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Rebel Mothers
by Susie Fishleder
"Rebel Mothers" challenges the stifling institution of modern motherhood and reclaims mothering as an act of liberation. Each episode we’ll explore the struggles and expectations mothers face in a world built to exploit them, unveil the systematic institutions that create these challenges, and develop strategies for dismantling these oppressive systems. We'll shed light on the intersectionality of motherhood, addressing the unique struggles faced by women of diverse backgrounds. And we’ll hear inspiring stories of fearless women who are redefining the narrative of motherhood.
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Interview with Katie B. Garner of IAMAS
Interview with Dr. Katie B. Garner, Executive Director of the International Association of Maternal Action and Scholarship (IAMAS) to talk about mothering, motherhood, carework, the field of motherhood studies and the upcoming 2025 conference: (Re-)Producing Motherhood, Motherwork, and Mothering. Topics: Submit abstracts for the 2025 IAMAS Conference HEREApply or nominate an individual or group for the Making Opportunities for Mothers in Academia (MOMA) Award HEREThe interdisciplinary nature of the field of motherhood studiesThe worth of a mother’s laborCarework, AI, technology Motherhood and caregiving as part of identity politicsThe rhetoric of choice that surrounds motherhood The motherhood wage gapResources:International Association of Maternal Action and Scholarship (IAMAS) websiteIAMAS on FacebookIAMAS on InstagramDr. Katie B. GarnerThe “Nanny” Question in Feminism by Joan C. TrontoCreating Supportive Spaces for Pregnant and Parenting College Students: Contemporary Understandings of Title IX Edited By Catherine L. Riley, Katie B. GarnerThe motherhood wage penalty: A meta-analysis
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Summer Break
Rebel Mothers will be taking a summer hiatus! Listen in to learn more about what Susie is working on during the break, including a new executive coaching certification program and enjoying more time with her kids. Stay in touch! Visit Susie on Instagram at @susie.fishleder and sign up for her occasional email newsletter, Motherhood Musings. Resources Mentioned:Gestalt International Study CenterInternational Association of Maternal Action and ScholarshipSusie Fishleder website
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Raising Boys in a Patriarchal Society
Today we explore the complexities of raising boys in a patriarchal society, diving deep into the origins of patriarchy, debunking common myths, and discussing its impact on both men and women.Topics: Introduction to patriarchyDefinition and historical context of patriarchy Evolution of patriarchal beliefs and their societal impactArguments against patriarchyHow patriarchy hurts men and boysStrategies for raising boys in a patriarchyResources:The Patriarchs: The Origins of Inequality by Angela Saini Whipping Girl: A Transsexual Woman on Sexism and the Scapegoating of Femininity by Julia SeranoFor the Love of Men: From Toxic to a More Mindful Masculinity by Liz PlankNote: Susie will be taking a summer break after this episode, but stay tuned for updates on her new project and more discussions on Rebel Mothers! To receive email updates, join her newsletter.
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Matricentric Feminism
Matricentric feminism, which is a huge theme of the Rebel Mothers podcast, centers on the experiences, perspectives, and voices of mothers within the broader feminist movement. In this episode, Susie discusses the definition of matricentric feminism, its importance in academia, public policy, and motherhood, as well as its pioneers and contemporary scholars.Topics: Definition of matricentric feminismImportance in academia, public policy, and motherhoodLineage and pioneers of the movement: Adrienne Rich, Sara Ruddick, bell hooks, Riane Eisler, Silvia Federici, Andrea O’ReillyChallenges faced by mothers under patriarchyExploration of motherhood within feminist discourseThe intersection of race, class, and motherhoodCritique of traditional notions of motherhoodAdvocacy for policy changes and workplace accommodationsRedefining success and fulfillment for womenQuestioning and challenging biological essentialismCreating inclusive and empowering approaches to motherhood studiesResources:All of these books, and more, are available on my Bookshop* "Matricentric Feminism: Theory, Activism, and Practice" by Andrea O’Reilly"Of Woman Born: Motherhood as Experience and Institution" by Adrienne Rich"Maternal Thinking: Toward a Politics of Peace" by Sara Ruddick"Feminist Theory: From Margin to Center" by bell hooks"The Chalice and the Blade: Our History, Our Future,” by Riane Eisler"Caliban and the Witch: Women, the Body and Primitive Accumulation" by Silvia FedericiKey facts about moms in the U.S. for Mother’s Day Modern Parenthood | Pew Research CenterHow Parenting Today Is Different, and Harder - The New York Times*Disclosure: I am an affiliate of Bookshop.org and I will earn a small commission at no cost to you if you click through and make a purchase.
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Eleanor Roosevelt
Listen to the remarkable life and legacy of Eleanor Roosevelt, a true trailblazer of the 20th century. From her early challenges and insecurities to her groundbreaking activism and leadership as First Lady of the United States, Eleanor's impact on women and mothers continues to resonate today. Susie explores Eleanor's role as a champion for social justice, civil rights, and human rights, highlighting her efforts to create positive change and empower marginalized communities. Despite facing personal struggles, Eleanor's dedication to public service and her unwavering commitment to equality serve as an inspiration for women and mothers everywhere.Topics: Eleanor Roosevelt's early life and influencesHer groundbreaking activism and leadership as First LadyAdvocacy for social justice, civil rights, and women's empowermentLegacy and impact on women and mothersChallenges and complexities of her role as a wife and motherResources:The Autobiography of Eleanor Roosevelt by Eleanor Roosevelt No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II by Doris Kearns Goodwinhttps://web.archive.org/web/20130322023854/http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/1011.htmlThe Sad Truth About Franklin And Eleanor Roosevelt's MarriageEleanor Roosevelt National Historic Site (U.S. National Park Service)Eleanor Roosevelt's Unprecedented Activism—From Inside the White House | HISTORYIt's Up to the Women: Eleanor Roosevelt, Women’s Politics, and Human Rights Franklin & Eleanor's Children | Grateful American Foundation
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Wine Mom Culture: Alcohol, Patriarchy, and Motherhood
Why does wine and motherhood seem ubiquitous these days? In this thought-provoking episode, Susie dives into the complex intersection of alcohol, the patriarchy, and motherhood. Drawing on historical perspectives, societal norms, and personal anecdotes, she explores the evolution of women's relationship with alcohol, the rise of "mommy wine culture," and the detrimental effects of alcohol consumption on maternal well-being. Through discussions on Holly Whitaker's insights and personal reflections, Susie challenges traditional notions of alcoholism and offers empowering perspectives on reevaluating one's relationship with alcohol. Ultimately, she advocates for reframing societal norms and prioritizing the holistic health of women and mothers.Topics: Historical role of women in brewing and alcohol consumptionSocietal shifts leading to the stigmatization of female drinkingWomen's participation in the temperance movement and prohibitionRise of "mommy wine culture" and its impact on modern motherhoodExamination of alcohol marketing targeted at women as a form of feminist rebellionInsights from Holly Whitaker's perspective on alcoholism and sobriety in the book Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed With AlcoholPersonal anecdotes and reflections on Susie's journey with alcoholStrategies for examining and potentially altering one's relationship with alcoholResources:Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed With Alcohol by HOLLY WHITAKERAlcoholic beverages industry in the U.S. - Statistics & Facts | StatistaExcessive Alcohol Use and Risks to Women's Health | CDC Women and AlcoholMeme Girls: The Wine Mom Phenomenon Speaks VolumesWomen Led the Temperance Charge – Prohibition: An Interactive HistoryWhat’s Behind the Growth in Alcohol Consumption? - The New York TimesOrganizations for people who want to quit drinking:Sober MommiesAlcoholics Anonymous (AA)SMART RecoveryWomen for Sobriety (WFS) National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA)
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The Motherhood Revolution: Workshop Replay
Susie replays a 2023 workshop called "The Motherhood Revolution." Learn more at https://www.susiefishleder.com/events Topics include:Establishing the difference between mothering and motherhood and the cultural systems that affect bothRecognizing how the act of mothering is a path to self-actualization and empowerment…a practice that not only nourishes the mother, but elevates the entire familyUnderstanding the difference between dominator and partnership family models…and how to move from one to the other
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Rethinking the Economics of Motherhood: Alternative Economies
Let’s explore the historical and contemporary economic systems and their impact on motherhood! Starting with an overview of capitalism, socialism, and communism, Susie exposes the inherent flaws in these systems and proposes alternative paradigms like the gift economy and the sharing economy. Through an exploration of different economic models, she highlights the challenges and opportunities for mothers in various economic systems and emphasizes the importance of prioritizing human flourishing and caregiving in economic discourse.Topics: Overview of capitalism, socialism, and communismImpact of traditional economic systems on motherhoodIntroduction to alternative economic paradigms: the gift economy and the sharing economyBenefits and challenges of alternative economic systems for mothersReimagining economics through the lens of human flourishing and caregivingHistorical context of economic theories and their implications for gender and race equalityCritique of mainstream economic models and their failure to prioritize caregiving and human developmentResources:Rebel Mothers Episode 6 Invisible Labor: The Mental LoadThe Wealth of Nations by Adam SmithReal Wealth of Nations by Riane EislerThe Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State by Friedrich Engles
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Economics of Motherhood: The Hidden Costs of the Most Important Job
In the first of this two-part series on the economics of motherhood, Susie examines the cost of motherhood through the life story of a fictional mother in the United States, Emily, who faces the financial struggles and worries that many mothers face today. Stay tuned for next week when Susie explores some alternative economic systems and how those might shape motherhood.Topics: Introduction to the Economics of MotherhoodEmily's Story: A Journey Through Motherhood and Economic ChallengesHealthcare Expenses and Lack of Paid Maternity LeaveThe Impact of Childcare CostsIncome Disparities and the Motherhood PenaltyRetirement Savings and Social Security BenefitsThe Influence of the Baby Industrial ComplexAnalysis of Emily's Story: Highlighting Key Economic FactorsHealthcare: Comparing US Costs to Other CountriesChildcare: Availability, Affordability, and Quality of CareIncome and Wage Disparities: Gender Wage Gap and Motherhood PenaltyRetirement: Impact of Career Interruptions on Retirement SavingsThe Baby Industrial Complex: Pressure on Parents to ConsumeReflections on Capitalism and Alternative Economic SystemsConclusion: Recognizing the Intersections of Motherhood and EconomicsResources:Rebel Mothers Episode 6 Invisible Labor: The Mental LoadGlobal care chains, refugee crisis, and deskilling of workers | Exploring EconomicsAverage Student Loan Debt By Year (Graduating Class) Baby care market in the US - statistics & factsFatherhood bonus - Wikipediahttps://blog.dol.gov/2023/01/24/new-childcare-data-shows-prices-are-untenable-for-familiesGender Pay Gap Statistics In [Year] – Forbes AdvisorArticle: "How the world’s falling birthrate is leading to economic catastrophe" FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act)Kindergeld (Child Benefit) and Parental Allowance in GermanyBaby Box program in Finland Why Finnish babies sleep in cardboard boxes - BBC News
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Jenny Marx
Today we discuss the life of Jenny Marx, wife of Karl Marx, whose influence on the socialist movement is often overshadowed. From her aristocratic upbringing to her pivotal role in shaping the ideas that would change the world, Jenny's journey is one of resilience, commitment, and unwavering dedication to the emancipation of the working class. We explore her early years, her relationship with Karl, and the challenges they faced together, including poverty, exile, and personal tragedies. Through it all, Jenny remained a steadfast supporter of Karl's work, and deeply in love with the man behind the ideas. Her legacy as a feminist and revolutionary thinker continues to inspire activism and resistance to this day.Topics: Early life and upbringing of Jenny von WestphalenRelationship with Karl Marx and their marriageJenny's support for Karl's work and involvement in the socialist movementChallenges faced by the Marx family, including poverty, exile, and personal tragediesJenny's role as a mother and activistResources:Love and Capital: Karl and Jenny Marx and the Birth of a Revolution, by Mary Gabriel The Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844 and The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich EngelsCapital: Critique of Political Economy, Volume I by Karl Marx
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Spring break updates!
Susie is on spring break with her family this week, so this quick update offers some upcoming episode ideas, including anger in motherhood, managing transitions, white mothers, maternal ambivalence, mothers and sex, and more.What do YOU want to hear about on Rebel Mothers? Email [email protected] with ideas and suggestions
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Maternal Activism
Maternal activism is a specific form of activism that is focused on addressing issues that impact mothers, children, and families within their communities and society at large. Susie breaks down why we don't usually hear this term used, the pros and cons of centering mothers in activism, and highlights the diverse forms of activism engaged in by mothers from different backgrounds. The episode emphasizes how maternal activism intertwines with broader social justice issues and challenges societal norms to advocate for mothers and their families.Topics CoveredDefining Maternal Activism: Susie examines the seeming contradiction between 'maternal' and 'activism', debunking stereotypes and exploring the history of mothers in social movements.Successful Maternal Activism Case Studies: In-depth analysis of organizations like Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense and Black Mamas Matter Alliance, exploring their strategies and successes.Analysis of Unsuccessful Activism: A critical look at the Wall of Moms movement, understanding its pitfalls and lessons learned.Intersectionality in Maternal Activism: Exploration of how maternal activism intersects with anti-racism, LGBTQ rights, and environmental issues.What Makes Maternal Activism Successful: Storytelling, community, creating agency and authority for mothers, cooperation, and uplifting and taking initiative from historically marginalized mothersResources MentionedInternational Association for Maternal Action & Scholarship (IAMAS)From Maternalism to Activist Mothering | Semantic ScholarStories - Moms Demand ActionAbout Us - Black Mamas Matter AllianceThe Wall of Moms Got Your Attention, but Mothers Have Always Been Fighting for ChangeTen Questions For: Shannon Watts - Jill Filipovic September 5, 2023. Angela Aina - Black Mamas Matter Alliance - The Black Information Network Daily Podcast - Omny.fmThe Complicated Rise and Swift Fall of Portland's Wall of Moms Protest GroupKilling the Black Body: Race, Reproduction and the Meaning of Liberty By Dorothy RobertsJoin my newsletter to be the first to hear about new episodes! Sign up for Motherhood Musings today
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Motherhood as Enlightenment
In this episode of Rebel Mothers, Susie takes the audience on a journey to explore the concept of motherhood as enlightenment. She reflects on her own experiences and the parallels between motherhood and spiritual traditions. Susie challenges the societal norms and beliefs around motherhood and presents it as a path to spiritual growth and awakening.Topics: Spiritual experience of motherhoodSocietal challenges and pressures faced by mothers, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic.Reframing motherhood as a spiritual path to empowerment and enlightenment.Expanding the definition of motherhood to include anyone engaged in nurturing and raising children.Differentiating motherhood as a spiritual path from essentialist narratives.The spiritual parallels between motherhood and various spiritual traditions, including acts of selfless service, being present, and releasing the ego.The societal isolation of mothers and the need for systemic support.The intersection of motherhood as a spiritual path with social justice and the importance of continuous learning and growth.Resources:Bhagavad Gita A New Translation by Stephen Mitchell- The ancient text that mentions Karma Yoga as a path to enlightenment through selfless service.Karma Yoga: The Yoga of Action by Swami Vivekananda - A book exploring the concept of Karma Yoga.The Conscious Parent: Transforming Ourselves, Empowering Our Children by Dr. Shefali Tsabary - A book discussing conscious parenting and releasing the ego.Wherever You Go, There You Are by Jon Kabat-Zinn - A classic book on mindfulness and living in the present moment.
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Radical Mother Love
A mother’s love is often romanticized and idealized, but really, radical mother love is an opportunity to challenge traditional motherhood norms and dismantle larger systems of oppression. The discussion ranges from expanding the definition of motherhood beyond the normative mother and family to embracing the complexities of maternal ambivalence and the radical nature of mother love in uplifting and supporting all children and families.Topics: Expanding Motherhood Definitions: Discussion on moving beyond the stereotypical image of a white, middle-class, heterosexual, nuclear family mother.Diversity in Motherhood: Examining how race, class, sexuality, and non-traditional family structures like chosen families and non-biological mothers contribute to a richer understanding of motherhood.Nuclear Family Critique: Exploring the history and socio-economic influences of the nuclear family model and its impact on societal norms.Maternal Ambivalence: Addressing the complex and often contradictory emotions mothers experience in their caregiving roles.Radical Mother Love: Discussing how maternal love can be a revolutionary force, with examples from activists who embody this concept.Maternal Activism: Linking radical mother love with movements like Moms Demand Action and Free Mom Hugs.Challenging Traditional Motherhood Norms: How redefining mother love and motherhood challenges oppressive systems like patriarchy, capitalism, and white supremacy.Resources:O'Reilly, Andrea, and Association for Research on Mothering. Mother Matters: Motherhood As Discourse and Practice : Essays from the Journal of the Association for Research on Mothering. Toronto: Association for Research on Mothering, 2004, 22. Revolutionary Mothering: Love on the Front Line by Alexis Pauline Gumbs, China Martens and Mai'a WilliamsCollins, P.H. (1998). It’s All in the Family: Intersections of Gender, Race, and Nation. Hypatia. Summer Vol. 13, No.3. 62-82.Data mentioned in podcast came from the following sources:Families in the United States - Statistics & Facts | StatistaFastStats - Teen BirthsPrevalence of Parents with Disabilities in the United States | The Heller School U.S. Census Bureau Releases CPS Estimates of Same-Sex HouseholdsPoverty in the United States: 2022
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Boundaries in Motherhood
Today we explore boundaries in motherhood: exploring how boundaries help create a sense of personal agency and autonomy, emphasizing their role in empowering women, and finding a balance between individualism and collective well-being. This episode highlights the challenges mothers face in setting boundaries with their children, and offers guidance on setting boundaries as a way to reclaim our time, energy, and purpose.Topics: Boundaries in motherhoodPersonal agency and autonomy for womenBalancing individualism and collective well-beingChallenges of setting boundaries with childrenFeminist perspective on boundariesUsing values when determining boundariesMotherhood as empowermentResources:Philosophical conceptions of the self: implications for cognitive scienceSign up for my monthly newsletter by visiting www.susiefishleder.com for more content like this!
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Matrescence: Birth & Postpartum Healing
In the second part of this two-part series, Susie focuses on rewriting birth narratives for peace, strength, and agency. Susie shares her personal journey of healing and empowerment after challenging birthing experiences, emphasizing the societal pressures of the myth of the perfect mother and its impact on maternal well-being. Drawing from Robbie Davis-Floyd's insights, the episode discusses the importance of self-reflection, body practices, and positive affirmations in the healing process. Susie also highlights the significance of support, both in sharing birth stories and engaging in practices that release stored emotions. Topics Included: Matrescence journey and its impact on motherhoodRewriting birth narratives for healing and empowermentSocietal pressures and the myth of the perfect motherSelf-reflection and positive affirmationsSupportive practices for emotional releaseEmbracing the diversity of birth stories and finding validation in unique journeysResources:Robbie Davis-Floyd, Birth as an American Rite of PassageRob Horowitz & Pam England, Birthing from WithinMaternal and Newborn Care in the United States - Birth Settings in America - NCBI BookshelfInclusive and Gender-Neutral Language | National Institutes of Health (NIH)Birth Centers are GrowingThe Birth Trauma AssociationTrauma Center Trauma Sensitive YogaPostpartum Support InternationalInternational Cesarean Awareness NetworkBlack Mamas Matter: Advocacy organization focused on black maternal health, rights, and justice.Ancient Song Doula Services : Provides full-spectrum doula services with a focus on communities of color.Sister Song: Southern based, national membership organization; our purpose is to build an effective network of individuals and organizations to improve institutional policies and systems that impact the reproductive lives of marginalized communities.https://www.nativechildbirth.org/ NICA provides resources, education, and support for Native American families throughout the childbirth journey.Reproductive Justice Program - Welcome to NATIVESHOP.ORG :This center focuses on promoting the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual well-being of Native American women, including maternal health.Women's Health | Indian Health Service (IHS) The Indian Health Service offers resources specific to women's health, including maternal health, with a focus on culturally competent care.Family Equality : Advocacy group supporting LGBTQ+ families.PFLAG : Provides support and resources for LGBTQ+ individuals and their families.Disabled Parenting Project : A community for disabled parents providing resources, support, and information.https://lookingglass.org/ : A nonprofit organization that provides resources for families where a child, parent, or grandparent has a disability.
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Matrescence: Birth as an American Rite of Passage
In part one of this two-part series on matrescence, Susie explores the transformative concept of matrescence. Drawing on insights from Dr. Aurélie Athan and Robbie Davis-Floyd's "Birth as an American Rite of Passage," Susie unpacks the stages of matrescence, comparing it to adolescence and emphasizing the need for empathy and celebration in this unique journey. She draws parallels between the classic elements of a rite of passage and matrescence. She gives globally diverse examples of birthing rituals and sheds light on how hospital births in America have unintentionally adopted rituals that emphasize society’s patriarchal core values.Topics Included: Matrescence definition and stagesMatrescence vs. adolescenceGlobal birthing ritualsHospital births in AmericaRite of passage stages: separation, transition, integrationCultural variations in matrescence celebrationsRewriting matrescence narratives for healingMarginalized identities in matrescenceTransgender and LGBTQ+ maternal experiencesMatrescence for Black womenMatrescence for disabled mothersHealing from difficult birth experiencesSupport resources for diverse maternal journeysResources:Robbie Davis-Floyd, Birth as an American Rite of PassageRob Horowitz & Pam England, Birthing from WithinMaternal and Newborn Care in the United States - Birth Settings in America - NCBI BookshelfInclusive and Gender-Neutral Language | National Institutes of Health (NIH)Birth Centers are GrowingThe Birth Trauma AssociationTrauma Center Trauma Sensitive YogaPostpartum Support InternationalInternational Cesarean Awareness NetworkBlack Mamas Matter: Advocacy organization focused on black maternal health, rights, and justice.Ancient Song Doula Services : Provides full-spectrum doula services with a focus on communities of color.Sister Song: Southern based, national membership organization; our purpose is to build an effective network of individuals and organizations to improve institutional policies and systems that impact the reproductive lives of marginalized communities.https://www.nativechildbirth.org/ NICA provides resources, education, and support for Native American families throughout the childbirth journey.Reproductive Justice Program - Welcome to NATIVESHOP.ORG :This center focuses on promoting the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual well-being of Native American women, including maternal health.Women's Health | Indian Health Service (IHS) The Indian Health Service offers resources specific to women's health, including maternal health, with a focus on culturally competent care.Family Equality : Advocacy group supporting LGBTQ+ families.PFLAG : Provides support and resources for LGBTQ+ individuals and their families.Disabled Parenting Project : A community for disabled parents providing resources, support, and information.https://lookingglass.org/ : A nonprofit organization that provides resources for families where a child, parent, or grandparent has a disability.
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Motherline: Reclaiming Women's Stories
Susie discusses the motherline (matrilineal ancestry) and the importance of women’s stories. Navigating through historical struggles, ancient goddess cultures, and societal shifts, Susie invites listeners to reclaim the stories of women that have been obscured, stolen, or silenced. Join the journey of exploration and empowerment as we reimagine narratives and contribute to a paradigm shift in the broader motherhood revolution. Topics: Historical Struggles of Women's VoicesImpact of Narratives like the Story of EveAncient Goddess Cultures: Catalhoyuk and Marija GimbutasTransition from Matrilineal to Patrilineal Societies3 Steps for Reclaiming Personal the MotherlineStep 1: Reflect on your own narrativeStep 2: Motherline Meditation: A Tool for Intuitive ConnectionStep 3: Telling Our Own Stories as a Revolutionary ActContribution to the Broader Motherhood RevolutionResources:Cassandra Speaks: When Women are the Storytellers, the Human Story Changes by Elizabeth LesserCaliban and the Witch by Silvia FedericiWhen the Drummers were Women by Layne RedmondOf Woman Born by Adrienne RichArcheologist suggests much of Paleolithic cave art was done by womenHistorical Sites: Catalhoyuk - Archaeological Evidence of Goddess WorshipScholar: Marija Gimbutas - Pioneer in ArchaeomythologyIs this helping me become the good ancestor I want to become?
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Becoming a Momrade! With Mexie & Susie Fishleder
This episode is an interview Susie did with Mexie from Total Liberation in the spring of 2023. Susie & Mexie discuss how capitalism, patriarchy, and white supremacy shape the institution of motherhood and harm people who take on the work of mothering. We end with discussing what a motherhood revolution could look like and how it would dovetail with a broader societal revolution.Sources and LinksTotal Liberation Podcast: https://totalliberationpodcast.com/Mexie on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MexiePositive Leftist News: https://www.youtube.com/c/PLN_mexSilvia Federici, Caliban and the Witch: https://www.akpress.org/calibanandthewitch.htmlKimberly Sears Allers, The Big Let Down: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250026965/thebigletdownResmaa Menakem, My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the mending of Our Bodies and Hearts: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/34146782D. Memee Lavell-Harvard and Kim Anderson, Mother of the Nations: Indigenous Mothering as Global Resistance, Reclaiming and Recovering: https://demeterpress.org/books/mothers-of-the-nations-indigenous-mothering-as-global-resistance-reclaiming-and-recovery/Alexis Pauline Gumbs, China Martens, and Mai’a Williams (editors), Revolutionary Mothering: Love on the Front Lines: https://www.pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=746Layla F. Saad, Me and White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor: http://laylafsaad.com/meandwhitesupremacyIbram X. Kendi, How to Raise an Antiracist: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/671925/how-to-raise-an-antiracist-by-ibram-x-kendi/Dorothy Roberts, Killing the Black Body: Race, Reproduction, and the Meaning of Liberty: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/155575/killing-the-black-body-by-dorothy-roberts/
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Partnership Families
In this episode of Rebel Mothers, we explored Riane Eisler's paradigm-shifting concepts of dominator and partnership societies, applying them to the context of our own families. Eisler's model, rooted in historical evidence and cultural practices, offers a spectrum approach to understanding societal structures. Focusing on family and childhood relations within the dominator and partnership systems, we discussed actionable steps to nurture a partnership family, emphasizing democratic decision-making and equal partnerships. Eisler's work goes beyond critique, providing a blueprint for transformative change, with broader societal implications—shaping empathetic citizens, addressing racism, and preparing children for the demands of the 21st-century economy. The episode concludes with the recognition that implementing partnership values in our families contributes to creating a compassionate and egalitarian society, with ripple effects extending far beyond our homes.Topics Included:- Dominator and partnership societies- Historical precedent and societies- Eisler's four cornerstones for societal shift- Dominator and partnership families- Hierarchies of domination vs. hierarchies of actualization- Actions for nurturing a partnership family- Resources for implementing partnership principles- Impact of partnership families on the worldResources Mentioned:’Caring and Connected Parenting GuideThe Center for Partnership Systems8 C's of Partnership FamiliesAdrienne Rich, Of Woman Born: Motherhood as Institution and ExperienceRiane Eisler, Real Wealth of Nations
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Merry Christmas greeting!
Merry Christmas! In this “Christmas Card” episode of Rebel Mothers, Susie celebrates the milestone of reaching the 10th episode. Reflecting on the journey so far, she shares the joys and challenges of podcasting and gratitude for the supportive messages and interactions from listeners. Topics Covered:The significance of reaching the 10th episode milestone.Ways to support Rebel Mothers, including sharing episodes and leaving reviews.Overview of the MotherBLOOM coaching program's structure and steps.Special offer: 50% off the MotherBLOOM coaching program until December 31, 2023.Resources Mentioned:MotherBLOOM Coaching - only 3 spots left for the first quarter of 2024!Email [email protected] for questions Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas season and a Happy New Year!!
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Seasons of Motherhood: Winter
In this episode of Rebel Mothers, Susie explores the metaphor of seasons in motherhood, shedding light on how the different seasons—spring, summer, fall, and winter—correspond to various stages of a mother's journey. She focuses on the unique experiences and emotions experienced in the winter of motherhood, including the personal story of her own miscarriage, and offers relatable examples and insights. Topics: Seasons of motherhoodSpring: New beginnings, matrescence, early motherhood, blended familiesSummer: Growth and nurturing, active parenting, challenges and joys of school-age children, balancing work and family liveFall: Letting go, transition to children gaining independence, major life changesWinter: Rest, and renewal, empty nest transition, bereavement and grief, wonderment and reflection of mothering journeyResources:Dusty Hewit, Long Run Communications
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Mary, (Rebel) Mother of Jesus
In this special Christmas episode, Susie explores the life of Mary, the mother of Jesus, looking at her as a symbol of motherhood and what that means for modern mothers. We discuss her reverence in Christianity and Islam, her experience as a real-life mother, and her significance in various social justice issues, including interfaith cooperation, immigration reform, classism, feminism, and anti-racism. Mary's multifaceted role as both a symbol and a historical mother is examined, focusing on her empowerment and resilience in the face of adversity.Topics Include:Introduction to Mary as a symbol of motherhoodMary’s significance in Christianity and Islam and her relevance to modern mothers.Mary’s perspective of Jesus’ life through her eyes as a real-life motherThe challenges and struggles Mary might have faced as an unwed teenager with an unexpected pregnancyMary’s seven sorrows as a motherIntersection of Mary’s story with social justice issues, including interfaith cooperation, immigration and refugee concerns, classism, racism, and feminismMary as a symbol of female empowerment, consent, and resilience who celebrates the diverse experiences of motherhood.Mary's depiction as a Black MadonnaThe fusion of Mary with indigenous goddesses and African spiritual traditions.Mary as a rebel mother who continues to have a profound impact on women’s livesResources Mentioned: 2022 Report: Homicide leading cause of death for pregnant women in U.S. | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health2021 Study: The Pregnancy-Related Mortality Impact of a Total Abortion Ban in the United States: A Research Note on Increased Deaths Due to Remaining PregnantBlack Madonna - WikipediaSecret Life of Bees by Sue Monk Kidd"Jesus and Mary Dance with the Orishas" by Clara Luz Ajo Lazaro in Hope Abundant: Third World and Indigenous Women’s Theology (PDF) From Majesty to Mystery: Change in the Meanings of Black Madonnas from the Sixteenth to Nineteenth Centuries | Monique Scheer - Academia.eduDr. Christine Dennis - Mothers Seeking Transformation
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Invisible Labor: Emotional Labor
Get your free PDF copy of the Mental Load in Parenting checklist!In Part Two of this Invisible Labor series, Susie discusses the invisible and emotionally taxing work that mothers undertake in the realm of emotional labor. She debunks the misconception that emotional labor is gender-specific and explores how societal conditioning has led to mothers taking on this role, while also discussing ways to make it more manageable and equitable. Topics Include:Defining emotional labor in motherhoodSocietal expectations of mothersEmotional labor in attachment parenting, gentle communication, breaking generational trauma, and moreA class and race bases analysis on invisible, mental, and emotional laborThe impact of patriarchy on men and emotional laborPractical strategies for equal partnershipResources Mentioned:2019 Study Invisible Household Labor and Ramifications for Adjustment: Mothers as Captains of HouseholdsNational Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 or visit www.thehotline.orgSilvia Federici, Wages for Housework. Liz Plank, For the Love of Menbell hooks, Feminist Theory: From Margin to CenterEve Rodsky, Fair Play
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Invisible Labor: The Mental Load
Get your free PDF copy of the Mental Load in Parenting checklist!In Part One of this two-part series, Susie dive deep into a critical topic: The Mental Load of Motherhood. The mental load of motherhood is a hidden yet profound aspect of women's lives. It encompasses the cognitive labor of planning, organizing, and anticipating everything required to raise children and manage a household. This invisible labor, predominantly carried by women, has deep historical roots and serves as the underpinning of both patriarchy and the capitalist system.In this episode, Susie highlights the importance of advocating for change on a collective level and encouraging equitable partnerships with men sharing domestic labor. On an individual level, she emphasizes the necessity of open and respectful conversations between mothers and their partners about the division of invisible labor and the mental load. These conversations are pivotal for prioritizing mothers' mental well-being and creating a more balanced and harmonious family life. As rebel mothers, it's our duty to challenge traditional gender norms and pave the way for a brighter future.Topics Include:Understanding invisible laborUnpacking the mental loadHow patriarchy and capitalism create and sustain the mental load in motherhoodEasing the mental loadHow to initiate a conversation with your partnerResources Mentioned:2019 Study Invisible Household Labor and Ramifications for Adjustment: Mothers as Captains of HouseholdsNational Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 or visit www.thehotline.orgSilvia Federici, Wages for Housework. Liz Plank, For the Love of Menbell hooks, Feminist Theory: From Margin to CenterEve Rodsky, Fair PlayDisclosure: I am an affiliate of Bookshop.org and I will earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase.
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Mom Guilt During the Holidays
Susie talks about the phenomenon of “mom guilt,” especially as it shows up in the holidays. She discusses the nuances of mom guilt and distinguishes it from regular guilt. Plus she uncovers its roots in patriarchal norms, and discusses strategies for addressing and overcoming this complex emotion.Topics:What is mom guilt and how does it differ from regular guilt?The unique pressure on mothers expected to be the primary caregivers and nurturers How mom guilt serves the patriarchyHow does mom guilt show up during the holiday seasonStrategies for addressing mom guilt:Get organizedKnow your valuesPractice mindfulness and bodyfulnessGet honest with yourself about what needs to stay and what needs to goYou might have to say no and disappoint peopleYou don’t need to be the maker of all the memories Resources:Shame on You: An Analysis of Guilt-Based Advertising Strategies Directed at ParentsBodyfulness: Somatic Practices for Presence, Empowerment, and Waking Up in This Life by Christine CaldwellRebel Mothers is brought to you by MotherBLOOM coaching. Learn more at www.mymotherbloom.com and join the motherhood revolution!
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Coretta Scott King
Welcome to a special episode of Rebel Mothers where Susie does a deep dive into the extraordinary life of a REAL rebel mother: Coretta Scott King, a woman who defied expectations and used her motherhood as a source of strength in her fight for justice and equality. From the racially segregated Alabama of her youth to becoming an iconic civil rights leader and activist in her own right, Coretta is an inspiration for maternal activists everywhere. Topics Include:Coretta Scott King early life and educationMarriage to Martin Luther King, Jr. Evolving role of Black women in the 1950s, balancing domestic responsibilities with activism.Coretta’s experiences during the Montgomery Bus BoycottCoretta's multiples roles as a mother, wife, activist, and singerCoretta’s many accomplishments, which includes establishing The Martin Luther King Jr. Center for Nonviolent Social Change, securing Martin Luther King Jr. Day as a national holiday, advocacy for women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and worker's rights, and her legacy as both a mother and a relentless advocate for justice, equality, and nonviolenceResources:Coretta: My Life, My Love, My Legacy by Coretta Scott King with the Reverend Dr. Barbara ReynoldsThank you for joining us in this episode of "Rebel Mothers." Stay tuned for more stories of extraordinary women who dared to challenge the status quo and shape the world in their own unique ways. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, rate, and leave a review. Your feedback is valuable as we continue to explore the lives and legacies of remarkable rebel mothers.
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Identity Loss: Why You Lose Yourself in Motherhood
Susie goes deep into a common topic that resonates with many mothers – the journey of losing, and rediscovering, one's identity in the context of motherhood. It's a story that many mothers share, but it's one that society doesn't often pause to truly understand, because it's more than just losing your identity: it means identifying the systematic inequalities that many mothers face.Topics include:What your identity is and how it is formedMatrescence, which is the transition into motherhoodWhy you lose your identity in motherhood (spoiler alert, it's not your fault!)Actions you can take to regain a sense of selfThank you for listening! Remember to subscribe, share, and leave a review if you enjoyed this episode.
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Mothering vs Motherhood
Susie explores the significance of the language used to describe motherhood, and how our words shape societal expectations of what it means to be a mother. Topics include:The complexity of motherhood language, including addressing issues of gender, race, class, location, ability, and moreStruggles and responsibilities of using inclusive and non-stereotypical language and balancing empowerment with avoiding romanticization and sexist stereotypesDefining mothering vs motherhood, examples of how systems of patriarchy, whiteness, and capitalism affect the motherhood experience, and the difference between dominator and partnership family modelsInsights on mothering from scholars like Sara Ruddick, Adrienne Rich, Andrea O'Reilly, and Patricia Hill Collins Resources mentioned:Sara Ruddick, Maternal Thinking: Toward a Politics of PeaceAdrienne Rich, Of Woman Born: Motherhood as Experience and InstitutionAndrea O’Reilly, Matricentric Feminism: Theory, Activism, PracticePatricia Hill Collins, Shifting the Center: Race, Class, and Feminist Theorizing About Motherhood, from the book Mothering: Ideology, Experience, and AgencyCenter for Partnership Systems Thank you for listening! Remember to subscribe, share, and leave a review if you enjoyed this episode!
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Welcome and Introduction
Welcome to the premiere episode of Rebel Mothers! In today’s episode, Susie gives more background context to who she is, why this podcast came to be in existence, and what you can expect in episodes to come.Topics include:Personal backstoryThe difference between motherhood as an institution and mothering as an act of liberationWhat you can expect in episodes to comeResources mentioned:Layla F. Saad, "I need to talk to spiritual white women about white supremacy (Part One)"Be sure to subscribe to the show so you don't miss any of the upcoming episodes! Newsletter subscribers also get a sneak peek a few days before the episode is released...click here to receive Susie's weekly newsletter: Motherhood Musings
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Rebel Mothers Trailer
Motherhood has been used to oppress and exploit women for centuries. But it doesn’t have to be this way, and as mothers, we’re ready for a revolution. We love our kids, but we struggle with losing our identities, bearing the weight of motherhood without enough support, and striving to meet the impossible standards of what it means to be a ‘good’ mother. It’s time to openly discuss how motherhood is deeply affected by patriarchy, racism, and capitalism so that we can break free of these systems. As mothers, we know our work is valuable and has radical potential to birth a more equitable and inclusive future for ourselves and our children.Welcome to the Rebel Mothers podcast. I’m your host, Susie Fishleder, and together we’ll explore the challenges of modern motherhood and reclaim mothering as an act of liberation. Learn more at www.susiefishleder.com
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
"Rebel Mothers" challenges the stifling institution of modern motherhood and reclaims mothering as an act of liberation. Each episode we’ll explore the struggles and expectations mothers face in a world built to exploit them, unveil the systematic institutions that create these challenges, and develop strategies for dismantling these oppressive systems. We'll shed light on the intersectionality of motherhood, addressing the unique struggles faced by women of diverse backgrounds. And we’ll hear inspiring stories of fearless women who are redefining the narrative of motherhood.
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Susie Fishleder
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