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Outside the Line
by Dina
You are more than a shield. Conversations about what keeps cops anchored to what really matters - life outside the thin blue line.
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Episode 21 - Day 1 Week 1 with Billy Bowering
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by Billy Bowering - a navy veteran, former law enforcement, DJ on the Thin Line Rock Station, and founder, CEO and chaplain of his non-profit organization Day 1 Week 1.Billy talks about growing up on a dairy farm in Upstate New York, his career in the US Navy, why he ended up in a dark place after being fired for political reasons while doing his job, and how that led him to become a chaplain and start an organization helping other cops who are struggling with their mental health.Connect with Billy:https://day1week1.org/http://youtube.com/@Day1Week1https://www.instagram.com/day1.week1/Connect with me:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast
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Episode 20 - Bridging Bars and Badges with Rico and BriAnn Lopez
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by husband and wife team Rico Lopez and BriAnn Shipley, the voices on the Thin Line Rock Station and 8158 podcasts, among others. Together they share how they built a platform rooted in helping first responders while also advocating for something people tend to overlook - second chances.Rico opens up about his journey as a former inmate and his passion for mentoring incarcerated individuals in life skills to help prevent recidivism. His perspective is rare and deeply needed - he believes support doesn't have to choose sides. We talk about mental health, redemption, resilience, and what it means to be a bridge between first responders and those working to rebuild their lives. This conversation challenges the "us versus them" mentality and reminds us that healing, accountability, and support can coexist - on both sides of the line.Connect with Rico and BriAnn:https://www.tiktok.com/@8158podcasthttps://www.instagram.com/8158podcasthttps://www.thethinlinerockstation.com/our-djshttps://www.slightlyunhingedradio.com/https://www.instagram.com/slightlyunhingedmedianetwork/Connect with me:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast
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Episode 19 - The Rock Star of Mental Health with Mark DiBona
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.Trigger warning: sexual abuse, suicide (attempt).This week I'm joined by Mark DiBona aka "The Rockstar of Mental Health." Mark started as a cop in Boston and retired as a Sgt in Seminole County, Florida.Mark gets vulnerable about childhood trauma, why he's known as "The Rock Star of Mental Health", and how his passion for helping cops led him to start a non-profit foundation, Protecting the Guardian.Connect with Mark:https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-dibona-the-rock-star-of-mental-healthhttps://protectingtheguardian.com/Connect with me:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast
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Episode 18 - Financial Freedom with Peter Kandinov
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by Peter Kandinov - a retired NYPD Detective and founder for the NYPD Financial Club as well as the NYPD's Financial Wellness classes.Peter talks about coming to this country and starting from humble beginnings, what led him to created financial wellness seminars, and how financial wellness can carry as much stigma as mental health does.Connect with Peter:Whether you're interested in bringing Peter in as a speaker to your department or you want a one-on-one consultation, email [email protected]. Connect with me:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod/https://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcasthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/
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Episode 17 - Leading Relentlessly with Stan Partlow
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by Stan Partlow - retired Commander of the City of Columbus, Ohio Police Department, board member of First Responders Bridge, and author of the book Leading Relentlessly.Stan talks about the legacy of service that runs in his family - starting with his father, then himself, and now his daughter - why he chose his family over a potential career path, and how the lessons he learned throughout his career led him to write his book.Connect with Stan:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stan-partlow-cpphttps://a.co/d/064fQLJShttps://firstrespondersbridge.org/Connect with me:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast
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Episode 16 - Welcome Home (Bonus episode)
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.In this week's bonus episode, I talk about my journey back to my faith.For a long time, I thought I had gone too far. Been too angry, too distant, too far removed from the little girl who once believed without hesitation.I stopped going to Church. Stopped praying. Stopped trying. Somewhere along the way, I convinced myself God probably gave up on me the way I gave up on Him.Fifteen years later, terrified, I walked into a confessional and heard two words that changed everything, "Welcome home."This week's bonus episode is the most personal one I've recorded yet - about losing my faith, rediscovering it, and realizing I was never actually walking alone.If you've ever felt too far gone...this one's for you too.
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Episode 15 - The Last Responders with Jackie MacIsaac
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by Jackie MacIsaac - a Senior Medical Examiner for a local jurisdiction. Jackie talks about her first day as an autopsy assistant, how she stays anchored to the real world, and life as a wife, mother, and last responder.Connect with Dina:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast
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Episode 14 - Checkpoints with Reuben Ramirez
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by Reuben Ramirez - retired Assistant Chief of Dallas PD and founder of the Checkpoints program.Reuben talks about how his faith keeps him anchored to the real world and influences his approach to leadership, the lessons he learned by being vulnerable about his own struggles, and how he turned those lessons into a blueprint for police departments all around the country.Connect with Reueben:https://www.linkedin.com/in/reuben-g-ramirez-6378b184/Learn about Checkpoints:https://www.startcheckpoints.com/https://www.startcheckpoints.com/bookConnect with Dina:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast
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Episode 13 - Big Dump with John Luedke
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week, I'm joined by John Luedke - author, speaker, and trader. John is the author of Big Dump - the story of grit and resilience told through his battle with multiple forms of addiction.John struggled with addiction and compulsive behavior from a very young age. Food and video games were the initial coping mechanisms. By the time he was eight he was introduced to pornography and as he got older, he turned to alcohol and illicit drugs. John's incredible story of grit, hope, resilience, and his continued sobriety is powerful and raw. You won't want to miss it!Trigger warning: drug and substance abuse, addiction.Read John's book:https://a.co/d/07IZywDHConnect with John:https://www.instagram.com/johnny.luedke/
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Episode 12 - Carrying a Legacy with Amanda Rivera
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by a special guest, my coworker Amanda Rivera. Amanda is the daughter of Police Officer William Rivera, who died in the line of duty in 2004 as a result of injuries sustained while pursuing a burglary suspect.Amanda talks about growing up in the NYPD, the moment she realized her life was different than her classmates, and how she honors her father's memory while forging her own path.Support organizations Amanda talks about this episode: NYPD PBA Widow's and Children's Fund -https://www.nycpba.org/widows-childrens-fund/Gary Sinise Foundation - https://www.garysinisefoundation.org/Tuesday's Children - https://www.tuesdayschildren.org/Let's Connect:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.instagram.com/flawed_yet_faithfulhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/
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Episode 11 - Law and Order with Vincent Esposito
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by Vincent Esposito - a retired NYPD Captain now in his second career as a lawyer. Vincent talks about experiencing multiple critical incidents the same year, his mission to spread awareness to the public about the things officers face on a daily basis, and why suicide awareness and prevention means so much to him.Connect with Vincent:https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincent-j-esposito-esqConnect with Dina:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.instagram.com/flawed_yet_faithfulhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/
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Episode 10 - Assist the Officer with Joe King
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by Joe King - a 29-year veteran of Dallas PD and board member of Assist the Officer Foundation, a foundation providing financial assistance to first responders facing a loss of income due to serious injury, life-threatening illness or other catastrophic event.In this episode, Joe talks about his involvement in his department's wellness unit, his own experience in therapy after the loss of a coworker and friend in the line of duty, and how he used his experience in therapy to pay it forward to other officers.Connect with Joe:https://atodallas.org/https://atodallas.org/bridging-the-divide-podcast/https://www.instagram.com/atodallas/https://www.linkedin.com/company/assist-the-officer-foundation/Connect with Dina:https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.instagram.com/flawed_yet_faithfulhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/
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Episode 9 - Foundation Fortified with Josh Grandinetti
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week Dina is joined by Josh Grandinetti, a medically retired fire Captain of 15 years and CEO of Foundation Fortified - an organization dedicated to raising awareness and encouraging the practice of mindfulness among first responders.Josh talks about how a training class changed his career path from neuroscientist to firefighter, what led him to develop a mindfulness practice as a tactical skill, and how he combines the best of both worlds to serve other first responders centered around the unique challenges they face on and off duty.Connect with Josh:https://www.foundationfortified.org/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_2osLcuwVDNzqh6E49l5Rghttps://www.instagram.com/foundation_fortified/https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61560257165834&mibextid=JRoKGi
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Episode 8 - The After Watch Foundation with Patrick Kreuzer
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week Dina is joined by Patrick Kreuzer, a military veteran and retired Police Officer turned Social Worker and Therapy Dog Handler Instructor.Patrick talks about his repeated exposure to critical incidents, his experience in therapy, medical retirement, and how he uses his own healing journey to bring hope to others.Connect with Patrick:https://www.afterwatchfoundation.com/https://www.instagram.com/afterwatchfoundationhttps://www.facebook.com/Afterwatchfoundation/https://www.facebook.com/patrick.kreuzer.98Connect with Dina:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepodhttps://www.instagram.com/flawed_yet_faithful
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Episode 7 - Mentorship and Mental Health with Vincent Scotto
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world. This week I'm joined by Vincent Scotto, retired NYPD Sergeant who is a strong avocate for law enforcement mental health. Vincent talks about growing up as the son of an NYPD officer, intentionally being the mentor to others that he never had, and how his own personal struggles led him to seek mental health resources while he was still active duty.Connect with Vincent Scotto:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincent-scotto-62756287/Connect with Dina:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod/
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Episode 6 - Recovery and Resilience with Brad Waudby
Welcome to Outside the Line, the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week I'm joined by Brad Waudby, Detective First-Grade with the Bergen County NJ Prosecutor's Office. Brad talks about what led him into law enforcement, his journey to sobriety, and how that opened the door for the work he's doing now with his department's officer wellness program.Connect with Brad:https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-waudbyhttps://www.instagram.com/godsbreacher/Warrior Recovery:https://www.warriorrecovery.net/Connect with Dina:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod/
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Episode 5 - Grit and Hope with Jason Andrews
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This episode I'm joined by Jason Andrews. Retired US Coast Guard and US Army veteran, Jason is now a CEO of his own business and radio DJ.Jason talks about his childhood, what led him to join the military, overcoming adversity and many injuries, and how he became involved with one of the nation's highest profile murder investigations.Connect with Jason:https://www.instagram.com/jason777a/https://www.instagram.com/operation_alpha_ready/Follow the Thin Line Rock Station:https://www.instagram.com/thethinlinerockstation/
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Episode 4 - The Next Shift with Jess Flores
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world. This week I'm joined by Jess Flores, a retired cop, LEOW, and mindset coach. Jess talks about her career, being involved in a critical incident, navigating her career in the aftermath, and an injury that transformed the trajectory of her life and gave her a new mission outside of law enforcement.Connect with Jess here:https://www.instagram.com/the_jessflores/https://www.instagram.com/_nextshift_/https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-flores-a53a10100/Connect with Dina:https://www.instagram.com/flawed_yet_faithful/https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod/https://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/
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Episode 3 - The 10-Minute Rule with Dr. Medina Baumgart
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.This week, I'm joined by Dr. Medina Baumgart, an agency embedded psychologist, LEOW, author of "Surviving Retirement" and host of the "We Carry This" podcast. Dr. Baumgart talks about her strategy of intentional loitering, what surprised her the most about police culture, and navigating her LEO husband's service retirement.Connect with Dr. Medina Baumgart here:Website: www.drbaumgart.cominstagram.com/dr_baumgartwww.linkedin.com/in/drbaumgart/https://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Retirement-Finding-Purpose-Fulfillment/dp/B0CB99HMVSConnect with Dina:IG: @flawed_yet_faithful, @outsidethelinepodFacebook: Dina CampbellLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell
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Episode 2 - Grief During the Holidays
Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world. The holidays can be heavy - especially for cops carrying the weight of grief beneath their uniform. In this solo episode, I talk about navigating grief during the holiday season while still showing up for the job, family, and everyone else who expects you to be "okay."This episode explores:Why grief often intensifies during the holidaysHow law enforcement culture shapes the ways we grieveWhy acknowledging grief is a sign of strengthGrounded, realistic ways to support yourself through the seasonIf the holidays feel different this year, this is a remind that you're not broken, you're not alone, and you don't have to carry it all by yourself.Listen in, take what you need, share with a friend, and remember - you're allowed to grieve and still be human.Let's connect:https://www.instagram.com/flawed_yet_faithful/https://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/
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Episode 1 - Welcome
Welcome to Outside The Line - a podcast dedicated to helping cops discover and develop an identity outside of the Thin Blue Line. In this episode I'll introduce myself, talk about my identity outside the job, and my experience being in therapy as an active-duty cop.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
You are more than a shield. Conversations about what keeps cops anchored to what really matters - life outside the thin blue line.
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Dina
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