The Lost Art Of the Skilled Trades

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The Lost Art Of the Skilled Trades

Welcome to The Lost Art of the Skilled Trades, the ultimate podcast dedicated to celebrating and exploring the world of skilled trades. Hosted by Andrew Brown, a passionate advocate for the trades industry, this podcast is your go-to source for knowledge, inspiration, and practical advice. Andrew brings a unique perspective shaped by years of hands-on experience, entrepreneurial success, and a deep commitment to elevating the trades. Dive into the fascinating and ever-evolving world of skilled trades, where creativity, problem-solving, and dedication come together to build the world around us. From carpentry and HVAC systems to electricians, plumbers, millwrights, and beyond, every episode uncovers the grit, determination, and artistry that define the people behind these essential professions.Andrew’s journey began with a life-changing moment on September 11, 2001, when he worked alongside tradespeople, first responders, and community he

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    Data Centers Are Booming and Pipe Welders Are in Demand — Here's How to Get In

    The U.S. needs 320,000 more welders by 2029 — and data centers are accelerating the shortage. UA Training Specialist Bob Derby joins Andrew Brown.There's a program most people in the trades have never heard of: the UA Welder Finishing School. It takes pipe welders with existing skills — from trade schools, non-union shops, or plant work — and gets them UA-certified and dispatched to a job in 8 weeks or less. At no cost to the individual. Meanwhile, data centers are creating a surge in piping and welding work that shows no sign of slowing. The labor market is wide open — and the UA wants to fill it.Bob Derby is a UA Training Specialist with nearly 30 years in the United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipefitting Industry. He came up through the apprenticeship as a pipe welder, earned his certified welding inspector credentials, became an instructor, and eventually trained UA members across the country as a regional and national instructor. He now leads workforce development efforts and helped build the UA Welder Finishing School program.If you're a pipe welder working non-union and wondering whether the UA is an option — or a young person trying to figure out how to get in, what to earn, and how far you can go — this episode lays it out clearly and honestly.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – The 320K Welder Shortage: Bob opens with the scale of the workforce gap and explains why the UA is uniquely positioned to solve it — and why now is one of the best times ever to be entering the piping trades.(05:00) – How to Get Into the UA: The application process starts at UANet.org — no connections required. Bob explains what the interview actually looks like, what sets candidates apart, and what happens if you don't get in the first time.(12:00) – Wages, Benefits & the 5-Year Apprenticeship: Apprentices typically start at $20–25/hour with healthcare, pension, and 401k contributions from day one — and skilled journeymen can retire with $1.5–2M in their 401k.(19:00) – Mentorship: The People Who Shape a Career: Bob shares how a gruff journeyman named Al — who didn't want him around — became one of the most important mentors of his life, and what that story reveals about how apprenticeship actually works.(26:00) – Career Ladder Beyond the Journeyman Card: From foreman to instructor, certified welding inspector, training coordinator, and multi-craft superintendent — Bob traces a career path that started in a town of 643 people and led to teaching UA members across the country.(35:00) – Data Centers, Prefab Trends & the Welder Finishing School: The data center boom is driving massive demand for pipe welders right now. Bob explains how prefabrication is changing the trade — and breaks down the UA Welder Finishing School, a program that gets experienced pipe welders UA-certified and on a job site in 8 weeks or less.Key TakeawaysYou don't need to know anyone to get into the UA — start at UANet.org, find your local union, and apply. If you don't make it the first time, the door stays open and the local will tell you exactly where you fell short.UA apprentices start at $20–25/hour with full benefits, pension credits, and 401k contributions from day one — and those who start young can retire with $1.5–2M in their 401k, depending on their local and contract.We can train aptitude, but we can't train attitude — the most important things an apprentice brings to the interview and the job site are humility and eagerness to learn, not prior experience.The UA Welder Finishing School is a free, 8-week-or-less program for pipe welders with existing skills who want to get UA-certified and dispatched — including graduates of trade schools like Kentucky Welding Institute who come in test-ready and are often working within two or three weeks.About the GuestBob Derby is a UA Training Specialist with the United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipefitting Industry. With nearly 30 years in the UA, he came up through the apprenticeship as a pipe welder, earned his Certified Welding Inspector credentials, became an instructor and training coordinator at his local union, and has taught regional and national courses — including the UA's Authorized Testing Representative and Certified Welding Inspector prep programs — to members across the country.Bob currently leads workforce development initiatives including the UA Welder Finishing School, a program designed to bring skilled pipe welders from outside the union into UA membership and into the workforce quickly. He is passionate about making the UA's career opportunities visible to the next generation of tradespeople.Keywordspipe welding career, UA union welding, pipe welder jobs, welding workforce shortage, united association, UA apprenticeship, journeyman welder, pipe fitter career, welder finishing school, UA certification, ASME welding, apprenticeship application, certified welding inspector, Bob Derby, United Association of Plumbers and Pipefitters, Kentucky Welding Institute, Local 577, UA Training Specialist, pipe fitting career, HVAC trades, plumbing career, data center construction, skilled trades career, welding shortage, Gen Z tradesRESOURCE LINKSBob Derby on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-derby/ United Association Website: https://ua.org/ Find Your Local Union: https://uanet.org/ Kentucky Welding Institute: https://kwi.us/SUPPORT THE SHOWIf you found value in this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts and share it with someone who needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep telling the stories of the skilled trades.

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    Inside Aircraft Maintenance Careers: Pay, Pathways & the Fight to Keep Talent (with AMFA)

    Aircraft maintenance technician careers start at $75K and climb past six figures — but a 40,000-person shortage is threatening aviation. Rob Cush of AMFA joins Andrew Brown.By 2028, the aviation industry is expected to hit peak retirements — and the average aircraft maintenance technician is already 56 or 57 years old. The wave is coming. At the same time, new A&P graduates are being poached between school and their first job by oil and gas, because a $500–$1,000 testing cost creates a 60–120 day gap that other industries are happy to fill. The pipeline is leaking at every stage.Rob Cush is the Director of Government Affairs at AMFA (Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association) and an aircraft maintenance controller at Southwest Airlines. He's spent decades on the floor turning wrenches — and now he takes that firsthand experience directly to Capitol Hill, advocating for workforce funding, veteran transition programs, and pathways to bring more young people and women into aviation maintenance.If you're a trade-minded person looking for a career that pays well, offers real advancement, and keeps planes in the sky — or if you work in workforce development and want to understand what aviation maintenance needs right now — this episode is for you.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – The 40,000 Technician Crisis: Rob breaks down the scale of the aircraft maintenance shortage and the retirement wave hitting peak in 2028.(05:00) – Why Gen Z Is Choosing Oil & Gas: Work-life balance is beating pay — how airlines are rethinking day shift access to compete for new graduates.(12:00) – The Testing Bottleneck Nobody Talks About: The $500–$1,000 cost of DME oral and practical exams is creating a 60–120 day gap where other industries poach new A&P graduates before they get licensed.(20:00) – Veterans and Women: The Untapped Pipeline: Only 8.3% of military AMTs continue in civilian aviation, and only 2.8% of technicians are female — and in both cases, awareness is the biggest barrier.(30:00) – Building the Pipeline Earlier: From Choose Aerospace high school programs to military SkillBridge partnerships, how AMFA is reaching future technicians before they choose a different path.(38:00) – Career Ladder and Mentorship: Rob's journey from apprentice to Capitol Hill — and why passing on tribal knowledge before the retirement wave hits is the most urgent challenge in the industry.Key TakeawaysThe aircraft maintenance industry is facing a shortage of 40,000 technicians by 2028, driven by a retirement wave among a workforce whose average age is already 56–57.New A&P graduates are being lost in the gap between finishing school and getting licensed — a $500–$1,000 DME testing cost creates a 60–120 day window where oil and gas steps in and takes them.Only 8.3% of military veterans with aviation maintenance experience continue into civilian AMT roles — and the primary reason is that most of them didn't know the pathway existed.Aircraft maintenance careers are far from a dead end: from line mechanic to maintenance control, inspection, management, or government affairs, the ladder is long — and Rob Cush is proof of how far it can go.About the GuestRob Cush is the Director of Government Affairs at AMFA (Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association) and an aircraft maintenance controller at Southwest Airlines. He entered the industry through the Southwest apprenticeship program in 1996, spent 11 years as a line mechanic, and has spent the last two decades in maintenance control. AMFA represents approximately 6,600 technicians across Southwest, Alaska, Hawaiian, Spirit, Sun Country, WestJet, Jazz, and other carriers in the US and Canada.Rob leads AMFA's advocacy on Capitol Hill, where he helped secure $20 million for aircraft maintenance training in the 2024 FAA reauthorization bill, works to improve veteran transition pathways, and is building awareness programs to bring more women and young people into the A&P pipeline.Keywordsaircraft maintenance technician, A&P mechanic, aviation workforce shortage, aircraft mechanic career, AMT shortage, A&P license, 147 school, DME testing, oral and practical exam, A&P school, aviation apprenticeship, aircraft maintenance training, aviation career pathway, avionics, Rob Cush, AMFA, Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association, Southwest Airlines, Choose Aerospace, FAA reauthorization 2024, military to civilian aviation, women in aviation, skilled trades career, Gen Z tradesRESOURCE LINKSRob Cush on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-cush-55b1a936/ AMFA National Website: https://www.amfanational.org/SUPPORT THE SHOWIf you found value in this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts and share it with someone who needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep telling the stories of the skilled trades.

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    What SkillsUSA Builds That Employers Actually Need | Serenity Satterfield

    What are employers actually looking for in the next generation of tradespeople? According to Serenity Satterfield, it’s not just technical skill. It’s confidence, communication, professionalism, and the ability to step up before you feel fully ready.That is what SkillsUSA is building.Serenity Satterfield is the SkillsUSA National High School President, and her own story shows why the organization matters. She went from a small chapter in San Bernardino, California, to advocating for career and technical education on Capitol Hill and serving in national office — all because she kept saying yes to opportunities that pushed her outside her comfort zone.Through competitions, leadership development, community service, and a framework that blends personal, workplace, and technical skills, SkillsUSA is preparing students for far more than a first job. It is helping shape the kind of young professionals employers actually want to hire.This conversation is for employers looking for talent, students exploring the skilled trades, and educators who want to understand how leadership, soft skills, and technical training come together in one of the country’s most influential workforce development organizations.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – From Small Bubble to National OfficeSerenity shares how one decision to get uncomfortable took her from a small chapter in California to national leadership and advocacy on Capitol Hill.(01:45) – What SkillsUSA Actually BuildsSerenity breaks down how SkillsUSA develops students through competitions, community service, and leadership development — not just technical training.(04:15) – The Soft Skills Employers Notice FirstWhy handshakes, eye contact, confidence, and professionalism stand out so clearly in SkillsUSA students and matter so much in the real workforce.(08:06) – Where Companies Find Their Next SuperstarAndrew explains why employers looking for welders, plumbers, carpenters, and other trades talent should be paying attention to SkillsUSA competitions.(13:03) – SkillsUSA Goes Bigger Than AtlantaHow WorldSkills turns career and technical education into a global stage — and why students chase the chance to represent their country.(15:21) – Say Yes Before You Feel ReadySerenity reflects on fear, confidence, and what happens when students choose growth before certainty.Key TakeawaysEmployers are not just hiring for technical ability: they are looking for communication, professionalism, initiative, and confidence — and SkillsUSA is intentionally building those traits into student development.SkillsUSA works because it combines technical training with leadership practice: competitions, community service, and real responsibility give students a chance to apply what they learn instead of just hearing about it.The skilled trades pipeline is full of talent when people know where to look: from welding and carpentry to electrical, plumbing, and media, SkillsUSA creates visible pathways into real careers.Confidence grows after the decision, not before it: Serenity’s journey shows that many of the biggest opportunities come after saying yes while still feeling nervous.About the GuestSerenity Satterfield is the SkillsUSA National High School President, representing one of the largest student-led workforce development organizations in the United States. Through her leadership and advocacy, she promotes career and technical education, workforce readiness, and leadership development across the skilled trades.Her journey began in a smaller chapter in San Bernardino, California, before growing into state leadership, national office, and advocacy work in Washington, D.C. Today, she speaks about the power of saying yes to growth, building confidence through discomfort, and creating stronger pathways for students entering the workforce.KeywordsSkillsUSA, skilled trades, career and technical education, workforce development, soft skills, leadership development, student success, trades careers, workforce pipeline, welding, carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, construction, WorldSkills, Serenity Satterfield, Andrew BrownRESOURCE LINKSSerenity Satterfield on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/serenity-saterfield-692222323/SkillsUSA Website: https://www.skillsusa.org/SUPPORT THE SHOWIf you found value in this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts and share it with someone who needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep telling the stories of the skilled trades.

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    Everyone Talks About Supporting the Trades. SupplyHouse Actually Does It

    The trades don’t have a shortage of interest — they have a bottleneck at the point of entry.Christine Boehm of SupplyHouse.com breaks down how skilled trades scholarships and trade school scholarships are removing the barriers most people never see — and opening doors that were never accessible to begin with.For years, workforce development in the trades has focused on awareness: getting more young people to consider careers in HVAC, electrical, plumbing, and construction. But interest isn’t the problem. The real gap shows up after someone decides they’re in — when cost, access, and lack of support stop them before they ever get started.Christine leads communications and content at SupplyHouse.com and works closely with the Supply House Foundation to expand access into the trades through scholarships, partnerships, and industry advocacy. Her work focuses on building a system that doesn’t just attract attention — but clears the path for people to actually enter, stay, and build long-term careers.This conversation is for contractors trying to hire in a tight labor market, for career changers looking for a real path into the trades, and for companies trying to understand what it takes to turn interest into a workforce.In This Episode(00:00) – Beyond AwarenessAndrew introduces Christine Boehm and reframes the trades conversation: the issue isn’t attention — it’s access.(05:18) – How the Scholarship Model StartedThe origin of SupplyHouse.com’s skilled trades scholarships and why financial barriers stop more people than lack of interest.(11:22) – The Access GapWhy career changers struggle to enter the trades — and how workforce development efforts often miss the people who need them most.(18:40) – Women in the TradesWhat’s driving growth, what’s still missing, and how representation directly connects to opportunity.(26:55) – Building an EcosystemHow the Supply House Foundation is expanding beyond trade school scholarships into partnerships, nonprofits, and long-term support.(36:10) – Mentorship and MomentumWhy mentorship, contractor involvement, and real-world guidance determine whether someone stays in the trades or leaves early.Key TakeawaysAccess — not awareness — is the real barrier into the trades.Interest in trades careers is growing, but without financial support and structured entry points like skilled trades scholarships and trade school scholarships, most potential workers never make it past step one.Workforce development requires more than recruitment.Bringing people into the trades is only the beginning — long-term success depends on support systems, mentorship, and clear pathways that help individuals build sustainable careers.Expanding participation strengthens the entire industry.Increasing representation, especially among women in the trades, is not just about inclusion — it directly impacts the size, resilience, and future of the workforce.Scholarships are a starting point, not the solution.Programs like the Supply House Foundation show that real impact comes from combining financial support with partnerships, education, and ongoing industry engagement.About the GuestChristine Boehm is the Communications and Content Team Lead at SupplyHouse.com, where she leads initiatives focused on strengthening the skilled trades through scholarships, storytelling, and workforce development programs. She works closely with the Supply House Foundation to expand access into the trades, support women entering the industry, and build partnerships that help the next generation of tradespeople succeed.Keywordsskilled trades scholarships, trade school scholarships, workforce development in the trades, Supply House Foundation, women in the trades, skilled trades, trades careers, contractors, workforce pipeline, advocacy, education, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, construction, craftsmanship, problem-solving, Andrew Brown, Christine Boehm, SupplyHouse.com, Lost Art of the Skilled TradesResource LinksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-boehm-marketing/SupplyHouse.com: https://www.supplyhouse.comFoundation Contact: [email protected] the ShowIf you found value in this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts and share it with someone who needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep telling the stories of the skilled trades.

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    What the Trades Don't See (But We Do) | Aaron Witt, BuildWitt

    What the Trades Don't See (But We Do) | Aaron Witt, BuildWittAaron Witt of BuildWitt has visited job sites on 5 continents. His take: the trades' biggest problem isn't negative perception — it's invisibility.Most people in the trades blame the younger generation. They say Gen Z is lazy, college-obsessed, or soft. But Aaron Witt — who showed up to his first construction job at 18 with zero background — says the real problem is structural. The industry built its entire training model around workers who grew up in the trades. Now a whole generation is showing up without that baseline knowledge, and the industry is yelling at them for it instead of teaching them.Aaron Witt is the founder of BuildWitt, a media and workforce development company that travels the skilled trades world — from Arctic diamond mines to Saudi Arabia — to tell the stories of the people keeping the world running. He's spent 13 years inside the industry as an outsider, and that vantage point gives him a clear view of what the people inside the fishbowl can't see.This conversation is for employers who keep losing workers within 90 days, for 17-year-olds trying to figure out their path in an AI-disrupted world, and for anyone who wants to understand why the trades pipeline is broken — and what actually fixes it.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – The Fishbowl: Why being outside the trades gives Aaron and Andrew a clearer view of what the industry is missing.(06:00) – Not Even in the Race: The trades don't have a perception problem — they have an invisibility problem, and the industry doesn't realize the difference.(15:00) – 5 Continents, One Truth: How BuildWitt went from Instagram posts on a road construction site to visiting a diamond mine near the Arctic Circle — and what Aaron sees that's the same everywhere.(26:00) – The Old Model Is Dead: Why the "trial by fire" approach to training worked for 40 years — and why applying it to today's workforce is a guaranteed way to lose people.(36:00) – Who Raised Gen Z?: The real retention crisis, the 50% turnover rate for workers under 25, and why the generation complaining about Gen Z raised them.(47:00) – Trades vs. AI: Why data centers can't be built without skilled trades, why white-collar work gets disrupted first, and what Aaron would tell a 17-year-old today.Key TakeawaysThe trades don't have a perception problem — they have an invisibility problem. The next generation isn't choosing against the trades; they never knew the trades were an option.The old training model was built for workers who grew up around the trades and arrived with 15 years of background knowledge. That worker no longer exists — and the industry has to build a new model for the worker that does.Over 50% of workers under 25 who enter the trades leave within months. Before blaming Gen Z, employers need to ask: Do these workers know what day one looks like? Do they have a mentor? Do they have a reason to stay?Skilled trades may be the safest career bet in an AI-disrupted economy. Law gets disrupted before welding. White-collar offices get disrupted before equipment operation. Every data center being built right now requires skilled trades workers.About the GuestAaron Witt is the founder of BuildWitt, a media and workforce development company dedicated to the skilled trades and civil construction industries. He started BuildWitt in 2018 by sharing photos on Instagram from a road construction job site — and has since traveled to over 30 states annually and across five continents, visiting construction and mining operations from the Saudi desert to a diamond mine near the Arctic Circle.Aaron's work focuses on changing how the next generation sees the trades — not through marketing spin, but by showing the raw, real, unfiltered reality of the work. BuildWitt produces workforce training content, storytelling media, and leadership resources for the companies building the world.Keywordsskilled trades, workforce development, civil construction, Gen Z in trades, trades career path, trades workforce shortage, equipment operator, welding, HVAC, apprenticeship, trades retention, Aaron Witt, BuildWitt, SkillsUSA, Andrew Brown, Lost Art of the Skilled TradesRESOURCE LINKSAaron Witt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronwitt/BuildWitt Website: https://buildwitt.com/SUPPORT THE SHOWIf you found value in this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts and share it with someone who needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep telling the stories of the skilled trades.

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    What Happens After 30 Years in the Trades? | Herb Sargent

    What if the real workforce problem isn't recruiting — it's that we're handing young people tools before we've taught them how to live? Herb Sargent, recently retired CEO and Board Chair of Sargent Corporation, has spent decades proving there's a better way.Herb watched a man named Freedom — a 70-year-old truck driver shuffling between offices and a trailer he lived in — and made a decision: nobody who works for Sargent Corporation would retire without dignity. That commitment turned into a full workforce development system that teaches budgeting, retirement planning, soft skills, and career pathways — before a single shovel hits the ground.Herb Sargent is the recently retired CEO and Board Chair of Sargent Corporation, a 100% employee-owned civil construction company founded in Maine in 1926. Under his leadership, Sargent grew to 550+ employee-owners, built a construction academy that helped grow their under-25 workforce from 10% to 25%, and achieved 1 million injury-free man-hours through a single five-second mindset shift.If you lead a trades company, run a workforce development program, or are trying to recruit and retain Gen Z workers, this conversation is exactly what you need to hear.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – Legacy Before We Begin: Herb opens with the question he asks every veteran worker — what do you want your legacy to be — and it reframes the entire episode.(06:00) – Life Skills Before Job Skills: Herb explains how COVID exposed a generation that never worked at McDonald's, and why Sargent Corporation decided to meet new hires where they are — budgeting, financial literacy, and retirement planning first.(13:00) – The Freedom Story: The truck driver named Freedom — shuffling to his trailer at 70 years old — became the moment that defined Herb's mission to ensure every employee retires with dignity.(20:00) – Take Five: How one question ("what else could I do that takes the guesswork out of it?") transformed Sargent's safety culture and drove a full million man-hours without a lost time injury.(30:00) – Welcome vs. Belonging: There's a difference between showing someone where the fridge is and making them feel like they belong. Herb explains the onboarding and mentorship system that keeps Gen Z workers engaged and growing.(42:00) – Sources, Not Resources: Herb shares how reframing veteran operators as sources — not just resources — and asking them about their legacy turned the most resistant employees into the best mentors on the jobsite.Key TakeawaysTeaching life skills — budgeting, financial planning, how to show up — before job skills is not soft, it's strategic: workers who understand how to build a life stay longer, perform better, and retire with dignity.The "Take Five" approach — asking workers to pause five seconds and ask "what else could I do that removes the guesswork?" — is simple enough to use every day and powerful enough to drive one million injury-free man-hours.Welcome and belonging are not the same thing: welcome is showing someone where the fridge is, belonging is sharing expectations, giving them a voice, and checking in at 30, 60, and 90 days so they always know where they stand.Legacy framing transforms resistant veterans into invested mentors — when you ask an experienced operator what they want their legacy to be, most have never thought about it, and the answer changes how they show up for the next generation.About the GuestHerb Sargent is the recently retired CEO and Board Chair of Sargent Corporation, a civil construction company founded by his grandfather in Orono, Maine in 1926. Over his career, Herb worked every role in the company before eventually buying it back and transitioning it to 100% employee ownership. Under his leadership, Sargent grew to 550+ employee-owners and became recognized across the Northeast for its workforce development and safety culture.Herb is the creator of Sargent's Construction Academy and the "Take Five" safety program, and has dedicated the later part of his career to ensuring every tradesperson — from laborer to superintendent — has the life skills, financial literacy, and mentorship they need to build a meaningful career and retire with dignity.Keywordsskilled trades workforce, construction workforce development, life skills for trades workers, Gen Z in construction, trades mentorship, employee ownership, construction safety, workforce pipeline, career pathways in construction, trades career development, labor shortage, jobsite culture, apprenticeship, employee retention, Herb Sargent, Sargent Corporation, The Lost Art of the Skilled TradesRESOURCE LINKSHerb Sargent on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/herb-sargent-29a791152/Sargent Corporation Website: https://www.sargent.usSUPPORT THE SHOWIf you found value in this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts and share it with someone who needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep telling the stories of the skilled trades.

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    300,000 Welders Short and It's Getting Worse

    The welder shortage has never improved in 30 years. Kris Scherm of ESAB explains why — and what it will take to fix the pipeline.When Kris Scherm entered the welding industry in the nineties, the American Welding Society reported a 150,000 welder shortage. Three decades later, that number is projected at 320,500 by 2029 — and it has never once gotten smaller. With the average shipbuilder now in their late 50s, the pipeline problem is about to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.Kris Scherm is a 30-year veteran of the welding industry and Global Product and Business Director for Light Industrial Plasma at ESAB — one of the world's leading welding and cutting companies. He's worked at the Bay Bridge, SpaceX facilities, Ford manufacturing plants, Newport News Shipbuilding, and dozens of facilities across North America. This conversation was recorded live at ESAB in Denton, Texas.This episode is for anyone who works in the skilled trades, leads a manufacturing or welding operation, or is trying to figure out how to attract the next generation to a career with their hands. Kris breaks down the workforce crisis, the Blue Collar Tour bringing welding to high schools, and why — once you realize how much welding holds the world together — you'll never walk anywhere the same way again.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – Introduction: Andrew and Kris open live from ESAB in Denton, Texas, where Kris shares how a Norwegian grandfather who built PT boats in WWII set him on a lifelong path in the trades.(00:04) – Why Welding Captures You: Kris explains what makes welding unlike any other trade — and why "if you can weld, you're a demigod" who can join metal in ways no hammer and nail ever could.(00:09) – The 300,000 Welder Shortage: The AWS shortage number has never improved in 30 years. Kris breaks down what's driving it, why AI won't save us, and what happens when an entire generation of welders ages out at once.(00:14) – The Blue Collar Tour: Western Welding Academy is taking welding on the road to high schools across the country — and ESAB is alongside them. Kris describes what happens when a kid sees a live weld for the first time.(00:19) – Mentorship and Giving Back: Kris gets personal about why mentorship matters — and why the operator who's run that machine for 10 years knows more than any outside expert walking in the door.(00:25) – The Wildest Problem-Solving Story: A mystery that warrantied two power supplies, stumped a team for days, and was finally cracked by a cigarette break and a string of passing cars.Key TakeawaysThe welder shortage has existed for over 30 years and has never improved — the AWS projects a shortage of 320,500 welders by 2029 in the U.S. alone; globally, the gap is in the millions.Welding is a technology that touches everything from the Bay Bridge to smartphones to aircraft carriers — and once you start seeing welds everywhere, you can't stop.AI is not going to replace the welder: someone still has to perform the weld, spec the process, and solve the problem on the floor — and that requires a human with hard-won skills.The most valuable expert on any production line isn't the outside consultant — it's the operator who's been running that machine every day and knows every sound it makes.About the GuestKris Scherm is the Global Product and Business Director for Light Industrial Plasma and Engine Driven Welders at ESAB, one of the world's leading manufacturers of welding and cutting equipment. With 30 years in the welding industry, Kris has worked on-site at some of the most impressive manufacturing facilities in the world — from the Bay Bridge project and SpaceX to Newport News Shipbuilding, where the U.S. Navy's aircraft carriers are built.Kris's work takes him across the globe to help manufacturers improve productivity, reduce costs, and introduce the next generation to the craft of welding. He is an active supporter of the Blue Collar Tour and Western Welding Academy's mission to bring hands-on welding experiences to students across the country.Keywordswelder shortage, welding career, skilled trades workforce, plasma cutting, welding jobs, workforce development, blue collar careers, trade careers, Gen Z in trades, apprenticeship, manufacturing jobs, shipbuilding, CNC plasma cutting, ESAB, Kris Scherm, American Welding Society, AWS, Western Welding Academy, Blue Collar Tour, Andrew Brown, Lost Art of the Skilled Trades, welding industry, industrial tradesRESOURCE LINKS Kris Scherm on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krisscherm/ ESAB Website: https://www.esab.com American Welding Society Workforce Data: https://www.weldingworkforcedata.com Western Welding Academy: https://westernweldingacademy.comSUPPORT THE SHOWIf you found value in this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts and share it with someone who needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep telling the stories of the skilled trades.

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    Sarah Stork Started Welding at 32… Now She Builds Steel Sculptures

    Welder and metal artist Sarah Stork went from farm chores to SkillsUSA national champion — and built a thriving sculpture business on her own terms.When the guys on her SkillsUSA team laughed her off on the spot, Sarah didn't sulk — she found a new event, taught herself welded sculpture from scratch, and placed second in the country on her first attempt. The year after that, she won gold. That's not beginner's luck. That's what happens when someone with the right instincts finally finds the right trade.Sarah Stork is a Georgetown, Texas-based welder, metal artist, and owner of her own sculpture studio. She holds an associate degree in welding technology from Austin Community College and certificates in plate, pipe, and structural fabrication. She's competed at the highest levels of SkillsUSA, built a wait-listed commission business, and has become one of the most recognized welded sculpture artists in the skilled trades community.This episode is for anyone who's ever been told they don't belong in the trades — and for anyone trying to turn a welding skill into a business. Sarah breaks down how she got started, what it really takes to build a welding career from scratch, and why the metal industry will always have a place for people willing to put in the work.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – Welcome & Sarah's Origin Story: Why a Texas farm wife enrolled in welding school in 2012 — and how a plan to build a simple fence launched a career in metal sculpture.(05:30) – Getting Laughed Off — Then Winning Gold: How being rejected from a team fabrication event led Sarah to discover welded sculpture, compete at SkillsUSA nationals, and win first place in 2016.(15:00) – From College Shop to Home Studio: The path from lab technician at Austin Community College to walking off a pipeline job and launching a full-time welding sculpture business in 2018.(23:00) – Women in Welding & The Metal Sandwich: Sarah's response to being told to "go make a sandwich" — and what she built instead. Why skilled trades work isn't about gender, it's about skill.(31:00) – Using LinkedIn and Social Media to Build a Client Base: How Sarah found her first commission clients online, why LinkedIn outperforms Instagram for serious buyers, and what posting consistently during COVID did for her welding business.(40:00) – The Craft, the Process, and the Blue Heron: What it takes to hand-form a six-foot steel bird with hundreds of individual feathers, why the best sculptures are "the ones that are done," and the one tool that changed everything.Key TakeawaysSkillsUSA competitions aren't just for high schoolers — college students compete too, and placing nationally can redefine your entire welding career trajectory.You don't need a website to build a thriving welding business — Sarah runs her entire client pipeline through LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok under her own name.TIG welding is one of the cleanest, highest-paid paths in the skilled trades — and states like Texas are actively investing in clean room welding training facilities right now.Mentorship is the fastest shortcut in the trades — Sarah credits her ACC instructor Thomas Hinkle for recognizing her talent and steering her toward welded sculpture before she even knew it was an option.About the GuestSarah Stork is a welder, metal sculptor, and business owner based in Georgetown, Texas. She holds an associate degree in welding technology and certificates in plate, pipe, and structural fabrication from Austin Community College. A two-time SkillsUSA competitor, she placed second at nationals in 2015 and won first place (gold) in welded sculpture in 2016. In 2018 she launched her full-time sculpture studio from her 14-acre Texas property, where she creates commissioned wildlife and abstract steel pieces for clients across the country.Her work is known for seamlessly blending welding technique and artistic finish — some clients mistake her welded steel pieces for cast sculpture. She is active on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok under her name, Sarah Stork.Keywordswelding careers, metal sculpture, skilled trades, women in welding, welded sculpture, SkillsUSA, welding school, TIG welding, Austin Community College, welding business, six-figure trades, fabrication, welding certificate, Sarah Stork, Andrew Brown, Lost Art of the Skilled Trades, Fabtech, metal art, trades entrepreneurship, Gen Z trades careers, welding salaryRESOURCE LINKSSarah Stork on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-stork-a8435a127/Sarah Stork on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah_stork_/SUPPORT THE SHOWIf you found value in this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts and share it with someone who needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep telling the stories of the skilled trades.

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    Why HVAC Technicians Can’t Afford to Skip Steps Anymore | Jay Henderek, ESAB

    HVAC systems are changing. The margin for error is shrinking.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Jay Henderek, Sales Director at ESAB, to examine why process discipline in the Skilled Trades matters more today than it did even a decade ago. As HVAC industry trends push systems to become smaller, more complex, and increasingly influenced by A2L refrigerant legislation, shortcuts that once caused minor issues can now create serious safety risks.Jay explains why nitrogen purging for brazing is no longer a “best practice” but a baseline requirement. What some technicians still treat as optional directly impacts contamination control, joint integrity, and long-term system performance. Under modern refrigerant standards, HVAC technician safety is tied to every step of preparation and execution.The conversation also explores contractor tool buying research and why disciplined professionals evaluate tools with the same care they apply to installation. In today’s environment, preparation separates respected contractors from reactive ones.From HVAC to Plumbing, Electrical, and the broader Construction trades, this episode reinforces a clear reality: as systems evolve, standards must rise with them.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – Why Skipping Steps Carries Greater Risk Today: How modern HVAC industry trends increase system complexity and raise the stakes for HVAC technician safety.(02:45) – Nitrogen Purging for Brazing: Protecting Joint Integrity - Why nitrogen purging for brazing prevents contamination and failure in sealed systems.(04:40) – A2L Refrigerant Legislation and Flammability Considerations: How A2L refrigerant legislation shifts risk profiles and demands tighter execution standards.(08:25) – Contractor Tool Buying Research: Discipline Before the Purchase: Why professional contractors evaluate tools deliberately instead of chasing features or price alone.(12:05) – Long-Term Strength vs. Quick Fixes: Why proper brazing preparation outperforms temporary patches in durability and safety.(16:45) – Reinforcing Standards Across the Skilled Trades: How manufacturers, educators, and contractors share responsibility in raising industry standards.Key TakeawaysModern HVAC systems demand greater discipline because tighter tolerances and evolving refrigerant standards reduce the margin for error.Nitrogen purging for brazing protects system integrity by preventing oxidation and contamination inside sealed lines.A2L refrigerant legislation increases flammability considerations, making preparation and procedural adherence essential for HVAC technician safety.Contractor tool buying research reflects professionalism. The best contractors approach purchases with evaluation, peer insight, and long-term thinking.In the Skilled Trades, standards do not stay static. As technology evolves, responsibility must evolve with it.About the GuestJay Henderek is Sales Director at ESAB, a global manufacturer of welding, brazing, and cutting technologies. Through brands such as TurboTorch, ESAB supports HVAC technicians, plumbers, electricians, millwrights, and contractors working in demanding field conditions.Jay focuses on advancing HVAC technician safety, reinforcing nitrogen purging for brazing standards, and helping contractors navigate HVAC industry trends and A2L refrigerant legislation through disciplined processes and education.KeywordsHVAC Industry Trends, Nitrogen Purging for Brazing, A2L Refrigerant Legislation, HVAC Technician Safety, Contractor Tool Buying Research, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, HVAC, Plumbing, Electrical, Construction, Contractors, Craftsmanship, Andrew Brown, Jay Henderek, ESAB, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilRESOURCE LINKSLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-henderek/ESAB Website: https://esab.com/us/nam_en/SUPPORT THE SHOWIf you’re getting value from these conversations and want to help keep the mics on, consider supporting the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery contribution helps us continue bringing experience-backed insights from the trades—focused on safety, standards, and long-term performance.

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    Why the Best Tradesmen Never Cut Corners with John Henderson of ESAB

    Brazing best practices, nitrogen purge brazing, and air fuel vs oxy fuel system decisions all reveal the same principle: the best tradesmen never cut corners.Host Andrew Brown sits down with John Henderson, Sales Director of Gas Equipment at ESAB, live from AHR Expo to examine why disciplined fundamentals—not speed—separate respected contractors from those constantly fixing preventable mistakes.John explains why nitrogen purge brazing is often skipped on job sites and why experienced tradesmen refuse to treat it as optional. What may look like a small time-saver can introduce internal oxidation, long-term system damage, and costly callbacks. The conversation also explores how choosing between an air fuel vs oxy fuel system requires understanding heat demands, portability, and application—not default habits.Beyond equipment and technique, Andrew and John discuss how skilled trades training and mentorship instill the discipline that defines craftsmanship. From HVAC technicians to plumbers, electricians, and construction professionals, this episode reinforces a simple truth: reputation is built on standards upheld when no one is watching.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – Why the Best Tradesmen Refuse to Cut Corners(02:18) – Job Site Shortcuts: Where Contractors Sacrifice Time or Standards(07:47) – Air Fuel vs Oxy Fuel System: Choosing Tools That Match the Work(09:05) – Nitrogen Purge Brazing: Why Fundamentals Protect System Integrity(11:08) – Skilled Trades Training and Mentorship: How Standards Are Passed Down(15:13) – Tool Durability and Maintenance: Real-World Demands vs Demo ConditionsKey TakeawaysThe best tradesmen protect their reputation by upholding fundamentals, even when shortcuts seem faster.Nitrogen purge brazing prevents internal oxidation and protects long-term system performance.Tool selection—including air fuel vs oxy fuel systems—should be based on job requirements, not convenience.Short-term speed often creates long-term rework, callbacks, and lost trust.Skilled trades training and mentorship reinforce the standards that define true craftsmanship.About the GuestJohn Henderson is Sales Director of Gas Equipment at ESAB and a 40-year veteran of the Trades Industry. He works closely with contractors across HVAC, plumbing, and construction sectors, focusing on safety, performance, and tool durability under real-world job site conditions.John is committed to strengthening skilled trades training and mentorship rooted in fundamentals. His work centers on helping contractors build durable reputations through disciplined technique and sound equipment decisions.KeywordsBrazing Best Practices, Nitrogen Purge Brazing, Air Fuel vs Oxy Fuel System, Skilled Trades Training and Mentorship, Contractor Tool Durability and Maintenance, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Construction, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Carpentry, Tradespeople, Trades Careers, Andrew Brown, John Henderson, ESAB, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Craftsmanship, Contractor Efficiency, Standards, Mentorship, Problem-Solving, Industry ExpertsRESOURCE LINKSLinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-henderson-12943611/ESAB Website: https://esab.com/us/nam_en/SUPPORT THE SHOWIf you’re getting value from these conversations and want to help keep the mics on, consider supporting the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery contribution helps us continue bringing experience-backed insights from the trades—focused on standards, discipline, and real-world performance.

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    Why Some People Succeed in the Trades — And Others Don’t

    Skilled trades careers offer another path. Tony Bertolino explains plumbing apprenticeships, on-the-job training, and why apprenticeships aren’t “less than” college.Host Andrew Brown sits down with fourth-generation plumber, contractor, apprenticeship instructor, and business owner Tony Bertolino to break down how trades careers actually develop, from plumbing apprenticeship programs and on-the-job training to the shift from technician to owner.Recorded during live apprenticeship competitions, Tony shares what sets top apprentices apart: mindset, self-discipline, and pride in doing the work well. The conversation explores why classroom learning has limits, how hands-on repetition builds real mastery, and why trades education works best when theory and field experience reinforce each other.Tony also addresses common misconceptions about plumbing, explaining its role in public health and why the work is often undervalued precisely because it’s done so well. For those considering entrepreneurship, he offers a reality check on ownership—covering responsibility, risk, mentorship, and the importance of community.Whether you’re exploring an apprenticeship, alternative education, or ownership in the trades, this episode offers grounded perspective from someone who’s lived every stage.IN THIS EPISODE(00:01) – Skilled Trades Careers Today: Pride in the work and why demand keeps rising(05:12) – Plumbing Apprenticeship Programs: What textbooks teach—and what they can’t(11:40) – On-the-Job Training in the Trades: Why hands-on repetition builds mastery(18:55) – Trades Entrepreneurship: Why ownership isn’t “overnight success”(26:30) – Mentorship, PHCC, and community: Why business owners shouldn’t operate alone(34:10) – Alternative Education Pathways: Why apprenticeships aren’t better or worse than college—just differentKey TakeawaysSkilled trades careers are built through pride, responsibility, and consistent effort—not shortcuts.Plumbing apprenticeship programs work best when classroom theory is paired with real on-the-job training.Hands-on repetition and tool confidence are difficult to teach without field experience.Plumbing protects public health through safe water and sanitation, even though the work is often invisible.Trades entrepreneurship brings freedom, but also nonstop responsibility and financial complexity.Mentorship and professional community reduce isolation and help owners make better decisions under pressure.Failure is part of learning in the trades, and progress depends on how people respond to mistakes.About the GuestTony Bertolino is a fourth-generation plumber, contractor, apprenticeship instructor, and co-owner of Bertolino Plumbing and Heating. He also serves as a national VP within the Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association (PHCC), where he supports workforce development, mentorship, and modern apprenticeship education.Tony focuses on strengthening the trades through real-world training, honest conversations about ownership, and long-term investment in people.KeywordsSkilled Trades Careers, Plumbing Apprenticeship Programs, On-the-Job Training Trades, Trades Entrepreneurship, Alternative Education Pathways, PHCC, Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association, Plumbing Contractor, Apprenticeship Instructor, Workforce Development, Mentorship, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Contractors, Plumbing, HVAC, Electricians, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Andrew Brown, Tony Bertolino, ToolfetchRESOURCE LINKSLinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-bertolino-795456367/Website: https://bertolinoinc.com/Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association: https://www.phccweb.org/SUPPORT THE SHOWIf you’re getting value from these conversations and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here →https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered, experience-backed insights from the trades—straight to your ears.

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    What Actually Separates the Best Plumbers (Character Over Skill)

    Before skill, before technology, trades careers are built on responsibility and showing up.Andrew Brown and Dan Callies, President of Oak Creek Plumbing, break down what actually sustains blue-collar careers: character, mentorship, and earned respect.Andrew and Dan explore how plumbing apprenticeships develop more than technical skill, why hire for character, train for skill remains a durable leadership principle, and what it really takes to grow from apprentice to journeyman to business owner. Drawing from decades in the field and in leadership, Dan explains how accountability, attitude, and consistency shape long-term success in the trades.The conversation also examines the AI impact on skilled trades, not as a threat to craftsmanship, but as a tool to support efficiency, diagnostics, training, and operations. Dan shares how Oak Creek Plumbing uses technology to digitize routine processes while preserving the human judgment required for hands-on problem-solving.Whether you’re considering skilled trades careers, currently in a plumbing apprenticeship, leading blue collar teams, or trying to understand how AI fits into construction and contracting, this episode delivers experience-backed insight from someone who has built both people and businesses in the trades.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – Skilled Trades Careers Today: Why the trades remain the backbone of the economy(06:10) – Hire for Character, Train for Skill: What leaders actually look for on job sites(14:45) – Plumbing Apprenticeships Explained: Earning while learning and building mastery(24:30) – The AI Impact on Skilled Trades: Digitize what you can, humanize what you must(35:50) – Blue Collar Careers vs College Debt: Time, patience, and long-term payoff(49:20) – Advice for Young People Entering Skilled Trades Careers TodayKey TakeawaysSkilled trades careers are built through consistency, responsibility, and showing up, before skill ever takes over.A plumbing apprenticeship develops technical ability, discipline, and leadership over time.Hiring for character and training for skill creates stronger tradespeople and healthier companies.The AI impact on skilled trades improves efficiency and training but cannot replace hands-on judgment or craftsmanship.About the GuestDan Callies is the President of Oak Creek Plumbing and a second-generation plumber with decades of experience in the field and in leadership. He has worked through every stage of the trade, from apprenticeship to ownership, and remains deeply involved in mentorship, workforce development, and industry advocacy.Dan is a strong proponent of apprenticeship training, union education, and responsible technology adoption. He believes the future of blue collar work depends on character, accountability, and leaders willing to invest in people over time.KeywordsSkilled Trades Careers, Plumbing Apprenticeship, Hire for Character Train for Skill, Blue Collar Leadership, AI Impact on Skilled Trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Contractors, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Plumbers, Electricians, HVAC, Carpentry, Millwrights, Andrew Brown, Dan Callies, Oak Creek Plumbing, Toolfetch, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilRESOURCE LINKSLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-callies-6a641613/Website: https://www.oakcreekplumbing.com/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Why Welding Is Losing Young Talent (And How to Fix It)

    Welding careers, welding apprenticeship programs, and the welding skills gap—Arc Junkies host Jason Becker breaks down what today’s welders need to know.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Jason Becker, Marine veteran, longtime welder, educator, and host of the Arc Junkies podcast, to explore the real-world journey from hands-on welding work to industry-wide storytelling and advocacy.This episode unpacks how years of hands-on welding experience shaped Jason’s voice as an industry advocate and podcast host—learning welding through repetition, hard work, and decades in the trade and how he went on to hosting his own podcast where he’s spent 450+ episodes amplifying honest conversations about welding careers, workforce development, and the growing welding skills gap.Together, Andrew and Jason break down what today’s welders need to know about welding apprenticeship programs, trade school for welding, mentorship, pay progression, and why the trades struggle to attract and retain the next generation. The conversation also highlights how platforms like the Arc Junkies podcast help reshape how young people view welding and the broader Skilled Trades.Whether you’re considering a career in welding, already working under the hood, or interested in how storytelling can influence the Trades Industry, this episode delivers grounded, experience-backed insight.IN THIS EPISODE(00:01) – From Under the Hood: Jason Becker’s welding origin story(07:45) – Military welding, ironwork, and decades in the field(16:10) – To the Mic: Taking over the Arc Junkies podcast(27:30) – Welding Apprenticeship Programs vs Trade School for Welding(40:50) – The Welding Skills Gap: pay, perception, and mentorship failures(55:40) – Why storytelling matters for the future of welding careersKey TakeawaysWelding careers are built through time under the hood—real skill takes repetition, patience, and mentorship.Welding apprenticeship programs and trade school for welding both play critical roles, depending on career goals and access.The welding skills gap is driven as much by culture, pay stagnation, and weak mentorship as by labor shortages.Moving from the shop floor to platforms like the Arc Junkies podcast shows how tradespeople can lead industry advocacy and education.About the GuestJason Becker is a Marine veteran, professional welder, educator, and host of the Arc Junkies podcast. With decades of experience in welding, construction, and workforce training, Jason has become a trusted voice in conversations around welding careers, skills development, and the future of the Skilled Trades. His work bridges hands-on craftsmanship with industry-wide storytelling and advocacy.KeywordsWelding Careers, Welding Apprenticeship Programs, Welding Skills Gap, Trade School for Welding, Arc Junkies Podcast, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Contractors, Industry Experts, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Construction, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Jason Becker, Andrew Brown, Arc Junkies, Toolfetch, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Education, AdvocacyRESOURCE LINKSLinkedIn Profile: linkedin.com/in/jason-becker-45407b72Arc Junkies Podcast: https://arcjunkies.com/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    You’re Not Who We Want Out Here: A Woman’s Reality in the Skilled Trades

    The first thing a superintendent said to Valerie Butler on a jobsite was: ‘You’re not who we want out here.’”Host Andrew Brown sits down with Valerie Butler, a plumbing apprentice at P.I.P.E. Incorporated, to explore how to build a successful plumbing career path in today’s skilled trades industry. Valerie shares her journey from the Marine Corps to a hands-on plumbing apprenticeship, offering real insight into military to trades career transitions, job site realities, and the value of skilled trades mentorship.This episode takes an honest look at what it’s like being one of the first women in a company’s apprenticeship program, how plumbers actually get started without industry connections, and why the trades offer long-term opportunity without college debt. If you’re exploring women in the skilled trades, considering a plumbing apprenticeship, or looking for a proven plumbing career path, this conversation delivers practical guidance from someone living it.IN THIS EPISODE(00:01) – From Military to Trades Career: How Valerie transitioned from the Marine Corps into a plumbing apprenticeship(07:58) – Plumbing Apprenticeship 101: How to get hired, what first-year plumbers actually do(15:40) – Women in the Skilled Trades: Navigating job sites, skepticism, and earning respect(26:22) – Skilled Trades Mentorship: Why the right foreman changes everything(35:55) – Plumbing Career Path & Pay Progression: Apprentice wages vs journeyman income(47:30) – Advice for Gen Z & Career Changers: How to test trades careers without long-term risk Key TakeawaysA plumbing apprenticeship provides paid education and long-term career security without student loan debt.Women in the skilled trades are reshaping construction culture through planning, leadership, and problem-solving.Military to trades career transitions offer a strong advantage, especially in discipline, confidence, and adaptability.Skilled trades mentorship accelerates learning, builds confidence, and shortens the path to mastery. About the GuestValerie Butler is a plumbing apprentice at P.I.P.E. Incorporated and a passionate advocate for women in the skilled trades. After leaving the Marine Corps due to injury, Valerie pursued a plumbing apprenticeship, proving that a military to trades career can lead to stability, growth, and fulfillment.As one of the first women apprentices in her company, Valerie actively supports skilled trades mentorship, participates in career fairs, and uses LinkedIn to help more women explore sustainable plumbing career paths in the trades industry.KeywordsWomen in the Skilled Trades, Plumbing Apprenticeship, Military to Trades Career, Skilled Trades Mentorship, Plumbing Career Path, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Valerie Butler, P.I.P.E. Incorporated, Toolfetch, Plumbers, Electricians, HVAC, Carpentry, Millwrights, Construction, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Advocacy, Contractors, Industry Experts, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilRESOURCE LINKSWebsite: https://pipeinc.net/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    How to Build a Career in Aircraft Maintenance (FAA Certified, In-Demand)

    Aircraft maintenance is the backbone of aviation safety. Andrew Brown and Jason Pfaff break down the aircraft maintenance technician shortage, FAA A&P certification, and aviation careers.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Jason Pfaff, CEO of the Aviation Institute of Maintenance, to explore the unseen world of aircraft maintenance and why the growing aircraft maintenance technician shortage is becoming a serious issue across the aviation industry.They unpack what goes into keeping planes airworthy, why FAA A&P certification is one of the most rigorous credentials in the skilled trades, and how aviation maintenance school serves Gen Z, career changers, and hands-on problem solvers alike. The conversation also maps the long-term aviation mechanic career path, including pay progression, mobility, and opportunities beyond commercial airlines.This episode is essential listening for anyone curious about Skilled Trades, the Trades Industry, or high-impact careers built on craftsmanship, precision, and responsibility.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – Aircraft Maintenance Explained: What the public doesn’t see behind every flight(01:27) – The Aircraft Maintenance Technician Shortage: Why aviation is facing a workforce gap(08:17) – FAA A&P Certification: Why aviation mechanics are held to a higher standard(13:40) – Aviation Maintenance School: Program length, structure, and return on investment(18:56) – Career Placement & Mobility: Airlines, MROs, space, and advanced aerospace roles(26:05) – The Aviation Mechanic Career Path: Earnings, leadership tracks, and long-term growthKey TakeawaysAircraft maintenance is a highly coordinated, safety-critical system that most passengers never notice—until something goes wrong.The aircraft maintenance technician shortage is structural, driven by retirements, reduced trade pipelines, and rising travel demand.FAA A&P certification provides standardized credibility, portability, and strong employer demand across aviation and aerospace.An aviation maintenance school pathway offers a high-ROI skilled trade with a scalable aviation mechanic career path.About the GuestJason Pfaff is the CEO of the Aviation Institute of Maintenance, one of the nation’s largest aviation training organizations. He leads initiatives focused on workforce development, FAA-aligned education, and career placement across commercial aviation, MROs, and aerospace employers. Jason is a vocal advocate for Trades Careers, education access, and strengthening the skilled trades pipeline nationwide.KeywordsAircraft Maintenance, Aircraft Maintenance Technician Shortage, FAA A&P Certification, Aviation Maintenance School, Aviation Mechanic Career Path, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Advocacy, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Andrew Brown, Jason Pfaff, Aviation Institute of Maintenance, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Contractors, Industry ExpertsRESOURCE LINKSLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-pfaff-210a3578/Website: https://aviationmaintenance.edu/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Welding Workforce Shortage: How to Get Into the Welding Trade & Where Welding Jobs Are Headed

    Host Andrew Brown tackles the growing welding workforce shortage and explains why it’s one of the most urgent challenges facing the construction and skilled trades industries today. As experienced tradespeople retire and fewer young workers enter the pipeline, the future of welding jobs in the U.S. hangs in the balance.Andrew breaks down how to get into the welding trade, why traditional advice is failing Gen Z, and what’s missing from today’s education system. He explores skilled trades careers for Gen Z, highlighting how craftsmanship, problem-solving, and creativity are being overlooked in favor of outdated college-only narratives.The episode also compares welder apprenticeship vs trade school, showing contractors, parents, and young workers how to evaluate real career pathways not marketing promises. Along the way, Andrew ties welding to the broader ecosystem of carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, millwrights, and the entire trades industry, calling for stronger advocacy and leadership from industry experts, contractors, and organizations like the Skilled Trades Advisory Council.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) Why This Episode Matters: The Welding Workforce Shortage & AWS Summit Context (02:19) 9/11, the Trades, and Why This Mission Became Personal (05:13) From IT to Trades Advocacy: Building Toolfetch and Telling Trade Stories (07:28) Why Gen Z Isn’t Entering the Trades: Shop Class, Guidance Counselors, and Perception (09:47) Trade School vs Reality: Barriers to Entry and Early-Career Frustration (11:49) How to Get Into the Welding Trade: Standing Out, Follow-Up, and Personal Branding (14:17) The Future of Welding Jobs in the U.S. and Why AI Won’t Replace the Trades (16:44) Final Advice: Earning Your Stripes, Staying Patient, and Building a CareerKEY TAKEAWAYSThe welding workforce shortage is a long-term structural problem driven by retirements, broken education pipelines, and poor messaging.The future of welding jobs in the U.S. remains strong, stable, and essential to construction, infrastructure, and manufacturing.Choosing between welder apprenticeship vs trade school depends on mentorship, employer commitment, and real job placement—not tuition price alone.Skilled trades careers for Gen Z must be reframed around purpose, creativity, problem-solving, and long-term opportunity.KEYWORDS:Welding workforce shortage, How to get into the welding trade, Skilled trades careers for Gen Z, Welder apprenticeship vs trade school, Future of welding jobs in the U.S., Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilABOUT THE HOSTAndrew Brown is the host of The Lost Art of the Skilled Trades podcast and the founder of Trades Media. He works with industry leaders, educators, and employers to close the skilled trades workforce gap by telling real, on-the-job stories that resonate with the next generation. Andrew focuses full-time on elevating trades careers through podcasting, keynote speaking, and live event activations across North America.SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Plumbing, Pressure & Competition: Lessons from A WorldSkills Competitor with Charles Goede

    Want to start a plumbing career? Charles Goede joins host Andrew Brown to break down trade school training, union apprenticeships, and the SkillsUSA competition.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Charles Goede , the U.S. competitor for WorldSkills Plumbing & Heating 2026, to explore how a young tradesperson rises through trade school training, excels in the SkillsUSA competition, and builds a long-term plumbing career.Charles opens up about mentors who shaped him, the reality of union apprenticeships, what it’s like to compete on a world stage, and how the skilled trades create life-changing opportunities—from travel to high-earning work to lifelong craftsmanship.Whether you’re curious about entering the trades industry, pursuing plumbing, or navigating union vs. non-union opportunities, this episode delivers raw, real-world insight from someone who’s lived it.IN THIS EPISODE(00:01) – Starting a Plumbing Career Through Trade School Training. How Charles discovered trade school training, joined SkillsUSA, and realized the skilled trades were the right path.(05:22) – SkillsUSA Competition: Pressure, Performance & Personal Growth. Charles explains competing at the SkillsUSA competition, winning Connecticut, and placing second in the nation—plus the nerves of performing in front of thousands.(12:18) – Family Influence, Mentorship & Finding the Right Trade. Why he chose a plumbing career over welding or electrical, and how mentors, teachers, and his cousin guided him through early decision-making.(18:40) – Big Mechanical Systems & Daily Problem-Solving in the Skilled Trades. A look at boilers, chillers, steam systems, blueprints, and why problem-solving is the heart of craftsmanship in the skilled trades.(24:50) – Union Apprenticeships: Pay, Benefits & How to Get In. Charles breaks down why he recommends union apprenticeships, how competitive they are, and how persistence helps apprentices get accepted.(32:15) – Preparing for WorldSkills 2026: Metric Systems, Training & Mental Toughness. Inside the intense world of WorldSkills: simulations, training on European plumbing systems, mental discipline, and representing the U.S. next year.KEY TAKEAWAYSTrade school training opens real pathways into high-earning, meaningful careers in the skilled trades.Union apprenticeships offer unmatched pay, training, and benefits, but require persistence and commitment.The SkillsUSA competition builds confidence, problem-solving skills, and exposure to elite craftsmanship.A successful plumbing career combines hands-on learning, mentorship, field experience, and adaptability—especially on major construction projects.ABOUT THE GUESTCharles Goede is a rising leader in America’s skilled trades and the official U.S. competitor for WorldSkills Plumbing & Heating 2026. After launching his plumbing career through trade school training, Charles excelled in the SkillsUSA competition, winning Connecticut and placing second nationally.A proud member of his union, he advocates strongly for union apprenticeships, hands-on education, and real-world mentorship while training full-time to compete on the world stage.KEYWORDSSkilled Trades, Plumbing Career, Union Apprenticeships, SkillsUSA Competition, Trade School Training, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Charles Goede, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Carpentry, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Contractors, Industry Experts, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilRESOURCE LINKSSkillsUSA: https://www.skillsusa.org/WorldSkills: https://worldskillsusa.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    The Truth About Plumbing Careers — Purpose, Pay & Starting at 40

    Career change at 40? Learn how skilled trades careers, plumbing apprenticeships, and the Trade Up Program help adults start working with your hands.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Lixil America’s Senior National Sales Trainer Vinny Arnese to unpack what it really looks like to make a career change at 40, begin a plumbing apprenticeship, join the Skilled Trades, or shift into a hands-on career through the Trade Up Program.They break down the rising demand for skilled trades careers, why so many people over 40 are ditching white-collar stress for working with your hands, and how Lixil’s national initiatives support contractors, educators, and the next generation through real advocacy.Whether you're exploring a career change at 40, researching skilled trades careers, or considering a plumbing apprenticeship, this episode delivers grounded advice, personal stories, and real industry insight you won’t hear anywhere else.IN THIS EPISODE:● (00:00) – Why Skilled Trades Careers Are Exploding: Demand, wages, and why more people make a career change at 40.● (04:52) – Is It Too Late at 40? Real stories of adults shifting careers and finally enjoying working with your hands.● (10:41) – Inside the Trade Up Program: How Lixil America is reshaping pathways into skilled trades careers through advocacy & education.● (18:22) – What a Plumbing Apprenticeship Really Looks Like: Earn-while-you-learn, tuition support, and contractor pathways.● (25:55) – Gen Z, School Counselors & Trades Education: Why the industry needs more structured messaging and exposure.● (32:14) – Purpose & Fulfillment Through Hands-On Work: Problem-solving, craftsmanship, and why working with your hands transforms lives.Key Takeaways:● A career change at 40 is not only realistic—it’s becoming one of the fastest-growing entry points into skilled trades careers.● A plumbing apprenticeship gives you paid training, fast advancement, and long-term job security without student debt.● Lixil America’s Trade Up Program is helping adults and students find real pathways into the trades through advocacy and hands-on exposure.● Working with your hands offers creativity, purpose, problem-solving, and financial stability in a way many white-collar roles no longer provide.About the Guest Vinny Arnese is the Senior National Sales Trainer for Lixil America, representing American Standard, GROHE, and DXV. He leads Lixil’s nationwide Trade Up Program, an initiative designed to close the talent gap by guiding students, adults, contractors, and educators toward skilled trades careers—including mechanical, plumbing, HVAC, electricians, millwrights, and construction.A passionate advocate for the Skilled Trades, Vinny works closely with educators, unions, contractors, and industry experts. His mission is to help anyone—from high school students to those making a career change at 40—discover the stability and fulfillment of working with your hands through training, mentorship, and access to proper education pathways like a plumbing apprenticeship.Keywords Career Change at 40, Skilled Trades Careers, Plumbing Apprenticeship, Trade Up Program, Working With Your Hands, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Vinny Arnese, Lixil, Lixil America, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Contractors, Industry Experts, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResource Links:Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinny-arnese-7a71006b/Lixil Website: https://www.lixil.com/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Why Union Careers Win: Pension, 401(k), and Healthcare Benefits Explained w/ Tom Bigley

    Union-backed skilled trades careers create long-term opportunity. Tom Bigley joins host Andrew Brown to break down trade school options, union benefits, and how to launch a successful path in the trades industry.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Tom Bigley, Director of Plumbing Services for the United Association, to explore how today’s skilled trades careers really work—covering everything from plumbing union entry requirements to why modern apprenticeships and trade school pipelines offer unmatched union benefits and long-term security.Tom shares 40+ years of insights on recruitment, opportunities for women, career advancement, pension programs, and how the next generation can thrive across plumbing, welding, HVAC, carpentry, and other trades.Whether you’re a student, a parent, or someone considering a mid-life pivot into the skilled trades, this episode provides clear, real-world guidance from one of the most respected leaders in the trades industry.IN THIS EPISODE00:01 – Skilled Trades Benefits & Union Advantages: How pensions, healthcare, and union benefits make trades careers uniquely stable.04:18 – Plumbing Union Career Paths: Tom explains the United Association, leadership roles, and how the plumbing union builds future tradespeople.11:02 – What Makes Great Apprentices?: Communication, work ethic, and the essential soft skills behind successful apprenticeships.17:45 – Trade School & Technology Evolution: How modern trade school programs and training centers raise the bar for today’s skilled workers.25:30 – Recruiting Gen Z & Educating Parents: Why awareness of skilled trades benefits must start at home.34:40 – How to Join the Union: Step-By-Step: Application tips, timelines, requirements, and how anyone can begin a skilled trades career.KEY TAKEAWAYSApprenticeships in the plumbing union provide unmatched union benefits, from paid training to pensions and healthcare—making them one of the strongest entry points into the skilled trades.Trade school and apprenticeships create a debt-free, high-income pathway, often outperforming traditional college outcomes.The plumbing union develops more than just craft skills—it produces leaders, project managers, and industry innovators.Skilled trades careers offer stability, upward mobility, and real purpose, especially as labor shortages increase opportunities nationwide.ABOUT THE GUESTTom Bigley is the Director of Plumbing Services for the United Association, representing nearly 400,000 tradespeople across plumbing, HVAC, welding, sprinkler fitting, and pipeline work in the U.S. and Canada. With over 44 years in the skilled trades, Tom has served as a business manager, international leader, and Chairman of the World Plumbing Council. He is a lifelong advocate for apprenticeships, trade school pathways, strong union benefits, and building the future of the skilled trades workforce.KEYWORDS Skilled Trades, skilled trades careers, Plumbing Union, plumbing union benefits, Apprenticeships, apprenticeship programs, Trade School Training, union benefits, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Problem-solving, Creativity, Andrew Brown, Tom Bigley, Toolfetch, Plumbing Services of United Association, Industry Experts, Contractors, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Education, Workforce Development, Labor Shortage Solutions, Union vs Non-UnionResource LinksWebsite: https://ua.org/plumbers/PHCC website: https//phccweb.orgPHCC membership web page: https//phccweb.org/membershipSUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Inside Home Depot’s $50 Million Commitment to America’s Skilled Trades

    Behind every home built and tool lifted, the Home Depot Foundation is powering skilled trades careers through its Path to Pro trade programs. Courtney Jenkins from the Home Depot Foundation joins host Andrew Brown to discuss how to start a career in the trades, and what’s next for the trades industry.Host Andrew Brown welcomes Courtney Jenkins, Manager of National Programs and Strategic Partnerships at the Home Depot Foundation, for a deep dive into the future of skilled trades careers. Discover how trade programs, Path to Pro, and national partnerships are training thousands for construction jobs, HVAC, carpentry, plumbing, and electrical careers.Whether you’re exploring education in the trades, a contractor seeking new talent, or someone curious about craftsmanship and problem-solving, this episode shows how advocacy, access, and mentorship are closing the skilled labor gap.IN THIS EPISODE(00:00) – Skilled Trades as Option A: Why trades careers deserve to be the first choice, not a fallback.(06:45) – Home Depot Foundation’s $50M Commitment: How investment fuels trade programs nationwide.(13:10) – Path to Pro Platform: Training, mentorship, and scholarships for construction jobs and trades careers.(22:30) – Fixing the Labor Shortage: How the trades industry is rebuilding America’s workforce.(33:50) – Real-Life Impact Stories: From high school programs to veterans finding their calling.(46:15) – Get Involved: How to join Path to Pro, volunteer, or start your own skilled trades initiative.Key TakeawaysThe Skilled Trades = Essential Careers: The trades industry fuels America’s economy with construction jobs, HVAC, electricians, carpenters, and plumbers who create lasting impact.$50M in Action: Home Depot Foundation’s Impact: Through national trade programs like Path to Pro, the Home Depot Foundation has trained 60,000+ participants and introduced 490,000 people to skilled trades opportunities.Education + Advocacy Build the Pipeline: The next generation of tradespeople needs strong mentors, inclusive education, and a culture that celebrates craftsmanship and problem-solving.Path to Pro = Path to Success: With free training, scholarships, and job connections, Path to Pro makes starting in the skilled trades accessible, debt-free, and rewarding.About the GuestCourtney Jenkins serves as Manager of National Programs and Strategic Partnerships at the Home Depot Foundation, leading initiatives that expand access to trade programs, strengthen the trades industry, and help close the construction jobs gap. Through Path to Pro, she advocates for education, diversity, and long-term career growth in the skilled trades.Keywords Skilled Trades, Construction Jobs, Home Depot Foundation, Trade Programs, Path to Pro, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Courtney Jenkins, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Contractors, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResource LinksHome Depot's Path to Pro Website: https://pathtopro.comLinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneyjenkins90/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    From Trader Joe’s to Trades: Why It’s Never Too Late to Start Over with Brandon McKane

    Electrician apprenticeship, union vs non-union electricians, and the career change to trades — a story for anyone wondering if it’s too late to start over.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Brandon McKane, a former Trader Joe’s manager who walked away from corporate life at 36 to begin an electrician apprenticeship and rebuild his life in the skilled trades industry.With over 80,000 electricians needed every year through 2030, Brandon’s journey offers a real-world look at why so many people are leaving their desks behind for hands-on work — and how a career change to trades can bring purpose, stability, and pride.They talk about the emotional and financial leap of starting over, the reality of apprentice pay, what it’s like to explain the shift to your family, and how the right mentors can change everything. Brandon also shares the unfiltered truth about the union vs non-union electrician experience, and what it takes to go from shop helper to journeyman.IN THIS EPISODE: 00:00 – The electrician shortage: why 80,000 are needed every year02:35 – Meet Brandon McKane: from Trader Joe’s to trades07:10 – The pay cut, the leap, and family conversations12:42 – Apprenticeship reality: pay, training, and safety19:18 – Union vs non-union: pros, cons, and real numbers25:36 – Mentorship and learning from journeymen32:10 – Social media’s impact on the new generation of tradespeople38:20 – Why it’s never too late to start over44:55 – The future of electrification and opportunityKEY TAKEAWAYS:Why America needs 80,000 electricians a year — and where that demand is coming fromHow Brandon left a 15-year corporate career to start over at 36The truth about apprentice pay vs. long-term earningsUnion vs non-union electricians: what he learned on both sidesHow tradespeople often earn more than many white-collar careersThe mindset shift: finding purpose, progress, and pride in hands-on workWhy mentorship and the right foreman can change your lifeHow the trades can become more welcoming to everyoneWhy it’s never too late for a career change to tradesABOUT THE GUEST:Brandon McKane is a non-union apprentice electrician at Sunlight & Power (Berkeley, CA). After 15+ years in retail management, he made a career change to trades, attends night classes, and works on prevailing-wage solar projects. He’s passionate about safety, mentorship, craftsmanship, and helping others navigate how to become an electrician through the electrician apprenticeship route—union or non-union.KEYWORDS:electrician apprenticeship, skilled trades careers, electrician shortage 2030, union vs non-union electricians, career change to trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Brandon McKane, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilRESOURCE LINKS:LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonjmckane/overlay/photo/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Miller Welding Cobots Are Creating More Welding Jobs with Sam Noland

    Cobot welding, welding automation, and collaborative robots are transforming skilled trades careers amid a major welder shortage.Host Andrew Brown talks with Sam Noland of ITW Miller Welding Automation about how cobot welding empowers Tradespeople across Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, and Construction. They explore training, ROI, and how automation is elevating—not replacing—the Skilled Trades Industry.Whether you're a Contractor, Industry Expert, or student exploring Trades Careers, this episode uncovers how collaborative robots bridge technology and Craftsmanship, fueling the next generation of Problem-solving and Creativity in the Trades Industry.IN THIS EPISODE:(00:00) — What cobot welding is and why it’s reshaping Skilled Trades Careers.(06:12) — How collaborative robots extend the careers of veteran welders and reduce fatigue.(12:45) — The welder shortage: how automation and trade-school reform create opportunity.(19:30) — Real-world welding automation ROI and cost breakdown for small shop owners.(27:05) — Partnering with Toolfetch, Contractors, and Industry Experts for training and Education.(33:50) — Future of Skilled Trades: how Automation, Craftsmanship, and Advocacy intersect.Key Takeaways:Cobot welding and welding automation expand—not eliminate—jobs by enhancing Craftsmanship and efficiency in Skilled Trades.Collaborative robots speed up production while keeping quality high, addressing the growing welder shortage.Skilled trades careers in HVAC, Carpentry, Electricians, Plumbers, and Millwrights are evolving to include robotics and automation skills.Partnerships with Toolfetch, Industry Experts, and the Skilled Trades Advisory Council are critical to advancing Education, Problem-solving, and Creativity in the Trades Industry.About the Guest:Sam Noland is an Advanced Process Specialist at ITW Miller Welding Automation, where he leads initiatives in cobot welding and welding automation integration for global manufacturing clients. A champion for Tradespeople and Skilled Trades Education, Sam helps shops leverage collaborative robots to boost quality, efficiency, and career longevity. His work embodies the next evolution of Craftsmanship—where technology meets human skill.Keywords:Cobot Welding, Welding Automation, Collaborative Robots, Welder Shortage, Skilled Trades Careers, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Tradespeople, Contractors, Industry Experts, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Education, Advocacy, Andrew Brown, Sam NolandResource Links:LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-noland-66285262/

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    Welding the American Dream: How John King Built Success Without College or Connections

    Welding careers, skilled trades, and welding apprenticeship programs take center stage as Andrew Brown sits down with John King of JK Welding at the FABTECH welding expo.Host Andrew Brown explores how welding careers grow through passion, not just pay, and why Skilled Trades like construction, HVAC, plumbing, and carpentry remain the backbone of the Trades Industry. From welding apprenticeship programs to pipeline welding jobs, John King shares his real-world lessons on leadership, craftsmanship, and mentoring the next generation of tradespeople.If you’re curious about trades careers, the Skilled Trades Advisory Council, or how to scale a fabrication business like JK Welding, this episode delivers practical guidance for aspiring industry experts, contractors, and hands-on creators.IN THIS EPISODE:(00:00) – Welding Careers & Passion: Why passion fuels long-term success in the Skilled Trades and welding careers more than money ever could.(07:45) – Gen Z & Apprenticeship Programs: How to build a stronger welding apprenticeship pipeline and inspire new tradespeople through education.(16:20) – Is Welding a Dying Trade?: The truth about the Trades Industry shortage and how pipeline welding jobs offer growth opportunities.(24:05) – From Welder to Entrepreneur: John King on building JK Welding, scaling with craftsmanship, and leading skilled contractors.(33:10) – Career Growth Paths: How trades careers in construction, millwrighting, and electricians compare to pipeline welding jobs for earning potential.(42:30) – Skilled Trades Advocacy: How the Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Toolfetch, and industry experts strengthen education across the trades.KEY TAKEAWAYS:● Welding careers begin with passion. The most successful tradespeople master craftsmanship, problem-solving, and creativity before chasing paychecks.● Welding apprenticeship programs are the cornerstone of education in the Trades Industry, helping Gen Z build lifelong trades careers.● Pipeline welding jobs and field work can lead to six-figure incomes—but balance matters for family life and stability.● Collaboration among industry experts, contractors, Toolfetch, and the Skilled Trades Advisory Council drives advocacy and long-term sustainability for the Skilled Trades.ABOUT THE GUEST:John King, founder and CEO of JK Welding, transformed his love for welding into one of Texas’s leading fabrication shops. A self-taught entrepreneur, John built his company on craftsmanship, problem-solving, and mentorship—helping grow welding apprenticeship opportunities for the next generation of tradespeople. His leadership in the Trades Industry has made him a respected voice for education, advocacy, and Skilled Trades innovation showcased at the FABTECH welding expo.Keywords Welding Careers, Skilled Trades, Welding Apprenticeship, Pipeline Welding Jobs, FABTECH Welding Expo, Trades Industry, Construction, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Contractors, Industry Experts, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Education, AdvocacyResource Links: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-king-15675117/Website: https://jkwelding.net/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jkwelding/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    AI Isn’t Taking Your Welding Job with Tyler Sasse, Western Welding Academy

    Skilled trades careers and welding salaries revealed! Host Andrew Brown talks with Western Welding Academy’s Tyler Sasse about apprenticeships, high-pressure pipe welding, and how Gen Z is reshaping the trades industry.Host Andrew Brown talks with Tyler Sasse, CEO of Western Welding Academy, to uncover the realities of skilled trades careers today. From welding jobs salary myths to the truth about welding apprenticeship programs and why high-pressure pipe welding remains one of the most lucrative specialties, they dig into how young Tradespeople can build rewarding Trades Careers in construction, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, and more.They also discuss the role of Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, and Creativity in the Trades Industry, plus the impact of advocacy groups advocacy efforts like the Skilled Trades Advisory Council and industry partners (like Toolfetch) that support gear, learning, and growth.Timestamps00:00 — Why Skilled Trades matter now: Host Andrew Brown sets the stage; introducing Tyler Sasse and Western Welding Academy; outcomes vs. myths around welding jobs salary.04:12 — Gen Z motivations & training: Hands-on learning, Education pathways, and how welding apprenticeship programs build Problem-solving and Creativity.12:45 — Where the money is: Why high-pressure pipe welding commands top rates; clarifying Trades Careers across HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, and Construction.21:30 — From worker to owner: Craftsmanship, leadership, and scaling impact; connecting with Industry Experts, Contractors, and tools suppliers like Toolfetch.31:05 — Curriculum & outcomes: How Western Welding Academy measures success; pay-stub proof of welding jobs salary; advancing within the Trades Industry.42:18 — Advocacy & next steps: Building community through the Skilled Trades Advisory Council; practical routes into skilled trades careers and sustaining Tradespeople growth.Key TakeawaysOutcomes beat opinions: Real welding jobs salary data and pay-stubs show strong earnings—especially via high-pressure pipe welding and structured welding apprenticeship programs.Talent needs direction: Gen Z brings Creativity and grit; the right Education pathway in Skilled Trades turns potential into professional Craftsmanship and career mobility.Broader ecosystem matters: Success spans Construction, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights—with Industry Experts, Contractors, and partners like Toolfetch supporting tools, training, and hiring.Advocacy drives access: The Skilled Trades Advisory Council and community voices (e.g., Andrew Brown, Tyler Sasse) elevate Trades Careers, Problem-solving, and long-term paths in the Trades Industry.About the GuestTyler Sasse is the CEO/founder of Western Welding Academy, a training organization focused on production-grade quality, work ethic, and job-ready outcomes. His team emphasizes welding apprenticeship programs, advanced techniques like high-pressure pipe welding, and career coaching that leads to real-world gains in welding jobs salary across the Trades Industry.Keywords:Skilled Trades Careers, Welding Jobs Salary, Western Welding Academy, High-Pressure Pipe Welding, Welding Apprenticeship Programs, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Construction, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Andrew Brown, Tyler Sasse, Toolfetch, Industry Experts, Contractors, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Education, Advocacy, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realtylersasse/?hl=enYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RealTylerSasseWebsite: https://www.westernweldingacademy.com/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    How Lowe’s Is Investing $50 Million to Build the Next Generation of Tradespeople

    What would you do with $50 million? Lowe’s decided to invest it into the future of the skilled trades—training 50,000 people for careers in plumbing, welding, electrical, HVAC, and more.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Betsy Conway, Director of the Lowe’s Foundation, to explore how skilled trades careers are being shaped by Lowe’s Foundation grants, plumbing apprenticeship programs, and SkillsUSA training programs. They dive deep into how nonprofits, community colleges, and industry experts are tackling the welding workforce shortage, empowering new electricians, plumbers, carpenters, HVAC techs, and contractors.Whether you’re just starting in the trades industry or looking to grow, this episode delivers insights into mentorship, craftsmanship, problem-solving, and trades careers advocacy that define the future of the skilled trades.IN THIS EPISODE:● (00:00) – Skilled Trades Careers Overview: Why the trades industry needs plumbers, electricians, carpenters, and HVAC pros now more than ever.● (02:15) – Lowe’s Foundation Grants: Investing $50M to train 50,000 people for rewarding trades careers.● (08:40) – Welding Workforce Shortage: Why the U.S. needs 320,000 welders by 2029 and how SkillsUSA training programs are stepping in.● (15:10) – Plumbing Apprenticeship Programs: How mentorship, apprenticeships, and education change lives.● (23:30) – Education & Access: Mobile training labs bringing opportunity to underserved communities.● (35:55) – Tools of the Trade Advice: Betsy Conway’s no-limits mindset for aspiring tradespeople.Key Takeaways:● Lowe’s Foundation grants are fueling innovation at community colleges and nonprofits, making skilled trades careers more accessible.● The welding workforce shortage is real—hundreds of thousands of welders are needed, and SkillsUSA training programs are preparing the next generation● Plumbing apprenticeship programs and mentorship create viable career paths for women, career changers, and young professionals.● Success in the trades industry relies on craftsmanship, creativity, advocacy, and strong peer networks of tradespeople.About the Guest:Betsy Conway is the Director of the Lowe’s Foundation, where she leads initiatives to tackle America’s skilled trades workforce crisis. Through strategic Lowe’s Foundation grants and partnerships with nonprofits, community colleges, and SkillsUSA training programs, she helps create accessible plumbing apprenticeship programs, addresses the welding workforce shortage, and champions opportunities for future electricians, carpenters, HVAC techs, contractors, and millwrights.Keywords:Skilled Trades Careers, Lowe’s Foundation Grants, Plumbing Apprenticeship Programs, Welding Workforce Shortage, SkillsUSA Training Programs, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Contractors, Tradespeople, Andrew Brown, Betsy Conway, Lowes Foundation, Toolfetch, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Industry Experts, Advocacy, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Education, Mentorship, Trades Careers GrowthResource Links:Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsy-conway/Lowe’s Foundation: https://lowesfoundation.orgInstagram: @LowesFoundationSUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Women in Welding: Breaking Barriers in Skilled Trades Careers with Shanen Aranmor

    Women in welding, skilled trades careers, and welding education programs take center stage. Shanen Aranmor of Weld Like a Girl joins host Andrew Brown to explore virtual welding training, SkillsUSA welding, and how mentorship and early exposure shape the next generation of tradespeople.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Shanen Aranmor, founder of Weld Like a Girl, to discuss breaking stigmas in the trades industry and opening doors to rewarding skilled trades careers. From welding education programs and virtual welding training to SkillsUSA welding competitions, Shannon shares actionable ways to inspire tradespeople—from second graders to Gen Z apprentices.Whether you’re interested in carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, or millwrights, this episode reveals how craftsmanship, problem-solving, and creativity fuel career growth in the skilled trades.IN THIS EPISODE:(00:00) – Why skilled trades careers matter and the stigma facing women in welding(04:35) – Encouragement, guidance counselors, and role models for women in welding(12:20) – Early exposure: shop classes, welding education programs, and community colleges(22:50) – Tech that sparks interest: virtual welding training, gamification, and simulators(35:30) – Homeschool competitions, mentorship, teamwork, and craftsmanship(52:15) – Inside SkillsUSA welding: sculpture judging, soft skills, and employer expectationsKey TakeawaysExposure changes everything. Kids can’t pursue skilled trades careers if they’ve never seen welding booths, tools, or shop classes.Representation is powerful. Role models show that women in welding belong in the trades industry.Tech builds bridges. Virtual welding training creates safe and scalable on-ramps for students and schools.Soft skills matter. SkillsUSA welding competitions reward teamwork, communication, and professionalism as much as technical skills.About the GuestShanen Aranmor, founder of Weld Like a Girl, is a certified welding inspector, educator, and fabricator based in Yuma, AZ. She develops welding education programs for schools, veterans, and youth, advocates for women in welding, and champions pathways into skilled trades careers.KeywordsWomen in Welding, Skilled Trades Careers, Welding Education Programs, Virtual Welding Training, SkillsUSA Welding, Shanen Aranmor, Weld Like a Girl, Andrew Brown, Michael Krupnicki, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Industry Experts, Contractors, Toolfetch, SkillsUSAResourcesLinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanenaranmor/Website: https://weldlikeagirl.us/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Building Trades Careers for Autistic Youth: Employment & Advocacy w/ Danny Combs

    Autism skilled trades programs are transforming careers. Danny Combs joins Andrew Brown to discuss TACT, electrician training, and workforce development.Host Andrew Brown speaks with Danny Combs, founder of Teaching the Autism Community Trades (TACT), about how autism skilled trades programs create real opportunities for employment for autistic adults in trades. They break down how electrician training for autistic individuals, carpentry, HVAC, and welding are reshaping the trades industry—and why neurodiversity workforce development is vital for the future of skilled trades.This episode delivers practical insights for contractors, educators, and industry experts who want to strengthen advocacy, build inclusive programs, and prepare the next generation of tradespeople.IN THIS EPISODE● (00:02) – The $2.2M cost families face and the gap in autism skilled trades programs.● (07:15) – Danny Combs’ background, Nashville music career, and trades family roots.● (15:40) – The start of Teaching the Autism Community Trades (TACT) and Temple Grandin’s advice.● (26:10) – From a warehouse to a 19,000 sq ft facility with Subaru, Toyota, and more.● (38:25) – Why employment for autistic adults in trades matters for the economy.● (49:50) – Expansion, advocacy, and the future of neurodiversity workforce development.Key Takeaways● Autism skilled trades programs provide real career pathways beyond low-skill jobs.● Employment for autistic adults in trades fills labor shortages in electricians, carpentry, plumbing, HVAC, and more.● Teaching the Autism Community Trades (TACT) leads the way in neurodiversity workforce development.● Electrician training for autistic individuals proves trades careers can be debt-free, high-paying, and fulfilling.About the GuestDanny Combs is the founder of Teaching the Autism Community Trades (TACT), a nonprofit equipping autistic youth and adults with skills in carpentry, HVAC, electrical, welding, and more. Drawing from his music background, trades family legacy, and fatherhood journey, Danny built TACT into a nationally recognized leader in autism skilled trades programs and neurodiversity workforce development, helping create meaningful careers and reshaping the skilled trades industry.Keywords Autism Skilled Trades Programs, Employment for Autistic Adults in Trades, Teaching the Autism Community Trades (TACT), Neurodiversity Workforce Development, Electrician Training for Autistic Individuals, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Contractors, Education, Advocacy, Industry Experts, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, CreativityResourcesLinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danny-combs-m-a-bccs-cas-90987613a/Website: https://www.buildwithtact.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Building High Paying Trade Careers: How Manufacturing Can Make a Comeback in America w/ Roger Atkins

    Careers in manufacturing and skilled trades jobs are booming. Roger Atkins (NTMA) joins Andrew Brown to discuss manufacturing apprenticeship programs, reshoring manufacturing USA, and high paying trade careers.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Roger Atkins, President of the National Tooling & Machining Association (NTMA), to explore how today’s skilled trades jobs are shaping the future of the trades industry. From the growth of manufacturing apprenticeship programs to the nationwide push for reshoring manufacturing USA, they cover how to build high paying trade careers that rival college pathways.Whether you’re just starting out, considering a career change, or advising young people, this episode provides real insights into the future of the skilled trades.IN THIS EPISODE:● (00:00) – Careers in Manufacturing Today: Why trades careers matter more than ever.● (04:32) – Skilled Trades Jobs vs. Service Jobs: The hidden financial difference.● (12:15) – Manufacturing Apprenticeship Programs: Earn while you learn pathways into trades.● (22:40) – Reshoring Manufacturing USA: Why supply chains are shifting back home.● (33:10) – High Paying Trade Careers: From $18/hr apprenticeships to six-figure tradespeople.● (44:55) – The Future of the Trades Industry: AI, technology, and advocacy reshaping the landscape.Key Takeaways● Careers in manufacturing offer advancement and stability far beyond entry-level jobs.● Skilled trades jobs like carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, and millwrights provide lifelong pathways.● Manufacturing apprenticeship programs allow people to train debt-free while earning a wage.● Reshoring manufacturing USA is driving demand for high paying trade careers across small and medium businesses.About the GuestRoger Atkins is the President of the National Tooling & Machining Association (NTMA). With decades in the trades industry, Roger has been a leading advocate for reshoring initiatives, building manufacturing apprenticeship programs, and expanding awareness of skilled trades jobs. His work with the Skilled Trades Advisory Council and industry experts focuses on creating high paying trade careers for future generations of tradespeople, contractors, and career changers.KeywordsCareers in Manufacturing, Skilled Trades Jobs, Manufacturing Apprenticeship Programs, Reshoring Manufacturing USA, High Paying Trade Careers, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Contractors, Industry Experts, Andrew Brown, Roger Atkins, National Tooling & Machining Association, NTMA, Toolfetch, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Advocacy, Education, Trades CareersResource LinksLinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roger-atkins/Website: https://ntma.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    From Nurse to Mechanic: Why Women Belong in the Trades with Desiree Hill

    From nursing to female mechanic, flipping cars for profit, and building Crown's Corner Mechanic.Host Andrew Brown talks with Desiree Hill, known as She Mechanic, about her bold career change to trades—from healthcare to launching Crown’s Corner Mechanic. They explore how women are breaking into skilled trades careers, what it takes to succeed as a female mechanic, and the role of flipping cars for profit in building confidence and skills.This inspiring conversation highlights the future of the trades industry, the importance of mentorship, and how social media is helping more people find their path in plumbing apprenticeships, carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, and construction craftsmanship.IN THIS EPISODE:● (00:00) – Introduction: Andrew Brown on skilled trades careers & industry advocacy● (03:12) – Desiree’s path: Career change to trades from nursing into mechanics● (08:25) – Flipping cars for profit: Building confidence & skills with hands-on learning● (15:40) – Launching Crown’s Corner Mechanic: From driveway projects to a full shop● (24:18) – Women in the trades industry: Female mechanic success stories & plumbing apprenticeships● (36:55) – Lessons in entrepreneurship: Problem-solving, creativity & leadership in skilled trades careersKey Takeaways:● A career change to trades is possible at any age—Desiree Hill proves it with her journey from nursing to becoming a successful female mechanic.● Flipping cars for profit can be a gateway to learning, entrepreneurship, and a long-term role in the skilled trades industry.● Social media is breaking barriers by showcasing women in plumbing apprenticeships, carpentry, HVAC, electricians, and construction trades careers.● Building a personal brand like She Mechanic inspires the next generation of skilled tradespeople and advocates for industry-wide change.About the Guest:Desiree Hill, also known as She Mechanic, is the founder of Crown’s Corner Mechanic. A former healthcare worker turned female mechanic, she built her career by flipping cars for profit and teaching herself mechanical skills. Now a respected advocate in the trades industry, she uses her platform to inspire women and the next generation of skilled trades careers through mentorship, education, and real-world problem-solving.Keywords:Skilled Trades Careers, Career Change to Trades, Female Mechanic, Flipping Cars for Profit, Plumbing Apprenticeship, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Education, Industry Experts, Contractors, Andrew Brown, Desiree Hill, She Mechanic, Crown's Corner Mechanic, Toolfetch, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, CreativityResource Links:TikTok: @SheMechanicInstagram: CrownsCorner_SheMechanicWebsite: Crown's Corner MechanicsSUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    High-Paying Plumbing Trade Careers & Apprenticeship Paths w/ Daniel Quinonez

    Want a high-paying plumbing trade career? Daniel Quinonez joins Andrew Brown to share plumbing apprenticeship programs, PHCC Educational Foundation training, and plumbing job opportunities.Host Andrew Brown talks with Daniel Quinonez, COO of the Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association and leader within the PHCC Educational Foundation, about building successful plumbing trade careers. They break down plumbing apprenticeship programs, the demand for high-paying skilled trades, and how to access the best plumbing job opportunities.From career changers to young apprentices, Daniel shares insider tips on navigating the trades industry, breaking misconceptions about plumbers, and finding your place among tradespeople in plumbing, HVAC, carpentry, and beyond.IN THIS EPISODE:(00:00) – Introduction: Why the trades industry needs more plumbers and how plumbing trade careers are thriving.(05:22) – Plumbing apprenticeship programs explained: pay, timelines, and earning while learning.(12:47) – The PHCC Educational Foundation: training, scholarships, and advocacy for skilled trades.(21:33) – The truth about high-paying skilled trades and entrepreneurship in plumbing, HVAC, and carpentry.(33:15) – Career changers in the trades industry: from corporate jobs to plumbing job opportunities.(45:50) – Why craftsmanship, problem-solving, and creativity define great trades careers.Key Takeaways:● Plumbing trade careers can lead to six-figure incomes without college debt.● Plumbing apprenticeship programs offer hands-on training, certification, and industry connections.● The PHCC Educational Foundation empowers tradespeople with resources and scholarships.● High-paying skilled trades like plumbing, HVAC, and electrical offer stability, growth, and recession-proof work.About the Guest:Daniel Quinonez is the Chief Operating Officer of the Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association and a driving force behind the PHCC Educational Foundation. A veteran advocate for skilled trades education, Daniel works with contractors, industry experts, and the Skilled Trades Advisory Council to expand plumbing apprenticeship programs and create more plumbing job opportunities nationwide. His work spans multiple trades—including plumbing, HVAC, carpentry, and construction—while championing craftsmanship, problem-solving, and the future of the trades industry.Keywords:Plumbing Trade Careers, Plumbing Apprenticeship Programs, PHCC Educational Foundation, High-Paying Skilled Trades, Plumbing Job Opportunities, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Daniel Quinonez, Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Tradespeople, Contractors, Industry Experts, Advocacy, Education, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Trades CareersResources:LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-quinonez-690ba68/Website: https://www.phccweb.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    How Women Are Breaking Into STEM and the Skilled Trades w/ Destiny Simone Adams

    Women in STEM are rising. Meet Destiny Simone Adams, a TikTok STEM creator breaking barriers in robotics competitions and Skilled Trades education.Host Andrew Brown talks with Destiny Simone Adams, a STEM content creator and advocate for Black Girls Who Code, about competing in all-male robotics competitions, building her personal brand on TikTok, and creating inclusive paths in the Skilled Trades for the next generation. From her early start at age 7 to teaching over 1,000 girls to code, Destiny shares how STEM education for girls can unlock careers in construction, HVAC, carpentry, and beyond. This episode brings raw inspiration, real advice, and powerful insights into crafting your own career path, whether you're 17 or 37.IN THIS EPISODE:● (00:02:00) – Breaking into robotics competitions as the only girl competitor● (00:08:30) – How Black Girls Who Code shaped Destiny’s path in women in STEM● (00:14:15) – Starting the first all-girls robotics team in South Fulton● (00:22:00) – Fusing tech + art through wearable electronics and problem-solving● (00:31:45) – Building a personal brand for STEM education for girls on TikTok● (00:44:00) – Advice for young tradespeople entering the Trades IndustryKEY TAKEAWAYS:● Women in STEM need visibility—and Destiny became that example in national robotics competitions.● STEM education for girls is essential to diversify and grow the future Skilled Trades workforce.● Personal branding and authenticity on TikTok can drive awareness and opportunity in the Trades Industry.● Teaching trades-related STEM topics (like mechatronics, electronics, and wearable tech) can bridge gaps in education, craftsmanship, and representation.ABOUT THE GUEST:Destiny Simone Adams (aka @IOTLab616) is a TikTok STEM creator, engineer, artist, and educator. A longtime advocate for STEM education for girls, Destiny is affiliated with organizations like Black Girls Who Code, Women in Technology, and the Skilled Trades Advisory Council. She’s taught over 1,000 girls to code, built viral robotic projects, and uses social media to highlight opportunities in the Skilled Trades, including paths in construction, plumbing, electricians, and carpentry. Destiny is passionate about mentorship, community leadership, and reshaping what the next generation of tradespeople can look like.KEYWORDS:Women in STEM, Robotics Competition, STEM Education for Girls, Black Girls Who Code, Skilled Trades Podcast, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Destiny Adams, Destiny Simone Adams, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Advocacy, Contractors, Industry Experts, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Education, Problem-solving, CreativityRESOURCES:TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iotlab616Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/destinyadamsinternational/?hl=en SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Why Gen Z Is Choosing Trades Over College w/ Mark Hedstrom (SkillsUSA)

    Skilled trades shortage is a growing crisis. Mark Hedstrom joins Andrew Brown to discuss workforce gaps, SkillsUSA, and trade school vs college realities.The skilled trades shortage is no longer coming. It’s here. In this episode, Host Andrew Brown speaks with Mark Hedstrom, Executive Director of the Skilled Careers Coalition, live from the floor of the SkillsUSA competition in Atlanta. Together, they break down what students, parents, employers, and educators need to know to build a stronger trades workforce.From trade school vs college decisions to why soft skills training is critical for long-term success, Mark shares urgent insights on how to solve the talent pipeline problem in skilled trades careers like HVAC, plumbing, carpentry, electrical, and millwrighting. This is essential listening for anyone invested in the future of the trades industry.Whether you're a student, contractor, educator, or policymaker, this episode is packed with insight from two leading voices in the trades industry. IN THIS EPISODE:● (00:51) – SkillsUSA Competition: 6,000 students preparing for skilled trades careers● (05:42) – Why the skilled trades shortage is bigger than most people think● (12:35) – Trade School vs College: Which has better ROI in today’s economy?● (21:08) – Soft skills training: The hidden key to success in the trades● (30:14) – Social media’s power in trades recruitment and storytelling● (43:49) – Mentorship, placement, and what employers must do differently Key Takeaways:● The skilled trades shortage is projected to leave hundreds of thousands of roles unfilled in plumbing, construction, and manufacturing.● Students need help navigating trade school vs college pathways—with clearer ROI comparisons and better exposure to career outcomes.● Soft skills training is often the differentiator between a good hire and a great future leader in the trades.● Employers should recruit directly from events like the SkillsUSA competition to meet top-tier young talent ready for careers in the trades industry.About the Guest:Mark Hedstrom is the Executive Director of the Steel Careers Coalition, an initiative committed to solving the skilled trades shortage through national partnerships, career exploration tools, and storytelling platforms like Skills Jam. With a background in nonprofit leadership and public health, Mark is an advocate for skilled trades careers, intergenerational mentorship, and better workforce development across education, construction, and manufacturing sectors.Keywords :Skilled Trades Careers, SkillsUSA Competition, Soft Skills Training, Trade School vs College, Skilled Trades Shortage, Andrew Brown, Mark Hedstrom, Steel Careers Coalition, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Carpentry, HVAC, Construction, Contractors, Tradespeople, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Toolfetch, Craftsmanship, Creativity, Problem-solving, Education, Advocacy, Industry Experts, Mentorship, Social Media in TradesResources :Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhedstrom/Website: https://skilledcareers.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    RV Technician Career Path, Training, Salary with Curtis Hemmeler on Skilled Trades Careers

    Discover how to become an RV tech and why this skilled trade is booming in 2025 and beyond.Andrew Brown sits down with Curtis Hemmeler from the RV Technical Institute to explore the RV technician career path, certification options, wages, and why this trade offers long-term opportunity for career changers, high schoolers, and women entering the trades.With over 8 million RVs on the road and fewer than 1,000 certified dealerships, there’s an urgent need for skilled workers. Curtis explains the RV technician career path, how it compares to traditional trades like HVAC, plumbing, and electricians, and why it’s a high-paying, sustainable option for anyone exploring trades careers—from high schoolers to career changers. Whether you’re passionate about craftsmanship, problem-solving, or exploring new industries, this is a must-listen.IN THIS EPISODE:(00:00) – Introduction to the RV industry & the tech shortage(04:00) – The RV technician career path: Level 1 to Master Tech(11:30) – Women in skilled trades & RVWA(20:45) – How much do RV techs make? Salary breakdowns(33:00) – Mobile tech vs. dealership work(42:00) – Changing the narrative: PR problems in the skilled trades Key Takeaways:The RV technician career path offers multiple levels of certification, starting with just 40 hours of training and potential earnings of $45K to $100K+ per year.There are fewer than 1,000 certified dealerships to service over 8 million RVs creating massive demand for certified technicians.Women, career changers, and even those with zero experience can find fulfilling careers through RV Technical Institute training.The trades industry whether carpentry, millwrights, construction, or RV techs—is rooted in problem-solving, creativity, and long-term sustainability, with increasing emphasis on advocacy and public awareness.About the Guest:Curtis Hemmeler is the Executive Director of the RV Technical Institute, a $10M nonprofit school created by the RV industry to solve the shortage of certified technicians. With over 22,000 people having completed or started training under his leadership, Curtis is leading the charge in modernizing technical training, advocating for tradespeople, and promoting trades careers as a respectable, high-income, and sustainable path. He’s a veteran, educator, and passionate voice in the skilled trades movement.Keywords:RV technician career path, RV Technical Institute training, How to become an RV tech, RV technician salary 2025, Women in skilled trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Curtis Hemmeler, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResource Links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/curt-hemmeler/Website: https://www.rvti.org/

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    Josh Nieves on Electrician Careers, Union Access & Trades Mentorship

    From sweeping floors to leading crews on the Freedom Tower, Josh Nieves shares his powerful journey through the IBEW apprenticeship program and into the heart of the skilled trades. This episode dives into union vs non-union paths, electrician salary progression, and how mentorship can change everythingAndrew Brown sits down with Josh Nieves, IBEW electrician and Workforce Development Manager at Miller Electric, to unpack the real story behind building a fulfilling skilled trades career. From navigating union apprenticeship programs to the difference between an installer vs. electrician, Josh offers insight for both aspiring tradespeople and industry veterans. Whether you’re trying to get into the IBEW, debating union vs non-union pathways, or exploring your long-term earning potential as an electrician, this conversation delivers real, no-fluff advice from someone who’s walked the path—and is now paying it forward. IN THIS EPISODE:(00:01:00) - The national shortage of 80,000 electricians annually(00:05:00) - How to get into the IBEW apprenticeship program(00:10:30) - Electrician salary progression and earning six figures(00:20:00) - Josh’s 9/11 story and how it shaped his trades career(00:31:00) - The leap from journeyman to master electrician(00:47:00) - Why mentorship, culture, and advocacy are vital in the trades industry. Key Takeaways:There are multiple ways to enter the trades industry, including through open shop work and IBEW union programs don’t give up if you’re denied the first time.Electrician salary progression is real starting at ~$20/hour, but growing rapidly into six figures with overtime, experience, and credentials.The skilled trades industry needs better mentorship, not just training, to help new tradespeople succeed long-term.Culture and leadership matter Josh shares how great companies create supportive environments that retain top talent.About the Guest:Josh Nieves is a master electrician, entrepreneur, and the Workforce Development Manager at Miller Electric. With nearly two decades in the trades industry, Josh has worked on landmark projects including the Freedom Tower, Brooklyn Bridge, and Empire State Building. A proud member of IBEW Local 3, Josh is now on a mission to grow the next generation of electricians through education, mentorship, and public trades advocacy.Keywords:IBEW apprenticeship program, how to become an electrician, electrician union vs non-union, skilled trades career path, electrician salary progression, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Josh Nieves, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council Resource Links:Website: https://www.mecojax.com/ LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshnieves/ SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Skilled Trades Summer Camps: How Angie Simon is Creating Careers in the Trades for Youth

    Skilled trades summer camps are transforming lives. Angie Simon joins Andrew Brown to talk trades careers, apprenticeships, and women in construction programs.Host Andrew Brown speaks with Angie Simon, founder of the Heavy Metal Summer Experience, about how skilled trades summer camps are creating real careers in the trades for youth. From women in construction programs to sheet metal apprenticeship opportunities, this episode explores how hands-on camps are reshaping the future of the trades industry by giving teens, especially those from underserved communities, an exciting trade school alternative to college.You’ll hear success stories, insider insights, and the practical tools these camps offer: free boots, tools, real trade skills (welding, plumbing, electrical), and mentorship from industry professionals.Whether you're a parent, a contractor, or someone passionate about trades careers, this episode gives you a clear look at what’s working—and how you can be part of the change. IN THIS EPISODE:● (02:10) – How 65% of sheet metal contractors started in the trades● (08:35) – What skilled trades summer camps look like day-to-day● (14:20) – The growing impact of women in construction programs● (20:05) – Trade school alternatives to college and why they matter● (27:50) – Why sheet metal apprenticeship opportunities are booming● (34:30) – How camps are changing the future of the skilled trades industry Key Takeaways:● Skilled trades summer camps are opening doors to high-paying, hands-on careers for teens.● More women in construction programs are succeeding—especially in welding and fabrication.● These camps are effective trade school alternatives to college for at-risk youth.● Sheet metal apprenticeship opportunities are in demand and can lead to business ownership. About the Guest:Angie Simon is a pioneering figure in the trades industry and co-founder of the Heavy Metal Summer Experience. With over 35 years in construction, including 15 years as president of a major mechanical contracting firm, she launched this nonprofit to grow the next generation of tradespeople. Her summer camps introduce youth to carpentry, HVAC, plumbing, electrical, and sheet metal trades, while also leading initiatives for women in construction programs and creating trade school alternatives to college for underserved communities.Keywords Skilled Trades Summer Camps, Careers in the Trades for Youth, Women in Construction Programs, Sheet Metal Apprenticeship Opportunities, Trade School Alternatives to College, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Contractors, Industry Experts, Education, Advocacy, Tradespeople, Problem-solving, Creativity, Andrew Brown, Angie Simon, Heavy Metal Summer Experience, Toolfetch, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship Resource Links: Website: https://www.hmse.org/LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angie-simon-pe-666744/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Roger Wakefield: How to Succeed in the Trades Industry

    Roger Wakefield—plumbing legend and trades influencer—shares how to become a plumber, grow your brand, and start a successful plumbing business.Host Andrew Brown sits down one of the most recognized names in the trades industry, Roger Wakefield, to break down how to become a plumber, succeed as an apprentice, and build a powerful personal brand as a trades professional. With millions of views on YouTube and decades of hands-on experience, Roger shares what it really takes to thrive in the skilled trades: from plumbing apprenticeship tips to starting a plumbing business that stands out.Whether you're just entering the trades or looking to scale your own company, this conversation delivers real-world, no-fluff skilled trades career advice from a leader who's done it all and taught thousands to do the same.IN THIS EPISODE:● (00:02:10) – How to Become a Plumber: Roger’s first job with zero plumbing experience● (00:08:45) – Personal Branding for Tradespeople: Why it’s no longer optional● (00:19:20) – Plumbing Apprenticeship Tips: Interview tactics that get you hired● (00:33:10) – Starting a Plumbing Business: Data-driven marketing and strategy● (00:47:35) – Career Growth in the Trades: From apprentice to owner● (01:01:00) – Human Skills > Hard Skills: Why soft skills drive trades careersKey Takeaways:● You can start your plumbing career with no experience—how to become a plumber is more about mindset than credentials.● Personal branding for tradespeople builds trust, visibility, and long-term opportunity in the skilled trades industry.● Use these plumbing apprenticeship tips to stand out in interviews and get hired fast.● If you're starting a plumbing business, you need to understand pricing, strategy, and your KPIs—or risk failing early.About the Guest:Roger Wakefield is a licensed plumber, YouTube creator, keynote speaker, and fierce advocate for trades careers. With over 45 years in the trades industry, he’s helped thousands understand how to become a plumber, launch a plumbing business, and leverage personal branding for tradespeople to grow their reputation and revenue. His content has made a global impact, proving that being a plumber today means much more than just turning wrenches.Keywords:How to Become a Plumber, Plumbing Apprenticeship Tips, Skilled Trades Career Advice, Personal Branding for Tradespeople, Starting a Plumbing Business, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Roger Wakefield, Andrew Brown, Toolfetch, HVAC, Carpentry, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResources:LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogerwakefield/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGIMKh92vaL0_Yc0u4GYhHAWebsite: https://rogerwakefield.com/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    When to Replace Your Roof and How to Scale a Roofing Business with Trenton Wisecup

    Roof replacement signs, scaling a roofing business, and how to recruit skilled labor-- Trenton Wisecup joins Andrew Brown to unpack all this and more.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Trenton Wisecup, founder of Arrow Roofing and Empower Me Consulting, to dive into the reality of scaling a roofing business in today’s skilled trades industry. They explore how to identify roof replacement signs before it's too late, implement effective AI tools for contractors, and make the transition from trades to business owner.Trenton also shares his no-BS perspective on how to recruit skilled labor, what separates winning businesses from outdated ones, and the mindset needed to thrive as a modern contractor or entrepreneur. If you're in roofing, HVAC, carpentry, plumbing, electrical work, or construction, this is a must-listen.IN THIS EPISODE:(00:02:10) – Roof Replacement Signs: Why homeowners wait too long and how to spot early warning signs(00:14:25) – Scaling a Roofing Business: From door-knocking to building an eight-figure culture(00:24:05) – Transition from Trades to Business Owner: What every skilled worker should know(00:34:50) – AI Tools for Contractors: Real-world examples that boost leads, sales, and efficiency(00:48:15) – How to Recruit Skilled Labor: Why leadership—not labor shortages—is the real problem(00:58:30) – Leading Without Emotion: Why neutrality is your secret weapon in businessKey Takeaways:● Roof replacement signs often go unnoticed—by the time it leaks, it’s already too late.● Scaling a roofing business requires systemized leadership, not just hard work.● AI tools for contractors can double your output and halve your overhead.● How to recruit skilled labor starts with building a culture people want to stay in.About the Guest:Trenton Wisecup is the founder of Arrow Roofing and Empower Me Consulting. After starting with just six installs in year one, he’s now helping contractors and business owners across the U.S. master the systems behind scaling a roofing business, using AI tools for contractors, and making the transition from trades to business owner. He’s passionate about mentorship, modern leadership, and building businesses that actually work—for owners and their crews alike.Keywords:Roof Replacement Signs, Scaling a Roofing Business, AI Tools for Contractors, Transition from Trades to Business Owner, How to Recruit Skilled Labor, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Trenton Wisecup, Arrow Roofing, Toolfetch, Contractors, Electricians, HVAC, Plumbers, Carpentry, Construction, Millwrights, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Industry Experts, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Advocacy, EducationResources:Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trenton-wisecup-9a86b6235/Website: https://arrowroofingservicesllc.com/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Trade School vs. College: How to Start a High-Paying Skilled Trades Career with Ryan Eisenhauer

    Skilled trades career paths offer high paying jobs without a degree. Ryan Eisenhauer joins Andrew Brown to break down trade school vs college, apprenticeships, and mentorship.Host Andrew Brown sits down with Ryan Eisenhauer, aka Ike from Construction Mentor, to talk about skilled trades career paths, the reality of apprenticeship opportunities in construction, and how to succeed with or without a college degree. They explore how tradespeople build wealth, why soft skills in the trades matter just as much as craftsmanship, and the truth behind high paying trade jobs without a degree.From growing up in a union pipefitter household to managing national projects as a director at a top 10 general contractor, Ryan shares what it's really like to climb the ladder in the construction industry. He breaks down why mentorship in the trades is broken, how to earn it anyway, and why apprenticeship opportunities in construction are more about effort and mindset than resumes. Whether you’re aiming for high paying trade jobs without a degree or just exploring alternatives to college, this episode delivers unfiltered guidance from someone who's walked every rung of the skilled trades ladder. IN THIS EPISODE:● (00:03) – The scars of the industry: What newcomers need to unlearn● (07:55) – Plumbers save more lives than doctors? Yes, and here's why● (17:12) – Trade School vs College: The cost, return, and career growth● (28:44) – Soft Skills in the Trades: What makes or breaks an apprentice● (41:33) – Breaking in: Apprenticeship Opportunities in Construction● (51:00) – High Paying Trade Jobs Without a Degree: Real-world earning powerKey Takeaways:● Skilled trades career paths offer financial freedom, ownership opportunities, and real respect, if you’re willing to show up and stay hungry.● Trade school vs college is a decision with long-term consequences. For many, trades offer a better ROI and less debt.● Soft skills in the trades like punctuality, presentation, and curiosity are essential for earning mentorship and promotions.● Apprenticeship opportunities in construction are competitive. Success depends on persistence, humility, and standing out with your effort.About the Guest:Ryan Eisenhauer, also known as Ike from Construction Mentor, is a seasoned construction executive and trades advocate. After starting his career digging holes and working on job sites, he rose to become a director at a top 10 general contractor. Through Construction Mentor, he offers real talk, real tactics, and real mentorship to people breaking into the skilled trades industry. Whether you’re eyeing a career in carpentry, HVAC, plumbing, electrical, or construction management, Ryan’s mission is to change the narrative and build up the next generation of tradespeople.Keywords:Skilled Trades Career Paths, Trade School vs College, Apprenticeship Opportunities in Construction, Soft Skills in the Trades, High Paying Trade Jobs Without a DegreeSkilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Ryan Eisenhauer, Construction Mentor, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilRESOURCES:LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-eisenhauer-032625289/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_construction_mentor/?hl=enWebsite: https://constructionmentor.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Marcus Sheridan’s Guide to Building a Skilled Trades Brand That Stands Out

    Want more leads in the trades? Marcus Sheridan joins host Andrew Brown to talk self-service tools, pricing estimators, and trusted brand building strategies.Host Andrew Brown sits down with marketing expert, speaker, and former pool contractor Marcus Sheridan to break down what it really takes to build a trusted brand in the skilled trades today.They cover everything from using AI in the trades industry to designing self-service sales tools that boost conversions. If you’re in carpentry, plumbing, HVAC, electrical, or any other blue collar business, this episode is a roadmap to standing out—and staying relevant—in a rapidly changing world.Whether you're a new contractor or a seasoned tradesperson looking to grow your brand, you’ll walk away with clear, tactical advice you can use right now.IN THIS EPISODE:● (02:10) – “Just a Pool Guy”: Why the trades get overlooked—and how Marcus flipped the script.● (11:45) – AI in the Trades: Why blue collar work isn’t going anywhere—and how AI helps, not hurts.● (23:30) – Pricing Estimator Tools: Why every contractor website needs one (and how it converts).● (35:55) – The 4 Pillars of Brand Trust: Say, show, sell, and be human.● (43:40) – Self-Service Sales Tools: How to let customers educate themselves (and love you for it).● (51:20) – Building a Personal Brand: Why people follow you before they follow your business.KEY TAKEAWAYS:● A trusted brand in the trades starts with saying what others won’t—and showing how you do it.● Self-service sales tools increase lead volume and improve customer experience.● AI in the trades industry isn’t replacing you—it’s giving you time back.● A simple pricing estimator for contractors can triple your conversions with the same traffic.ABOUT THE GUEST:Marcus Sheridan is the author of They Ask, You Answer and The Visual Sale, and a partner at Impact, a marketing and sales consultancy. He’s also the co-founder of River Pools, once a small local pool company that became the most trafficked swimming pool website in the world. A longtime advocate for trusted brand building, Marcus now helps contractors and tradespeople scale their companies using video, content marketing, and disruptive strategies rooted in transparency.KEYWORDS:Trusted Brand Building, Self-Service Sales Tools, Pricing Estimator for Contractors, AI in Trades Industry, Blue Collar Business MarketingSkilled Trades, Trades Industry, Marcus Sheridan, Andrew Brown, Impact, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Contractors, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, AdvocacyRESOURCES: LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcussheridan/Website: https://marcussheridan.com/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    How to Get Into the Trades as a Woman: Apprenticeships, Representation & Skilled Trades Careers w/ Judaline Cassidy

    Want to join the skilled trades as a woman? Judaline Cassidy shares how to start, find support, and thrive in a trades career, from plumbing to advocacy.Host Andrew Brown sits down with master plumber and trades advocate Judaline Cassidy, founder of Tools and Tiaras, to talk about how women can break into the skilled trades. They dive into the reality of being a female plumber, how trades careers for girls are growing, the power of social media, and how to navigate the path through skilled trades apprenticeships.If you're looking to join a fulfilling career in construction, carpentry, HVAC, or plumbing, this episode offers real stories and tactical advice from someone who’s lived it.IN THIS EPISODE:● (00:03:15) – How Judaline broke into plumbing and proved herself on the jobsite● (00:08:47) – Why she picked plumbing over electrical and never looked back● (00:17:33) – Social media’s role in promoting women in skilled trades● (00:24:50) – How the Tools and Tiaras program empowers girls to explore trades careers● (00:35:20) – The challenges of being a female plumber on commercial job sites● (00:49:10) – What girls need to know before starting a skilled trades apprenticeshipKey Takeaways:● Seeing a female plumber in action can shift a young girl’s entire career path.● The Tools and Tiaras program introduces trades careers to girls through hands-on learning.● Union-based skilled trades apprenticeships offer equal pay, benefits, and career longevity.● Women in skilled trades must prove themselves repeatedly, but change is happening.About the Guest:Judaline Cassidy is a union plumber, public speaker, and founder of Tools and Tiaras, a nonprofit that introduces young girls to the trades industry through monthly workshops and summer camps. A longtime advocate for women in skilled trades, Judaline’s mission is to empower girls with tools and the confidence to use them. Her story spans countries, decades, and ceilings shattered, all with a wrench in hand.Keywords :Women in Skilled Trades, Female Plumbers, Trades Career for Girls, Tools and Tiaras Program, Skilled Trades ApprenticeshipSkilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Judaline Cassidy, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResource Links:Keywords :Website: https://www.judaline.com/LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/judaline-cassidy-b1570021/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    How to Start a Welding Career: Trade School vs Apprenticeship Paths + Career Growth Insights w/ Bill Myers

    Skilled trades careers are booming, from trade school welding programs to women in skilled trades. William Myers of Ancora Education shares why now's the time.Host Andrew Brown sits down with welding educator and skilled trades advocate Bill Myers of Ancora Education to explore how to launch a welding career in today’s trades industry. They dive into the structure of trade school welding programs, how the NCCER Career Builder helps students choose a path, and what it really takes to land high-paying welding career opportunities—whether you’re just starting out or returning to the trades later in life.Whether you're considering trade school, apprenticeship, or just want honest insight into skilled trades careers, this episode delivers straight talk from an industry veteran who’s been there.IN THIS EPISODE(00:02) – The Rise of Skilled Trades Careers in 2025(06:41) – How Trade School Welding Programs Are Structured(15:24) – Breaking Down the NCCER Career Builder Tool(24:10) – The Role of Women in Skilled Trades Today(36:52) – Welding Career Opportunities After Graduation(48:33) – Why Soft Skills Matter as Much as Craftsmanship KEY TAKEAWAYSSkilled trades careers are not just viable—they're thriving. Students can now enter trades like carpentry, plumbing, HVAC, and electricians roles with real support and structure.Trade school welding programs offer an accelerated path (as short as 10 months) into high-paying welding career opportunities in industries like construction and aerospace.Tools like the NCCER Career Builder are game changers in helping prospective students match with the right path in the skilled trades industry—and it's available in high school.Women in skilled trades are gaining visibility and mentorship, especially through platforms like TikTok and YouTube, helping shift outdated narratives in the trades industry.ABOUT THE GUESTBill Myers (also known as William Myers) is the National Director of Skilled Trades at Ancora Education. With decades of experience as a welder, fabricator, and educator, Bill has shaped modern training standards across trade programs. He's also an active voice on the Skilled Trades Advisory Council, focusing on education, craftsmanship, and career advocacy for tradespeople.KEYWORDSSkilled trades careers, Trade school welding programs, Women in skilled trades, Welding career opportunities, NCCER Career Builder, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Education, Apprenticeships, Career Growth, Industry Experts, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Andrew Brown, Bill Myers, William Myers, Ancora Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Toolfetch, Welding, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Contractors, Tradespeople, AdvocacyRESOURCE LINKSLinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-myers-907503281/Ancora Education: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ancora-education/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    How Ferguson Is Tackling the Skilled Trades Gap: Building Future Plumbers, HVAC Techs & Electricians w/ Melissa Hazelwood

    Ferguson is investing big in skilled trades education. Melissa Hazelwood joins host Andrew Brown to reveal how they're building trades labs for plumbing, HVAC & more.Join host Andrew Brown on The Lost Art of the Skilled Trades as he talks with Melissa Hazelwood, Director of Community Relations at Ferguson, about how one of America’s top plumbing and HVAC distributors is helping solve the trades labor crisis. From building hands-on training labs with Explore the Trades to investing in K-12 career awareness, Ferguson is reshaping how young people discover and enter high-paying trade careers.Discover why early exposure matters, how Ferguson’s Skills Lab program works, and how companies can step up to support trades education in their own communities.In This Episode:(02:15) — Why early exposure to the trades matters(07:40) — Spotlight on “Castle Jarrett” and student engagement(14:30) — Inside the Ferguson Skills Lab initiative and its national reach(23:10) — The role of parents, guidance counselors, and social perception(32:45) — Women in construction: tools, tiaras, and trade camps(41:00) — Advice for companies wanting to support skilled trades education programs Key Takeaways:Trade careers for kids should be introduced early through hands-on play, mentorship, and relatable role models.The Ferguson Skills Lab initiative is a groundbreaking example of private industry investing in skilled trades education programs.Explore the Trades partnerships help connect contractors, schools, and community leaders to offer scalable, real-world training.Programs like women in construction training camps are essential to diversify the trades and empower the next generation of builders and problem-solvers.About the Guest:Melissa Hazelwood is the Director of Social Impact at Ferguson, where she leads initiatives that support skilled trades education programs through national partnerships like the Explore the Trades partnership. She plays a key role in the Ferguson Skills Lab initiative, which has already reached thousands of students across the U.S. Her work bridges industry expertise and community service, ensuring that trade careers for kids remain a visible and viable path—especially through her support of women in construction training camps and other inclusive outreach programs.Melissa shares how Ferguson's community-first mindset and collaboration with organizations like Explore the Trades are creating real social impact in the trades industry. Whether you're a parent, contractor, educator, or just passionate about craftsmanship, this episode is filled with insights on the future of trades careers and how we can all play a role in supporting the next generation of tradespeople.Keywords:Skilled trades education programs, Trade careers for kids, Ferguson Skills Lab initiative, Explore the Trades partnership, Women in construction training camps, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Melissa Hazelwood, Social Impact, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResource Links:LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkhazelwood/Ferguson website: https://www.corporate.ferguson.com/esg/story-hub/news-details/2024/Building-the-future/default.aspxSUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    This Old House Host Kevin O’Connor on Why the Trades Still Matter

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with This Old House host Kevin O’Connor to explore the state of the skilled trades career path in today’s economy. They dive deep into the construction labor shortage, discuss real-world apprenticeship opportunities, and reflect on the impact of places like Williamson College of the Trades.They also confront outdated assumptions around the trade school vs college debate — and what needs to happen for the next generation to see the skilled trades not as a fallback, but as a first choice.IN THIS EPISODE:[00:01] – Kevin’s path from finance to This Old House[08:45] – How trades-focused TV really gets made[18:22] – Inside Williamson College of the Trades[31:40] – Trade school vs college: fixing the PR problem[45:10] – Addressing the construction labor shortage[59:00] – Building better apprenticeship opportunitiesKEY TAKEAWAYS:Williamson College of the Trades is a tuition-free trade school creating career-ready graduates with multiple job offers, and no debt.The construction labor shortage is real, but solvable if we invest in training, technology, and awareness.Apprenticeship opportunities are the fastest, most effective way to launch a skilled trades career path and companies should promote them.The trade school vs college decision should be based on ROI and lifestyle, not outdated assumptions or prestige. ABOUT THE GUEST:Kevin O’Connor is the host of This Old House, a legendary PBS series now in its fifth decade. With roots in finance and family construction, Kevin brings a unique lens to the skilled trades industry, combining storytelling with advocacy. He’s a champion for institutions like Williamson College of the Trades and a vocal supporter of closing the construction labor shortage through smarter training and increased apprenticeship opportunities. KEYWORDS:Skilled trades career path, construction labor shortage, apprenticeship opportunities, Williamson College of the Trades, trade school vs college, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Kevin Oconnor, This Old House, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council RESOURCE LINKS:Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinoconnortoh/Website: https://officialkevinoconnor.com/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    How to Become an Electrician: Union vs Non-Union Journeys + Apprenticeship Insights w/ Jon Lock

    Want to become an electrician? Jon Lock joins host Andrew Brown to break down the electrician apprenticeship program, union vs non-union routes, and licensing.Whether you're curious about how to become an electrician, preparing for your electrical journeyman license requirements, or simply passionate about the future of the trades industry, this episode is packed with practical advice, honest reflection, and expert insights from someone who’s lived it.IN THIS EPISODE:(00:01) – The reality of starting out in the trades: Jon talks about attitude, attendance, and being coachable when entering an electrician apprenticeship program.(08:42) – Union vs Non-Union: The insider’s take: What to expect from union vs non-union electrician routes, pay differences, and access to tools and training.(15:36) – Getting into the trades without knowing anyone: Jon shares how he got into the skilled trades career path without prior connections—and how YouTube played a role.(22:14) – The wages, the timeline, and what to expect: Breaking down the electrical journeyman license requirements and the pay scale from apprentice to journeyman.(30:50) – Failing the test—then passing it: Jon opens up about failing the licensing exam twice and how he finally earned his license.(39:05) – Advice for new tradespeople: His top 3 qualities for apprentice success—and how to stand out in today’s trades industry. Key Takeaways:Electrician apprenticeship programs are highly competitive—especially in the union system—so showing up, staying humble, and learning fast are key.Understanding the pros and cons of union vs non-union electrician jobs can change your entire career trajectory.The skilled trades career path offers solid pay, pride in your work, and long-term job security—but only if you're willing to put in the time.To meet electrical journeyman license requirements, apprentices need 8,000 hours of work and often several attempts at the licensing test—persistence pays off.About the Guest:Jon Lock is a licensed electrician and content creator behind Daily Electrician, where he shares the day-to-day realities of the trade on YouTube and Instagram. With experience in both commercial and residential electrical work, Jon speaks from the front lines of the skilled trades industry—offering advice, mentorship, and career insight for those exploring how to become an electrician. He's passionate about craftsmanship, lifelong learning, and helping the next generation navigate their skilled trades career path.Keywords:electrician apprenticeship program, union vs non-union electrician, how to become an electrician, skilled trades career path, electrical journeyman license requirements, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Jon Lock, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResource Links:YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DailyElectricianInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/DailyElectricianYTSUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Building a Skilled Trade Business in Today's Market with Brian Hamilton

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with serial entrepreneur and LiveSwitch founder Brian Hamilton to unpack what it really takes to succeed when starting a trades business. Brian shares real stories—from mentoring an ex-inmate contractor to lessons learned from running multi-million dollar tech and service companies. This episode is packed with contractor business advice, deep reflections on skilled trades entrepreneurship, and no-nonsense talk about pricing for tradespeople and providing exceptional trade business customer service. Whether you're a plumber, electrician, carpenter, or HVAC tech, this one’s for you.In This Episode:(00:03:30) – Brian Hamilton’s background and why the trades are the backbone of the economy(00:10:20) – The leap from skilled worker to business owner(00:18:45) – What new contractors get wrong about pricing and customers(00:30:00) – Real-world examples of success—and failure—when starting a trades business(00:42:15) – Why mentorship and education are key to skilled trades entrepreneurship(00:54:10) – How LiveSwitch helps contractors improve trade business customer serviceKey Takeaways:The trades are a mission, not just a job. Passion for craftsmanship and problem-solving is what separates great tradespeople from good ones.You need more than skills—you need systems. Running a business takes financial literacy, contractor business advice, and self-discipline.Customer service is your brand. Showing up on time and doing what you say you will do is the heart of effective trade business customer service.Start small, price smart. When starting a trades business, don't be afraid to take smaller jobs with the right margin—master pricing for tradespeople early.About the Guest:Brian Hamilton is the founder of LiveSwitch and Inmates to Entrepreneurs, with a decades-long career spanning tech startups and skilled trades entrepreneurship. A passionate advocate for contractors, tradespeople, and second chances, Brian helps aspiring entrepreneurs turn grit into growth using actionable, real-world insights. His mission? Empower people through small business ownership, especially in the trades industry. Keywords :starting a trades business, skilled trades entrepreneurship, contractor business advice, pricing for tradespeople, trade business customer service, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Brian Hamilton, LiveSwitch, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council Resources :Website: https://www.liveswitch.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brianhamiltonncX:  https://x.com/brianhamiltonncSUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    From Kansas to the World Stage: A Diesel Tech’s success at WorldSkillsUSA

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with Cale Mouser, a standout figure in the world of Skilled Trades Careers and Diesel Technician Training. From his humble beginnings as a mechanic in Kansas to competing on the global stage at WorldSkills Competition USA, Cale shares his inspiring path through technical college programs, international recognition, and the powerful role of industry support for trades. Whether you're an aspiring tradesperson, contractor, educator, or advocate, this episode offers invaluable insights into the trades industry and what it takes to build a successful future in skilled trades.IN THIS EPISODE:(01:45) – Cale’s early days in Kansas and entry into the trades(04:30) – The support from Caterpillar, Volvo, and other manufacturers(08:10) – What it’s like competing at WorldSkills Competition USA(12:50) – The value of technical college programs in the trades(18:20) – Career growth potential in diesel technician training(24:15) – Cale’s transition from competitor to instructorKey Takeaways:Industry support for trades can open doors to elite training and career advancement.Diesel technician training is a gateway to fulfilling and high-earning careers in the skilled trades.Events like WorldSkills Competition USA elevate the perception of trades careers globally.Technical college programs provide practical, hands-on education that leads directly to the workforce.About the Guest:Cale Mouser is a diesel technician turned educator who competed in WorldSkills Competition USA, representing the best in Skilled Trades Careers. A graduate of North Dakota State College of Science, Cale now teaches the next generation of tradespeople and serves as a passionate advocate for technical education and industry support for trades.Keywords:Skilled trades careers, Diesel technician training, WorldSkills competition USA, Technical college programs, Industry support for trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Cale Mouser, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mouser_motorsports/WorldSkills USA profile: https://worldskillsusa.org/team/cale-mouser/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    Mechanic to Media Mogul: A skilled trades journey with Ryan R. Sullivan

    Host Andrew Brown welcomes Ryan Sullivan, founder of The Ryan Sullivan Show and Podcast Principles. They dive into Ryan’s journey from working as a mechanic to becoming a podcast strategist and entrepreneur. Ryan shares how the skilled trades industry shaped his work ethic and creativity, and how tradespeople can harness the power of podcasting and branding to elevate their blue collar businesses. Whether you're interested in skilled trades careers, starting a trades podcast, or making the leap from mechanic to business owner, this episode delivers valuable insights for both trades professionals and industry advocates.IN THIS EPISODE:[00:03] – Discovering entrepreneurship through skilled trades careers[09:21] – Ryan's first job at a generational auto shop[18:14] – From mechanic to business owner: turning shop skills into a brand[25:35]– The importance of trades business branding in the digital age[32:42]– How starting a trades podcast can open doors[44:10]– Using podcasting for advocacy and trades industry storytellingKey Takeaways:Skilled trades careers can be the gateway to lifelong learning, entrepreneurship, and personal growth.You don’t need a degree to build a fulfilling career—blue collar entrepreneurship is thriving more than ever.Starting a trades podcast is one of the most effective ways to grow your network, build trust, and tell your story.Strong trades business branding helps contractors, plumbers, electricians, and other tradespeople stand out in a noisy online world.About the Guest:Ryan Sullivan is the founder of Podcast Principles and host of The Ryan Sullivan Show. With a background as an auto mechanic and DJ, Ryan eventually transitioned into media production, building a thriving business helping clients start and grow their podcasts. His passion for Skilled Trades, storytelling, and entrepreneurship continues to drive his mission of elevating tradespeople and empowering them to use their voice in the digital age. Keywords:Skilled trades careers, starting a trades podcast, blue collar entrepreneurship, trades business branding, from mechanic to business owner, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Ryan Sullivan, The Ryan Sullivan Show, Podcast Principles, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council Resource Links:Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sullybop/Website: https://www.podcastprinciples.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ryanrsullivan SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    From VR Training to Real-World Success in the Skilled Trades with Bharani Rajakumar

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with Bharani Rajakumar, CEO of Transfr, to explore the future of the skilled trades industry through the lens of virtual reality job training and trade school alternatives. From transformative success stories to the power of career exploration without a four-year degree, this conversation highlights real opportunities in skilled trades careers—including for women in the trades. Discover how technology is revolutionizing how we train, inspire, and build the next generation of craftsmen, contractors, and tradespeople.In this Episode:(02:05) - The powerful story of a former inmate who used VR job training to launch a manufacturing career(08:30) - Why traditional education fails to highlight skilled trades careers as viable options(13:55) - What Transfr is doing to change the game in career training using VR(21:12) - The rise of women in the trades and why it matters more than ever(27:40) - How career exploration through VR is shaping trade school alternatives(35:00) Why the future of the trades industry includes entrepreneurship, ownership, and upward mobility without collegeKey Takeaways:Virtual reality job training allows learners to safely explore multiple trades before committing to a specific path—empowering more informed decisions.Skilled trades careers offer early access to high-paying, fulfilling work—without student debt or a four-year degree.There’s a growing movement of women in the trades, proving that career success in HVAC, carpentry, welding, and electrical work is not gender-bound.Through trade school alternatives like Transfr’s VR training, learners gain hands-on experience and real-world confidence that translate directly into jobs.About the Guest:Bharani Rajakumar is the founder and CEO of Transfr, a company using cutting-edge virtual reality job training to build career exploration tools for the skilled trades industry. With a mission rooted in upward mobility without college, Bharani is a thought leader in developing trade school alternatives that prepare learners of all ages—including women in the trades—for successful careers in construction, HVAC, welding, and more.Keywords:Skilled trades careers, virtual reality job training, trade school alternatives, upward mobility without college, women in the trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Bharani Rajakumar, Transfr, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory CouncilResource Links: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bharanidharan-rajakumar-98aa1a1/Website: https://transfrinc.com/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    How SkillsUSA Texas is Building the Next Generation of Tradespeople with Crystal Latham Alford

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with Crystal Latham-Alford, Executive Director of SkillsUSA Texas. They dive into the impact of SkillsUSA competitions, the importance of career technical education (CTE), and how students can prepare for successful skilled trades careers. Crystal shares insights on how trade school opportunities help bridge the gap in the workforce, the role of soft skills training, and how industries can better support the next generation of tradespeople. If you're passionate about craftsmanship, problem-solving, and trades careers, this episode is a must-listen!IN THIS EPISODE:(00:02:15) – What is SkillsUSA and how it prepares students for skilled trades careers(00:08:40) – The importance of career technical education (CTE) and hands-on learning(00:15:10) – How SkillsUSA competitions simulate real-world work environments(00:23:45) – The role of soft skills training in career readiness for tradespeople(00:35:20) – How industry leaders and educators can support trade school opportunities(00:42:50) – Inspiring success stories from SkillsUSA competitorsKey Takeaways:SkillsUSA competitions help students develop technical and leadership skills, preparing them for skilled trades careers.Career technical education (CTE) provides hands-on learning that bridges the gap between school and the workforce.Soft skills training, such as communication and problem-solving, is just as important as technical skills for long-term success in trades careers.Trade school opportunities offer viable career paths in industries like carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, millwrights, and construction.About the Guest:Crystal Latham-Alford is the Executive Director of SkillsUSA Texas, a leader in career technical education (CTE) and workforce development. With a passion for trades careers, she works to provide students with hands-on learning experiences, professional development, and networking opportunities in industries like construction, craftsmanship, and problem-solving. Under her leadership, SkillsUSA competitions continue to shape the next generation of skilled trades professionals.Keywords:SkillsUSA competition, skilled trades careers, career technical education (CTE), trade school opportunities, soft skills training, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Crystal Latham-Alford, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council.RESOURCE LINKS:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystal-latham-alford-89b417173/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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    SkillsUSA: Skilled Trades Careers, Competition, and Opportunities with Brooke Gatchell

    Host Andrew Brown welcomes Brooke Gatchell, Social Media Specialist at SkillsUSA, to discuss the impact of the SkillsUSA welding competition and other trade competitions on students and professionals. They explore how skilled trades careers are evolving, the importance of trade school opportunities, and how organizations like SkillsUSA contribute to workforce development programs. They also discuss the National Leadership and Skills Conference, where the best in the trades industry showcase their craftsmanship and compete for top honors.In this Episode:(03:15) – Introduction to SkillsUSA and its role in shaping skilled trades careers.(07:40) – The impact of the SkillsUSA welding competition and its influence on students.(12:25) – The role of the National Leadership and Skills Conference in career development.(18:10)– How trade school opportunities help build a strong workforce.(25:35) – The importance of mentorship and hands-on experience in workforce development programs.(32:50) – Final thoughts on advocacy, career growth, and the future of the trades industry.Key Takeaways:SkillsUSA is a powerful platform – It helps students develop technical and soft skills, preparing them for skilled trades careers.Competitions drive excellence – Events like the SkillsUSA welding competition and the National Leadership and Skills Conference push students to perfect their craft.Trade school opportunities matter – Education and training in the trades are crucial for closing the skills gap and creating job-ready professionals.Workforce development programs are essential – Industry partnerships and training initiatives help ensure the future success of tradespeople.About the Guest:Brooke Gatchell is the Social Media Specialist at SkillsUSA, a leading organization in workforce development programs for students entering skilled trades careers. She is passionate about advocacy in the trades industry, helping students find success through trade school opportunities and career competitions like the SkillsUSA welding competition and the National Leadership and Skills Conference.Keywords:SkillsUSA welding competition, skilled trades careers, trade school opportunities, workforce development programs, National Leadership and Skills Conference, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Brooke Brooke Gatchell [00:00:00]:RESOURCE LINKS:Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brookegatchell/Website: https://www.skillsusa.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolboxEvery dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Welcome to The Lost Art of the Skilled Trades, the ultimate podcast dedicated to celebrating and exploring the world of skilled trades. Hosted by Andrew Brown, a passionate advocate for the trades industry, this podcast is your go-to source for knowledge, inspiration, and practical advice. Andrew brings a unique perspective shaped by years of hands-on experience, entrepreneurial success, and a deep commitment to elevating the trades. Dive into the fascinating and ever-evolving world of skilled trades, where creativity, problem-solving, and dedication come together to build the world around us. From carpentry and HVAC systems to electricians, plumbers, millwrights, and beyond, every episode uncovers the grit, determination, and artistry that define the people behind these essential professions.Andrew’s journey began with a life-changing moment on September 11, 2001, when he worked alongside tradespeople, first responders, and community he

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