The Circle Investor Podcast

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The Circle Investor Podcast

The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.

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    Episode 25 - Ryan Boyd: What Really Happens When Tenants Stop Paying

    Episode 25 of The Circle Investor Podcast features Ryan Boyd, Indianapolis real estate agent, investor, and world traveler, sharing how he built a career in real estate by finding his niche early, leveraging his own investment experience to attract clients, and developing a reputation as one of the sharpest listing agents and renovation advisors in the Indianapolis market.He opens up on how he stumbled into real estate investing before ever becoming an agent (by using a BRRRR deal on Bigger Pockets to jumpstart an entire client base). From working with out-of-state investors because he looked too young to sell houses, to now leading a team and offering a unique renovation-plus-listing service, Ryan's journey is one of constantly evolving and doubling down on what works.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:How Ryan grew up traveling the US in a van and where his love of travel really started.The travel hacks, credit card stacks, and point strategies that fund his trips around the world.How he used a BRRRR deal and Bigger Pockets to build his first investor clientele.Why he started by working with out-of-state investors.The renovation-plus-listing service that sets him apart from other agents in the market.Why knowing your buyer market by neighborhood is the difference between selling fast and sitting.How to navigate sellers who won't take your advice (and when to let go).The value of in-person networking over online recommendations as your career grows.Why social media success and business success follow the exact same playbook.Bali, Dubai, the Seychelles, and the Emirates business class flight for two that cost $500.Property management horror stories (including one that got very hairy very fast).Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected]  Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/   Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/   You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Course 8 - Foolproof Negotiation Tips For Your Next Real Estate Transaction

    Most investors think negotiation is just about getting the lowest price. No, the real leverage is in the terms.This course breaks down the full landscape of real estate transaction negotiation, from structuring credits and managing due diligence periods to understanding days on market and writing offers that sellers actually take seriously. You'll learn how to approach both sides of the deal with strategy, so you can protect your margins, reduce your risk, and win better terms whether you're buying or selling.Whether you're an investor looking to sharpen your edge or a first-time buyer trying to navigate your first transaction, this course gives you the practical tools to negotiate smarter (not harder).COURSE HIGHLIGHTS:Why negotiation is about far more than just the purchase price.How to use credits strategically to improve your out-of-pocket position.The power of days on market and how to read seller motivation.How to structure an offer that stands out without overreaching on terms.What "a clean offer" means and when to use it as leverage.Due diligence strategy and how to avoid terms that disqualify you before you start.Common negotiation mistakes that kill deals (and how to avoid them).Why discipline and staying out of emotion is your biggest negotiating advantage.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) delivers practical, structured, and experience-driven insights designed to help aspiring or seasoned investors and other real estate participants to thrive in this industry. This series of training courses focuses on real estate investing, property management, and small business operations. While grounded in the Central Indiana real estate market, the principles shared extend beyond the Hoosier state, staying true to the goal of equipping listeners and learners with actionable guidance and real-world insights they can apply immediately.Indianapolis Investor Map:https://earth.google.com/web/@39.82822064,-86.23642807,244.55852422a,143828.53126734d,35y,0h,0t,0r/data=CgRCAggBMikKJwolCiExMXo0Um9JalJtZk5IOHVYd0dvTXpDZ1hlNDZJbDRIU20gAjoDCgEwQgIIAEoICNqbm6sBEAE?_pxl=djoxLGM6YmZjZGJhMzg2MTY0MzAsYTox&authuser=0   Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected]  Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/  Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/  You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com  Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 24 - Bo Turner: Dating Apps Are Dying..Here’s What’s Replacing It.

    Episode 24 of The Circle Investor Podcast features Bo Turner, entrepreneur and founder of Find Fun Indie and Find Indianapolis, sharing how she turned a passion for community and real-life connection into a thriving events business.She opens up about leaving her marketing agency behind, discovering a single’s event concept in Los Angeles, and betting on herself to build something Indianapolis had never seen before. But, the conversation goes deeper than events and fun-filled activities. She touched on the growing need for in-person connection in a post-Covid world, the stigma of meeting people outside of apps, and what it looks like to build a community-driven business by simply creating the experiences you wish already existed.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:How Bo went from running a marketing agency to launching a full-time events business.The LA singles event that inspired her to bring speed dating to Indianapolis.What Find Fun Indie and Find Indianapolis are (and how they're different).Why Indianapolis is 1 to 2 years behind the coasts on social trends.The stigma around in-person dating events and how she's working to change it.The rationale behind Nerd Nights.The food truck park she built in Terre Haute, what went wrong, and what it taught her.Why her sweet spot for events is 50 to 200 people (and why she stopped chasing scale).How Indianapolis is quietly becoming a city of real opportunity for entrepreneurs willing to show up.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected]  Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/   Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/   You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 23 - Eli Stoner: How I Bought My First Flip With Zero Dollars (And Nearly Went Broke Doing It)

    This week’s episode of The Circle Investor Podcast features Eli Stoner, Central Indiana real estate investor and newly licensed agent, sharing how he built a thriving fix-and-flip business with nothing but a few cold calls in his college dorm room. Through grit, hands-on construction experience, and smart systems, he was able to grow it up to 50 flips. He then opens up about the early losses that forced him to level up, how getting his real estate license became the next tool in his belt, and why understanding both the investor and retail sides of a deal makes him a sharper agent for his clients.This conversation also dives deep into the wholesale world. From the good, the bad, and to the gray areas, exploring the ethical questions around representation, regulation, and how savvy investors can protect themselves from bad deals.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why swinging the hammer himself gave him an edge that no course could teach.How he scaled to 50+ flips by building reliable crews, systems, and processes.The decision to get his real estate license and what it adds to his investor toolkit.Wholesaling vs. becoming a licensed agentThe ethical debate around wholesale practices and what sellers often don't know.Why understanding both investors and retail buyers makes you a better agent.How Eli balances running an active flip business while building his agent clientele.The power of social media for building brand authority and generating leads.Advice for new investors: education, mentorship, and knowing your goals first.Why your first few deals need to be grounded on education, not perfectionMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected]  Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/   Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/   You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 22 - Grant Reigner: Why Fear Is Holding You Back in Real Estate

    Episode 22 of The Circle Investor Podcast features Grant Reigner, real estate investor, entrepreneur, and owner of Peak 3 Properties, sharing how he built a scalable real estate business by combining operational experience, strategic partnerships, and a focus on long-term lifestyle design.He shares how he went from a single-family rental to scaling into duplexes, and ultimately making the leap into commercial multifamily, including closing on a 41-unit apartment complex through creative deal structuring and partnerships.This conversation also explores a deeper theme: how experience eliminates fear and unlocks opportunity. He also emphasizes the importance of team building in commercial real estate, showing how the right partnerships not only improve returns, but make the journey more sustainable and fulfilling.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Grant’s transition from tech and construction into real estate investing.How early hands-on experience gave him an edge in evaluating deals.Why fear in real estate often comes from lack of knowledge.Turning a single-family rental into a scalable investment strategy.The shift from residential to commercial multifamily investing.How Grant closed on a 41-unit apartment complex using creative financing.Breaking down seller financing and reducing capital needed to close.Why every commercial deal requires a strong, aligned team.How to structure partnerships and equity in multifamily deals.The importance of networking and mastermind groups for growth.Why chasing lifestyle and freedom can be more powerful than chasing money.How collaboration and community can transform the real estate experience.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected]  Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/   Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/   You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 21 - Steph Weber: Why Waiting Until Retirement is a Mistake

    Episode 21 of The Circle Investor Podcast features Steph Weber, entrepreneur, branding expert, and short-term rental investor, sharing her journey of building multiple businesses while designing a life centered around freedom, family, and intentional living.From starting as a fashion and travel influencer to founding a branding and marketing agency, Steph walks through the pivots that shaped her career and ultimately led her into the world of short-term rentals. She opens up about scaling a co-hosting business to six figures within a year, launching a cabin development project in Kentucky, and building a brand in a competitive and evolving market.This conversation also dives into a bigger question: what are you really building your business for? Steph shares the mindset shift that led her and her family to pursue a year of nomadic living, eventually trading routine for adventure and redefining success beyond revenue goals.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Steph’s transition from influencer to branding agency owner and entrepreneur.How she scaled a short-term rental co-hosting business to six figures in 12 months.The story behind launching a multi-cabin development project in Kentucky.Lessons from taking action without having all the answers in real estate investing.Why guest experience is the key to standing out in the short-term rental market.How design, branding, and amenities directly impact revenue and bookings.The realities of managing short-term rentals and becoming a top-performing property.Shifting from chasing revenue goals to building a lifestyle-driven business.Why Steph and her family chose to pursue a year of nomadic living.Balancing entrepreneurship, family life, and long-term vision.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected]  Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/   Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/   You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 20 - Jake Handley: Real Estate Stories You Wouldn’t Believe Because They're So Crazy

    Episode 20 of The Circle Investor Podcast features Jake Handley, a rising real estate agent with the Live Indy Team at eXp Realty, to break down what it really looks like to build a career in real estate from scratch. Just two years into the industry, Jake shares how he went from having zero experience to becoming part of a rapidly growing team closing tens of millions in volume.This conversation dives into the realities of starting young in real estate, learning through trial and error, and finding your niche in a competitive market. From working with first-time home buyers to navigating investor deals and “creepy basement” properties, Jake gives an unfiltered look into the day-to-day life of an agent. He also shares insights on the importance of education, client relationships, and being part of a team that accelerates growth. Whether you're considering real estate as a career, investing in property, or buying your first home, this episode offers practical lessons and relatable experiences from someone in the trenches.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Jake’s journey into real estate and transitioning from a corporate job to full-time agent.What it’s like starting with zero experience and landing your first deal.The key differences between working with investors vs. first-time home buyers.Why education is crucial when guiding first-time buyers through the process.Common misconceptions about affordability, down payments, and closing costs.The value of joining a real estate team vs. going solo early in your career.How to find your niche and build a client base in a competitive market.Real stories from the field—including unpredictable showings and challenging properties.Lessons on growth, consistency, and building a sustainable real estate business.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected]  Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/   Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/   You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Course 6 - How To Analyze A Real Estate Deal For Beginners

    Most investors think finding a “good deal” is about the price but the real difference comes down to how well you analyze it. Without a clear and consistent approach to deal analysis, it’s easy to overestimate returns, miss key expenses, or get stuck in analysis paralysis.This course walks you through the fundamentals of analyzing real estate deals using a practical, repeatable system. From understanding rent comps and estimating expenses to calculating cash flow, cap rate, and cash-on-cash return, you’ll learn how to evaluate opportunities with confidence. More importantly, you’ll learn how to stay consistent in your analysis so you can quickly recognize what actually makes a deal worth pursuing.Whether you’re buying your first investment property or looking to scale, this course helps you focus on what matters—so you can make decisions based on real numbers, not guesswork.COURSE HIGHLIGHTS:Why consistent deal analysis matters more than perfect accuracy.How to evaluate properties using a simple, repeatable framework.The key metrics every investor should understand (cash flow, cap rate, cash-on-cash return).How to estimate rent using comps and avoid overpricing assumptions.Common expenses investors forget—and how they impact your returns.The importance of accounting for taxes, insurance, and vacancy.How to avoid analysis paralysis and confidently move on a solid deal.Why running multiple deal analyses helps you recognize strong opportunities faster.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) delivers practical, structured, and experience-driven insights designed to help aspiring or seasoned investors and other real estate participants to thrive in this industry. This series of training courses focuses on real estate investing, property management, and small business operations. While grounded in the Central Indiana real estate market, the principles shared extend beyond the Hoosier state, staying true to the goal of equipping listeners and learners with actionable guidance and real-world insights they can apply immediately.Indianapolis Investor Map:https://earth.google.com/web/@39.82822064,-86.23642807,244.55852422a,143828.53126734d,35y,0h,0t,0r/data=CgRCAggBMikKJwolCiExMXo0Um9JalJtZk5IOHVYd0dvTXpDZ1hlNDZJbDRIU20gAjoDCgEwQgIIAEoICNqbm6sBEAE?_pxl=djoxLGM6YmZjZGJhMzg2MTY0MzAsYTox&authuser=0  Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/ Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/ You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 19 - Phil Hipskind: Why Entrepreneurs Are Choosing Indiana to Build What Big Pharma Won’t

    Episode 19 of The Circle Investor Podcast features Phil Hipskind, founder of Genia, to explore the intersection of scientific innovation, entrepreneurship, and building a business from the ground up. With over 30 years of experience as a research scientist at Eli Lilly and Company, Phil shares how his transition from corporate science to leading a grant-funded biotech company was anything but traditional.This conversation goes beyond the surface of biotech and dives into the realities of starting a company without a business background, navigating funding through organizations like the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and building a lean, highly specialized team. From early-stage drug discovery to leveraging AI in modern research, Phil offers a rare look into the systems, risks, and decisions that shape innovation in global health. Whether you're an entrepreneur, investor, or simply curious about how groundbreaking science gets off the ground, this episode delivers valuable insights from someone operating at the cutting edge.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:The difference between biotech and research science (and why Genia operates as a hybrid model).How Phil transitioned from a 30+ year career at Eli Lilly and Company into entrepreneurship.The role of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in funding high-risk, high-impact global health initiatives.Building a company from scratch without prior business experience.Why Indiana offers a strategic advantage for startups and scaling businesses.How Genia contributes to treatments for diseases like tuberculosis, malaria, and Alzheimer’s.The growing impact of AI and machine learning in drug discovery.Lessons on leadership, risk-taking, and building a mission-driven team.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected]  Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/   Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/   You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Course 5 - The Importance of Choosing the Right Property Manager and Its Financial Implications

    Most investors obsess over buying the right deal but overlook the one decision that actually determines long-term returns: the property manager. From tenant placement to maintenance and reporting, the wrong manager can quietly drain your profits, while the right one protects and grows them.This course also breaks down how different property types and locations require different management approaches, and why not every manager is suited for every asset. If you’re investing out of state or planning to scale, knowing how to properly evaluate and work with a property manager is key to making your investments actually perform (not just look good on paper).COURSE HIGHLIGHTS:Why your property manager has a direct impact on your investment performance.The operational responsibilities that influence returns beyond the numbers.How tenant quality, turnover, and maintenance are tied to management quality.Why not all property managers are equipped for every type of asset.The risks of poor communication and lack of transparency.How management decisions can increase or reduce vacancy and expenses.What to look for when choosing a property management partner.Why alignment between investor goals and manager execution matters.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) delivers practical, structured, and experience-driven insights designed to help aspiring or seasoned investors and other real estate participants to thrive in this industry. This series of training courses focuses on real estate investing, property management, and small business operations. While grounded in the Central Indiana real estate market, the principles shared extend beyond the Hoosier state, staying true to the goal of equipping listeners and learners with actionable guidance and real-world insights they can apply immediately.Indianapolis Investor Map:https://earth.google.com/web/@39.82822064,-86.23642807,244.55852422a,143828.53126734d,35y,0h,0t,0r/data=CgRCAggBMikKJwolCiExMXo0Um9JalJtZk5IOHVYd0dvTXpDZ1hlNDZJbDRIU20gAjoDCgEwQgIIAEoICNqbm6sBEAE?_pxl=djoxLGM6YmZjZGJhMzg2MTY0MzAsYTox&authuser=0  Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] Follow us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/ Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/ You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 18 - Anthony Strunz: How Great Property Management Companies Actually Scale

    In this episode of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with Anthony Strunz from Hawk Operations to unpack the operational and financial side of running a successful property management business. While many conversations in real estate focus on acquisitions and deals, this discussion goes deeper into the systems, accounting discipline, and operational infrastructure that actually allow real estate companies to scale sustainably.From the challenges of managing complex portfolios to the importance of aligning financial strategy with day-to-day operations, this conversation highlights the less visible, but extremely important, mechanics that keep real estate businesses running effectively. If you're building a property management company, scaling an investment portfolio, or simply trying to understand how strong operational foundations support long-term growth, this episode offers practical insights from the people working behind the numbers.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why operational systems are critical to scaling a property management business.The role accounting and financial reporting play in long-term real estate success.Why no two property management companies operate the same way.How advisors help operators navigate financial and operational decisions.The balance between standardization and customization in growing businesses.Why transparency and strong reporting build trust with owners and investors.The hidden operational challenges most real estate investors never see.How strong financial infrastructure supports sustainable growth.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.

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    Course 4 - How 1031 Exchanges Work and Why Smart Investors Use Them

    If you’ve ever sold an investment property and felt the sting of capital gains taxes, this course explains how a 1031 exchange allows you to legally defer those taxes and keep more of your capital working for you in real estate.We walk through what a 1031 exchange actually is (and what it isn’t), how it works in real-world investing scenarios, and why understanding the rules, timelines, and risks is critical before you ever list a property for sale. From upgrading asset quality and consolidating portfolios to relocating investments across markets, this episode explores how experienced investors use 1031 exchanges to compound growth over time and where newer investors often get tripped up.This is educational content, not tax advice, but if you’re serious about long-term portfolio growth, asset repositioning, and keeping momentum without unnecessary tax drag, this course provides the foundational understanding you need before making your next move.COURSE HIGHLIGHTS:What a 1031 exchange actually does (tax deferral vs. tax avoidance)When a 1031 exchange applies and when it doesn’tWhy like-kind exchanges must involve investment propertiesHow investors use 1031s to trade up, downsize, or reposition assetsThe compounding power of executing multiple exchanges over timeCritical timelines: the 45-day identification rule and 180-day close windowThe role of a qualified intermediary and why DIY doesn’t workCommon mistakes that derail exchanges before they startSituations where a 1031 exchange may not make financial senseWhy planning ahead and assembling the right team is essentialMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) delivers practical, structured, and experience-driven insights designed to help aspiring or seasoned investors and other real estate participants to thrive in this industry. This series of training courses focuses on real estate investing, property management, and small business operations. While grounded in the Central Indiana real estate market, the principles shared extend beyond the Hoosier state, staying true to the goal of equipping listeners and learners with actionable guidance and real-world insights they can apply immediately.

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    Episode 17 - Daniel McCarty: The Deferred Maintenance Mistake That Rookie Investors Make

    Episode 17 of The Circle Investor Podcast features Daniel McCarty to explore the operational realities behind managing rental properties and building a property management business that actually works. From his early start in real estate to becoming one of the foundational members of the Intrigue team, Daniel shares firsthand insight into what investors often overlook once they own a property.We break down the day-to-day realities of leasing, tenant selection, maintenance management, and the hidden challenges that separate profitable rental portfolios from constant headaches. The conversation also dives into the importance of asset quality, how property class impacts tenant stability, and why many rookie investors underestimate the operational side of owning real estate.If you’re building a rental portfolio or thinking about buying your first investment property, this episode offers a behind-the-scenes perspective on what actually happens after the purchase and how better operational decisions protect your long-term returns.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Daniel’s journey from getting started in real estate to becoming a property management operatorWhy property management is often the most underestimated part of real estate investingThe difference between Class A, B, C, and D rental properties and how that affects tenant qualityHow tenant screening and leasing speed can make or break a dealCommon mistakes rookie investors make when buying distressed propertiesThe operational challenges behind maintenance, repairs, and tenant managementWhy long-term asset quality matters more than short-term deal excitementHow strong systems and experience reduce risk for rental property ownersMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/ Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/ You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.com Upcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Course 3 - A Comprehensive Guide To Choosing The Right Neighborhood In Indianapolis

    Course 3 of The Circle Investor Real Estate Training Course breaks down what actually goes into selecting the right area for your first rental property. From understanding why Indianapolis is a neighborhood-by-neighborhood market (not zip-code-driven like many larger metros) to analyzing appreciation trends, cash flow ratios, and long-term growth potential, this course gives you a practical framework for making smarter location decisions. We also introduce our Indianapolis Investor Map and explain how to use it to evaluate A through D-class neighborhoods, identify paths of progress, and compare diversification versus concentration strategies. If you want to invest with clarity instead of guesswork, this episode lays the foundation.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why Indianapolis must be evaluated neighborhood by neighborhood.The difference between appreciation and day-one cash flow.How Hamilton County and Marion County appreciation can vary dramatically.What “path of progress” means and how to spot it.How amenities, walkability, and development impact property values.Diversification vs. concentration: two different investing approaches.Why visiting neighborhoods in person changes your investment lens.How to avoid analysis paralysis and make confident decisions.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) delivers practical, structured, and experience-driven insights designed to help aspiring or seasoned investors and other real estate participants to thrive in this industry. This series of training courses focuses on real estate investing, property management, and small business operations. While grounded in the Central Indiana real estate market, the principles shared extend beyond the Hoosier state, staying true to the goal of equipping listeners and learners with actionable guidance and real-world insights they can apply immediately.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 16 - Neeraj Singh: His Ultimate Shift From Cancer Research to Real Estate

    This episode of The Circle Investor Podcast features Neeraj Singh as he shares what it actually takes to build and manage a growing real estate portfolio with precision. From navigating financing decisions and market cycles to structuring operations that support long-term growth, this conversation goes beyond surface-level strategy. We break down the importance of risk management, capital allocation, and thinking like an operator, not just a buyer. If you're serious about scaling responsibly, protecting margins, and building systems that support expansion, this episode delivers a grounded perspective on what sustainable growth really demands.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why scaling requires stronger systems and not just additional dealsThe role of discipline in financing and capital allocationHow market cycles influence acquisition timingThe operational blind spots many investors overlookWhy risk management determines long-term survivalThe mindset shift from small portfolio to scalable operationHow clarity in strategy reduces costly decision-making mistakesMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Course 2 - Does The BRRRR Method Still Work In 2026?

    Course 2 of The Circle Investor Real Estate Training Course explains the BRRRR method. From what this strategy offers, how it works, and up to the part where investors often get burned. Whether it’s buying under market value and forcing appreciation to refinancing and repeating the process, we unpack the financial realities behind the strategy and the critical factors most YouTube summaries leave out. We also discuss margin protection, contractor risk, timeline management, refinancing requirements, and why positive cash flow after the refi is the make-or-break filter most investors underestimate. If you’re considering BRRRR as your first deal (or trying to decide whether it fits your experience level, capital position, and market), this episode gives you a clear, practical framework before you commit.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:What the BRRRR method actually requires at each stageThe difference between a true BRRRR deal and a flipWhy margin is protection (not just profit)The two deal filters every BRRRR must passHidden risks: contractors, timelines, permits, and carrying costsWhy out-of-state BRRRR deals are significantly harderWhen BRRRR makes sense and when to avoid itSafer alternatives for first-time investors (buy & hold, house hacking)Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) delivers practical, structured, and experience-driven insights designed to help aspiring or seasoned investors and other real estate participants to thrive in this industry. This series of training courses focuses on real estate investing, property management, and small business operations. While grounded in the Central Indiana real estate market, the principles shared extend beyond the Hoosier state, staying true to the goal of equipping listeners and learners with actionable guidance and real-world insights they can apply immediately.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 15 - Summer Hudson: What’s Really Happening In Today’s Housing Market?

    In this episode of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with Summer Hudson to break down what it actually looks like to build a sustainable real estate business in today’s market. From navigating complex transactions and client expectations to understanding the long-term implications of financing, positioning, and negotiation, this conversation goes deeper than surface-level tactics. We unpack the mindset required to operate confidently in high-stakes environments, how preparation separates professionals from amateurs, and why clarity always outperforms chaos. If you’re serious about making smarter decisions, protecting your upside, and thinking several moves ahead, this episode delivers practical perspective you can apply immediately.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why strategy matters more than speed in competitive marketsThe hidden risks most buyers and investors overlookHow preparation changes negotiation leverageThe difference between transactional thinking and long-term positioningWhat disciplined operators do differentlyHow clarity reduces costly decision fatigueWhy experience compounds in high-pressure environmentsMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Course 1 - The Real Estate Investor's Guide to Visiting Indianapolis

    In Course 1 of The Circle Investor Real Estate Training Course, we break down how out-of-state investors should actually approach visiting and evaluating the Indianapolis market. This isn’t a tourist guide. It’s a strategic blueprint for understanding neighborhoods beyond spreadsheets, analyzing deals with context, and experiencing the city the way your future tenants will. From street-by-street nuances and rental-friendly policies to where to stay, what to explore, and how to structure property tours efficiently, this course lays the groundwork for making informed, confident investment decisions in one of the most investor-friendly markets in the country.If you’re considering buying in Indianapolis, this is your starting point.COURSE HIGHLIGHTS:Why Indianapolis is widely regarded as an investor-friendly, cash-flowing marketWhy spreadsheets alone don’t tell the full story of a neighborhoodHow to evaluate street-by-street differences in A, B, and C class areasWhy staying in an Airbnb beats staying in a hotelTop neighborhoods to explore: Broad Ripple, Fountain Square, Mass Ave, and moreHow to structure property tours (and why 4–6 per outing is the sweet spot)Why respecting your agent’s time can directly impact your investing successHow to plan your visit around events, sports, and local cultureMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s course! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) delivers practical, structured, and experience-driven insights designed to help aspiring or seasoned investors and other real estate participants to thrive in this industry. These series of training courses focuses on real estate investing, property management, and small business operations. While grounded in the Central Indiana real estate market, the principles shared extend beyond the Hoosier state, staying true to the goal of equipping listeners and learners with actionable guidance and real-world insights they can apply immediately.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 14 - Scott Chain: Why Most People Stay Broke (And Don’t Realize It)

    Most people are attracted to real estate for the freedom. Few are prepared for what it actually demands.In this episode of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with Scott Chain to talk about entrepreneurship, long-term commitment, and the realities of building a business in a commission-based industry. From navigating inconsistent income and pressure-filled seasons to developing the discipline and mindset required to stay in the game, this conversation unpacks what separates those who last from those who burn out. If you’re serious about ownership, sustainability, and creating a career on your terms, this episode delivers the honest perspective most people don’t hear when they first get started.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why freedom in real estate comes with responsibilityThe mental shift required to survive commission-based incomeWhat most new agents underestimate about entrepreneurshipThe difference between short-term wins and long-term careersWhy commitment — not motivation — determines longevityHow building resilience impacts financial outcomesMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 13 - Darien Sharpe: Making Money Work For You

    Most people don’t fail in real estate because of lack of ambition—they fail because they underestimate the discipline it takes to stay consistent long enough to win.In this episode of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with Darien Sharpe for an honest conversation about ambition, work ethic, and what it actually looks like to build momentum in real estate from the ground up. From early career pressure and social media expectations to the unglamorous daily habits behind growth, Darien breaks down how mindset, consistency, and long-term thinking separate professionals who last from those who burn out. This episode dives into the gap between where most people say they want to go and what they’re actually willing to do to get there and why clarity, patience, and self-awareness matter more than hype.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why ambition without discipline leads to frustrationThe pressure young professionals face in performance-driven industriesHow social media distorts expectations around successThe importance of consistency over short-term winsWhat early-career growth really looks like behind the scenesWhy patience and long-term vision matter more than fast resultsMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 12 - David Brinkworth: Building Wealth Over Time

    Most real estate mistakes don’t happen at purchase, they happen in how the property is managed after closing.In this episode of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with David Brinkworth to talk through the unfiltered realities of property management, investor decision-making, and why speed, oversight, and alignment matter more than most owners realize. From costly delays and maintenance bottlenecks to the difference between institutional ownership and hands-on investing, this conversation breaks down how small decisions compound into real financial consequences. If you’re focused on protecting cash flow, minimizing risk, and running your portfolio like a business—not a hobby—this episode pulls back the curtain on what actually moves the needle.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why slow decisions can quietly destroy cash flowThe real cost of vacancies, deferred maintenance, and approval delaysHow hands-on oversight separates private investors from institutionsWhy urgency isn’t emotional—it’s financialThe operational differences between small portfolios and large hedge fundsWhat investors often misunderstand about day-to-day property managementMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 11 - Corey Crabbs: Why Rentals Are Getting Harder

    In this episode of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with Corey Crabbs, owner of C2C Construction, to talk about what he’s seen from every angle of real estate—from national property management and post-2008 foreclosure programs to launching a local construction business rooted in speed, quality, and accountability. Corey breaks down why cutting corners often costs more in the long run, how “good, fast, cheap” became a broken model, and why local operators feel the consequences that large hedge funds never do.We dig into real numbers behind emergency repairs, the true cost of vacancies, and how delayed decisions impact tenants, renewals, and cash flow. Corey also shares insight into the shortage of skilled trades, why education and mentorship matter more than ever, and how regulation, rent caps, and HOA restrictions are reshaping investor strategy across Central Indiana. This is a candid, boots-on-the-ground conversation about responsibility, sustainability, and building real value in today’s housing market.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why “doing the right thing” for tenants often protects investor cash flow.The real math behind fast repairs vs. prolonged vacancies.How Corey transitioned from national property management to local construction.The breakdown of the “good, fast, cheap” myth—and why you can’t have all three.The growing shortage of skilled trades and why companies are paying to train workers.How hedge fund ownership changes oversight, urgency, and neighborhood outcomes.What rent caps, HOA rules, and local regulation could mean for future investors.Lessons from post-2008 foreclosure programs and how they shaped today’s SFR market.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 10 - Dillon Baker: Real Estate Isn’t Sexy But It Works

    Episode 10 of The Circle Investor Podcast features Dilon Baker for an honest, experience-driven conversation about what real estate investing actually looks like once the hype wears off. From understanding how much capital you truly need to stay in the game to why patience, preparation, and education matter more than quick wins, this episode cuts straight to the realities that separate sustainable investors from those who burn out early.Dillon shares candid lessons from the field—breaking down why buying the wrong deal can permanently sideline investors, how underestimating maintenance and reserves creates financial stress, and why long-term thinking is the only real way to win in real estate. Whether you’re considering your first investment or trying to scale responsibly, this episode offers grounded insight into risk, discipline, and playing the long game the right way.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why having enough money to buy a property doesn’t mean you have enough to own it.How investors get knocked out of the game by short-term thinking and poor capital planning.Real-world stories of tenant issues, unexpected repairs, and costly learning curves.The importance of reserves, margin discipline, and planning for worst-case scenarios.Why education and honest guidance matter more than chasing “good deals.”How playing the long game creates stability, appreciation, and sustainable growthMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 9 - Alex Montagano: Passive Homeownership Doesn’t Pay

    In this episode of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with Alex Montagano to break down the realities of today’s housing market—from affordability myths and interest rate psychology to why waiting for “perfect timing” often backfires. Alex shares a grounded perspective on how buyers, investors, and homeowners should think about appreciation, long-term wealth, and making informed decisions instead of reacting to headlines.We dive into why many people underestimate their buying power, how rent vs. ownership really impacts financial growth, and what Midwest markets like Indianapolis reveal about demand, inventory, and sustainability. This episode challenges common assumptions about rates, mortgages, and market cycles—and offers practical insight for anyone trying to navigate real estate with clarity instead of fear.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why trying to “outsave the market” often keeps buyers stuck on the sidelinesHow appreciation quietly outpaces income growth and savings over timeThe truth about waiting for interest rates to fall—and why that strategy can stall progressHow rent, ownership, and equity play very different roles in long-term wealth buildingWhy Midwest markets continue to show resilience despite national uncertaintyMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 8 - Amanda Alexander: The Real Truth About Property Management

    In episode 8 of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with Amanda Alexander to unpack the growing tension between housing demand, affordability, and regulation in today’s real estate market. From HOA expansion and rental restrictions to investor responsibility and long-term neighborhood health, this conversation cuts through surface-level narratives and gets into how policy decisions actually impact buyers, landlords, and communities.Amanda shares real-world insights on why inventory, governance, and education matter more than headlines, how investor behavior is often misunderstood, and why reactionary rules can create unintended consequences for homeowners and renters alike. This episode is a grounded look at what’s really shaping local housing markets—and what smart investors and homeowners should be paying attention to next.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:How HOA expansion and rental restrictions are reshaping investor strategyWhy limiting rentals doesn’t automatically improve neighborhood qualityThe role education plays in creating healthier housing marketsHow demand, inventory, and regulation intersect at the local levelWhy long-term thinking matters more than short-term political winsMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 7 - Sean Hartwick: The Truth About Real Estate Influencers

    Episode 7 explores the intersection of real estate, social media, and market psychology with Sean Hartwick, a Keller Williams agent and one of Indianapolis’ most recognizable local creators. From being a “micro-influencer” to navigating shifting interest rates, agent saturation, and buyer paralysis, Sean breaks down what’s actually happening in the Indy market—and why boring, steady markets often win long term. We talk appreciation myths, transaction volume realities, why chasing viral monetization usually backfires, and how Indianapolis continues to quietly position itself as one of the most resilient housing markets in the country.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Why most real estate creators aren’t actually making money on social media (and why that’s a good thing).The difference between home price growth and transaction volume—and why agents are feeling the squeeze.How Indianapolis compares to “boom and bust” coastal markets like California, Austin, and Denver.What realistic appreciation looks like in Indy versus the post-COVID anomaly years.Why waiting for 3% interest rates may leave buyers permanently sidelined.The real risks behind 50-year mortgages—and when they might make sense.How steady, unsexy markets quietly outperform over time.Why infrastructure, affordability, and slow growth are Indy’s secret weapons.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 6 - Geoffrey Jones: If Your Lender Offers 100% Financing, Watch This First

    Episode 6 dives into the world of private and hard money lending with Jeffrey Jones, a sales manager and loan officer at Loan Mountain Capital. From SBA microlending to balance-sheet private lending, Jeff breaks down how real estate investors should think about leverage, risk, and capital—especially in a market where “100% financing” sounds sexy but can quietly wreck your margins. We unpack what really separates smart lenders from predatory ones, why underwriting discipline matters, and how investors can protect themselves by understanding where the money actually comes from.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Jeffrey explains why true 100% financing often costs investors more than they realize—and when it might actually make sense.The difference between private lending and balance-sheet lending (and why it matters when markets tighten).How interest, origination points, and rehab draws quietly eat into flip profits.Why lenders who “approve everything” are a major red flag.How experienced lenders stress-test deals to protect both the investor and the capital.The importance of margin discipline in flips, BRRRRs, and long-term buy-and-hold strategies.What investors should ask lenders to avoid getting trapped in bad debt structures.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 5 - Andy Rucker: Real Estate Agents Don't Want You To Know This

    In this episode of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with Andy Rucker, Director of Sales at Trueblood Real Estate, to unpack what’s really happening behind the scenes of today’s real estate industry. From Zillow’s rebrand from Flex to Preferred, to how large brokerages actually compete, collaborate, and scale across markets, Andy shares candid insights on lead-based models, agent growth, and why real estate is ultimately a people-first business. The conversation also dives into affordability, market education, and timely topics like 50-year mortgages—exploring how new financial tools, appreciation, and mindset shape long-term success for both agents and buyers in today’s market.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Andy explains how Zillow Preferred works, why the rebrand matters, and how lead platforms fit into a modern brokerage model.We explore how brokerages compete while still collaborating across markets, and why strategy sharing changes when you’re outside your local territory.Andy walks through his personal journey from property management into real estate leadership and what betting on yourself really looks like in this business.A candid discussion breaks down why real estate is more personal than transactional, and how managing expectations is a core part of serving clients well. We unpack the pros, cons, and long-term implications of 40- and 50-year mortgages, including how appreciation and affordability factor into the debate.The episode closes with insights on agent branding, why “you are the brand,” and what truly drives sustainable, organic growth in real estate.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 4 - Richard Vinson: Why So Many Investors Are Rushing To Indianapolis

    The 4th episode of The Circle Investor podcast features Richard Vinson—real estate agent, operations manager, investor, and longtime member of the Intrigue Real Estate & Property Management team. We dive deep into the realities of investing in Central Indiana, from navigating the current market and understanding 1031 exchanges to identifying strong neighborhoods, finding turnkey opportunities, and managing rentals with clarity and strategy. Richard also shares personal insights on balancing work and family, the evolution of local neighborhoods, and how logistics strangely prepared him for real estate. This episode is packed with practical guidance for new and seasoned investors, plus a behind-the-scenes look at life in the Indianapolis market.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:Richard explains how 1031 exchanges work, why timing matters, and how investors should approach property identification with strategy and urgency.A discussion about the pros and cons of turnkey assets vs. renovation-heavy properties, and identifying which are ideal for out-of-state investors.Everyone chimes in on how they balance work, investing, and family life—and how Indianapolis offers great weekend activities for families to enjoy.Richard reflects on transitioning from logistics into real estate and how those skills translate to property management and investing.We unpack rental caps, HOA restrictions, and why policies in Fishers and Carmel are reshaping the rental landscape.The episode wraps with insights on working with contractors, tenant relations, inspections, and what first-time investors could do with $40K.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 3 - Chase Eckelbarger: The Biggest Red Flag In Real Estate

    Episode 3 features a general contractor, business builder, investor, and owner of Investor Priced Services - Chase Eckelbarger. His company serves investors, homeowners, and out-of-state buyers with high-quality project management and renovation services across Central Indiana.Chase opens up about his journey from flipping houses in 2019 to building a construction company rooted in communication, transparency, and systems. We dig into how contractors think, the red flags investors miss, the realities of pricing and change orders, dealing with subs, using tech to stay organized, and what out-of-state investors really need to know about the Indianapolis market.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:What flippers and investors usually get wrong about contractors.How transparent communication solves 90% of construction and project problems and why he thinks responsive and quick communication becomes a contractor’s superpower. Chase explains the “rob Peter to pay Paul” system that contractors must avoid at all times.He enumerates contractor ‘red flags’ that everyone should be aware of (some might even come from names recommended by ‘big name’ companies).How to properly approach due diligence as an out-of-state investor.Chase explains how the buy-and-hold strategy impacts flip margins in a competitive Indy market.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 2 - David Powell: Can The Housing Market Crash Again?

    In episode 2 of The Circle Investor Podcast, we sit down with David Powell - President and Senior Mortgage Officer at Powell Home Mortgage - as he describes his observations of the past two decades in the mortgage industry. He breaks down what the “Wild West” days of 2008 are like, how lending standards evolved after the 2008 crash, why housing affordability feels so impossible for younger generations, what’s driving the supply crunch, and how investors can get started with strategies like house hacking. The conversation gets into market cycles, Fishers/Carmel rental caps, builder trends, and David’s own predictions for whether we’ll ever see another housing crash.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:David shares how he went from an IU journalism grad to stumbling into mortgages right out of college — and staying for 20 years.He explains unbelievable old practices in the mortgage industry. From 100% financing, stated-income loans, and almost little-to-none verification and how all of these changed after the housing crash of 2008.How today’s tight lending standards and required down payments make another massive housing collapse unlikely.The guys talk about why millennials and Gen Z struggle with homeownership despite paying high rent — and why builders keep pumping out large, expensive homes.He explains smart entry strategies for new investors: multifamily house hacking with low-down-payment loans, leveraging home equity, and the “rinse and repeat” method.Everyone discusses the new rental restrictions hitting Hamilton County and how they’ll reshape investor strategy and rental demand.Make sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.Do you have any questions, suggestions, or simply want to reach out? Contact us through this email address:Gmail = [email protected] us on all of our socials:Facebook = www.facebook.com/thecircleinvestor/Instagram = www.instagram.com/thecircleinvestor/You can also check our our website for more information:Website = www.intriguepm.comUpcoming Investor Meetups = www.intriguepm.com/thecircleindy

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    Episode 1 - Nick Giulioni: How To Go From Side Hustle To Real Business

    In this episode of The Circle Investor podcast, we sit down with multi-business owner and real estate investor Nick Giulioni to unpack what makes a side hustle become a full-blown business. He opens up about building teams, letting go of control, leaning on virtual assistants, and structuring operations so the business runs even when you’re not monitoring it 24/7. Whether you’re running a growing company or dreaming up your next move, this one’s packed with sharp insight and real talk from someone who’s lived it.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTSHow delegation became Nick’s superpower for reducing overwhelmWhy hiring a virtual assistant can change your entire workflowThe difference between running a business vs. running a rentalDeveloping trust, systems, and leadership inside a scaling companyThe mindset shift that separates hobbyists from true entrepreneursMake sure you’re locked in for next week’s episode! We’re keeping the momentum going with more insights, real stories, and strategies to help you build your real estate business. Hit subscribe, tap the notification bell, and don’t miss what’s coming next.

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The Circle's Founder (Ryan Rominger) and Director of Operations (Stuart Smith) discuss what’s happening in the world of Real Estate Investing, Property Management, and running a small business based in Indianapolis. The show focuses on the Central Indiana real estate market, but also explores beyond the Hoosier state to gain intriguing insights in the world of business and real estate investing. We interview our favorite influential people from across Central Indiana (and beyond) to learn from the people having the biggest impact on our market.

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