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The Hustler Files with Lisa Reilly - Stories That Challenge What You Thought You Knew
by Lisa Reilly; Radio Host, Creator, Executive Producer and Podcaster
Hi, I'm Lisa Reilly, and this show is built on one simple belief: true stories can change how we see each other. Each week, I have the privilege to sit down with people from within the various criminal and social justice systems and organizations, including those with lived experience and those working to bring compassion and resources both behind and beyond the walls. All of them approach their lives and work with grit, hope, and purpose, which is what we're here to share because there's always a voice ready to challenge what you thought you knew.THIS IS THE HUSTLER FILES
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THE EMOTIONAL EPICENTER OF A CRIMINAL RECORD
Opportunity, advocacy, and second chances is always a priority conversation when 1 in 3 Americans are justice-impacted. In this episode we highlight, for an inaugural conversation, Rahsaan Hall, President & CEO of the Urban League of Eastern Massachusetts. This enlightening conversation explores the Urban League's mission, its national impact with 93 cities under the Urban League umbrella, and its frontline leadership in championing the Clean Slate Coalition. While there is still no Clean Slate law, in place, in Massachusetts, Rahsaan breaks down the realities of criminal records in Massachusetts where access to employment, housing, and opportunity is often shaped by a past that may no longer reflect who someone is today. Rahsaan speaks to the push for Clean Slate legislation, the effort to automate record sealing, and why removing these barriers is critical not just for individuals, but for families, communities, and the broader economy. As we learn from each episode, behind every record is a story and every story has the power to change how we see each other.
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FROM FELONIES TO FUTURES, TWO STORIES OF SECOND CHANCE HIRING
April is Second Chance Month, and this episode brings two powerful stories that show what can happen when opportunity meets determination. First, we welcome back Brandon Downey, who first joined us in Episode 19 while rebuilding his life after incarceration. Now, several years later, Brandon returns to share how recovery, persistence, and the support of second chance employers helped him transform his future. Today, he is working at the Hampshire County Jail in reentry services, mentoring others, and rebuilding his life as a father. Then, we head to Ohio to meet Lindsey Watzek of JBM Packaging, a company known for its commitment to Fair Chance hiring. Lindsey shares how a felony connected to addiction once left her feeling hopeless, but through the support of a recovery-friendly workplace, she has built a stable, independent life and is now working toward becoming the first female supervisor at her company. Two journeys. Two employers who said yes. And two powerful reminders that when people are given a real opportunity, everything can change.
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FOUR WASN'T FAILURE, IT WAS FINDING FAITH
What does it take to rebuild a life after four incarcerations, across four different decades, and stay the course when the path isn't easy? Today we welcome Tammy Franklin of Prison Fellowship, a woman, mother and wife whose lived experience, at every decade in her life, challenged her with incarceration, until a powerful transformation from God led her to serve others walking the same difficult road. Tammy shares how finding that faith with the only prayer she knew; 'God, please help me' was the final turning point to help her rebuild her life and find her purpose, with mentorship and love from the 'church women with the sparkly eyes'. Now working with Prison Fellowship, Tammy uses her voice to support justice-impacted individuals and families, offering guidance rooted in real-life experience. Her story is one of resilience, redemption, religion; all daily commitments required to stay on her path, one step at a time. This conversation reminds us that second chances are not just given; they are built, step by step, through courage, accountability, hope, and help from above.
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THIEF, PRISONER, SOLDIER, PRIEST (a book by guest Paul Cowley)
In this powerful episode we hear the remarkable story of Paul Cowley, a man whose life journey reflects the true power of hope, faith, and second chances. After experiencing the consequences of poor choices that led him into prison, Paul's life took an unexpected turn when a compassionate military officer offered him a second chance, a unique moment that would ultimately change the direction of his life forever. That act of belief sparked a transformation rooted in faith, discipline, and purpose. Drawing inspiration from Proverbs 13 "Hope deferred makes the heart sick", Paul shares how hope and God became the foundation of his healing and growth. While for many years he dedicated his life to helping others find hope in the midst of hardship, encouraging those who feel lost to believe that change is possible. Today Paul is the Managing Director of Second Chance Partnership, an organization, in partnership with Iceland Foods, helping 'prison leavers' find work and a living wage through the same second chances that once changed his own life. This episode is a powerful reminder that hope can restore what despair once tried to take, and that sometimes one person's belief in you can change everything.
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WHEN CLASS ACTION WINS OUT OVER RETALIATION
Access to justice stops at the prison gates unless you happen to be incarcerated in one of the few states in the U.S. that has prisoner legal services available. For 9 plaintiffs and another 150 incarcerated men at the Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center in Massachusetts, legal help from Prisoner Legal Services and Hogan Lovells Law Firm was able to offer legal support, and won a $7 million landmark case, against the correctional center. In this episode of The Hustler Files, Lawyers of the Year, in Massachusetts, David Milton and Kayla Ghantous discuss the critical role of organizations dedicated to advocating for prisoners facing legal challenges, while incarcerated. While civil legal services exist for housing, benefits, and family matters, far fewer resources are available to those behind bars, leaving many without the legal support they desperately need. This conversation shines a light on the growing demand for prisoner legal advocacy, the gaps in access to justice, and why these services are more essential than ever, because justice should never depend on where you are.
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WHEN YOUR SUPERPOWER STANDS AT THE INTERSECTION OF JUVENILES & JUSTICE
As attorney, youth advocate and Executive Director of the Coalition for Juvenile Justice, Melissa Milchman's "superpower" is bringing people and organizations together to improve the lives of children and youth, and strengthen communities across the U.S. Even today her mother says she's been wearing her superhero cape since she was a child. In this episode, Melissa shares how collaboration across various juvenile justice systems, through her organization, regardless of politics or changing landscapes, remains essential to protecting young people and creating safer communities. As someone deeply committed to youth advocacy and justice reform, Melissa believes progress happens when leaders stay focused on a shared mission: ensuring children and youth have the support, opportunity, and the community they deserve.
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SHERIFF CALLS ICE ARREST 'BUSH LEAGUE'
When a routine evening in Portland, Maine turned into a highly publicized arrest involving Federal Immigration Authorities: it sparked questions far beyond one incident and triggered a Sheriff showdown. In this episode, Cumberland County Sheriff Kevin Joyce unpacks the events surrounding the arrest of a correctional officer trainee by ICE during a federal operation known as Operation Catch of the Day. What followed triggered national headlines, protests, and a ripple effect inside the Cumberland County justice system including the removal of all ICE detainees from the county jail, and new scrutiny of hiring practices and cooperation between local and federal law enforcement. Sheriff Joyce shares his firsthand account of the arrest, the complicated legal and jurisdictional issues involved, and why he chose to publicly challenge what he called 'bush league' tactics used in the operation. This conversation explores what happens when the Office of Sheriff, federal law enforcement, and immigration policy collide and test both principle and partnership.
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ONE SYSTEM, TWO PATHS; RESTORATION VS. PUNISHMENT
Northwestern Massachusetts District Attorney David Sullivan is always up for a powerful conversation that challenges conventional ideas of justice, and what it truly means to serve a community. From traditional prosecution to innovative restorative justice practices, Sullivan shares how his office is working to balance accountability with opportunity, giving both victims and offenders, a voice in the process. Rooted in a model that dates back threethousand years, restorative justice shifts the focus from punishment to repairing harm, creating space for dialogue, responsibility, and transformation. Through real-life examples and candid insights, this conversation offers a rare look inside the evolving role of a modern District Attorney and the systems working to create lasting change. This episode is a reminder that justice isn't always about punishment. Sometimes, it's about understanding, accountability, and the possibility of a different outcome.
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WHEN HOPE MEETS ACTION: LIVES RECLAIMED
In Part 2 of the conversation with the Seattle Clemency Project, we are joined by Brooke Kaufman, Director of Communications and Author, at the SCP, and client Grady Mitchell. In a deeply personal look at what clemency truly means, not just in policy, but in people's lives, Grady shares his journey of transformation, purpose, and paying forward the hope he was given. It was his hope that helped him face unimaginable personal challenges with unwavering strength, during his 37-year incarceration. This episode goes beyond the legal process, revealing the human impact of second chances in a system where parole does not exist. Through stories of resilience, advocacy, and belief in human potential, this conversation is just another reminder that redemption isn't just possible, it's lived, every day.
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FINDING HOPE IN A NO-PAROLE STATE
In Part 1 of a two-part conversation, we sit down with leaders from an organization working at the intersection of justice, advocacy, and second chances. The Seattle Clemency Project is a lifeline for so many incarcerated individuals who may have been eligible for parole, if the State of Washington had a parole system. Musa Abul-Mateen, Executive Director of SCP, and a formerly incarcerated individual, and Jennifer Smith, Co-Founder and Development Director of SCP explore the shared humanity behind the system, challenging assumptions and the critical work being done to support individuals navigating complex legal and personal journeys. With honesty and insight, this conversation underscores a powerful truth: we are more alike than we are different. It's a reminder that real impact happens when compassion, accountability, and opportunity come together.
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FOSTERING CHANGE, ONE CHILD AT A TIME
From surviving abuse, instability, and homelessness to building a national nonprofit to helpfoster children, this is the powerful journey of Rob Scheer, founder of the organization Comfort Cases. After experiencing firsthand the harsh realities of the foster care system where children often carry their belongings in trash bags, Rob turned his story into a movement focused on restoring dignity, comfort, and a sense of worth to kids in crisis. In this conversation, Rob shares the deeper challenges within foster care, including trauma, invisibility, and the long-term impact on children who age out of the system. Rob also reflects on resilience, personal responsibility, and the moment he chose a different path, one that now impacts hundreds of thousands of lives across the country. With 700 children in the United States entering foster care EVERYDAY, Rob is truly compassion in action, seeing what others overlook, and proving how one person's lived experience can spark meaningful, systemic change.
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IT'S OKAY TO SAY THE F WORD
From a felony to the CEO of a Global foundation, Michelle Cirocco knows firsthand that second chances work, because she lived it. After serving time in prison, Michelle rebuilt her life by taking a job at a call center, inside a local correctional facility. Today, she leads the Televerde Foundation, helping incarcerated and formerly incarcerated women gain workforce credentials, employment, and long-term success. With over 5,000 women served and a recidivism rate that is under 2%, Televerde's model is transforming reentry outcomes and economic impact across states like Arizona and Indiana. In a powerful and heartfelt conversation, Michelle talks about leadership, the stigma of having a felony, workforce development, her 'Cinderellas', her pet peeves, why failure is not the end, and that it's okay to say the F word.
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INTELLECTUAL ESPRESSO
Tore Price was serving time behind the wall, in Michigan, when he learned about the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program being taught by the University of Michigan. According to Tore, there were 1,000 incarcerated individuals who rushed to sign up for the weekly class with students from the University. With only 15 slots available lady luck was definitely on Tores side. When asking him to describe the Inside-Out Program, his words were short and sweet, intellectual espresso. For Tore, this was the launching pad that propelled him to not only continue to educate himself but also be an advocate for other incarcerated individuals. Having served his ten-year sentence, Tore is now a training coach and special program coordinator for the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program. Proof that education is a tool for resistance, dignity, and collective liberation.
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FROM LECTURE HALLS TO BEHIND THE WALL | LIFE, INSIDE OUT
While prisons in the United States offer a variety of educational pursuits, it only took a brief conversation between a college educator and an incarcerated individual for the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program to be born. Four decades later, the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program is still going strong, thanks to Founder, Lori Pompa. Lori's vision to bring her students, from Temple University to interface with incarcerated individuals, in a unique classroom setting, behind the wall, was not only a leap of faith but ahead of its time. In Lori's own words, "It is a class, though not an ordinary one. In this class roles are intermingled; everyone is the teacher, and everyone is the learner." Staying in step with her college classes timeline and curriculum, this powerful education model changed the narrative for all. Once a week for an entire college semester, students around the world arrive at local prisons and sit in Lori's now famous circle of curriculum, compassion, and collaboration. All these years later, this innovative model continues to foster dialogue and understanding between incarcerated individuals and college students while continuing to grow organically. Today more than 1600 college/university professors, along with other educators, and 15 countries around the globe, teach Inside-Out courses.
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GUIDED BY EXPERIENCE + GROUNDED BY SCIENCE = CHANGING OUTCOMES
Dan Sheridan and Ashley Anderson are both PhDs and licensed behavior analysts, but don't let their titles fool you; their work at Auburn University is no desk job. In partnership with the Alabama Department of Youth Services, Dan and Ashley headup a team of undergraduate students, graduate clinicians, and full-time staff who provide support for juvenile offenders within a local secure residential facility. Listen in as they share their insights on the intersection of research, education, and lived experience, and how these elements can create transformative outcomes for young people at critical turning points in their lives. The conversation highlights the importance of behavior analysis in reducing recidivism and addresses the root causes of crime, emphasizing the necessity for community involvement in supporting youth reintegration.
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THE REALITY IS IN THE NUMBERS
Welcome to Season 4! Wanda Bertram from the Prison Policy Initiative stops by to discuss the latest insights and highlights on current incarceration rates, parole, juvenile justice, and how women incarcerated in the U.S. compare to other states and countries . While the statistics are alarming when reading the 'whole pie' research that the Prison Policy Initiative is known for, the truth of the criminal justice system in America is hard to ignore. Today's conversation on detention centers, youth confinement, and incarcerated women invokes the sad reality that systemic issues continue to contribute to mass incarceration in the U.S. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation that highlights the continued need for reform and increased compassion within the criminal justice system.
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GRIT, GRACE & NOT A GANGSTER
Leadership was always in the cards for Kristin Kline. Despite being incarcerated, it only took one coach in an Arizona women's prison to encourage Kristin that she had leadership qualities and wasn't a gangster. Finding faith in herself, she launched a workout program for the women in her prison section and took to the prison yard to improve the mental health and healing of her podmates. In this episode, Kristin discusses her transformative journey from incarcerated leadership to entrepreneurial empowerment. Kristin shares her experiences of resilience, the importance of addressing trauma, and her dedication to helping women rewrite their stories through fitness and community support, both behind and beyond the wall, with her fitness organization CONVICTED Comeback. Tune in to discover how one person's comeback can inspire a movement for change and hope.
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30 YEARS AND 30 FEET FROM DEATH'S DOOR
Anthony Ray Hinton was 29 years old when falsely accused of multiple murders. With no money to hire an attorney and up against a criminal justice system that accused him based on the color of his skin and a false ballistics test, he spent 30 years on death row, only feet away from the execution chamber at Holman State Prison in Alabama. In this emotional episode, Ray shares his harrowing journey through the criminal justice system, the injustices he faced, and the resilience he cultivated during his time in prison. His story is one of hope, forgiveness, and the unwavering support of his Mother and best friend, Lester. Tune in to hear about Ray's fight for freedom, his experiences on death row, and the lessons he learned about love and justice.
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JUSTICE IN THE FACE OF OVERWHELMING ODDS
This episode explores the transformative journey of Brett Thomas, who at 18 years old was sentenced to an excessive prison term for a crime he personally did not commit. Brett is joined by Beth Henderson, Pro Bono Director at Microsoft, and they share the powerful story of how the Seattle Clemency Project helped Brett connect with Beth and her team to navigate the complexities of the Washington State legal system to achieve his release. Tune in to discover how the impact of compassion, Brett's resilience, and the fight for justice in the face of overwhelming odds became a winning combination.
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THE POWER OF TRUTH SHALL NOT BE SILENCED
Radha Natarajan is the Executive Director of the New England Innocence Project, based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. In this episode, Radha shares her journey into the world of wrongful convictions and the challenges faced by those, behind the wall, fighting for justice. Radha also shares her and her team's hard-fought battle to free Edward Wright, a man who spent 41 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. Listen in to learn how the New England Innocence Project takes on innocence cases, the remarkable work to exonerate innocent individuals, stay within the complexities of the criminal justice system, and always keep alive the importance of hope and resilience in the face of adversity.
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STORIES OF (THANKS)GIVING
Nothing is more heartwarming as the Holiday's approach than to re-feature a montage of stories of resilience, community, and the transformative power of giving. In this newly arranged episode, we delve into the inspiring initiatives from the Franklin County Sheriff's Office's gardening program, the impactful work of the East Hampton Community Center, and the innovative food service programs at the Maine Department of Corrections. These stories highlight how individuals and organizations are making a difference in the lives of those in need, proving that compassion and community spirit can flourish even in challenging circumstances.
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FROM SMALL TOWN TO HIGH SHERIFF, AGE IS JUST A NUMBER TO JILLIAN MYERS
Sheriff Jillian Myers of Grafton County, New Hampshire, isn't just the first and youngest female High Sheriff ever elected in her hometown, but she's also a wife and mama to her three little girls. While a career in law enforcement wasn't on her radar till college, Sheriff Myers says she couldn't see herself doing anything else. Her commitment to the communities and people within her rural county, the staff under her watch, and her collaborative efforts with other law enforcement agencies have made an undeniable impact since her taking office in January of 2025. As one of only two female Sheriffs in New Hampshire and one of 50 Nationwide, this episode is a testament to courage, leadership, and commitment to making a difference, because age is really just a number.
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THREE WOMEN, THREE JOURNEY'S, THREE LEGACIES OF LOVE
When three women, a Warden, an Attorney turned Social Justice advocate, and a Filmmaker all cross paths at a maximum security prison for women in Bedford Hills, NY, anything is possible. The synergy they embody drives ground-breaking change for the innovative work taking place at the Bedford Hills Correctional Center. From filmmaker Jenifer McShane, whose documentary Mothers of Bedford explored the transformative power of empathy and family structure at the Bedford Hills Children's Center, to advocate Barbara "Bobby" Blanchard, who dedicated her career to helping incarcerated mothers maintain their bonds with their children, and lest we forget, there's former Warden Elaine Lord, who championed the innovative programs for women at Bedford Hills and set a new bar for success. This episode highlights the importance of compassion, connection, and second chances, so join us for a montage of these incredible women, their legacies, and the impact they've made in the lives of many. Full episodes of each are available wherever you get your podcasts.
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UNPACKING JUSTICE THROUGH THE WRITTEN WORD
In this montage episode, join us on a reflective journey as we share three of our favorite author interviews from the last few years. With highlights from discussions with notable and famous legal figures, Stephen Bright and James Kwak, who delve into the systemic failures of justice in the criminal courts, to Sarah Burns, a documentarian and author, who recounts the harrowing story of the Central Park Five. Additionally, we hear from Laura Love Hardin, whose memoir and Oprah Book Club pick reveals her transformative journey through addiction and incarceration. We hope you enjoy a piece of each of these compelling narratives that challenge the perceptions of justice and resilience. Full episodes of each are available wherever you get your podcasts.
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HELLO TRUTH, IT'S ME IVY
Meet Ivy Scott, a community engagement reporter for The Marshall Project. Ivy currently covers community-driven investigative and public service journalism about the criminal justice system in St.Louis and the state of Missouri. So what is The Marshall Project? Named after civil rights advocate Thurgood Marshall, The Marshall Project is a national nonprofit news organization that seeks to elevate criminal justice issues and spark a conversation about reform. Ivy Scott is one such seasoned reporter, and in this episode she shares her insights on the complexities of the American justice system and the importance of uncovering stories that demand change and give a voice to the unheard. This conversation is a powerful reminder that true stories can change how we see each other and inspire a collective push for justice.
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THE IMPRISONED MIND
"We could write this book together. We couldn't have written it apart." Those are the words of Dr. Kevin Wright, Director of the Center for Correctional Solutions at Arizona State University, discussing his co-authorship of the groundbreaking book, Imprisoned Minds: Lost Boys, Trapped Men, and Solutions from Within the Prison. But this co-authorship wasn't a typical collaboration, because the originator of the theory behind the 'imprisoned mind' is Erik Maloney, an incarcerated man serving a life sentence in an Arizona State Prison. Dr. Wright and Erik met through the ASU Inside-Out Exchange Program, a global initiative that brings together college students and incarcerated individuals to participate in a credit-bearing college course behind the wall. It was here that Erik presented his imprisoned mind theory, taken from in-depth interviews with other incarcerated men, to Dr. Wright and asked if he would provide the academic framework and scholarly expertise to bring Erik's book vision to life. Tune in for an enlightening conversation that challenges perceptions and emphasizes the power of storytelling in shaping our understanding of justice.
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SHE WAS A WARDEN ON A MISSION FOR CHANGE
Elaine Lord may have been the youngest woman to become a Warden in the State of New York, but even before her appointment at Bedford Hills Correctional, she was on a mission to improve the incarcerated programs within the New York prison walls. Before her retirement, Elaine dedicated 20 years to Bedford Hills, providing women behind bars a second chance. Her inspiring stories of the Children's Center at Bedford Hills and her mission to keep incarcerated Mothers connected to their children were only a part of the vital work required to change lives within the prison system. Join us as we explore the complexities of justice, compassion, and the importance of human connection in corrections, a legacy that Elaine Lord can be proud of.
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A VILLAGE OF RECOVERY ANGELS
A recent 2024 report estimates that 23.5 million people in the United States are in recovery from a substance use disorder based on data from the 2024 National Survey on Drug Use and Health. Anyone going through recovery will tell you that having support and hope are essential to overcoming their addiction, whether or not they've served time behind the wall. For John Sullivan and Charlie Worpek, the Northampton Recovery Center offered each the transformative power of a community of Angels. Together, they share their inspiring journeys of recovery, resilience, and hope. John and Charlie each navigate their own stories, shedding light and tears on the challenges and triumphs they faced on the path to sobriety. This episode is a testament to the strength of the human spirit and the importance of finding a supportive community in a time of darkness.
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FROM IMMORTAL TO AWAKENED
Christie Johnson grew up believing she could get away with just about anything. As a small-town Texas cheerleader, she thought she was untouchable, unstoppable, and immortal. But addiction, a horrific accident while serving in the military, and time in prison shattered that illusion and sparked something far more powerful, an awakening like no other. Christie's journey is one of struggle, resilience, and ultimately, redemption. Now, as a member of the Cornbread Hustle family, a second-chance and skill training hiring agency, Christie dedicates her life to helping others find their second chance. Join us as we explore her raw and inspiring story that reminds us of the power of possibility, the strength of the human spirit, and that miracles do happen.
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FROM PRISON TO PURPOSE WITH THE POWER OF GRACE
When Cary Sanders speaks, his calming tone and gentle cadence would never give you a clue that he had been arrested 17 times by the time he was 17. Cary's journey from his tumultuous past and time behind the wall to his current position as CEO of JUMPSTART South Carolina can only make one believe that Cary's life has been guided by a higher power, and he would agree. At JUMPSTART, Cary leads a transformative re-entry program that begins in prison, highlighting the power of faith and second chances while helping break cycles of crime and addiction. Tune in to hear his inspiring journey of hustle, redemption, and impactful work he and his volunteers are doing to not only help others find their purpose but to support those returning to the community with housing, jobs, and other re-entry services.
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BREAKING BARRIERS; A CHILDREN'S NURSERY AT BEDFORD HILLS PRISON
Barbara (Bobby) Blanchard is a passionate advocate who transitioned from a law career to further the impactful work of Sister Elaine Roulet at The Children's Center in the Bedford Hills Correctional Facility in New York State. In this episode, Bobby shares her journey of creating and overseeing programs that helped incarcerated women maintain their bonds with their children, and learn to be Mothers despite their cement surroundings. Bobby was also prominently featured in the 2011 documentary Mothers of Bedford, directed by Jenifer McShane. While Bobby no longer works at Bedford Hills, her passion for the criminal justice system has not waned; she currently has a new mission in Vermont, focusing on restorative justice programs. This conversation with Bobby is a heartfelt exploration of transformation, compassion, and the importance of second chances for mothers and their children.
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SHACKLED NO MORE; A FIGHT FOR PREGNANT WOMEN BEHIND BARS
Heather Canuel, a powerful activist, entrepreneur, mother, and grandmother, is also known for being the last woman to give birth while shackled to a prison bed in Illinois, more than 20 years ago. In this episode, Heather shares her harrowing journey through the criminal justice system, the trauma of her experience while being pregnant, and her fight for reform and justice for incarcerated mothers. Heather's experience and current life mission provide an inspiring discussion about survival, resilience, and the importance of creating change, both inside the wall and beyond.
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THROUGH THE LENS; IN THE WAKE OF ADDICTION
It may have taken multiple years, but Lisa Hall will tell you that it was a worthy and honorable mission to create a film dedicated to addiction and incarceration. As an inspiring filmmaker and documentarian, Lisa dedicated herself to shedding a brighter light on a subject that impacts so many on a daily basis. In creating the film 'The Addict's Wake,' Lisa's vision aimed to not only change the narrative surrounding addiction but also its effects on local communities, as well as the critical role of law enforcement in addressing the addiction crisis. 'The Addict's Wake' is currently available to view on PBS and is also available for distribution within local communities and schools. Lisa can be reached at Glory Girl Productions.
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HOME GROWN HOPE BEHIND THE WALL
Mark McBrine grew up on a farm and expected that to be his lifelong calling, but God had another plan. When his father became ill and his family needed help running the farms, Mark, at the age of 49, became a Correctional Officer with the Maine Department of Corrections. From there, it didn't take long for Mark to become the Food Service Manager at the Mountain View Correctional Facility. When then-Warden Randy Liberty was interested in reducing the waste inside the prison kitchens, Mark stepped up and created an Organic Fruit and Vegetable Production Program. This Farm to Table program within the Maine Department of Corrections forever changed how food can be grown, harvested, and consumed behind the wall! Mark's inspiring work in enhancing food quality and providing vocational training to incarcerated individuals across eight state prisons and is now a model for other prisons and jails across the United States. Mark and his team have helped many incarcerated individuals gain skills and knowledge in gardening, harvesting, cooking, and even baking 100% of the prison's own breads and desserts. The discovery of how innovative agricultural practices and a commitment to scratch cooking continue to change lives and foster responsibility. Much of this can be seen in the documentary Seeds of Change, Breaking Free from the Prison Food Machine. Don't miss this enlightening discussion that challenges perceptions and highlights the power of compassion and second chances, through food.
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THE POWER OF COACHING IN CORRECTIONS, PART 2
Whether you're a sports fan or a parent in the stands, there is a distinct difference between the role of the Coach and the role of the Referees. Nowhere is it more apparent than watching the 2025 NFL pre-season games to get a true perspective on the differences. In this, part 2 of the conversation with Dr. Brian Lovins, President of Justice System Partners, Brian shares more about the transformative coaching model he and his other collaborators created back in 2018, how that initial model is now focused on four dimensions of coaching; the Approach, the Connection, the Playbook and the Success, and the importance of accountability, and the real life implications of this innovative model that is evolving and reshaping the experiences of those it was designed for.
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THE POWER OF COACHING IN CORRECTIONS, PART 1
In sports, there are Coaches and there are Referees, but what about in the criminal justice system? That was the question that Dr. Brian Lovins, currently President of Justice System Partners, asked himself during his tenure at the Harris County Correctional System as Assistant Director. During that time, Dr. Lovins was tasked with developing and implementing agency-wide change plans to drive increased successful completion rates of justice-impacted individuals on probation. It was during this time that an 'ah-ha moment seized Dr. Lovins, and he, along with some collaborators, created the Coach vs. Referee model to emphasize the importance of connection and support for individuals navigating the justice system. These many years later, through research and hands-on experience with the Idaho Department of Corrections, Dr. Lovins and his team have been front and center with the Coach vs. Referee model to help reduce recidivism and foster success by offering a more compassionate and effective approach to justice.
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WHAT'S IN A NAME?
Every name has a meaning. The name Gemma refers to 'a bud ready to grow independently'. Appropriately, this name was chosen by the incarcerated women who originally founded The Gemma Project, a jail and prison reentry program to assist incarcerated and formerly incarcerated women with successful reintegration. While reentry should be mainstream for all incarcerated individuals who are returning to their communities, this important programming is still spotty across the United States, and isn't always designed with consideration for each individual's needs. Cynthia Chase, Co-Founder and Executive Director of the Gemma Project, has spent 25 years working within the criminal legal system as a dedicated leader and tireless advocate, including as Mayor of Santa Cruz, California. Cynthia highlights the importance of amplifying the voices of justice-involved women and uncovering the stories that challenge societal perceptions.
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DIRECTOR JENIFER MCSHANE & 'THE QUILTERS' - STITCHING LIVES TOGETHER
Jenifer McShane never planned on becoming an award-winning independent filmmaker, but life had other plans. From her early work on 'A Leap of Faith', narrated by Liam Neeson, to her latest Netflix documentary, 'The Quilters', Jenifer shares her journey of storytelling that humanizes those behind both literal and figurative bars. But it is at the Missouri South Central Correctional Center, a Level 5 State Prison, where Jenifer explores the transformative power of art, the importance of empathy, and the stories that challenge our perceptions of justice and redemption, while bridging the gap between society and the incarcerated.
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THE MANY LIVES OF LARA LOVE HARDIN
Lara Love Hardin is a NY Times best-selling author, including a 2024 Oprah Book Club pick, a 5-time NY Times bestselling collaborative author, a literary agent, a Mother, and a prison reform advocate. She's also a former addict and justice-involved individual. Lara's memoir, The Many Lives of Mama Love: A Memoir of Lying, Stealing, Writing, and Healing, is the transformational story of her life, her experiences with the criminal justice system, and the stigma surrounding addiction. While her story contains notes of "Wild", "Orange is the New Black", and "Catch Me If You Can", it is the power of storytelling that offered her a means of healing and forgiveness, because as she says, "I want to do what's true to me".
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A HUMAN COMPASS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR WAY
In Episode 117, Sheriff Brad Burkhart inspired us with his commitment to help those justice-impacted individuals under his watch return to their communities with a new lease on life. In this episode, we return to Hancock County, Indiana, to meet jail navigator Crystal Petty and former jail resident Danielle Brashear as they discuss the innovative programs implemented at the Hancock County Jail, from education and rehabilitation to reducing recidivism, AND saving Hancock County millions of dollars! Danielle also shares her powerful story of overcoming addiction, regaining her son, and finding her purpose. Her transparency highlights the importance of support systems and community involvement in fostering change, and Danielle is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the potential for redemption.,
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ONE MAN'S MISSION FOR CHANGE
From a small-town upbringing, working in construction, to leading the Albany County Sheriff's Office, in New York State, Sheriff Craig Apple has placed a strong emphasis on programs that have drastically reduced recidivism and received statewide and national recognition. From his day-to-day watch of 748 employees and 800-900 incarcerated individuals, he has built programs that will last long after his time as Sheriff. His triumphs include a Heroin Addiction Recovery Program, a Soldier On program for Veterans, an Inmate Fire Training program and an Inmate Work Force Program, still to him, one of his greatest legacies is a housing area, within the jail, but separate from the incarcerated individuals, that assist the local homeless population. This innovative homeless improvement program, initiated after COVID-19, has given hope and a new lease on life to so many who once walked the streets of Albany.
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PLANTING SEEDS OF HOPE AND OPPORTUNITY
Drawing from his upbringing on an Indiana farm, Sheriff Brad Burkhart's philosophy is grounded in the idea of "planting seeds of hope and opportunity" for those incarcerated individuals under his watch in Hancock County. With over 38 years of experience in law enforcement, Sheriff Burkhart shares his journey and has seen firsthand that in corrections, there is a need to prepare the ground for individuals to grow and thrive, just like the seeds he planted as a young farm boy. One such preparation is the utilization of the Orijin tablets, which provide incarcerated individuals access to educational resources and vocational training, thus fostering hope and opportunity. It is the transformative power of the tablet initiative, along with other programs behind the wall, that is creating a positive impact and reducing recidivism in the Hancock County community.
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FROM A WHITE COLLAR CRIME TO BECOMING A WHITE KNIGHT
There aren't many people who can transition from incarceration for a white-collar crime to CEO of an established educational nonprofit, but then again, Jeff Abramowitz is unlike most people you'll ever meet. As CEO of the critically acclaimed Petey Green Program, Jeff discusses the transformative power of education for incarcerated and formerly incarcerated individuals, a firsthand experience he gained when going from a successful trial lawyer to incarceration for a white collar crime. It was that experience, behind the wall, that shaped his commitment, upon his release, to helping others overcome the challenges of reentry into society. Tune in to hear Jeff talk about the importance of understanding choices, the impact of educational programs, and how to break the cycle of poverty and incarceration.
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TRUST THE TIMING OF YOUR LIFE
In Franklin County, Massachusetts, Sheriff Lori Streeter may be the newest female Sheriff in Massachusetts. She joins Sheriff Donna Buckley of Barnstable County as one of two female Sheriffs across the Commonwealth, but Sheriff Streeter is also the first female Sheriff to be appointed, in her County by the Governor. (She takes over for Sheriff Donelan, who retired early.) With over 35 years of experience in the Franklin County Sheriff's office, Sheriff Streeter shares her climb up the proverbial ladder, from correctional officer to Sheriff, her passion for the job, the challenges she faced during her appointment to Sheriff, and her vision for the future of the office. Listen in to hear her talk about the importance of community relationships, the innovative programs for incarcerated individuals that she will continue to support and grow, and the significance of having women in leadership roles within law enforcement.
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WORKING TO KEEP HIS COUNTY, THE WAY LIFE SHOULD BE
Upon driving into the State of Maine there is a sign that reads, 'WELCOME TO MAINE, THE WAY LIFE SHOULD BE'. For thirty-eight years, Kevin Joyce, the current Sheriff of Cumberland County, Maine, has made it his mission to ensure that his county, which includes the city of Portland, Maine, lives up to its state motto. While the State of Maine, in general, is considered rural, Cumberland County is a blend of cities, towns, and the second-largest and deepest lake in the state. This combination offers its own unique challenges and responsibilities for Sheriff Joyce and his law enforcement team. From the intricacies of managing a large jail population, to the impact of mental health and substance use on the Maine justice system, and the importance of community engagement, Sheriff Joyce is still as passionate about his mission and the people under his watch, both outside and behind the wall, as he was thirty-eight years ago.
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WHEN GOD CALLS YOUR NAME
In another milestone episode, retired prison Chaplain Peg Newman shares an insightful and heartfelt look inside her life journey at the intersection of faith, spirituality, and the criminal justice system. From her early work with AIDS patients to providing spiritual guidance to incarcerated individuals with life sentences or facing death and dying, her stories offer profound reflections from a compassionate vantage point. Peg highlights the importance of community, connection, and the human spirit despite the most challenging of circumstances, and the gifts that she unexpectedly received when placing her faith in front of her fear.
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CRIME & CONSEQUENCES IN A MISSOURI SMALL TOWN, PART 1 of EP 111
In Episode 108, Attorney Charlie Weiss shared the wrongful conviction and exoneration of Josh Kezer, a man who spent sixteen years in prison for a murder he didn't commit. That interview led to a compelling conversation with former Scott County Sheriff Rick Walter. Rick shares his harrowing experience of discovering the body of Mischelle Lawless in 1992 and the subsequent investigation by a previous Sheriff, which led to the wrongful conviction of Josh Kezer. Rick discusses the complexities of the case, his journey through law enforcement that led him to serve three terms in Scott County, and the emotional weight of reopening a case, as now Sheriff, that haunted him for decades. Listen in as we unpack the intricacies of justice, the impact of personal history, and the relentless pursuit of truth.
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CRIME & CONSEQUENCES IN A MISSOURI SMALL TOWN, PART 2 of EP 111
In part 2 of this gripping story, former Sheriff Rick Walter dives deeper into the complex and haunting case of murder victim Mischelle Lawless. After years of investigation and a wrongful conviction, Rick shares his journey of reopening the case, the obstacles he faced, and the truth he uncovered. This episode also delves into the themes of justice, perseverance, and the impact of systemic failures in the criminal justice system. Tune in for an eye-opening conversation that challenges the narratives surrounding crime, redemption, and an unsolved case, 32 years later.
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WHEN LIBERTY IS YOUR LAST NAME
In this milestone episode, The Hustler Files welcomes, for the first time, a Department of Corrections (prison) Commissioner. Randall Liberty is the head of the Department of Corrections in Maine, overseeing eight prison/correctional facilities. With over 43 years of experience in law enforcement, Commissioner Liberty shares his transformative journey from visiting his father in prison at the age of six to leading the most progressive corrections model in the US. Discover how he is reshaping the prison system by focusing on rehabilitation, education, and community reintegration, all while reducing violence and promoting dignity within the correctional environment. His innovative approaches such as salad bars from the prison gardens, a Christmas tree farm that returns the trees to local Vets and their families, and remote work opportunities, with fair market pay for residents of his prisons, plus the importance of treating residents with respect, is a testament to the power of change in the criminal justice system. Because when Liberty is your last name, your life's mission is clear.
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TRUTH BE TOLD
Laurence Colletti is a seasoned podcast producer, writer, and attorney. For over a decade, he's brought to light the stories and critical issues surrounding prison reform and wrongful convictions while hosting the Legal Talk Network Podcast, and producing the For The Innocent Podcast. In this episode of The Hustler Files, Laurence shares his journey into podcasting, the emotional stories behind some of those who were wrongfully accused, and the impactful work that must continue to bring these narratives to light.
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Hi, I'm Lisa Reilly, and this show is built on one simple belief: true stories can change how we see each other. Each week, I have the privilege to sit down with people from within the various criminal and social justice systems and organizations, including those with lived experience and those working to bring compassion and resources both behind and beyond the walls. All of them approach their lives and work with grit, hope, and purpose, which is what we're here to share because there's always a voice ready to challenge what you thought you knew.THIS IS THE HUSTLER FILES
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