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Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast
by Surely You Can't Be Serious PC
The pinnacle of infotainment! Crazy stuff you didn’t know about the greatest movies and music of the 80’s, 90’s, and beyond. Hilarity ensues as a research professor and a pop culture savant are pitted against each other in a debate to determine what entertainment icons of film, music, and games are the best of the best of Generation X. https://www.thesurelypodcast.com/
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Interview with Robert Hays: Part 1
This week, Jason and Dee of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast welcome a true legend—actor Robert Hays, the man who first delivered the immortal line that inspired the very name of the show: “Surely you can’t be serious.”In Episode 1 of this special two-part conversation, Robert sits down with the guys to reflect on his journey from early family life to breaking into Hollywood, sharing stories from the formative years that shaped both his career and his outlook on the industry. From there, the conversation dives into his early television appearances on classics like The Rockford Files, Laverne & Shirley, and Wonder Woman—roles that helped pave the way for bigger opportunities.Of course, no conversation with Robert Hays would be complete without a deep dive into Airplane!. The guys explore his experiences making one of the most beloved comedies of all time, from behind-the-scenes moments to the film’s lasting impact on pop culture—and on this very podcast.And just when you think the episode is winding down, an unexpected surprise guest crashes the conversation in a moment you absolutely won’t want to miss.Fasten your seatbelts—this is only Part 1.
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Daryl Hall and John Oates "Private Eyes" (1981): Track by Track!
Jason and Dee wrap up their 3-part deep dive into the albums of 1981 with a look at one of the decade’s most hit-packed records — Private Eyes by Hall & Oates.In this final installment, the guys go track-by-track through the album, breaking down everything from the irresistible hooks of “Private Eyes” and “I Can’t Go for That (No Can Do)” to the deeper cuts that helped define the duo’s signature sound. Along the way, they uncover the stories behind the songs, the songwriting dynamics between Daryl Hall and John Oates, and how this album became a blueprint for pop success in the early 80s.But the conversation goes beyond the grooves.Jason and Dee explore the band’s massive pop culture impact, including their role in shaping the sound of the decade and their heavy rotation during the early days of MTV — when music videos were redefining how audiences connected with artists. They also take a deeper look at the rise of Hall & Oates, from struggling hitmakers to chart-dominating superstars, and the eventual decline that brought an end to their era of dominance.Finally, the guys bring it all home by ranking the three albums from 1981 they’ve covered in this series:Freeze Frame – J. Geils BandBusiness As Usual – Men at WorkPrivate Eyes – Hall & OatesWhich album takes the crown as the best of 1981?It’s a fitting finale to a series full of hits, nostalgia, and spirited debate — and a reminder that 1981 might just be one of the greatest years in pop music history.Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/
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Men at Work "Business As Usual" (1981): Track by Track!
Jason and Dee are back with Part 2 of their 3-part deep dive into the iconic albums of 1981, and this time they’re joined by special guest James Buckley to break down one of the decade’s most unexpected global smashes — Business As Usual by Men at Work.Following up Part 1 (Freeze Frame by the J. Geils Band) and leading into Part 3 (Private Eyes by Hall & Oates), the guys dig into how a quirky Australian band stormed the world seemingly overnight. From “Who Can It Be Now?” to “Down Under,” Jason, Dee, and James go track-by-track exploring the songwriting, musicianship, and offbeat charm that made this album a cultural phenomenon.But the story doesn’t stop at the hits.The episode also dives into the meteoric rise and sudden fall of Men at Work, examining the pressures of global fame, shifting music trends, and the challenges that followed their early success. Along the way, the guys highlight the enduring artistry and resilience of frontman Colin Hay, whose career continues to evolve long after the band’s chart dominance faded.Is Business As Usual just a moment-in-time pop artifact, or does it deserve a place among the truly great albums of 1981?Jason, Dee, and James Buckley are here to find out — with plenty of stories, laughs, and surprising insights along the way.
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J. Geils Band "Freeze Frame" (1981): Track by Track!
On this episode of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast, Jason and Dee travel back to 1981 to break down the breakthrough album Freeze-Frame from Boston’s favorite party band, The J. Geils Band.Track by track, the guys dive into every song on the album — from the massive MTV-era hits to the underrated deep cuts — exploring the stories behind the music, the evolution of the band’s sound, and how a gritty bar-band suddenly became one of the biggest pop acts in the world. Along the way, Jason and Dee share some of the wild behind-the-scenes tales from the band’s history, especially the unbelievable life intersections of frontman Peter Wolf, a man who crossed paths with so many rock legends he’s been dubbed the “Forrest Gump of Rock ’n’ Roll.”But success always comes with a price. As the band rocketed to the top of the charts, the pressures of fame, creative differences, and shifting musical direction began to pull the group apart. Jason and Dee examine how the very success of Freeze-Frame ultimately helped lead to the unraveling of the band itself.This episode kicks off Part 1 of a special three-part series celebrating the albums of 1981 (now celebrating their 45th anniversary). In the coming weeks, the guys will also break down Business as Usual by Men at Work and Private Eyes by Hall & Oates.Three iconic albums. Three deep dives.One final judgment — coming after Episode 3. 🎙️Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/
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"Pretty in Pink" (1986) vs. "Some Kind of Wonderful" (1987): Part 2
Jason and Dee are back with Jill McCormick and Melissa Mingle for Part 2 of their deep-dive showdown between the final great teen films of John Hughes: Pretty in Pink vs. Some Kind of Wonderful.In this episode, the group turns their full attention to Some Kind of Wonderful, breaking down the unforgettable cast and characters — from Keith (Eric Stoltz) and Amanda Jones (Lea Thompson) to the scene-stealing Watts (Mary Stuart Masterson) and ultimate rich-kid villain Hardy Jenns (Craig Sheffer). The crew looks at performances, character arcs, and why this film often feels like the emotional mirror image of Pretty in Pink.Then it’s time to settle the debates that have been brewing since Part 1:Which movie delivered the ultimate '80s jerk — Steff or Hardy?What do we really think about Andie’s prom dress all these years later?Did Blane actually do enough to earn Andie’s forgiveness?Does Keith end up with the right girl?Finally, after two episodes of stories, nostalgia, and spirited debate, Jason, Dee, Jill, and Melissa each deliver their final judgment, crowning the definitive winner between two beloved Hughes-era classics.One movie gets the love. One movie gets left standing outside the prom.The verdict is finally in.Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/
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"Pretty in Pink" (1986) vs. "Some Kind of Wonderful" (1987): Part 1
On this special two-part deep dive, Jason and Dee are joined by friends of the show and Patreon all-stars Jill McCormick and Melissa Mingle to tackle the final face-off of the classic John Hughes teen era: Pretty in Pink vs. Some Kind of Wonderful.In Part 1, the gang rolls back to the mid-’80s to unpack the origins of both films—how Pretty in Pink emerged from Hughes’ collaboration with director Howard Deutch and how Some Kind of Wonderful became the spiritual “answer song” to its predecessor. They explore the cultural moment, the soundtracks, and why these two films feel like emotional cousins… even if they land very differently.Then it’s time for a full character breakdown of Pretty in Pink, including Andie (Molly Ringwald), Duckie (Jon Cryer), Blane (Andrew McCarthy), and Steff (James Spader). The crew digs into performances, casting what-ifs, behind-the-scenes stories, and how each character hit us differently then… and now.Of course, we couldn’t avoid the big questions:The dress. Iconic? Overhyped? Misunderstood?Did Blane actually do enough to earn redemption?And which movie truly delivers the better bad guy?No final verdict just yet — the ultimate judgment is reserved for Part 2, where everyone will officially cast their vote and crown the champion of Hughes’ last great teen romance.If you’ve ever debated Team Duckie vs. Team Blane or wondered whether Watts could’ve walked into Shermer High and run the place, this episode is for you.Part 1 starts now.The final judgment is coming.Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/
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Van Halen "5150" (1986): Track by Track!
Jason and Dee are back with another deep-dive episode of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast, and this time they’re tackling one of the most pivotal albums in rock history — Van Halen’s 5150.Track by track, the guys break down every song on the album, from the explosive opener “Good Enough” to the soaring anthem “Dreams,” uncovering the stories behind the scenes, the studio innovations inside Eddie’s 5150 studio, and the creative chemistry that defined this new era of the band.But this isn’t just an album review — it’s a turning point.Jason and Dee dig into the arrival of Sammy Hagar, exploring how his vocal style, songwriting, and personality reshaped Van Halen’s sound. Was this a natural evolution or a complete reinvention? How did the shift toward keyboards, melody, and polished production change the band’s identity? And how did 5150 fit into the larger pop culture landscape of 1986, where MTV, arena rock, and radio hits ruled the world?Finally, the episode builds to the ultimate showdown:5150 vs. 1984.With the Roth era closing and the Hagar era beginning, Jason and Dee finish their long-awaited comparison between these two iconic albums to answer the question every Van Halen fan has debated for decades:Which album is truly the best?Strap in — this one’s got big riffs, bigger hooks, and a final judgment you won’t want to miss.
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Van Halen "1984" (1984): Track by Track!
This week on the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast, Jason and Dee plug into one of the biggest albums of the decade — 1984 by Van Halen.From the opening synth blast to the final notes, the guys break down every track and every iconic MTV video — unpacking the stories behind “Jump,” “Panama,” “Hot for Teacher,” and the deep cuts that made this record more than just a hit factory. They dive into the bold decision to lean into keyboards, the risks that paid off, and how Eddie’s newly built home studio, 5150, gave him the creative freedom to reshape the band’s sound.But this isn’t just the story of a blockbuster album. It’s also the story of a band at a crossroads. As 1984 climbed the charts, tensions inside the group were rising — creative differences, control issues, and big personalities pulling in different directions. Jason and Dee explore how the very freedom that fueled the album may have also widened the cracks that would soon lead to a seismic lineup change.And the debate doesn’t end here. Next week, the guys will square off 1984 against the first album with new frontman Sammy Hagar, 5150, in what promises to be one of their biggest matchups yet.Was 1984 the band’s creative peak? Or was the next era just getting started? Listen in and get ready for the showdown.Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/
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Top 5 Songs of 1986
Jason and Dee take on what should be a simple task: ranking their Top 5 songs of 1986. Of course, there’s a twist. Thanks to past episodes and the upcoming podcast calendar, huge chunks of the year are completely off-limits—no cuts from albums they’ve already covered, and nothing from what’s coming next. That means saying goodbye to obvious giants and digging deep into the bench to find songs that still define the year without breaking the rules.The result? A list that’s surprising, debatable, and very on-brand for the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast. Along the way, the guys trade memories of what 1986 felt like in real time—what was on TV, what was in theaters, and what they were doing when these songs were soundtracking everyday life. They also toss in two honorable mentions that narrowly missed the cut, because some tracks are just too good to ignore.No repeats. No previews. Just a creative, constraint-heavy love letter to one of the most loaded years in pop culture—and a ranking guaranteed to spark arguments. 🎧📻
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Rush "Moving Pictures" (1981): Track by Track!
Jason and Dee roll out the red carpet for one of the most important rock albums of all time as they’re joined by Rush super fans Brad Moore and Tim Epp to celebrate the 45th anniversary of Moving Pictures. Together, they dive deep into the stories behind every classic track—from radio staples to prog-rock masterpieces—breaking down the lyrics, musicianship, and moments that helped propel Rush from cult heroes to arena-filling legends. Along the way, the conversation traces the band’s unlikely rise, creative risks, and why this album became the perfect balance of complexity and accessibility. And then comes the big moment: after weeks of discussion, Jason and Dee finally render their final judgment in the ultimate showdown—Moving Pictures vs. REO Speedwagon’s Hi Infidelity. Prog precision or heartland hooks? The verdict is in. 🎸🎧Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastSupport us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/surelypodcast
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REO Speedwagon "Hi Infidelity" (1980): Track by Track!
Jason and Dee fire up the jukebox for one of the biggest albums of the MTV era as they welcome special guest Doug Gray, noted REO Speedwagon expert, to break down 1981’s chart-dominating blockbuster Hi Infidelity. Track by track, the trio digs into the stories behind every song—from the heartbreak anthems to the arena-ready rockers—while tracing REO Speedwagon’s long road from Midwest bar band to overnight superstars. Along the way, they unpack band history, lineup changes, behind-the-scenes studio moments, and why this album connected with everyone at exactly the right time. But this episode is only half the battle: Hi Infidelity now heads into a heavyweight showdown against Rush’s Moving Pictures. Jason and Dee will render their final judgment next week—so consider this the evidence phase before the verdict drops. 🎸📀Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastSupport us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/surelypodcast
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Behind the scenes with the Surely Podcast
What really goes on behind the microphone? In this special crossover episode, Jeff Johnson steps in from the A Film Bypodcast to turn the tables on Jason and Dee, asking the questions listeners have always wondered about.How did the show first get started? Have they ever regretted a final matchup decision? Which episode result surprised them the most — and which one truly “moved the needle” for the podcast? Jeff digs even deeper, challenging each host to reveal the secret dream matchup they still hope to bring to the show someday.It’s a relaxed, funny, and revealing conversation as Jeff, Jason, and Dee pull back the curtain and share stories, debates, and a few behind-the-scenes moments you’ve never heard before. If you’ve ever wondered how the magic happens, this is the episode you don’t want to miss.
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Level 5: Defender! (1981) - The Game That Flipped Space Invaders Upside Down
Defender! revolutionized arcade gaming in 1981 with its sideways-scrolling chaos and button-overload controls. In our series finale, we rank all five legendary 1981 games and reveal how we'd spend our last five quarters: Donkey Kong, Ms. Pac-Man, Galaga, Frogger, or Defender? The ultimate showdown of the greatest arcade year ever!
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Level 4: Ms. Pac-Man (1981) - College Kids vs. Gaming Giants
College students took on a video game empire—and won. Then they did the impossible: they improved the greatest game ever made. Hear how Ms. Pac-Man became the queen of 1981 arcades, outsmarted the ghost AI, and still looks amazing over 40 years later. The untold story of the rebellion that created gaming's most beloved female icon.
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Level 3: Frogger (1981) - The Untold Story Behind the Arcade Classic
One young woman's courage changed video game history forever. Discover the secret origin of Frogger, explore every way to die (there are many!), hear the iconic music's story, and learn about a record-breaking high score that still amazes. This 1981 arcade legend has more surprises than you think. Why did the frog cross the road? Find out!
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Level 2: Galaga (1981) - How It Beat Space Invaders at Its Own Game
Galaga took everything Space Invaders started, added Galaxian's colors and sounds, and created a 1981 masterpiece. Discover behind-the-scenes secrets of this arcade legend, insider development stories, and why the Challenging Stage became iconic. Don't miss the pro tip: never shoot your own captured ship! The ultimate deep dive into one of 1981's greatest arcade games.
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Level 1: Donkey Kong (1981) - The Popeye Game That Changed Nintendo Forever
Donkey Kong almost starred Popeye, Olive Oyl, and Bluto. Learn the shocking origin story behind Nintendo's 1981 breakthrough hit: the near-fatal lawsuit, how Mario and Donkey Kong got their names, and why their lawyer became immortalized in gaming history. This is the untold story of the arcade classic that launched a gaming empire and defined 1981 as the golden year of video games.
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Level 0: The History of Video Games Before 1981 - Pong to Pac-Man
Why was 1981 the greatest year in arcade gaming history? Before Jason and Dee dive into Donkey Kong, Ms. Pac-Man, Galaga, Frogger, and Defender, discover the revolutionary games that paved the way. From Pong's simplicity to Space Invaders' invasion and the "Puck Man" controversy, this prequel episode explores the arcade legends that changed gaming forever. Grab your quarters—the high score challenge starts here!
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"The Breakfast Club" (1985) vs. "St. Elmo's fire" (1985): Part 2
The debate comes to a head. In Episode 2 of 2, Jason and Dee of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast finish their head-to-head breakdown of the iconic 1985 films The Breakfast Club and St. Elmo’s Fire. This time, the focus shifts to the cast of St. Elmo’s Fire and the lasting legacy of its ensemble as full-fledged Brat Pack icons. For fun, Dee takes a sharper angle by calling out each character’s fatal flaw, while Jason counters with an alternate, more generous interpretation — finding the redeeming qualities hiding beneath the self-absorption, ambition, and chaos. With the character debate settled, the guys zoom out and deliver their final verdict, answering the big question they’ve been circling all along: which of these two 1985 classics truly stands the test of time? Is it the intimate honesty of detention, or the messy post-college reality of adulthood? Nostalgia, analysis, and judgment collide as Jason and Dee crown a winner and close the book on one of the great 80s movie matchups.Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/
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The Breakfast Club (1985) vs. St. Elmo's Fire (1985): Part 1
Two defining films. One generation. And a debate that still hasn’t cooled down. In Episode 1 of 2, Jason and Dee of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast kick off a head-to-head breakdown of the iconic 1985 films The Breakfast Club and St. Elmo’s Fire. The guys start at the beginning, exploring how each movie came together, the very different creative paths that led to their production, and the directors who shaped what would become two cornerstones of 80s cinema. Along the way, they touch on Andrew McCarthy’s documentary Brats, using it as a lens to examine how these films helped define — and complicate — the Brat Pack legacy. To close out the episode, Jason and Dee zero in on The Breakfast Club, breaking down the cast one actor at a time, discussing what each performer brought to their role, and revealing which alternate actors were seriously considered before those now-legendary casting decisions were finalized. It’s context, history, and pure 80s nostalgia — with the real showdown just getting started.Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/
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Star Wars Holiday Special (1978): Part 2 of 2
The madness continues. In Part 2 of their deep dive into the now-infamous Star Wars Holiday Special, Jason and Dee of Surely You Can’t Be Serious are once again joined by the guys from the 30something Movie Podcast to finish what they started. Having already crossed the point of no return, the crew pushes through the remaining skits, songs, and baffling story choices that somehow made it onto television. More celebrity appearances surface, the variety-show chaos escalates, and the line between endurance test and pop-culture archaeology completely disappears. In this episode, the guys not only break down what’s left of the special, but also wrestle with its legacy — how it became a whispered legend, a bootleg curiosity, and a rite of passage for Star Wars fans brave enough to seek it out. Was there anything worth saving? Or is its greatest contribution simply proving that even the biggest franchise in the world can spectacularly miss the mark? Strap in as the group reaches the end of the Wookiee-filled road and lives to tell the tale — barely.
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Star Wars Holiday Special (1978): Part 1 of 2
What happens when a galaxy far, far away collides with late-1970s variety television and absolutely no one says no? In this very special (and possibly regrettable) episode of Surely You Can’t Be Serious, Jason and Dee are joined by special guest hosts from the 30something Movie Podcast to finally dare to watch — and break down — the now-infamous Star Wars Holiday Special. This is Part 1 of 2, and the guys go all in, dissecting every bizarre skit, every awkward musical number, every questionable story choice, and every moment that makes you ask, “How did this ever make it to air?”From uncomfortable Wookiee family dynamics, to celebrity cameos that feel like contractual obligations, to variety-show energy that completely ignores the rules of the Star Wars universe, nothing is spared. Context is provided, disbelief is shared, and sanity is repeatedly tested as the crew explores whether this special was misunderstood, doomed from the start, or exactly as bad as its reputation.Hit play and suffer joyfully with us as we document one of pop culture’s most legendary misfires — so you don’t have to watch it alone. Part 2 coming soon… assuming everyone survives.
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No Doubt "Tragic Kingdom" (1995): Track by Track!
On this episode of Surely You Can’t Be Serious, Jason and Dee dive headfirst into one of the defining albums of the 1990s: No Doubt’s Tragic Kingdom. The guys trace the band’s painfully slow rise to fame — from the Orange County ska scene and early lineup tragedy to years of label frustration — and explore how those struggles helped fuel the emergence of Gwen Stefani as a brand-new pop and alternative icon. This isn’t overnight success; it’s a hard-earned breakthrough that reshaped the sound and look of mid-’90s music.Jason and Dee break down the creation of Tragic Kingdom, its production under Matthew Wilder, and how heartbreak, ambition, and timing collided to create a cultural juggernaut. They unpack the stories behind every track, from the raw emotion of “Don’t Speak” to the attitude of “Just a Girl” and the ska-punk energy that powered the album to massive MTV and radio dominance.Over the last three weeks, the guys put Tragic Kingdom up against two other era-defining releases — Alanis Morissette’s Jagged Little Pill (Week 1) and Jewel’s Pieces of You (Week 2) — as they debate legacy, impact, and staying power. Which album truly defined the ’90s? Tune in to find out how Jason and Dee rank these iconic records.
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Jewel "Pieces of You" (1995): Track by Track!
This week on the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast, Jason and Dee continue their 90s album trilogy by exploring the quiet, unconventional, and deeply heartfelt debut that turned a young Alaskan singer-songwriter into a global sensation—Jewel’s Pieces of You.The guys dig into Jewel’s extraordinary backstory: her nomadic childhood in the Alaskan wilderness, the hardships that shaped her voice and worldview, and her determination to bring stripped-down, folk-driven storytelling to a pop landscape dominated by grunge and polished radio hits. Jason and Dee break down how Pieces of You was created—from the raw, minimalist production to the live-recorded tracks that captured the honesty of her coffeehouse performances.They uncover the stories behind every song, from the emotional punch of “You Were Meant for Me,” to the aching vulnerability of “Foolish Games,” to the social commentary woven throughout the album’s lesser-known tracks. And they trace the album’s slow but unstoppable rise as it connected with listeners one heart at a time, ultimately becoming one of the defining singer-songwriter albums of the decade.This is week two of a three-week showdown. Jason and Dee kicked things off with Alanis Morissette’s Jagged Little Pill, and next week they’ll wrap up the trilogy with No Doubt’s Tragic Kingdom. Once all three albums are on the table, how will the guys rank these 90s icons in terms of songwriting, impact, longevity, and cultural footprint?Tune in to find out—because the ultimate 90s showdown is heating up.
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Alanis Morissette "Jagged Little Pill" (1995): Track by Track!
This week on the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast, Jason and Dee dive headfirst into one of the defining albums of the 1990s—Alanis Morissette’s Jagged Little Pill. The guys trace Alanis’s remarkable rise from Canadian teen pop idol to alt-rock truth-teller, exploring how a young artist reinvented herself and ended up creating one of the most influential albums of the decade.Jason and Dee unpack the creation of the record—from Alanis’s fateful collaboration with producer Glen Ballard, to the raw, confessional writing sessions that would reshape her public persona and give voice to a generation. They break down the production choices that gave the album its signature emotional punch and explain how Jagged Little Pill exploded into a cultural force that no one saw coming.And of course, the guys tell the story behind every track: the heartbreaks, the therapy sessions, the studio magic, and the controversies that surrounded songs like “You Oughta Know,” “Ironic,” and “Head Over Feet.”But this is just the beginning.Over the next two weeks, Jason and Dee will compare Jagged Little Pill with Jewel’s Pieces of You and No Doubt’s Tragic Kingdom—two other iconic albums that shaped the 90s and launched careers. Which album has the strongest songwriting? The biggest cultural footprint? The deepest emotional resonance? And how will the guys ultimately rank these three 90s juggernauts?Tune in as Jason and Dee rank them all—and maybe break a few hearts along the way.
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Top 5 Worst Sequels of the 80s!
Sometimes after a movie is successful, a sequel is made to further the adventures with the characters in that world. Many times that story is bad (but not always). Sometimes it is an outright embarrassment. In this episode Jason and Dee breakdown their list of the bad decisions, poorly casted, money-grabbing, worst sequels of the 1980s! Join us for a fun discussion on all things cringy, dopey and overall dumb. Does our list match your list? Buckle up!
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Stranger Things Soundtrack: Season 1 Episodes 5-8: Sunglaasses at Night, White Christmas, Carol of the Bells and More!
This is our Stranger Things Season 1 Finale where we cover the music used in Episodes 5-8! In this episode we dive deep into one of the most iconic songs of the 80s (Sunglasses at Night), we take a look at the biggest selling single of all time (White Christmas) and we examine the amazing true story of "Carol of the Bells" and the incredible assassination of its composer! You won't believe it!
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Stranger Things Soundtrack: Season 1 Episode 4: The Tragic Story of Joy Division
In this episode of the Soundtrack of Stranger Things we examine the artists and songs from Episode 4. This time we deep dive into the history of Joy Division, their impact on songs of the 80s and their tragic ending. You may not know much about these guys but, trust us, your friends, the story is amazing! Also friends don't lie.
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Stranger Things Soundtrack: Season 1 Episode 3 - The Story of Foreigner, We WIsh You a Merry Christmas and David Bowie!
In this episode on the Soundtrack to Stranger Things we examine the artists and songs from Episode 3. This time we dive into the glorious music of Foreigner, their rise to classic rock fame and the turbulence along the way. We also discuss one timeless holiday classic, a classical piece that you'll recognize from Bugs Bunny and cap it all off with David Bowie and the most emotional song he's ever performed. You won't want to miss it!
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Stranger Things Soundtrack: Season 1 Episode 2 - The Story of Reagan Youth, Jingle Bells, I Melt With You and More!
We continue our deep dive into the music of the Netflix show "Stranger Things". In this episode we cover a punk song with a back story so bizarre you'll have to hear it to believe it. We also discuss a couple of all time holiday classics and one of the biggest one hit wonders of the 80s! You will not want to miss this one! #strangerthings
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Stranger Things Soundtrack: Season 1 Episode 1 - The Story of White Rabbit, Africa and More!
When the Netflix show Stranger Things was released in 2016 it created a surge in interest for all things 80s including the music. Today we dive deep on the songs included in Season 1, Episode 1: "The Vanishing of Will Byers". The stories behind these songs are amazing! There is murder, suicide, drugs, an attempt to drug the President of the United States, a hang glider accident (it's true!) along with several iconic songs. So put the kick stand and your dirt bike down and join us for the first in our series on Stranger Things: The Music!
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Teen Wolf (1985) vs. The Monster Squad (1987): Part 2
Jason and Dee are back to wrap up their 80s monster showdown as Teen Wolf (1985) goes head-to-head with The Monster Squad (1987)!In Part 2, the guys dive deeper into both films — from werewolves on the basketball court to kids hunting Dracula in suburbia — and explore what made each movie so uniquely memorable.They discuss The Monster Squad’s incredible creature designs, Shane Black’s razor-sharp dialogue, and why it didn’t find its audience until years later. Then they revisit Teen Wolf’s legacy, its unexpected box office success, and how it captured the awkward charm of teenage transformation like no other 80s film.Finally, Jason and Dee deliver their Final Judgment: which movie stands taller under the full moon — the slam-dunking wolfman or the monster-loving misfits?It’s nostalgia, trivia, and plenty of 80s magic as only the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast can deliver!
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Teen Wolf (1985) vs. The Monster Squad (1987): Part 1
This week, Jason and Dee go full moon and monster mash as they kick off a two-part showdown between two beloved 80s cult classics — Teen Wolf (1985) and The Monster Squad (1987)!In Part 1, the guys dig into the origins of both films, tracing how Jeph Loeb and Matthew Weisman brought the all-American werewolf comedy to life, while Shane Black and Fred Dekker crafted their monster-loving homage to the Universal classics. Along the way, Jason and Dee break down the cast of Teen Wolf — from Michael J. Fox’s breakout charisma to the underappreciated heart of the movie — and finally answer the burning question that has puzzled fans for decades… how did “Boof” get her nickname?!Grab your letterman jacket and your silver bullets — it’s time to relive the fur, fun, and freaky genius of 80s monster movies!
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Air Supply "Greatest Hits" (1983): Track by Track!
This week, Jason and Dee float into the soft rock skies with Air Supply and their 1983 Greatest Hits album. Track by track, they explore the soaring melodies, tender heartbreaks, and behind-the-scenes stories of one of the most quietly dominant duos of the early 80s. From the emotional powerhouse “Making Love Out of Nothing At All” to the radio anthem “All Out of Love,” they uncover how Air Supply became the soundtrack to a thousand slow dances and heartbreak confessions.Unlike the wild rock ’n’ roll tales of their contemporaries, Air Supply’s story isn’t about chaos—it's about pure, unapologetic melody and a remarkable run of timeless love songs. Jason and Dee discuss the band’s impact on pop culture, their unusual calm amid fame, and why their brand of soft rock still resonates decades later.Finally, the smooth showdown begins. After exploring Christopher Cross in last week’s episode, the guys weigh Air Supply’s Greatest Hits against The Best of Christopher Cross and deliver their Final Judgment—who truly reigns supreme as the king of 80s soft rock?Love is in the air… but only one Yacht Rock legend can win.
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Christopher Cross "The Best of Christopher Cross" (1991): Track by Track!
This week, Jason and Dee set a course for smooth waters as they dive into the world of Yacht Rock pioneer Christopher Cross, exploring his 1991 Greatest Hits collection. Track by track, they unravel the stories behind the songs—from the serene escape of “Sailing” to the driving groove of “Ride Like the Wind.” They dig into Cross’s unexpected rise, the pressure of sudden fame, and the quiet drama behind an artist who became the face of a genre he never asked to invent. Along the way, they cruise through his massive pop culture impact, including “Arthur’s Theme (Best That You Can Do)”—the Oscar-winning ballad that defined an era of soft-focus romance and late-night radio. Was Christopher Cross simply soft rock… or something far more influential? And this is just the beginning. Episode One of a two-part Yacht Rock showdown!Next week, Jason and Dee climb aboard with fellow 80s soft rock legends Air Supply and their 1983 Greatest Hits. When the final notes fade, only one will earn Final Judgment… Who truly rules the smooth seas of the 80s?All aboard. It’s time to set sail. ⛵️
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"Pee-Wee's Big Adventure" (1985) vs. "UHF" (1989): Part 2
This week Jason and Dee are back for the epic conclusion of their showdown between two of the quirkiest comedies of the 1980s — Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure (1985) vs. UHF (1989)! In part two, the guys dive deep into the cast of UHF, uncover fascinating tidbits and behind-the-scenes trivia from both cult classics, and reminisce about the impact these offbeat films had on pop culture. Finally, Jason and Dee render their final judgment: which zany movie truly stands tall as the king of weird 80s comedy?
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"Pee-Wee's Big Adventure" (1985) vs. "UHF" (1989): Part 1
This week, Jason and Dee dive handlebars-first into two of the quirkiest cult comedies of the 1980s: Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure (1985) and UHF (1989)! In Part 1 of this two-part showdown, the guys explore the wild and wonderful origins behind both films.Join them as they trace Paul Reubens' journey from the improv stages of the Groundlings to the creation of his iconic alter ego, Pee-Wee Herman, and how a stage act morphed into a beloved Saturday morning show—and ultimately a big-screen debut.They’ll also rewind to the rise of Weird Al Yankovic, unpacking how his music and parody fame led to a shot at movie stardom with UHF.Plus, Jason and Dee break down the unforgettable cast of Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure, and the legendary creative collaboration between Reubens, Tim Burton, and Danny Elfman that brought Pee-Wee's surreal world to life.Grab your bowtie and your secret word of the day—this episode is too weird to miss!
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Survivor "Vital Signs" (1984): Track by Track!
This week, Jason and Dee crank up the volume and take you back to 1984 as they dive deep into Survivor’s multi-platinum classic “Vital Signs.” Track by track, they uncover the stories behind the songs, the lineup changes, and the simmering drama that shaped one of the 80s’ most iconic bands. Along the way, they chart the band’s pop-culture footprint — from heart-pounding training montages in Rocky III and Rocky IV to unforgettable anthems in The Karate Kid.But it’s not just nostalgia. Jason and Dee debate the album’s lasting influence, the genius behind its production, and ultimately square off with a question every 80s music fan has asked: which album truly defines the era — Survivor’s “Vital Signs” or Chicago’s “17”? Strap in for stories, trivia, and more than a few surprises in this high-energy trip through one of the decade’s defining records.
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Chicago "Chicago 17" (1984): Track by Track!
🎙️ On this episode of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast, Jason and Dee are going track by track through one of the biggest albums of the 1980s—Chicago 17. From unforgettable hits like Hard Habit to Break and You’re the Inspiration to the deep cuts that defined the era, the guys take a deep dive into the music, the making, and the magic of this iconic record.Along the way, they explore the evolution of Chicago, the massive influence of producer David Foster, and the behind-the-scenes drama that shaped the band’s future. What made this album their best-selling record of all time? And how did it all lead to the shocking departure of frontman Peter Cetera?Tune in for stories, trivia, and the ultimate breakdown of the album that put Chicago back on top in 1984.
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Top 5 Songs of 1980
In this brand-new episode, Jason and Dee fire up the time machine and head back to 1980—a year that bridged the gap between the disco era and the dawn of MTV. But this isn’t just a countdown. Instead of simply naming their favorite tracks, Jason and Dee drop stories, trivia, and clever clues that slowly lead to each song’s big reveal. Can you guess the title before they do?From arena rock anthems to soulful ballads and genre-defining pop hits, the guys break down not just the songs themselves, but their impact on the culture of 1980—the year before music videos would change everything. They also share two honorable mentions each, celebrating the tracks that almost made the cut but still left a lasting mark.Packed with nostalgia, surprises, and a whole lot of laughs, this episode is a must-listen for anyone who remembers cranking up the radio in 1980—or just loves great music history. 🎶👉 Grab your Walkman and feather your hair—it’s time to relive the soundtrack of 1980 with Jason and Dee on the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast!
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"Superman Returns" (2006) What the HECK happened?
This week on the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast, Jason and Dee are joined by special guest Jeff Johnson of the A Filmm By podcast to tackle one of the most debated comic book films of the 2000s — Superman Returns (2006). The guys break down the pros, the cons, the behind-the-scenes trivia, and ultimately ask the big question: what the heck happened? Why didn’t this highly anticipated return to the Man of Steel soar the way audiences and critics hoped?But we don’t stop in 2006. Jason, Dee, and Jeff also dive into their thoughts on the latest DC outing, Superman (2025), giving their candid first impressions of how the new film stacks up to past attempts at rebooting the iconic character.And finally, the guys give their Final Judgment: which movie is the better watch — Joel Schumacher’s neon-fueled Batman & Robin (1997) or Bryan Singer’s nostalgic Superman Returns (2006)? Grab your cape and your kryptonite, because this episode is faster than a speeding bullet and packed with laughs, debates, and geeky goodness!
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"Batman and Robin" (1997): What the HECK Happened?
Holy disaster, Batman! 🦇 Jason and Dee of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast team up with Jeff Johnson of the A Film By podcast to tackle one of the most infamous superhero misfires of the ’90s—Batman & Robin! As part of our special series “What the Heck Happened?”, we dig into the all-star cast, the director, the screenwriter, and the meddling studio executives to uncover who’s really to blame for this neon-colored trainwreck.But we won’t stop there—Jason, Dee, and Jeff will pitch their own revisions on how this movie could have been saved from its icy fate. ❄️ Finally, we set the stage for next week’s showdown as we compare Batman & Robin to Superman Returns (2006) to determine which film deserves to wear the cape.Grab your Bat-credit card and join us for a laugh-filled deep dive into superhero cinema gone wrong! 🎙️🦸♂️💥
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Dokken "Under Lock and Key" (1985): Track by Track!
Jason and Dee of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast are unlocking the vault on Dokken’s 1985 hard rock masterpiece Under Lock and Key! In this episode, they take a song-by-song journey through the album, uncovering the stories behind the music, the band’s rise to Sunset Strip fame, and the lasting impact they had on the glam metal era.But behind the soaring vocals and shredding solos was a toxic relationship between bandmates—a tension that would eventually bring the group down. Jason and Dee pull back the curtain on the feuds, the egos, and the chaos that helped shape, and ultimately fracture, the band.Finally, the gloves come off as they compare Under Lock and Key to Ratt’s Invasion of Your Privacy. Two killer albums from the early '80s Sunset Strip scene—only one can win their final judgment. Which will it be? 🎙️🎸🔥Follow us on yourtube at: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastConsider supporting us on Patreon at: https://www.patreon.com/surelypodcast
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RATT "Invasion of Your Privacy" (1985): Track by Track!
Get ready to crank up the volume and tease up your hair as Jason and Dee of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast dive headfirst into Ratt’s 1985 glam metal classic Invasion of Your Privacy! In this deep dive, we explore the album track by track—uncovering the stories behind the songs, the band’s rise from the Sunset Strip, and their massive impact on '80s rock culture.We’ll talk about the unforgettable cover featuring Playboy Playmate Marianne Gravatte, and we won’t shy away from the heartbreaking story of guitarist Robbin Crosby’s tragic downfall.Then, it’s showdown time—Invasion of Your Privacy vs. Under Lock and Key by Dokken. Two iconic albums. Two titans of the early '80s metal scene. Only one can come out on top. Which will it be? Plug in and find out! 🎸🖤🔥
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Top 5 Songs of 1975!
In this groovy new episode, Jason and Dee hop in their time machine and head back to the golden year of 1975 to reveal their Top 5 favorite songs—but not so fast! They’re not just handing you a playlist… oh no, they’re giving you clues, stories, and trivia that lead up to the big reveal. Can you guess the song before they say it?From chart-topping hits to deep-cut gems, Jason and Dee break down what made these songs special, how they captured the spirit of the '70s, and how they shaped the sound of pop, rock, disco, and soul for years to come. Plus, they each throw in two honorable mentions that didn’t quite make their top 5, but still deserve some serious love.Whether you’re a casual fan or a die-hard music nerd, this episode is packed with nostalgia, surprises, and the kind of deep-dive banter you can only get from the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast. Put on your bell bottoms and platform shoes—it's time to groove through 1975!Check us out on YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastPlease consider supporting us on Patreon at: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcast
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"Fletch" vs. "European Vacation" vs. "Spies Like Us": Episode 2 of 2
In this hilarious and nostalgic finale, Jason and Dee wrap up their two-part deep dive into the Chevy Chase comedy trifecta of 1985! In Part 2, the guys turn their attention to Spies Like Us, breaking down the all-star cast, unforgettable moments, and behind-the-scenes tidbits that made this Cold War comedy a cult classic.Along the way, they drop fun facts and hidden gems from Fletch, European Vacation, and Spies Like Us, comparing jokes, box office numbers, soundtracks, and Chevy’s signature charm in each film. Then, after all the laughs and all the trivia, the guys render their final judgment: Which film is the ultimate Chevy Chase comedy of 1985?Grab your fake press pass, a pair of lederhosen, and your best "Doctor" impression—this one's a can't-miss for comedy fans and '80s movie lovers alike!
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"Fletch" vs. "European Vacation" vs. "Spies Like Us": Episode 1 of 2
It’s 1985, and Chevy Chase is at the absolute top of his game, headlining not one… not two… but three comedy classics: Fletch, National Lampoon’s European Vacation, and Spies Like Us. In this first episode of our two-part series, Jason and Dee take a deep dive into the unforgettable casts of Fletch and European Vacation. From Chevy’s incredible performance as the master of disguises, Irwin M. Fletcher, to the Griswolds’ hilariously disastrous trip across Europe, we break down the behind-the-scenes stories, casting decisions, and the comedic chemistry that made these films ‘80s staples. Pack your bags (but double-check your fake IDs) and join us for this laugh-filled ride through two iconic comedies!
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"Jaws" (1975) vs. "Jurassic Park" (1993): Episode 3 of 3
It’s the epic finale of our "Jaws vs. Jurassic Park" trilogy! Back in the summer of 2020—when COVID flipped the world on its head—Steven Spielberg’s two legendary summer blockbusters somehow ruled the box office again, sitting at #1 and #2 like it was 1975 and 1993 all over again. In this final episode, Jason and Dee dive into the genius of John Williams, the composer behind both unforgettable scores. We share amazing behind-the-scenes tidbits, surprising trivia, and the little details that make both films masterpieces. And finally... it’s judgment time. Which Spielberg blockbuster truly reigns supreme—the suspense of "Jaws" or the awe of "Jurassic Park"? Join us for one last ride as we break it all down and crown the ultimate summer blockbuster!
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"Jaws" (1975) vs. "Jurassic Park" (1993): Episode 2 of 3
In the summer of 2020, with COVID closing down new releases, something unbelievable happened—Steven Spielberg’s "Jaws" and "Jurassic Park" rose back to the top of the box office, claiming the #1 and #2 spots decades after their original releases. In this second episode of our three-part series, Jason and Dee dive into the unforgettable casts of these two epic summer blockbusters. From Roy Scheider, Richard Dreyfuss, and Robert Shaw battling a great white shark… to Sam Neill, Laura Dern, Jeff Goldblum, and Richard Attenborough running from prehistoric predators—we break down the chemistry, the performances, and the behind-the-scenes stories that brought these characters to life. Which cast delivered the more iconic performances? Grab your popcorn and join us as we sink our teeth into this epic face-off!
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"Jaws" (1975) vs. "Jurassic Park" (1993): Episode 1 of 3
In the summer of 2020, when COVID turned the world upside down and theaters scrambled to stay open, two of Steven Spielberg’s greatest summer blockbusters—"Jaws" and "Jurassic Park"—miraculously topped the box office once again, decades after their original release. In this first of a three-part series, Jason and Dee dive deep into the origin stories of both films. From the troubled production of "Jaws" that nearly sank Spielberg's career to the groundbreaking birth of CGI that made "Jurassic Park" a cinematic game changer, we unpack how these two iconic movies forever changed Hollywood. Grab your popcorn and hold on to your butts—this is the ultimate showdown between man-eating sharks and genetically resurrected dinosaurs!
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The pinnacle of infotainment! Crazy stuff you didn’t know about the greatest movies and music of the 80’s, 90’s, and beyond. Hilarity ensues as a research professor and a pop culture savant are pitted against each other in a debate to determine what entertainment icons of film, music, and games are the best of the best of Generation X. https://www.thesurelypodcast.com/
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