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The AAMFT Podcast
by American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
The AAMFT Podcast is an all-access pass to the latest news, developments, and thought leaders in the world of systemic therapy. Hosted by Dr. Eli Karam, it strives to relate, educate, and innovate one episode at a time. The episodes explore topics that relationship-based therapists care about, and features unique conversations and interviews with established experts. The show provides information and education on direct practice and emerging trends in the MFT profession.
Episodes
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Episode 149:All-Star Panel Series with Doug Breunlin, Jay Lebow, & Bill Pinsof
In this All-Star Panel episode, Eli is joined by Doug Breunlin, Jay Lebow, & Dr. Bill Pinsof for a discussion about the balance between theory and relationship, the role of feedback in improving outcomes, and the enduring importance of curiosity and collaboration in the therapy room.
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Episode 148: Contextual Family Therapy
In this episode of the AAMFT Podcast, Eli welcomes Dr. Catherine Ducommun-Nagy and Dr. Manijeh Daneshpour for an engaging exploration of Contextual Family Therapy and the foundational concepts of relational ethics, invisible loyalties, trust, fairness, and accountability across generations.
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Episode 147: Training the Next Generation of Systemic Therapists
In this episode, Eli is joined by Dr. Ben Caldwell, Dr. Sarah Lyon & Dr. Sofia Georgiadou for a conversation reflecting on the evolving landscape of MFT education, supervision, and training, exploring how programs can prepare emerging clinicians for the complexity, responsibility, and privilege…
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Episode 146:All-Star Panel Series with Fred Piercy & Sean Davis
In this episode of The All-Star Panel Series, Eli is joined by mentor and mentee Sean Davis and Fred Piercy for a heartfelt conversation about the pivotal moments that shaped their professional journeys and the enduring importance of mentorship in the development of systemic therapists.
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Episode 145: Danica Patrick and Vienna Pharaon
In this groundbreaking episode, Dr. Eli brings together female sports legend Danica Patrick and esteemed LMFT, Vienna Pharaon, for an intimate conversation about the transformative power of systemic therapy. Together, they delve into Danica's journey of healing from an emotionally abusive...
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Episode 144:Couples Therapy for Relationships with Eating Disorders
In this episode, Eli and Dr. Kim Lampson discuss the role of shame and secrecy in relationships, the lived experience of the non-eating disorder partner, and how therapists can help couples navigate difficult conversations.
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Episode 143: All-Star Panel Series Bill Doherty & Patricia Papernow
The All-Star Panel Series continues with a thoughtful and deeply meaningful conversation featuring Bill Doherty and Patricia Papernow two of the most respected voices in the study of commitment, relationships, and family life.
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Episode 142: Marginalized Couples in Therapy
In this episode, Eli is joined by Akilah Riley-Richardson for a discussion about systemic trauma, relational power, and culturally responsive couple therapy. Drawing from her book Marginalized Couples in Therapy, Akilah explores how race, gender identity, sexuality, and societal oppression shape...
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Episode 141: The Self Leads the Way: The Future of IFS
In this episode, Dick Schwartz and Toni Herbine -Blank join Eli to discuss the future of Internal Family Systems therapy. This conversation will explore how the model continues to evolve—shaping trauma treatment, couples work, and the broader psychotherapy landscape.
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Episode 140:All-Star Panel Series Dick Schwartz & Toni Herbine-Blank
In this episode of The All-Star Panel Series, our host Eli is joined by Dr. Dick Schwartz and Toni Herbine-Blank to explore the role of compassion, curiosity, and self-leadership in helping individuals and couples move beyond protective patterns toward deeper connection. Listen wherever you get...
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Episode 139: AAMFT All-Star Panel Series Froma Walsh, Celia Falicov & Mary Jo Barrett
In this installment of the All-Star Panel Series, Eli is joined by Dr. Froma Walsh, Mary Jo Barrett, and Dr. Celia Falicov for a rich conversation on resilience, trauma, and the essential role of culture in healing.
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Episode 138:All Star Panel Series Jill Freedman, Gene Combs & Diane Gehart
In this second installment of the All-Star Panel Series, Eli is joined by Jill Freedman, Gene Combs, and Diane Gehart for a conversation that will explore the heart of postmodern and integrative systemic therapy—story, meaning, mindfulness, and the transformative power of collaborative dialogue.
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Episode 137: All-Star Panel Series
In the first AAMFT Podcast episode of 2026, Eli introduces the All-Star Panel Series featuring Cloé Madanes and Frank Dattilio for an in-depth conversation highlighting the enduring legacy of the late Norman Epstein. This series is devoted to legacy, mentorship, and the core ideas that advance…
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Episode 136: Loving Someone with Mental Illness
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Michelle Sherman to explore the delicate balance between supportive love and codependency, the hidden struggles of family members, and practical strategies for maintaining connection when mental health creates uncertainty.
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Episode 135: Classic MFT Models Through the Lens of BIPOC Therapists
In this episode, Eli is joined by Dr. Steve Harris and Dr. Ronald Asiimwe, who share insights on representation, mentorship, and making MFT more accessible to diverse practitioners.
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Episode 134: Early Career MFTs
In this episode, Eli hosts a roundtable of six MFTs who share their early career journeys navigating the transition from grad school to successfully obtaining licensure and building caseloads.
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Episode 133: Socio-Emotional Relationship Therapy (SERT)
In this episode of the AAMFT Podcast, Eli is joined by Dr. Carmen Knudson-Martin for an in-depth discussion about Socio-Emotional Relationship Therapy (SERT).
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Episode 132 - The Unspoken Experiences of Systemic Supervisors of Color
On this episode, Eli is joined by Dr. Anderson and Dr. Smith to discuss their research findings and emphasize the unique training needs for supervisors of color and the sociocultural factors that often affect the supervisory relationship.
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Episode 131: Ketamine Assisted Therapy with Couples
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Tammy Nelson to discuss Ketamine Assisted Relational Psychotherapy (KARP) as a potential pathway to release old habitual thoughts and patterns of relating to your partner.
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Episode #130: The Evolution of Systemic Diagnosis
In this episode, Dr. Eli sits down with Dr. Priest to discuss the theory-driven assessment and the EPIC model for diagnosing the history, structure, and boundaries of family systems.
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129: Personal Grief Rituals
In this episode, Dr. Eli sits down with Paul Martin to discuss a new model of mourning that honors the uniqueness of each loss.
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Episode #128: The Importance of Therapist “Way of Being”
In this episode of the AAMFT Podcast, Dr. Eli sits down with Dr. Fife and Dr. Whiting to explore the therapist’s “way of being” as a meta-intervention.
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Episode 127: Managing Gaming and Social Media Habits
In this episode, Eli talks with Dr. Catherine Knibbs about how we use technology in everyday life. They also discuss how to identify when intervention is needed to assist our client systems in mastering problematic uses of technology.
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Episode #126: Navigating Family Estrangement
In this episode, Dr. Eli sits down with systemic therapist Karl Melvin to discuss how clinicians can better support estranged adult clients using Karl’s Estrangement Inquiry Model.
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Episode 125: Single Session Therapy
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Michael Hoyt to discuss guidelines and methods to make a single therapy session efficient and effective for individuals, couples, and families.
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Episode 124: Neurodiverse Couple Therapy
In this episode, Eli is joined by Kelli Murgado-Willard, who discusses assessing, treating, and integrating practical interventions with neurodivergent clients.
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AAMFT Podcast Episode #123: Working with Native American & Indigenous Client Systems
In this episode, AAMFT Leadership Symposium keynote speaker Dr. Laurelle Myhra joins Eli to discuss both the benefits and challenges of conducting systemic therapy with indigenous populations within predominantly Western mental health systems.
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AAMFT Podcast Episode #122: Family Therapy for Caregivers of Dementia
In this episode, Sara Qualls joins Eli to discuss how family therapy may help caregivers cope with symptoms of cognitive impairment while still meeting the needs of multiple relatives.
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AAMFT Podcast Episode #121: Fertility Counseling with Couples
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Kristy Koser for a discussion about helping couples navigating complex decisions while maintaining their relationship after a diagnosis of infertility and pursuing fertility treatments.
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Episode 120: Ron Levant
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Ronald Levant to discuss normative male alexithymia and how he uses Alexithymia Reduction Treatment (ART) to support his clients in their therapy journey.
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Episode 119: Collaborative Divorce
In this episode Eli sits down with Dr. Randy Heller to discuss the similarities and differences between collaborative divorce and traditional divorce mediation.
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Episode: 118 Devin Hussong
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Devin Hussong to talk about integrating humor into the practice of systemic therapy.
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Episode: 117 Kristina S. Brown
In this episode, Eli is joined by the AAMFT Systemic Ethics Textbook editor, Kristina S. Brown, Ph.D., LMFT, to discuss the book and current developments shaping systemic therapy's ethical practice.
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Episode: 116 Kat Hertlein
During this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Kat Hertlein for a discussion about using AI tools to supplement systemic therapy. Tune in to hear Dr. Hertlein explore the benefits and risks of using AI in mental health, including potential data privacy and security issues.
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Episode: 115 Rebecca A. Cobb
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Rebecca A. Cobb, the editor of the new book -The Therapist’s Notebook for Systemic Teletherapy: Creative Interventions for Effective Online Therapy – to explore innovative strategies and ways to adapt in-person therapy interventions for telehealth.
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Episode 114: Shay Thomas DMFT, LMFT and Paul Hokemeyer J.D., Ph.D.
In this engaging episode, Eli hosts a discussion with Dr. Paul Hokemeyer and Shay Thomas, DMFT, LMFT. They delve into the ways in which marriage and family therapists negotiate and make use of various media opportunities.
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Episode 113: Janina Fisher
In this episode, Eli and Dr. Janina Fisher discuss a new way of thinking about shame from a neurobiological perspective—as a survival strategy driving somatic responses of automatic obedience and total submission.
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Episode 112: Christie Eppler
In this episode, Eli sits down with Christie Eppler, PhD, LMFT, to talk about her new book, “Cultivating Systemic Resilience in Therapy.” During this conversation, they discuss how to foster resilience in clinical treatment with individual and relational clients, supervisees, and in the…
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Episode 111: Max Zubatsky, PhD, LMFT, Tai Mendenhall, PhD, LMFT, & Jessica Goodman, PhD, LMFT
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Max Zubatsky, Dr. Tai Mendenhall, and Dr.Jessica Goodman to discuss their perspectives and experiences as supervisors of systemic therapists at all levels of training.
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MFT License Portability
In this episode, Eli interviews AAMFT's very own Chief Advocacy Officer, Roger Smith, to discuss AAMFT's efforts in developing a model of MFT license portability in order to promote more objectivity in assessing qualifications, as well as standardization between states in our increasingly mobile...
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Episode 109: Dafna Lender
On this episode of the AAMFT Podcast, Dafna Lender, LCSW, speaks to Eli about secure attachment of children with their caregivers, and the importance of playfulness and rupture repair in the parent-child relationship.
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Episode 108: Sue Johnson, Jim Furrow & Gail Palmer
It is with profound sadness that we announce the passing of Dr. Sue Johnson on April 23, 2024. In this very special tribute episode, we hear from Sue in her own words about her childhood and professional legacy. Sue was also a cherished friend whose warmth and wisdom profoundly touched all who…
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Episode 107: Barry McCarthy
In this episode, we confront the traditional male-female power struggle over intercourse frequency and replace it with a new understanding in which both women and men value affectionate, sensual, playful, and erotic touch.
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Episode 106: Martha Kauppi
In this episode, LMFT Martha Kauppi, sits down with Eli to explore polyamory from a systemic therapist's perspective. Martha is a therapist, author, speaker, and educator specializing in complex relational therapy, sex issues, and alternative family structures.
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Episode 105: Ramani Durvasula
In this episode week's episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Durvasulais to explore the telltale behavioral patterns of narcissism and techniques that you can use with your client to encourage healing and growth.
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Episode 104: Harville Hendrix & Helen LaKelly Hunt
In this episode, Eli sits down with married couple's therapists Harville Hendrix and Helen Lakelly Hunt, to discuss the unique challenges of approaching relationships with mindfulness and empathy. Their renowned Imago Relationship Therapy model, now being taught internationally, focuses on…
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Episode 103: Don Posner
In the first installment of 2024 and the beginning of Season 6 of the AAMFT Podcast, Eli speaks with sleep expert, Donn Posner. Dr. Posner is one of the leaders in the field of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBT-I), and the founder and President of Sleepwell Consultants.
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Episode 102: Bill Pinsof
In one of the most personal and revealing interviews in AAMFT Podcast history, Eli explores with Bill his origin story and both his successes and challenges throughout his pioneering journey into systemic therapy integration.
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Episode 101: Steven Porges
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Porges to talk about his latest book aimed at the general public. It definitively presents how Polyvagal Theory can be understandable to all and demonstrates how its practical principles are applicable to anyone looking to live their safest, best…
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Episode 100: Deb Dana
In this episode, Deb and Eli discuss practical Polyvagal skills and how we can use Polyvagal Theory to transform the way we navigate our professional and personal relationships.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The AAMFT Podcast is an all-access pass to the latest news, developments, and thought leaders in the world of systemic therapy. Hosted by Dr. Eli Karam, it strives to relate, educate, and innovate one episode at a time. The episodes explore topics that relationship-based therapists care about, and features unique conversations and interviews with established experts. The show provides information and education on direct practice and emerging trends in the MFT profession.
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American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
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The AAMFT Podcast is an all-access pass to the latest news, developments, and thought leaders in the world of systemic therapy. Hosted by Dr. Eli Karam, it strives to relate, educate, and innovate one episode at a time. The episodes explore topics that relationship-based therapists care about, and...
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