The art of co-existence

This is a clip from our conversation with Evgenia Emets.Like to know more? Find the full episode here at The art of co-existence podcast.Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

This is a clip from our conversation with Diane van der Marel.Like to know more? Find the full episode here at The art of co-existence podcast.Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

Musician and friend of the podcast Mark Oomen makes music. But that's not really what this episode is about.You might know his work from the soundtrack of this podcast, but Mark's world stretches much further than that. We talk about his creative, musical and social projects. Mark makes a pretty compelling case that musicians might just be some of the most important people in the room right now. Not because music is beautiful, but because it can also be political. And connects people. It tells stories that need telling, and ut has the power to start much needed conversations.This one's a musical journey with a message for social change.  🐚  Mark’s souvenir for you: talk to a stranger today, tomorrow and all the days after 📚 and familiarize yourself with the work of Esther Stanford-Xosei Other linksAfroGrooves Arts of ResistenceThe MystefiersMusic Kiala & Afroblaster Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

This is a clip from our conversation with Andrew Carnie. Like to know more? Find the whole conversation here on "The art of co-existence" podcast!Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

For episode #5 we invited Evgenia Emets: a visual artist and founder of Eternal Forest, who believes the land is a sentient being with its own dream. And that if we learn to listen, it will tell us exactly what it needs.  🪨 Her starting point is deep time. In her latest artwork a fossilized tree inspired the question: if forests once covered this land, what stops us from dreaming them back into existence? Evgenia explains how art can play an important role in exploring and understanding deep time and forest time.  🌳 We also unpack her vision for Eternal Forest which she founded with an ambition to create 1.000 forest sanctuaries for 1.000 years. “If we don’t dream 1.000 years, who will?”  📚 The Overstory by Richard Powers  🐚 Evgenia’s souvenir for you: explore how to live in forest time. Find an old growth forest. Observe. What is esthetically and emotionally there? Notice how it feels different from young plantation forests. It might change your life… Find more information on Evgenia's website, on her YouTube channel @EvgeniaEmets and visit www.eternalforest.earth Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

This is a clip from our conversation with George Birch. Like to know more? Find the whole episode here on "The art of co-existence" podcast!Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

We invited Andrew Carnie: a British artist whose work explores the science of our bodies and what it means to be human.🦠 Andrew is inspired by the notion that 38 trillion bacterial cells live inside us, outnumbering our own human cells. So where does You actually end?His art doesn't depict the scientific specifics. It captures the mood of something much bigger: the invisible connections between our bodies, other living beings, and the world around us.🫧 We explore how we continuously exchange with everyone around us. How spending time with a friend literally refreshes your microbiome. How a kiss is partly your body sensing a biological fit.We also ask a bigger question: are our bodies built for this planet only? And what does that mean for how we care for it, and for ourselves?🌊 Andrew's nspiration: you're invited  to think of yourself as hotelier, caretaker not only of the world outside us, but of your inner ecosystem too. Because the sea lives inside us. And in that sense, we carry everything we've ever been.🐚 Andrew's souvenir for you: he gives us a Soap Baby: a life-sized baby cast in soap (one of Andrew's works) that people instinctively want to care for, yet it slowly dissolves in your hands when you use it at the sink. A quiet poem about how we begin disappearing from the very moment we're conceived.Go to https://www.andrewcarnie.uk/ to view Andrew's workHosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

This is a clip from our conversation with Marta de Menezes. Like to know more? Find the whole episode here on "The art of co-existence" podcast!Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

🌊 Heaven is a place on Earth - it’s in the Ocean George Birch from Oyster Heaven enlightens us with all the benefits oyster reefs have to offer us. Oyster Heaven is on a mission to regenerate oyster reefs on a large scale, with a vision that this will positively impact societies on different levels. We learn about the creation of a Mother Reef from start to successful (and continuing) finish, and we dive into the meaning of ecosystem services. It seems that our current (capitalist) economic system is not valuing these correctly. George shares how Oyster Heaven challenges the status quo by offering an eco-positive value system, with oyster reefs. 🧑‍🎨  George’s inspiration: diversify your interests. Finding creative outlets, because different parts of your life can spin each other up in a very beautiful way. 📚 The Unnatural History of the Sea by Callum Roberts 🐚  🦪 George’s souvenir for you: Keep eating oysters. Ask for more oysters. And go out, look at the sea. Not that long ago things were really different, try to look into that - it's wild and cool and it's such a thin shade of what is possible. 🌀Follow Oyser Heaven or go to their website for more information. Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

This is a clip from our conversation with Diane van der Marel. Like to know more? Find the whole conversation here @ the art of co-existence podcast!Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

Marta de Menezes is a Portuguese artist who works at the intersection of art and biology. Here, she explores how biological sciences offer us conceptual and aesthetic opportunities. She is named one of the pioneers of BioArt, but calls herself an artist first; she makes art, and sometimes that art belongs into the field of BioArt, sometimes it doesn't.🧬 In her work she questions the concept of identity in a material and philosophical way.  Marta keeps you on your toes as this conversation goes very deep very quickly. We explore how biology and biotechnology are challenging our perception of ourselves and how her art plays a role in visualizing this. 🌀 Marta poses big questions like “what is art” and “what is the consequence of immortality”. She invites you to join her in meandering her brain paths, and to learn how she turns these questions into art concepts. And did you ever think you could imagine a love story in the biological mechanism of anti-bodies? You will now!📚 Marta’s inspiration: Fiction is Marta’s most inspiring tool. It puts at play different aspects and conditions to the “what if…” question. If you want to imagine possibilities, it helps to read (science) fiction, and experience how your brain imagines these possibilities. 🐚 Marta’s souvenir for you: Pleasure as a souvenir. There is pleasure in knowing and learning new things. Through this exercise, you can become someone else at the end of something. There is pleasure in acknowledging that a transformation occurred over time. 🌀Follow Cultivamos Cultura and Ectopia for more information about artist in residency programs, the Cultivamos Cultura Summer School, collaborative projects and Marta’s role as curator for international shows.Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

In this very first episode of The art of co-existence, Daphne is joined by Diane van der Marel, a Dutch artist, photographer and impact investor. Diane talks about her strong connection to nature, her artistic practice and she shares a very personal story about letting go, grief and nature’s ability to connect on a deeper level. By observing the wild spirit of her garden, Diane has learned to trust that a healthy, composted soil grows strong ecosystems. She applies this metaphor not only in her garden, but also to understand the way we relate to societies, economies and ourselves. Make sure to listen all the way to the end, because she also announces the launch of a very exciting project on her land, starting in spring 2026 - for more information give @oud.terranova a follow on Instagram.Content note: This episode contains a personal story about mental illness and suicide, which some listeners may find distressing.Diane’s inspiration: 👩‍🎨 Anaïs Lopez📚 Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer🐚 Diane’s souvenir for you: try to really connect with something which is alive. Observe with all your senses: your eyes, ears, smell and touch. Set a timer if you like, but just observe for at least 15 to 20 minutes and see what happens. Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast

How exciting that you found us, welcome! Here you'll find deep conversations with artists, designers, philosophers, and thinkers who share their wildest ideas and projects of a more symbiotic future. A future where we see, understand and co-exist with nature.You are invited to the art of co-existence.We'll share a new episode on your favourite podcast-app every two weeks.Hosted by: Daphne FrühmannEditing: Axel FrühmannMusic: Mark OomenInstagram: @theartofcoexistenceAn Ourcelium Publishers podcast