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Science In-Between
by Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon
This is a conversation about how science teaching can move between and connect different worlds.
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Episode 304: Authentic Nugget Farming
This week we talk about the idea of authenticity in science education (and more generally) and why it matters in education, particularly in terms of science practices. Our episode about Situated Cognition Brown, J. S., Collins, A., & Duguid, P. (1989). Situated Cognition and the Culture of Learning. Educational Researcher, 18(1), 32-42. Things that bring us joy this week: Scene on Radio - The News Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 303: Examining the Harms of AI
In this episode, we share ideas from the Inside Higher Education article titled, A Taxonomy of Harm for the AI Age by Paul Corrigan. Things that bring us joy this week: Live Music World Cup Soccer Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 302: Not the Explorer
This week we talk about how research gets valued, and specifically the Declaration on Research Assessment (DORA) and the idea of impact and impact factors. Things that bring us joy this week: World Cup Soccer The Devils by Joe Abercrombie Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 301: Chatting with ChatGPT
In this episode, we answer questions that ChatGPT has generated based on our podcast. Things that bring us joy this week: Advice for New Fauclty Members by Robert Boice Wrexham vs Sunderland Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 300: Simulacrum of Passing Gas
This week we celebrate our 300th episode by looking back at how it all began, how our focus remains on how people learn and then going many places you would not expect (as usual). Things that bring us joy this week: Summer Festival Season Meeting the Universe Halfway: Quantum Physics and the Entanglement of Matter and Meaning by Karen Barad Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 299: A More Perfect Union
In this episode, we revisit the unionization efforts at Penn State University. Things that bring us joy this week: Welcome to Wrexham Project Hail Mary Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 298: Dewey Have to Joke?
This week we talk about the surprisingly prescient article from John Dewey in Science Education from 1916. Why did we not listen to him? Things that bring us joy this week: Season 1 of Doctor Who on Tubi All the Water in the World by Eiren Caffall Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 297: Commencing to Speak
In this episode, we discuss what makes a good commencement speech. Things that bring us joy this week: Reformer Pilates Wolf Hour by Jo Nesbo Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 296: Flexible Fairness
This week we talk about the tension between fairness and flexibility when deciding about what kind of work people do and how we count it. Things that bring us joy this week: Noah Kahan Out of Body on Netflix and The Great Divide Glyph Word Game Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 295: Centering Humans with Technology
In this episode, we discuss an article that outlines a framework for examining human-centered technology. Article: Guest, O. (2026). What Does ‘Human-Centred AI’ Mean? Behavioral Sciences, 16(4), 583. https://doi.org/10.3390/bs16040583 Things that bring us joy this week: Big Mistakes Day of the Jackal Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 294: Badgeless in Seattle
This week we talk about deficit framing that researchers and teachers often take when doing their work. Framing students in terms of what they don't know instead of what they do know. Things that bring us joy this week: Detective Hole on Netflix Altered Carbon on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 293: Professional Noticing
In this episode, we meet with Dr. Brett Criswell from West Chester University to discuss "professional noticing." Brett references his recent article in the New Educator. Some other books Brett references include: The Art of Noticing by Rob Walker On Looking by Alexandra Horowitz Slow Looking by Shari Tishman Objectivity by Lorraine Daston and Peter Galison Skilled Vision by Cristina Grasseni Things that bring us joy this week: The Great Upheaval An Evening with Alton Brown Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally BlindSpecial Guest: Brett Criswell.
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Episode 292: Not Flying In
The week we talk about scaling/impact, in other words how we think about innovation moving across educational systems. Things that bring us joy this week: Automated Ball-Strike Challenge System in Baseball Michigan Basketball (Now National Champions!) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 291: Pedgagogical Offloading
In this episode, we discuss the pedagogical implications of AI use. Things that bring us joy this week: Red Rising A Swim in a Pond in the Rain Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 290: Partner Play
This week we talk about doing partnership work with schools. Things that bring us joy this week: Euchre SITE Conference Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 289: Thoreau Corollary
In this episode, we discuss technology, pedagogy, and what our future classrooms could look like. Things that bring us joy this week: How to Get to Heaven from Belfast Racing Mount Pleasant Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 288: Can You Accommodate Us?
This week we talk about accommodations for students who need them and their increasing number in higher education. Things that bring us joy this week: Ammonite by Nicola Griffith King Sorrow by Joe Hill Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 287: AI Very Special Episode
In this episode, we discuss how qualitative researchers are using AI with Dr. Elizabeth Langran, Dr. Paula Cristina Azevdo, and Dr. Shernette Dunn. Things that bring us joy this week: The City and Its Uncertain Walls by Haruki Murakami Author Charles Yu The Joy Lab Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally BlindSpecial Guests: Elizabeth Langran, Paula Cristina Azevedo, and Shernette Dunn.
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Episode 286: How Competent Are We?
This week we discuss teacher education competencies and how they are used to structure requirements and thus courses at universities. Things that bring us joy this week: Traitors UK on Peacock Trumpet Ensemble Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 285: Take Me to Your Leader
In this episode, we discuss the role of the Science Content Advisor at the PA Department of Education. Things that bring us joy this week: Fallout series on Amazon If I Had Legs I'd Kick You Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 284: Brains are Messy
This week we talk about the difference between knowing and understanding and maybe how comparing to AI neural networks can help clarify the difference. Things that bring us joy this week: Vineland by Thomas Pynchon Absolute Batman Vol. 1&2 by Scott Snyder and Nick Dragotta Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 283: Games People Play
In this episode, we discuss card games, especially ones for learning. Some of the games mentioned in the episode include: Analog Inspiration The Rithm Project AI Leadership Cards Things that bring us joy this week: The Pitt on HBO Pistachio Ice Cream Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 282: Snow Day
This week we talk about snow days (since we had one) and also how they are a case study in policy vs. guidance vs. practice across lots of areas. Things that bring us joy this week: McSweeny's Quarterly Concern Academy Award Nominated Best Pictures (specifically Train Dreams; F1; and Secret Agent) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 281: Can We Make Science Education More Accessible?
In this episode, we try to answer a listener's email about online accessibility and science education. Things that bring us joy this week: The Rip movie Is This Thing On? movie Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 280: Dark Forest of Naming
This week we talk about conceptualizing and operationalizing ideas in educational research and the impact of that process on improving teaching practice. Things that bring us joy this week: Buena Vista Social Club F1 Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 279: PD4AI
In this episode, we discuss professional development for learning how to integrate artificial intelligence in classroom settings and assignments. Things that bring us joy this week: Sinners movie Butterhorns (Not the recipe, but close; This one also looks promising) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 278: Nothing Prime in There
This week we talk about how to handle the situation of a teacher candidate who is not successful in their field placements. Things that bring us joy this week: Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow by Tom King The Message by Ta-Nehisi Coates Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 277: Stop! Start! Or continue!
This week we talked about (New Year's) resolutions of things we want to start, stop, and continue coming into the next year. Things that bring us joy this week: With a Vengeance by Riley Sager One Battle After Another Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 276: Enough of This Frivolity
This week we talk about commencements. You know, graduation. Things that bring us joy this week: Cookies (made by Tanya if you are lucky) Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 275: Words Matter
In this episode, we discuss efforts to develop national competencies for teacher preparation. Things that bring us joy this week: 10 to 25 The Science of Motivating Young People: A Groundbreaking Approach to Leading the Next Generation—And Making Your Own Life Easier By David Yeager The Areas of My Expertise by John Hodgman Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 274: DAM Good
This week we talk about accreditation, which we admit sounds really boring, but turns out it is only somewhat boring and you might find out why you should care. Things that bring us joy this week: Pips - NY Times Games App Game MaddAddam (MaddAddam #3) by Margaret Atwood Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 273: Degrees Don't Disappoint
In this episode, we discuss the reorganizations happening at institutions of higher education. Things that bring us joy this week: Codename Villanelle by Luke Jennings Pzizz app for power napping Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 272: Buckets of Mastery
This week we talk about grades, and specifically the Chronicle of Higher Education article about grade inflation at Harvard. Things that bring us joy this week: David Maslanka's Symphony No. 4 Long Island Compromise by Taffy Brodesser-Akner Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 271: Views on Viewpoint Diversity
In this episode, we discuss the pernicious nature of "viewpoint diversity." We draw upon the Fall 2025 Academe article titled Seven Theses Against Viewpoint Diversity by Lisa Siraganian Things that bring us joy this week: Andor Season 2 Death by Lightning Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 270: On-Brand Curmudgeon
This week we talk about the idea of research to practice in educational research (and practice). Things that bring us joy this week: The Year of the Flood by Margaret Atwood The Balland of Wallis Island Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 269: The Search is On!
In this episode, we discuss the job hiring process in higher education. Things that bring us joy this week: Task on HBOMax The CPED Convening Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 268: Let Yourselves Out
This week we talk about how to think about evaluation and feedback in higher education, specifically for leaders. Things that bring us joy this week: Talk Easy Podcast The Lowdown on FX Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 267: ADA, Not Easy as 123
In this episode, we discuss the upcoming ADA mandate for compliance of digital content for state and local agencies. Things that bring us joy this week: Peacemaker, Season 2 Sinners Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 266: Scott's Privilege
This week we talk about frameworks in science education research. Things that bring us joy this week: Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood Phase Hero Podcast Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 265: The Research We Need
In this episode, we discuss an article in the Journal of Computing in Higher Education. Things that bring us joy this week: David Sedaris House of Guinness on Netflix Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 264: To Union or Not To Union
This week we talk about unions in higher education, the pros and cons and what unions even are. Things that bring us joy this week: The Light Eaters: How the Unseen World of Plant Intelligence Offers a New Understanding of Life on Earth by Zoë Schlanger Slow Horses Season 5 on Apple TV+ Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 263: A Sleepy Afternoon for Ollie
In this episode, we discuss possible episode topics suggested by ChatGPT. Things that bring us joy this week: Down Dog apps Alexa Silver skit on SNL Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 262: Sharing the Em Dash
In a very special episode we are joined by Cole Camplese the Chief Information Officer from the University of Texas at Austin. We talk about AI and technology infrastructure, and it is a lot more interesting then that makes it sound. Things that bring us joy this week: Deadly Class Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally BlindSpecial Guest: Cole Camplese.
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Episode 261: Stuck in the Middle
In this episode, we discuss the changes to Middle Level Certification in Pennsylvania. Things that bring us joy this week: Black Bag by Steven Soderbergh Schwinn IC4 Bike Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 260: Stripping It to the Studs
This week we talk about new things that we are going to try in the upcoming semester of our classes (and we mostly don't stay on topic). Things that bring us joy this week: Department Q 3 Body Problem Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 259: Micro Means Small
In this episode, we discuss Scott's trip to Mexico to work with local science teachers to develop units on microplastics. Things that bring us joy this week: Sandman Season 2 Articles of Interest podcast Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 258: Not My Language
This week we talk about doing professional learning in another country and in another language and what that might mean. Things that bring us joy this week: XMU Sessions (Sirus Indie Radio Station): Lucy Dacus - Time in a Bottle (Cover) by Jim Croce Blondeshell - Diet Pepsi (Cover) by Addison Rae Reconcilable Differences Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 257: Definitely Not Cynical
In this episode, we discuss a recent New York Times article about the Alpha School. Things that bring us joy this week: Mike Birbiglia - The Good Life Ronnie Chieng - Love to Hate It Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 256: A New Way to Offend
This week we talk about how Terrain Theory as a way of setting health policy is a reflection of a deep misunderstanding of how science works and what a theory really means. Things that bring us joy this week: Inception Superman Fantastic Four: First Steps Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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Episode 255: Blogs and Podcasts and AI ...Oh my!
In this episode, we discuss a recent NSTA blog post on Rethinking Science Assessment in the Age of AI. Things that bring us joy this week: My Friends by Fredrik Backman Lift Hydrofoils Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind
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This is a conversation about how science teaching can move between and connect different worlds.
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Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon
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