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The Overhaul Podcast
by Preston Lyons
The Overhaul, hosted by Preston Lyons, dives into the tough conversations the fire service needs to address—leadership, culture, accountability, and the personal battles we face behind the scenes. We expose what’s not working, share real stories from the field, and bring forward-thinking solutions to help firefighters lead with purpose and leave the job better than they found it.
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You Don’t Get to Rewrite Your Story-You Earn It Featuring Nichole O'Donnell from The Salty Rookie
Who you were doesn’t define you, but what you do next does.In this episode, firefighter and author Nichole O’Donnell shares her journey from a troubled past to building a career in the fire service. Known as “The Salty Rookie,” Nichole breaks down the reality of growth, discipline, and what it takes to earn your place in a profession built on standards.This conversation goes beyond surface-level motivation. It covers resilience, accountability, and the challenge of building a reputation—both in the firehouse and on social media, while staying authentic to who you are.Nichole also shares lessons from writing her book, navigating criticism, and representing women in the fire service without lowering the standard.Key Takeaways:Why your past doesn’t define you—but your actions doThe role of discipline and consistency in personal growthNavigating adversity and building resilience in the fire serviceThe impact of social media on your professional reputationHow to build a personal brand without losing authenticityBreaking stereotypes while maintaining high performance standardsWhy leadership starts with accountabilityThis episode is a direct look at what it means to take ownership of your story, and back it up with action.
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You Know What to Do, So Why Aren’t You Doing It? | Josh Banks
Most firefighters don’t have a knowledge problem; they have an execution problem.In this episode, Josh Banks breaks down what actually drives performance in the fire service: accountability, training consistency, and the ability to execute under pressure. This conversation covers leadership, fitness, decision-making, and the realities of balancing work and family life.From real-world training in gear to documenting performance and making fast decisions on the fireground, Josh emphasizes that growth comes from action, not intention.This isn’t about doing more. It’s about doing what matters, consistently.Key Takeaways:Why failing is a necessary part of growthThe importance of continuous training—especially outside your departmentHow to improve decision-making in high-pressure environmentsWhy accountability and documentation matter more than you thinkThe role of fitness and nutrition in fireground performanceHow to balance family life with the demands of the jobWhy execution—not knowledge—separates professionalIf you want to perform at a higher level in the fire service, this episode will challenge how you approach training, discipline, and daily standards.
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Leadership Isn’t a Rank—It’s a Responsibility featuring Jason Hoevelmann
What separates average leaders from those who actually move the fire service forward?In this episode, Chief Jason Hoevelmann breaks down the reality of leadership in today’s fire service—where expectations are high, pressure is constant, and leaders are never truly off the clock.Drawing from decades of experience and national-level instruction, Chief Hoevelmann shares practical insights on mentorship, leadership development, and building a culture that produces strong company officers and resilient teams.This conversation focuses on what leadership actually requires: continuous learning, accountability, and the ability to influence people at every level of the organization.Why leadership is a responsibility—not a positionThe critical role mentorship plays in firefighter developmentHow to build a culture that supports growth and accountabilityStrategies for new company officers navigating leadership challengesThe importance of adapting leadership styles across generationsHow to address conflict, toxicity, and complacency in the firehouseWhy continuous learning is non-negotiable for leadersIf you’re serious about leadership in the fire service, this episode provides a clear standard for what it takes.Key Takeaways:
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Pressure Is a Privilege | Faith, Family, and Fire Service Leadership – Josh Bourque
What happens when pressure isn’t something you avoid—but something you chase?In this episode, firefighter and Mississippi Smoke Diver Josh Bourque breaks down what it means to live up to a legacy while building your own identity in the fire service. As a second-generation firefighter, Josh shares the weight of expectation, the responsibility of the job, and the role faith and family play in keeping everything aligned.This conversation goes beyond surface-level leadership talk. It gets into mental toughness, discipline, and the internal standards required to build a culture of excellence—starting with yourself.Josh makes it clear: pressure is not the enemy. It’s the proving ground.Key Takeaways:Why faith should anchor your identity—not your jobThe reality of growing up in a fire service legacyHow pressure can either break you or build youWhat Smoke Diver training teaches about mental toughnessWhy training hard is a responsibility, not an optionHow to lead without rank or titleThe connection between personal standards and firehouse cultureIf you’re serious about the job, this episode will challenge how you think about leadership, discipline, and what it means to be a professional firefighter.
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"The Little Things Mean the Most" Featuring Adam Patterson
What does real leadership in the fire service actually look like?In this episode, Battalion Chief Adam Patterson breaks down the realities of leadership beyond the rank—where mental health, family, and brotherhood all collide. This isn’t theory. Adam shares lessons from his transition into command, the weight of responsibility, and the importance of staying grounded as a husband, father, and leader. From navigating difficult conversations to building a culture of accountability, this conversation focuses on what actually moves the needle inside a firehouse.The truth is simple: the little things matter. The way you show up, communicate, and support your people will define your leadership far more than any tactic ever will.Key Takeaways:Why family support is non-negotiable in the fire serviceThe role of mental health and disconnecting from the jobHow strong brotherhood carries crews through tragedyLeadership through humility, accountability, and consistencyWhy mentorship is critical for the next generationHow to handle conflict without losing credibilityThe power of positivity in high-stress environmentsThis episode is a direct look at what it means to lead with intention—on the fireground, in the station, and at home.
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Sobriety, Leadership & Calculated Aggression in the Fire Service | Justin Carter
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, host Preston Lyons sits down with firefighter Justin Carter to discuss leadership, sobriety, mentorship, and the culture of the fire service.Justin shares his personal journey navigating identity beyond the badge, his path to sobriety, and the lessons he’s learned through mentorship and leadership in the firehouse.The conversation explores the balance between aggressive firefighting and calculated decision-making, the importance of developing experience on the fireground, and why the fire service must prioritize both mental health and servant leadership.Justin also discusses the mission behind his podcast The Carter Mentality, which highlights powerful stories from individuals inside and outside the fire service who are striving to grow, lead, and serve their communities.This episode is a candid discussion about firefighter identity, leadership development, mentorship culture, and the responsibility of the modern firefighter to grow both personally and professionally.
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Bonus Episode: Inside the March Mayhem – Podclass Experience
In this bonus episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Preston Lyons sits down with Preston Goldstein to break down one of the most anticipated firefighter training events in the country — March Mayhem Fire Conference.We discuss what makes March Mayhem such a powerful gathering for firefighters and first responders: world-class instructors, hands-on training, meaningful conversations, and a culture that pushes the craft forward.From engine company operations and truck work to leadership panels and mentorship opportunities, this episode gives listeners a preview of the training, speakers, and experiences waiting for firefighters attending the conference.We also talk about the Podclass, live podcast coverage of the event, and why conferences like March Mayhem are critical for strengthening the fire service community.If you care about improving your department, building relationships in the fire service, and learning from some of the best firefighters in the country, this conversation is for you.Firehouse Vigilancehttps://firehousevigilance.comNational Fire Radiohttps://nationalfireradio.comAmbassadors of the Crafthttps://ambassadorsofthecraft.comCandice Ashbyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/candiceashbyKevin Fluger – Dagum Cadrehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfluggerPeople and Organizations Mentioned
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From Complacency to Commitment | Chris “Dragon” Scott on Training, Mentorship & Staying in Love with the Fire Service
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, host Preston Lyons sits down with firefighter Chris “Dragon” Scott to talk about the journey from complacency to commitment in the fire service.Chris shares the honest story of how he went from being overweight and disconnected from the job to becoming deeply passionate about training, mentorship, and building a culture of improvement within his department.The conversation dives into the impact that conferences and mentorship can have on a firefighter’s career, the reality of imposter syndrome among high performers, and the importance of saying “yes” to opportunities that force growth.Chris also explains the origins of his nickname “Dragon,” the lessons he learned launching his podcast, and how firefighters can quietly influence culture and change inside their own departments—even when they don’t hold rank.This episode is about staying in love with the job, building strong crews, and leaving the fire service better than you found it.If you’re a firefighter looking to improve your craft, influence your department, or reconnect with the mission of the job, this conversation will resonate.
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You’re Not Just Tired — You’re Dysregulated: Haley Scellick Explains Why
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Preston Lyons sits down with Haley Scellick, nurse practitioner and co-founder of First Responder Health and Wellness, to address a hard truth: many first responders are operating in chronic stress and calling it “normal.”Haley explains how fatigue, poor sleep, mood swings, weight gain, and declining performance are often early signs of hormonal imbalance and stress dysregulation — not just part of the job. She breaks down cardiovascular risk in the fire service, the impact of shift work on hormones, and why proactive lab work and individualized care matter.The conversation challenges the reactive culture of “wait until something breaks” and replaces it with a preventative, data-driven approach to health. From nutrition and sleep hygiene to stress physiology and telemedicine solutions, this episode is a blueprint for protecting your longevity — both in your career and at home.If you’re serious about staying strong, sharp, and present for your family, this conversation matters.
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Go or No-Go? Engine Company Tactics, Fire Behavior & Building Better Firefighters | featuring Jay Bonnifield
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Preston Lyons sits down with Captain Jay Bonnifield of the Everett Fire Department for a deep dive into what actually shapes a great firefighter and officer.Jay shares the personal side first—overcoming academic struggles, repeatedly testing to get hired, and the sacrifices his wife and family made along the way. From there, the conversation transitions into what truly separates competent firefighters from dangerous ones: decision-making under pressure.They break down:The go/no-go process on the residential firegroundWhy understanding fire behavior is non-negotiableExterior vs. interior attack through the lens of survivabilityThe responsibilities of the nozzleman during rescue operationsWhy live fire training is critical to developing intuitionThe importance of post-knockdown discipline and proceduresHow mentorship and frameworks build instinct before the fire ever happensJay emphasizes that great fireground performance isn’t about heroics—it’s about hierarchy, clarity, and repetition. The officers and firefighters who operate calmly under stress do so because they’ve built a framework that guides their decisions.This episode is about family, discipline, fire dynamics, and the responsibility to raise the standard in the fire service.
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First Things First: Faith, Family, and Finding Your Fire Again | Helton Pereira
What happens when you chase the American dream… and end up chasing purpose instead?In this episode, Helton Pereira shares his powerful journey from Brazil to becoming a firefighter in the United States. But this isn’t just a story about career progression — it’s about alignment. Faith. Family. Mentorship. And learning to put first things first.Helton opens up about navigating burnout, rediscovering passion for the job, and building a marriage and home life that thrives alongside the demands of the fire service. He speaks candidly about the importance of fostering a positive firehouse culture, mentoring the next generation, and leading by example—not just in turnout gear, but in everyday life.We also dive into Helton’s upcoming First Things First Conference, designed to strengthen community, character, and connection within the fire service.If you’ve ever felt the weight of the job, struggled to balance career and family, or questioned how to sustain passion long-term, this conversation is for you.Because the job matters.But the order matters more.
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Breathe Under Pressure: From the Mats to the Fireground with Danny Massa
In this engaging conversation, Preston Lyons and Daniel Massa explore the intersections of personal growth, martial arts, and firefighting. They discuss Daniel's upbringing in the Bronx, his experiences with bullying, and how martial arts helped him build confidence. The conversation transitions into Daniel's journey into the fire service, highlighting the importance of family legacy and the integration of martial arts into firefighting. They also delve into the significance of breath work in managing stress and enhancing performance in high-pressure situations. In this conversation, Daniel Massa shares his journey into breathwork, highlighting its transformative effects on mental health, performance, and overall well-being. He discusses the importance of proper breathing techniques, especially for firefighters and first responders, and how breath control can significantly impact stress management and emergency response. The dialogue also touches on the mechanics of breathing, the role of the diaphragm, and practical exercises to improve breath efficiency. Massa emphasizes the community aspect of breathwork and its potential to aid those dealing with PTSD and other mental health challenges.
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Brotherhood, Business, and the Cost of Growth featuring Jeremy Barker, founder of Murphy Door
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Preston Lyons interviews Jeremy Barker, a former firefighter turned successful entrepreneur. Jeremy shares his journey from living in his car to building Murphy Door, a leading hidden door brand. He discusses the importance of family support, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and the unique dynamics of brotherhood in the fire service. The conversation delves into mindset shifts, resilience, and the lessons learned from failure, emphasizing that true freedom comes from overcoming challenges and pursuing personal growth. In this conversation, Jeremy Barker shares his journey from being a firefighter to becoming a successful entrepreneur. He emphasizes the importance of valuing one's worth, the discipline required in business, and the significance of setting big goals. The discussion also touches on the mental health challenges faced by firefighters, the power of kindness, and the value of learning from all walks of life. Jeremy encourages listeners to pursue their entrepreneurial dreams while maintaining a servant's heart and a focus on community.
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From the Teams to the Teddy Bear: A Navy SEAL’s Descent, Recovery, and the Power of Connection. Featuring Dr. Tony Dice
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Dr. Tony Dice shares his remarkable journey from a challenging childhood to becoming a firefighter, EMT, and ultimately a Navy SEAL. He discusses the struggles with addiction that followed his military service and the challenges of transitioning to civilian life. Dr. Dice's story highlights the importance of resilience, the impact of mental health, and the journey to recovery, culminating in a powerful message of hope and transformation. In this conversation, Dr. Dice shares his profound journey from addiction to recovery, emphasizing the importance of connection, storytelling, and resilience. He discusses the pivotal moments that led him to become a therapist and how he now helps others navigate their own struggles with addiction. The dialogue explores the holistic approach to recovery, the significance of community support, and the transformative power of sharing personal experiences. Dr. Dice encourages listeners to reach out for help and highlights that recovery is a journey that can lead to a fulfilling life beyond addiction.
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Built to Last With Jenny Grima – Wellness, Mental Toughness, and Fire Service Longevity
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, host Preston Lyons speaks with newly promoted Lieutenant Jenny Grima, who shares her unique journey from a biology major to a firefighter. Jenny discusses the challenges she faced in the fire service, the importance of maintaining a work-life balance, and how she turned failures into opportunities for growth. She emphasizes the significance of mental health and personal time, and reflects on her experiences teaching and mentoring others in the field. The conversation highlights the evolving nature of the fire service and the need for continuous learning and adaptation. In this conversation, Jenny Grima shares her journey in the fire service, discussing the challenges she faced as a female firefighter, including doubts, imposter syndrome, and the importance of mentorship. She emphasizes the significance of mental toughness, self-care, and finding a supportive community. Jenny also highlights her holistic approach to wellness and the transformative impact of programs like 75 Hard on her life. Ultimately, she encourages others to pursue their passions and find their tribe.
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The Fire Service Will Outlast Us — Will It Be Better Because You Were Here?
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Preston Lyons reflects on the past year, discusses the evolution of the podcast from Relentless Rejects to The Overhaul, and emphasizes the importance of personal growth, mentorship, and legacy in the fire service. He shares his vision for 2026 and the collective effort needed to improve the culture and leadership within the fire service community.
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The American Fire Service has Thorns featuring Jake Dickes from Sons of Irons
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Captain Jake Dickes shares his journey in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of family, faith, and community. He discusses the challenges of promotion, the need for positive leadership, and the significance of realistic training. Dix highlights the role of passion in firefighting and the necessity of addressing negativity within the firehouse. He concludes with a powerful analogy about the goat head plant, illustrating the multifaceted approach needed to foster a positive culture in the fire service.
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Safety in firefighting is about preparation, not avoidance, featuring Chris Wessels
This episode of the Overhaul podcast features a deep dive into the life and career of Chief Chris Wessels, exploring his 34-year journey in the fire service, the importance of family, and the lessons learned along the way. The conversation touches on leadership, mentorship, and the balance between aggression and safety in firefighting.
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The Quest for Sleep Optimization Featuring Dr. Leah Kaylor
In this episode of the Overhaul podcast, Preston Lyons speaks with Dr. Leah Kaylor, a psychologist specializing in sleep hygiene for first responders and military veterans. They discuss the importance of sleep, its connection to mental health, and practical strategies to improve sleep quality. Dr. Kaylor shares her journey into sleep psychology, the challenges first responders face with sleep, and the significance of establishing a consistent sleep routine. The conversation emphasizes the need for awareness of sleep issues and the impact of lifestyle choices on sleep quality.
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The Pod Class Experience featuring Michael "Stickers" Goldstein
In this engaging conversation, Preston Lyons and Mike Stickers Goldstein discuss their upcoming participation in the March Mayhem conference, focusing on the importance of networking, learning, and collaboration in the fire service. They delve into the unique experiences offered by pod classes, the value of live fire training, and the significance of overcoming ego in a training environment. The discussion highlights the need for diverse training opportunities and the importance of mentorship and community within the firefighting profession. In this engaging conversation, the hosts delve into the critical aspects of firefighting, emphasizing the importance of firefighter IQ, fitness, and innovative training techniques. They discuss the unique challenges faced by rural firefighters and the significance of rapid intervention teams. The conversation also highlights the need for specialized training for engineers and the evolving nature of fire ground operations, particularly in high-rise buildings. Networking and community building within the firefighting profession are underscored as essential elements for success and growth.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Conference Excitement02:38 The Pod Class Experience06:35 Networking and Learning Opportunities10:51 Instructor Highlights and Class Expectations14:32 Hands-On Training and Live Fire Experiences20:22 The Importance of Failure in Learning24:58 Ego and Comfort in Learning Environments30:00 Instructor Interactions and Building Connections31:13 Hot Classes and Training Fundamentals33:52 Gaining Confidence for Fireground Success36:06 Training and Gear Responsibility38:04 The Importance of Communication with Departments41:03 Embracing Knowledge Transfer in Fire Training41:52 The Role of Thermal Imaging in Firefighting42:59 Understanding Live Fire Training Classes44:18 The Dagum Promise: A Commitment to Rescue47:47 Mastering Basic Skills for Fireground Incidents49:05 Developing Firefighter IQ Beyond the Door50:34 Fitness and Health in Firefighting52:12 The Reality of Rural Firefighting55:33 The Importance of Engineer Training01:01:11 Rural Fire Tactics and Limited Staffing01:03:20 Embracing Challenges and Growth01:04:14 Essential Training for Modern Firefighting01:06:25 Innovative Approaches to Fire Operations01:08:16 Understanding Standpipe Operations01:10:30 The Importance of Primary Search Techniques01:14:01 Data-Driven Training for Firefighters01:19:43 Leveraging Social Media for Firefighter Education01:25:08 Final Thoughts and Conference Insights
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The Mata Fuego Way. featuring Felix Manjarrez
SummaryIn this episode of the Overall Podcast, host Preston Lyons speaks with Felix Manjarrez, a seasoned firefighter with 23 years of experience in the FDNY. They discuss Felix's journey into the fire service, the evolution of his motivations, the culture of brotherhood within firefighting, and the challenges faced in the 911 system. The conversation also touches on the importance of mental health, managing burnout, and the role of jiu-jitsu in enhancing physical fitness and mental resilience for firefighters. Felix shares his candid views on diversity and inclusion in the fire service, emphasizing the need for competence over mere representation. In this conversation, Felix Manjarrez discusses the critical role of the Health and Fitness Unit in the fire academy, emphasizing the importance of physical training, functional skills training, and the impact of mentorship on probationary firefighters. He shares insights on managing stress, prioritizing sleep, and the significance of nutrition and hydration for first responders. Felix also highlights the need for community building within the firehouse and the importance of down-regulation techniques to improve overall well-being. He advocates for holistic approaches to health, including the use of THC and CBD for recovery, and encourages firefighters to make proactive changes in their lives to enhance their performance and longevity in the field.https://matafuegotraining.com/
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Brotherhood starts in the Firehouse, featuring Chief Eddie Robinson
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Chief Eddie Robinson shares his extensive experience in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of commitment, family, and legacy. He discusses the significance of brotherhood and how it starts within the firehouse, as well as the challenges of navigating generational differences in the workforce. Chief Robinson advocates for an aggressive firefighting culture and emphasizes the importance of accountability among team members. He also highlights the importance of leadership and the responsibility of fire chiefs to be present and engaged with their teams. The conversation concludes with a focus on rebranding the fire department to foster a positive culture and community impact.
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The Check Engine Light Concept, featuring Rob Wilson
In this episode of the Overhaul podcast, Preston Lyons speaks with Rob Wilson, a performance educator who specializes in training first responders and military personnel. They discuss the importance of self-care and performance longevity in high-stress professions, such as firefighting. Rob introduces the 'Check Engine Light' analogy to help first responders recognize personal health signals and emphasizes the need for a culture of wellness within the fire service. The conversation also addresses the challenges faced by younger generations of first responders, the balance between physical strength and cardiovascular fitness, and the importance of monitoring health indicators to prevent catastrophic performance failures. In this conversation, Rob Wilson discusses the importance of managing stress and health risks, particularly for first responders. He emphasizes the need for long-term health strategies, building a personal health toolkit, and creating supportive systems within communities. The discussion also covers effective decompression techniques and the significance of fostering a culture of encouragement and accountability among peers.
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The Awakening Moment, feat. Andrew Johnston
In this episode of The Overhaul, host Preston Lyons of Relentless Rejects sits down with Andrew Johnston to dive into the heart of what makes great firefighters—and great leaders. From the lessons learned at the LCC Fire School to the importance of building strong relationships, Andrew opens up about the challenges of leadership, navigating imposter syndrome, and how staying grounded can make all the difference.And because leadership isn’t just about tactics and titles, Preston and Andrew also bring in some inspiration from an unlikely coach: Ted Lasso. Expect a mix of fire service grit, honest reflection, and a little humor to keep things real.Tune in for a conversation that’s equal parts training, leadership, and personal growth—with insights you can carry back to the firehouse and beyond.
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Flow and Vent with Rob Policht
In this episode of the Overhaul podcast, host Preston Lyons from the Relentless Rejects engages with Rob Policht, a company officer and founder of Flow and Vant. They discuss the importance of family support in the fire service, Rob's unexpected journey into firefighting, and the unique challenges of leadership, especially during crises like COVID-19. The conversation emphasizes the need for continuous learning, credibility, and accountability in leadership roles, as well as the significance of playing the long game in career development and fostering a supportive firehouse culture. In this engaging conversation, Rob and Preston delve into the themes of legacy, communication, and the importance of promoting a strong firehouse culture. They discuss the significance of training and the evolution of Flow Invent, emphasizing the need for firefighters to seize every opportunity and to consider their impact on the community. The dialogue highlights the balance between personal growth and collective responsibility within the fire service.
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The Great Ones featuring Todd Edwards
In this episode of The Overhaul Podcast, host Preston Lyons from the Relentless Rejects engages with Captain Todd Edwards, a seasoned fire service professional, discussing the importance of family support, continuous learning, and the challenges of company officer development. They explore the evolving nature of fire service conferences, the critical role of company officers in shaping future firefighters, and the need for effective training for acting officers. The conversation emphasizes the traits that distinguish great company officers, including humility, communication skills, and an understanding of their crew's personal lives. In this conversation, Todd discusses his leadership philosophy in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of trust, humility, and realistic training. He highlights common mistakes made by company officers, such as the blame game and arrogance, and stresses the need for a strong crew identity built through consistent training. Todd also elaborates on the significance of command presence and how it is developed through experience and training, ultimately reinforcing the positive impact firefighters have on their communities.
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The Path to Legacy, featuring Chief Brian Brush
In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, host Preston Lyons engages with Chief Brian Brush, discussing the importance of family, community, and brotherhood in the fire service. They explore the need for a positive shift in mindset, the significance of education and training, and the challenges of recruitment. Chief Brush shares insights on building a search culture, understanding NFPA standards, and the impact of health on firefighters. The conversation emphasizes the importance of legacy and continuous improvement in the fire service.
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Episode 56: We Can Love People Well, featuring Blake Stinnett from Next Rung
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston Lyons discusses the importance of mental health in the fire service with Blake Stinnett, co-founder of Next Rung, and the initiatives taken to support first responders. They delve into personal stories, the impact of family, and the mission of Next Rung to provide peer support and resources for mental health. The conversation also explores community engagement through podcasts and events, such as Bearers of the Oath, highlighting the importance of a supportive network within the fire service. In this conversation, Blake Stinnett shares his insights on the importance of brotherhood, mission-minded culture, and leadership within the fire service. He discusses his personal journey through a life-altering accident, emphasizing the resilience and support from the community that helped him recover. The dialogue underscores the importance of intentional relationships among firefighters and the significance of mental health awareness within the profession..
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Episode 55: Pressure is a Privilege, featuring Ryan Scellick from Young Officers on Fire
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston Lyons and guest Ryan Sellick discuss the importance of mentorship, training, and the differences between fire service and law enforcement training. They explore the challenges of mastering skills in the fire service, the psychological aspects of training under stress, and the need for focused skill development. Sellick emphasizes the importance of feedback and coaching in helping firefighters improve their skills and decision-making abilities. In this conversation, Ryan Scellick discusses the importance of mastering firefighting skills, the critical role of company officers in mentoring recruits, and the need for psychological safety within the fire service. He emphasizes the significance of mentorship and the mission-driven mindset required for effective firefighting. The discussion also touches on the Young Officers on Fire initiative, which aims to foster leadership and development among young firefighters.
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Episode 54: Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit featuring Austin Beier
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston Lyons speaks with Austin Beier, a dedicated firefighter and co-founder of the Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit. They discuss the challenges of balancing family life with a demanding career in the fire service, the importance of mentorship and networking, and the differences between paid and volunteer firefighters. Austin shares his journey into the fire service, the significance of ongoing training and education, and the goals for the upcoming Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit. The conversation highlights the importance of passion, commitment, and community support in the fire service.
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Episode 53: Accountability from the Street featuring Chief Candace Ashby
In this episode, Chief Candace Ashby shares her extensive experience in the fire service, discussing the importance of communication, leadership, and problem-solving within fire departments. She emphasizes the need for trust between administration and operations, the challenges faced by firefighters, and the common issues that plague organizations. Through her Boss Series, she aims to foster better leadership and accountability in the fire service, advocating for a bottom-up approach to leadership that empowers firefighters to voice their concerns and solutions. In this conversation, Candace Ashby discusses the complexities of leadership within the fire service, emphasizing the need for proper training and accountability at all levels. She emphasizes the significance of company officers in shaping organizational culture and the importance of peer accountability in combating negativity. Ashby also contrasts management and leadership, advocating for a balance between the two to foster a positive work environment. She demonstrates her commitment to investing in her team through training and morale-boosting initiatives, illustrating how proactive leadership can promote a healthier organizational culture. In this conversation, Candace Ashby discusses her unorthodox approach to leadership in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of accountability, mentorship, and personal development. She shares her experiences in fostering a positive culture within her battalion, highlighting the need for open communication and constructive feedback. Ashby also addresses the challenges of leadership, the significance of continuous learning, and the responsibility of individuals to improve themselves and their organizations. Her passion for helping others and leaving a positive legacy in the fire service is evident throughout the discussion.
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Episode 52: The Underdogs featuring Donovan Carasco from Coyote Fire Training
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston Lyons speaks with Donovan Carasco, a Texas firefighter, about his journey in the fire service, the importance of family support, and the challenges of transitioning between departments. They discuss the significance of department culture, the impact of test anxiety on performance, and the passion for truck work. Donovan shares insights on founding Coyote Fire Training and navigating the politics of fire training, emphasizing the need for humility and kindness in the fire service. In this conversation, Donovan Carasco and Preston discuss the importance of building relationships within the fire service, continuous learning, and balancing family life with training commitments. They emphasize the significance of customer service in firefighting and the generational divide that affects the culture and practices within fire departments. The dialogue highlights the need for mentorship and the value of learning from experienced and newer firefighters. In this conversation, Donovan Carrasco and Preston discuss the balance between adhering to policies and applying common sense in firefighting. They emphasize the importance of adaptability on the fire ground, the value of networking and building relationships within the fire service, and the innovations in training equipment that enhance firefighter skills. The discussion also highlights the significance of mentorship and brotherhood among firefighters, culminating in a call to action for motivation and leadership within departments.
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Episode 51: "It's okay to have bad days" featuring Chip Ashford
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects Podcast, host Preston Lyons and guest Chip Ashford discuss various themes surrounding the fire service, including family dynamics, the legacy of firefighting, the importance of firehouse culture, and the challenges faced by firefighters in balancing work and family life. Chip shares his experiences as a second-generation firefighter, the significance of mentorship, and the need for training and community support. The conversation also delves into the evolving nature of firehouse culture and the importance of bridging generational gaps to foster a positive environment. In this conversation, Chip Ashford discusses various aspects of fire service culture, focusing on the importance of rescue operations, the need for a victims-first mindset, and the significance of training and leadership in creating a positive fire department culture. He emphasizes the role of external training, the necessity of setting expectations from day one, and the importance of reinforcing the 'why' behind the job. The conversation also touches on the challenges of balancing safety with an aggressive firefighting mindset and the lessons learned from near-miss incidents. In this conversation, Chip Ashford discusses the critical importance of safety culture in the fire service, emphasizing the need for training and decision-making in high-stress situations. He shares insights on mental health and coping mechanisms, highlighting the significance of peer support and finding balance in personal and professional life. The discussion culminates in reflecting on resilience and the importance of being there for one another in the fire service community.
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Episode 49: Black Hat Behavior Featuring Josh Watt
In this episode, Preston and Josh discuss the importance of mental health resources for first responders, emphasizing the need for support systems within families and the fire service. They explore the challenges of balancing work and family life, coping mechanisms, and the impact of mental health on firefighters. The conversation also highlights the significance of mentorship and informal leadership, advocating for a supportive firehouse culture that encourages open discussions about mental health. In this conversation, J. Watt discusses the significance of self-motivation in the fire service, the balance between being respected and liked as a leader, and the importance of fostering a culture of self-starting among firefighters. He emphasizes the need for community over branding, the impact of passionate teaching, and the responsibility of firefighters to do the right thing for their crews and the civilians they serve.
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Str8 UP Episode 2: "The Warrior Mindset in Firefighting" With John Chambliss
In this episode of the Straight Up Podcast, hosts Relentless Rejects and John Chambliss discuss the importance of a warrior mindset in the fire service, the impact of leadership on morale, and the challenges of promotions based on testing rather than experience. They emphasize the need for strong support from administration and the value of audience-driven content in their podcast. The conversation also touches on the significance of social media in shaping perceptions within the fire community. In this conversation, John and Relentless Rejects discuss the critical importance of maintaining high standards within the fire service, emphasizing accountability, training, and mentorship. They explore the need for a disciplined approach to emergency response, the significance of being prepared and familiar with gear, and the value of personal growth through challenges. The dialogue highlights the necessity of fostering a culture of support and motivation among firefighters to ensure safety and efficiency on the job.
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Episode 48: "Passing the torch, 72 Years of Firefighting Wisdom" featuring Dylan Clark and Edward "Pop Pop' Porter
This conversation features a heartfelt interview between Dylan Clark and his grandfather, Edward Porter, who has dedicated 72 years to public service, including significant time in the fire service. They discuss the evolution of firefighting, memorable experiences, and the importance of legacy in the fire service. Dylan shares his journey and the influence of his grandfather on his career, while Ed reflects on his early days in firefighting and law enforcement. The conversation highlights the challenges and changes in the fire service over the decades, as well as the personal stories that shape their experiences. In this engaging conversation, Preston and Dylan Clark explore the multifaceted aspects of leadership, respect, professionalism, and mental health within the fire service. They discuss the evolution of leadership styles across generations, the importance of earning respect through actions and appearance, and the critical need for mental health awareness among first responders. Dylan shares personal experiences and lessons learned from his extensive career, emphasizing the significance of training, taking action, and maintaining professionalism. The dialogue culminates in a heartfelt reflection on the legacy of firefighting and the importance of passing on knowledge to future generations.
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Episode 47: Staying True to Yourself featuring Eric Wheaton
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, Preston and Sean engage in a deep conversation with Chief Eric Wheaton about various aspects of firefighting, family dynamics, and personal growth. They discuss the importance of mental health resources for first responders, the challenges of balancing family life with a demanding career, and the generational differences in how firefighters share their experiences. Chief Wheaton emphasizes the significance of raising resilient children, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, and the value of being comfortable with discomfort. The conversation also touches on the philosophy of chasing excellence over promotions, the role of social media in recruitment, and the importance of building a strong truck culture within fire departments. In this conversation, Eric Wheaton shares his experiences and insights from his firefighting career, discussing the importance of teamwork, effective tactics, and the value of mentorship. He recounts real-life rescue stories that highlight the unpredictability of fire alarms and the necessity of being prepared for any situation. Eric also addresses the challenges of imposter syndrome and the significance of staying true to oneself in the fire service. He reflects on his involvement with ULFSRI, the creation of the Book of Mentors, and his aspirations for life after retirement, emphasizing the importance of family and personal fulfillment.Link to the fundraiser from podcast. If you’re willing and able! https://www.theyardfoundation.org/mayday/laramies-hero-help-dylan-schilt-overcome-his-injuries?fbclid=IwY2xjawIzMrVleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHYasccvnuHkbusj6vx4C3hKSRWYW36n3gG1ZCXpSalwy0RhozIKMH6crMA_aem_6FHdCxyX5q77dBNdTClnvg
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Episode 46: The Heart of Firefighting: Family and Mentorship, featuring Sean Dorobiala
SummaryIn this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host and firefighter enthusiast Preston Lyons speaks with Sean Dorobiala, a fellow firefighter from Colorado. They discuss the importance of family support in the demanding fire service, Sean's unique path to becoming a firefighter, the significance of mentorship in personal and professional growth, and the vital role of camaraderie and culture within firehouses. The conversation highlights the challenges and rewards of balancing work and family life, the impact of mentors like Rob Fisher, and the necessity of fostering a supportive and engaging environment in the fire service. In this conversation, Dorbs and Preston delve into the significance of firehouse culture, emphasizing the importance of family dynamics and mental health within the fire service. They discuss the challenges faced by roving firefighters and the impact of consistent crew relationships on mental well-being. The conversation also highlights the role of the F.O.O.L.S. organization in fostering a supportive community for firefighters. Dorbs shares his passion for teaching and mentorship, stressing the need for a commitment to learning and the importance of aggressive firefighting tactics. They conclude by discussing the value of attending conferences for networking and professional growth. In this engaging conversation, Dorbs and Preston explore the significance of conferences in the fire service, the importance of personal development, and the influence of passionate leaders. They discuss the dangers of modern fires, the need for continuous learning, and the value of investing in oneself. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of community, mentorship, and the unwavering commitment to the fire service oath.
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Str8 Talk Episode 1 featuring John Chambliss
In this episode, Preston discusses the critical importance of mental health in the fire service, emphasizing the need for real conversations, overcoming failure, and building a supportive culture with John Chambliss from 48 STR8 Supplements. They explore the impact of tragedy on brotherhood, the difference between motivation and discipline, and the significance of creating a safe environment for firefighters. The conversation highlights the necessity of building relationships and community within the firehouse to enhance mental well-being and performance. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the importance of pride in the fire service, the impact of criticism, and the need for effective training for the next generation of firefighters. They emphasize the significance of real talk with leadership, transparency, and the necessity of self-care and mental health awareness. The discussion also highlights the importance of building a supportive culture within the fire service to foster growth and motivation among firefighters.
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Episode 45: The Non-Traditional Truck Company featuring Captain Arthur Ashley from Street Smart Tactics
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, Captain Arthur Ashley shares his extensive experience in the fire service, discussing the importance of mental health resources for first responders, the significance of family, and the transition into retirement. He emphasizes the need for a strong mindset and training in firefighting, the critical role of leadership and company officers, and the unique responsibilities of truck companies. The conversation also touches on the importance of confidence versus cockiness in the field and the value of teaching and mentorship in shaping the next generation of firefighters. In this conversation, Arthur Ashley shares his insights on the realities of firefighting, the importance of mentorship, and the need for effective training. He discusses the risks associated with the job, the significance of understanding time and opportunity in emergency situations, and the concept of a non-traditional truck company. Arthur emphasizes the importance of community, accountability, and mental health awareness within the fire service, encouraging firefighters to seek help and continuously improve their skills.
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Episode 44: Rising from the Ashes: The Journey of Jeremy Sanders
In this episode, Jeremy Sanders discusses his journey with Crew 1st Culture, emphasizing the importance of family, mentorship, and building a supportive tribe. He shares personal experiences of vulnerability, resilience, and the challenges he faced in the fire service, including a significant demotion. Jeremy reflects on the concept of the Phoenix, symbolizing rebirth and growth through adversity, and encourages listeners to embrace their stories and support one another.
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Episode 43: The Relentless Fire Wife, featuring Kellie Lyons
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host and firefighter Preston Lyons interviews his wife, Kellie Lyons, about their journey together, the challenges of being married to a firefighter, and the importance of communication and balance. They discuss Kellie's career as a Physician Assistant, the impact of Preston's job on their family life, and the mental health challenges that come with the profession. The conversation emphasizes the need for understanding and support between partners, especially in high-stress careers like firefighting and healthcare. This conversation delves into the complexities of mental health, work culture, and personal fulfillment within the firefighting profession. The speakers share their experiences with saying no, navigating toxic environments, and the importance of community and networking outside their department. They also discuss the challenges of balancing work and family life, particularly during the pregnancy and NICU experience of their child, highlighting the emotional and physical toll of their professions. In this conversation, the hosts delve into the complexities of navigating parenthood, particularly through the lens of their NICU experience. They discuss the importance of support systems, the evolution of personal identities as parents, and the challenges of balancing career aspirations with family responsibilities. The conversation emphasizes the need for open communication, understanding of mental health issues, and the unique dynamics faced by spouses of firefighters. Ultimately, they highlight the significance of partnership and mutual support in overcoming life's challenges together.
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Episode 42: "New Levels, New Devils"
Summary In this conversation, Preston reflects on the year 2024, discussing personal growth, the importance of learning from mistakes, and the evolution of the fire service. He emphasizes the significance of facing criticism, setting goals for 2025, and building a supportive community. The discussion highlights the challenges firefighters face and the need for continuous improvement and resilience in their careers.
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Episode 41: The Brotherhood of Firefighters: More Than Just a Job. Featuring Brian McRee
In this episode of the Rejects Podcast, Preston interviews Brian McRee, a firefighter from a combination department in Georgia. They discuss Brian's journey from the military to the fire service, the importance of brotherhood and training, and the impact of personal loss on his perspective of firefighting. Brian shares his experiences with accountability in the fire service, the need for aggressive training, and the importance of building traditions in a young department. The conversation emphasizes the need for firefighters to prioritize public safety over personal safety and to hold each other accountable for their actions. In this conversation, Preston and Brian discuss the evolution of firefighter training, emphasizing the importance of realistic scenarios and hands-on experiences. They explore the significance of brotherhood within the fire service, highlighting how it can be fostered through shared experiences and mentorship. Brian shares insights into his department's growth and aspirations, aiming for a stronger, more capable team. The discussion also touches on the challenges faced by new generations in maintaining the brotherhood and the calling of the fire service.
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Episode 40: "Quit hiding behind that mask" featuring the Unmasked Firemen
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston engages in a dynamic conversation with the Unmasked Firemen, a group of passionate firefighters from Atlanta. They discuss their journeys into the fire service, the importance of fitness and accountability, and the mission behind their platform aimed at inspiring younger firefighters. The conversation highlights the challenges of overcoming imposter syndrome, the significance of a supportive community, and the need for honesty and transparency in the fire service culture. In this conversation, the hosts discuss the importance of fitness culture within the fire service, emphasizing the need for leading by example and fostering a strong firehouse culture. They explore the role of leadership in creating a supportive environment, the distinction between training and working out, and the value of embracing failure as a learning opportunity. The discussion also touches on the significance of the Smoke Diver program and the evolution of their platform, Unmasked Firemen, highlighting the importance of transparency and community engagement.
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Episode 39: "Craftsmanship is not a crime!" Featuring Kevin Housley from FF Craftsmanship
In this episode, Preston and Captain Kevin Housley discuss the importance of family, relationships, and mental health in the firefighting profession. Kevin shares his journey into firefighting, emphasizing the significance of human performance psychology and resilience. They explore proactive steps firefighters can take to foster a healthy work environment and the role of training and teaching in personal and professional growth. The conversation highlights the need for a cultural shift in the fire service to prioritize mental health and well-being. In this conversation, Kevin and Preston explore the importance of humor in training, the evolution of coaching styles, and the significance of creating a culture of continuous learning within the fire service. They discuss the role of human performance psychology in enhancing firefighter effectiveness and the need for instructors to engage with their students meaningfully. The conversation also touches on the challenges of navigating holiday stress and the importance of mental health awareness in emergency services. Kevin shares insights from his experiences and the development of the Firefighter Craftsmanship platform, emphasizing the need for ongoing education and support in the field.
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Episode 38: "Forgiveness and Grace for the fire service" featuring Matt Ballard from Free Burn 2023
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston speaks with Matt Ballard, a seasoned paramedic and founder of Freeburn 2023. They delve into Matt's journey through the fire service, his struggles with mental health, and the importance of peer support and community resources. Matt shares his experiences with trauma, the stigma surrounding mental health in first responders, and the transformative power of EMDR therapy. The conversation emphasizes the need for open dialogue, understanding, and support among first responders to combat the rising rates of suicide and mental health issues in the field.
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Episode 37: The After Action Report: Overcoming challenges as an acting/out-of-class officer
In this conversation, Preston discusses the challenges faced by acting officers in the fire service, particularly when working in a culture that does not align with their personal standards and motivations. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining personal standards, leading by example, and finding ways to motivate others in a crew that may not share the same drive. The conversation highlights the need for resilience and the continuous pursuit of personal and professional growth, even in challenging environments. #firefighterpodcast #firefighter #leadershipdevelopment #personaldevelopment
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Episode 36: Transforming Pain into Purpose, featuring Steve (Stewie) Stawecki
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston engages with guest Stewie Stawecki, discussing their personal journeys in the fire service, the importance of training, accountability, and the impact of family support. They reflect on the evolution of the fire service post-9/11, the significance of mastering the basics, and the value of networking through conferences. Stewie shares his experiences, lessons learned from real-life scenarios, and how he transformed challenges into opportunities for growth and mentorship. In this engaging conversation, Stewie and Preston explore the evolution of learning in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of networking, mentorship, and adapting techniques. They discuss funding opportunities for training in Michigan, the significance of building relationships within the community, and the impact of influential figures in the fire service. The dialogue highlights the need for open-mindedness and passion for the job, encouraging firefighters to embrace their roles and support one another.
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Episode 35: The Heart of Firefighting: Family and Support, featuring Michael Ramirez
This conversation with Preston and Michael Ramirez delves into the experiences and challenges faced by firefighters, emphasizing the importance of community, support, and mental health. The speakers share personal anecdotes, discuss career paths, and reflect on the VFAMM, devotionals, and 75 Hard. They highlight the significance of training, networking, and personal growth within the profession, ultimately fostering a sense of camaraderie and shared understanding among firefighters.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Overhaul, hosted by Preston Lyons, dives into the tough conversations the fire service needs to address—leadership, culture, accountability, and the personal battles we face behind the scenes. We expose what’s not working, share real stories from the field, and bring forward-thinking solutions to help firefighters lead with purpose and leave the job better than they found it.
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Preston Lyons
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