The Other Others

The writers and voices of Jeff the Dog and Jack the Platypus from the new animated film "Imagine" ad lib insane backstories for the characters, and in a universe of endless possibilities manage to go to all the worst places, in a high stakes game to see who breaks character first...https://imaginefilm.org

We chickened out on this episode back in October 2024, concerned about violent fascist retribution. But today that's just a regular Tuesday, and all kinds of rough beasts are slouching towards Bethlehem. So we're putting it up - an investigative piece with Pospi (non-binary computer-toucher) bringing receipts for what used to be the 'quiet parts' of the alt-centre in regen tech razzle dazzle. The promise was decentralisation, data sovereignty and distributed governance, but beneath the surface, dark money, dark influence and dark deeds were afoot...The receipts: https://drive.proton.me/urls/GFS11V7KH4#Df2oUMvLSzhLBooks and articles we mention-https://www.beceremonial.com/blog/the-ring-theory-can-support-you-during-a-crisis/https://www.uqp.com.au/books/talkin-up-to-the-white-woman-indigenous-women-and-feminism-20th-anniversary-editionhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53260224-white-tears-brown-scarshttps://centreforexperimentalontology.com/2021/03/22/acceleration-and-time-mina-baek/https://centreforexperimentalontology.com/introduction/introduction-to-the-theory-of-pneuminous-accretions-a-phenomenological-chaos-magickal-ontology/

Yarn with Quan Yeomans from the band Regurgitator, on screenwriting, industrialised music and whether truth-telling still works in a post-truth world.

Abdul Semakula working some magic in Uganda, putting the impala back into Kampala, working with limited resources to redefine what real estate means in communities, regenerating land and clan governance structures using Indigenous systems knowledge.

PK and me might have figured out how to make sustainability goals and regenerative finance work without anybody having to be tricked, guilted or scared into paying the bill. Biomass equity could save the world and make capitalism finally deliver on its broken promises - rising tides lifting all boats, infinite growth and free market miracles.Paul Kearney: https://kearneygroup.com.au/our-story/our-team/

Jack and Tyson from the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab yarning up from a lawstick that carries the principles of kodesign as a method of embedding your work in living systems of signals. Link to the digital twin of the lawstick here:https://vimeo.com/885511741?share=copy

Yarn with JMB trying to make sense of the marketplace of nature-based and Indigenous Knowledge-informed alternative economies and finance, in light of the rapidly changing global landscape at this fraught inflection point in history. Some ideas for hope and altering our theories of change in response to our cataclysmic new reality, pondering Serpent Lore and the brilliant 2024 film that most people missed, Blink Twice. watch trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcmfonGWY4 Imagi-Nation: https://imagi-nation.io/

The Viking Yarns are back! Rune Rasmussen in our most coherent yarn yet. I must have needed the break. I was tired as hell. Anyway, the phrase that sticks out for me is about new-ageism as 'European self-colonising whiteness'. Some deadly Viking serpent Lore as well.

Gabriella Romero and Nkwi Flores from Amazon Andes First Peoples talk about the embassy we're making with eucalypts in diaspora, Indigenous borderwork, kinmaking and migration. And the poxy US elections.

Apologies for so long between episodes. All is explained in this yarn with Kabir Kadre (wounded mystic) and Eric Hekler (former techno-utopian), as we explore the cataclysmic shifting of overton windows, faith and empiricism during the terrifying inflection point of a US election that is destabilizing systems globally.

A wanjau (collective sensemaking yarn) with JMB, Tyson and Josh from IKSLab, tying together 3 years of work in regenerative finance design. How can bioregional, relational economies and currencies be established without being backed by potential extractive activity on the land, or real estate as capital, or the ponzi scheme vacuums of crypto? How can these commons be governed and enjoyed collectively? How can units of value be created to support economies of care and regen knowledge production? What value propositions can work here, and what mechanisms of measurement could be responsive to authentic signals from the land? And how can Indigenous knowledge be embedded safety, with equity kept by communities providing this expertise?

Gumbaynggirr carver Pete McCurley is back to tell a tale of surveillance and sabotage during cultural fire management events, and the way wrong story about 'nature' and 'the wild' is preventing our communities from caring for the land. We talk about our shared inquiry working with invasive species: plant, animal and human to come into good relation and balance with biocultural systems. Turns out you can carve a decent coolamon out of radiata pine...

Walking country, reading the land and the flows and feeling what these sentient systems want to create with us, and it's all fabulous, but we're not listening to women the same way, and the land won't speak to us fully until we get that right.

Rishikes Siva takes biomimicry to the next level with Lunar Punk rhizomatic riffs, and we weave through arboretal IK at the margins of regenerative sexiness, while the brains of Elders are uploaded to the clouds and we wait to see what that rain will look like (while a tiny part of me dies inside). If more than half of that didn't make sense to you, the yarn won't either! Nerds!

Wanted to yarn with Roma, Scots, Native American, Aboriginal, queer, neuro-divergent, unhoused and trans folks about fluid border work facilitating norms of access, and about finding identity in ancestral paths rather than homelands, since global populations are becoming increasingly itinerant. But that panel would be complicated and boring, as most panels and webinars are, so we got all those people in the body of one pluriversal non-binary mongrel sibling who embodies deep time embassy for real-time contexts, Oliver Grove.

Have spears. Will travel.

Emily McAvan queers up our ongoing narratives of embassy and quarantine as kin making rather than exclusion, as we dig deep into the foundational spiritual narratives of Purity, Toxicity, Pollution and Contagion that dominate all policy and practice around the most explosive issues of our time - immigration, medicine and wellness, environmental issues, free speech and media, marriage equality, and those pesky trans kids who think they have a right to piss and play sport.

They say leap and the net appears, but Jack Manning Bancroft at the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab is riffing on some emergent para-financial systems that offer something better to splash into, a soft landing for everyone. It's so crazy it just might work. While there may be no Apple sweat-shop safety nets here, we can all return to identities and investments grounded in place and kin, if we really want to.

Thought experiment: what would it take to naturalise money in the biosphere, in the same way that invasive plants and animals can come into harmony with ecosystems over time and with good custodianship of land? Indigenous folks and allies of The Indigenous Commons, from around the globe: Parul Punjabi Jagdish, Nawi Flores, Abdul Semakula, Suzanna Bowles, Lydia Campbell, Paul Kearney.

Love eggs to you my siblings

Sorry siblings, it's been a while, but I been falling in love again, with my woman. Dougald Hine from the Dark Mountain on how love and ritual are not soft skills in the business of growing seeds of right story from the ruins of empire.

Film review of Wish and Napoleon. Conclusion: revolutions suck.

Paul Kearney from the Kearney group and Jack Manning Bancroft from AIME and IKSLab, who for 3 years have funded and worked on research for a mega-project to resolve multiple catastrophic risks, yarn here to unveil an ambitious plan.

IKSLab setting circle for Wanjau (collective sense-making yarn) around the possibility for global serpent Lores from every continent to inform common agreements on reality and embassy protocols in a post-truth world, sidelining bad faith discourse and holding creation together, together. Hat man snake painted by JMB.

Need an outlet for rage, so I can avoid freaking out and finishing up in handcuffs. So new short segment, angry words and not much thinking.

This one by Quan Yeomans has to get past three hurdles. 1 Spotify AI. 2 You. 3 The blak women who sing the current intro.

Laresa Koslof, an artist with one foot in the Arctic and the other in the Antarctic, and only elusive migratory sandpipers to tell her what is real, makes sense of multipolar unrealities, as truth becomes real and real becomes truth in our new abnormal, forging two video works soon to be exhibited in Benalla Arts in rural Victoria.

Disinformation webinar hosted by the Grata Fund 29 November 2023, with Larissa Baldwin-Roberts, Victoria Fielding, Jackie Turner, and the prick amongst the roses, Tyson Yunkaporta. https://www.gratafund.org.au/misinformation_webinar

A Samurai, a Viking and an Aboriginal fella walk into a bar... and talk about Conan the Barbarian and the West's longing for a homeland mythology.

In the wake of the Australian referendum on a Voice to parliament, Ken from the Anthopocene Transitions Network yarns about the rise of ultra-right disinformation and the potential silver linings of the new abnormal, and the 9 million people who might make a difference if they were half as active as the enemies of the biosphere.

A peek into our wanjau process of collective sense making, applying the Ko-design methodology we've been working on for a couple of years to a textual analysis of medical disinformation.

I've recorded more on this topic (medical disinformation) this month, but the platform AI keeps taking it down - probably because of keywords and the incapacity of machines to know the difference between bunk and debunk. Anyway, my recent research has led me to believe that those radicalised online may be experiencing a similar ontological and psychological condition to displaced Indigenous people, and may benefit from the same treatment protocols Tracey Westerman devised for Aboriginal patients who are heartsick for Country.

Sara Kian Judge, Yuin woman and artist, discusses how autism helps her work with bats and sharks and see things as the Upside Down People do. We decide it's no longer 'too soon' to take the piss out of Steve Irwin, and reflect on taking responsibility for our more destructive batshit behaviours, while allowing Country to nurture our gifts.

Brother Arpad Maksay catches up to reflect on our yarn in my new book, and see where we've grown to since then when in comes to violence, public violence, and what it means to train for violence in service of a community, and whether it is possible to do this without ableism and a little bit of soft eugenics. Brother Arlo Davis drops by at the end to add some more to this, on Native storytelling and governance, and some knowledge he picked up at the latest Alaskan Federation of Natives gathering.

(Double Interrupted) So my friend Tammi Jonas from the Food Sovereignty mob has helped me start reading again and to work on my interrupting problem. I did okay here, and managed to record a whole episode without stepping all over another person's tongue. We talk about peasants and Naomi Klein's book Doppelganger, because she might be coming on our crappy little podcast soon.

Kisani Upward, Gamilaroi woman, is doing some research on Indigenous responses to natural disasters, specifically bushfires, while I work on my bad habit of interrupting (mostly by excusing it as a 'cultural thing')... Kisani convinces me that the feeling of being homesick while you're at home is not a first world problem, but a 'coping with ontological fluidity' thing.

Guy Ritani (Permaqueer activist, Maori science communicator) asks me, "Any whale stuff coming up for you lately?" Hell yes! A hard yarn about radioactive whales, skepticism vs cultural knowledge, what is real vs what is true, trauma, making sense, and discerning between spirit and bullshit. There are conflicts, maintaining both identity and intellectual rigor in this howling red-faced modernity. No apologies for sound quality - don't be such a spoiled techno-brat! Suck it up and pretend it's the 70's again....

There is more to the disinformation being deployed in Australia's referendum (for an Indigenous voice to parliament) than meets the eye. This episode is something of a diatribe. I'm tying together all our true stories of resistance and putting a firewall between them and the fantasies of white supremacists and disgruntled settlers who are co-opting the language and Lore of our ongoing occupation and struggle, to secure our support in extreme libertarian radicalisation and stochastic terrorism in Australia and abroad. These things have been under-reported, and you can't imagine how extensive and pervasive these networks of chaos are.

Tammi Jonas from the Australian Food Sovereignty Network despairs with me a while as we try to figure out why half our friends went crazy over Covid lockdowns and are now marching with white supremacists, promoting soft-eugenics and even calling vaccinated Aboriginal people 'pharma-colonists' who are pursuing genocidal policies against 'heterodox' settlers. AFSA: https://www.pozible.com/project/eating-democracy/comments 

Thought experiment as data collection for a research project conducted by expert on digital writing and AI, Lucinda McKnight. I said I'd only give her my qualitative data in yarn form, on a podcast, and she was keen. It was a good idea, but as usual I ruin everything for everybody with my relentless blakpilling...

The sacred feminine in landscapes rendered profane by moral prudery - we walk these storied paths fearlessly with Manchan Magan in a mythical relation across hemispheres, a vibrant embassy between Ireland and Aboriginal Australia, grieving the loss of Sinead together and celebrating what is emergent in our deadly relation. https://www.instagram.com/p/CvvD9r7tLxn/

Big mixed up yarn with Steph Beck and Ben Knight, Indigenous views on relational economics and logical fallacies, and where the two meet in cults and guru-generated content. How can we tell the difference between good faith and bad faith claims, and who has the right to be heard in this world? (Spoiler: we arrive at the idea that maybe bad faith discourse comes from people who have figured out they can skip meaning-making and go straight to change-making/decision-making by extracting authority from nothing, using logical fallacies as discursive technologies of despair...) Episode art by David McMillan

Pete McCurley, Gumbayngiir wood carver and reluctant blacksmith, makes sense of the cautionary tales we need to find in the Dreaming of metals.

Groovy de-colonial yarn with exo-ethno-botanist Cobi Calyx. Everything from Terra Nullius to Matt Damon.

You're in a proper yarn here, involving you, me, Beckett Carmody, a giant frog, wild cats and a robot. Beckett is finding adaptive Lore to bring cats and weeds into proper relation with place. There may even be room for AI fetuses like language model bots if somebody can tinker with the decision trees a bit. Best yarn ever if you want to learn about proper time, place, story and relation.

Yolande Brown and me are doing voice-work and writing for an animated film, and decided to yarn for a vocal warm-up before studio time. Recorded it just in case we said anything worth sharing. For me it's back-catalogue content, so skip my bits, but Yo says some calming and measured things that are a soothing balm in the world of thinkers and changemakers, that roiling sea of panic and doom and frantic hope.

Carol Sanford drops some pearls for me, you and the world, and offers teasers for her upcoming book, No More Gold Stars. Warning: Suicide and libertarianism themes.

Deconstructing something I wrote in an altered state, which I don't remember writing, and wondering about the benefits and dangers of altered states. Sure, there are moments of genius that have utility, but you should never make decisions from that state, because you have no discernment. I believe that's why ceremony is secret and separate from daily reality, in our culture. Spiritual and secular realities need boundaries, when it comes to cognition and governance.

Anarchists behaving badly. Apologies to the good regen folks who tried to interview Yin Paradies and myself while we belligerently wrecked the joint. Decided to upload it because failures are instructive, and we're in the business of growing knowledge, not followers. Worst parts edited out (incitement, stuff like that). Another way to look at it is that we could kick down the fences settlers build around us, in interviews, debate, real estate, governance - all of it. We just wake up every day and decide not to, for some reason. So, sorry, but also RAAAAGH!

Stuart Cowan from the Buckminster Fuller Institute gives us a master-class yarn on global complexity.