad joke to ease their anxiety?Listeners interested in receiving a free month's trial of Attune Media Labs’ emotional support companion, MiM, should email David here using “NOT REAL ART” for the subject line. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/attune-media-labs
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Fostering a Creative Economy: The Mission Behind NOT REAL ART and Fiscal Sponsor Arterial
In this month’s auditorial episode, we dive into some exciting discussions around fiscal sponsorship and how it can really benefit artists. But we don’t just stop there; we also explore the deeper connection between NOT REAL ART and its parent nonprofit, Arterial, when it comes to the role of art in our culture. Host and Arterial founder Scott shares some personal anecdotes and reflects on how the podcast and his own artistic journey have evolved over time. He emphasizes how crucial it is for artists to have sustainable ways to thrive, without getting bogged down by commercial pressures. This isn’t just about making a living; it's about creating a space where creativity can grow freely. Listeners, we encourage you to see yourselves as more than just consumers of art. You’re part of a community that plays a vital role in supporting and promoting artistic expression. Whether through sharing your thoughts, attending events, or even spreading the word about the importance of creativity, everyone can contribute to fostering a richer artistic ecosystem. Links Mentioned in This Episode ArterialArtsvilleUSAFirst Friday ExhibitionsNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastNOT REAL ART SchoolRemote Video SeriesScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/fiscal-sponsorship-arterial
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Mono Arts Council Executive Director Kristin Reese Champions Arts Education for Children
This week on the podcast, we’re joined by Kristin Reese, the executive director of the Mono Arts Council. Kristin shares her journey and dedication to promoting creativity in the Eastern Sierra region of California. In our conversation, she outlines the Mono Arts Council’s evolution, emphasizing its shift toward arts education. Kristin believes that every child in Mono County should have access to the arts, and she discusses the numerous initiatives aimed at making that happen. Having grown up in the Eastern Sierra, Kristin developed a passion for the performing arts early on, influenced by her family of artists, musicians, and dancers. After earning her Bachelor of Arts in music from Sonoma State University, she felt the pull to return to her roots. Once back, she co-founded the Sierra Classic Theatre in 1999 and later worked at the Edisto Gallery & Tea Room, where she connected with local artists. Now at the helm of the Mono Arts Council, Kristin is committed to ensuring arts education is a priority for all K-12 students in the region. She highlights the positive impact of arts education on students, noting how it can improve test scores and attendance while also supporting mental health and social-emotional learning. The Council also runs several adult programs, like Art & Wine and the MAC Gallery & Community Arts Center, creating platforms for local artists to showcase their work. With her background in music and a deep love for the arts, Kristin aims to strengthen connections within the local arts community and inspire the next generation of creators.Links mentioned in this episode: ArterialArtsvilleUSAFirst Friday ExhibitionsMono Arts CouncilMono Arts Council on FacebookMono Arts Council on InstagramNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastRemote Video SeriesScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/mono-arts-council-kristin-reese/
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Essential Strategies for Aspiring Writers: A Conversation With Entertainment Attorney Paul Miloknay
Ever wondered what it takes to break into Hollywood as a writer? In today’s episode, NOT REAL ART host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Paul Miloknay, a former attorney turned author, to chat about his new book, Welcome to Hollywood: A Survival Guide for Aspiring Writers.In their discussion, Paul shares his journey from the courtroom to crafting a comprehensive guide specifically designed for novice writers. He emphasizes the challenges that come with trying to make it in Hollywood and highlights the critical importance of understanding the legal aspects of creative work. Among the key topics discussed are the value of building trustworthy relationships, the need to protect your intellectual property, and why every collaboration should involve clear written agreements.The conversation also digs into the current landscape of the entertainment industry, especially how recent economic shifts and labor strikes have reshaped opportunities for writers. Paul not only shares insights but also offers practical strategies for navigating these complexities. He reiterates that while talent is important, success in Hollywood often hinges on informed planning and relentless perseverance. Listeners gain actionable tips and a clearer understanding of what it really takes to thrive in the competitive world of writing. Whether you're a budding writer or just curious about the industry, this episode is packed with valuable advice and real-world examples to help you on your journey.Links mentioned in today’s episode:ArterialArtsvilleUSAFirst Friday ExhibitionsKatie Love: Two Tickets to ParadiseNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastPaul Miloknay on FacebookPaul Miloknay on InstagramPaul Miloknay on LinkedInPaul Miloknay: Welcome to HollywoodRemote Video SeriesScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/paul-miloknay
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Life After Layoff: Voiceover Artist Carmen Acosta Finds Purpose in a New Creative Chapter
Is there life after layoff? Today, former creative director Carmen Acosta, aka Jane Dope, joins us to talk about resilience, the lessons she learned during her recent career transition, and how she found renewed passion in creative pursuits after leaving her corporate job. As the former creative director at Sofi Stadium, Carmen played a key role in shaping the stadium’s brand identity with her innovative ideas. From her debut group show in Los Angeles in 2008 to curating over 25 art exhibitions in various locations, Carmen’s story is one of purpose and dedication. In this episode, we dive into her unique experiences and her commitment to uplifting local artists while navigating the challenges of the entertainment industry. Carmen opens up about a major turning point in her career—her transition into voiceover work after a layoff—and shares her excitement about exploring this new avenue of artistic expression. We also touch on the idea of resilience—Carmen shares some personal and professional challenges she’s faced while adapting to change. Her journey is a powerful reminder to stay flexible and embrace new opportunities. Whether you’re an artist, an art lover, or just someone who enjoys a good story, this episode is packed with advice for navigating the ever-changing art ecosystem.Links mentioned in this episode:ArterialArtsvilleUSACarmen Acosta WebsiteFirst Friday ExhibitionsNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastRemote Video SeriesFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/carmen-acosta
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How Burning Man’s Katie Hazard Chooses the Art at Black Rock City
Right now, over 400 artists are preparing to unveil their avant-garde installations at Burning Man 2024. Staged annually at Black Rock City in the Nevada desert, the festival is a huge undertaking and massive success, thanks in no small part to Katie Hazard, the festival’s longtime associate director of art management. In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Katie to discuss her decade-long career managing the art at Burning Man—quite possibly the coolest job in the world. For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/burning-man-katie-hazard
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Author Steve Grody: A Visual History of LA Graffiti
When Steve Grody first noticed spray-painted murals popping up around Los Angeles in the ’80s, he swooned over their daring colors and stylized calligraphy. Since then, he’s dedicated himself to understanding and cataloging the evolving graffiti scene in LA. His book, Graffiti L.A.: Steet Styles and Art (2007), is a comprehensive visual history of LA street art and an in-depth exploration of artists' styles and techniques. In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Steve Grody to discuss the author’s role as a documentarian and cultural storyteller.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/steve-grody
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The Artist’s Guide to Packing for Business Travel
Whether you’re a painter, potter, or candlestick maker, efficient packing is crucial for a successful business trip. In today’s podcast episode, frequent traveler and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power shares his packing tips for fuss-free business travel. From choosing the right luggage to packing light, this episode has everything artists need to transform their mindsets toward business travel. Whether packing for a quick overnight trip or a week-long conference, artists and creative entrepreneurs will learn practical strategies that turn chaos into confidence. Before your next trip, tune in for a punchy conversation on the fine art of packing for business travel.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/packing-for-business-travel
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Balcones Distilling: The Art of Crafting American Whiskey
Whiskey is more than just a drink; in fact, the word “whiskey” derives from the Gaelic phrase uisge beatha, meaning “water of life.” In today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Jared Himstedt and Gabe RiCharde of Balcones Distilling to discuss the duo’s philosophy on crafting fine whiskey in Waco, Texas. Key Points From This Episode:What “Balcones” means and how it’s relevant to Texas and Balcones DistillingChallenges that come with high standards and keeping a business localHow Jared and Gabe use raw ingredients as tools for artistic expressionWhere Balcones falls on the spectrum between tradition, rebellion, and innovationThe significance of Texas to Balcones Distilling and the American Single Malt MovementProduct development at Balcones and their sometimes surprising sources of inspirationWhy artists shouldn’t rely on critical acclaim, external validation, or market feedbackInsight into Gabe’s journey from geologist to spirits manager at BalconesJared’s deeply personal path from ceramicist and social worker to whiskey distillerWhy Balcones works with artists to support the visual artsFor more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/balcones-distilling
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Diarra Bousso: From Wall Street to Sustainable Fashion Design
Not everyone would leave behind a cushy career on Wall Street to pursue their creative pipe dreams. Then again, not everyone is Diarra Bousso. Today, the Senegal-born, Silicon Valley-based entrepreneur joins us to discuss her remarkable journey from financial trader to founder of DIARRABLU, a sustainable, size-inclusive fashion and lifestyle brand. Using algorithmic design and crowdsourcing to reduce waste, DIARRABLU fuses technology with traditional craftsmanship to promote ethical consumption within the fashion industry. For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/diarra-bousso
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Asheville: The Capital of American Craft
It's the height of summer in North America, making it the perfect time for a getaway. If you're planning a trip, consider this episode your friendly travel guide! Scott “Sourdough” Power recently embarked on an inspiring journey to Asheville, North Carolina, which we at Not Real Art proudly call the Capital of American Craft. Whether you're an artist, an art lover, or simply a curious explorer, you'll be captivated by the pristine natural beauty and the impressive array of contemporary American art and craft in this region. In today's episode, we offer a sneak peek into what makes this part of the country so unique. You'll learn what to expect when you visit, gain insight into the history of craft-making in the area, and find out who to contact to learn more about the artists and artisans that make it so special. For more information, you can also tune into the Artsville USA Podcast to celebrate the vibrant contemporary arts and crafts scene from Asheville and beyond!Key Points From This Episode:The valuable partnerships that made the Artsville USA Podcast possible.Natural and manmade beauty you can expect in Asheville, North Carolina.Insight into the history and provenance of art and craft-making in the area.Why we suggest you visit Asheville (and who we recommend to show you around!)Challenges that the region is facing and how your support can help.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/asheville-capital-of-american-craft
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Announcing the 2024 NOT REAL ART Grant Recipients
Submissions for the 2024 NOT REAL ART grant have come to a close, marking the end of a rigorous and methodical selection process by our esteemed panel of judges. With six $2,000 grants at stake and over 1,200 incredible applicants to choose from, the journey has been long and challenging, but the wait is finally over. Today is the day that we announce our 2024 grant recipients! Tune in as we reveal the six amazing artists who will receive not only a tidy financial reward but also substantial PR and marketing support to propel their careers forward. For further details, check out the NOT REAL ART blog where we'll publish the results. A sincere thank you to all the artists who shared their exceptional work with us!Key Points From This Episode:Why methodically evaluating each applicant is a job we take very seriously.The four criteria that we score each application on. A special shout-out for our panel of esteemed judges.What grant recipients receive, including financial and promotional support.Without further ado: introducing our six 2024 Not Real Art Grant recipients!For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/2024-not-real-art-grant-recipients
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Samuel Douek of Thunderflix: Netflix for Metalheads
While struggling to watch a concert by one of his favorite metal bands online, Samuel Douek realized there was a gap that needed to be filled. Thus, Thunderflix was born, the world's first on-demand video streaming service dedicated exclusively to heavy metal music and its ardent fans. Samuel built his career as the founder and director of the Hola Mexico Film Festival and a former film distributor. In this episode, he joins us to tell the story of Thunderflix, a place where metalheads like himself can access new releases, live performances, documentaries, behind-the-scenes footage, and official content from their favorite artists. You’ll learn what goes into launching a streaming platform and curating digital content directed at a subculture of highly passionate fans. We also discuss the challenges of licensing, how the platform helps viewers discover new bands, and so much more! Regardless of whether you’re a metalhead or not, you’ll see that Thunderflix is a testament to the dedication of one enthusiast's unwavering vision for a "Netflix for metal.” This episode promises insights and inspiration for music enthusiasts, art lovers, and entrepreneurs alike, so be sure to tune in today!Key Points From This Episode:Insight into the Hola Mexican Film Festival, which is in its 16th year.When Samuel first discovered heavy metal and fell in love with the art form.The ardent passion that heavy metal fans have for the bands they love.Where the idea for Thunderflix came from and how it satisfied Samuel’s needs as a fan.How he went about negotiating licensing and copyrights with record labels.Challenges of curating and organizing the content available on Thunderflix.What goes into building a streaming platform and populating it with data.Different ways Samuel and his team marketed Thunderflix to their target audience.The future of Thunderflix, which includes producing their own films and concerts.How the platform helps metalheads discover new and incredible bands.Why Samuel believes that work is work, even when you love what you do.A look at some of the many ever-evolving sub-genres of metal.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/samuel-douek-thunderflix
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Why the Creative Arts Are Experiencing a Full-Blown Renaissance
Are the creative and performing arts experiencing a 21st-century renaissance? NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power thinks so. “What's left when you've lost faith in your church, in your company, in your government?” he ponders in this week’s podcast episode. “What's left when you feel like all the fundamentals have lost their integrity and you've lost trust in the cornerstones of our societies? Well, I would speculate that art and artists are left.”In today’s episode, Scott delves into the rebirth of creative culture in contemporary America. Spurred by waning trust in corporations, capitalism, and religious institutions, this renewed appreciation for creative expression signals a cultural sea change in our society. Is this a quest for authenticity in an increasingly commodified world? Are we yearning for connection in an age of digital isolation? Where do we find truth and beauty in the modern world?“If you're looking for [integrity, honesty, purity, truth, empathy, compassion, and intelligence], what better place to look than the visual and performing arts?” asks Scott, adding, “Go look at art,” Scott says. “Go meet some artists because you're going to be inspired, and you're going to find positive energy that will give you faith, hope, and trust in our country, in our communities, and in ourselves.”Tune in today as we explore these questions, shed light on the cultural shifts unfolding before our eyes, and celebrate the resilience of creativity and the enduring power of artistic expression in shaping our collective consciousness. Key Points From This Episode:Brands that have ignited a passion for creativity and design.Reasons that we’ve lost faith in institutions, corporations, and capitalism at large.Different ways that our governments and communities have eroded in recent years.How art fills the void that’s left when all the fundamentals have lost their integrity.Why looking at great art and meeting great artists is so inspiring.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/arts-renaissance
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Muralist Michelle Hoogveld: The Power of Color, Connection, and Love
Instantly recognizable and beaming with positivity, Michelle Hoogveld’s colorful, kaleidoscopic murals demonstrate the power of love, connection, and color. Her graphic, geometric compositions weave an intricate tapestry of joy and passion, the relationships we form with each other, and the one thing that connects us all: love.“I chose February 14 as my first day as a professional artist because I wanted to choose love,” Michelle says. “I wanted that to be my day of choosing the thing that brought me the most joy and passion. At that time, I had no idea that my art would be about love and connection, so it's a symbol and a meaningful date because it's not only just about love romantically for the world, but it became a catalyst for this career change and my goal as an artist moving forward.”In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Michelle to discuss the Canadian artist’s practice and creative process. A former athlete, Michelle shares the valuable lessons she picked up playing soccer and how it helped her in the studio. “[Being an athlete] taught me determination, [motivation], and hard work ethic,” she says. “You put in the time. That very much translates to running your own business and being an artist. You have to put in the time, you have to dream big, and you have to have goals of excellence.”Michelle and Scott also chat about the motivating effects of self-care, why her practice remains mostly a “one-man show,” and the importance of “just showing up.” Tune into today’s episode with Michelle Hoogveld for a conversation about color, connection, and creating a brighter world.Key Points From This Episode:Some of the colorful, eye-catching murals Michelle has done in LA.The massive studio she recently found that can accommodate her large-scale work.Insight into her creative process and why she mostly remains a “one-man show.”What Michelle learned about putting in the time and dreaming big from being an athlete.Why she chose February 14th as the first day of her career as a professional artist.Influential people in her life and how the painter Andrew Salgado has inspired her.How seeing others chase their dreams gives you permission to try.Advice for young artists who are trying to find their voice in the art world.Reasons that love, connection, and color are at the core of Michelle’s work.A look at her daily schedule and routine and the power of just showing up.How self-care informs motivation and even inspiration for Michelle.What the future holds for today’s guest and where you can view her work.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/michelle-hoogveld
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Kate Averett Anderson of Black Mountain College: Birthplace of the American Avant-Garde
Despite its short lifespan, Black Mountain College (BMC) left a lasting legacy as an influential pioneering arts institution that challenged traditional academic structures and fostered a unique community of creative thinkers. Founded in 1933 just 20 minutes outside of Asheville, NC, the college emphasized holistic learning and the study of art as central tenets of its educational philosophy. While BMC closed in 1957 due to funding issues, many of its faculty and students were or would become influential in the arts, including Josef and Anni Albers, Elaine and Willem de Kooning, John Cage, Ray Johnson, Robert Motherwell, Robert Rauschenberg, and Cy Twombly. In today’s special crossover episode from our friends at ArtsvilleUSA, we welcome Kate Averett Anderson, a writer, curator, staff historian, project coordinator, and board member at the Black Mountain College Museum + Arts Center (BMCM+AC). The museum works to preserve the legacy of educational and artistic innovation of BMC through exhibitions, conservation, educational events, and public programs. “It's not about having a gallery space where you walk in and you go, ‘Here is the history of Black Mountain College from beginning to end,” says Kate. “You can come in and have hands-on experiences with different exhibitions that tell a lot of different stories.”In this episode, you’ll discover the fascinating connections between BMC and the iconic Bauhaus movement, relive the vibrant atmosphere of the college's legendary parties, and uncover the pivotal role of the BMCM+AC in keeping BMC's spirit alive. From exploring historical parallels to celebrating the creative freedom that BMC championed, this episode offers valuable insight into the birthplace of the American avant-garde. “[Black Mountain College] was a haven for a lot of people,” says Kate. “It was a place where a lot of people had the freedom and ability to explore different elements of their identity.” Key Points From This Episode:An introduction to Kate, her career journey, and her role at BMCM+AC.The origin story of BMC (which starts with a scandal, like all good stories do).Insight into founder John A. Rice’s educational philosophy on hands-on learning.Nazis, the final days of the Bauhaus, and how Josef and Anni Albers found BMC.Influential figures that attended BMC and the relationships that developed between them.The legendary parties that were thrown at BMC; such as Jean Verda’s Greek party.An overview of the communal, democratic, non-hierarchical structure at BMC.How a young Robert Rauschenberg was profoundly influenced by his time at BMC.Some of the many famous student revolts at BMC; including one known as The Split.Cultural and political shifts that impacted the college in the late 1950s.The important role that BMCM+AC plays in keeping the BMC legacy alive.How the BMCM+AC differentiates itself from the typical stagnant museum institution.Different stories that BMCM+AC hopes to tell about BMC, not just its history.Looking to the future in the ReVIEWING Black Mountain College conference.Reflecting on the history of identity intersection and racial integration at BMC.A closing anecdote about Harriet Sohmers Zwerling and sexual liberation at BMC.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/black-mountain-college
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Moral Masuoka of Beautify Earth: Connecting the World With Street Art
In a world full of digital noise, street art can tell vital stories, rejuvenate urban spaces, and bring communities closer together. For over 10 years, creative agency Beautify Earth has collaborated with artists and brands to connect communities through murals, street art, and strategic marketing. Today’s guest, Beautify Earth CEO Moral Masuoka, joins host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power to discuss her organization’s commitment to positive social and environmental change through public art. “People are starting to think about the spaces that they live in, especially when it comes to community and how we’re relating with the people around us, getting out of our own houses, and trying to be engaged in the places that we live,” says Moral, who combines her love of contemporary art with social policy and urban design to create community engagement. “Street art does an amazing job of that. People can be connected by a piece of artwork in their community. It’s something that you can talk about and [identify with]. It can also become a representation of the stories and the people who live there.” In today’s episode, Scott and Moral discuss public art as a vehicle for placemaking, balancing professionalism with creativity and spontaneity, and the importance of cultivating creative habits daily. The two also explore the complex relationship between street art and gentrification: “[Street art can either be] a tool of people trying to gentrify neighborhoods or it can be a powerful tool to represent the people that are there, amplify voices, and show the people in the community that need to be prioritized, not displaced,” says Moral. To find out more about Beautify Earth and its mission to elevate street art and advocate for its practitioners, listen to our conversation with CEO Moral Masuoka on the player above. Key Points From This Episode:The origin story of Beautify Earth and how it utilizes art as a tool for positive social change.How the perception of street art has progressed and how it can connect communities.Street art as a vehicle to amplify community voices versus as a tool for gentrification.Different roles that art can play and why situational awareness is key.Opportunities for connection within the network of artists that partner with Beautify.Ways that Beautify caters to the constantly evolving needs of artists.Common career challenges that Beautify works with artists to overcome.How Beautify educates clients (and artists) about the economic impact of art.Lessons that Moral has learned as Beautify has grown into a creative agency.Balancing professionalism versus spontaneity in street art.Insight into Moral's career journey, her love for art, and how it led her to Beautify.Why Moral believes it’s important for everyone to cultivate a daily creative practice.Reasons that drawing should be considered as crucial a skill as writing or math.Moral’s parting thoughts about the unique value of art as a communication tool.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/moral-masuoka-beautify-earth
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What Does an Ethical Code of Conduct Look Like for Artists?
“First, do no harm.” Written nearly 2,500 years ago in Greece, the Hippocratic Oath and its principles hold a sacred place in the hearts and minds of doctors to this day. Traditionally sworn by graduating medical-school students, the Oath remains the gold standard for ethical practices in Western Medicine. While codes of ethical conduct are commonplace throughout medicine and science, the art world is sorely lacking a similar system to hold industry professionals accountable for their actions. What would it look like if artists had their own version of this solemn pledge? “I think that artists need to swear an oath as well,” says NOT REAL ART founder and podcast host Scott “Sourdough” Power in today’s episode. “An oath of ethical behaviors, an oath to a certain level of performance that's based on a mutually agreed upon set of ethics and values so that artists, art buyers, and arts professionals [are] confident and comfortable that people are behaving well and not behaving badly.”Picture a code of conduct tailored for artists, patrons, and creative professionals alike, a compass to help navigate the complexities of artistic endeavor. In these uncertain times, we at NOT REAL ART believe the need for an effective creative code is more pressing than ever. In today’s episode, Scott delves into what this oath might entail and how it could benefit artists in the long run: “If [artists] could create a culture that's rooted in a mutual set of ethics and values that we all agreed to and we had our own pledge, our own oath that we swore to that everybody knew what it was and held us accountable, we would behave better, and we would do better.”Want to be part of a more ethical art world? Tune in to today’s episode, then submit your own version of the artist’s ethical code for a chance to be featured on NOT REAL ART.Key Points From This Episode:What the Hippocratic Oath is and what it means for physiciansReasons that the art world needs its own Hippocratic OathHow a mutually agreed upon set of ethics and values could benefit artistsListener challenge: submit your Hippocratic Oath for artists!Why an artist’s reputation is so important at the end of the dayFor more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/hippocratic-oath
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Katie Love of Laugh Gallery: Celebrating the Art of Comedy and the Comedy of Art
Editor’s note: Today’s special episode comes to us from our friends at Laugh Gallery, who operate under the Crewest Studio network of podcasts alongside NOT REAL ART.Despite what your parents told you, comedy is an art. Comedy writing is difficult, and crafting laughs is no easy feat, especially when the stakes are so high. “Funny” varies from person to person, and there’s no hell deeper than the punishing silence after a failed joke. Welcome to Laugh Gallery, a podcast that celebrates—and elevates—the art of comedy and the comedy of art. In this introductory episode, NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power and Laugh Gallery host Katie Love take you behind the curtain for an inside scoop on the what, why, and how of the podcast. “Laugh Gallery is an honorary, beautiful way to celebrate the art of comedy and the comedy of art,” says Katie, a Los Angeles-based writer and comic. “The wonderful thing about being in L.A. in the comedy scene is you can literally take yourself to school. There’s a lot of comedy classes out there. But if you really want to learn comedy, buy yourself some tickets because you're going to see the best comics come through Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, and they're often working on their stuff here in cafes, coffee houses, bars, and weird little shows.”Scott and Katie discuss the origins behind Laugh Gallery, the importance of stage time and money for comedians, and the similarities between visual artists and comedians. As Scott says in this episode, “Comics and visual artists have so much in common, in that they are struggling to break out and to be appreciated.” Listen to this special crossover episode on the player above, then subscribe to the Laugh Gallery podcast for side-splitting comedy with a dash of wisdom. Key Points From This Episode:What Laugh Gallery is, where the idea came from, and why we’re doing it.Similarities and shared struggles between the art world and the comedy scene.Stage time and money: the two most important things for comics.Insight into Comedy 420, four comics doing 20 minutes of standup.Our vision for the Laugh Gallery Podcast and where you can see Comedy 420.Some of the amazing comics you’ll get to laugh with on Laugh Gallery!For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/laugh-gallery-podcast
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Graffiti Artist Man One Returns for the First Episode of the NOT REAL ART Podcast
As you may or may not know by now, we share some compelling creative conversations from the NOT REAL ART archives a couple of times a month. In today’s very special replay, we're throwing it all the way back with a truly historic episode: the very first one! As you’ll discover, it isn’t quite as polished as the podcast you’ve come to know and love. In fact, it’s a little bit of a mess, but you can’t deny that it’s raw and authentic! Listening in, you’ll hear NOT REAL ART Founder Scott “Sourdough” Power and the one and only Man One chopping it up and solving all the world's problems as they find their feet in the podcasting world and put the show you’re listening to today in motion. Stay tuned to enjoy this blast from the past!Key Points From This Episode:The raw, authentic roots of the NOT REAL ART Podcast.Why we started a podcast when the last thing anybody needed was another podcast!Where the title, NOT REAL ART, came from.Insight into the culture of graffiti from Man One’s perspective.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/numero-uno
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Confidence, Cohesion, and Team-Building: What Artists Can Learn From Dress Rehearsal
Performing for a live audience in a new, unpredictable setting requires tremendous concentration. The stage is bigger than your studio, someone sneezes or coughs, a cell phone rings, and your costume is way itchier than your practice sweats. How do you stay focused when your performance space is full of distractions and irrelevant stimuli? Enter the dress rehearsal. “A dress rehearsal will give you information that you just can't get otherwise,” says host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power, who discusses the benefits of rehearsing a dry run in today’s podcast episode. “[Making] the effort to go through the motions and do the dress rehearsal is going to be hugely powerful for you in terms of giving you confidence, empowering you, and giving you agency.”Dress rehearsals aren’t just beneficial to those in the performing arts. Anyone can benefit from a confidence boost before a nerve-racking event. “If you find yourself in a situation where you're nervous, you've got a big meeting, you've got a big interview, you've got a big presentation, and you want to alleviate or mitigate some of those nerves, some of that anxiety, do a dress rehearsal,” says Scott, who tells listeners about a successful dress rehearsal of his own in this episode. Scott doles out practical advice for making the most of your rehearsal, so whether you’ve got a big presentation, interview, or performance coming up, this episode is here to help.Key Points From This Episode:A story that illustrates the everyday power of dress rehearsals.Sourdough’s key takeaway from his example of a dress rehearsal.How he changed his mind after a meeting (and why you should always take the meeting!)Why he believes it was the dress rehearsal that ultimately led to his success.Practical applications for dress rehearsals in your personal and professional life.The confidence-boosting power of taking the time to “go through the motions.”Information you can gain from a dress rehearsal that you can’t get otherwise.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/dress-rehearsal
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Z-Trip: How ‘America’s Best DJ’ Pushes the Boundaries of Creativity
Editor’s note: Today’s special episode comes to us from our friends at The Conduit, who operate under the Crewest Studio network of podcasts alongside NOT REAL ART. In the ‘90s, rock was rock, hip-hop was hip-hop, and never the twain did meet. Then, at the turn of the century, a 73-minute, genre-bending bomb exploded onto the music scene, shattering notions about the limits of creativity and collaboration. Uneasy Listening, Vol. I, a joint record from like-minded DJs P and Z-Trip, broke genre conventions by mixing rock ‘n’ roll mainstays like Rush and Pat Benatar with dance and hip-hop cuts from Madonna, Redman, and The Pharcyde.Welcome to The Conduit, a podcast featuring candid conversations with professional musicians who give listeners the unvarnished truth about being an artist in the music industry. In today’s episode, L.A.-based DJ, producer, and musician Dan Ubick (aka Constantine “Connie” Price) sits down with Zach Sciacca (better known as DJ Z-Trip) to discuss the musician’s pioneering work as a key player in the mash-ups movement.“It wasn’t like I set out to become a DJ,” says Z-Trip, whose Uneasy Listening arrived on the scene in 2001, just as samples, remixes, and mashups were gaining credibility as a valid form of self-expression. “It was very much about me having this music and wanting to share it,” he continues. “Once I realized that I could put it together and I could expose people to the things that I liked, the DJ thing came into play.” Widely known as both the godfather of mashups and “America’s Best DJ,” an award he received in 2009 from the DJ Times, Z-Trip is also renowned for his technical abilities and production skills. Over the years, he’s collaborated with innovative artists like Nas, Beck, Public Enemy, and DJ Shadow, remixing songs from artists as varied as Bob Marley and the Butthole Surfers. In his interview, Z-Trip shares the brightest pearls of wisdom he’s pocketed along the way: “One thing I learned through the arc of my whole career is take chances,” he says. “Be risky, try to push boundaries. Don’t always play it safe. There’s a time to play it safe, there’s a time to lock in.”Z-Trip also touches on his favorite genre-bending tracks (see Afrika Bambaataa’s “Planet Rock”), why creative consistency trumps big milestones, and how to find like-minded artists traveling a similar career path. His advice to aspiring DJs? “Every gig, go into it like it’s your first [and last],” he says, adding, “put your heart and fucking soul into it because you never know who’s watching.” Key Points From This Episode:How the contrasting worlds of New York and Arizona influenced Zach’s taste in music.The diverse collection of 12-inch singles that led him to become a DJ.Why ‘Rock the Bells’ by LL Cool J epitomizes Zach’s genre-bending style.Zach’s belief in pushing boundaries rather than chasing money or trends.The unique sense of discovery that attracted him to hip-hop.Talent over appearance: the freaks, geeks, and outcasts that were also drawn to the genre.Insight into Zach's process of producing his own music; which started with pause tapes.The story of the ‘Rockstar’ track on Return of the DJ that caught the attention of his peers.Why open-mindedness is an essential component of the mashup.Benefits of working with someone who’s “in your trajectory” versus an established artist.Key lessons from Zach’s career: be risky! Push boundaries! Take chances!Reasons that getting signed is only the beginning of your career.Why, not how: the perspective Zach gained from the COVID-19 pandemic.How live streaming and virtual raves influenced his practice and mindset.What it looks like to define true success by the aggregate, not the benchmarks.Playing every gig like it’s your first and last: Zach’s advice for aspiring musicians.Why he recommends building a small passionate community over chasing the numbers.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/z-trip
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The 10 Friends Who Will Make Your Life Richer, Fuller, and More Rewarding
Birds of a feather flock together… right? As human beings, we are naturally drawn to people who look and think like us, but limiting our friendships to a homogenized group of people reduces our ability to see the world in all of its richness and complexity. Our own lives become smaller and less rewarding as a result. “If we're only talking to the people that we like and that agree with us, that's going to be a problem for a healthy functioning democracy,” says host and NOT REAL ART publisher Scott “Sourdough” Power. In today’s podcast episode, Scott discusses the 10 friends we should surround ourselves with for richer, fuller, and more enlightened lives. “We all need friends who help us see the world differently. We all need friends who help us see the world more fully, more richly, more colorfully, more accurately, more realistically.”From Democrats and polymaths to techno-geeks and Jesus freaks, Scott shares his thoughts on the 10 friends who will broaden your horizons: “Everybody needs at least one friend who's an artist because artists see the world in a very different way. They are empathetic seers that are able to see things we can't see.” He continues: “It’s a mosaic out there. It’s a beautiful spectrum of realities and truths out there. If we only talk to our tribe and we Balkanize and segregate into our echo chambers of biased opinions and prejudices, if we only are friends with people who see the world like us, we're destined to not be able to empathize or have compassion or respect for other people. We end up making the 'other’ the enemy. We end up reducing our ability to see the world in its fullness and its richness. Your life is going to be less than if you limit your friends to a very narrow homogenized group or sample of people, but if you can work towards having a diverse, eclectic group of friends, your life will be richer and more fulfilling.”Tune into today’s episode to find out why your circle of friends should reflect the diversity of our world.Key Points From This Episode:The importance of having a diverse group of friends.How our mobile phones have isolated us from those around us.Reasons that we should respect one another, despite our differences.Benefits of having friends that support different political parties.Ways that scientists can help us view the world differently.Why we need both engineers and artists in our lives.Friends who can help us take better care of our bodies and spirits.Potentially selfish motivations for having at least one tech-savvy friend!Why our friendship groups should reflect the beautiful, diverse world we live in.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/ten-friends
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Artsville: Looking at the World Differently with Kenn Kotara
You might already know this, but here at Crewest Studio, we produce several different podcasts. One of these podcasts is Artsville, which celebrates American contemporary art and craft from Asheville, North Carolina, and beyond. If you’re looking to discover world-class artisans, artists, craftspeople, and makers, Artsville has it all: from painting and pottery to weaving, woodworking, glass blowing, and more! Today, you’ll hear from contemporary mixed-media abstract artist, Kenn Kotara, as we share an interview from the Artsville archives. Based in Asheville, Kenn’s practice is shaped by his lifelong fascination with architecture, philosophy, and literature, and he masterfully expresses himself across canvas, paper, mylar, polaroids, site-specific installations, and even Braille. In this episode, we explore Kenn’s transition from representational to abstract work and the impact that Asheville has had on him as an artist. Tuning in, you’ll find out what working with Braille taught Kenn about being present and mindful, why he believes in the power of art to bridge divides in a world where so many seek to widen them, and how he has devoted his career to looking at the world differently by embracing a myriad of inspirations. We also touch on the paramount importance of education, how artists can practice the art of listening, and so much more. For a fascinating conversation with a side of inspiration and a fresh perspective on life (and art), don’t miss this episode of Artsville with Kenn Kotara!Key Points From This Episode:Kenn’s upbringing, his French Cajun heritage and the Polish origins of his name, Kotara.The story of what brought Kenn to Asheville more than 25 years ago.What he loves about living and working in the nurturing environment of Asheville.The evolution of his work and the impact Asheville had on his practice as a painter.Understanding the influence of architecture, graphic design, and technology on his work.How Kenn cultivates discipline as an artist and navigates what he calls the chaos of creation.Kenn’s work with Braille and the perspective it gave him on empathy and perfection.The relationships he has built within the visually impaired community as a result.What wearing a blindfold to emulate blindness taught him about being present in the moment.Insight into the process of writing Braille and the tools and methodologies that he uses.One of the major literary influences on Kenn’s work: Henry David Thoreau’s Walden.Reflecting on the significance of his Braille work for those who aren’t visually impaired.The power of art to bridge gaps rather than create them, like so many politicians seek to do.How Kenn’s site-specific installations encourage conversation and facilitate education.Listening as an art form: how Kenn came to be so articulate about his artwork.Why Kenn is so devoted to his work in education, even as he formally retires from teaching.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/kenn-kotara
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Embracing the Power of Creativity in All its Forms with Teddy Margas
As part of our mission to reinvigorate the NOT REAL ART Podcast schedule in 2024, we’re not only introducing you to new artists every month but we’re also revisiting the archives to bring you creative conversations that you might have missed! In this episode, you’ll have the opportunity to reconnect with Teddy Margas, a charismatic actor, writer, comedian, and performer who shared an uplifting message about embracing the power of creativity back in Episode 170. As we say in Hollyweird, Teddy is a “working actor” who has his fingers in many pies and continues to grow and branch out, always taking on new challenges and art forms to stay inspired. Tune in as we discuss Teddy's upbringing, moments from his childhood that left an impression on him, how he welcomes his trauma into his comedy performances, and why connecting with an audience is such a powerful thing. We also touch on some of his incredible character work, particularly his fascination with the ‘Karen' stereotype, and his insightful advice for approaching auditions. As you’ll discover, Teddy is a shining example of creative talent and dedication, who believes that allowing space for the magic of play and creativity can bring so much joy and fulfillment into our lives. If you missed this conversation the first time around, here’s your chance to soak up the wit and wisdom of the one and only Teddy Margas!Key Points From This Episode:Insight into Teddy's upbringing, birth in North Carolina, and formative years in Philadelphia. Benefits of growing up in a cultural melting pot like Philly.His two-part move to LA and what it was like to leave a small pond for a big city.Free your mind and the rest will follow: how he learned to marry all of his creative talents.Teddy's belief in the importance of nurturing the artistic impulses of young children. The bravery it takes to get up on stage and why he thinks everyone should try it!Thoughts on the connection between comedy and trauma.When Teddy found his voice and learned to truly connect with an audience.How Teddy describes his work and skillsets depending on the context.What goes into the development of Teddy's characters and his fascination with Karens.From studying acting in Philly to scene study in LA: important lessons from Teddy's journey.The art of auditioning: key elements of successful auditioning techniques. How Teddy has used silence in his routine to great effect. Surprising roles and places that Teddy has found himself in thanks to his love for creating.Why he encourages everyone listening to do something creative today.Hurdles he faces at this point in his career (and why we should all face challenges head-on).For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/teddy-margas
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NOT REAL ART Publisher Scott Power and Editor in Chief Morgan Laurens: Year-End Holiday Wrap Party
Happy holidays, listeners! Welcome to our penultimate podcast episode of 2023. In our year-end round-up, NOT REAL ART Publisher Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Editor in Chief Morgan Laurens to reflect on the past year and offer an exclusive sneak peek into our exciting 2024 programming.From launching First Friday Exhibitions to hosting REMOTE, Badir McCleary’s video series on public art, available exclusively through NOT REAL ART, 2023 was jam-packed with fresh, innovative ways to support working artists. “[REMOTE] is part travel show,” says Scott, commenting on the series’ broad appeal. “[Badir takes] you to these fantastic works of public art and explores the city in the process.” The first five episodes of REMOTE, covering cities as diverse as Philadelphia and San Antonio, are available to watch here. Tuning in, listeners will hear about our favorite Q+Art interviews from the past year, the most memorable exhibitions from our First Friday series, and our ongoing collaboration with sister brand Artsville, which celebrates contemporary American arts and crafts. Scott and Morgan also discuss the expanded programming for 2024, including a fresh take on our podcast, the 2024 grant cycle, and novel ways to engage with and nurture our community of artists. “We’ve done a good job of amassing and coalescing and organizing thousands of artists who are now in our ecosystem and community,” says Scott, reflecting on NOT REAL ART’s new membership program (join here!). “We’re going to spend a lot of time in 2024 intentionally nurturing and engaging our community in a way we haven’t in the past.”Above all, we want to thank our friends, partners, collaborators, and guests for another year of incredible artwork, interviews, exhibitions, kind notes, and all-around badassery. Your generosity, creativity, and boundless curiosity inspire us to the stars and back. Wishing you a happy holiday season and a sublime new year from your friends at NOT REAL ART. Key Points From This Episode:First Friday exhibitions from 2023 that stand out in Morgan’s memory.How Morgan works closely with artists to hone in on the story behind their work.Ways that she has fine-tuned her art writing process over the years.Some of Morgan’s favorite artist interviews from the Q + Art series.The ‘Remote’ video series with Badir McCleary, which explores the world of public art.Exciting ways that we will refresh the NOT REAL ART podcast schedule in 2024.Perks and benefits that will accompany our new membership portal.Acknowledgment and appreciation for all of our incredible pals and partners!A preview of what might be the world’s first hip-hop holiday song, ‘Christmas in L.A.’For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/holiday-special
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Christmas in L.A.: The Story Behind the Song
While much of the country prepares for a frosty festive season, the holidays look a little different in Los Angeles. Imagine palm trees decked out with baubles and twinkling lights, sunny skies, and 70 degree temperatures. With Christmas just around the corner, our parent company, Crewest Studio, wanted to spread the holiday cheer, put some positive vibes into the world, and celebrate the City of Angels’ legendary hip-hop roots. Produced as a “special gift” to the City of Los Angeles, “Christmas in L.A.” is a free, downloadable song that taps into the city’s hip-hop culture with special guest performances. Featuring L.A.-based emcees Aceyalone, 2Mex, Medusa, and Myka 9 alongside Raul Pacheco and Asdru Sierra of Grammy award-winning Latin rock band Ozomatli, “Christmas in L.A.” pays homage to the City of Angels' magical—and unique—holiday season.On today’s podcast episode, host Scott “Sourdough” Power and Crewest Studio co-founder Man One sit down with the song’s producer, multi-instrumentalist Dan Ubick, to discuss how “Christmas in L.A.” came together in just a few short weeks. “I was so honored to get to work with some new people and try and rise to the challenge of creating a Christmas song that wasn’t corny, [that was] fresh and fun,” says Dan. “[We wanted] to show off the multicultural-ness of growing up in L.A.”Listeners will also hear from some of the brilliant musical minds behind “Christmas in L.A.,” including Aceyalone, 2Mex, Myka 9, Medusa, Raul Pacheco from Ozomatli, Mixmaster Wolf, and Monalisa. Join us as they share their memories of celebrating warm Christmases in California and reflect on the unforgettable legacy of hip-hop in L.A. “From the minute we thought of doing the [“Christmas in L.A.”] project, we knew we wanted it to be 100 percent pure L.A.,” says Scott. “It had to be real; it had to be authentic. To be able to get this line-up, this roster of L.A. emcees, is such a huge honor. It elevates this project in such a special way. Everybody brings their unique flavor to what is really a Christmas story.”“Christmas in L.A.” is available to download on Crewest Studio or for streaming on Spotify or Apple Music. An exclusive artist autograph signing takes place at DesignerCon in Anaheim, CA, on Dec. 15, 2023. Limited edition prints and other merchandise featuring artwork from L.A. graffiti artist Man One will also be available.Listen or download the track here.Key Points From This Episode:Dan Ubick’s perspective on producing this bumper holiday tune in just a few weeks.Insight into the dope artwork that Man One created for the track.What Aceyalone’s Christmas traditions look like and why he’s so proud of this song.2Mex’s growing appreciation for Christmas and his gratitude for the legacy of Project Blowed.Reminiscing on what it was like to work with all the musicians on this projectWhy Myka9 believes that it’s important to celebrate joy and creativity right now.A look at what Christmas means to Raul Pacheco, having grown up in LA.Raul’s take on the unique underground hip-hop flavors of ‘Christmas in L.A.’Surfing on Christmas Day, Ray Charles records, and other holiday memories from Dan Ubick.What a big traditional Latinx family Christmas looked like in Man One’s house!Some of the most memorable gifts that Dan, Man One, and Sourdough ever received.Medusa on the privilege of being invited to commemorate Christmas in Los Angeles.How she will be celebrating the festive season with her family this year.The importance of giving back to your community this Christmas.Why Mixmaster Wolf believes this song is so relatable to so many people.Monalisa’s family-centric experience of the festive season and the “gift of being alive.”Where Man One got his inspiration for the ‘Christmas in L.A.’ artwork and merch.Stay tuned to hear our labor of love and our Christmas gift to the City of Angels!For more information, please visit:http://notrealart.com/christmas-in-la-the-songhttp://xmasinla.comhttps://creweststudio.com/christmas-in-la/
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Tm Gratkowski: Why Creative Mastery Is More Than the 10,000-Hour Rule
What sets professional artists apart from amateurs? 10,000 hours of practice is the common rule of thumb, popularized by author Malcolm Gladwell in his bestseller Outliers: The Story of Success. Today’s guest, multidisciplinary artist Tm Gratkowski, believes that 10,000 hours is the minimum when it comes to achieving creative mastery.On today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Tm to discuss the Chicago artist’s commitment to mastering multiple creative skill sets within his artistic practice. “I always say that 10,000 hours is for amateurs,” he tells Scott early in the interview. “It’s just the beginning. You've got to multiply that by 10 if you're ever going to get to a level that it’s in your interest to aspire to.”Working as an architect and art framer, Tm, like many successful contemporary artists, supports himself with a diverse range of services. In his studio practice, he uses paper to create large and small-scale sculptures, collages, and even installations. Tm’s work is chaotic, colorful, and detail-oriented, suggesting a preference for tactile, easily manipulated materials. “I break [an idea] down, make it bend my way,” he says, “and then use that to create.” In this episode, Tm shares his philosophy on developing a diverse set of skills, embracing discomfort as part of the process, and why he chooses to identify as a creative thinker rather than a multidisciplinary artist. We also discuss the many facets of an artist's DNA, the pressure many artists feel to find a “practical” angle for their creative practice, and how Tm finds time for work-life balance, given his thoughts on the 10,000-hour rule. Above all, Tm wants artists to recognize the hard work they put in to get where they are. “Snoop Dogg received a big award recently,” he tells Scott. “In his speech, he said, ‘I'd like to thank myself for all the years of struggle and hard work. I did it all myself to get here.’ That is me. Whether or not that's working hard or smart, it takes a lot to do it. You’re wearing many hats.” Key Points From This Episode:How Tm’s approach to work-life balance has evolved as his practice has grown.Why he says that discipline, work ethic, and creativity are part of his DNA.The path less traveled that Tm took to “find his voice” and develop his visual language.Being a contemporary artist and creative thinker rather than a multidisciplinary artist.How studying architecture has informed and influenced Tm’s art practice.Insight into the various layers, elements, and ideas that make up one of Tm’s artworks.What kind of support he had from his family on his journey as an artist.Unpacking the pressure that artists often feel to have a “practical” profession.The interplay between hard work and cultural heritage that Tm benefited from in the Midwest.A pragmatic look at the diversity and flexibility Tm has incorporated into his business.Some of the many hats that artists and business owners have to wear today.Tm’s take on AI and its role in the current “creative renaissance.”What Tm is working on right now and where you can see his upcoming exhibitions.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/tm-gratkowski
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Comedian Zach Zucker: The Power of Creative Collaboration
Creativity doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Even solo artists draw inspiration from the people, places, and artworks that most affect them. In a performance-oriented industry like music, comedy, or theater, embracing the power of collaboration can yield unexpected artistic highs for everyone involved. Our guest today, comedian Zach Zucker, is a living example of the incredible things creative collaboration can bring. As the creator of Stamptown, an award-winning production company that creates and tours with original comedy and musical acts, Zach collaborates with countless artists and facilitates performances all over the world. “I want to learn from the best at all times,” he says. “And just constantly get my mind blown and see how much more there is out there and how much I can aspire to achieve.”On today’s podcast episode, host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Zach to discuss the comedian’s background in athletics and how the virtues he learned—discipline, teamwork, and humility—helped him navigate his transition to show business. Zach shares the many challenges that arise from running his own business and why it’s uniquely difficult to be a good performer while simultaneously dealing with the pressing concerns of a producer. “One of the maybe the hardest parts I run into is advocating for myself in a way that doesn't have consequences because I have to wear the producer's hat and the performer's hat.”Zach also sheds some light on the delicate balancing act required for fruitful collaboration. “We are, as a group, unstoppable when we are all playing in the [best] way that we can, when we're all listening to each other, and we trust each other, and we respect each other,” he says. I want everyone to go out there and steal the show. I want everybody to be the funniest part of the show. I want them to do it in the most selfless, respectful way possible.”Key Points From This Episode:Zach’s background in athletics and the origins of his interest in comedy.The pivotal show that inspired him to become a performer.Key skills Zach learned as an athlete and how it has supported him in show business.Insights into what motivates him to be such a prolific creator and collaborator.Stamptown as a production company and how they support other exceptional performers.Unpacking the underlying principles of clowning and having a playbook mentality onstage.Contrasting method acting with other schools of thought.Zach’s approach to comedy line-ups and how he prioritizes the ensemble elements.Putting together a variety show for Stamptown’s inclusive, avante-garde, anarchic style.Millennial and Gen Z comedy taste and how it’s reflected in Zach’s shows.Why comedy is all about rhythm and how hip hop influenced his approach.Zach’s SNL audition tape and how they built a skit around it.The challenges of being an artist and business owner and what Zach has learned from it.Negotiating with venues, the costs involved, and how performers are often exploited.Some of the exciting things that Zach, and Not Real Art, have coming up!For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/zach-zucker
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Why Do We Make Art?
On today’s podcast episode, we attempt to answer a deceptively simple but critical question: Why do we make art? The answer, it turns out, is different for everyone.“The way I see it, there are three basic reasons why anyone makes art,” says NOT REAL ART founder and podcast host Scott “Sourdough” Power. “Number one, some people make art just for fun. Other reasons people make art, money, they want to make money. The last reason I think artists make art is that many artists want to make history.”By outlining three basic approaches to art-making, this episode encourages listeners to define their motivations in concrete terms. Do you want to go down in history as an influential artist? Do you simply have mouths to feed and bills to pay? Or are your creative pursuits purely for joy and personal fulfillment? Maybe it’s a little bit from all three categories. “The answer to those questions really dictates the kinds of decisions you make for your career and for your business moving forward,” Scott says. “It will really clarify where you want to go in your life, the decisions you want to make, the kinds of investments you want to make in time and treasure.”With a clearer understanding of your motivations, you can make decisions that align with long-term goals and overarching values. On today’s episode, Scott discusses the different paths an artist might take depending on their objective and shares some practical tips to help them get there. “I don't think any artist should hesitate to make a T-shirt, or a hat, or a sticker, or a tote bag, or key chain with their art, because that's a revenue stream, and museums have gift shops for a reason.“Think deeply,” he continues. “Do some soul searching and some introspection and define very clearly in your own mind and heart and ask yourself—why do you make art?” Join us for today’s episode as we unpack the critical process of understanding and living by your motivations. Key Points From This Episode:This episode’s topic: an auditorial centering on the question of why you make art. Three basic reasons people make art: for fun, for money, or to make history.The path you will need to follow if your goal is to find critical acclaim. What you’ll need to do if your goal is to generate an income through art.How your approach will differ if you are looking only to feed your soul through art. The way your reason for making art influences your relationship with it.What will change if you ask yourself what motivates you to make art.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/why-do-we-make-art
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The NOT REAL ART podcast celebrates creative culture and the artists who make it. NOT REAL ART is fresh, fun and inspiring. It contains material not suitable for pretentious art snobs. Guests include the world-class artists, designers and creatives who drive the $2T creative economy.NOT REAL ART is hosted by L.A. based art world insiders Man One and Sourdough who bring their devil-may-care attitude to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for the contemporary art world, creative culture, and everything in between.If you're an an arts professional or creative culture enthusiast, NOT REAL ART is for you!
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