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Teach, Coach, Mentor
by Michael Wish
Welcome to Teach, Coach, Mentor: the podcast about what it actually takes to reach people. We sit down with teachers, coaches, and mentors who are doing the work and we dig into their methods. How they teach so it lands. How they coach so it sticks. How they mentor so it matters.If you care about getting better at developing others — whether that's in a classroom, on a field, in a workplace, or across a lifetime — this show is for you.I'm your host, educator and coach, Mike Wish. Let's get after it.
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Doodles, Difficulty, and Deep Learning with Devika Toprani
What if doodling isn't distraction, it's the missing layer in modern learning? Devika Toprani, creator of the Somagraphic Learning Method, joins Teach Coach Mentor to make the case that drawing shapes before instruction begins is one of the most powerful tools educators and corporate trainers have for building real understanding in an AI-saturated world.Key Takeaways:Somagraphic Learning is a visual scaffold inserted before instruction to lower the entry barrier and create genuine engagement regardless of learners' academic backgroundsDesirable difficulty is non-negotiable for actual learning, and the reflex to use AI immediately is quietly erasing itThe Attempt-Map-Refine cycle applies in higher ed, K-12, and cross-functional corporate teamsEmbodied learning, using the hand to make thinking visible, produces stronger conceptual clarity than passive content consumptionAI belongs in the refine phase, not the attempt phaseTimestamps:00:44 Devika's origin story across Oman, Dubai, India, and the US09:16 What is the Somagraphic Learning Method?10:05 Desirable difficulty and why AI is short-circuiting it15:25 Applying Attempt-Map-Refine in corporate training21:01 Shape, Emotion, Grammar as educator scaffolding tools25:18 What's next: pilots, EdTech partnerships, and the appDevika Toprani is a global educator and researcher whose Somagraphic Learning framework bridges early childhood education, higher ed, HR, and accreditation experience across three countries.Subscribe, share, and visit teachcoachmentor.org for show notes, transcripts, and more.Keywords: Somagraphic learning method, embodied learning, desirable difficulty in education, AI in the classroom, visual learning scaffold, doodling for learning, attempt map refine framework, shape emotion grammar, cognitive offloading AI, lifelong learning strategies, EdTech innovation, active learning techniques, teaching methods, K-12 education, corporate trainingFind Devika:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devika-toprani/Research Paper: https://osf.io/preprints/edarxiv/fnk7z_v1Substack: https://doodlesbydevika.substack.comMore Mike:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwish0802/Podcast Site: https://teachcoachmentor.org/Company Website: https://vellelogos.com Personal Website: https://michaelwish.com
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The Art of Introspection: Lindsay on Healing, Listening, and the Difference Between Coaching and Therapy
Surviving domestic abuse led Lindsay to therapy... and therapy led her straight to a calling. Lindsay, founder of the Balanced Bureau, breaks down why coaching and therapy aren't interchangeable, why "work-life balance" is the wrong goal entirely, and what it actually means to hear yourself clearly.Coaching vs. therapy isn't just semantics — knowing which one you need first can be the difference between breakthroughs and spinning your wheelsImposter syndrome is a syndrome, not an identity — the shift from "who am I?" to "I am me, and that is enough" changes everythingEFT tapping resets the nervous system before the mind can catch up — it's not journaling, it's the thing that makes journaling workMen's mental health starts with one permission: it's safe to get quiet and listen to yourselfInternal balance, not work-life balance, is what most people are actually searching for00:54 Lindsay's origin story — from domestic abuse survivor to coach 04:17 Reframing imposter syndrome as something you can actually get over 09:58 The Balanced Bureau rebrand and what "balance" really means 11:53 EFT tapping explained — nervous system reset for emotional regulation 14:06 How to know whether you need coaching or therapy 19:32 Men's mental health and the art of introspectionLindsay is a life coach, aspiring licensed therapist, speaker, and founder of the Balanced Bureau, with a mission to build transitional housing for women and children fleeing domestic violence.Follow Lindsay: 📸 Instagram: @the_balanced_bureau | 💼 https://www.linkedin.com/in/balancedbureau/ | 📺 https://www.youtube.com/@Balanced_BureauSubscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who needs to hear themselves differently.More Mike: 💼 https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwish0802/ 🎧 https://teachcoachmentor.org/ 🏫 https://vellelogos.com 🌐 https://michaelwish.com
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Celebration of Knowledge: Frank Narducci on Award-Winning Teaching
SummaryIn this conversation, Michael Wish interviews Frank Narducci, an award-winning physicist and professor at the Naval Postgraduate School, discussing his approach to teaching advanced physics to military officers. They explore the value of repetition and review in learning, the difference between memorization and true understanding, and why Frank reframes exams as a "Celebration of Knowledge." Frank also shares how his father and legendary quantum optics researcher Leonard Mandel shaped his career, what the PhD mentor-student relationship really demands, and the one piece of advice every teacher needs to hear.TakeawaysFrank Narducci is a recipient of the Richard Hamming Teaching Award at the Naval Postgraduate School.Starting each class with a review of prior material is a deliberate and effective teaching strategy.Covering less material thoroughly outperforms covering more material quickly.Conversational teaching is more effective than traditional lecturing.Exams should function as learning experiences, not just measuring sticks.Understanding underlying principles matters far more than memorizing formulas.Choosing a PhD program is 5% about the school and 95% about the advisor.Great mentors ask whether the work is fundamental enough to be worth doing.Flexible teaching — pivoting when the moment calls for it — produces deeper learning.The best teachers design lessons from the student's perspective, not their own.Titles Celebration of Knowledge: Frank Narducci on Award-Winning Teaching Don't Memorize the Formula: Frank Narducci on Teaching Physics and MentorshipChapters00:01 Introduction and the Richard Hamming Teaching Award01:15 The Review-Before-Teaching Method05:53 Conversational Teaching vs. the Lecture Model09:48 Celebration of Knowledge: Rethinking Exams11:00 Memorization vs. Understanding16:49 Teaching, Coaching, and Mentorship in Academia17:29 How to Choose a PhD Advisor20:08 Leonard Mandel and a Father Who Sparked a Career24:36 Research Philosophy: Is It Fundamental Enough?26:49 Advice for Teachers and Mentors31:06 The LIGO Nobel Prize Pivot: Connecting Physics to the FleetKeywords quantum physics, physics education, Naval Postgraduate School, NPS, award-winning teaching, teaching strategies, spaced repetition, active learning, exam anxiety, knowledge retention, mentorship in academia, PhD advisor, Leonard Mandel, quantum optics, laser physics, military education, lifelong learning,
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Choose Your Hard: Jon Bergmann on Flipped Classrooms, AI, and 40 Years of Teaching
SummaryIn this conversation, Michael Wish interviews John Bergmann, a pioneer of the flipped classroom model, discussing his extensive experience in education, the importance of social learning, and the challenges and benefits of modern teaching methods. They explore the role of AI in education, the significance of reading and writing, and the impact of engaging projects on student learning. John shares valuable insights and advice for educators, emphasizing the need to inspire students and the importance of making intentional choices in teaching and learning.TakeawaysJohn Bergmann has 40 years of experience in education.The flipped classroom model was developed to help students who miss classes.Teaching is a deeply social experience that enhances learning.The primary role of a teacher is to inspire students to learn.Accountability is crucial in a flipped classroom setting.Lectures can still play a role in modern education.AI can be beneficial but also poses risks to student learning.Reading and writing are essential skills that need to be emphasized.Engaging projects can help students connect different concepts in physics.Choosing the right challenges in life can lead to better outcomes.TitlesRevolutionizing Education: The Flipped ClassroomThe Journey of a Physics EducatorChapters00:00 Introduction to John Bergmann and His Journey06:04 The Importance of Social Learning11:56 Challenges and Accountability in Flipped Classrooms17:49 AI in Education: Opportunities and Risks23:49 Engaging Students Through ProjectsKeywordseducation, flipped classroom, teaching methods, AI in education, student engagement, social learning, John Bergmann, physics education, teaching strategies, accountability in learning
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The Honest Man Project with Jon Cooke: What Dads Won't Say Out Loud
Why Dads Are Burning Out — And What to Do About It | Jon Cooke, Honest Man ProjectJon Cooke built the Honest Man Project because 11 years ago he had nowhere to turn. Now he runs a free community helping professional dads navigate burnout, emotional isolation, and the pressure to perform at work and at home — without losing themselves in the process. Michael Wish and Jon go deep on why men don't talk, why that's killing them, and what actually works.Key Takeaways:Men don't need therapy-speak — they need a space to vent, a community that shows up, and the occasional honest complimentThe "bumbling dad" trope in pop culture masks a real crisis: male loneliness is at an all-time high and men account for over 70% of suicidesYoung men are absorbing pressure before they even become fathers — figures like Andrew Tate fill the void when no healthy masculine example existsThe fix isn't complicated: start your day with gratitude before touching your phone, end it by writing down what went well, and take 10 minutes mid-day to just stopTimestamps:00:00 Introduction02:00 The "useless dad" trope and its real impact05:30 Andrew Tate, masculinity hijacked, and young men at risk10:00 Why men solve instead of share — and why that backfires15:30 The Honest Man Project: origin and mission22:00 The power of a single compliment for men25:00 Letting men vent before coaching them28:30 Legacy question: what you don't want to regretGuest: Jon Cooke is a men's coach and founder of the Honest Man Project, a free Skool community for professional dads working to balance career ambition with present fatherhood.🔗 Find Jon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-cooke-230a662b/Honest Man Project on Skool: https://www.skool.com/the-honest-man-project-4222/aboutSubscribe, share this with a dad who needs to hear it, and join the conversation at teachcoachmentor.org.More Mike:LinkedIn: 💼 https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwish0802/Podcast Site: 🎧 https://teachcoachmentor.org/Company Website: 🏫 https://vellelogos.comPersonal Website: https://michaelwish.com
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From Trauma to Treasure with Shā Sparks
Shā Sparks has been podcasting since 2018 and coaching people through their hardest moments for even longer. What started as a cosmetology career turned into a decade of training others, which evolved into fearless living coaching and a podcast built around one question: what does investing in people mean to you?In this conversation, Shā and Mike dig into the real engine behind personal transformation — how trauma becomes treasure when you stop running from it and start confronting it voluntarily. Shā shares the story of a combat veteran who'd never been asked how his recovery made him feel, and how that single question revealed how stuck we get in the story instead of the feeling behind it. They also get into the tension between AI and human interaction (Shā calls it "HI"), the phone addiction crisis across generations, the challenge of scaling coaching without losing authenticity, and why the answer is always "one person at a time." The episode wraps with Shā coaching Mike on his podcast technique live — including advice on finding a signature question that makes each episode unmistakably his.Find more Shā at https://www.theshasparksshow.com/
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From the Corps to Coaching: Brandon Smith on Finding Purpose After the Uniform
Episode 9: From the Corps to Coaching — Finding Purpose After the UniformGuest: Brandon Smith — Former U.S. Marine, Entrepreneur, CoachHost: Mike WishRuntime: ~29 minutesEpisode SummaryBrandon Smith spent six years as an enlisted Marine — motor transport operator with an artillery unit — before stepping into the civilian world and discovering that a 9-to-5 wasn't going to fill the void the Corps left behind. After stints at FedEx and an e-commerce company, he found his way to entrepreneurship as a path to restore purpose and serve others.Now Brandon coaches veterans and first responders through the hardest stretch in business: going from zero to one. He runs Mental Momentum, a Skool community built around helping people land their first clients and transition into entrepreneurship.In this episode, Mike and Brandon dig into the post-military identity crisis, why most new entrepreneurs focus on the wrong constraint, what 141 one-on-one calls and 20 straight rejections taught him, and why charging for your value isn't at odds with serving others.Key Timestamps[0:00] Intro and background — Brandon's Marine Corps service and transition out[2:50] Why entrepreneurship? The identity gap after the military[5:00] Lost sense of purpose and how entrepreneurship became the vehicle to serve[6:00] Service and entrepreneurship are not incompatible[6:45] Why veterans struggle to charge for their value[8:00] Brandon's two-year journey and leading with free value too long[9:30] Building teams to solve problems — the parallel between the Corps and business[10:00] Who Brandon helps: veterans, first responders, and beyond[11:30] The #1 problem: overwhelm — and how to create space before building a business[13:00] Case studies: a former border patrol agent and a single-mother nurse[15:00] Holistic coaching — health, relationships, mental bandwidth, and business are interconnected[16:30] The real constraint: getting in front of people, not perfecting the product[18:00] Every business is a people business — canvassing still works[19:30] Mike's failed student coaching business and lessons from falling flat[20:30] Brandon's rejection story: 141 calls, 20 consecutive nos, then the first sale[22:00] The psychologist who required 100 rejections before entry — fear vs. reality[23:30] Jocko Willink: "Besides death, all fear is psychological"[24:00] Catastrophization — catching the spiral in students, clients, and yourself[25:00] Where to find Brandon — YouTube, Skool, Mental Momentum[26:00] Final question: What's the one thing you can't get wrong?[28:30] Closing — why vets build communitiesKey TakeawaysThe zero-to-one gap is the hardest part of entrepreneurship. Most people get stuck because they focus on building and improving products instead of getting in front of people. The constraint is almost always distribution, not the product itself.Post-military identity loss is real — and entrepreneurship can be the antidote. When structure, routine, and brotherhood disappear overnight, the void is deep. Building something of your own can restore purpose, but only if you're intentional about it.Create space before you build. Brandon's coaching method starts with time management and eliminating noise — especially for people juggling jobs, families, and limited bandwidth. You can't grow a business if you don't have the mental capacity to think about one.Rejection is the cost of entry. 20 nos before a yes. 141 calls in a year. The fear of rejection stops more people than rejection itself. Getting comfortable with "no" is a prerequisite, not a setback.It's okay to charge for your value. Veterans especially tend to undervalue their expertise. Leading with free value is smart. Staying there forever is not. Your experience, your failures, your time — they're worth something.Connect with Brandon SmithYouTube: @BrandonSmithxSkool Community: Mental MomentumConnect with the ShowWebsite: teachcoachmentor.orgHost: Mike Wish — Educator, Coach, Entrepreneur
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Karla Murphy: Why the Obsessed Always Win
Naval Academy grad. Marine. Top 1% Etsy store owner. Female Entrepreneur of the Year. Karla Murphy didn't come from a background that predicted any of it — and that's exactly the point.In this episode, Karla sits down with Mike to talk about what obsession actually looks like when it's not just a buzzword on a hoodie. She breaks down how she went from having zero expectation of college to building multiple businesses, coaching founders and CEOs, and writing her book Be One of Zero: Why the Obsessed Always Win. They get into what separates people who receive feedback from those who deflect it, why she treats failure as data instead of identity, and the specific life audit framework she uses with coaching clients to ruthlessly cut what doesn't serve them. They also dig into the myth of work-life "balance," the power of identity-first change, and why giving yourself 45 minutes to be pissed — and not a minute more — is a legitimate strategy.If you want to hear two Marines talk honestly about coaching, ownership, emotional discipline, and what it means to survive version one before you ever get to version ten, this one's for you.📖 Grab Karla's book: Be One of Zero — available on Amazon.
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Martha from Greek to Code: A Self-Taught Developer's Case for Unschooling
Martha went from studying Latin and Greek to teaching herself software development while raising four kids—no bootcamp, no degree, just free online resources and building in public. Now she and her husband work remotely, travel, and practice "unschooling" with their children.In Part 1 of this conversation, we dig into what unschooling actually looks like, why interest-based learning creates what Martha calls a "superpower," and why she treats rules with her kids the same way she'd treat rules with a roommate.Topics covered:Teaching yourself to code vs. formal education (and why she calls it "cheating")The case against education inflation and credential bloatWhy "stay adaptable" is the only career advice that matters nowUnschooling vs. Montessori vs. traditional homeschoolingRespectful parenting: treating kids like roommates, not prisonersWhy AI will help kids learn faster—and cheat faster on things they don't care aboutStructure vs. rules: building internal motivation instead of external complianceKey ideas:"Aggressive curiosity" and "joyful experimentation" as core valuesInterest-based learning as superpower—the 5-year-old mushroom expertWhy kids only cheat when forced to learn things they don't care aboutThe problem with external structure: military vets who stop working out after dischargeReferenced:Leisure, the Basis of Culture by Josef PieperThe Case Against Education by Bryan CaplanJohn Holt (founder of unschooling movement)
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Scott Ferguson: Everyday Resume from 1.8 GPA to Elite Performance Coach
In this powerful episode of Teach, Coach, Mentor, host Michael Wish sits down with Scott Ferguson: Navy veteran, elite performance coach, and host of the Time to Shine Today podcast (approaching 500 episodes). What starts as a conversation about military background and life transitions becomes a masterclass on overcoming adversity, the power of curiosity, and why coaching isn't about telling people what to do—it's about helping them discover what they already know.Scott's story is anything but ordinary. Born in the Philippines during the Vietnam War, adopted twice, passed between families, and graduating high school with a 1.8 GPA, the statistics said he shouldn't succeed. But a chip on his shoulder, a commitment to serving others, and the discipline forged in the Navy transformed him into a coach who now works with NFL players, UFC fighters, Olympic wrestlers, and Fortune 500 executives. If you've ever felt like your background disqualifies you from success—or wondered how to turn pain into purpose—this episode delivers.💡 Topics We Cover:Scott's unconventional journey: from Filipino orphan to Navy veteran to elite performance coachWhy the military was "a billion percent" responsible for his coaching frameworkThe book that saved his life during his darkest moment (The Traveler's Gift by Andy Andrews)Coaching vs. consulting: why telling people what to do doesn't workHow the victim mindset traps us—and what breaks us freeWhy structure gives you freedom (the uniform paradox)The "everyday resume" concept: how to defeat imposter syndromeAttaching confidence to intentions vs. capabilitiesWhy military veterans make exceptional entrepreneurs and coaches🛠 Key Concepts Discussed:Responsibility = the ability to respond (not react)Borrowing from the past vs. living in itThe difference between cultural rules and written rulesWhy "everyone knows what they want—they just don't know how to talk themselves into it"🔥 Notable Quotes:"Everyone knows what they want—they just don't know how to talk themselves into it.""The more you mentor, the more immortal you become.""Attach your confidence to your intentions, not your capabilities. The second you do that, the sky's the limit.""Don't take life too seriously—we're not making it out alive.""Was I useful? That's my why. A hundred percent."📚 Book Recommendations:The Traveler's Gift by Andy AndrewsThe Go-Giver by Bob Burg📌 Connect with Scott:Podcast: Time to Shine TodayWebsite: timetoshinetoday.comStrava: Track his 1,000+ day streak of running a mile every morning👥 Join the Community: Are you a student, teacher, coach, or lifelong learner looking to level up? Follow the Teach, Coach, Mentor podcast and join us as we explore the tools, mindsets, and habits that empower people to become who they're meant to be.If you are a student and want to join our community to discover your own values and embark on a guided journey of self-discovery, visit https://www.skool.com/self-architect.
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AI Won’t Replace Us, It’ll Amplify Us: Lessons from Mike Todasco
In this inspiring episode of Teach, Coach, Mentor, host Michael Wish sits down with innovator, writer, and AI educator Mike Todasco, former Senior Director of Innovation at PayPal and current Visiting Fellow at the AI Center at San Diego State University. What begins as a conversation about creativity and artificial intelligence quickly evolves into a deeper dialogue on democratizing technology, defeating self-limiting beliefs, and why curiosity is the ultimate superpower.Mike shares his unconventional journey—from accountant to entrepreneur to PayPal’s innovation leader—where he proved that creativity belongs to everyone, not just the “creative types.” Since leaving PayPal, he’s become a leading voice in helping people use AI to expand their potential, not shrink it. If you’ve ever wondered how to embrace change, use technology without losing your humanity, or silence the inner critic that says “you’re not a writer” or “you’re not creative,” this episode is for you.💡 Topics We Cover:Mike’s winding career path: from green visor accountant to innovation leader at PayPalHow AI can make us both “smarter” and “dumber”—and why it depends on how we use itUsing AI as a tutor, creative partner, and blank-page busterThe role of taste, judgment, and human “messiness” in an AI-driven worldWhy self-talk is the biggest barrier to growth (and how Hemingway’s advice helps)The MFA journey: going back to school at 48 and embracing the discomfort of learning anewHow culture shapes perceptions of human vs. AI-created workWhy live, imperfect, human experiences—from small comedy clubs to Broadway—will only grow more valuable in an AI-saturated world🛠 Tools and Resources Mentioned:AI tutors and ChatGPT study modes for personalized learningClaude and other large language models for structuring lessons and overcoming the blank pageHumor writing exercises and publications as a practice ground for creativityExperiments at SDSU on how people perceive AI vs. human creativity across cultures🔥 Notable Quotes:“AI can write you a B+ paper. But it can also help you learn an entire grade level more—if you use it the right way.” — Mike Todasco“Taste and judgment are going to matter more than coding in the future.” — Mike Todasco“All first drafts are crap. Even Hemingway said that. The point is to write anyway.” — Mike Todasco“The thing I’d regret most on my deathbed isn’t failure—it’s never trying.” — Mike Todasco📌 Connect with Mike:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/todasco/Medium/Substack: Search “Mike Todasco” for essays, humor, and AI writing👥 Join the Community:Are you a student, teacher, coach, or lifelong learner looking to level up? Follow the Teach, Coach, Mentor podcast and join us as we explore the tools, mindsets, and habits that empower people to become who they’re meant to be.If you are a student and want to join our community to discover your own values and embark on a guided journey of self-discovery, visit https://www.skool.com/self-architect.
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Joe Apfelbaum: How a Shy Kid Became a Confident CEO
In this dynamic episode of Teach, Coach, Mentor, host Michael Wish sits down with entrepreneur, author, and energy powerhouse Joe Apfelbaum, founder of Evy AI and a master of authentic engagement. What starts as a conversation about AI and LinkedIn quickly evolves into a deeper exploration of personal transformation, attention as currency, and the life-changing power of intentional growth.Joe opens up about his journey from introverted and insecure to becoming a confident, sought-after speaker who’s helped thousands of entrepreneurs grow their business through real connection—both online and off. If you’ve ever wanted to break free from limiting beliefs, learn how to leverage AI to be more human (not less), or grow a community that actually gives a damn, this episode is for you.💡 Topics We Cover:Joe’s radical identity transformation—and how it started with deep personal developmentUsing AI to build better human relationships, not just automate spamThe art of capturing attention in an “everything’s-a-scroll” worldWhy rapport is more valuable than skill when it comes to teaching and coachingTeaching students to grow through discomfort, rejection, and reflectionThe power of writing your future self (and identifying the gap)Joe’s core values and how they drive Evy AI: Time is precious, Be authentic, and Experiment joyfullyBuilding a joyful, high-trust, non-cutthroat entrepreneurial community🛠 Tools and Resources Mentioned:EV.AI: Joe’s AI-powered platform that helps entrepreneurs save time and build real relationships on LinkedIn and beyondThe “100 rejections” challenge: a powerful tool for overcoming fear and building confidenceValue discovery and self-authoring frameworks to help students (and adults) become who they want to be🔥 Notable Quotes:“Most people are chasing comfort. Growth never happens in the comfort zone.” — Joe Apfelbaum“AI shouldn’t replace connection—it should accelerate it.” — Michael Wish“Be aggressively curious. And experiment joyfully.” — Teach, Coach, Mentor mantra in the making📌 Connect with Joe:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/joeapfelbaum👥 Join the Community:Are you a student, teacher, coach, or lifelong learner looking to level up? Follow the Teach, Coach, Mentor podcast and join us as we explore the tools, mindsets, and habits that empower people to become who they’re meant to be.If you are a student and want to join the Velle Logos community to discover your own values and embark on a guided journey of self-discovery, visit vellelogos.com.Connect with Teach, Coach, Mentor:Join our online community for coaching, mentoring, and support.Instagram: @vellelogosLinkedIn: Velle LogosYouTube: @VelleLogosWebsite: vellelogos.com
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Brittany Fella on Teens Thriving, Not Just Surviving
How do we move from simply surviving adolescence to truly thriving? What if every intense emotion—from anger to anxiety—wasn't a problem to be fixed, but a data point to be understood? In this powerful conversation, host Michael Wish sits down with licensed therapist Brittany Fella, who has spent 17 years working exclusively with teens and parents.Brittany shares a transformative framework for navigating the emotional landscape of not just the teenage years, but adulthood as well. Listen in for surprising insights on why today's teens are craving real connection away from their phones , the crucial difference between coaching and therapy , and why the most important first step you can take is to simply "start by starting". This episode is a must-listen for parents, young adults, coaches, and anyone looking to build a more resilient and examined life.In This Episode, We Discuss:[00:46] Brittany's Origin Story: How personal struggle with addiction in her early 20s inspired a 17-year career helping adolescents.[03:00] The Key to a Vital Life: Why having access to your inner world and understanding your emotional triggers is critical for navigating life with vitality.[05:04] Your Emotions are Data: A powerful reframe for looking at emotional meltdowns not as failures, but as data points that reveal how you work. Curiosity is the key to deadening an emotion's intensity.[08:19] What's Underneath Anger?: A deep dive into how anger, especially in parenting, often masks underlying feelings of fear, hurt, or being underappreciated.[09:20] From Surviving to Thriving: How to help teens shift from a "victim mode" to understanding the challenges presented to them and building community for support.[15:26] The Secret to Authentic Community: The importance of leaders and adults modeling vulnerability by talking about their own struggles and how they move through pain.[19:43] Are Phones Losing Their Power?: Brittany's surprising observation that adolescents are finding themselves unfulfilled by their phones and want to be more present with each other.[29:51] The Best Advice? Just Start: Why waiting until you have all the answers is a mistake, and the power of taking a risk and "starting by starting".[31:46] Therapy vs. Coaching: Brittany breaks down the fundamental differences, explaining that coaching is more strategy-based while psychotherapy delves into the depths of your soul and childhood.[35:55] Breaking the Stigma: A candid discussion on why men often adopt the "rub some dirt in it" mentality and the incredible benefits of preventative marriage counseling.Connect with Our Guest:Find Brittany Fella and learn more about her individual and group sessions for teens and parents. She provides in-person services in Orange County, California, and offers coaching worldwide.Website: BrittanyFella.com Connect with Teach, Coach, Mentor:Join our online community for coaching, mentoring, and support.Instagram: @vellelogosLinkedIn: Velle LogosYouTube: @VelleLogosWebsite: vellelogos.com
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Steven Petrow on the Joy of Friendship and Writing
In this heartfelt and humorous conversation, Michael sits down with longtime friend and writer Steven Petrow to explore how we find joy in the midst of life's hardest moments—and why writing, failure, grief, and even hero golf shots can be powerful sources of meaning and growth.Together, they discuss:The origins of their decade-long friendship—from a letter sent during deployment in Afghanistan to years of deep conversationSteven’s reflections on failure, loss, and resilience—and why embracing what "sucks" might be the best teacherThe small but mighty power of gratitude journaling and joyful ritualsThe science behind why handwriting and slowing down can improve memory, mood, and meaningWhy we should all see ourselves as writers—and how writing helps us clarify our thoughts and connect across generationsWhat it really means to be joyful (hint: it’s not the same as being happy)Whether you’re a student trying to define your path, a veteran rebuilding your story, or just someone learning how to grow through what you go through—this episode is for you.✍️ Featured Topics:Embracing failure as a learning signalThe discipline of gratitude and why it worksRebuilding joy after lossReading as becoming another mindWriting as an act of self-respect—and connection📚 Mentioned in this Episode:The Joy You Make by Steven PetrowWriting to Learn by William ZinsserJamil Zaki’s work on empathy and neuroplasticityThe phrase “Be the strongest person at your father’s funeral” (popularized by Jordan Peterson)✉️ A Message from Velle LogosAt Velle Logos, we believe every learner deserves the tools to grow—with purpose, clarity, and community. Through group coaching, habit-building, and mentorship, we help students and leaders build the foundation for a joyful, resilient life.🔹 Join the movement.🔹 Level up your learning.🔹 Be the author of your own future.👇 Follow & Connect:Instagram: @vellelogosLinkedIn: Velle LogosYouTube: @VelleLogosWebsite: vellelogos.com
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Brandon Smart in his "Weird Purgatory of Nerd-Dom"
Brandon Smart takes us on his remarkable from-enlisted-to-scholar journey, highlighting how a Marine Corps mindset can transform when applied to advanced education at the Naval Postgraduate School. He candidly discusses grappling with imposter syndrome, the power of honest feedback, and how resilience and anti-fragility—like leveling up through every boss fight—can be intentionally developed. He also shines a light on practical habits (yes, sleep really matters!) and why reading physical books can turbocharge your retention and critical thinking.Whether you’re navigating your own “weird purgatory of nerd-dom” or mentoring the next generation of leaders, you’ll walk away with concrete strategies for growth.How honest, constructive feedback is like a GPS recalculating your route toward better leadershipWhy surrounding yourself with the right “raid party” of challenging peers speeds up personal growthThe surprising mental edge you get from unplugging and reading printed pagesWhat challenge will you seek out next to build your own anti-fragile mindset?Key TakeawaysBrandon’s path from enlisted Marine to NPS grad shows education as a leadership multiplier.Imposter syndrome is a hallmark of high achievers—acknowledge it, don’t avoid it.Honest feedback fuels true improvement; sugarcoating holds you back.Sleep isn’t negotiable—it’s the foundation of peak cognitive performance.Resilience (and anti-fragility) grows when you intentionally face and learn from challenges.Physical books beat screens for deep comprehension.Young adults should seek out demanding environments to accelerate personal growth.Sound Bites“I was out of my league trying to write.”“You have to invest in them.”“If you can’t read, you can’t lead.”Chapters00:00 Introduction & Brandon’s Marine Corps Background11:10 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome18:25 The Importance of Sleep & Sacrifice24:02 Skills Gained from Education29:50 Applying Skills in Leadership Roles35:47 Teaching & Learning in the Marine Corps42:10 The Power of Honest Feedback51:19 Anti-Fragility vs. Resilience57:01 Life Lessons Learned Through HardshipConnect with Mike:Velle Logos: www.vellelogos.comSubscribe & Share the show to support more conversations like this!
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Win or Learn: Buddy Rushing on The Mindset that Builds a Mission
Episode Summary:In this episode of Teach, Coach, Mentor, Mike Wish sits down with Edward “Buddy” Rushing—a Marine Corps veteran, real estate entrepreneur, and founder of White Feather Investments—to explore how failure can become your greatest teacher. From losing everything on his first real estate deal to helping veterans build over $1 billion in property, Buddy shares how he turned painful lessons into a national movement.We dive deep into what it means to adopt a "win or learn" mindset, why teaching is a responsibility, not a luxury, and how AI is empowering a new generation of veterans to build freedom after service. Whether you're a teacher, coach, mentor, or student of life—this conversation will challenge and inspire you.🧠 What You'll Learn:Why failure is essential to growth and how to reframe itHow Buddy built generational wealth The importance of identity, vision, and communication in leadershipWhy veterans are uniquely positioned to thrive in today’s economyHow AI tools can amplify human connection and accelerate learningThe evolution of White Feather into a movement for financial freedom⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Intro: From Poverty to Purpose05:32 – Buddy’s First Real Estate Failure (and What He Learned)17:48 – The Power of Time and Perspective24:10 – Why You Either Win or Learn29:42 – Turning Pain into a Teaching Mission38:05 – Building White Feather: From 5 Marines to $1B+ in Assets44:10 – Passion, Vision, and the Role of Communication52:55 – Real Estate vs. Real Impact58:12 – AI, Financial Freedom, and the Future of Veteran Empowerment1:05:30 – Final Thoughts: Don’t Just Learn—Pass It On🧭 Guest Links:Buddy Rushing | White Feather InvestmentsWebsite: www.whitefeatherinvestments.comLinkedIn: Edward Rushing🔗 Resources Mentioned:Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert KiyosakiThe Strategic Corporal conceptChatGPT and AI tools for learning & productivity🙌 Connect with Mike:Velle Logos: www.vellelogos.comInstagram: @vellelogosLinkedIn: Michael WishSubscribe & Share the show to support more conversations like this!
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Melissa in Chaos: Business, Babies, and Being Real Online
In this episode of Teach Coach Mentor, Mike Wish sits down with his sister — the unapologetically real, wildly relatable Melissa Hammerle of Melissa in Chaos. A former teacher turned photographer turned online community builder, Melissa shares how she bootstrapped a successful photography business while juggling babies, bills, and zero formal training.Together, Mike and Melissa unpack what it really means to learn by doing, the emotional rollercoaster of starting something new, and how to thrive (and occasionally fail publicly) in both business and motherhood. Whether you’re launching a side hustle, feeling stuck in your career, or just trying to survive another day with small children — this episode will speak to you.What You’ll Learn:How Melissa taught herself photography using YouTube, grit, and $20 photo sessionsWhy starting messy beats waiting for perfectHow motherhood shaped her mindset as a business ownerThe dangers of analysis paralysis (especially in the YouTube era)The real reason her online community grew to over 50,000 followersWhy your passion doesn’t need permission — just consistency and couragePlus:Mike reveals his own struggles with learning outside academiaMelissa shares how her daughter (age 12!) started a mission-led businessHonest talk about social media pressure, brand deals, and community trustMentioned in This Episode:Make It Stick: The Science of Successful LearningMelissa’s community: “The Seven Friend Circle”Velle Logos – Mike’s new learning platform for students and lifelong learnersFree access to the Student Better course (now called the Self-Architecture Course) with the code MELISSAINCHAOS. Visit www.vellelogos.com/course/self-architect-learn-design-transform/If this conversation made you laugh, reflect, or feel less alone —📲 Subscribe, share it with a friend, or leave a quick review.For more tools to help you learn with enthusiasm and lead with purpose, visit vellelogos.com.
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Fail Forward: Barry Walton on Storytelling, Suffering, and the Unknown Adventurer
Barry Walton is a producer, award-winning filmmaker, and published author with over two decades of experience crafting impactful stories across platforms. He has led major productions for global networks like NatGeo and Animal Planet, and worked with premier organizations including the NBA and NHL. His Emmy Award-winning work has taken him from the Himalayas to Italy and across the U.S., always with a focus on execution, budget discipline, and measurable results. As the author of The Unknown Adventure and director of four documentaries available on Amazon Prime, Barry blends his narrative instincts with production expertise to create stories that resonate deeply with audiences.See his producer bio, documentary films, and his book The Unknown Adventurer. In this episode of Teach Coach Mentor, host Mike Wish sits down with Emmy-winning filmmaker and author Barry Walton for a raw, honest, and unforgettable conversation about what it really means to pursue your dreams—and survive them. From living on a sailboat with a camera and a dream to navigating the brutal truths of failure, Barry shares his personal hero's journey, one defined by adventure, insecurity, resilience, and transformation.Together, Mike and Barry explore:The power of personal narrative: how the stories we tell ourselves shape our futuresThe myth vs. reality of chasing a dream—and what happens when they collideWhy suffering is often the secret ingredient of growth and clarityLessons from the hero's journey, from failure in 3rd grade to success behind the cameraWhat it means to “fail forward” and how to teach that mindset to othersBarry’s unorthodox approach to filmmaking, generative learning, and sidestepping formal educationBalancing passion with self-awareness: knowing when to burn the boats, and when to take the safer pathThis isn’t just a story about documentary filmmaking or personal development—it’s a conversation about life’s thresholds, how to cross them, and what’s waiting on the other side. Perfect for teachers, coaches, mentors, and anyone wrestling with their next big leap.🎧 Listen now to learn why failing might just be your best move forward.
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Tom Hathaway: You Can Be Miserable Anywhere
🎙️ Episode 001: Learning with Purpose — Tom Hathaway on Experience, Self-Awareness, and Leading OthersWelcome to the first episode of Teach Coach Mentor — the podcast that’s all about learning how to learn, and helping others do the same.In this conversation, host Mike Wish sits down with Tom Hathaway — a Marine infantry officer, educator, and leadership coach — to explore how we learn, how we teach, and what it really means to grow.Tom reflects on his journey from the battlefields of Afghanistan to the classrooms of the Naval Academy, where he now teaches leadership and coaches high-performing athletes. The conversation ranges from stories of failure and resilience to the nuanced differences between teaching, coaching, and mentoring.In this episode, we discuss:🎬 Why every student plays a different “movie” in their head during learning — and why that matters for teachers🔍 The power of experience in shaping understanding — and when it leads us astray🧠 Reframing “boring” topics and teaching with humor, passion, and purpose📚 The difference between preparing to learn and preparing to teach — and why teaching forces clarity💡 What it means to coach someone who isn’t receptive — and how to build trust first🪞 How holding up a mirror (not a lecture) leads to real transformation🎯 Why chasing achievements won't make you happy — but meaningful pursuit might🧘♂️ How self-awareness is the foundation of leadership, growth, and happinessQuotable Moments:“Experience is a different kind of learning. It’s a movie you’ve lived—not one you imagined.”“You could be miserable anywhere. The flip side is—you could also be happy anywhere.”“The most important subject you can learn is yourself.”Resources Mentioned:The Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan HaidtThanks for the Feedback by Douglas Stone & Sheila HeenA Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic by William B. IrvineBluey (yes, the kids’ show — with a surprising lesson about ‘boring things’)About Today’s Guest:Tom Hathaway is a Marine Corps infantry officer with leadership experience ranging from combat deployments to Arctic operations. He holds a master’s in Security Studies and teaches leadership at the U.S. Naval Academy, where he also coaches the D2 men’s hockey and endurance teams. He’s passionate about unlocking potential through reflection, coaching, and challenge.🎧 Like what you heard?Subscribe, leave a review, or share this episode with someone who teaches, coaches, or mentors in your world. For more resources and conversations, visit vellelogos.com (still a work in progress!)Until next time — keep learning, keep leading, and pass it on.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to Teach, Coach, Mentor: the podcast about what it actually takes to reach people. We sit down with teachers, coaches, and mentors who are doing the work and we dig into their methods. How they teach so it lands. How they coach so it sticks. How they mentor so it matters.If you care about getting better at developing others — whether that's in a classroom, on a field, in a workplace, or across a lifetime — this show is for you.I'm your host, educator and coach, Mike Wish. Let's get after it.
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