The Next Shift Podcast

Send us Fan MailWell, we made it! Another season of the Next Shift Podcast has come and gone!A very special THANK YOU to you, the listener, and to all of the guests who have truly become HOPE DEALERS to so many in the LE community!This episode is me recapping the Top 10 downloaded episodes and encouraging you to go back and listen to each of them, and make sure you connect with the guests. One of my solo episodes was in the top 10, but I wanted to highlight our incredible guests...so I added it as a BONUS top episode, since clearly it resonated.Your TOP 10 episodes are...1. Episode 2 - From surviving to thriving w/ John Kelly2. Episode 4 - Retired...for 3 days, then back at it w/Chris Perry3. Episode 3 - COPLINE as a LIFELINE w/Stephanie Samuels4. Episode 15 - Former recruiter & prior LEO w/Courtney Lesiak5. Episode 18 - FIRED. It COULD happen to YOU w/Sarah Patterson6. Episode 17 - Retirement doesn't always mean retired w/Cary Goldberg7. Episode 8 - Retirement feels like free falling w/Dan Murphy8. Episode 6 - From cop to Public Safety consultant w/Tim Kucerovy9. Episode 7 - Therapy is a aCOLLABORATIVE process w/Dr Brooke Bartlett10. Episode 16 - PTSD is NOT a life sentence w/Dr Erika Birkley*BONUS - Episode 5 - Don't wait for life AFTER law enforcement to have a life OUTSIDE law enforcement w/meMake sure you connect with each of these incredible guests. Their contact information is available in the show notes for their episode. If you want to wear the mission, you can get your Next Shift Podcast gear, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailWelcome to the next to last show of season 4!I didn’t record last week and it wasn't because I didn't have anything to say (we all know that's never a problem) or that I didn’t care… but because I just didn’t have the capacity. I spent the day alternating between thoughts of guilt/shame and grace. It made me realize something a lot of us don’t want to admit...we ALL have a capacity, whether we admit it or not. Being aware of that capacity and being willing to step back to create space in our minds and in our lives...is NOT weakness. If your life is packed, your schedule is full, you're in the middle of learning something new, and your brain is constantly running… there’s no room to think, let alone move forward. So while you may NOT be stuck...you may be FULL, which is not allowing you to move forward. In this episode, I talk about what it actually looks like to hit your capacity, why we tend to label it as weakness, and the hard truth about creating space if you really want something different. I am not talking as a "professional" or someone with a degree, but from MY real life and in the moment lessons.What I've learned over the years and what I'm currently learning again in realtime, is that you can’t build a new life on top of one that’s already maxed out. You have to give yourself both grace and space to create a new life.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Travis Powell...a retired LEO, Marine Corps Veteran, husband, and father...who is now in his second post LE career. Travis and I connected on LinkedIn back in 2023, while he was in the midst of planning his retirement. A year later, he was retired, moving several states away, starting his first post LE career, a regular at DEBRIEF, and a constant giver on LinkedIn. Several months later, Travis found himself facing something we never had to worry about in law enforcement...laid off...just before the holidays. Due to Travis continuing to show up for others in the LinkedIn space (always willing to have a conversation with someone), he was able to find his current career in right around 30 days! SO...in this episode we talk about the power of LinkedIn and always giving more than you receive.We also discuss his career, his meticulously thought out 3-year retirement plan, the actual transition to civilian life, the difference of the corporate worked, advice for setting retirement expectations, the importance of networking, and even mental health. Travis talked about how he felt when he put in his retirement papers and how it took him back a little, how the first day as a civilian felt, and how he/his life has changed in life after law enforcement. His words for those facing the, "I'm just a cop," mindset..."You're not. But you have to want something different or find a new spark." Make sure you connect with Travis on LinkedIn, here, and tag him if you share this episode with your network. It's full of golden nuggets!If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailOver the past 10 years out of LE and the past 3 years working with those preparing for/going through...or struggling with the transition...I've learned a few things. This episode is for those thinking about and/or preparing for the transition to life after law enforcement. There have been 3 recurring themes I've seen over and over and over. I've talked about them on calls, in posts, in DMs, and even on this show...but there are still several people from 3 years ago claiming they are stuck. This episode is NOT about calling you out...but instead, about calling you UP. To give you 3 specific things, from MY experience, that you MUST do if you are truly trying to transition out of law enforcement. This list is NOT all encompassing, but again...the 3 main themes I see over and over, and the things that helped me get to the point I am now at, 10 years removed. There is a previous episode I reference, from season 2..."Career transition tips from a recruiter," and I highly recommend you listen to it if you haven't already or listen to it again if you're still feeling stuck. It was one of the most popular episodes and the tactical tips were so good! If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis episode is one that I love to do, but haven't done in awhile. There is a form at the link in my bio on both LinkedIn and Instagram, that I created back in 2022, when I first thought of Next Shift. Over the years, people randomly click on the link and fill out the form. If you've made the transition to life after law enforcement, you can fill it out here. This is an episode where I share YOUR words, from that form, anonymously of course. There were so many forms filled out in 2025 and a majority of them were from people with 20+ years of service...which kind of blew me away. The purpose of an episode like this, is to help YOU feel less alone...to make YOU feel seen, heard, and understood. I can assure you, that you are NOT alone in anything you are thinking or feeling as you prepare for or go through the transition to life after law enforcement. You are NOT the first and you won't be the last to go through it...so lean on those who've been there, and be there for the others going through it. I mention DEBRIEF a few times in this episode and this month's call is Thursday, March 26, 2026 at 6:45pm CST. This is a zoom call for current and former LEOs ONLY and is typically around 1.5 hours. If you have signed up before, the link will go out Wednesday. If you have NEVER signed up, but want to join us, sign up , here. I also mention one of the very first resources I made, a 25 transferable skills sheet, that you can reference, here. It will help you realize you have more skills than you're giving yourself credit for.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with David Berez, a retired LEO turned Founder of Six4 Consultants, an author, and media consultant.David worked at his campus PD in college and as an EMT, then became a cop at 24 years old. He worked in the state of New Jersey and was a responder to 9/11, which he says gave him new perspective. David served in various roles throughout his career, but DRE was his favorite because it was a mix of narcotics and community policing. During his 19th year on the job, he was part of an IA that took a toll on him and in his words, "broke him." He ended up retiring at 20 years, versus 25, with some encouragement from his wife.David admitted his transition was not graceful and that he left burned out, empty, and without the ability to love. He was NOT prepared for the transition and it took years to get back to a version of himself he was comfortable with and that his family deserved. The hardest part of David's transition was understanding and finding his purpose. David talked about how liberating it felt to put in his retirement papers, but how hard it was to drive out of the parking lot on his last day. When talking about his retirement, David talked about being able to process the emotional side of the transition because there was no financial strain to deal with. After a couple of months being retired, his wife asked him what he was going to do. David went back to school and earned a Master's Degree is Applied Positive Psychology and now teaches/facilitates courses on Positive Psychology for law enforcement, through his Courageous Optimism training series. He also teaches the science of storytelling and how it can be used to identify purpose and meaning. When asked what his advice was for those struggling with the "Just a cop" mindset, he acknowledged that it's a valid feeling. Sit with it and find your purpose/meaning statement.Make sure you connect with David on LinkedIn, here and Instagram, here. You can also check out his website, here.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is an important and impactful conversation with Meagan McCarthy...a former Deputy from California, with one helluva story. One thing I love about Meagan's story, is that she is still figuring out what life after law enforcement looks like...six years out. *TRIGGER WARNING: SUICIDEMeagan is a LEO wife, a mom, speaker, advocate for law enforcement...especially in the realm of mental health, and an entrepreneur.Meagan talks about getting married young, becoming a single mom, going to nursing school, and having a friend convince her to do a ride along. Like many of us, Meagan was sold on the job after doing that ride along. She worked the jail for 6 months, then spent time in various units throughout her career, and her last assignment prior to her career ending was SRO. As an SRO, Meagan handled child abuse cases and said investigations was her favorite role. In fact, June of 2019, she was about to be promoted to detective...so she had to work some road shifts.Meagan recounted the details of the call that ended her career...where a suspect was able to get her gun and shoot at her...but thankfully missed. She also recounted everything that comes after a critical incident...the questions, the doubts, the fears, the unknown, the trial...and even a suicide attempt. Thankfully, once again, her life was spared and she is WILLING to share her story to save others. Since medically retiring with PTSD in 2022, Meagan has written a book, been a Fox News contributor, has been involved with CA politics (especially involving LEOs), has spoken at numerous conferences, and now runs a successful health and wellness business via social media. Make sure you connect with Meagan on Instagram, here, and LinkedIn, here.If you are in need of immediate crisis assistance, PLEASE CALL any one of the below trusted/vetted resources: National Suicide Hotline: 988COPLINE: 1-800-COPLINE (267-5463)First Responder Crisis Support Hotline: 1-844-550-HERO (4376)If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Chris Samayoa, a prior LEO who lost his career just one week into FTO and is now an associate therapist for first responders. There was a time, I wouldn't have believed this kind of thing could happen, but we are seeing it more and more these days. For those still on the job...this can happen, especially if you're involved in a UOF or OIS incident. You NEED to be prepared for not only what comes next, career wise...but what to do to make it through the incident and aftermath.Chris was born and raised in the San Fransisco area and had LEOs in his family, plus a neighbor that was a cop, so he was always around the job. He went to college and obtained a degree in Psychology. He then went to the academy and when asked if he felt prepared for the road after graduation... I was shocked to hear him say no. He explained his answer and while I could not relate...I know plenty of people who can. Chris recalled a visit from the Behavioral Science Unit, within the first week of the academy and family was invited. It was there that the class was told they could be involved in an officer involved shooting their first day...but like many rookies..."That  won't happen to me," crossed his mind. Little did he know, that just one week into FTO, he would be involved in an OIS and his career would be over. Chris did not want to go into specifics of the call/case...and I don't blame him, after what he was put through by the department, DA's office, and the public. He says you can search his name and find information, but it isn't super accurate and he was EVENTUALLY cleared by the DA, after a prior cop hating DA who charged him years later, was removed from office.Chris detailed what the immediate aftermath and YEARS of court proceedings. He talked about the bulk of the trauma being the admin betrayal and the now recalled DA gloating about charging a cop. While he was off and eventually unemployed, Chris obtained his Master's Degree in Counseling...but there were also hiccups receiving that, due to criminal charges filed by the DA.One piece that I want to reiterate because I see it so often with those who are injured in the line of duty or off work on admin leave for one reason or another, is the stronghold departments seem to keep on people, not allowing them to move on. Chris says his purpose now is to be the support officer's need, to alleviate mental health concerns, bring goodness into the world, and ministry work. Make sure you follow Chris on Instagram, here, or check out his website, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with another one of my favorite people I've met through this journey...and YES, it WAS on LinkedIn!Caitlin (Cait) Thomas is a former Federal LEO with Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), who had her career cut short due to a medical condition and is now in the financial industry...something she did prior to law enforcement. Cait grew up in Hawaii, her parents are/were involved with the Justice system, and her father and brother are/were involved in the military... so she always knew she wanted to make a difference, protect others, and be part of something bigger than herself. Cait was a finance major in college and was an Investment Specialist at a bank, prior to joining HSI. One day, she had the realization she was not fulfilled and making the kind of difference she wanted to make. She talked to her dad about it, who was an Assistant US Attorney at the time. He started introducing her to different agents he worked with and she eventually chose HSI. She started the academy in 2019 and once an agent worked Cyber Crimes/ICAC cases. In 2020, after putting off symptoms for over a year and pushing through pain like so many of us do...she finally scheduled an MRI after a co-worker encouraged her. The doctor called right away and informed her that her brain was herniated at the base of her skull, due to a cyst they couldn't drain, and she would need brain surgery to remove it or she could possibly be paralyzed. After surgery, other neurological issues started happening and that was the beginning of the end to her career, in April 2025.As the writing on the wall started to appear, that her career was over...she had to decide what she wanted to do and how she could still serve. The financial industry is what her degree was in, she had prior work experience in the industry, and finance allows her to help people who don't always know how to help themselves.Cait talked about feeling like her body betrayed her, the grief she felt for losing structure, identity, purpose, and "family," and how lonely she felt because there was no one who "got it." She also talked about realizing that none of us are actually alone, and that was something she learned because of LinkedIn and this podcast. Cait's advice for those facing the "Just a cop" mindset was to stop thinking you're not that interesting and your story doesn't matter (because it does), to not limit yourself, and to know your WHY.Make sure you connect with Cait on LinkedIn, here.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with my guy, Kurt Hoffler...a retired LEO turned Video Content Strategist and a regular member of the monthly DEBRIEF call. Kurt's exudes positive energy, is always encouraging others to lean into their hobbies and passions, and just a darn good guy who's always smiling. Kurt is from Connecticuit and grew up in the church. When he was playing AAU basketball, one of the coaches was a detective and he really leaned into him and decided to work in law enforcement. Kurt started as a dispatcher for the State Police, worked in Juvenile Detention, and finally went through a live in police academy. He began working at UCONN in 2004 and enjoyed several positions...most of which included collaboration and had a community aspect. During Covid, his department was undergoing the accreditation process and he was asked to help with a video to assist...they passed. When he was eligible to retire, he did and had no regrets.His retirement took a bit of a detour and he ended up moving to Washington DC and getting hired by George Washington University, where he served as a Sergeant. He spent a couple years there, while also leaning into his passion for audio engineering and videography. Pretty soon, he realized, he retired for a reason and decided to leave law enforcement a second time. Kurt says he's the same person, but has less stress and is more relaxed. When asked what he believes his purpose is now, he stated it's storytelling, through a lens. Kurt's advice to those facing the "just a cop" mindset, is to surround yourself with people outside of law enforcement, who will help you grow. Make sure to connect with Kurt on LinkedIn, here or on Instagram, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with Betsy Smith, aka Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith, and boy does she have some spunk! It was such a fun convo and we touched on some topics we haven't necessarily covered on this show...like being a female in law enforcement...especially in the 80s - 90s. For those of you who don't know Betsy, you're missing out...but, as a short intro...she is a retired LEO, Police Trainer, National Spokesman for National Police Association, on the Executive Board for The Wounded Blue, a cancer survivor, a wife, mother, fur mom, and now grandmother. As you can see, retired life has NOT slowed her down at all!Betsy talked about being a farm girl in Illinois in the 60s and 70s, and how she knew in Junior High that she wanted to be a cop. There were no female characters in the cop TV shows at that time and it inspired her. She was a police dispatcher in HS/College and became a cop in 1980, where she spent 29 years in a Chicago Suburb. Betsy had a heck of a "welcome to policing" moment in the academy that I'm sure the person making the statement thought would make her leave...but it only made her more determined. She spent time on patrol, undercover (favorite role), on a task force, was an FTO, a Detective, a Sergeant, and eventually turned down Lieutenant. Betsy even starred on a Reality TV Show her last year and a half.Due to Betsy's extensive experience in speaking, writing, and training...I asked her for advice to those looking to get into that during or after their career. She said to prepare NOW...start writing articles, do informal trainings, and go to conferences.When asked how life has changed after law enforcement, she stated she is far less cynical, she has embraced her faith, and focused on fitness for health.If you are not connected with Betsy, you can connect with her on Instagram, here, and on LinkedIn, here. FYI- This conversation was recorded prior to The Wounded Blue Survival Summit, which is mentioned at the end of this episode and while that conference is now in the past...you can check out their upcoming Summit by following them on social media.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with Vickie Speed, Founder of Blue Cancer Connect and widow of LASD Detective Mitch Speed.I don't know a single person who has not been impacted by cancer in one way or another. I want this episode to not only be in remembrance of Vickie's Husband, but also in remembrance of all our brothers and sisters in blue, taken too soon by this horrible disease. If you don't know Vickie or aren't connected with her, I highly suggest connecting with her and finding out how you can support this incredible organization she has built, by turning pain into purpose. In this episode, Vickie talks about the day Mitch found out he had stage 4 cancer, the 26 month battle he fought, and ultimately his passing. She also talks about how the department stepped up to help, how she got through the battle and the struggles that came afterward, getting into therapy, helping her adult son through the loss and losing his way, and eventually finding strength through the struggle and starting Blue Cancer Connect.Her strength is admirable and you can tell that so much of it comes from her faith. In fact, she described Mitch as having faith that could move mountains and how he never questioned or got mad at God after the diagnosis, but instead, asked how they could use it to serve others. Vickie says Mitch used the 26 months after his diagnosis to bring others closer to God.Four years after his passing, Vickie recalls being awakened by God and he told her to write, "Blue Cancer Connect." She woke up the next day and didn't know what it meant...but it eventually became an organization to help others facing the challenges of cancer. Vickie talks about what the organization is able to do, not only for organizations, but for the individual facing the diagnosis. Whether you're a LEO, family member, or civilian PD employee, Blue Cancer Connect is here to help you. You can check out their website, here and check them out on Instagram, here. You can connect with Vickie via email at [email protected] you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with Sarah Patterson, prior Sergeant with LAPD. I first heard her story on The IA Guy podcast and was flabbergasted with what I heard. You can listen to that episode, after this one, here.I reached out to her, not only because I wanted to be there for her...but also to share a type of transition story that has not yet been shared on this podcast, despite how often it seems to happen after 2020.Sarah is not only a prior cop...she is a wife, mom, real estate agent, and law school student.Sarah was one of those people who didn't grow up wanting to be a cop. She was a cross fitter and owned a Crossfit gym, where several LAPD worked out. One day, she was offered a ride along and that was all it took for her to get hooked! Sarah loved the job and didn't mind working in the shit of things. She was promoted to Sergeant and that is when it happened...the start of her career ending.What Sarah describes about the call that changed everything, is something almost every cop/Sergeant can relate to. It is something that so many have done. It is also something so many can't relate to at all. Sarah talks about the IA process and how it can leave you feeling left out to dry, feeling like a failure, confused, and encourages EVERYONE to know your policies and to ALWAYS get outside representation.If this episode resonates with you, realize you are NOT alone and there are people out there who "get it." Sarah is willing to chat with you and DEBRIEF is always open to you.If it does NOT resonate with you and/or you find it hard to believe, because it hasn't happened to you or someone you know...I'm glad it hasn't, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Ask yourself how we can ensure these things don't keep happening to good people. Sarah has learned the hard way, what it's like to not have a backup plan and to prioritize the job over family and God. She now realizes her priorities were backwards and while the circumstances suck, she's thankful for the lessons.Sarah is still in a fight to get her job back, despite having moved forward. Make sure you follow and connect with her on Instagram, here. She's already had so many reach out and share similar stories...which always helps the pain of sharing yours.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with Cary Goldberg... a retired LEO, a veteran, and now the Director of Business Management with Starchase.Cary walks us through his journey of growing up in Northern Virginia, realizing a four year university was not for him, joining the Marine Corps and going to the West coast, then transitioning into Law Enforcement and working for both municipal and county departments, and eventually retiring.The turning point in Cary's career hit in 2020, for many reasons...which he talks about and deciding to retire, he had no plan other than he didn't want to work and did not want to stay in California. He and his wife sold everything and decided to RV across the country. Like with so many retirees...that lasted six months. With no "home base" and structure, it was difficult, so they decided on a home base and he found a career that is adjacent to Law Enforcement. Cary talks about how he once had work over family as the priority and how FAMILY is the priority. He also encourages others to work on becoming the best version of yourself. He also gave advice for those looking to transition..."don't pigeon hole yourself."Make sure you follow and connect with Cary on LinkedIn, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is an incredible conversation with Dr. Erica Birkley, who was actually recommended by a prior guest and friend, Chris Perry. He credits Dr. Birkley with helping him heal and get to where he is. You can check out his episode, here. There were sooo many notes from this episode that there is NO WAY to include them all, so I will suggest getting out a notebook while listening. Dr. Birkley is a Psychologist in Cincinnati, who owns her own private group practice and specializes in working with first responders. Some of the things she does through her practice are outpatient PTSD treatment, clinical depression, critical incident response, psych testing for departments, and training. Dr. Birkley trained at the VA and credits that training as a great training ground for first responders, she then worked at the University of Cincinnati Hospital treating first responders, where she realized a true passion for working with them. Treating PTSD, especially working with couples is her favorite modality. When she was confronted with the reality of not only being able to work with first responders through the hospital, she CHOSE to leave (without a plan, but a lot of faith) and start her own practice, so she could serve our community. We discussed her "welcome to the field" moment, what patterns she sees in our law enforcement community, how important accountability is, the importance of different perspectives, and how a diagnosis (like PTSD) is NOT a life sentence. Dr. Birkley shared stats and science that helped provide so much hope! She gives red flags for PTSD (listen to these!), realistic expectations for treatment, and gives tips for those moving into the transition to life after law enforcement. You can connect with Dr. Birkley through her website, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailIf you're looking to transition out of law enforcement in 2026...this episode is for YOU. This week's episode is a chat with Courtney Lesiak, a former recruiter turned cop...and now former LEO, who's also a mom and wife to a now former cop, and embarking on a new career journey.Courtney talks about being a recruiter and enjoying it, but not enjoying sitting at a cubicle all day...so she became a cop. She met her husband on the job and served 6.5 years before transitioning out in 2021, after having a child, child-care in a post-covid era, and getting turned down for a position.She also talks about being a female on the job and how you are NOT the same cop you were before children, and the initial feeling of relief during the transition. She was able to land a job after leaving, due to running into an old co-worker who offered her a position. A reminder to NEVER burn bridges.Courtney provides "insider info" and tips for job seeker... including things like being seen as a serious professional, looking outside of the traditional corporate security roles, and being more detailed on your resume. She also touches on the short term sacrifices often necessary for long term gains...something SOOO many in this profession NEED to hear and understand.Make sure you connect with Courtney on LinkedIn, here.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailWE MADE IT!Another year has come and gone, can you believe it?! This is a solo episode that I thought would be about 20 minutes and ended up being 48-ish minutes because this topic gets me fired up. It may be helpful to have a notebook or the notes section of your phone handy as you listen to this one. Like with every episode, but especially the solo episodes...take what resonates and leave the rest. This episode is all about closing out 2025 with reflections and intentions...VERSUS shame, guilt, and judgement. I mention the three women below and/or their podcasts in the episode, as well as the F.I.T. Method Workbook I created for you...which you can get, here. - Dr. Medina Baumgart (Police Psychologist & wife of retired LEO) - follow her on Instagram and check out her podcast, here.- Dina Campbell (NYPD officer & LEO wife) - follow her on IG and check out podcast, here.- Katherine Boyle (Daughter of retired Philly cop) - follow her on IG and check out her podcast, here.One last reminder to close out the year...You are NOT alone. You are NOT stuck. You are NOT "just a cop."Cheers to a new year!If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis is a short and sweet episode, mainly thanking you for being here and wishing you a very Merry Christmas, along with a safe and happy New Year. I share a couple of tips that can help during this season of hustle and bustle, including...gratitude, communication, and practicing the pause. This season brings various emotions for everyone, and that is OKAY. If you are full of the holiday spirit and joy...OWN IT. Live in that. Just because you have a tough job or those around you are in a tough season, doesn't mean you need to dim your light. SHINE ON!If you are struggling in this season, for whatever reason...please know that you are NOT alone and I urge you to reach out to any number of resources NOW available. National Suicide Prevention Hotline:Dial 988Copline: 1-800-COPLINE [267-5463]First Responder Crisis Support Helpline:1-844-550-HERO [4376]If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Patrick Faulkner, about his journey from law enforcement to entrepreneurship, due to an off duty injury.Patrick is a prior LEO turned entrepreneur and podcast host of the Knock and Talk Show. He served 4 years in the US Air Force and after a year break, spent 16 years in law enforcement...in 4 different departments...before suffering an off duty injury that ended his career, without medical retirement.Patrick touches on so many points that resonate with so many of the cops I've spoken to over the past 3 years. To name a few...1. Depression (undiagnosed) cost him his marriage...once he admitted to being depressed, things changed.2. Trauma bonding sucks you in...it doesn't actually help you. 3. He wanted out, but was good at what he did...so he felt torn.4. Once he knew he was meant for more...he started planning.The title of this episode is one phrase he said that stuck out the most and represents what Next Shift stands for...go build your tomorrow, today. Make sure you connect with Patrick on LinkedIn and check out his podcast, here.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with Destiny Morris, LMFT and it is another one that you are not going to want to miss! It took a direction I didn't expect it to, but I'm okay with it because I truly believe it is going to help so many. Destiny is the daughter of a former cop, a dog mom, and a culturally competent licensed therapist. Due to the license she has, she can not only work with first responders, but also those working on marriage and family issues. Destiny grew up in a first responder household, while in grad school she dated a fireman and saw what the job can do to someone (couples), she then worked in a mental health hospital, where she saw first responders being treated in general population...which didn't seem right to her...and that was when she knew she needed to work with first responders. She then became EMDR trained and a trauma informed therapist...with a first responder certification.I asked Destiny to decode what the letters after her name and some of the others we currently see for those working with first responders, in the mental health space and to break down the process of starting/ending therapy, as well as digging into EMDR.Throughout the episode, Destiny reminded listeners that we are all humans, not robots...which I love and say all the time. She talked about being open-minded and prepping your family for the effects therapy/EMDR may have on you. Another thing we discussed was how trauma is different for EVERYONE. She has an incredible analogy she uses, talking about a filing cabinet and I love the way she breaks it down. You can watch it, here. We spent a LOT of the episode chatting all things EMDR...what it stands for, who it's for, how it helps, and so many other questions I had...trying to make it seem less "scary" to those who could benefit from it.For those in transition, Destiny said identity work is the most important thing...being able to answer "who am I?" She also addressed some common issues seen/felt by first responders.***If you're a loyal listener or even a new listener and you love the show, don't forget there is Next Shift and The Next Shift Podcast gear, available here.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with one of my favorite people I've met through LinkedIn, Chad Bruckner. If you don't follow him, I encourage you to. This is such an important conversation for my mid-career listeners, who feel torn between "sucking it up" and leaving. Chad is among many things...an Army veteran, a husband, a father to three kiddos, an entrepreneur, author/speaker, and what I love about his story...is that after 13 years on the job...he CHOSE to walk away. For the past 4 years, he's been on an entrepreneurial journey and honestly...a self discovery journey...that led him right back to police work. Chad is currently a detective at a University. Chad never wanted to be a cop, but due to his experience in the military and a push from his mom after his enlistment was over...he decided to become a cop. Chad details what it was like initially, when he culture was solid and how he was able to balance the job with raising a family. He also discusses how a declining culture can wreak havoc on someone and their career.Chad touches on the importance of self-awareness and the need to address your ego, often. The less self-aware you are, the bigger your ego...the more likely you are to stay stuck. When speaking about his decision to leave law enforcement 13 years in, he offered this advice to others, know what you're running to, not just what you're running from. He touches on moral injury and not leaving a department the way you want to, and how it weighs on you. Chad left his first department at 40 years old and realized it was the first time in his adult life that he wasn't an "operator" and didn't know who he was without a uniform. He knew he was declining emotionally/mentally from things he never processed from the military and the job...and while he didn't know it at the time, he needed to heal.Chad's advice to those who think, "I'm just a cop," was to consistently put yourself in uncomfortable positions and get out of your echo chamber, so you can learn new things and grow. Chad talks about his spirituality getting better and understanding that the past 4 years were not wasted...they led him to where he is supposed to be.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis is a SHORT, simple episode, all about GRATITUDE and how seriously life-changing it can be. This episode is mostly me sharing my gratitude for YOU...the listener, the sharer, and the guest (aka Hope Dealer).This podcast would not exist or be what it is, without YOU...so THANK YOU for listening in each week, for sharing on your social media, sending in messages, and for being willing to share your stories so openly in order to bring hope to those feeling hopeless. In this episode, I also share about a quick and simple daily gratitude practice I've been using for the past almost 8 years and it's gotten me though the most difficult of times of my life...and how YOU can implement it into YOUR day. I end with a special thank you to all of those still working and holding the line, especially on holidays. -> Don't forget, you can get your Next Shift Podcast gear, here...and SAVE 20%If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with Dan Murphy, a retired LEO out of NYPD, turned business owner and co-host of the incredible podcast, Gold Shields.One of the things that I love about this conversation is that it isn't about a RECENT retirement and that is important, because the number of messages I get every single week from those who retired YEARS ago...thanking me for this podcast and bringing awareness to life after law enforcement...are plentiful. This goes to show, that not everyone  just "moves on" right away and I also love seeing the trial and error of those moving forward...often leading to their own businesses and RENEWED sense of purpose.Dan started at NYPD in 1984 when he was just 21 years old and did less than four years on patrol before moving through different units like Warrant Squad, Narcotics, Organized Crime, DEA Task Force, Major Case Squad, IA, Gang, and TARU. 9/11 happened on Dan's 39th birthday, which happened to be a day off...but not after finding out what happened. He arrived on scene after the towers fell and began attempting to bring order to the chaos. He team was all "okay," and they began looking for people, working 7 days a week, 12-14 hours a day, for over a month. Dan says he learned a lot about leadership in that time. After 20 years and one month on the job, Dan chose to retire. He talks about having a plan, structure, finding a hobby, and having fulfillment. Through networking and prior relationships, Dan was able land a couple of roles in life after law enforcement and even reconnected with an old co-worker to partner on their podcast and creating a pepper spray alternative. You can connect with Dan, here.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is an incredible conversation with Dr. Brooke Bartlett, a military and public safety Psychologist, as well as a nationwide speaker, trainer, consultant. On a more personal level, she is a lover of dogs, heavy metal, sports, and anything outdoors...so JUST LIKE "US." In this episode, Dr. Bartlett talks about how she got involved in this work and the steps she's taken to become certified and culturally competent in the military and first responder space, including in trauma and PTSD. There is so much SCIENCE behind how our bodies and brains respond to things we see, do, and hear...whether we want it to or not. This part of the conversation was fascinating and I truly believe that if we share more of the facts and science or how bodies respond to this type of work...the stigma will lessen. At least that is my hope. Dr. Bartlett talks about how therapy is a COLLABORATIVE approach and both parties must be willing participants in order to heal and move forward. She also talked about PTSD as a spectrum and once you're in the red...there is no time for PREVENTION, it's time for INTERVENTION.This was a great conversation and one that I hope will ease your fears about reaching out and seeking at least a consultation with a therapist. You can check out Dr. Brooke's website, here, and connect with her on Instagram. I love the way she breaks things down in her IG reels. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with one of my favorite people I've met on LinkedIn, Tim Kucerovy. Not only does he boldly challenge the status quo...he is proof that you do NOT have to retire from LE in order to consult with LE agencies. There is value in YOUR experience, in and out of LE that can serve these agencies. Tim started his LE career as a Park Ranger in Alaska, then transitioned to State HighwayPatrol in Montana, then transitioned into Higher Education, and is now a consultant for public safety agencies. You will hear Tim discuss the differences in each role and how even his college degree in natural resources, have all been a progression to get him where he is today. He talks about the different academies he attended and how his mindset was different each time. He understood he was not starting over, but starting from experience and it actually helped him be a better cop. After choosing to leave law enforcement, mid-career, Tim went back to school and got his MBA. He talks about how his time management skills from law enforcement helped him significantly as he balanced work, school, and family. Tim now teaches at a local community college, while running his consulting business, and talks about how the two feed each other...keeping him up to date.One thing that stood out in our conversation, was how important it is to keep learning, keep growing, and knowing when to close a chapter in order to write a new one...FOR YOU and YOUR family.Another thing that I've heard more times than I can count from those CHOOSING to move forward, is how when he turned his resignation in, the comments that came from others..."Some people just aren't meant to be cops." Anytime you choose YOU in this life...people are NOT going to understand that and they are going to project their insecurities and even their jealousy onto you. No one doing more than you will ever judge you. This is the side of LE that is very toxic and the one that paints those bettering themselves as the ones doing the betraying. ALWAYS choose YOU!This is an insightful episode, full of golden nuggets. Make sure to follow Tim on LinkedIn, and reach out to him with any questions you may have about his story or how his business can help your department.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a solo episode and full of some gut punches that have been circling in my mind lately, starting with the title of this episode. You do NOT have to wait until life AFTER law enforcement to have a life OUTSIDE of law enforcement. In fact, I encourage you not to wait! Your career can end tomorrow and if it does, you're going to struggle significantly if you haven't taken the time to build a life outside the job. (ask me how I know)One mindset that screws a lot of cops over, is the "all or nothing" mindset. Life is NOT "all or nothing." You can love the job and love your family. You can be a cop and "Joe." You can be grateful for what you have, while working toward what you want. CHOOSING to build a life outside of law enforcement, WILL come with doubt, questions, hate, and people projecting their insecurities onto you. Do. It. Anyways. Once you choose to find CLARITY on what YOU want, you'll gain the CONFIDENCE to not only take action toward it, but to continue despite what others say.I mention the F.I.T. Method Workbook in this episode, so I want to link it here. Oftentimes, we say we are "fine," but when we take a moment to actually face ourselves...we quickly realize we are more off balance than we thought. THAT is what this workbook helps with. It is for the person feeling stuck. It helps you Face yourself, Identify areas that need work, and Take action.I also mention AK Dozanti and her work in the First Responder burnout space. As a prior LEO herself, she "gets it," and she's done the work to GROW through all she's gone through. You can find all of her connection information, books, and resources, here. I said it at the beginning of this episode and I'll say it here...this episode is NOT about calling you OUT, it is about calling you UP...to the person you say you want to be and the person I KNOW you can be. I've been where you are and still have days where I find myself banging my head on the wall, feeling stuck...but I know that is BS...so this episode is to remind us both...we are NOT alone, we are NOT stuck, and we are NOT "just a cop."If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Chris Perry...a cop's kid, who served for 31 years himself, retired, and started at a new PD with a RENEWED sense of purpose...in a non-traditional role that is changing lives!Chris served a majority of his career with the Cincinnati Police Department and spent time on patrol, the motorcycle unit, narcotics, traffic unit, and the wellness unit. In 2020, he was diagnosed with PTSD and began speaking about it. He talked about what led to the diagnosis and his reckless behavior, just trying to feel SOMETHING. He speaks about his treatment, ways he found to heal, and how speaking to other cops helped him. Chris talked about losing his mom to dementia, which sent him into a depression that almost took his life. His advice to others sitting in the darkness..."Listen to what others are saying." He talks about how his wife knew something wasn't right and was brave enough to talk to him about it. After choosing to retire, Chris was offered an opportunity by another agency that he couldn't turn down. He is now in charge of the Senior Citizen Program for that department and not only works with Alzheimer's/Dementia Associations, he provides dementia training to first responders, and he assists with calls involving those struggling with aging disorders. Chris had so many words of wisdom, but a couple that stood out were, "Vulnerability is the foundation to success," and "Realizing you spent 20 years serving others, it's time to serve YOU."Make sure you connect with Chris on LinkedIn or send him an e-mail at [email protected] you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Stephanie Samuels, the Founder of COPLINE. Just an FYI...there were some technical difficulties throughout, where the Zoom dropped and there will be a few moments of silence.Stephanie is a Psychotherapist who has worked exclusively with cops since the 1990s and is part of a National research team looking into the role concussions play in the mental health of LEOS, as well as the potential connection to suicide.I was BLOWN AWAY by Stephanie and this conversation, and have 3 pages of notes to prove it! You are going to want to listen and take notes. She explains how in the 1980s she debated being a cop, but after riding with LAPD, decided she did not have the courage to do the job...but wanted to support those who do it. She talks about starting to work with cops and what she did to become culturally competent. Sometimes things happen for a reason and even come full circle. For example, in high school, Stephanie was part of a nationwide teen hotline...which is where learned the power of Peer Support...and where she got the idea to start COPLINE.If you don't know, COPLINE is a confidential, international hotline for active/retired cops...and their families...with calls answered by strictly vetted retired cops. Stephanie stated COPLINE receives 250-350 calls a month and when I asked if the hotline was only for those in crisis and considering suicide or also for those struggling with something. She stated 95% of their calls are people just having a bad day...3-3.5% of the calls are after a critical incident, and 1-1.5% of the calls are suicidal.After discussing COPLINE and the incredible resource it is, we dove into research Stephanie has been working on with the Concussion Legacy Foundation, regarding Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE). It was FASCINATING to say the least. "Maybe it's not YOU. Maybe it's your brain." Our brains can take thousands of beatings throughout our lifetimes...including contact sports as children then as cops...not always ending in a concussion, but that does not mean that it should be ignored. You can best connect with Stephanie through the COPLINE website or via her email, [email protected] you are in crisis or having a bad day...you can always reach COPLINE by calling 1-800-267-5463.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with my guy, John Kelly (aka The Law Enforcement Life Coach on social media). John is a Marine Corps veteran and a retired LEO. After 30 years on the job, John turned his experience into resources for those following after him. He is now an author, trainer, podcast host, and National keynote speaker.I've been connected with John for a few years now and was on his podcast a couple of years ago. I just finally got to meet him in person at the Wounded Blue Survival Summit in Las Vegas.John shares about his career and how the job almost cost him everything, a few times. He talks about how we used to police, versus policing today and how when their department was losing an officer a year at the hand of suspects, he was asked to create training to keep officers alive...due to his vast experience in making it out of deadly situations. One of my favorite parts of the conversation was talking about the things we did/do to keep us alive, don't exactly allow us to thrive. That was so relatable. John was a cop who knew the end of his career was coming, for five years due to the DROP program...but didn't start thinking about what was next until about six months out and that created a little bit of a scramble to figure it out. John explains that while talking with his Motor guys, the idea for his Sometimes Heroes Need Help program was born. That gave him the sense of purpose so many miss in life after law enforcement and when he retired...he had a sense of finality because there was no unfinished business. Make sure you follow John on both Instagram and LinkedIn. You can visit his website, here, and listen to his podcast, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailWe are BACK! Thank you so much for being here, I look forward to serving YOU with this new season of the Next Shift Podcast. We have an incredible lineup of guests who have made the transition out of law enforcement, some who've transitioned...then gone back in with fresh perspective, awareness, and purpose...and several clinicians/resources. These stories serve as HOPE for a future outside of law enforcement...something many of us did not know existed. If this podcast has helped YOU in any way...I would love it if you took a moment to leave a rating and review, so others can see that it can also help them. Thank you again for being here!You can also grab your Next Shift and Next Shift Podcast gear, here...and save 20%If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailI CANNOT believe we are wrapping up another season of the Next Shift Podcast! If you had told me in June 2023 that I'd have 3 seasons of a podcast by June 2025...I would not have believed you...but here we are! A HUGE shoutout to all of the incredible guests who have shared their real, raw vulnerable stories on the podcast...giving hope to others, that there is indeed life after law enforcement. This show would NOT be what it is without these guests and without YOU listening. This week's episode is a recap of the TOP 10 episodes, based on downloads. If you haven't listened to these episodes, I encourage you to go listen...they were incredible conversations. The TOP 10 episodes of season 3 are: - S3E2 - Hiding in Plain Sight w/Doug White- S3E4 - Quiet Quitting w/Jackson McLaughlin- S3E3 - The end of an era w/Thomas Goldberg- S3E26 - You'll know when it's time w/Lou Forst- S3E12 - Your questions answered (Life after LE edition) w/me- S3E18 - Never forget where you came from w/Mario Tonzelli- S3E13 - You are the problem, not your salary w/Nick Daugherty- S3E14 - Using your LE skills & Networking w/Valerie Hartman- S3E11 - Lessons from the lounge w/Josh Malczak- S3E7 - Taking control of your health & life w/Kevin MurrayEach one of these episodes are value packed and I guarantee you will see yourself in parts of each story. If this podcast has spoken to you at all or helped you in anyway...I would be so grateful if you took a moment to leave a rating and review, to help get the word out!If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is an emotional reflection of my very first Police Week. In case you missed it, I was able to and honored to attend Police Week, as a partner with T-Priority (T-Mobile's First Responder Solution). It was an incredible week talking with survivors, sharing stories, and honoring our fallen...including my husband and I's friend, Cody...who was killed in the line of duty February 29, 2024.Once I got home, I had to take a couple of days to let it all sink in, then decided to record a podcast and encourage you to take a trip to the National Law Enforcement Memorial and Museum...if not during police week...at some point. We hear about these officers when they're taken from us...but seeing 24,000+ names lining panel after panel of the wall...unlike anything I've ever seen. It was solemn reminder that we are NEVER alone...in life, in loss, and in grief. If you weren't able to catch the videos I filmed with the T-Priority team on LinkedIn, you can catch them, here, and make sure to follow their page to see how they're not only showing up for first responders, but creating solutions for them. I posted more behind-the-scenes footage and reflections of each day on my personal LinkedIn page. If you've ever been to police week...I'd love to hear your reflections through either the text option above, or by you sharing the episode with your network and your reflections as a caption.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a little different, in that it is not an interview with a retired LEO, but a retired LE civilian employee, who spent over 26 years serving his department and community with pride. Roland Clee spent over 26 years in Law Enforcement, as a Community Services Officer in Florida, is the founder of Command Staff Consulting, and Founder/Author of the American Peace Officer Newsletter.Roland's story is a testament to the importance civilian roles play in the everyday operation of police departments. Roland attended an academy to become a Community Services Officer, spent time on Patrol...taking crash report, simple stealings, and reports without suspects, spent time in the Investigations Unit...assisting in homicide cases, spent time as the Chief's right hand man...often sitting in on meetings in the Chief's spot, and sent time in Victim's Services...his favorite role. Toward the end of his career, Roland had a previous Commander, who left to be Chief elsewhere, reach out and offer him work. Roland will never forget that Commander telling him, "Next chapters are the best chapters," and now he shares that message forward anytime he gets the chance. When asked what his purpose is now, Roland shared that it is to stand up for officers and that his passion is to help bring Gen Z into policing. Roland doesn't believe we are facing a recruiting crisis, as much as we are facing a leadership crisis. Make sure you connect with Roland on LinkedIn, here. Please be advised, the conference mentioned at the end of this episode was canceled for this year...but keep an eye out for it coming back around...as it is much needed. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with retired Patrol Captain, Chris Haynes, who served 31 years with the Rutherford County Sheriff's Office.Chris was inspired to become a cop at just 5 or 6 years old, when his uncle would stop by his grandma's house to eat while on duty. After high school, Chris went to college and at just 21 years old, joined the Rutherford County Sheriff's Office. Chris spent time on Patrol, as a Narcotics Investigator, Interdiction Sergeant, promoted to Lieutenant, and ended his career as a Patrol Captain.Toward the end of his career, Chris started to see Admin lose sight of the work Patrol actually does and he did not see eye to eye with a new Sheriff. He put in his paperwork when he felt his heart was no longer in it...passing up the raises that were finally granted. Like so many, Chris thought landing a job post law enforcement would be easy, especially since he knew what experience and skills he brought to the table. He ended up in the Acquisition business, as an RV Park Acquisition Manager and is enjoying life after law enforcement. If you want to learn more about acquisitions or more about Chris's journey, make sure to connect with him on LinkedIn, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Lou Forst, a retired Lieutenant from Newark PD in New Jersey. Lou discusses being born and raised in New Jersey, then spending his entire policing career at Newark PD, in various units like patrol, Vice, Narcotics, Gang, Sergeant on Patrol, IA, and the academy. From 2010 to 2014, Newark had NO new hires, but from 2014-2019 they hired 485 new officers. Lou was a large part of that hiring craze and at the end of it, his boss told him he needed to take a month off, due to built up time. Lou was up for it, as he hadn't taken vacation like that since the 90s, when he got hired on. On the last day of his month long vacation, Lou came to the realization he was ready to retire. He told his wife and when she asked where that idea came from, he recalled an old Lieutenant telling him he would know when it was time. Lou followed his gut and turned in his retirement paperwork, feeling a sense of relief. Lou described the feelings he had as he went 10-42 for the last time, as pride and finality. Like so many cops...he was shocked to find out "retired life" wasn't really for him. A couple of months in and chilling at home, his wife encouraged him to get a job, so he worked at Home Depot as the cart guy. That lasted about five months, but he embraced it and made the most of it...realizing you have to have purpose in the work you're doing. Lou now creates LE curriculum and leads trainings through Penn State University, which fulfills his purpose of giving back to the career he fell in love with.Make sure you connect with LOU on LinkedIn, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Rob Hollingsworth, one of the very first people I sat down with on an Instagram LIVE, to chat about his transition out of Law Enforcement in March 2023. A LOT has happened since that first chat, so we sat down to record an actual podcast episode. Rob is a Navy Veteran and prior LEO turned entrepreneur, who's also a husband and father to three littles. Rob spent a majority of his four years with the Navy deployed overseas and shortly after getting out of the Navy, started his police career with the Henderson, NV PD. After approximately three years, he lateral transferred to Tacoma PD. After approximately three years, children had entered the picture, 2020 happened, and he'd watched co-workers be criminally charged for doing their jobs. He started thinking a 20+ year career was not for him. His wife, although always supportive of his career, even made a comment about she wouldn't mind if he did something else.After approximately one year of thinking about leaving the only job he wanted, he decided he couldn't keep putting his family through what the past few years had been like for LEOs. He and He knew he wasn't a 9-5 type person, and after struggling for 6-12 months, started his first company and has since created several opportunities for himself.Make sure you connect with Rob on LinkedIn and Instagram. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Katie Robert's, a LEOW who received a call no law enforcement spouse wants to receive and has spent the past few years fighting for her husband to not only get the care he deserves after a near fatal crash on duty, but for his disability to be approved. Contrary to what so many think...just because the medical retirement has gone through...the fight is NOT over.This is a video of the crash her husband, Jeremy, was in on his department motorcycle...shared with her permission. It is hard to watch and will serve as a reminder that this job AND this life...could be gone in an instant. Jeremy's life was spared that day and one day, the purpose of all the pain and struggle will be revealed. Katie shares about not only getting the call from a civilian who stopped to help Jeremy, but how she had to find a place for her 5 month old, going to the scene only to find out Jeremy had already been transported, seeing him in the hospital, being judged for not crying enough, realizing the only family you have is the one under YOUR roof, seeing the man you love need help with EVERYTHING, and the BATTLE that is work comp/disability claims and medical retirement. None of the stuff she shares is unique to their story. It is happening EVERY SINGLE DAY, across the country, often leaving those struggling feeling like they are alone. You are NOT alone. This is a process that MUST be fixed, as it only adds insult to injury for these officers who so faithfully serve, yet feel forgotten about and left out to dry by the "family" they were promised in the academy. Every state has their own work comp laws and oftentimes, departments feel their hands are tied when it comes to checking in on those who are off on injury. I encourage you to educate yourself of your state's work comp laws, find out if there is anything special regarding first responders, and if you've fought through the process...take the fight to your local representatives. Department leaders...there is NO rule against checking in on your members while they are off. They are human beings, often facing a combination of mental AND physical injuries, due to the situation. A text, FaceTime, call, or visit can go a LONG way with letting them know they are NOT alone in their time of need. Sergeants...these are YOUR people, no longer taking up a seat in roll call. You see that empty spot EVERY SHIFT. Reach out to check on your people and make sure you're checking on the ones still there...maybe struggling with the absence of their shift mate! ASK your people what they need and how they want to be supported. A little effort goes a LONG way!You can connect with Katie on Instagram, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailIn this week's episode, I share 3 things you must have/do if you are serious about transitioning out of law enforcement and they are based on the NUMEROUS conversations I have each week, with people telling me they are looking to transition and want to know what to do. First things first...I can't answer that, ONLY you can...BUT I will have some questions for you to help you gain some clarity.The first two questions I ask almost every single person who reaches out with a generic message about transitioning and what to do, is...1. WHY do you want to get out of LE? Not the surface level answer...the deep rooted reason why you're choosing to leave this career. 2. WHEN are you looking to make the transition?For the first question...I often get a story about how the department has done x, y, or z to them...or they're just tired of the job being politicized...or how they just don't see themselves going another 15+ years. For the second question...I often get something like, "Yesterday," or ASAP or "I retire next month," or "I don't really have a timeframe in mind." Not only are those first two reasons for leaving (or any variation of something similar) based on EXTERNAL factors...ALL of those answers NEED to be far more specific. If you don't know the DEEP rooted reason why you are leaving law enforcement...you will NEVER make it through the tough shit that comes at you throughout this transition period. You will give up and just stay stuck in the rut you're in. We've all heard the, "a goal without a deadline is just a dream," phrase before...it's TRUE! If you don't set a deadline for yourself, there is no sense of urgency and no incentive to DO THE WORK it takes to make the transition happen. Once you have a SPECIFIC timeframe nailed down...you also need to work on your mindset AND building your network for the future. Our life is only ever as good as our mindset and many of us get pretty jaded, cynical, and burned out prior to leaving. THAT has to be worked on EVERY SINGLE DAY and is much easier to do, when surrounded by the RIGHT people. Far too often, we stay stuck and can't see outside of our reality and current circle/circumstances...but there are 7+ BILLION people in the world! You MUST put yourself out there and in a position to meet these people who you would never otherwise meet. Social media is a GOLD MINE...but ONLY if you allow it to be. Take responsibility for who is allowed in your space, talk about the things that matter to you, build your network full of people who will talk about you in rooms you're not in, to give you opportunities you wouldn't otherwise have.If you're DONE feeling stuck, like you're "Just a cop," and you're SERIOUS about transitioning out of law enforcement THIS year...you NEED to join us in Next Shift Academy and let us help you find tIf you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with John Benjamin Jones. John is a retired Senior Air Marshal and former US Navy combat veteran...as well as the author of A Higher Calling: A biblical guide for first responders, military, and veterans and co-author of the undergraduate textbook, The Fundamentals of Security Management: A Common Sense Approach.John spent almost 30 years in public service and now uses his experiences to be an advocate for first responders and veterans. John endured a lengthly medical retirement process after he was diagnosed with a brain bleed that would not allow him to continue flying. Once his retirement process was complete, John went into the financial industry as a financial services rep and as of the date of this recording, was working on obtaining his RICP certification, which would allow him to also sell insurance. Make sure you connect with John on LinkedIn and check out his website, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThe reflection every cop needs: Identity, Purpose & What’s NextTurning 40 has a way of making you reflect, and in this episode, I’m taking you through my own journey—19 years in and around law enforcement, losing my career at 10 years in due to injury, and spending two years in a dark place before finally figuring out who I was beyond the job...and still figuring it out!If you’ve ever felt lost, stuck, or unsure of what’s next, this episode is for you. I’ll walk you through key exercises to help you:✔️ Evaluate where you are and where YOU actually want to be✔️ Define who you are beyond the badge✔️ Identify the shifts you need to make to build the life you want✔️ Recognize the lessons from your life/career that've shaped youYou don’t have to do this alone. These exercises CAN be hard and can create new concerns for us...but they are worth it! The sooner we become self-aware, the better we get...both on and off the job. We stop seeing obstacles and instead see opportunities!Next Shift Academy is here to support you—because life after law enforcement isn’t the end. It’s a new beginning. Many of us on the inside have been there, done that when it comes to navigating this transition and leaning on self-awareness to get us where we are today. Join us and let us help you become the person you want to be. Take a listen, do the exercises, and if you need a team in your corner, come join us inside Next Shift Academy.I'd love to hear your feedback on these exercises and any lightbulb moments you had! Share the episode to your social media, with your reflections and tag me...or simply message me on social or text the show!If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with Paul Collette, a retired US Probation Officer and Veteran Navy Reservist, who started his career at NYPD and is now an Addiction Recovery Expert. Paul is also a consultant and instructor on sensitive national policy and high risk investigations. Paul shares what it was like to get into NYPD in the early 90s and why he decided to move to to Federal law enforcement, with US Probation. He became a "Sex Offender Specialist" and it eventually took a toll on him and his mental health, as well as his family. Like so many have experienced...when Paul decided to step down after eight years of working with sex offenders due to severe burnout, no one checked in on him and he was shocked. He used the step down in rank to focus on getting his Master's Degree in Addiction Counseling. Paul talks about living and breathing Federal LE and embracing life as an entrepreneur. He didn't know a life like this existed and has been pleasantly surprised at how many skills from LE translated into entrepreneurship.When asked what he thinks his new purpose was, he answered that he wanted to embrace the NEW version of himself and be a guide for others. Make sure to connect with Paul on LinkedIn, here. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a crash course on all things Next Shift Academy. I don't know how I JUST realized I've never broken it down, anywhere other than social media...which may not be seen by more than 10% of my network, EVER...and those on my e-mail list get occasional e-mails about it, so I figured I would break it down here. When I first started doing market research for Next Shift...one of the most common answers to "what would have made the transition easier" and "what resources would have been helpful," were..."others to talk to who had been through it," and "either video trainings or something like an academy."Well, two years later...Next Shift Academy was born and it is not only a place that allows you to network with those who have been there, done that...but also those right alongside you...AND there are LIVE calls each week for us to all come together and learn from/teach each other. You are NOT alone and you are NOT "just a cop," WE are here to remind you of that!There are DAILY posts to encourage reflection and engagement from members, WEEKLY zoom calls called SHIFT Sessions on topics meant to encourage mindset/perspective shifts, BI-WEEKLY power hour calls to work on what you did not make time for throughout the week and have some accountability, and there are MONTHLY week long challenges to encourage you to get out of your comfort zone and create accountability. Next Shift Academy is for anyone looking to transition out of LE within the next year (NOW is the time), those struggling with the transition (making it happen or after/adjusting to civilian life), and even those who want to lay the foundation of what life after LE can look like, NOW and be prepared for the unexpected. You can join us, here.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a reminder to never forget where you come from...you might end up back there...in a NEW way!I loved this chat with Mario Tonzelli, a prior LEO turned Regional VP of Contract Security...who's also a husband and a father. Mario's story is incredible and showcases a full circle career! As a teenager, he worked as a security guard for his current company...then he got into music and eventually fell out of love with it, decided to go the CJ route in college, ended up serving six years as a Capitol Police Officer, then eight years as a Railroad Police Officer, and unexpectedly transitioned out, due to a layoff (with a new baby at home), and is now the Regional VP of his current company.Mario highlights the importance of networking, especially with organizations like ASIS, which helped him land his first role after being laid off, within THREE months! Mario is the epitome of leaning into the discomfort and making shit happen! His resilience shows through in MULTIPLE parts of his story.Mario also talks about the importance of communication and treating your relationship like a partnership, because that is exactly what it is. This transition...planned or not...affects everyone in the family. Make sure you connect with Mario on LinkedIn. If you're looking for a place to network, but aren't even sure what direction to go in, YET...join us in Next Shift Academy and get direct access to those preparing for, going through, and embracing their transition to life after law enforcement. You will not only be able to create genuine connections with other members, making them more willing to introduce you to their networks...you will be able to prepare for and navigate this transition alongside others. You are NOT alone. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailJust because you are struggling or have struggled, doesn't mean you're a failure or you're weak or something is wrong with you. Struggle is part of life and no matter how much we try to avoid it...it WILL catch up to us at some point. Learning how to not just survive, but to THRIVE in life, even THROUGH struggle, is one of the best gifts you can give yourself. And the BEST news...you do NOT have to do it alone. Whether you chose to find people online...like myself or this week's guest, Travis Gribble...or you choose a culturally competent therapist, or check yourself into inpatient treatment or rehab, or you attend a "retreat" to help you work through your struggle...or ALL of those options....YOU ARE NOT ALONE!In this episode, we catch up with Travis to see what he's been up to since his first appearance on the Next Shift Podcast and chat with him about the work he's doing with Boulder Crest Foundation. You can check out his first episode, here.Travis gives a brief intro into who he is and his transition, the work he's done on himself since retiring in 2022, and shares about the Struggle Well experience, put on by Boulder Crest Foundation. He himself has gone through the program and shared that even though he'd done a ton of work on himself/his mind since retiring...he learned so much and has seen significant growth.If you've never heard of Boulder Crest Foundation, you can check them and their various programs out, here. Make sure you follow Travis on Instagram and LinkedIn, where he is always sharing incredible insights and information to serve our brothers and sisters in blue. If you would like Travis to speak at your conference or agency, check out his website, here.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailLast week was the FIRST ever DEBRIEF event for LEO spouses and it was more amazing than I ever thought it could be. Several wives of either current/former LEOs showed up in support of one another and not only shared their stories, but reassured the others that they are NOT alone. This event reinforced that this job takes a toll on more than just the officer, so I wanted to shake things up a bit and share a perspective not often talked about when it comes to the transition to life after LE. This week's chat is with Danika Pfeiffer, the spouse of my very first coaching client EVER, Kory! It was an honor to sit down with her and hear not only what it was like being a LEOW, but approaching the talk about him transitioning out of LE due to her career and a move, and how things are since his transition to the private sector. Danika has been with Kory since college, getting into law enforcement, and now getting out of law enforcement. She is the one who actually found the Next Shift page on Instagram and sent it to him. He reached out, set up a call, signed as a client, did the work, made some sacrifices, and made the transition within about six months of deciding he was leaving. I'm so honored to share Danika's perspective on the transition to life after LE, because it really IS a family affair and takes both/all parties being on board to make it successful. If you are or know a LEOW struggling with feeling alone, the lifestyle, or the transition, please know that you are NOT alone. The next spouse DEBRIEF has not been determined yet...there WILL be one and you can sign up here and the Zoom link will go out the night before the call.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailAddiction does not discriminate. It can take hold of anyone at anytime and this week's episode is proof of that. This week's episode is a chat with Davin Cole, retired LEO from San Fransisco PD, who's career did not end on his terms. Davin suffered an on duty injury, was prescribed opioids for pain, eventually had surgery, functioned at work for years....but off duty, was addicted to the opioids and was drinking on top of his addiction. Davin served for a few years at a Sheriff's Department before moving to SFPD, where he spent a majority of his career in the K-9 unit and got to implement a Homeless outreach program. While Davin was acting LT, he was about to go on vacation with his family and had run out of pills. No one in his family had any and the laws had changed, so the doctor wouldn't refill his prescription yet. Out of desperation to not be withdrawing on his vacation, he robbed a pharmacy and was arrested as he exited. His department picked him up at his house the next day, after he made bail, and took him to inpatient rehab. They also backdated his retirement, so he didn't lose out on it, but it still presented some challenges he didn't expect...like not being able to carry a firearm, due to felon status, and lack of job opportunities. A year after his arrest, he was sentenced to one year in jail and spent 6 months in County lockup.Prior to being sentenced, Davin learned he had undiagnosed CPTSD and depression...which were only exacerbated by his addiction.Make sure you follow Davin on LinkedIn and reach out with any questions about his story or if you're struggling. You are NOT alone. If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Valerie Hartmann, prior Chicago PD turned Threat Investigation Manager for a well known Security Company.What I love about Val's story is that she understood the transition out of law enforcement is a LONG game. Val had enough self-awareness to know that after almost six years of policing in the big city...it was not for her and neither was being stuck on midnights. Instead of getting out of law enforcement all together, she went to a suburb, which she says crated the path for her to get out of law enforcement. She went into an SRO position and conducted numerous threat assessments for just over four years, before taking those skills into the private sector. I have "known" Val for a few years now and have watched her put in the work...networking, resumes, applications, interviews...it was approximately two years of all that before she got the position she is in now. Val is a testament to putting in the work will bring you opportunities and continuing to network, even after landing a new role is crucial. There are opportunities all around us!Make sure to follow Val on LinkedIn and reach out to her with any questions regarding the transition, threat assessments, and/or life in the private sector. If you are feeling stuck and not sure which direction to go...download the FIT Method workbook and take inventory of what your wheel of life looks like, then do the work to work through it. If you feel like life is spiraling and you're not sure how to get out of the spiral, but don't want to work through the workbook and instead feel supported by others who've been there, done that...join us in Next Shift Academy. Try us for a month and see how much better you feel about the future. If you love it, stay...if you don't, feel free to stay and keep putting in the work or cancel your membership. No matter the struggle you're feeling and/or facing...you are NOT alone, you are NOT stuck, and you are NOT "Just a cop," we got you!If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a conversation with Nick Daugherty, retired LEO turned President/Owner of Financial Cop, LLC. Nick is based in the Dallas/Ft Worth area and worked for the Grand Prairie Police Department, where spent 14.5 years full-time and 6 years part-time. Nick spent time as Patrol, SRO, Patrol Sergeant, Fleet Manager, and Training.As you can see from the title, Nick is someone who calls it like he sees it...mostly because he's been there...chasing a salary and living in the OT trap to pay bills. His simple advice to those struggling financially, other than becoming aware that it's YOU and your habits...not the salary that are the problem...is BUDGET, BUDGET, BUDGET.This is an eye opening, thought provoking episode that will challenge you to look at your spending habits and encourage you to take control of your financial wellness...which often alleviates stress in so many other areas of life. You can connect with Nick through his website, Facebook, LinkedIn, and twitter.If you are feeling stuck in a financial rut or in any area of life that is impacted by finances...download the FIT Method workbook and take inventory of what your wheel of life looks like, then do the work to work through it. If you feel like life is spiraling and you're not sure how to get out of the spiral, but don't want to work through the workbook and instead feel supported by others who've been there, done that...join us in Next Shift Academy. Try us for a month and see how much better you feel about the future. If you love it, stay...if you don't, feel free to stay and keep putting in the work or cancel your membership. No matter the struggle you're feeling and/or facing...you are NOT alone, you are NOT stuck, and you are NOT "Just a cop," we got you!If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis was a fun twist to an episode!I have been wanting to do a Q&A episode for awhile now and last week I decided to test the waters to see if there was any interest. I posted a question box in my stories and explained what I was wanting to do, asking for any and all questions my network had for me. I got multiple responses so I went ahead and recorded the episode! Don't worry LinkedIn fam, I'll be posting a poll there next month!I am going to try to record one Q&A episode a month, to make sure YOUR voice is being heard and your questions are being answered. All questions will remain anonymous. This is YOUR podcast, just as much as it is mine....so I want to hear from you about topics you want covered, guests you want to hear from, and questions you have...that as we all know, others probably have as well but aren't willing to ask. Let's keep sharing and growing alongside each other as we work to and through this transition. It's been the greatest honor getting to know you, hear/share your stories, and help you through what you once thought "impossible." If you're ready to get UNSTUCK and feeling like there's no way out, join us in Next Shift Academy. We will help you go from just trying to survive in the chaos and confusion to THRIVING with clarity and confidence as you plan for and prepare for your Next Shift. Take control, TODAY!If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift

Send us Fan MailThis week's episode is a chat with Josh Malczak, a prior LEO turned Sales rep, who is out here sharing lessons learned and insights as to why cops make great salesmen. I "met" Josh on LinkedIn and was instantly drawn to his posts and insights. His "Lessons from the Lounge" posts are what first caught my attention, then as I dug into the content, I found myself shaking my head in agreeance and commenting. Josh spent 16 years as a cop in the Pittsburg, PA area, after becoming obsessed with cops when his mom worked at a local borough and being laid off from a Mill job he was working. Josh worked at two different smaller agencies and built the Taser program from the ground up. He loved being an FTO and understood the huge responsibility it was. He spent time in Community Relations and was head of the Union, responsible for negotiations. Josh also owned his own Detail Shop and when the job plus his business became too much to handle, he left the PD to go all in on his business. Once he was able to go all in on the business, it blew up and someone offered to buy it. After a year or so of thinking about it...he decided to sell his business. He worked sales for a few different companies before landing where he is now. He noted the "red tape" often involved in big companies versus smaller companies.Some things Josh has learned about sales is that they are relationship based...NOT transactional and cops make good salesmen because they're direct communicators who can communicate with anyone, they're direct communicators, and have great organizational/planning skills. Josh suggests that Outside B2B sales is where it's at due to better hours, value, and problem solving.Be sure to follow Josh on LinkedIn and reach out with any questions you have about the transition out of LE and/or getting into sales.If you haven't already...make sure you follow me on LinkedIn and on Instagram at @_nextshift_ AND  @the_jessfloresIf this podcast resonates with you or you feel like it could help someone else, please feel free to share it with them and/or on your social media platforms...but be sure to tag me so I can personally say THANK YOU!Be sure to subscribe by clicking the + sign at the top and if you feel called to do so, I'd love to hear your thoughts in a review. You can NOW wear the mission of The Next Shift Podcast, with merch! Check out our current designs, here.See you Next Shift