The $10 Million MSP Podcast

A $15.5M MSP in rural Nebraska. No major market. No shortcuts.Most MSP owners assume scale requires geography, talent density, or luck. This conversation challenges that.Brian Hoppe sits down with Ed Knott, who built Applied Connective Technologies from 2 people to 68 employees, to unpack what actually drives growth beyond $10M.This is not a conversation about tactics. It’s about the shift most owners struggle to make.In this episode:- What really changes between a $5M and $10M MSP owner- How to build and retain a team in a constrained market- Why client experience and retention become the primary growth engine- The transition from founder-led hustle to leadership-driven scale- What “financial maturity” actually looks like inside an MSP If you’re thinking about what it takes to build a business that scales beyond you, this is the conversation.If you want to go deeper on the levers behind growth and valuation, you can get the Value Creation Blueprint here: https://brianhoppe.com/blueprint/Key Moments1:06 – The real difference between $5M and $10M MSP owners7:32 – Building in a rural market and why geography didn’t matter12:24 – Hiring and retaining talent when your market is constrained19:05 – The moment an owner has to let go25:11 – How sales evolves as the business scales32:58 – Retention as a strategic growth driver36:35 – Using leading indicators to run the business45:42 – The biggest mistake Ed made as a leaderConnectBrian Hoppehttps://brianhoppe.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianhoppeEd KnottApplied Connective Technologies https://appliedconnective.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-knott-a218535/