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The Educated Associate Podcast
by Dr. Tony Schicktanz & Dr. Alex Besmer
The Educated Associate Podcast is the go-to podcast for associate dentists with a vision that extends far beyond the operatory. Built for clinicians who feel a pull toward ownership—even if they’re early in their careers—this show exists to demystify the path from employee to entrepreneur. Whether you’re dreaming of your first startup, evaluating a practice to buy, navigating a transition, or preparing to eventually sell your own practice one day, this podcast gives you the honest, practical, and unfiltered guidance you wish dental school had provided.Ownership isn’t just a career move—it’s a mindset shift. It’s the moment when you stop thinking of dentistry as a job and begin viewing it as a vehicle for autonomy, financial growth, and a practice built around your clinical values. But the journey is filled with unknowns: contracts, valuations, lending, leadership, team culture, insurance dynamics, and the emotional weight of stepping into responsibility. Our mission is to bring clarit
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He Applied to 50+ Jobs, Heard Back from 5, and Bought a Practice by 30 | Mark Pugliese, DMD
He was running an Aspen Dental office solo by month 4. Two years later, his banker called him first about a practice that hadn't even hit the market. Dr. Mark Pugliese went from BU grad to practice owner by 29 — and the path wasn't what you'd expect.This is Part 1 of our conversation — covering dental school, the DSO decision, corporate systems, and exactly how he found and acquired a 39-year family practice in New Hampshire.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:- The DSO "floor/ceiling" framework that reframes the entire corporate vs. private debate- Why applying to 50+ jobs with a "shotgun method" led to the only 5 callbacks that mattered- How his mentor quitting after 1 month became the best training he never planned for- The exact confirmation and callback systems Aspen uses (decoded for private practice)- Howard Farran's "buy the biggest, baddest practice" rule — and Mark's 2 filters for every listing- Why he toured practices he planned to reject — and how that strategy won him first dibs- The due diligence mistake that cost $15K in expired supplies (and why it didn't matter)- The insurance loophole (AVS) that lets him charge premium while staying in-network- How a premium lab with 10x crown costs actually became his biggest selling pointKEY TIMESTAMPS:0:14 - Alex's intro: why Mark had the ideal path to ownership2:55 - "Get their Instagram, not their phone number" — the networking rule9:34 - Why Mark chose Maine (high need, low dentist saturation)12:12 - The super GP who made Mark want to do it all13:32 - The DSO floor/ceiling framework14:10 - His mentor quit month 1 — trial by fire begins17:44 - Running someone else's office: the dials that change production23:59 - Aspen's systems decoded: callbacks, confirmations, walk-in policy32:22 - The 2-year practice search and the banker relationship that changed everything36:30 - The seller blocked all other buyers after one meeting39:43 - Due diligence: what matters, what doesn't, what cost him $15K44:26 - Northeast Delta + Added Value Service Agreements explained46:46 - Why he talks money with every patient in the chairYour contract, reviewed by dentists — not lawyers. Submit at theeducatedassociate.com or DM @the_educated_associate on Instagram.Guest: Dr. Mark Pugliese (@pugliese_dmd) | Wall Street Dental Group, Concord NHFollow: @the_educated_associate | @dr.besmerSubscribe: theeducatedassociate.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theeducatedassociate.substack.com
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The Educated Associate Podcast is the go-to podcast for associate dentists with a vision that extends far beyond the operatory. Built for clinicians who feel a pull toward ownership—even if they’re early in their careers—this show exists to demystify the path from employee to entrepreneur. Whether you’re dreaming of your first startup, evaluating a practice to buy, navigating a transition, or preparing to eventually sell your own practice one day, this podcast gives you the honest, practical, and unfiltered guidance you wish dental school had provided.Ownership isn’t just a career move—it’s a mindset shift. It’s the moment when you stop thinking of dentistry as a job and begin viewing it as a vehicle for autonomy, financial growth, and a practice built around your clinical values. But the journey is filled with unknowns: contracts, valuations, lending, leadership, team culture, insurance dynamics, and the emotional weight of stepping into responsibility. Our mission is to bring clarit
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