PODCAST · business
Swurl Radio
by Ayka Williams, Tealeda Nesbitt, Eric Williams
"Swurl Radio" is a weekly podcast where you and a rotating panel of seasoned coaches and mentors address the most pressing questions in technology careers and professional development. Each episode tackles common challenges faced by professionals at various stages—from entry-level positions to leadership roles.
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The Hardest Pivot: Walking Away from Something That Works w/ Dan Mall | Ep 19
Dan Mall built SuperFriendly into a successful agency, working with brands like Google and scaling a network of 700+ freelancers. Then he walked away, not because it failed, but because it no longer aligned with the life he wanted.This episode goes deeper than business. Dan opens up about leadership mistakes, letting people down, navigating tough decisions, identity, and what it really means to build and walk away from something meaningful.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Identity Shifts, Failure, and Pricing Your Worth w/ Jonathan Stark| Ep 18
Jonathan Stark didn’t start as a pricing expert—he started as a musician chasing a dream, then pivoted into software, and eventually rebuilt his entire career around one idea: hourly billing is broken.In this episode, he shares the real journey behind that transformation—identity shifts, failed projects, career pivots, and the moment he realized businesses reward value, not effort. This is a conversation about unlearning, reinvention, and building a career that actually works.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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From Building a Computer From Scratch to Scaling a Business w/ Maestro Stevens | Ep 17
Maestro Stevens, founder of Iconic Expressions, shares how he went from failed ventures to building a scalable business. This episode breaks down branding vs marketing, using AI to automate workflows, choosing the right clients, and the real sacrifices behind entrepreneurship.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Building a Business From Scratch: Storytelling, Burnout, and Side Hustles That Scale w/ Melody Beuzelin | Ep 16
Melody Beuzelin joins Swurl Radio to talk about building a career from scratch storytelling, startup lessons, burnout, and when a side hustle deserves your full attention. We get into identity, resilience, client boundaries, and why “failure” is just data.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Why Discipline Beats Talent w/ Amit Patel | Ep 15
What actually separates good from great when titles, resumes, and LinkedIn profiles disappear?In this episode of Swurl Radio, Eric and Ayka sit down with Amit, a visionary educator who has shaped the careers of over 3,000 tech professionals, trained teams at Spotify, the United Nations, PwC, and built one of London’s most respected design schools from a side project into a global consultancy.Together, they explore the intangibles that don’t show up on a resume: discipline, curiosity, presence, coachability, and the willingness to put in the reps when no one is watching. Drawing from sports, design, education, and Kobe Bryant’s Mamba Mentality, Amit breaks down why hard work consistently outpaces raw talent, how great coaches create growth environments, and why “learning by doing” is the only path to real mastery.This conversation is for anyone navigating a career pivot, building a company, mentoring others, or trying to stand out in a crowded, AI-driven job market — without losing their humanity.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Swahili Identity, Third Culture Life & Decolonizing Design w\ Husna Abubakar | Ep 14
Eric and Ayka sit down with multimedia artist, researcher, and storyteller Husna Abubakar to talk about what it really means to be Swahili in a world that keeps getting it wrong.Husna shares her experience as a third culture Swahili woman from Mombasa, Kenya, growing up between the Swahili coast and the U.S., and how that tension pushed her to question Western ideas of success, identity, and “the right way” to live. She breaks down Occidental vs. Orientalist frameworks, talks honestly about being a woman of color at RISD in a deeply colonial city, and why she set out to decolonize her own design practice.They get into her shift from graphic design into film, textiles, and installation, her powerful work around Swahili homes, motherhood, and matrifocal culture, and the responsibility she feels as the first in her family to earn a graduate degree. Husna closes with a message for creatives caught between cultures: your indigeneity isn’t a problem to fix—it’s your power.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Surviving Today’s Animation Industry w/ Edmund Earle | Ep 13
Eric and Ayka sit down with Edmund Earle, a veteran 3D animator and motion designer whose work spans PBS, National Geographic, Hulu, and John Oliver. Edmund breaks down what it really takes to survive today’s animation industry — from pricing and client management to choosing between being a generalist or specialist. They also talk AI, short-form content, and the hard lessons new animators need to hear.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Why Discomfort Creates Growth: Chris Do on Confidence, Culture, and Reinvention | Ep 12
In this episode of Swurl Radio, Eric and Ayka sit down with Emmy Award–winning designer and educator Chris Do. Chris opens up about reinventing yourself after failure, growing up between cultures, battling introversion, and the mentors who shaped his life.We talk about unlearning old rules, overcoming fear, rebuilding identity, and why discomfort is the real path to growth. Chris shares powerful insights on navigating mistakes, finding confidence, and discovering who you are after everything falls apart.If you’re in a season of reinvention, self-doubt, or rebuilding your story — this episode is for you.“Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm” Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Discovering what holds you back
In this engaging conversation, Ayka Williams and Tealeda explore the artistic journey of Asya Palatova, who transitioned from graphic design to ceramics and ultimately to coaching. Asya shares her experiences navigating career changes, the importance of creative processes, and how coaching can help individuals in transition. The discussion delves into common questions faced by clients, the fear of being a 'starving artist,' and the significance of embracing uncertainty while pursuing one's passions. Asya emphasizes the interconnectedness of her various creative pursuits and offers valuable insights for those seeking guidance during times of change.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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When Travel Meets Art
In this conversation, Morgan Ramsey, founder of Tela, a travel design studio that focuses on creating story-driven travel experiences. Morgan shares insights into the unique approach Tela takes in planning trips, emphasizing the importance of storytelling and creativity in travel. The conversation covers the logistics of planning brand trips, the role of UX research in understanding client needs, and the challenges of building a business in the travel industry. Morgan also discusses the importance of hiring the right team, fostering a supportive work environment, and the responsibility of travelers to engage with the cultures they visit.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Entrepreneurship at your Fingertip
In this conversation, Olly, the founder of Fingertip, shares his entrepreneurial journey, detailing the inception of his website-building platform aimed at supporting sole operators in the gig economy. He discusses the challenges of finding the right co-founder, building a prototype, and acquiring the first users. Olly emphasizes the importance of clear messaging, investor relations, and leadership dynamics within his team. He also touches on product development, user experience, and the future roadmap for Fingertip, highlighting the community aspect and the goal of making the platform accessible and affordable for all.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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I'm a dreamer. I think it is part of who we are as designers.
In this conversation, hosts Ayka Williams, Terence Davy, and Tealeda Nesbitt Porter talk with John Isaac, a UX coach who shares insights on the evolving landscape of UX design. They discuss the challenges of defining professional titles, the impact of AI on job applications, and the importance of personal branding. The conversation also delves into conducting skills audits for designers, understanding job descriptions, and innovative strategies for job applications. They emphasize the need for community in design, address gatekeeping in the industry, and explore the future of design education and its impact on the next generation.Connect with John LinkedInhttps://johnisaac.io/Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Courtroom, Runway and Growth Design: Empowering the next generation through leadership and mentorship.
In this engaging conversation, Ayka Williams, Terence Davy, and Tealeda Nesbitt Porter explore the inspiring journey of IníOlúwa Abíódún, who transitioned from studying law to becoming a successful growth product designer. Iní shares her experiences in the fashion industry, the pivotal competition that launched her career, and her eventual shift to growth design. The discussion delves into the importance of curiosity, the role of Al in customer experience, and the need to empower young women of color in design. The conversation concludes with insights on navigating career paths and the significance of experimentation in personal and professional growth.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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It's the message, not the medium.
In this episode of Swurl Radio, host Ayka Williams, Terence Davy, and Tealeda Nesbitt Porter engage with visual artist Princella, who shares her journey from Ghana to Russia and the UK, exploring how her cultural heritage and personal experiences shape her art. Princella discusses the significance of hair in identity, the meaning behind traditional Ghanaian patterns, and her creative process. She also delves into the business side of being an artist, the importance of community engagement, and her aspirations for future exhibitions. Throughout the conversation, Princella emphasizes the need for authenticity and the impact of art on people's lives.Get in touch with PrincellaInstagramartbyprincella.comSupport Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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A curator's perspective: Street art is fine art.
In this engaging conversation, Thai Noodell shares her journey as an independent curator in Los Angeles, discussing the challenges and triumphs of her career in the art world. She emphasizes the importance of inclusivity in curation, creating welcoming experiences for attendees, and the ethical practices that guide her work. Thai also reflects on her personal growth as she approaches a new phase in life, navigating burnout, and the significance of self-care. The discussion culminates in her aspirations for the future, including a desire to connect with others and explore opportunities in Africa.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Mindful Eating with a Holistic Nutritionist “Just Eat the Snickers.”
In this conversation, Monique, a health and nutrition coach, discusses the challenges of starting a healthy eating journey, including overcoming imposter syndrome and the guilt associated with food choices. She emphasizes the importance of intention in eating, shares her personal journey into nutrition coaching, and provides insights on reading food labels and making healthier choices. The discussion also covers the benefits of ingredients like Irish moss, strategies for eating healthy in food deserts, and engaging children in healthy eating habits. Monique highlights the balance between indulgence and health, and the importance of personalized nutrition coaching.TakeawaysImposter syndrome is common in healthy eating journeys.Food should not be labeled as good or bad.Eating with intention can enhance the experience of food.Monique's journey into nutrition was influenced by her upbringing.Reading labels is crucial for making healthy choices.Irish moss has numerous health benefits.Healthy eating can be challenging in food deserts.Transitioning to healthier eating requires patience and creativity.Indulgence in moderation is important for mental health.Personalized nutrition coaching can help individuals find their best path.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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Psychological Safety
Whether you're a team leader looking to improve collaboration, an employee navigating workplace dynamics, or an entrepreneur building your company culture from the ground up, this episode offers valuable insights on how psychological safety can unleash creativity, enhance problem-solving, and ultimately lead to better business outcomes.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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The Importance of Alignment
In this episode, we explore how alignment functions as the cornerstone of effective leadership. We'll examine what true alignment looks like—beyond mere agreement—and how it creates a seamless connection between organizational mission, team objectives, and individual motivationsSupport Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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3 Coaches on Imposter Syndrome
"3 Coaches on Imposter Syndrome" is an insightful podcast where a trio of experienced career and personal development coaches dive deep into the universal experience of imposter syndrome. Each episode explores different facets of this common phenomenon that affects professionals across industries, especially in high-pressure tech environments.Support Swurl Swurl is building a new kind of networking platform focused on real connections, not self-promotion. "Music by Vlvt. If you are working on a podcast, get your Swurl Radio discount code and save 20% on anything at Vlvt.fm"
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
"Swurl Radio" is a weekly podcast where you and a rotating panel of seasoned coaches and mentors address the most pressing questions in technology careers and professional development. Each episode tackles common challenges faced by professionals at various stages—from entry-level positions to leadership roles.
HOSTED BY
Ayka Williams, Tealeda Nesbitt, Eric Williams
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