the entrustED podcast

In this thought-provoking episode, Pam and Oliver Grenham discuss the vital role of systems leadership in creating sustainable, effective change across an organization. Oliver emphasizes how good systems empower people and foster innovation, and he also shares insights from his co-authored book with Pam, Pioneers of Personalized Education. Together, they explore how structure and vision work hand in hand to transform schools.

Pam sits down with Lori Goldstein to discuss her journey through leadership in education, public service, and elected office. Lori shares how her passion for serving others led her to school boards and political leadership, and how each opportunity helped her grow as both a leader and community advocate. Her story is a testament to how embracing life’s opportunities can create meaningful change.

In this heartfelt conversation, Pam and Kirk Leday dive into the nuances of human resource management and the art of leading with compassion. Kirk unpacks the importance of balancing high expectations with grace, understanding, and care for the people who make schools thrive. With authenticity and humor, he reminds us that effective leadership begins with empathy and humanity.

Explore how athletics can shape and strengthen student leadership. Gabe shares how sports build resilience, teamwork, and confidence, revealing the power of coaching and mentorship to unlock potential.

Up and Comers with Mason & Sophie: Hear directly from the next generation of leaders — students. Mason and Sophie share candid insights on leadership, learning, and growing up as the children of educators. Their authentic voices remind us that wisdom often comes from the youngest among us.

🎙 Lessons from the Chair - Featuring Charlotte Ciancio & Dr. Chris Fiedler 🎙Listen now to the entrustED podcast with a powerful episode featuring two seasoned CEOs in education: Charlotte Ciancio and Dr. Chris Fiedler.These retired superintendents led major district transformations, from policy innovation and bond measures to navigating rapid growth and a global pandemic. In this candid conversation, they share the surprises, triumphs, and “you can’t make this up” moments of leadership at the highest level, plus a friendly “battle of the isms” you won’t want to miss.Whether you’re growing into leadership or simply curious about life in the superintendent’s seat, this episode is the perfect finale to an inspiring first season.👉 Tune in for reflection, laughter, and real-world lessons.🎧 Listen now:

🎙 Courageous Conversations - Featuring Claudette Trujillo🎙Leadership isn’t just about big decisions - it’s about the hard conversations that come with them. In this episode of the entrustED, we sit down with Claudette Trujillo - visionary leader, published author, and national speaker - to explore how empathy and honesty drive meaningful leadership.From guiding teams through tough transitions to addressing performance with clarity and care, Claudette shares practical wisdom on leading with conviction, communication, and heart.👉 Tune in for a powerful conversation on the moments that define us as leaders

🎙 Leading in Polarizing Times - Featuring Rep. Shannon Bird 🎙What does it take to lead in times of deep political divide? Colorado State Representative Shannon Bird has been there - rising from PTA volunteer to City Council member to the Joint Budget Committee, where real decisions are made.In this episode of the entrustED, Shannon shares her powerful journey in public service, the challenges of governing in a polarized climate, and the wisdom, courage, and resilience that keep her grounded.👉 Tune in for a candid conversation about leadership, opposition, and staying true to your values - especially when it’s hard.

🎙 Saint & Survivors — Featuring Ken Ciancio 🎙Leadership isn’t a solo act - it’s a team sport built on resilience, courage, and collaboration. In this episode of the entrustED, we sit down with Ken Ciancio to talk about the realities of public service and what it truly takes to represent and uplift a community.From navigating challenges to mentoring future leaders, Ken shares powerful insights on partnership, legacy, and leading through both support and struggle.👉 Tune in for an authentic conversation about leadership in action- and the strength that comes from standing together.

Leadership Strength & Vulnerability — Bret MilesTrue leadership isn’t just about being strong - it’s about being authentic, vulnerable, and willing to grow. In this episode of the entrustED, we sit down with Bret Miles, Executive Director of the Colorado Association of School Executives, to explore the powerful balance between confidence and humility.From teacher to superintendent to advocate, Bret shares honest stories and hard-won lessons on building trust, learning from failure, and leading with heart.Tune in for an inspiring conversation on leading with strength, vulnerability, and purpose.

Great leaders shape great learning environments, and Maria "Lupita" Arce is a shining example of that dedication. As the principal of Sunset Ridge PK-8, Lupita brings years of experience as a teacher, CLDE specialist, and assistant principal, all rooted in a deep passion for student success. In this episode, she shares her journey, the mentors who shaped her path, and her commitment to maximizing educational opportunities for all learners. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on leadership, education, and the impact of family and community in shaping future generations.

Sense of Humor, Don’t Leave Home Without It - Dr. Ryan McCoyLeadership can be tough, but a good sense of humor might just be the secret weapon for success. In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Ryan McCoy, a leader who knows how to balance serious work with laughter. From his roles in education and philanthropy to his time as a school board president, Ryan shares how humor can diffuse tension, build relationships, and bring teams together. We’ll talk about workplace wit, leadership lessons, and maybe even a few dad jokes along the way. Tune in for a fun and insightful conversation on the power of laughter in leadership!

In this episode of the entrustED Dr. Pamela Swanson welcomes Jason Heisler, whose journey from professional dancer to education leader offers a fresh take on leadership, adaptability, and service. They discuss how leadership isn’t about titles, it’s about mindset, influence, and a commitment to excellence at every level. Jason shares how principles from the performing arts discipline, teamwork, and customer service, translate into effective leadership in education. Tune in for insights on fostering leadership in all roles, building strong teams, and leading with a service-first mindset. Don't miss this inspiring conversation!

Grits, Grace, and Mercy – A Leadership Conversation with Kirk LedayWhat do grits, grace, and mercy have to do with leadership? A whole lot! In this episode of The EntrustED, I sit down with Kirk Leday, a fellow HR executive, educator, and leader, to talk about the grit it takes to lead, the grace we must extend, and the mercy that makes us better decision-makers.From our shared Southern roots to our journeys in human resources and leadership, we break down the real responsibilities of HR in education—ensuring the highest standards for those who serve students while also being the conscience of the organization in difficult moments.Leadership isn’t just about policies and procedures—it’s about integrity, tough decisions, and knowing when to lead with heart.Tune in now for a conversation filled with wisdom, experience, and maybe even a few foodie insights!

Trust. Leadership. Legacy.For nearly 40 years, I’ve walked the halls of schools, sat in boardrooms, made tough decisions, and celebrated incredible victories in education. From teacher to principal, HR leader to superintendent, I’ve seen firsthand what it takes to build trust, make bold decisions, and lead with purpose.I’ve been entrusted with the futures of thousands of students, the careers of dedicated educators, and the responsibility of transforming a school district against the odds. But leadership isn’t just about making policies or managing people—it’s about building relationships, standing firm in your values, and having the courage to do what’s right, even when it’s hard.Now, I’m bringing those lessons, stories, and insights to you. Welcome to the entrustED—a space where we explore what it truly means to lead with trust and integrity. Whether you’re a seasoned leader, an aspiring changemaker, or someone searching for inspiration, this podcast is for you.Together, we’ll talk with extraordinary leaders, uncover the strategies that drive real impact, and learn how to navigate leadership with wisdom, resilience, and heart.I’m Dr. Pamela Swanson, and this is the entrustED. Let’s lead with trust.