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That's What They Say

Funner, snuck, and LOL are all things that we're hearing people say these days.That's What They Say is a weekly segment on Michigan Public that explores our changing language. University of Michigan English Professor Anne Curzan studies linguistics and the history of the English language. Each week she'll discuss why we say what we say with Michigan Public All Things Considered host Rebecca Hector.That's What They Say airs Fridays at 4:45 p.m. and Sundays at 9:35 a.m. on Michigan Public and you can podcast it here.Do you have an English or grammar question? Ask us here!

  1. 20

    TWTS: Are we canceling adverbs?

    Adverbs don’t always get a lot of love, captured powerfully in the writing tip “Abolish the adverbs.”

  2. 19

    TWTS: Scrimping, skimping, and the degrees of frugality

    We scrimp and we save, and we skimp and we still save, which makes one wonder whether scrimping is different from skimping

  3. 18

    TWTS: From fishmongers to warmongers - and warmongerers

    Cheesemongers sell cheese, and gossipmongers usually start the gossip or spread it, rather than sell it.

  4. 17

    TWTS: The death of doornails

    Many of us don’t talk about doornails very often, but sometimes we will when things are really, well, dead.

  5. 16

    TWTS: When "f" and "v" were sort of one

    If you know how the sound "f" worked in Old English, it suddenly isn’t mysterious why the "f" in "leaf" turns into a "v" in the plural form "leaves."

  6. 15
  7. 14

    TWTS: Why no one is "gonna Pittsburgh"

    If I say I’m gonna do it, I don’t necessarily mean I’m headed out the door right now to do it.

  8. 13

    TWTS: From "6-7" to sixes and sevens

    2025 had lots of people talking about sixes and sevens, but not in the loose ends kind of way.

  9. 12

    TWTS: A hangout is a great place to hang out

    Next time you’re hanging out with friends, you can debate just how slangy the phrasal verb ‘hang out’ is.

  10. 11

    TWTS: Fore! It's a lightning round

    This may be one of the only times that throw pillows, golf, and curling all get wrapped into the same discussion.

  11. 10

    TWTS: Humbled in victory, humbled in defeat

    When we get schooled at something, we may feel humbled by the experience; but when we win something, we may also say we feel humbled by the experience.

  12. 9

    TWTS: When a reign becomes rain

    When terror rains down, we suddenly have a spelling question.

  13. 8

    TWTS: The Declaration of ... Independency?

    The Declaration of Independence could readily have been the Declaration of Independency.

  14. 7

    TWTS: Bereft or just lacking?

    We can be bereaved, we can be bereft, and sometimes we can be both bereaved and bereft.

  15. 6

    TWTS: The wonky journey of "wonky"

    There are a few different ways to be wonky, some of which are positive and some of which, not so much.

  16. 5

    TWTS: Not all sounds resonate

    The way some people use "resonate" doesn't resonate with all of our listeners.

  17. 4

    TWTS: If you're in hurry, you should scurry

    If we’re involved in a hurry-scurry retreat or a harum-scarum dash, perhaps things are also helter-skelter.

  18. 3

    TWTS: The right snuff

    If you’re not up to snuff, you’re not up to scratch and maybe you don’t get a cigar.

  19. 2

    TWTS: A recurring question can reoccur

    This week’s question has not been a recurring one, by which we mean it has occurred once and not reoccurred.

  20. 1

    TWTS: For crotchety cranks who crochet

    If it seems unlikely that crotchety people are related, at least etymologically, to those who do crochet, stay tuned.

  21. 0

    TWTS: The American Dialect Society's 2025 Word of the Year is...

    Given how much we’re talking about AI right now, it’s no surprise that AI-related words featured prominently in this year’s word of the year vote.

  22. -1

    TWTS: Generics

    Sometimes we don’t realize that we’re using a trademarked term differently from those around us.

  23. -2

    TWTS: When language gets spicy

    We can pepper our food or pepper our speech or, if the mood strikes us, we can be peppy in a pep rally kind of way.

  24. -3

    TWTS: Wishes for good fortune and days off

    ‘Tis the season to talk about "‘tis" and "‘twas" and, while we’re at it, "hap."

  25. -4

    TWTS: Keep your trousers, breeches, and pants on

    If you’re too big for your britches, maybe you’re all mouth and trousers.

  26. -5

    TWTS: A brief history of pants

    The word "pants" has oodles of good linguistic stories to tell, and that’s no pile of pants.

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Funner, snuck, and LOL are all things that we're hearing people say these days.That's What They Say is a weekly segment on Michigan Public that explores our changing language. University of Michigan English Professor Anne Curzan studies linguistics and the history of the English language. Each week she'll discuss why we say what we say with Michigan Public All Things Considered host Rebecca Hector.That's What They Say airs Fridays at 4:45 p.m. and Sundays at 9:35 a.m. on Michigan Public and you can podcast it here.Do you have an English or grammar question? Ask us here!

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Anne Curzan, Rebecca Hector

Produced by Michigan Public

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