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The Messy Middle

Welcome to The Messy Middle. This is where we talk about what it means to live in the in-between—between healing and wholeness, clarity and confusion, exhaustion and hope. I’m Mila, a self-actualization coach who works with Black millennial women navigating the aftermath of betrayal, burnout, and hard decisions. You won’t find perfection here. You’ll find honesty. You’ll find yourself. New podcast episodes drop Tuesdays. Subscribe if you’re looking for real conversations about what it takes to keep going—even when you’re still figuring it out.

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    When Life Feels Stuck in Transition: Why the Middle Takes Longer Than Expected (Season 2 Finale)

    The middle of a life transition is often longer than we expect. In the Season 2 finale, Jamila reflects on what it means to live in the in-between — after things have changed, but before anything feels resolved.This episode explores the quiet, extended middle that comes after loss, faith shifts, starting over, forgiveness, and emotional rebuilding. It’s not about closure or lessons learned. It’s about what it feels like to keep living when you’re no longer in crisis, but you’re not settled either — when the support fades, the questions stop, and you’re still figuring out who you are now.This conversation centers the experience of women — especially Black women — navigating long transitions without timelines, applause, or clear endings. We talk about patience, identity, loneliness, and the pressure to appear “okay” while things are still rearranging internally.This episode closes out Season 2 by naming a truth we don’t hear often: some seasons don’t resolve cleanly, and some turning points take longer than expected. If you’re still standing in the middle, this conversation is for you.

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    Celebrating Wins Alone in Midlife: When Success Feels Lonely (with Elle)

    In this episode of The Messy Middle, Season 2, Jamila sits down with special guest, Elle, to explore a rarely discussed experience — what it’s like to achieve wins, reach milestones, and make progress with no cheering section.Success is often imagined as loud and celebrated, but many women know the quieter reality: personal victories that happen in isolation, growth that feels unseen, and accomplishments that don’t always bring the joy we expect. This conversation unpacks the emotional and psychological layers of navigating “silent wins,” including loneliness, self-validation, shifting motivation, and redefining what success actually means.If you’ve ever reached a goal and felt the weight of having no one to share it with, this episode will resonate.Topics include:• Silent milestones and private victories• The emotional side of success• Loneliness, validation, and identity• How isolation reshapes ambition and growth• Reframing success without external applauseSubscribe for honest conversations about growth, transitions, and the realities of living in the messy middle of life.

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    Forgiveness After Hurt in Midlife: Letting Go Without Forgetting

    Forgiveness isn’t the same as forgetting — and it isn’t a one-time decision. In this episode, Jamila explores what forgiveness really looks like when the hurt still lives in your body, your memory, and your boundaries.This conversation unpacks the messy middle of forgiveness: choosing peace without minimizing harm, releasing resentment without forcing reconciliation, and telling the truth about what happened without letting it define you. For many Black women, forgiveness comes with pressure — to be gracious, resilient, spiritually mature, and “over it” — even when the damage was never acknowledged.This episode speaks to anyone navigating forgiveness after betrayal, emotional harm, family wounds, or long-standing hurt. We talk about anger, compassion, boundaries, grief, and the quiet work of healing that doesn’t come with closure or apologies.This is not a conversation about excusing behavior or rushing the process. It’s about forgiving in a way that protects your dignity, honors your experience, and allows you to move forward without erasing the truth.This episode is for you if: • You’re trying to forgive but still feel hurt or angry • You don’t want reconciliation, but you want peace • You’re learning to set boundaries instead of bleeding quietly • You’re healing without apologies or closure • You’re redefining forgiveness on your own termsIf this resonates, take a breath and honor where you are. Forgiveness doesn’t have to be clean or complete to be real.

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    The Pressure to Be Strong: How Stereotypes Impact Black Women in Midlife

    This episode digs into the pressure Black women carry when we’re expected to be “strong,” unbreakable, and always okay — even when we’re exhausted. We’re talking about the stereotypes that shape how we’re treated, how we treat ourselves, and what it costs us to keep performing resilience while we’re hurting. This conversation invites us to lay some of that weight down, question who benefits from our constant strength, and explore what it looks like to choose softness, rest, and self-honesty instead of survival mode.

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    Building Wealth Through Life Transitions: How Black Women Redefine Success in Midlife

    Life transitions don’t just change your circumstances — they force you to rebuild how you see yourself, your future, and your possibilities. In this episode of The Messy Middle, we’re talking about how Black women are using major life shifts — career changes, divorce, relocation, grief, starting over in midlife — as turning points for building wealth, stability, and self-defined success. This conversation gets honest about fear, resilience, reinvention, and the quiet courage it takes to create a life that finally supports you back.This episode sits in the messy middle of transition — where you’re no longer who you were spiritually, but you’re still figuring out who you’re becoming.

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    Expressing Your Needs in Relationships: When It Feels Risky to Speak Up

    In this episode, we’re talking about the moments when naming your needs doesn’t just feel vulnerable — it feels risky. The kind of risky that makes your chest tighten, your voice hesitate, and your mind wonder what might change once you finally say out loud what you’ve been carrying in silence.We explore why so many women learn to shrink, adjust, and “make do” in relationships — and how our history with abandonment, dismissal, and emotional minimization shapes the way we show up when it’s time to ask for reciprocity, consistency, or emotional safety. We talk about what clarity reveals, why some people pull away when accountability shows up, and how honoring your needs can strengthen the relationship you have with yourself — even when it rearranges the dynamics around you.If you’ve ever felt like speaking your truth might cost you connection, this conversation is for you.

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    Living with Uncertainty in Midlife: How to Keep Moving When You Don’t Know What’s Next

    This episode digs into what it means to keep moving when you don’t know the answer, the timing, or what comes next. We talk about the tension of waiting, the fear that rises in the unknown, and the courage it takes to show up anyway — with honesty, self-trust, and intention, even when the path isn’t clear.

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    Starting Over in Your 40s: What It Looks Like to Begin Again in Midlife

    Starting over in your 40s can feel overwhelming, especially when life doesn’t look the way you expected.
This episode explores what it means to begin again, rebuild, and move forward in midlife.Starting over in your 40s can feel like standing in the middle of a life you’ve already lived and realizing you’re being asked to build again — with fewer illusions and a whole lot more truth. In this episode, we talk about the grief, the courage, and the quiet rebuilding that happens when the path you thought you were on no longer fits. We’re naming the fears, honoring the losses, and claiming the right to begin again with wisdom, self-honesty, and a future that actually reflects who you’ve become.

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    Dating After Emotional Hurt in Midlife: A Conversation with Nichole Williams

    Dating after emotional hurt can feel complicated, especially when past experiences still linger.
This episode explores what it means to open yourself up again, rebuild trust, and navigate relationships differently in midlife.Dating after you’ve been hurt is not simple. In this episode of The Messy Middle, Jamila sits down with Mindset and Confidence Coach Nichole Williams for a real conversation about love, trust, triggers, and rebuilding confidence after emotional damage. They talk about intuition vs trauma responses, emotional safety, boundaries, and what it really looks like to date while you’re still healing. This episode is for anyone trying to open their heart again without losing themselves.

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    Outgrowing Your Faith: Leaving What No Longer Fits in Midlife

    Outgrowing your faith can feel disorienting, especially when it once shaped who you were.
This episode explores what it means to question, release, and redefine your beliefs in midlife.This episode dives into the quiet, complicated journey Black women face when their faith begins to shift. It explores what it feels like to still believe in God while feeling disconnected from the pressure, silence, and expectations that came with church culture.This is the middle of a spiritual turning point — where the old version of faith doesn’t fit anymore, and the new version hasn’t fully formed. If you’re questioning, rethinking, or rebuilding your relationship with God, this conversation creates space to be honest about where you are without guilt or fear.Your faith can grow with you. You’re allowed to change spiritually. And you’re not wrong for asking the questions you were taught to ignore.

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    Feeling Invisible While Creating: What It Means to Keep Showing Up Anyway

    This episode explores what it feels like to create and show up without being seen or recognized.
If you’re a woman in midlife navigating invisibility, discouragement, and the tension of continuing anyway, this conversation will speak to you.In this season finale, I’m not talking to you—I’m talking with you. About the tension between wanting to create something meaningful and feeling invisible while doing it. About the moments when you show up with your whole heart and still feel like no one sees it. This isn’t a pep talk. It’s the middle of trying to trust your gift when the world stays silent. If you’ve ever poured yourself into something and wondered if it even mattered, this one’s for you.

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    Healing After a Breakup in Adulthood: Why You Still Feel Half-Healed

    This episode explores what it feels like to be partially healed after a breakup and why some emotions don’t fully go away.
If you’re a woman in midlife navigating heartbreak, lingering attachment, and emotional recovery, this conversation will speak to you.There’s a space nobody talks about—the one after the breakup but before the healing. You’re not checking their page every day anymore, but they still live in your mind rent-free. You’re not going back, but you’re also not quite free either.In this episode of The Messy Middle Podcast 🎙️, we sit with the confusing, in-between space of heartbreak—the part where the crying is done but the ache hasn’t left. It’s the space of lingering feelings, unfinished closure, and the slow, quiet work of letting go.You’ll hear: • Why moving on is rarely a straight line • The difference between missing a person and missing how you felt • How grief after love shows up in layers, long after the breakup • Why staying gone—even when you’re not “over it”—is an act of strengthIf you’ve ever felt stuck between hurting and healing, this conversation is for you.

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    Outgrowing Friendships in Adulthood: Why It Doesn’t Feel the Same Anymore

    Outgrowing friendships in adulthood can feel confusing, especially when nothing “bad” happened.
This episode is for women navigating changing relationships, emotional distance, and growth in midlife.Some friendships don’t end. They just fade. The texts get shorter. The laughs feel forced. The connection starts to feel more like obligation than closeness. In this episode, we sit with the in-between of a friendship that’s still technically alive—but no longer thriving. This is for the woman who doesn’t have the words for it, but knows the energy has shifted.

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    The Cost of Doing What You Love: When Passion Starts to Feel Heavy

    This episode explores the emotional and mental cost of doing what you love, especially when it stops feeling light.
If you’re a woman in midlife navigating burnout, pressure, and the reality behind your passion, this conversation will speak to you.Everyone says that if you love what you do, it shouldn’t feel like work. But the truth is, even meaningful work can drain you. In this episode, we sit with the uncomfortable middle—when your purpose starts to feel like pressure, and the thing you once felt called to is quietly wearing you down.

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    Setting Boundaries with Family in Adulthood: “But That’s Still Your Family”

    This episode explores the pressure to stay connected to family and what it looks like to set boundaries anyway.
If you’re a woman in midlife navigating guilt, expectations, and complicated family dynamics, this conversation will speak to you.What do you do when people tell you to stick it out with toxic family members—because “family is everything”—but your spirit knows you need distance? This episode holds space for that painful middle ground: the guilt, the grief, and the radical choice to protect your peace even if it means walking away.

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    Feeling Stuck in Life: What It Looks Like When You’re Still in Progress

    This episode explores what it really feels like to be in progress and why feeling stuck doesn’t always mean you’re not moving. If you’re a woman in midlife navigating uncertainty, growth, and frustration with where you are, this conversation will speak to you.You’ve done the work. You’ve journaled, reflected, and outgrown the chaos—but you still don’t feel like you’ve “arrived.” This episode is for anyone who’s stuck in that in-between space: where stability isn’t really a thing yet, but neither is success. “In Progress” holds space for the exhaustion that comes with constant self-work and reminds you that growth doesn’t have to be loud, shiny, or perfect to be real.

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    Starting Over in Midlife: The Messy Middle Introduction

    This episode introduces The Messy Middle and what it means to be in a season of starting over and figuring things out.
If you’re a woman in midlife navigating change, uncertainty, and identity shifts, this conversation will speak to you.This is your official welcome to The Messy Middle—a podcast for women navigating the space between what was and what’s next. In this short intro, I’m sharing what this show is about, who it’s for, and what you can expect each week. If you’ve ever felt caught between clarity and confusion, between holding it together and falling apart—you’re in the right place. New episodes drop every Tuesday. Let’s be honest about what it means to live in the in-between.

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    The Messy Middle Trailer

    Welcome to The Messy Middle—the podcast that holds space for all the in-between moments. This isn’t about healing perfectly or thriving nonstop. It’s about navigating the parts of life that don’t have easy answers. In this short trailer, I share what this podcast is, who it’s for, and why these messy, uncertain spaces deserve to be named and respected. If you’ve ever felt stuck between letting go and moving on, you’re in the right place.

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Welcome to The Messy Middle. This is where we talk about what it means to live in the in-between—between healing and wholeness, clarity and confusion, exhaustion and hope. I’m Mila, a self-actualization coach who works with Black millennial women navigating the aftermath of betrayal, burnout, and hard decisions. You won’t find perfection here. You’ll find honesty. You’ll find yourself. New podcast episodes drop Tuesdays. Subscribe if you’re looking for real conversations about what it takes to keep going—even when you’re still figuring it out.

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Welcome to The Messy Middle. This is where we talk about what it means to live in the in-between—between healing and wholeness, clarity and confusion, exhaustion and hope. I’m Mila, a self-actualization coach who works with Black millennial women navigating the aftermath of betrayal, burnout, and...

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