The People Teaching People Podcast

What can students teach us about learning? As educators, parents, leaders, coaches, and mentors, we spend a lot of time thinking about how people learn. We design learning experiences. We create opportunities for growth. We look for ways to support, motivate, and engage others. But how often do we pause and ask learners themselves what learning actually feels like from their side of the experience? A few weeks ago, I had the opportunity to spend the morning with three Grade 7 classes at the Calgary French & International School as part of their DaVinci Days program. I was invited to introduce students to the world of podcasting, and as part of the session, I asked them to help me plan a future episode of The People Teaching People Podcast. The focus of that episode was a simple question: What can adults learn about teaching and learning from students? Their responses were thoughtful, honest, insightful, and sometimes surprising. As I read through them afterward, I realized the students weren’t simply answering questions about school. They were offering a window into what it feels like to be a learner today. They shared ideas about what helps them learn, what gets in the way, what they wish adults better understood, and what learning looks and feels like from their perspective. Some responses made me smile. Some made me pause. And – some reminded me of things that can be easy for adults to forget.   Listen in as we talk about: 02:27 Student voice and learning 05:25 Learning from student perspectives 07:20 Meaningful learning experiences  11:11 Understanding today’s students 15:05 Lessons beyond the classroom 17:42 Listening to student voices 19:31 Learning goes both ways 21:05 The wisdom of student voices 22:03 The power of connection   Learn more about the Canadian French & International School (CFIS):  Website: https://www.cfis.com/ LinkedIn: Calgary French & International School  Instagram: @yycfrench Facebook: @CalgaryFrenchandInternationalSchool   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   STUDENT VOICE AND LEARNING My visit to the Calgary French & International School’s DaVinci Days program was more than a conversation about podcasting. As part of the session, Grade 7 students helped plan this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast by sharing their thoughts on learning, school, and what they wish adults better understood about students today. Their honest and thoughtful responses offered a valuable window into the learner experience and set the stage for a conversation about teaching, learning, and the importance of listening to student voices. Sometimes the people closest to the learning experience have the most important perspectives to share.   LEARNING FROM STUDENT PERSPECTIVES The students’ responses were thoughtful, honest, insightful, and sometimes surprising. As I reflected on their comments afterward, I realized they were doing much more than answering questions about school. They were sharing their experiences, frustrations, hopes, observations, and ideas about learning. Some responses made me smile, some made me pause, and some reminded me of things that can be easy for adults to forget. Their reflections served as a powerful reminder that meaningful learning happens when we take the time to listen to perspectives that are different from our own. When we create space for people to share their experiences, we often discover there is just as much to learn as there is to teach.   MEANINGFUL LEARNING EXPERIENCES When students were asked what they would change about learning, a clear message emerged: they were not asking for less learning, they were asking for different learning. Many students spoke about wanting fewer tests, more projects, greater flexibility, and more opportunities for hands-on, interactive learning. They emphasized the importance of engaging with ideas through discussion, movement, creativity, and real-world application rather than simply listening or memorizing information. What stood out most was the thoughtfulness behind their suggestions. Students questioned whether grades and tests always reflect true understanding and highlighted the reality that learners have different strengths, needs, and ways of processing information. Rather than lowering expectations, they were encouraging adults to think more deeply about how learning happens and what helps it feel meaningful. Their responses serve as a reminder that engagement is not an extra feature of learning. It is often an essential part of it. The most powerful learning experiences are often those that create space for curiosity, participation, and diverse ways of demonstrating understanding.   UNDERSTANDING TODAY’S STUDENTS As I continued reading through the students’ responses, I realized they were trying to communicate something that extended far beyond classrooms, assignments, and grades. They wanted adults to understand their reality. Many spoke about growing up in a world shaped by social media, constant connectivity, changing expectations, and pressures that previous generations may not fully recognize. They reminded us that young people are navigating complex challenges, balancing academics, relationships, extracurricular commitments, mental health, and uncertainty about the future, all while trying to discover who they are. More than anything, the students expressed a desire to be seen and understood as individuals rather than assumptions. They wanted their experiences, emotions, and perspectives to be taken seriously and their voices to be heard before conclusions were made about them. Their reflections highlighted the importance of relationships, empathy, and taking the time to understand the person behind the learner. Whether in classrooms, families, workplaces, or communities, people thrive when they feel known, valued, and understood. Sometimes the most meaningful thing we can offer another person is not advice or solutions, but genuine understanding.   DESIGNING MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCES Joanna reflects on how creating the seamless Taste the City experience that people now enjoy actually began with plenty of trial and error. In the early days, timing issues, confused restaurants, and missed text messages made the experience feel far less polished than it does today. What stands out is the amount of care, learning, and intentionality that has gone into refining every detail over time. Joanna shares how important it is that guests feel guided, supported, and connected throughout the evening, not just through the food itself, but through thoughtful pacing, interactive elements, and small moments of surprise along the way. Rather than focusing only on logistics, Joanna and Melissa continue to think deeply about how people feel during the experience and how to make the night feel personal, engaging, and human. Their story is such a good reminder that meaningful experiences rarely begin perfectly, but they grow stronger through curiosity, listening, and a willingness to keep improving.     LESSONS BEYOND THE CLASSROOM “Learning and understanding are more important than grades.” ~ CFIS Grade 7 Student As I reflected on the students’ responses, I noticed that many of their ideas connected to themes that extend far beyond school. They spoke about growth, perspective, balance, well-being, and the importance of recognizing that people bring different strengths, experiences, and ways of seeing the world. Their comments highlighted a level of wisdom and self-awareness that many adults continue to explore throughout their lives, from focusing on personal growth rather than comparison to valuing understanding over grades and recognizing that intelligence takes many forms. The students also challenged adults to consider perspectives beyond their own. They reminded us that different experiences create different insights and that meaningful learning can happen in both directions when we are willing to listen. Their reflections reinforced the importance of balancing achievement with well-being and recognizing that success is about more than outcomes alone. Learning, growth, relationships, and mental health are deeply connected, and when one is overlooked, the others are affected as well. The most important lessons are often not about what we learn, but how we understand ourselves and others along the way.   LISTENING TO STUDENT VOICES A common message emerged from the students’ responses. They wanted learning to feel meaningful, engaging, and connected to their lives. They spoke about the value of creativity, interaction, and active participation, emphasizing that learning is most powerful when it captures curiosity and invites learners to be part of the experience. Their comments reinforced the idea that they were not asking adults to make learning easier. They were asking adults to make learning matter. At the heart of their responses was a deeper desire to be understood. The students spoke openly about the pressures they face, the complexity of growing up in today’s world, and the importance of having their experiences, perspectives, and emotions taken seriously. More than solutions or certainty, they seemed to be asking for adults to listen, to be curious, and to take the time to understand the people behind the learning. The students’ message was clear: understanding the person behind the learner matters just as much as the learning itself.   LEARNING GOES BOTH WAYS As I reflect on my morning at the Calgary French & International School, I can’t help but appreciate the full-circle nature of the experience. I arrived to talk about podcasting and invited students to think like podcasters by helping me plan a future episode of The People Teaching People Podcast. While I expected their ideas to shape the conversation, I had no way of knowing which comments would stay with me long after the session ended. Their honesty, insight, and self-awareness offered a powerful reminder that young people often understand far more about their own learning experiences than adults realize. In many ways, the students embodied the very idea at the heart of this podcast: learning is never a one-way street. When we create opportunities for people to share their perspectives, ask thoughtful questions, and genuinely listen to one another, learning becomes something we build together. The students may have helped create the episode, but they also reminded me that every person, regardless of age, has something valuable to teach and something new to learn. The strongest learning communities are built on curiosity, conversation, and a willingness to learn from one another.   THE WISDOM OF STUDENT VOICES The students’ ideas, experiences, and reflections became the foundation for this episode, offering insights that were thoughtful, honest, and often surprisingly profound. Some comments made me smile, some made me pause, and others challenged me to think differently about teaching and learning. What stood out most was the reminder that wisdom is not tied to age, credentials, or experience alone. Valuable insights can come from anyone who is willing to share their perspective and lived experience. The students’ reflections also reinforced the importance of creating opportunities for people to be heard. By asking questions, listening with curiosity, and making space for different perspectives, we open ourselves to new understanding. Their responses remind us that learning is not something that flows in only one direction. It is something we build together through conversation, connection, and a willingness to learn from one another. Wisdom often emerges when we take the time to truly listen.   THE POWER OF CONNECTION This experience was made possible through a series of meaningful connections. From the Grade 7 students who generously shared their perspectives, to the Calgary French & International School community that welcomed the opportunity for learning and conversation, to Lisa Webb whose earlier appearance on the podcast ultimately led to this experience, each person played a role in shaping the episode. Together, they demonstrate how learning often grows through relationships, curiosity, and a willingness to engage with one another. A single conversation can create opportunities, spark new ideas, and lead to experiences that continue to teach us long after they are over.

What if the best way to reconnect with your city, and each other, started with food? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Joanna Pariseau and Melissa Ninaber, the co-founders behind Taste the City, the experiential food platform transforming how people explore local restaurants, neighborhoods, and human connection. Joanna and Melissa share the story of a friendship that began in grade one, the lessons they’ve learned building a business together, and how authenticity, storytelling, and community have become the foundation of their growth. From turning down a deal on Dragon’s Den to building a brand with millions of organic views, they open up about entrepreneurship, creativity, social media, resilience, and why being willing to look “cringe” might actually be the key to building something meaningful. This episode is a reminder that learning doesn’t only happen in classrooms. Sometimes it happens while walking through a city, sharing a meal, trying something new, or taking a chance on yourself before you feel ready.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Joanna and Melissa’s story 04:00 Connection and community through food 09:12 Being kindred spirits since grade one! 13:15 The Taste the City experience 19:19 How Taste the City is so much more than just food 21:00 Technology with a human touch 24:10 Designing meaningful experiences 26:36 Why storytelling matters more than ever in business 34:49 Building relationships with restaurants and local communities 38:40 Learning from great teachers 42:27 The power of friendship in entrepreneurship 47:08 Why the best way to learn is simply to start   Connect with Joanna and Melissa and learn more about Taste the City: LinkedIn: Taste the City  Joanna Pariseau Melissa Ninaber Website: Taste the City https://www.tastethecity.ca/ Instagram:  Taste the City: @tastethecity__  Joanna Pariseau @thetastyceo Melissa Ninaber: @melissajoyliving Facebook: @tastethecityapp TikTok: @tastethecity__   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   CONNECTION AND COMMUNITY THROUGH FOOD Joanna and Melissa share how their passion for connection and community comes from very different experiences that ultimately meet around food. Joanna talks about studying urban spaces, digital technology, and sustainable tourism. She became fascinated by how experiences can transform spaces into places where people feel connected. Her travels in Italy and frustration trying to navigate local food culture on her own sparked the idea for Taste the City. It became a way to help people discover local restaurants and reconnect with their neighborhoods through guided food experiences. For Melissa, the inspiration is deeply personal. Growing up in a home where everyone was welcomed around the table, she saw firsthand how food could create comfort, belonging, and conversation across differences. Together, Melissa and Joanna have explored the beauty of using technology not to separate people, but to bring people face to face again. Through Taste the City, they help people explore their cities, support local businesses, and share meaningful experiences together. It is a reminder that even in a divided and busy world, simple human experiences, like sharing a meal, still have the power to bring people together.   BEING KINDRED SPIRITS SINCE GRADE ONE! Joanna and Melissa talk about the rare kind of friendship that begins in childhood and somehow keeps growing through every stage of life. Although Melissa moved away in grade two and they never lived in the same city again, they stayed connected as pen pals and remained close through the years. Their stories about childhood memories, shared humor, prank calls, music discoveries, and feeling a little different from everyone else paint such a vivid picture of the connection they formed from such a young age. What stands out most is how deeply rooted their friendship is in shared values, trust, and character alignment. Joanna shares that working together as co-founders felt less complicated because they already knew each other so well and genuinely wanted the best for one another. Their story is such a beautiful reminder that some friendships do not just stay with us through life, they continue to grow alongside us and can even become part of building something meaningful together.   HOW TASTE THE CITY IS SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST FOOD Joanna shares that Taste the City is about much more than discovering new restaurants. At the heart of the experience is a deeper desire to help people reconnect with their city and the neighborhoods around them. She talks about how walking between restaurants creates more vibrant and welcoming streets while encouraging people to slow down, explore, and notice places they may have otherwise passed by. What stands out is how intentionally the experience is designed, from supporting local businesses to motivating people to spend time downtown.. Joanna also reflects on how something as simple as a short walk between stops can support both connection and wellbeing. Experiences can help people feel more connected not only to one another, but also to the communities and spaces they live in.   TECHNOLOGY WITH A HUMAN TOUCH Joanna shares how Taste the City has expanded beyond Calgary and is now helping people explore communities across Canada, from Vancouver and Toronto to Victoria and Edmonton. What excites her most is the next phase of the business, which focuses on partnering with local food bloggers, influencers, and people who truly know the stories and hidden gems within their own cities. Rather than relying only on algorithms or generic recommendations, Joanna wants to create space for local voices and lived experience to guide people toward meaningful food experiences. She also talks about wanting technology to support human connection rather than replace it. While AI and tech can help with systems and operations, Joanna believes there is still something deeply important about real people sharing real experiences, stories, and recommendations. It is a reminder that even in a world filled with technology, people are still searching for experiences that feel personal, authentic, and human.   DESIGNING MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCES Joanna reflects on how creating the seamless Taste the City experience that people now enjoy actually began with plenty of trial and error. In the early days, timing issues, confused restaurants, and missed text messages made the experience feel far less polished than it does today. What stands out is the amount of care, learning, and intentionality that has gone into refining every detail over time. Joanna shares how important it is that guests feel guided, supported, and connected throughout the evening, not just through the food itself, but through thoughtful pacing, interactive elements, and small moments of surprise along the way. Rather than focusing only on logistics, Joanna and Melissa continue to think deeply about how people feel during the experience and how to make the night feel personal, engaging, and human. Their story is such a good reminder that meaningful experiences rarely begin perfectly, but they grow stronger through curiosity, listening, and a willingness to keep improving.   WHY STORYTELLING MATTERS MORE THAN EVER IN BUSINESS “Your story is the most important and the most interesting thing about your business.” – Melissa Ninaber Melissa and Joanna talk openly about what it really looks like to build a business online in today’s world. Melissa shares that while products and ideas matter, it is ultimately the story behind a business that draws people in and creates connection. She reflects on the importance of showing both the exciting moments and the messy parts of the journey, from failed videos and constant experimentation on social media to difficult business decisions like turning down a Dragons’ Den deal that did not align with their long-term vision. Joanna adds that building Taste the City through social media and content creation has pushed her far outside her comfort zone, especially as someone who never imagined becoming the public face of a business. Together, they speak honestly about the criticism that can come with putting yourself out there and the courage it takes to keep showing up anyway. What stands out most is their willingness to stay grounded in their values, trust their instincts, and keep learning as they go. Their story is such a powerful reminder that growth often begins the moment we stop worrying so much about what other people might think.   BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH RESTAURANTS AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES Joanna shares that one of the biggest learning curves has been introducing a completely new concept to restaurants and helping them understand how Taste the City fits into what they already do. Early on, she discovered that how she described the business mattered just as much as the business itself. Over time, she learned how to communicate the value more clearly and build relationships that made it easy for restaurants to say yes. What stands out most is her willingness to experiment, adapt, and try new approaches as Taste the City expands into new communities. Whether she is refining her pitch, introducing restaurants to the concept in creative ways, or finding solutions when plans change, Joanna approaches each challenge with curiosity and a willingness to learn. Her experience is a reminder that strong partnerships are built through relationships, trust, and a genuine commitment to creating value for everyone involved.   LEARNING FROM GREAT TEACHERS When asked about teachers who have had a lasting impact on their lives, both Joanna and Melissa immediately point to people who believed in them, challenged them, and helped them grow. Joanna shares how a university professor became an important mentor in the early days of Taste the City, offering advice, making connections, and encouraging her through challenges that helped shape the business. Melissa reflects on the influence of her father, an entrepreneur whose energy, optimism, and willingness to take risks shaped the way she approaches both business and life. Although their stories are very different, both highlight the power of having someone who sees potential in you and encourages you to keep moving forward. Their reflections are a reminder that some of the most meaningful learning happens through relationships, and that great teachers can be found in classrooms, workplaces, families, and everyday life.   THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP IN ENTREPRENEURSHIP When reflecting on what they are most proud of, both Joanna and Melissa come back to the same thing: their partnership. Joanna shares that choosing Melissa as her co-founder has been the best business decision she has ever made. She credits much of Taste the City’s growth and success to the unique strengths they each bring to the business and the trust they have built over a lifetime of friendship. Melissa reflects on the risks they have taken, the difficult decisions they have faced, and the resilience they have developed along the way. She also speaks openly about navigating a season of personal hardship while building the business and the support Joanna provided during that time. What stands out throughout their reflections is that Taste the City is about much more than food, technology, or business growth. At its heart is a partnership rooted in friendship, shared values, and a genuine belief in one another. Their story is a powerful reminder that success is often less about what we build and more about who we build it with.   WHY THE BEST WAY TO LEARN IS SIMPLY TO START “Learning is so important for the sake of learning, but you have to want to try and  do something with the learning.” ~ Joanna Pariseau Joanna reflects on returning to university during a difficult season of life and discovering that learning is most meaningful when it is driven by genuine curiosity. She shares how a class project focused on revitalizing Calgary’s downtown eventually became the foundation for Taste the City, reminding us that we never know where our learning might lead. Melissa encourages people to stop waiting for the perfect moment and simply begin. For her, the greatest lessons come through doing, trying, failing, and trying again. Together, Joanna and Melissa highlight the importance of staying curious, embracing growth, and taking action even when the outcome is uncertain. Their message is a simple but powerful one: you do not need to have everything figured out before you begin. Sometimes the learning, the opportunities, and the magic happen because you were willing to take the first step.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

What’s a question that’s stayed with you longer than expected? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I explore the idea that questions are more than just part of conversation… They shape how we think, how we connect, and how we experience learning. From the questions we ask in the moment to the ones we design with intention, this episode is an invitation to notice the role questions are already playing in your work and your day-to-day interactions. Through reflections from my podcast, my time in the classroom, and my work at the ARIS Hub, I share how even small shifts in how we ask questions can create more space for thinking, connection, and understanding. Because sometimes, it’s not the answer that changes things… It’s the question.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 More than “just” questions 03:39 Designing questions in learning 05:07 The power of how we ask 07:35 Questions as listening 09:24 Curiosity in practice 10:18 Creating space for responses 11:52 When questions take time 13:35 Creating a space where questions are welcome 13:58 Questions beyond the classroom 17:17 A question to carry   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    MORE THAN JUST QUESTIONS Questions are part of almost every interaction, but it’s easy to overlook just how much they’re shaping what’s happening beneath the surface. They don’t just move a conversation along. They guide attention, influence what people notice, and shape how understanding begins to take form. When you slow down and really look at them, you start to see that questions are doing far more than simply filling space. Shifting from thinking about questions as right or wrong to thinking about them as intentional or unintentional opens up a different way of approaching them. It invites you to consider not just what you’re asking, but how it’s landing and what it’s making possible for someone else. Even small shifts in that awareness can change how someone experiences learning.   DESIGNING QUESTIONS IN LEARNING Questions don’t always have to be created in the moment. They can be thoughtfully designed as part of a learning experience, helping to guide someone from where they are toward a deeper understanding. When there is a clear question at the centre, it gives direction. It creates a sense of purpose that helps everything else connect. From there, questions can build in a way that supports how people move through the learning. They help connect ideas, invite application, and create opportunities for people to make meaning in their own way. Instead of learning feeling like a series of disconnected pieces, it begins to feel like something that is unfolding. When questions are designed with intention, they help shift learning from something people receive into something they actively take part in.   THE POWER OF HOW WE ASK “Questions don’t just gather information. They shape how people feel in the learning and how deeply they engage with it.” The way a question is asked can completely change how it feels to respond. A small shift in wording can move something from feeling heavy or evaluative to something that feels open and supportive. These moments can seem subtle, but they have a real impact on how someone engages. Questions don’t just gather information. They shape how people feel in the moment and how willing they are to step into the learning. When a question is grounded in curiosity and care, it creates space for people to think out loud, to share ideas, and to stay engaged a little longer. The experience becomes less about getting it right and more about working through it.   QUESTIONS AS LISTENING There’s a connection between asking questions and truly listening. In podcast conversations, preparation matters, but it’s often the listening in the moment that shapes where the conversation goes. The questions asked ahead of time help create a starting point, but they aren’t meant to be followed exactly. What matters more is paying attention to what is being shared and allowing the next question to emerge from that place. That balance between structure and flexibility creates space for something more natural and meaningful to unfold. Questions become less about control and more about connection.   CURIOSITY IN PRACTICE This idea of questions shaping outcomes shows up beyond conversations. In the development of a student engagement framework at the ARIS Hub at SAIT (the Southern Alberta Institute of Technology), the starting point wasn’t answers, it was curiosity. Questions were used to understand experiences, challenges, and needs across different perspectives. What emerged from that process was something grounded in what people actually shared. It wasn’t built on assumptions, but on listening. As well, because the questions continue, the work continues to evolve. When curiosity leads, what is created stays connected to the people it is meant to support.   CREATING SPACE FOR RESPONSES Questions can help us understand learning as it’s happening, but how we invite responses matters. Not everyone feels comfortable speaking up in the same way, especially in larger group settings. When the only option is to respond out loud, some voices naturally stay quiet. Creating different ways for people to share their thinking can shift that dynamic. Simple approaches can lower the barrier to participation and make it easier for more people to engage. When that happens, learning becomes something shared rather than something performed, and you gain a clearer sense of where people are at along the way.   WHEN QUESTIONS TAKE TIME There’s often a tendency to ask a question and then move quickly to the next thing, but giving people a little more time can make a meaningful difference. That pause, often called “wait time”,  allows space for thinking, for processing, and for more thoughtful responses to emerge. Not all questions are meant to be answered right away. Some take time. They stay with people, resurface later, and connect to other ideas in ways that aren’t always immediate. When we allow for that, we begin to see that learning doesn’t stop when the moment ends. It continues beyond it.   CREATING A SPACE WHERE QUESTIONS ARE WELCOME For many people, asking a question can feel vulnerable. It requires a sense of safety and a feeling that it’s okay to not have everything figured out. Without that, questions often go unasked, even when others are wondering the same thing. When a space is created where questions are welcomed and not knowing is part of the process, something shifts. People begin to engage more openly, and the learning becomes something they move through together. Often, the question one person is hesitant to ask is the same one others are quietly holding.   QUESTIONS BEYOND THE CLASSROOM Questions don’t just belong in formal learning environments. They show up in everyday conversations, in how we support others, and in how we connect. The way we ask can shift a conversation from something transactional to something more thoughtful and engaging. A small change, like moving from checking for completion to inviting reflection, can open up new ways of thinking. In those everyday moments, questions don’t just move things forward. They shape how people see themselves and their role in what comes next.   A QUESTION TO CARRY “When questions are intentional, they don’t just move things along. They open things up.” As you think about your own work and interactions, this isn’t about asking more questions for the sake of it. It’s about noticing the ones that are already there and becoming a little more intentional with them. Questions have a way of opening things up, creating space for understanding, connection, and something new to emerge. And sometimes, one thoughtful question is enough to shift how someone experiences learning in a lasting way.

What if the most powerful way to learn… isn’t speaking, but listening? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Kendall Breitman, Community Lead at Riverside, to explore how podcasting has become one of the most dynamic spaces for teaching, learning, and human connection. Kendall’s journey from political journalism to leading a global creator community offers a unique perspective on how we absorb information, share stories, and grow through conversation. From interviewing voters across the U.S. to now supporting thousands of creators, she has built her career around one core principle, learning begins with curiosity, and deepens through listening. This episode reframes podcasting as more than content creation. It’s a living classroom. It is a  space where ideas are exchanged, perspectives are challenged, and people evolve in real time. We explore how storytelling becomes a teaching tool, how community becomes a feedback loop for learning, and why the ability to truly listen is becoming one of the most valuable skills in a world full of noise.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Kendall’s story 03:00 Finding the thread that connects us 07:00 From question to connection 10:00 Listening that leads to acton 16:18 Teaching creators through community at Riverside 20:14 Learning how to podcast 24:19 How experience changes things 26:20 Ways to grow a podcast 29:55 Using tools in new ways 35:10 How AI supports creators 37:49 Podcasting as a modern learning ecosystem 40:43 Learning through life changes 47:15 The impact of mentorship 49:38 Taking a chance on yourself 50:20 Leading with human connection   Connect with Kendall and learn more about Riverside: LinkedIn: Kendall Breitman Website: Riverside https://riverside.com/ Instagram: @riverside.fm Facebook: @riversidedotfm Facebook group: Conversation Creators by Riverside YouTube: Riverside   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   FINDING THE THREAD THAT CONNECTS US “How are we all connected? What common ground can we find?” Kendall reflects on her early days in journalism, where instead of focusing on what candidates were saying, she chose to spend time with the people in the crowd, asking what mattered to them and why they were there. Through those conversations, she began to notice something deeper. Even when people held different views, there was often a shared feeling underneath, whether it was hope, fear, or something in between. Her role became less about reporting isolated stories and more about noticing patterns, asking better questions, and finding the thread that connected them. That experience shaped how she understands people and storytelling today. It also grounded her in the idea that learning about others starts by being present, curious, and willing to look beyond the surface to see what we might have in common.   FROM QUESTION TO CONNECTION Kendall shares how her background in journalism and television shaped the way she approaches podcasting and community building today. From learning how to distill a story into just a few seconds of video, to understanding how to ask questions that invite both depth and clarity, those early experiences taught her how to hold someone’s attention while still honouring what matters. That same approach carries into how she builds community, where her focus is less about broadcasting and more about genuinely understanding people. She describes it almost like being back at a rally, moving through conversations with curiosity, asking what people care about, what drives them, and what they’re navigating. It’s a reminder that whether you’re creating content or building something with others, it starts by slowing down, asking thoughtful questions, and being willing to truly hear what comes back.   LISTENING THAT LEADS TO ACTION “Listening leads to understanding.” Kendall shares how listening within a community goes far beyond simply hearing what people say. For her, it is about understanding what is underneath the question, noticing what someone is really struggling with, and using that insight to respond in a meaningful way. Whether it is passing along feature requests, remembering who asked for what, or following up when something has been implemented, she sees listening as something active and ongoing. It is not just about gathering feedback, but about showing people that their voices matter and that what they share leads to real change. She also reflects on how easy it is for feedback to feel uncomfortable on both sides, yet when it is welcomed and applied, it builds trust, connection, and a sense of belonging. When people feel seen, heard, and respected, they do not just engage, they stay, contribute, and become part of something bigger.   TEACHING CREATORS THROUGH COMMUNITY AT RIVERSIDE Kendall describes her role as the Community Lead at Riverside as standing right in the middle, acting as a bridge between the people using the platform and the team building it. On one side, she helps creators understand the tools, offering guidance, education, and support so they can create something they are proud of. On the other, she brings their voices back to the product team, sharing feedback, identifying needs, and even connecting specific users to new features so what gets built is actually useful. At the heart of it, her work is about understanding people, what they are trying to create, what they struggle with, and what matters to them, and making sure that understanding shapes both the tools and the experience. It is a reminder that when you truly pay attention to the people you are serving, the work becomes less about delivering something and more about building it together.   LEARNING HOW TO PODCAST Kendall reflects on the reality that starting a podcast often comes with two very different kinds of challenges. On one side, there is the technical learning curve, figuring out equipment, setup, editing, and all the details that can feel overwhelming when you are new. On the other, and often even more present, is the vulnerability that comes with putting something out into the world. Questions start to surface around whether anyone will listen, whether you have something worth saying, and what it means for others to see and hear you. She shares that while some people lean more toward one side than the other, most experience a mix of both, and even as you gain skills, that sense of vulnerability does not completely disappear. What shifts over time is how you hold it, learning to give yourself a bit more grace and recognizing that the discomfort is part of the process. It is a reminder that growth rarely happens without a little uncertainty, and that showing up anyway is often where the real learning begins.   HOW EXPERIENCE CHANGES THINGS Kendall shares that while the technical side of podcasting tends to settle as people gain experience, the vulnerability side does not fully go away. As creators become more comfortable, they often build confidence in their voice and style, and the process begins to feel more natural. At the same time, that feeling of putting something out into the world, wondering how it will be received, and hoping it resonates with someone continues to be part of the experience. She notes that even seasoned podcasters still look for those moments of connection and validation, whether it is hearing from a listener or seeing the impact of their work in unexpected ways. Over time, it becomes less about eliminating the uncertainty and more about learning how to move forward with it, trusting that confidence can grow alongside it rather than replace it.   WAYS TO GROW A PODCAST Kendall shares that one of the most overlooked ways to grow a podcast is by being a guest on other shows, where listeners are already in the mindset of tuning in and are more open to discovering new voices. She contrasts this with social media, where it can be harder to move someone from scrolling to fully listening. She also highlights the value of using video, especially on YouTube, and thinking beyond just short clips or full episodes. By pulling out a focused, searchable segment from a conversation and shaping it around a clear question, creators can make their content easier to find and more engaging for new audiences. Her approach is less about doing more and more about being intentional with where and how your voice shows up, meeting people in spaces where they are already ready to listen.   USING TOOLS IN NEW WAYS Kendall expands the idea of what a platform like Riverside can be used for, moving beyond podcast recording into a wider space of creation, learning, and sharing. She describes how people are using it to build courses, capture coaching conversations, create thought leadership content, and gather authentic testimonials, all by repurposing real conversations into meaningful outputs. What stands out is how these tools lower the barrier for people who may not have technical expertise, making it easier to edit, refine, and share their ideas without needing to be an expert. When she talks about AI, she frames it not as a replacement for the creator, but as support, helping people bring their voice forward with more ease while still holding onto what makes their perspective unique. It becomes less about mastering every technical detail and more about having something to say and the confidence to share it, knowing there are tools that can help you along the way.   HOW AI SUPPORTS CREATORS Kendall shares how AI within Riverside is designed to make creating more accessible, not by replacing the creator, but by supporting them. She describes how tools like automated editing, captions, and audio enhancements remove some of the technical barriers that can hold people back, allowing more individuals to share their stories without needing specialized skills or equipment. For her, this opens the door to more voices, more perspectives, and more opportunities for connection. Rather than taking away from the authenticity of what people create, these tools help bring it forward with greater ease and confidence. It becomes less about mastering every detail behind the scenes and more about focusing on the ideas, conversations, and stories that matter, making it easier for more people to show up and share what they have to offer.   PODCASTING AS A MODERN LEARNING ECOSYSTEM Kendall reflects on how podcasting naturally becomes a space for learning, no matter the topic. Whether someone is tuning in to understand how a business was built, to follow a story, or simply to hear different perspectives, there is always something being learned along the way. She sees podcasting as rooted in curiosity, where listening becomes a way to explore ideas, understand people, and make sense of the world. What stands out to her is how accessible this kind of learning is, something you can carry with you, whether you are commuting, doing daily tasks, or just looking to hear a new perspective. It opens the door to voices, stories, and insights that might not come through in more traditional formats, making learning feel more conversational and connected. It is a reminder that learning does not always have to look structured or formal, sometimes it happens simply by listening, staying curious, and being open to what others have to share.   LEARNING THROUGH LIFE CHANGES Kendall reflects on how some of her biggest learning has come through major life transitions, from leaving a successful career to move to a new country, to becoming a parent. She shares how stepping away from what once defined success pushed her to rethink what that word could mean, opening the door to growth in new and unexpected ways. Alongside that, becoming a parent has given her a completely different perspective on learning, watching it unfold in real time through her child’s development, from movement to language to everyday discovery. These experiences have deepened her understanding of adaptability and helped her see learning as something that is constantly evolving, shaped by where you are and what you are moving through. It is a reminder that growth does not always follow a clear path, and sometimes the moments that ask the most of you end up teaching you the most.   THE IMPACT OF MENTORSHIP Kendall shares how one of the most influential people in her journey was a mentor, Paul Singer, who believed in her early on and actively helped her open doors. He encouraged her to reach out, make connections, and learn from others, even giving her a simple subject line, “Singer sent me,” that became the start of many conversations and opportunities. What stayed with her most was not just the practical support, but the feeling that someone genuinely saw her potential and wanted to help her move forward. That experience shaped how she thinks about mentorship and connection, showing her the lasting impact of taking the time to support someone else’s path. It is a reminder that when you choose to invest in someone, even in small ways, you can influence their journey in ways that continue long after that moment.   TAKING A CHANCE ON YOURSELF Kendall reflects on the decision she is most proud of, choosing to take a chance on herself by leaving behind what felt like success and stepping into something unknown. It was not an easy move, and it came with uncertainty and discomfort, but it ultimately led her to a life that feels more aligned with what happiness means to her. Looking back, she recognizes how much courage it took to make that choice and how defining that moment has been in shaping her path. It is a reminder that the decisions that feel the most uncertain are often the ones that ask you to trust yourself the most, and that sometimes the hardest step is giving yourself permission to choose what truly feels right.   LEADING WITH HUMAN CONNECTION Kendall shares that, for her, everything comes back to human connection. While learning and curiosity play a big role, it is the relationships built through those moments that give them meaning. She reflects on how making the effort to connect, even in small ways, has shaped her experiences and guided her path, whether that is learning from someone, feeling inspired, or simply sharing a moment of understanding. She also offers a simple practice that has stayed with her, approaching new spaces with the intention of making one genuine connection. It is a way of showing up with openness, kindness, and authenticity, and letting that guide what happens next. It is a reminder that even in a world that can feel busy and disconnected, taking the time to connect with one person can change how an experience feels and what you take from it.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

What do you remember most about a meaningful learning experience in your life? If you pause and think about it, it’s often not just what you learned… but how it felt. In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, we explore what I’m calling the F word of teaching and learning and no, it’s not what you think. It’s…feelings. This episode is an invitation to shift how we think about learning, from something purely intellectual to something deeply human. Through personal stories, reflections from my time in the classroom, and insights from my work with clients, I explore how feelings shape the learning experience in ways we don’t always name, but always remember. From relevance and discomfort to belonging and connection, this conversation looks at what it really means to design and create learning experiences that people don’t just understand, but carry with them.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 The F word of teaching and learning 03:31 My grade 4 diary 05:00 Designing for feelings 06:02 When it feels relevant 06:45 Learning through discomfort  08:43 From transactional to relational 10:54 The feeling you create   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    Previous episodes mentioned: Episode 54: But Why? Making Learning Stick with Tiana Fech Episode 70: Learning in the Messy Middle with Tiana Fech   THE F WORD OF TEACHING AND LEARNING We often focus on the visible parts of learning, the structure, the outcomes, what someone will walk away knowing or being able to do. But learning is not just about thinking. It’s about feeling. People don’t just remember the content, they remember how it felt while they were learning it. Whether it’s feeling seen, supported, challenged, or believed in, those emotional experiences are what stay with us long after the details fade. Learning is not just something people think through. It’s something they feel their way through.   MY GRADE 4 DIARY I used to share a grade 4 diary entry with my junior high and high school science students at the start of the school year. In it, I wrote about how much I disliked science and how strongly I connected that feeling to my experience in the classroom at the time. It wasn’t about the subject, it was about the feeling. Then, with a bit of a laugh, I would remind them that I went on to become a science teacher. Not because everything changed overnight, but because something about the experience of learning shifted along the way. When the experience of learning changes, what feels possible can change too.   DESIGNING FOR FEELINGS Designing for feelings has carried into my work through a simple reflection: what might people be feeling as they arrive, what might they experience as they move through the learning, and how do you hope they leave? Those are not always the same. Someone might arrive feeling unsure or overwhelmed, move through moments of confusion or discomfort, and leave feeling more clear, more confident, or more connected. When we start to think about learning this way, it shifts not only how we design, but how we show up alongside people in the process.   WHEN IT FEELS RELEVANT If something doesn’t feel connected to someone’s life, their work, or something they care about, it’s really hard for them to engage. Relevance isn’t just about understanding, it’s about care. When something feels meaningful, people lean in differently. The experience shifts from something they have to get through to something they want to be part of, and that shift changes the depth of learning that’s possible.   LEARNING THROUGH DISCOMFORT Learning doesn’t always feel good. It can feel uncomfortable, uncertain, and even a bit vulnerable. There’s a space in learning where things feel unsettled, where you’re still figuring things out and nothing feels fully clear yet. Sometimes what makes that harder is the feeling that you need to get it right, or that you’re being watched or evaluated. In those moments, learning can start to feel more like performing than actually learning. But that discomfort isn’t something to remove, it’s part of the process. This isn’t about making learning easy or perfectly comfortable. It’s about making it feel possible to stay in it. The feeling we’re working toward is something more like being supported, encouraged, capable, and seen. It’s that sense of not having it yet, but believing you can get there. And that belief is often what helps someone keep going.   SMALL MOMENTS, BIG IMPACT Often, it’s the smallest things that shape the experience of learning. How someone is welcomed into a space, the tone that is used, whether there is room to ask questions or pause and think, and whether not knowing is acknowledged and normalized. These moments create a sense of belonging, where people feel like they are part of the learning rather than being measured by it. And when that shift happens, it changes how people engage.   FROM TRANSACTIONAL TO RELATIONAL “Learning that is felt is learning that lasts.” When we don’t pay attention to how learning feels, it can start to feel heavy or performative, and when that happens, people disengage, sometimes quietly. But when learning feels relational, when people feel connected to what they’re learning, to themselves, and to each other, something changes. It moves from something to complete to something to experience, opening up space for deeper connection and understanding. When learning feels relational, it doesn’t just stay in the moment. It carries forward. It shapes how someone thinks, what they do next, and how they show up. It becomes something they can use in a way that matters to them.   THE FEELING YOU CREATE As you think about your own work, whether you’re teaching, leading, creating, or simply connecting with others, here’s something to reflect on: How do you want people to feel? Because people may forget the exact words or the structure, but they won’t forget how it felt to learn with you.

What does it look like to lead with empathy? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Heather Setka, Academic Chair of Electrical Trades at the Southern Alberta Institute of Technology (SAIT), to explore how a winding career path, from small-town journalist to academic chair, shaped her philosophy on leadership, education, and impact. Heather shares how her early career in journalism prepared her for everything she does today. Problem solving. Relationship building. Truth seeking. Communication. The seeds planted as a small-town reporter now blossom in her role leading one of the largest academic portfolios on campus. The conversation dives deep into women in leadership in male-dominated spaces, feminine leadership styles, and the power of empathy in building trust and cohesion. Heather also reflects on her decade-long research into women teaching in all-male classrooms and what she has learned about influence, collaboration, and creating “we” cultures over “me” cultures. We also explore her life-changing experience with the Light Up the World project in rural Peru, where she was part of a team who helped bring solar energy to off-grid communities, an experience that reshaped her understanding of electricity, teamwork, and service. From Princess Leia as a leadership metaphor to raising a daughter as a single mother, Heather’s story is layered, honest, and deeply human. If you are navigating leadership, education, gender equity, or simply building a life on a winding road, this episode will meet you where you are.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Heather’s story  03:00 A winding path to leadership 10:00 The role of an academic chair 11:55 Feminine and empathetic leadership 17:45 Light Up the World in rural Peru 26:35 Learning through story 33:50 A teacher who inspired 37:20 Raising an incredible human 41:22 Remembering to never stop learning   Connect with Heather: LinkedIn: Heather Setka   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    A WINDING PATH TO LEADERSHIP Heather describes her career path as anything but straight. It has been more like a winding river. She has come to see that as one of its greatest strengths. She began as a small-town newspaper reporter in Vulcan, Alberta, where she wrote stories, took photos, built relationships in the community, and constantly solved problems to keep the paper running. While that role may seem worlds away from her current position as Academic Chair of Electrical Trades at SAIT, she realized that the core of the work is surprisingly similar. Journalism taught her how to ask questions, connect with people, investigate situations, communicate clearly, and piece together information to understand what is really going on. These are skills she now uses every day while supporting instructors and navigating complex situations within her department. Looking back, she can see how those early experiences planted seeds that are still shaping her work today, even though she never would have predicted where the path would lead. Sometimes the experiences that seem unrelated at the time are quietly building the exact skills we’ll need later on.   THE ROLE OF AN ACADEMIC CHAIR When Heather tries to explain what it means to be an academic chair, she laughs and describes it as “everything, everywhere, all at once.” In many ways, the role is similar to being a principal, but for a specific academic portfolio. In her case at SAIT, that means supporting and managing faculty, helping instructors work through challenges and reach their goals, and having conversations with students about their needs while connecting them to the right supports. At the same time, she’s also responsible for things like budgeting, scheduling, and collaborating closely with her two co-chairs to help lead one of the largest portfolios on campus. The work spans people, systems, and strategy, and requires constant communication and problem solving. Heather has come to appreciate that the role is less about one single responsibility and more about bringing many pieces together to help both instructors and students succeed. Some of the most important work in organizations happens in roles that quietly hold many moving parts together.   FEMININE AND EMPATHETIC LEADERSHIP Heather’s interest in leadership really took shape through her research on women teaching in predominantly male classrooms. While completing her master’s degree in leadership at Athabasca University, she began exploring what it was like for women instructors working in technical programs where most students were men. That work eventually grew into interviews and focus groups with women across similar environments, helping her better understand the dynamics at play. Today, she leads a largely male team of instructors in the electrical trades, and she sees clear value in the perspective she brings as a woman in that space. Through her research and experience, she’s come to appreciate the role of what’s often called feminine leadership – an approach rooted in empathy, relationship-building, and understanding. For Heather, leadership in these environments is less about authority and more about presence, conversation, and trust. She believes teams benefit when empathy is part of the culture, because regardless of gender, people want to feel heard, supported, and connected to the work they are doing. Sometimes the most powerful shift a leader can make is simply moving a team from “me” toward “we.”   LIGHT UP THE WORLD IN RURAL PERU Heather describes her trip to rural Peru with the Light Up the World project, alongside a small team of students and volunteers, as one of the most profound experiences of her life. The Calgary-founded organization brings solar-powered electricity to remote communities far beyond the reach of traditional power lines. Supporting the team, and living without electricity during the trip, gave her a completely new appreciation for something many of us rarely think about. When the lights finally turned on in the community, the moment felt almost miraculous. The experience deepened her respect for the role of electrical trades in everyday life and strengthened her commitment to preparing the next generation of tradespeople. For Heather, it was a powerful reminder that something as simple as turning on a light can transform opportunities for learning, safety, and connection – something most of us only begin to understand when we experience life without it.   LEARNING THROUGH STORY ​​“You can use stories to capture people’s attention. In many stories, the path – the journey – is universal to the human experience.” Heather’s love of using pop culture in her work comes from something simple: stories stick with people. Growing up, she was fascinated by Princess Leia in Star Wars – a character who was tough, intelligent, compassionate, and unapologetically herself. That early connection stayed with her and eventually found its way into her teaching, research, and presentations. For Heather, stories like Star Wars follow a universal narrative arc – the hero’s journey – that mirrors many of our own experiences of growth, struggle, and leadership. Using characters like Leia as analogies helps her communicate ideas in ways that are memorable and relatable, while also highlighting complex ideas about leadership, identity, and resilience. She especially appreciates Leia’s evolution from princess to general, a journey that reflects the ways women can grow into leadership while still embracing their full identities. In Heather’s view, bringing stories and cultural touchstones into learning isn’t just fun. It helps people see themselves in the ideas being shared, and that’s often when the learning really lands.   A TEACHER WHO INSPIRED When Heather thinks about the teachers who shaped her path, one person stands out right away – her Grade 7 English teacher, Mrs. Colleen Morgan. Heather had just moved from Saskatchewan to Alberta at the time, and Mrs. Morgan quickly made an impression with her passion for books, stories, and language. She was the kind of teacher who balanced high expectations with real inspiration. Mrs. Morgan was someone who could be tough when needed but who also made students genuinely care about what they were learning. That combination left a lasting mark on Heather, who says it was the first time she experienced a truly incredible teacher. Over the years, she’s made a point of tracking Mrs. Morgan down and telling her just how much that experience meant, especially when Heather began teaching herself. Sometimes the influence of a great teacher echoes far beyond the classroom, shaping who we become and the paths we choose long after those early lessons end.   RAISING AN INCREDIBLE HUMAN When Heather reflects on what she’s most proud of in her life, her answer comes quickly: her daughter. While she has earned three university degrees, built a long career, travelled, and supported herself independently for many years, raising her daughter as a single mother stands out above everything else. From the time she was 25, Heather carried much of the responsibility of parenting on her own, often feeling the weight of making sure everything held together – the home, the work, the future. Looking back now, she realizes how much stress she carried during those years, worrying whether it would all work out. But it did. Her daughter is now in her fourth year at the University of Saskatchewan studying agriculture, passionate about her field and surrounded by a strong community. Heather is quick to acknowledge that it truly took a village – family members, her daughter’s father, and many others who supported them along the way. Still, she knows how much heart, resilience, and determination it took to navigate those years. For Heather, the achievement she values most isn’t a degree or a job title. It’s seeing the thoughtful, capable person her daughter has become.   NEVER STOP LEARNING Heather’s advice is simple: never stop learning. Even now, after years working in education and earning multiple degrees, she’s still taking courses herself. She is currently studying an undergraduate class in introduction to counselling through Athabasca University. For her, learning isn’t something that ends once school is over. It’s an ongoing part of being curious about what might come next. She acknowledges that learning can feel harder as time goes on, but that challenge is part of what keeps life interesting and meaningful. Whether through formal education or the many other ways people can grow their knowledge today, Heather believes the important thing is to keep going, keep exploring, and stay open to new ideas. The journey of learning doesn’t really have a finish line and that’s part of what makes it worthwhile.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Should we be worried about AI? It’s a question that’s showing up in classrooms, workplaces, homes, and conversations everywhere. Sometimes it’s asked directly: Will AI replace teachers? Other times it shows up more quietly: What does this mean for how we learn? What does this mean for the future of work? In this episode, I explore how the rapid rise of generative AI is reshaping how we think about teaching and learning. Rather than focusing only on tools or policies, this conversation looks at the deeper questions underneath the technology – questions about identity, trust, creativity, and what it means to remain human in a world where machines can generate information so quickly. Drawing on experiences from my own teaching career and the People Teaching People Framework, I reflect on how AI intersects with the science, art, and heart of learning, and why this moment might be less about replacing educators and more about clarifying what matters most in the work we do together.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 AI and the future of teaching 04:18 Technology when I started teaching 05:51 Technology when I was a student 08:06 The science, art, and heart of learning 09:30 The value of human voice 10:19 Rethinking learning in an AI world 11:10 Trust, ethics, and AI literacy 12:51 The messy middle of change 13:18 The human heart of teaching and learning   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    AI AND THE FUTURE OF TEACHING As educators, leaders, parents, creators, and lifelong learners – as people who care deeply about teaching and learning – many of us are wondering what AI might mean for the future. Will teachers still matter? Will students still learn how to think deeply? Beneath the headlines and rapid technological change, these questions are often less about the tools themselves and more about what we value in learning. When we pause long enough to ask them honestly, the conversation shifts from fear toward curiosity about how teaching and learning might continue to evolve.   TECHNOLOGY WHEN I STARTED TEACHING When I started teaching in 2002, the classroom looked very different. Students handed in printed assignments, we used overhead projectors, and the computer lab had to be booked in advance. Smartphones weren’t yet part of everyday life, and a phone ringing in class usually meant someone’s parent, or even grandparent, calling with a reminder about something waiting at home after school. Within a few years, that began to change. Smartphones appeared in pockets, social media became part of daily life, collaboration tools emerged, and learning increasingly moved online.   TECHNOLOGY WHEN I WAS A STUDENT Looking back even further, the tools of my own childhood learning feel almost nostalgic now: programming the turtle in elementary school, using CD-ROM encyclopedias, listening to the screech of dial-up internet, and printing directions from MapQuest. Education has always adapted alongside technology. Calculators, the internet, search engines, and smartphones have all changed how we access information. What feels different about this moment isn’t that change is happening. It’s the speed at which it’s unfolding.   THE SCIENCE, ART, AND HEART OF LEARNING One way to make sense of this moment is through the lens of the People Teaching People Framework. The science of teaching includes the structures that support learning: clear objectives, thoughtful assessment, and feedback that helps learners grow. The art brings learning to life through creativity, voice, and energy. But at the centre of it all is the heart – connection, trust, belonging, and the emotional experience of learning together. While AI may support parts of the science and the art, the heart of learning continues to be deeply human.   THE VALUE OF HUMAN VOICE “In a world of synthetic content, genuine presence stands out. Human voice becomes valuable. Messy thinking becomes valuable. Emotion and imperfection become valuable.” As AI-generated content becomes more common, authenticity becomes more noticeable. Imperfect thinking, lived experience, and genuine human perspective stand out in a world where polished content can be produced almost instantly. In many ways, the rise of AI may actually highlight the value of real voices, real stories, and real presence. The things that make us human become easier to recognize and more meaningful.   RETHINKING LEARNING IN AN AI WORLD If AI can generate an essay in seconds, it invites us to reconsider what we are truly assessing in learning. Instead of focusing only on polished final products, educators may increasingly look for visible thinking – the reasoning, reflection, and the process behind ideas. Struggle and effort have always been part of meaningful learning, and this moment offers an opportunity to think carefully about how we continue to support deep understanding in a changing landscape.   TRUST, ETHICS, AND AI LITERACY As AI becomes more integrated into daily life, questions of trust, ethics, and access become increasingly important. Not all learners have equal access to these tools, and the systems that power them can carry bias from the data they are trained on. Developing AI literacy, understanding how these systems work, where their limits are, and how to use them responsibly, is becoming an essential part of learning in the modern world.   THE MESSY MIDDLE OF CHANGE Moments of technological transition rarely arrive with clear answers. Policies are still developing, best practices are still emerging, and many educators and organizations are experimenting in real time. This period can feel uncertain, but it is also where growth happens. The messy middle is often where reflection, adaptation, and new possibilities begin to take shape.   THE HUMAN HEART OF TEACHING AND LEARNING “AI may support the science and the art of teaching and learning. But the heart still requires – us.” Technology will continue to evolve, and the ways we teach and learn will evolve alongside it. But the deeper purpose of education – helping people think, grow, connect, and understand the world – remains rooted in human relationship. AI may support parts of the work. It may help us generate ideas, summarize information, and move more quickly through certain tasks. But the qualities that make learning meaningful – critical thinking, lived experience, emotional intelligence, ethical reasoning, and our ability to build trust with one another – are still deeply human. In the end, even in an AI-shaped future, it is still people teaching people.

What happens when a small-town kid from the Northwest Territories follows curiosity instead of certainty? In this episode of People Teaching People, I sit down with Morgan Jones, high school teacher, musician, global educator, and proud dad, to explore how teaching and learning through travel shaped his worldview and his classroom. Morgan shares what it was like growing up in Fort Smith in the Northwest Territories, where community involvement opened doors to leadership, confidence, and opportunity. He reflects on how attending Pearson College, part of the United World College movement, transformed his sense of identity and introduced him to intercultural learning in a way that permanently shifted his path. Morgan’s story is a reminder that education is not confined to classrooms. It lives in grocery stores in foreign cities. It lives in choir rehearsals. It lives in dorm conversations at two in the morning. It lives in risk, curiosity, and human connection. If you’re a teacher, parent, student, or lifelong learner navigating a rapidly changing world, this episode will ground you in what matters most.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Morgan’s story 03:20 Growing up in a small town 06:20 Finding purpose in service 08:00 A life changed at Pearson College 13:20 Learning across cultures 17:10 Being stretched as a learner 20:40 Finding a place to land 24:45 Choosing teaching over the stage 30:10 Teaching through music 31:40 Following curiosity in research 38:10 Teachers who see you 41:10 Pride in his daughter 45:40 There is always more to learn 48:13 Learning for a changing world   Connect with Morgan: LinkedIn: Morgan Jones Email: [email protected]    Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    GROWING UP IN A SMALL TOWN Morgan reflects on how growing up in a small town in the Northwest Territories quietly shaped his openness to the world. With fewer people and fewer barriers to participation, he found himself saying yes to everything – sports teams, academic opportunities, conferences – not because he excelled at all of them, but because there was room to try, to belong, and to step into experiences that might not have been available in a bigger place. Alongside that openness to opportunity was a deep closeness to the land and the rhythms of nature: falling asleep to the sound of rapids, growing up with the Northern Lights as something ordinary and magical at the same time, and being held by a tight-knit community that looked out for its own. Even with the long winters and tough conditions, those early experiences planted a lasting sense of curiosity, appreciation, and gratitude for where he came from – a reminder that where we grow up can quietly expand how we learn to say yes to the world.   FINDING PURPOSE IN SERVICE Morgan shares that one of the biggest surprises for him wasn’t a sport or an academic pursuit, but discovering how meaningful community involvement could feel. What started as a very practical, extrinsically motivated choice – taking on a leadership role to qualify for an award he wanted – quietly shifted into something deeper when he realized how much he enjoyed stepping up, organizing people, and doing something that helped others. Running events like the 30 Hour Famine showed him that leadership wasn’t just about recognition, but about creating moments where people could come together for a shared purpose, and that feeling stuck with him. That unexpected entry point opened doors to more opportunities over the years and helped shape the path he’s still walking today, a reminder that sometimes the things we step into for one reason end up revealing a part of ourselves we didn’t even know we were looking for.   A LIFE CHANGED AT PEARSON COLLEGE “If I could inspire one student the way my teacher inspired me, my life would be a success.” Morgan describes arriving at Pearson College, on Vancouver Island, without really knowing what he was walking into, drawn more by stories and curiosity than a clear plan for his future. What he found there reshaped how he saw the world and what felt possible. Learning alongside people from many cultures, and being invited to stay open to the unknown, changed how he understood himself. New experiences, especially music, revealed parts of him he didn’t know were there. Teachers noticed that potential and encouraged him to try, even when he wasn’t sure. Being seen in that way didn’t just change what he studied. It changed how he thinks about learning and teaching. That shift still shows up in how he works with students today, a reminder of how one place and a few people can quietly change the direction of a life.   LEARNING ACROSS CULTURES Morgan shares how moving through different parts of Canada and eventually teaching overseas deepened his curiosity about people, culture, and differences in ways that staying in one place never could have. Being surrounded by diverse perspectives at Pearson left him wanting more of that richness, and teaching abroad gave him a chance to step fully into unfamiliar worlds. He talks about choosing to lean into local culture rather than staying on the edges of it – learning the language, wandering grocery stores, trying unfamiliar food, and letting small missteps become stories instead of reasons to retreat. That openness helped him feel at home in places that were once completely foreign and shaped how he approaches new communities with humility and interest. Those experiences taught him that belonging grows when we show up curious and willing to learn.   BEING STRETCHED AS A LEARNER Morgan shares that teaching at United World College in Eswatini, South Africa was the place that stretched him most as a learner, in ways he didn’t fully expect. Living in a country where he was both a visible minority and carried unearned privilege forced him to sit with discomfort and question assumptions he hadn’t had to face before. Life on campus meant teaching didn’t end when classes did. It continued in dorms, late-night conversations, and moments of care for young students far from home, some carrying heavy family realities and long separations. The pace was intense and the emotional weight was real, but so was the sense of purpose, connection, and awe at the resilience of students who chose to stay and learn, even when it was hard. That experience reshaped how he understands responsibility, privilege, and what it really means to show up for others across differences.   FINDING A PLACE TO LAND Morgan shares that coming back to Canada after years overseas came with a big question about where to build a life next. After returning to Nanaimo and retraining as a teacher, he and his family made a very deliberate choice to explore small towns across southern B.C., looking for a place that felt right for their season of life. Creston stood out for its natural beauty, its pace, and the chance to be closer to aging parents, making the move feel grounded in both heart and practicality. Taking a temporary teaching role during the uncertainty of COVID meant risk, long stretches of being apart from his family, and a lot of stress, but it also opened the door to belonging in a new community. What began as a short-term step became a place to put down roots, grow into new teaching opportunities, and find a sense of fit in a town that quietly made space for him to spread his wings.   CHOOSING TEACHING OVER THE STAGE Morgan traces his move toward teaching and academia back to a few pivotal moments that helped him see what kind of life he wanted to build. One came from an honest, uncomfortable conversation with a professional singer that forced him to reflect on what he was truly willing to sacrifice for a performing career, and what kind of stability he wanted as his personal life took shape. Another came through being inspired by a professor who showed him that scholarship and performance didn’t have to be separate worlds, and that learning could be shared in ways that brought people into the story behind the music. With teachers woven throughout his life, both at home and in his own schooling, he began to see teaching as a meaningful profession where performance, storytelling, and care for learners could live side by side. That blend offered a way to stay close to music while choosing a path rooted in connection, purpose, and showing up for others in a more sustainable way.   TEACHING THROUGH MUSIC Morgan shares that music is never far from his teaching, even when he’s in a social studies classroom. Because he studied music and history together, he naturally looks for the stories, movements, and cultural moments inside songs and artists. He invites students to see how music reflects what’s happening in the world, from protest movements to migration and social change. In his contemporary music class, those connections come alive through pop music and the stories behind it. Taking the risk of bringing in music he personally loves, like a full Billy Joel album, opened up surprising moments of curiosity and connection for his students. When learners start to see history and culture through sound and story, the content begins to feel closer, more human, and more real.   FOLLOWING CURIOSITY IN RESEARCH Morgan traces his PhD journey back to a moment when the path he thought he was on stopped making sense. Struggling in a traditional academic lane and close to walking away, he took a chance on studying something he genuinely loved. Choosing to research Billy Joel opened a door at a time when pop music scholarship was still finding its footing. With the support of a professor who believed in the work, he found renewed energy in digging deeply into music, culture, and meaning. The work was slow and often tedious, even when it looked fun from the outside, but it reconnected him to why he wanted to learn in the first place. Sometimes the work that sustains us is the work that begins with following what lights us up.   TEACHERS WHO SEE YOU Morgan reflects on how, at every stage of his life, there were teachers who quietly shaped who he became, from early classroom moments that built confidence to high school educators who were years ahead of their time in how they honoured different ways of showing learning. He speaks with particular warmth about a university professor who noticed his curiosity, invited him into deeper conversations, and gently nudged him toward a path he hadn’t planned, helping him discover a love for music and history that would change the direction of his studies. What stands out most isn’t just what these teachers taught, but how closely they paid attention to their students, noticing interests, strengths, and small moments that made learning feel personal. Being seen in that way didn’t just influence his academic choices, it showed him what kind of teacher he wanted to become for others.   PRIDE IN HIS DAUGHTER When Morgan looks back on his journey, what rises to the surface isn’t a title, a place, or an accomplishment, but his daughter. He speaks about watching her take shared interests and run with them in ways that go beyond what he ever did, creating, building, and imagining with a kind of fearless creativity that amazes him. Growing up overseas, living through constant change, and navigating the disruptions of COVID asked a lot of her at a young age, yet she’s met those moments with resilience and a deep sense of curiosity about the world. Seeing her turn everyday scraps into elaborate creations and lean fully into what excites her has become a daily reminder of why we try to create spaces where young people can grow into more than we ever were.   THERE IS ALWAYS MORE TO LEARN Morgan shares that even after years of study and teaching, there’s still a long list of things he wants to learn for himself. He talks about wanting to finally learn an instrument, beyond voice and piano, remembering how he once stayed just a step ahead of his students by teaching himself woodwinds when he was unexpectedly hired to teach band. He’s also drawn to learning another language, reflecting on how meaningful it was to learn enough Russian to get by while living in Ukraine, even knowing how hard that kind of learning can be. Lately, the pull to write has been growing too, sparked by turning fifty and thinking about the value of leaving stories behind, not for an audience, but for family and for himself. The thread running through it all is a quiet commitment to staying open to learning, even when time is scarce and life is full.   LEARNING FOR A CHANGING WORLD Morgan reflects on how teaching right now means sitting with uncertainty alongside young people who are trying to make sense of a world that feels unpredictable and fast-changing. He talks about the tension of wanting to be honest with students while also remembering their age and the many roles teachers hold in their lives, from guide to caregiver to steady presence. What has helped him most in navigating those moments is the perspective he gained through travel and learning from people whose lives and stories look different from his own. Taking time to listen, to learn how others live, to share meals, music, and everyday moments has shaped how he shows up with empathy and care in the classroom. Staying open to people and willing to know them across differences becomes a way of nurturing compassion, especially when answers are hard to come by. ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Have you ever moved through your day surrounded by people… and realized how little you actually know about the stories they’re carrying? The person at the checkout.A colleague in a meeting.Someone you pass on the sidewalk. Each one is living a story shaped by experiences, relationships, loss, hope, and questions you may never fully see. In this episode, I reflect on what happens when we slow down enough to remember that everyone has a story and how that awareness quietly changes how we listen, connect, and show up with one another. Through moments from podcast conversations, personal experiences, and reflections on learning in relationship, this episode explores what becomes possible when we move through the world with a little more presence and curiosity.   Listen in as we talk about: 1:00 Remembering that everyone has a story 4:01 Practicing curiosity in everyday conversations 4:58 Seeing the human behind the work 8:09 Learning in relationship with one another 12:31 Noticing whose stories we’re used to hearing 14:02 Making space to listen 15:35 The invitation beneath the stories we share   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    REMEMBERING EVERYONE HAS A STORY Every person we encounter is shaped by experiences we often know nothing about. Remembering this doesn’t require knowing someone’s whole story. It’s more about carrying a gentle awareness that there is always more beneath the surface than what we see in passing. When we move through the world with this in mind, it softens quick judgments and invites more care into everyday interactions. It changes how we interpret behaviour, how we hold moments of tension, and how we notice the humanity in people we might otherwise overlook.   PRACTICING CURIOSITY Curiosity doesn’t have to look like asking big questions or having profound conversations. Often, it shows up quietly in the way we stay present, allow pauses, and follow the threads of someone’s story when it takes an unexpected turn. When curiosity leads, conversations become less about steering toward an outcome and more about making room for what wants to be shared. Over time, this kind of presence builds trust and opens space for people to show up more fully as themselves.   SEEING THE HUMAN BEHIND THE WORK Behind every role, title, or area of expertise is a person shaped by lived experience. When we make space for that story, learning becomes more than information-sharing. It becomes relational. We start to notice how someone’s work is connected to what they care about, what they’ve lived through, and what they’re still figuring out. The conversation shifts from “what do you do?” to “who are you becoming?” and that shift changes how learning lands.   LEARNING IN RELATIONSHIP So much of what shapes us happens in relationship with others. Learning deepens when it’s grounded in connection, conversation, and shared experience rather than delivered in isolation. When people feel seen and heard, they’re more willing to reflect, to try, and to stay with the messy middle of growth. Learning in relationship creates conditions for honesty, for uncertainty, and for real change over time.   NOTICING WHOSE STORIES WE HEAR The stories we’re exposed to shape how we understand people, places, and events. And often, the versions we receive are partial. Some voices are amplified. Others are missing. Holding this awareness gently doesn’t mean doubting everything we hear. It means staying open to the possibility that there is more to the story than the version we’ve been given. This kind of openness expands perspective and makes room for learning that includes more people and more lived realities.   MAKING SPACE TO LISTEN Listening isn’t just about hearing words. It’s about creating space for someone else’s experience to land without rushing to fix, advise, or relate it back to ourselves. Small shifts – pausing before responding, asking one curious follow-up question, staying with what feels unfinished – can quietly change the quality of connection. These moments don’t need to be dramatic to matter. Over time, they shape how safe people feel being real with us.   THE INVITATION BENEATH THE STORIES “Let stories make the world feel a little smaller, and our connections to each other feel a little more possible.” Different lives, different paths, and still familiar human threads. Beneath every story is an invitation to see the person, stay curious, and let our sense of “we” grow a little wider. When we listen with care, we begin to notice what we might have otherwise missed – the courage behind decisions, the grief beneath defensiveness, the hope woven into uncertainty. Stories don’t just inform us. They quietly reshape how we move through the world with one another.   Podcast episodes mentioned: The Part-Time Jungle Podcast Episode 16: Good Sleep is a Game Changer with Eva Klein  Episode 36: Behind the Scenes with Catriona Le May Doan The People Teaching People Podcast Episode 16: Transforming Menstrual Equity Through Education and Sustainability with Madeleine Shaw  Episode 27: Nursing Education and Mentorship with Karen Lane Episode 46: Ecofriendly Cleaning and Community Spirit with Monika Scott and Robyn Mair of Mint Cleaning 

What does it really take to build a successful brand without retail experience, paid ads, or chasing trends? In this episode of People Teaching People, I sit down with Jenna Hill, founder and CEO of Frock Box, to break down the real mechanics behind growing a community-led business from a basement startup into a multi-million dollar brand. Jenna shares how Frock Box began as a solution to a personal pain point during early motherhood, and how listening closely to women has shaped every stage of the business, from the styling model to customer experience to team culture. We talk about building without outside funding, why Jenna avoided ads and hype-driven growth, and how education, trust, and connection became the company’s true growth engine. This conversation is a grounded look at what actually works when you build slowly, intentionally, and in alignment with real life. No shortcuts, no theatrics, just honest lessons from the inside. If you’re building a business, nurturing an idea, or questioning whether you need to follow the “standard” playbook to succeed, this episode offers clarity, reassurance, and practical insight.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Jenna’s story 03:50 Going from idea to Frock Box 06:58 Creative roots to retail 11:24 Choosing a word of the year 17:21 Learning through the messy middle 23:26 Listening to the nudges 26:42 Behind the scenes of Frock Box 30:50 Education at the heart of Frock Box 35:14 Being a mentor 39:05 Learning by watching mom 41:00 Looking ahead at Frock Box 42:32 The teacher who challenged her 44:50 Being proud of the people  46:48 Always being curious to learn  47:55 Dream conversations 49:14 The power of connection    Connect with Jenna: Website: https://www.frockbox.ca/ Instagram: Jenna Hill: @iamjenna3 Frock Box: @frockboxcanada LinkedIn: Jenna Hill Facebook: @frockboxcanada TikTok: @frockbox   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    GOING FROM IDEA TO FROCK BOX Jenna traces the start of Frock Box back to early motherhood and the long days spent roaming malls with babies in tow. She remembers a small but real frustration: loving comfy leggings but never finding tops that felt good to wear with them. What began as a personal need for something thoughtful on a changing body slowly became a bigger idea about how clothing shapes how you show up in the world. She noticed how the right outfit could shift your mood, your posture, and even your sense of possibility. She also saw a gap in Canada for something that felt personal and accessible, without the hassle of cross-border shopping. Out of everyday conversations with friends and a desire to help women feel more seen, a business began to take shape. It was rooted in the belief that small, thoughtful experiences can change how a day feels.   CREATIVE ROOTS TO RETAIL Jenna shares that Frock Box did not come from retail experience at all. It came from a love of building things, creating, and bringing people together. Her background in graphic design and photography shaped how she thinks about business. Those creative roots taught her that community comes first, that people want to feel like they belong, and that connection is often what turns an idea into something real. She brings that same lens into Frock Box, grounding the brand in belonging rather than trends. Alongside that heart for community is her bias toward action. She is willing to try ideas quickly, knowing that some will work and some will not. For her, momentum comes from starting before everything feels perfect. Even with hindsight about branding or naming, she holds an easy honesty about building with what you know at the time. The courage to begin is often what carries things forward.   CHOOSING A WORD OF THE YEAR Jenna reflects on how one word can become a steady guide for the year. It becomes a simple anchor for how you move, decide, and show up. Her word, rooted, helps her hold two things at once. It keeps her grounded in her instincts and values while also giving her permission to flow, experiment, and try new things. She notices how different seasons of life call for different kinds of energy. Her past word, bloom, captured growth and expansion. Rooted, on the other hand, is about staying steady below the surface, even when things stretch and shift above ground. For her, this practice is not about chasing perfection. It is about choosing something that keeps her connected to who she is while she explores what is next. It becomes a small habit that brings clarity back to everyday decisions.     LEARNING THROUGH THE MESSY MIDDLE Jenna says that building Frock Box has been a daily lesson in trusting herself, embracing the creative chaos of how her mind works, and leading in a way that actually fits who she is. Along the way, she has become deeply aware of how emotional this work can be, especially in how women speak to themselves and what they believe they are allowed to wear. She notices how old messages and quiet self-criticism show up in the mirror. Her hope is to offer small moments of lightness and confidence through the styling experience. She also speaks honestly about the harder lessons, including missteps, financial risks, and choices that do not land the way you hoped. Her story holds both truths at once. Not every decision works out, and there is always more happening behind the scenes than what we see on social media.   LISTENING TO THE NUDGES “How fun it is to sit and dream about what could be.” Jenna shares that she has learned to recognize her nudges by paying attention to how her body responds, especially as she has gotten older. For her, the signal is clear when an idea keeps her awake at night because she feels excited and can’t stop thinking about it. She mentions that this pull usually shows up around business, and while she knows not everyone is wired the same way, she gently challenges people to consider what it might feel like years from now to have never answered that call. When she looks honestly at the risks of trying something and strips away the fear of being judged, what’s left often feels far more manageable than it first appeared. She speaks about the joy of dreaming about what could be, paired with a willingness to do the work to make it real, and her hope that her daughters will one day find work that feels meaningful, even if not every part of it is enjoyable.   BEHIND THE SCENES OF FROCK BOX Jenna explains how Frock Box has evolved from a simple idea of delivering an outfit to someone’s door into a more flexible, thoughtful experience shaped by listening closely to what women actually need. She realized early on that bodies are not one-size-fits-all, that stylists cannot see what is already in someone’s closet, and that choice matters, so the model shifted to a five-piece favourites box that women can try at home and keep only what works for them. The process is designed to fit real life, with personal stylists using profiles and visual cues to make thoughtful selections, and with easy returns that remove pressure from the experience. Over time, small changes, like previewing a box by text before it ships, have helped build more trust and better results. At the heart of it all is her commitment to making personal styling more accessible for busy Canadian women, including those in rural communities, and to building real connection through listening, adapting, and growing alongside the people she serves.   EDUCATION AT THE HEART OF FROCK BOX Jenna shares that teaching and learning are woven into everything Frock Box does, and that the business has become less about selling clothes and more about helping women feel confident through thoughtful styling support. She explains how education now sits at the centre of their work, from colour analysis sessions that help people understand what actually works for them, to in-boutique styling sessions where small, practical shifts can change how someone feels in an outfit. These experiences are not about chasing trends, but about learning what fits your body, your life, and your sense of self. As Frock Box continues to grow, she sees this education piece expanding even further, shaped by listening closely to what their community is asking for and building services that help women walk into their closets feeling capable, confident, and ready for their day.   BEING A MENTOR Jenna shares that when she mentors new entrepreneurs, she starts by helping them lay all the risks on the table and get honest about what they are actually comfortable with, rather than feeling pressured to go “all in” right away. She challenges the idea that you have to quit your job or take big leaps before you even know if an idea is viable, and instead encourages people to build in ways that fit their real lives, responsibilities, and risk tolerance. She also emphasizes the importance of knowing who your business is for, starting from a real pain point you understand, and finding what will genuinely set you apart from others in the space. Alongside clarity about customers and differentiation, she reminds people to cut through the noise of conflicting advice and to find a friend, mentor, or community to think out loud with, because ideas often need to be spoken before they can take shape.   LEARNING BY WATCHING MOM Jenna shares that what she hopes her daughters learn goes beyond the idea that you can do anything you set your mind to. She wants them to look deeper and notice what truly lights them up. She knows how much of life is spent at work and how heavy it can feel to stay in something that does not feel meaningful. She describes her own best days at Frock Box as simple moments of connection, like sitting outside a fitting room, watching women try on clothes, and helping them make small shifts in how they see themselves. She hopes her girls one day find work that feels both challenging and rewarding, and she carries deep gratitude for the community and team that have grown alongside her.   LOOKING AHEAD AT FROCK BOX Jenna shares that what is inspiring her right now is the next step of building out the education side of Frock Box, especially the launch of new body shape analysis sessions. She sees this as a natural extension of the styling work they already do and as another way to help women understand what actually works for them. While she knows colours and body shapes are not life-changing on their own, she believes deeply in the quiet power of that moment when you put on an outfit and instantly feel better in your body. That small confidence boost can shape how you move through the rest of your day. For her, the goal is to reach more women with that feeling, so getting dressed feels easier, lighter, and something to look forward to.   THE TEACHER WHO CHALLENGED HER Jenna reflects on a business mentor as the teacher who had one of the biggest influences on her journey, even though that relationship felt uncomfortable at first. She admits she initially felt intimidated and unsure if her mentor even believed in her business, but over time she realized that this challenge came from deep care and a strong belief in what she was capable of building. Instead of giving easy answers, her mentor pushed her to do the work herself, helping her see her blind spots and make stronger, more grounded decisions. That experience reshaped how Jenna leads her own team and how she thinks about growth, including learning to lean into data and numbers even when it felt uncomfortable. Those lessons stayed with her because they were earned, not handed to her.   BEING PROUD OF THE PEOPLE Jenna shares that while she is proud of how many Canadian women Frock Box has styled over the years, what matters most to her is the people who have been part of building it. She never set out to create a workplace designed for moms, but that is what naturally emerged, with flexible hours that make room for school drop-offs and pick-ups. She feels proud of the many women who have come through Frock Box, knowing it has been a meaningful stepping stone in different seasons of their lives. Each person has brought their own strengths and perspectives, and each has shaped her growth as a leader in return. What began as a business has become a place of shared learning, support, and possibility.   ALWAYS BEING CURIOUS TO LEARN Jenna shares that her approach to learning is simple and self-directed. When something sparks her interest, she looks it up, watches videos, and starts exploring. She is curious about learning more coding and is paying close attention to how AI might fit into her business, while still holding onto the importance of the human element. She is also interested in the psychology behind what shows up in the fitting room, noticing how emotional these moments can be for women and wanting to understand that experience more deeply. Her curiosity does not land in just one place. She is energized by learning in many directions at once and finds joy in staying open to what might be worth exploring next.   DREAM CONVERSATIONS For Jenna, it is hard to choose just one person she would love to learn from, because her curiosity stretches in so many directions. She is drawn to people who carry wisdom, energy, and honesty, naming Oprah for her depth and perspective. She also mentions Joanna Griffiths, the founder of Knix, as someone she finds inspiring for how she has built a brand with heart. Jenna is equally drawn to Sara Blakely for her realness, passion, and entrepreneurial spirit. What draws her in is not just success, but how these women show up in the world and share what they have learned along the way. Her list of dream conversations reflects how open she is to learning from many voices and how much she believes in putting curiosity out into the world to see where it might lead.   THE POWER OF CONNECTION “My greatest teachers have been ones who have really taken the time to get to know me and to see me for who I really am.” Jenna shares that the teachers who have shaped her most are the ones who took time to truly see her and connect with who she is, and that this kind of presence has mattered just as much in her life as it has for her kids. She believes every interaction holds the potential for connection, even the small, ordinary ones, and that you never know when a simple conversation might shift your day. She talks about how easy it is to overlook the doors that quietly open in front of us, and how much possibility sits on the other side when we pause long enough to notice them. For her, growth often begins with one small step, one idea spoken out loud, or one moment of courage that allows something new to take shape. ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Have you ever finished a class, a meeting, a workshop, or even a podcast episode and thought, “Okay… but what was the point?” Not because it was poorly done.Not because it lacked care or intention.But because there was so much information – so many ideas, examples, and details – that the thing you were meant to carry with you never quite surfaced. I’ve had that experience many times. And I’ve also been on the other side of it – sharing thoughtfully, preparing carefully, and still realizing afterward that the message didn’t quite land. This episode is about the big idea – the one thing we hope someone carries with them long after all the details fade.   Listen in as we talk about: 1:00 Why the big idea matters 2:43 What’s the big idea?  3:12 When the big idea is missing 4:28 Why clarity on the big idea changes everything 4:52 Where the big idea shows up 5:22 Staying grounded in the big idea 6:50 Questions that create focus on the big idea 7:37 A guiding lens for the big idea 9:17 The cost of an unclear big idea 11:54 So, what’s the big idea?    Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    WHY THE BIG IDEA MATTERS When communication lacks clarity, people leave unsure of what they were meant to understand, remember, or do next. It’s easy to get pulled into sharing more context, more examples, more supporting information often with the best intentions. But without a clear anchor, learning becomes diffuse and effort doesn’t translate into impact. Focus isn’t about doing less; it’s about making meaning visible.   WHAT’S THE BIG IDEA? “The big idea is the anchor. It’s the throughline.” The big idea is the core message beneath everything else. It’s the central question being explored or the one insight someone could still name after the details fade. It gives purpose to examples, stories, and strategies. Rather than asking people to remember everything, the big idea helps them know what to hold onto. Details don’t disappear. They simply fall into place.   WHEN THE BIG IDEA IS MISSING Even well-designed learning experiences can fall flat when the big idea isn’t clear. Content can be thoughtful, engaging, and full of value, yet still leave people struggling to explain what it was actually about. This often happens when everything feels important and nothing is prioritized. In those moments, clarity doesn’t fail because of a lack of effort. It fails because the point was never named.   WHY CLARITY ON THE BIG IDEA CHANGES EVERYTHING When the big idea is unclear, attention scatters and next steps feel uncertain. When it is clear, learning sticks. Conversations gain direction. Decisions feel easier. Clarity doesn’t erase complexity or nuance; it helps people navigate it. It tells them where to focus and what matters most within the messiness of learning and work.   WHERE THE BIG IDEA SHOWS UP The need for a clear big idea extends far beyond formal learning environments. It matters in meetings, strategy sessions, emails, social content, presentations, and everyday conversations. Any time information is being shared or guidance is being offered, a learning experience is taking shape. The underlying question remains consistent: what should someone walk away with?   STAYING GROUNDED IN THE BIG IDEA Clarity strengthens when the big idea is named early, even when it feels obvious. It deepens when the big idea is used as a filter helping determine what supports understanding and what distracts from it. Returning to the big idea throughout a process doesn’t diminish it; it reinforces meaning and connection. Focus is often created not by adding more, but by choosing with intention.   QUESTIONS THAT CREATE FOCUS ON THE BIG IDEA Difficulty naming the big idea is often a sign that more clarity is needed and not more content. Asking reflective questions can surface what truly matters: what’s the one thing someone should remember, what question is being answered, what shift is being invited. When those answers feel fuzzy, it’s an opportunity to refine the message rather than expand it.   A GUIDING LENS FOR THE BIG IDEA Having a single guiding idea, like a word for the year, can shape decisions, attention, and energy over time. A clear lens helps determine what aligns and what doesn’t. It creates consistency without rigidity and focus without pressure. When choices are anchored in something intentional, saying yes and saying no both become easier.   THE COST OF AN UNCLEAR BIG IDEA For people who naturally notice details, patterns, and connections, a missing big idea can feel overwhelming rather than supportive. Without a clear place for information to land, learning can feel exhausting – like holding everything at once with nowhere to rest. Naming the big idea doesn’t remove detail; it gives it structure and purpose.   SO, WHAT’S THE BIG IDEA? Whether you are designing learning, leading teams, creating content, or communicating with intention, the question remains the same: what’s the big idea? What is meant to be carried forward? When that big idea is clear, everything else finds its place. Focus doesn’t come from doing less. It comes from being deliberate about what truly matters.

What does it really take to build a purpose-driven business that reflects your values and grows alongside your life?  In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Julie Cole, Co-Founder and Senior Director of Public Relations of Mabel’s Labels, to explore the deeply human story behind one of Canada’s most loved parenting brands. Julie shares how a simple product gap, combined with her son’s autism diagnosis, became the catalyst for leaving law and stepping into entrepreneurship. Together, we talk about the realities of building a company while raising six children, how values shape leadership and culture, and the long-game mindset required to grow without sacrificing what matters most. This conversation is a reminder that the way we build matters just as much as what we build.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Julie’s story 03:54 The origin of Mabel’s Labels 06:45 Being better together 09:10 The skills that come with you 11:00 Learning as you grow 12:30 The unromantic reality of entrepreneurship 15:51 Building culture with care 20:59 Values as a compass  24:39 Shaping a business idea 28:18 Writing her book 33:00 Giving back with intention 36:55 Learning and growing together with peers 38:43 Looking back with pride 39:38 Learning never stops 42:24 Keeping your brain moving Connect with Julie: LinkedIn:  Julie Cole  Mabel’s Labels Website: https://mabelslabels.ca/ Instagram: @juliecoleinc  @mabelslabels Facebook: @julie.cole @Mabelhood   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    THE ORIGIN OF MABEL’S LABELS Julie reflects on a journey that didn’t begin with an entrepreneurial plan, but with paying attention to what life was asking of her. While working as a lawyer and raising young children, she noticed a simple but frustrating gap for parents trying to keep track of their kids’ belongings. At the same time, her eldest child received an autism diagnosis, which shifted everything and made it clear that being deeply present, flexible, and fiercely supportive mattered more than staying on a traditional career path. The idea for Mabel’s Labels grew at the intersection of these moments – a practical solution shaped by real family needs and built alongside her sister and close friends during an intense season of raising small humans and juggling full-time work. What carried it forward in those early years was community, word of mouth, and a willingness to try, even when the path felt uncertain and demanding. Sometimes the most meaningful work emerges when we respond to a season of change with courage and care, and allow a small idea to grow alongside our lives.   BEING BETTER TOGETHER Julie shares that building a business with co-founders brings both complexity and comfort. With four people at the table, there were different personalities and opinions to navigate, but also complementary skill sets, shared workload, and a sense that the risk felt more manageable when it was divided. Bootstrapping together made starting feel possible, and in the pre-social-media days, having partners meant the journey wasn’t a lonely one. They became built-in support for each other through babies, sick kids, and real life, grounded in care not just for the business but for one another’s families. At the same time, Julie is clear that collaboration only works when there’s alignment – around vision, expectations, and how the work is shared – knowing that effort will ebb and flow as life does. When people are clear on where they’re headed and willing to carry the load together, the work feels not just lighter, but more human.   THE SKILLS THAT COME WITH YOU  Julie reflects on how her legal background, while it once felt far removed from entrepreneurship, became an unexpected asset in building the business. She reminds listeners that none of our past experiences are wasted. We bring every skill set with us, even when our path changes. Within their founding team, each “past life” showed up in practical ways, from finance and design to teaching and law, creating a well-rounded foundation in the early days. For Julie, that meant reviewing agreements, navigating complex conversations, and drawing on problem-solving and negotiation skills that extended well beyond the courtroom. The work may have looked different on the surface, but the thinking behind it was deeply transferable. When you stop questioning why you learned what you learned and start trusting that it shaped how you think, you begin to see how every chapter contributes to what you’re building now.   LEARNING AS YOU GROW Julie describes how growth has a way of revealing both blind spots and hidden strengths, often at the same time. In the earliest days, everyone did everything, working out of a basement and focusing on getting the product out the door. Then the business grew, employees were hired, and suddenly there were entirely new questions about HR, systems, and responsibilities they hadn’t needed to think about before. Each stage brought a fresh round of learning, whether that meant taking a course, bringing in outside support, or figuring out how to navigate technology and e-commerce without anyone being a natural expert. Along the way, gaps became clearer, but so did capabilities they didn’t know they had. Growth doesn’t come from having it all figured out at the start, but from staying curious, adaptable, and willing to learn your way into what comes next.   THE UNROMANTIC REALITY OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP Julie speaks candidly about what it really looked like to build a growing business while raising six young children. The days were long, the nights even longer, and sleep was often sacrificed in favour of packing orders, answering emails, and keeping things moving once the kids were in bed. She pushes back on the glossy version of entrepreneurship, reminding us that behind the talk of freedom and flexibility were basement work sessions at 2 a.m., constant exhaustion, and hard trade-offs. Flexibility made it possible to be present for school trips and family moments, but it didn’t make the work disappear. It simply shifted it to late nights and early mornings. Julie also emphasizes the importance of being honest about capacity, expectations, financial trade-offs, and appetite for risk before diving in. Entrepreneurship can be deeply rewarding, but it demands grit, realism, and a clear-eyed understanding of what you’re choosing to give and to get in return.   BUILDING CULTURE WITH CARE Julie reflects on how growing a team gave her and her co-founders the rare opportunity to intentionally shape the culture they wanted to work in. Having built the company during a season of diapers, playdates, and very full lives, they prioritized values like trust, productivity, and flexibility over rigid hours and appearances. Instead of measuring commitment by who was in the office from nine to five, they focused on goals, outcomes, and whether the work was getting done in a way that supported real life. This approach created a family-friendly environment, strong morale, and remarkable retention, with many team members choosing to stay or even return after leaving. Julie also shares how true growth required learning to let go, delegate, and trust others to do things differently, even when it was uncomfortable. When leaders leave their ego at the door, focus on results, and build systems that work for people and the business, teams don’t just function – they thrive.   VALUES AS A COMPASS Julie shares how core values at Mabel’s Labels aren’t just words on a wall, but living guideposts that shape culture, decisions, and relationships. From hiring and onboarding to partnerships and community involvement, their values help clarify what aligns and what doesn’t, especially when choices feel complicated or tempting. She explains how turning down a collaboration with a larger brand, despite the opportunity it presented, ultimately protected trust, integrity, and the relationship they had worked hard to build with their community. Values also show up in the hills Julie is willing to stand on publicly, including inclusion and human rights, even when it means losing customers along the way. What she’s learned is that values don’t shrink a business. They attract the right people, deepen loyalty, and create a sense of shared purpose that feels bigger than profit. When decisions are rooted in what truly matters, alignment follows, and so does the kind of work you can feel good about at the end of the day.   SHAPING A BUSINESS IDEA Julie frames a business idea as something that often starts with noticing a small but persistent frustration in everyday life – something that could work better, look better, or feel easier. She encourages paying attention to those moments and then getting curious, asking questions, and doing the groundwork to see what already exists and where there might be room to do it differently. That means talking to people, using your networks, learning from others who’ve gone before you, and tapping into local entrepreneurship supports that can help with everything from research to prototyping. Along the way, Julie normalizes hearing plenty of no’s and not worrying about looking foolish for asking honest questions. When you’re willing to stay curious, do your research, and keep reaching out anyway, a business idea becomes something you can actually build – one conversation at a time.   WRITING HER BOOK Julie shares that writing her book grew from a long-held desire to make the journey of building a business and raising a family feel a little easier for someone else. Writing had always been part of her life, from early blogging days to short-form storytelling, but the pause created by COVID finally gave her the space to do it. With travel and events on hold, she treated the book like a side project, writing stories as they came rather than forcing a linear process, and trusting that the pieces would come together later with the help of an editor. She talks honestly about the challenge of staying accountable, the value of simple systems like writing groups, and the importance of getting words down without worrying if they’re perfect. By tackling the hardest tasks first and refusing to let unfinished work linger in her head, she found a rhythm that made progress possible. When an idea keeps hovering, giving it a place to land can clear space for everything else you’re trying to build.   GIVING BACK WITH INTENTION Julie shares how mentoring, community involvement, and advocacy are guided by clear boundaries and a deep sense of purpose. She’s thoughtful about when and how she gives her time, choosing opportunities where she can show up fully rather than saying yes to everything. Giving back, for her, means opening doors for other women, sharing what she’s learned, and staying connected to what’s changing by learning from the people she supports. Whether it’s mentoring entrepreneurs, judging awards, or contributing to causes aligned with her values, she finds that the time and energy she offers often return as inspiration and renewed perspective. As life shifts, so does the way she gives – moving between time, talent, and resources as capacity allows. When generosity is rooted in alignment rather than obligation, it becomes sustaining for everyone involved.   LEARNING AND GROWING TOGETHER WITH PEERS Julie reflects on how learning has shown up in different ways throughout her life, from teachers in her childhood whose lessons stayed with her, to books that shaped her thinking, and now, most meaningfully, through her peers. At this stage of her journey, she finds her deepest learning happens within a trusted group of women who gather regularly and intentionally, despite full lives and busy schedules. This isn’t a space for surface-level encouragement, but one grounded in honesty, constructive feedback, and real support – stepping in for one another, sharing opportunities, and offering guidance without competition. That sense of mutual care and shared growth has become her most valuable learning environment, reminding us that sometimes the teachers we need most are the people walking alongside us, willing to learn and lift together.   LOOKING BACK WITH PRIDE Julie reflects that pride shows up in many layers, beginning with her children and especially her eldest, whose autism diagnosis was the catalyst for starting the business and who has since grown into a thriving, capable adult. That personal journey remains deeply meaningful, but alongside it sits a quieter, equally powerful sense of pride in what the business has made possible. Beyond awards, recognition, and becoming a well-loved brand, she speaks about the responsibility and gratitude that come with employing people and supporting their lives, families, and futures. Knowing that the work they do creates stability, opportunity, and a genuinely good place to show up each day matters deeply to her. In the end, success is measured not just by growth or accolades, but by the people who are cared for along the way.   LEARNING NEVER STOPS Julie shares that staying curious and current is less about chasing big new skills and more about keeping pace with how things are changing. She talks about learning through trends, platforms like LinkedIn, and especially through her team, whose perspectives on marketing, paid ads, analytics, and content strategy keep her thinking fresh and forward-looking. Even when technology doesn’t come naturally, she leans into learning how content connects, engages, and sometimes simply entertains. Along the way, there’s humour in realizing that some of her best teachers are her own kids, who are quick to offer feedback, troubleshooting, and reminders of how fast the digital world moves. Growth, she shows, often comes from staying open, asking for help, and being willing to learn from the people right beside you.   KEEPING YOUR BRAIN MOVING “Learning is non-negotiable. If you rest, you rust.” Julie talks about learning as something woven into everyday life, not confined to classrooms or certain seasons. For her, staying curious and mentally active is essential to how we show up in business, in relationships, and in our own sense of vitality. She compares learning to physical movement, something that keeps us flexible, strong, and engaged over time, and emphasizes how conversation, social connection, and exposure to different perspectives all play a role. Whether it’s keeping up with new ideas, challenging the brain through something complex, or simply staying open to learning from the people around us, she sees it as an ongoing practice rather than a destination. When learning remains part of how we live and connect, it keeps our thinking alive and our worlds expanding.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Have you ever noticed how the hardest part of learning is often the middle – the part no one really talks about? Not the shiny beginning full of ideas, and not the clear ending where everything makes sense, but the in-between space where things are still taking shape. Lately, I’ve been paying more attention to that part – in my work, in conversations, and in the quiet moments where I’m trying something new myself. And the more I notice it, the more I realize how much learning actually lives there. In the drafts. In the experiments. In the moments of uncertainty before clarity arrives. Somewhere in that noticing, the messy middle started to look different. Less like a problem to solve and more like a natural part of how we learn – a place where curiosity stretches us, where ideas shift and evolve, and where we begin to see what’s possible. In this episode, we’ll explore what the messy middle really is, why it shows up in every meaningful learning experience, and how design thinking, brave spaces, and even a good old-fashioned sandbox can help us navigate it with more confidence and heart. Because maybe the messy middle, like so many parts of life, is where real learning takes shape long before we recognize it.   Listen in as we talk about: 1:00 Understanding the messy middle 3:57 Learning in the sandbox 5:54 Design thinking in real life 7:22 Creating safe learning spaces 9:16 Clarity through the messy middle 11:26 Learning through life’s waves 13:44 Making meaning of the messy middle   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    UNDERSTANDING THE MESSY MIDDLE “The messy middle is where the learning actually happens.” The messy middle is the part of learning we rarely talk about, even though most of our growth actually happens there. It’s the space between clarity and confusion, where ideas get tested, reshaped, and sometimes set aside. Kids move through this space naturally. They experiment, adjust, and keep going without worrying about how it looks. Adults still have this ability, but we often forget that uncertainty is part of how we learn. When we start noticing the messy middle rather than resisting it, it becomes easier to see it as a necessary part of moving forward.   LEARNING IN THE SANDBOX At Mount Royal University’s recent Talent Reimagined event, one moment on the Open Recognition panel really caught my attention. Neil Hunter, Chief Learning Officer at Deloitte said something that stayed with me: “The best learning happens playing in the sandbox.” It’s a simple image, but a meaningful one. A sandbox is never perfectly smooth. You build something, change it, add to it, or start again. People join in, ideas shift, and the whole thing evolves. Many adults stop giving themselves permission to work this way, even though experimenting is often what leads to real insight. The sandbox is a reminder that learning doesn’t require a perfect plan. It requires room to explore, adjust, and try again.   DESIGN THINKING IN REAL LIFE Design thinking fits naturally with the messy middle because it’s built on iteration rather than certainty. It starts with empathy, moves into brainstorming, and encourages small tests that reveal what works and what doesn’t. No one expects the first version to be the final one. Each attempt becomes information for the next step. We use this process all the time without naming it – whether we’re troubleshooting a challenge at work or deciding what to make for dinner with whatever ingredients we have on hand. When we embrace learning as an evolving process instead of a straight line, the middle feels a lot less intimidating.   CREATING SAFE LEARNING SPACES Learning deepens when people feel supported enough to take risks. Safe learning spaces aren’t about removing the challenge; they make it possible to stay with the challenge long enough to learn from it. When people trust that their questions are welcome and mistakes won’t be used against them, they’re far more willing to explore and stretch. Whether it’s a classroom, a team environment, or a community space, the tone we set shapes what people feel able to do. When belonging is present, courage follows, and the messy middle becomes something we can move through rather than avoid.   CLARITY THROUGH THE MESSY MIDDLE The messy middle shows up in our own work too. When something doesn’t go the way we hoped, it’s easy to assume it’s a sign to stop. But often, it’s simply information: a nudge toward a new approach, a fresh message, or a different rhythm. When we step back and look again, the middle can bring clarity we didn’t have at the beginning. It helps us see what needs to shift so we can continue moving in a way that feels more aligned with the work we want to do.   LEARNING THROUGH LIFE’S WAVES On a recent trip to Mexico, I ended up in the middle of the ocean’s break zone – right where the waves build their force before crashing. It was messy, loud, disorienting, and I couldn’t stay on my feet for long. But as soon as I moved a little farther out, the waves shifted from pushing me over to lifting me up. Learning often mirrors this. The hardest moments aren’t setbacks; they’re signals that we’re in the part of the process where growth is taking shape. The momentum we’re looking for usually begins right there.   MAKING MEANING OF THE MESSY MIDDLE Reflection helps us make sense of the messy middle while we’re in it. Noticing where things feel challenging, choosing one small step or experiment to try next, and shifting the story we’re telling ourselves about the experience can soften the uncertainty. These small practices don’t erase the middle, but they give us steadiness as we move through it. Over time, we begin to see the learning that’s unfolding, even when it’s not yet visible from the outside.

What changes when learning begins from a place of belonging and connection? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Anita Chowdhury – an educator, researcher, and community leader whose work invites a more relational and compassionate approach to teaching and learning. Anita brings together social justice, arts integration, land-based learning, and engaged pedagogy in ways that honour sustainability, relationality, and care. Our conversation explores how early experiences and relationships shape the way we learn, how community can become a powerful teacher, and why compassion and belonging matter so deeply in the spaces where learning happens. Anita reflects on hope, land, identity, and the small everyday moments that remind us what it means to support one another as humans and learners. It also invites us to notice the learning already happening all around us.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Anita’s story 03:02 Roots in land and learning 08:08 Community learning in practice 13:15 Education as liberation 16:12 Land-based learning 18:08 Compassion at the heart of learning 23:54 Empowerment through Mamas for Mamas 27:26 Strength through support 31:23 Hope in everyday moments 33:25 A teacher’s lasting impact 36:29 Proud moments in learning 37:37 Curiosity for what’s next  39:36 Learning everywhere around us   Connect with Anita: LinkedIn: Anita Chowdhury  Websites: Mamas for Mamas Calgary: https://www.mamasformamas.org/calgary/ Soil Camp: https://soilcamp.ca/ Instagram: @mamasformamas.calgary Facebook: @mamasformamascalgary   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    ROOTS IN LAND AND LEARNING Anita shares that her story begins in British Columbia, where the eco-conscious culture and time spent in her family’s community garden became her first understanding of healing, connection, and caring for the land. These threads now run through her work in land-based learning and community food initiatives. As her life unfolded, she followed her curiosity and opportunities across the country, teaching art history at Mount Royal, training as an elementary educator in Toronto, and navigating the beautiful complexity of raising children while pursuing meaningful work. Through moves to Ottawa, Toronto, and back again, she discovered that each place offered something different, but Calgary kept calling her home with its strong sense of community and compassion. Her journey reflects how our earliest experiences often plant the seeds for the work we’re meant to do. And – that sometimes the place that feels like home is the one that helps us grow the most.   COMMUNITY LEARNING IN PRACTICE Anita describes juggling many roles that unfolded during an unusual moment in history including completing her education degree entirely online during the pandemic. Craving connection and hands-on teaching, she joined an experiential land-based learning program that brought her to a 30-acre regenerative farm supporting refugee children and youth. What began as a volunteer opportunity quickly became a defining experience, blending community, soil, learning, and care in ways that shaped her path forward. This work eventually led her into her master’s research and opened the door to a leadership role with Mamas for Mamas, where she now supports hundreds of families while raising her own. Through all these roles, she’s learned that meaningful work often grows from saying yes to the places and people who need us most. This allows those experiences to reshape what we imagine for ourselves.   EDUCATION AS LIBERATION “Education is a path to freedom.”  Anita shares how her master’s research is deeply influenced by educators like bell hooks and Paulo Freire, whose work introduced her to engaged pedagogy and the idea of education as liberation. With a background in the fine arts, she sees creativity and land-based learning as powerful tools for helping children expand their perspectives and understand complex social issues in ways that feel empowering rather than intimidating. She hopes young people learn that they can make a difference in their world, even through small steps, and that learning can be a space for freedom, expression, and critical consciousness. At its heart, her work reminds us that education becomes transformative when it helps people imagine new possibilities for themselves and their communities.   LAND-BASED LEARNING Anita shares that reconnecting with the land can begin in simple, accessible ways. She talks about how even small acts such as stepping outside for a moment, tending a struggling houseplant, or feeling the grass under our feet can help us rebuild a relationship with the natural world. These everyday practices create space for grounding and reflection, especially during times that feel overwhelming. She also highlights the guidance offered through Indigenous pedagogy, reminding us that Indigenous communities have been teaching land stewardship for generations. Whether through tiny daily choices or community-based efforts, nurturing this connection helps us feel more rooted, present, and supported by the world around us.   COMPASSION AT THE HEART OF LEARNING Anita reflects on how education shifts when we view it through a lens of compassion, maternal care, and nurturing. These are qualities that have shaped families and communities for generations. She shares that empathy isn’t just a soft skill but a transformative force across every subject and setting, especially as children and youth navigate mental health struggles, identity, and belonging. Meaningful learning lives at the intersection of science, art, and heart, and the way people feel in a learning space often matters more than the content itself. Anita connects this to the deep importance of belonging. Community, whether for new moms, newcomers, or children, creates support, identity, and trust. When people feel seen and understood, they are more open to learning, growing, and stepping into who they are becoming. At its core, this reminds us that education is most powerful when it helps people feel connected to themselves, to others, and to the communities that hold them.   EMPOWERMENT THROUGH MAMAS FOR MAMAS Anita shares how her work with Mamas for Mamas has shown her just how deeply education, community, and social supports intertwine in helping families move through and beyond periods of poverty. She explains that many people simply don’t know what resources exist or how to access them, especially when institutional barriers feel overwhelming. By offering gentle, informed resource navigation, the organization helps families understand their options, build confidence, and gradually feel empowered to seek support on their own. Whether it’s connecting a new parent with breastfeeding clinics or guiding someone toward community programs, the right information at the right moment can shift someone’s whole trajectory. At its heart, this work shows how meaningful it is when people don’t have to figure things out alone and how community can open doors that once felt out of reach.   STRENGTH THROUGH SUPPORT Anita shares that becoming a parent sparked a powerful shift in how she sees herself and what she’s capable of. Motherhood pushed her to adapt, grow, and realize she could do hard things even while navigating frontline work, graduate studies, and raising three young children. She talks about how deeply she values her “village,” the people and workplaces that honour her roles as a parent, educator, researcher, and caregiver, and how rare it is to have spaces where bringing a baby to work or prioritizing well-being is truly supported. She also acknowledges that many people don’t have those networks, which is why organizations like Mamas for Mamas are so essential in creating community for families who might otherwise feel isolated. Her experience reminds us that we’re often more capable than we think. But – having people and systems around us that genuinely support our whole selves is what makes it possible to keep showing up with care and energy.   HOPE IN EVERYDAY MOMENTS Anita shares that what keeps her hopeful, even in a world that can feel heavy, is witnessing small, everyday acts of joy. Whether it’s a moment of connection at Mamas for Mamas Calgary or time spent with families on the land, these glimpses of goodness remind her why the work matters. She believes hope is essential in education and community care, guiding us to keep moving forward and helping learners see themselves as part of a brighter future. From young activists to creative thinkers to children with big ideas, she sees so much possibility in the next generation. These moments fuel her commitment to research, advocacy, and supporting families, reminding her that even in challenging times, hope grows wherever people choose to care for one another.   A TEACHER’S LASTING IMPACT Anita shares the story of the teacher who shaped her most deeply: her high school art teacher, Paul Zavos. She remembers him as someone who taught with extraordinary compassion, creativity, and care. These qualities made a far greater impact than any technical skill or polished lesson. His belief in his students and his gentle, nurturing approach opened a pathway for Anita into art education, arts integration, and creative learning. She’s watched many of his former students go on to pursue diverse careers, all carrying threads of the encouragement he offered in his classroom. Anita still keeps in touch with him today, a testament to how meaningful those connections can be long after graduation. It’s a beautiful reminder that one caring teacher can change the direction of a life and that reaching out to tell them often means more than we realize.   PROUD MOMENTS IN LEARNING When Anita reflects on what she’s most proud of, it isn’t the impressive 88-page lesson plan she created early in her teaching journey. It’s watching her own children discover joy in learning. She talks about the quiet magic of seeing them enter new experiences with a little hesitation and then come alive as they make friends, explore ideas, and find fun in the process. For her, learning was always a safe and welcoming space, and seeing her children start to feel that same sense of belonging means more than any accomplishment on paper. It’s a reminder that the most meaningful wins often show up in small, everyday moments when someone we love begins to grow into themselves through curiosity, connection, and play.   CURIOSITY FOR WHAT’S NEXT Anita shares that something she’s looking forward to learning is powerlifting. After returning to her yoga practice and completing her 80th class, she’s been building strength through yoga, Pilates, barre, and training. Seeing friends lift with confidence has sparked a desire to try it herself one day. When she thinks about who she’d love to learn from, she’s drawn to powerful educators and storytellers like bell hooks and Maya Angelou. These are women whose voices have shaped how so many people understand education, justice, and possibility. Her reflections offer a gentle reminder that learning doesn’t end with a degree or a job title. There is always something new to explore, and inspiration often comes from the people who show us what’s possible.   LEARNING EVERYWHERE AROUND US Anita reflects on how much possibility exists in our everyday lives when it comes to learning. She talks about the wealth of accessible knowledge available online and how platforms like YouTube and Instagram have helped her try new things like picking up embroidery through a simple tutorial. For her, it’s a reminder that learning doesn’t have to be formal or structured to be meaningful. If there’s something you’ve been curious about, there’s likely a place to begin right where you are, and it’s worth giving yourself permission to try.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

What sparks someone to create something meaningful and what happens when they follow that spark even before they feel fully ready? For me, this question has been circling for years. As a mom of three teenagers and someone who has spent much of her life in teaching and learning, I’m continually struck by how much wisdom, courage, and clarity young people carry especially when they’re given the space to explore, try, stumble, and keep going. Mercedes and Anastasia Korngut, two Calgary sisters who began their journey with business and podcasting in the midst of their childhood and teen years discovered something powerful about happiness, connection, and sharing your voice. Their story weaves together the science, art, and heart of learning – what happens when curiosity meets action and when two teenagers decide to simply begin. In this conversation, recorded live at PodSummit YYC 2025, we explore where their journey started, what they’ve learned from interviewing world-class guests, the challenges and joys of creating as sisters, and what it means to build something with purpose. I invite you to consider your own spark: What first nudged you toward creating or sharing your voice and how has it shaped the heart of what you do now?   Listen in as we talk about: 2:02 Finding happiness in hard seasons 4:45 Beginning a podcast before feeling ready 7:16 Insights from remarkable guests 9:32 Growing together as sisters  12:12 The thoughtful work behind the mic 14:19 The power of a sincere ask 17:04 The heart behind each episode 21:02 Moments and messages that stick 23:21 Seeing the impact firsthand 25:20 Growing with each episode 28:08 The road ahead   Connect with Mercedes and Anastasia: Website: https://smallbitsofhappiness.com/  LinkedIn: Small Bits of Happiness Instagram: @small.bits.of.happiness TikTok: @smallbitsofhappiness YouTube: Small Bits of Happiness Podcast: Hack Your Happiness Retail Collection: ShopBits   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    FINDING HAPPINESS IN HARD SEASONS When Mercedes and Anastasia began Small Bits of Happiness, they were navigating something we were all moving through together – the uncertainty, loneliness, and disrupted rhythms of the pandemic. Like many young people, they were juggling school from home, friendship changes, and the swirl of big feelings that come with growing up. What helped them most wasn’t a dramatic shift but a quiet practice: paying attention to the small, steady moments that still felt good. These included walks outside, shared meals, and funny movies with their family. Those simple touchpoints reminded them that even in a challenging season, there were still moments worth noticing. Their business grew from this idea – that small bits of happiness can make a real difference, especially when life feels uncertain.   BEGINNING A PODCAST BEFORE FEELING READY Their podcast, Hack Your Happiness, started the way many meaningful things do – with curiosity and a willingness to try. Mercedes and Anastasia didn’t wait to feel fully prepared or confident. They began with what they had: a desire to connect, questions they cared about, and an openness to learning out loud. In those early recordings, they were still finding their rhythm, but each episode taught them something new about their voice, their approach, and the kind of conversations they wanted to have. Their start is a reminder that readiness often comes after we begin, not before.   INSIGHTS FROM REMARKABLE GUESTS Talking with authors, athletes, entrepreneurs, and creators has given the sisters a front-row seat to the stories behind success. What stands out most isn’t the accomplishments, but the common threads that appear again and again: resilience, curiosity, and the willingness to keep learning. Whether it’s a magazine editor, a bestselling author, or an Oscar-winning designer, so many guests return to the same core ideas about growth and fulfillment. Hearing these themes echoed by people from such different worlds has shown Mercedes and Anastasia that meaningful lives are often built through everyday choices, not perfect paths.   GROWING TOGETHER AS SISTERS Working together as co-founders has brought Mercedes and Anastasia even closer. They’ve learned each other’s strengths, found ways to navigate stress, and built a shared language around communication. They’re honest that disagreements happen, especially during busy school seasons or deadlines, but they’ve learned to pause and name what’s really going on rather than reacting to it. Just as importantly, they make space to simply be sisters – dinners without phones, shared movie nights, time spent together that has nothing to do with the business. Their partnership highlights how meaningful work can strengthen relationships when care and connection stay at the centre.   THE THOUGHTFUL WORK BEHIND THE MIC Behind every episode is a mix of preparation, creativity, and intention. Mercedes finds joy in the editing process – shaping a conversation, creating an inviting introduction, and hearing the interview again with fresh ears. Anastasia lights up when she talks about researching guests and crafting questions that feel thoughtful and relevant. Together, they approach each episode as an opportunity to create something that feels genuine and useful. Their process underscores a simple truth: podcasting is part science, part art, and part heart and all three matter.   THE POWER OF A SINCERE ASK When it comes to inviting guests, their approach is refreshingly simple. They look for people whose work they admire and genuinely want to learn from. Then they reach out. They do this with honesty about who they are, why the conversation matters, and the impact they hope it will have. One piece of advice they now carry with them came from NASCAR driver Julia Landauer: “Don’t tell yourself no”. Instead of assuming someone won’t respond or won’t have time, they send the email and let the person decide for themselves. That mindset shift has opened doors to conversations they once couldn’t imagine having.   THE HEART BEHIND EACH EPISODE “You don’t have to have the same expectation of success as everyone else. It can be different and you can aspire to do different things.” ~ Anastasia Korngut At the heart of Hack Your Happiness is a desire to offer something practical and encouraging. Mercedes and Anastasia want listeners, be it teens, parents, educators, and anyone navigating life’s questions, to walk away with ideas they can try, reflect on, or build into their routines. Over time, they’ve also learned that happiness and success aren’t one-size-fits-all. Hearing so many varied stories has shown them that changing your mind, trying new things, and shifting direction are not signs of uncertainty. They’re signs of growth. They hope their podcast helps people feel less pressure to follow a straight line and more freedom to explore what feels right.   MOMENTS AND MESSAGES THAT STICK Certain moments from their conversations linger long after the episode ends. They often return to ideas that helped them rethink their own expectations such as how confidence grows, how opportunities unfold, and how success can look different from person to person. Some lessons have shaped the way they approach decisions; others have simply offered comfort on tough days. What stands out most is how often guests share advice they wish they could give their teenage selves, especially around giving yourself permission to grow at your own pace. These reminders have become steady touch points for the sisters as they navigate school, business, and life.   SEEING THE IMPACT FIRSTHAND While much of their work happens behind a screen or a microphone, some of the most meaningful moments come from hearing how their episodes have helped others. Parents have shared how an interview sparked an important conversation at home. Teens have shared that an idea made them feel understood. Community members have come up to them at events just to say thank you. These moments remind Mercedes and Anastasia that the work they’re doing is reaching real people in real ways. And – sometimes one message, at the right moment, makes all the difference. GROWING WITH EACH EPISODE Looking back on their early recordings, Mercedes and Anastasia are proud of how far they’ve come. They’ve learned to give themselves grace, to improve one step at a time, and to trust conversations enough to let them unfold naturally. They now follow their curiosity more freely, explore ideas beyond their prepared questions, and allow the unexpected to shape the episode. Their reflections offer a reassuring truth. Growth is gradual and every creative journey is built through practice, patience, and staying open.   THE ROAD AHEAD Whether they’re designing new products, preparing to launch their Connection Journal in Indigo stores, or planning future podcast episodes, Mercedes and Anastasia speak about the road ahead with genuine excitement. They’re committed to continuing to learn, to keep refining their craft, and to stay connected to the heart of why they began. Their plans aren’t driven by pressure but by passion. They have a desire to create things that feel meaningful, helpful, and human. That’s exactly what makes watching their journey so inspiring.   — Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and team by going to www.voltproductions.co.   

How can knowledge mobilization transform research into action? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, we explore the insightful world of knowledge mobilization with Dr. Dawn Henwood. Dawn is a former English professor who understands both the arcane delights of research and the challenges of translating complex concepts into language and visuals that resonate with lay readers. Through her company Clarity Connect, she helps researchers develop the communication skills they need to influence partners, policy makers, and funders so their ideas can drive change. Dawn offers practical, business-oriented training that helps bridge the gap between theory and practice. She also produces knowledge translation products, such as impact stories, impact reports, white papers, video scripts, and training materials.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Meet Dr. Dawn Henwood 02:55 Mobilizing knowledge, mobilizing people 05:30 From teaching to translating impact 12:18 From classroom to Clarity Connect 17:45 Misunderstandings about knowledge mobilization 20:48 Getting unstuck and starting small 22:58 Making space for creativity 27:37 Using AI with intention 33:12 Connecting people through knowledge mobilization 36:10 The teachers who shape us 38:47 A turning point in clarity 41:00 Learning from courage 43:03 The fun in learning   Connect with Dawn: Website: https://www.clarityconnect.ca/ LinkedIn: Dawn Henwood   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    MOBILIZING KNOWLEDGE, MOBILIZING PEOPLE Dawn describes knowledge mobilization as the process of moving research beyond academic circles and into communities where it can lead to meaningful, measurable change. While many terms have been used to describe this, like knowledge translation, research dissemination, and knowledge brokering, she explains that knowledge mobilization best captures the complexity of the process. It’s not just about translating findings into simpler language or sharing them widely. It’s about connecting people across systems and disciplines so that research can actually be used and applied. As Dawn puts it, we’re not really mobilizing knowledge. We’re mobilizing people. When those people connect and act on what’s been learned, research truly comes to life.   FROM TEACHING TO TRANSLATING IMPACT Dawn shares how her approach to knowledge mobilization is deeply shaped by learning theory and her background as an educator. She challenges the old “deficit” or “banking” model of education which is the idea that people are empty vessels waiting to be filled with information. Instead, she believes that real impact comes from engaging and enabling people to learn, get excited about new knowledge, and apply it meaningfully.   FROM CLASSROOM TO CLARITY CONNECT Dawn’s career path reflects her move from traditional teaching to helping others apply and share knowledge in practical, impactful ways. She moved from teaching literature and writing into adult education, corporate training and learning design. She discovered that the more complex the information, the more value she could bring through clear communication and thoughtful design. Now, through her company, Clarity Connect, she helps researchers share their work in ways that people can truly understand and use. What she’s learned along the way is that it’s not deep subject expertise that drives meaningful knowledge sharing. It’s curiosity, communication, and the ability to connect across worlds.   MISUNDERSTANDINGS ABOUT KNOWLEDGE MOBILIZATION Dawn highlights some common misconceptions about knowledge mobilization, starting with the idea that it’s a brand new field. While the formal scholarship around it has grown over the past few decades, the concepts have been evolving since the 1970s. People often get overwhelmed by the dozens of theories, models, and frameworks now available, assuming the process has to be rigid or overly complicated. Dawn emphasizes that knowledge mobilization actually draws on skills from multiple disciplines such as organizational change, psychology, rhetoric (the art of persuasion), and learning design. Real-world impact often begins with simple, human-centered actions, like picking up the phone and connecting with the right stakeholders. Even complex ideas can take hold when the focus is on people and relationships first.   GETTING UNSTUCK AND STARTING SMALL When people feel unsure about how to begin making their work connect in meaningful ways, Dawn suggests starting with a mix of learning and connection. For those who like a structured path, there are beginner courses, certificate programs and micro-credentials that introduce the fundamentals of knowledge mobilization and the skills behind it. But getting started doesn’t have to mean enrolling in a program. Dawn also encourages a more hands-on approach: think about who could benefit from your work, learn about them, and begin to build relationships. That could mean attending a conference, engaging on social media, or reaching out to a local community group. Big impact often starts small with genuine curiosity about who your work is for and how it might serve them.   MAKING SPACE FOR CREATIVITY When it comes to knowledge mobilization, Dawn reminds us that creativity and structure go hand in hand. Many people come from academic settings where communication tends to follow familiar patterns such as papers, presentations, posters and teaching. However, impactful sharing often calls for thinking outside the box and beyond those boundaries. To do that, you need time and mental space, which means being intentional about your work habits. Dawn encourages people to be “ruthless” with how they manage their time. This includes clearing inboxes, streamlining projects, and reducing unnecessary stress so there’s room for reflection and creative thinking. When that inevitable creative block hits, she says to recognize it as part of the process rather than a problem. Take a walk, talk ideas through with others, or jot them down when they come to you. Making space for creativity isn’t just about scheduling it in. It’s about creating the conditions where ideas have room to grow.   USING AI WITH INTENTION When it comes to knowledge mobilization, Dawn sees artificial intelligence as both promising and precarious. She’s found it can be a great tool for getting unstuck especially for those who struggle to generate ideas or need help moving from a blank page to a first draft. AI can also play a role in creating plain language summaries or early-stage materials that help research reach more people. But Dawn urges caution. What AI produces can often sound polished yet feel hollow, missing the nuance, emotion, and human connection that make communication meaningful. It can also misread audiences or even introduce mistakes when trying to “fix” writing. For Dawn, AI works best as a creative companion, not a replacement for the thought, care, and skill that come from human experience. The real impact still comes from the person behind the keyboard who is bringing context, heart, and intention to the work.   CONNECTING PEOPLE THROUGH KNOWLEDGE MOBILIZATION For Dawn, knowledge mobilization isn’t just about communicating information clearly. It’s about creating connections that help ideas take root and grow. When she rebranded her company from Clarity Studio to Clarity Connect, she did so to emphasize the human-to-human element that lies at the heart of this work. Clarity is important, she says, but it’s not enough on its own. Knowledge has to resonate to create real change. Increasingly, models and frameworks in this field are recognizing the importance of facilitation – bringing people together, not just sharing ideas with them. In her current work, Dawn sees this in action as researchers, community partners, and funders come together to turn a grassroots initiative into something lasting. When knowledge moves between people, it becomes more than information. It becomes a bridge for collaboration, understanding, and meaningful impact.   THE TEACHERS WHO SHAPE US When asked about a favorite teacher, Dawn immediately thought of Mr. Robbins, her Grade 5 teacher. Unlike most teachers of the time, he brought creativity and fun into every day. He turned lessons into games and sparked a love of learning through what we now might call experiential education. His approach made a lasting impression for Dawn, even decades later. Though she hasn’t been able to track him down, she still carries that sense of play and creativity into her own work, helping others share what they know in ways that connect and inspire.   A TURNING POINT IN CLARITY Looking back on her journey, Dawn shared that one of her proudest moments was winning an academic award for an article she wrote as a graduate student. The recognition was deeply meaningful but it also revealed something important about her path. During an interview soon after, students questioned why her article was written so clearly and engagingly, as though accessibility needed a hidden intellectual motive. That moment stayed with her. Dawn realized she simply wanted people to understand and connect with her ideas, not decode them. While the award marked a high point in her academic career, it also hinted that her future might lie beyond traditional academia – somewhere she could bring clarity, creativity, and connection together in a more open, human way.   LEARNING FROM COURAGE When asked who she’d most love to learn from, Dawn chose Harriet Beecher Stowe, the author of Uncle Tom’s Cabin. Stowe’s writing played a powerful role in shaping public opinion against slavery, but what fascinates Dawn even more is the complexity behind the woman herself. She was a writer, mother, and minister’s wife who faced personal struggles and societal limits yet still managed to influence the world. Dawn wonders what gave Stowe the courage to take on such a monumental task, especially as an outsider to the experiences she wrote about.   THE FUN IN LEARNING As Dawn reflects on her work in teaching and knowledge mobilization, she shares how discovering Choice Theory, a psychological model developed by psychiatrist William Glasser, reshaped how she thinks about learning. One of the core drives in the theory is fun which is something Dawn was surprised to learn she scored high on. At first, she didn’t see herself as a “fun” person, but reading further helped her see how her deep love of learning connects to joy. Learning, she realized, is fun at its core. It’s an intrinsically rewarding process that keeps us curious and engaged. Even when tackling serious issues like climate change or healthcare, Dawn believes it’s vital to spark that sense of fun and connection. This is because people are more open to learning when it feels meaningful and enjoyable. When we approach learning with curiosity and lightness, we invite others to do the same and that’s where true engagement begins.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Have you ever noticed how much learning happens in the places that aren’t classrooms? Not the kind with whiteboards or lesson plans but the kind that unfolds in everyday spaces, like the rink. Lately, I’ve been spending a lot of time there – coffee in hand, tucked into the cold stands, watching games and chatting with other parents. Somewhere between the sound of skates on ice and sticks shooting the pucks, I started to see it differently. The rink isn’t just a place for hockey. It’s a place full of teachers and learners – coaches, players, parents – all figuring things out together. In this episode, we’ll explore what it means to see the rink as a kind of classroom – one filled with lessons about effort, confidence, teamwork, and care. We’ll look at the difference between formal and informal learning, and how some of the most meaningful lessons happen outside of traditional spaces. Because maybe the rink, like so many parts of life, is where real learning shows up when we least expect it.   Listen in as we talk about: 2:10 Learning beyond the classroom 3:29 Coaching with heart 4:38 When lessons land hard 7:12 Parents in the stands 7:56 Formal and informal learning in action 9:02 Reciprocal learning – learning that goes both ways 9:43 Lessons beyond the rink   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    LEARNING BEYOND THE CLASSROOM Formal learning is the structured kind we usually think of – classrooms, courses, and certifications. But informal learning happens in all the spaces in between. It’s the learning that sneaks up on us through experience, reflection, and the people we share moments with. At the rink, you can see it everywhere: players learning resilience after a fall, parents practicing patience, coaches figuring out how to motivate and connect. And really, it’s not just about hockey. It’s the same kind of learning that unfolds on the basketball court, in the dance studio, or around the kitchen table. Some of the most lasting lessons don’t come from a syllabus. They come from life itself.   COACHING WITH HEART Coaches do so much more than teach skills like skating or passing. They set the tone for how young players learn to handle mistakes, celebrate small wins, and work together. Some of the most memorable coaches are the ones who focus not just on the scoreboard, but on connection and care. Like the coach who began the season saying his goal was for players to still love hockey as adults, or the one who wrote each player a personal note recognizing their growth and spirit. Those moments remind us that the best coaching isn’t just about performance. It’s about helping others feel seen, supported, and inspired to keep showing up.   WHEN LESSONS LAND HARD Not every learning experience at the rink goes smoothly, and that’s worth acknowledging. In informal settings like community hockey, there’s no set curriculum. As in any learning experience, formal or informal, things can go wonderfully right or unintentionally wrong. There are moments when feedback misses the mark or when a comment, however small, lands harder than intended. These experiences remind us that every word and action teaches something, whether it’s about skill, confidence, or belonging. In the end, the most meaningful learning happens when awareness meets intention. How something is taught matters just as much as what’s being taught.     PARENTS IN THE STANDS Parents may not run drills or blow whistles, but they play a big role in the learning that happens around the rink. Kids pick up on everything including the cheers, the tone of a reaction, the conversations in the car on the way home. What parents choose to focus on shapes how kids experience the game and themselves within it. When the focus shifts from scores to effort, joy, and curiosity, it sends a powerful message that hockey and learning are about more than performance. They’re about growth, connection, and the way we show up for one another, on and off the ice.   FORMAL AND INFORMAL LEARNING IN ACTION “We don’t need to wait for a classroom to grow. Learning happens everywhere.” Formal learning gives us the structure including the theories, frameworks, and foundations that help us understand what works. Informal learning is where those ideas come to life. It’s where we practice, make mistakes, and discover how things really unfold in the real world – a player helping a teammate up, a band finding its rhythm again, a dancer adapting mid-performance. These are all moments of informal learning in motion. When we start noticing these experiences, something shifts. We begin to see that learning isn’t confined to classrooms or courses. Learning is happening everywhere – in the way we show up, connect, and grow together every day. RECIPROCAL LEARNING – LEARNING THAT GOES BOTH WAYS Learning isn’t one-directional. It flows between everyone involved. Coaches, parents, and peers all teach and learn from each other, often in unexpected ways. Watching a child handle a tough loss, persist through challenges, or find joy in small victories can teach as much as any guidance offered. When learning is reciprocal, it encourages deeper attention, more thoughtful listening, and creates space for growth for everyone, no matter the setting.   LESSONS BEYOND THE RINK Every environment holds opportunities for learning, whether it’s on the hockey rink or elsewhere in life. Informal learning spaces are all around us, shaped by the people we interact with and the ways we show up. Coaches, parents, and players all influence each other through guidance, reflection, encouragement, and example. Paying attention to these moments helps foster connection, curiosity, and growth. Staying open to learning in every challenge and every small step reveals that even the hardest lessons carry insights about who we are and who we’re becoming.

Are you ready for a healthier relationship with technology? In this episode of the People Teaching People Podcast, I’m joined by Tara Stewart, the innovative founder and CEO of NOBLE Technology, a Canadian based tech company. Through her work, Tara is mindfully reimagining the role of technology to prioritize human connection and well-being. As a mother of three, Tara faced the same dilemma so many parents do: when, how, and whether to give her kids smartphones. With societal pressures, the need for connectivity, and no healthy alternatives in sight, she decided to build a better option on her own! Her entrepreneurial determination led to the birth of NOBLE Technology and its first product, BE.connect, Canada’s first child-safe, senior-friendly smartphone. Now taking pre-orders, BE.connect is designed to empower families without the pitfalls of addiction, surveillance, or manipulation. Earlier this year, Tara was selected among the Top 30 startups in the prestigious PITCH competition at Web Summit Vancouver, Canada’s largest tech conference. Tara is a sought-after digital wellness lifestyle promoter, educator, and advocate for responsible innovation. She serves as Chair of the NOBLE Alliance for Digital Wellness and Tech for Good, a Canadian advocacy group influencing tech policy, education, and design standards. She is also the Tech Health and Wellness Expert for Digital Wellness Magazine. Tara’s vision reaches beyond tech products. She’s leading a movement to show that technology can align with the values that truly matter – wellness, trust, and meaningful connection in an increasingly digital world.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Meet Tara Stewart 04:17 From concern to creation 06:24 Simpler times, real connection 09:08 Building tech with integrity 12:36 Mindful tech at home 16:00 Rethinking tech in schools 22:39 Building digital awareness 30:10 A human-centered tech future 32:46 Introducing BE.connect – designed for digital wellbeing 38:59 Lasting lesson from great teachers 41:41 Proudly following a purposeful path 43:35 Learning from Klondike Joe 46:20 Exploring creative outlets 47:27 The importance of human connection   Connect with Tara: Website: https://www.mynobletechnology.com/ LinkedIn: Tara Stewart Instagram: @be.techhealthy Facebook: NOBLE Technology   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    FROM CONCERN TO CREATION What started as a simple search for a safer smartphone option for her kids turned into something much bigger for Tara. As a parent frustrated by the lack of healthy tech choices, she took matters into her own hands – literally gathering old phones and heading to a local engineering firm to ask, “How can we make this better?” What began as a personal project quickly grew as friends echoed the same need, revealing a huge opportunity to create something meaningful. Along the way, Tara discovered an unexpected passion for the world of technology and advocacy, diving deep into conversations about digital rights and how tech shapes our lives. Her journey reminds us that sometimes, the spark for innovation comes from simply trying to solve a problem close to home and having the curiosity and courage to follow where it leads. SIMPLER TIMES, REAL CONNECTION Tara remembers her first phone while living in Germany – a basic model built just for calls and the occasional text, long before devices became constant companions. It was simple, functional, and never felt like something that controlled her time or attention. Reflecting on that experience, she sees how far we’ve drifted from being in charge of our technology. Her passion now is about preserving choice. She wants to ensure people can decide how much tech they invite into their lives, rather than being pulled into systems designed for constant engagement. Her story is a reminder that we can choose simplicity and connection over distraction, and redefine what healthy technology looks like for us and our families.   BUILDING TECH WITH INTEGRITY “We want connection. We don’t want addiction.” Tara describes today’s technology landscape as the wild west. It is advancing faster than governments can regulate and is often driven by profit, speed, and data collection rather than people’s wellbeing. She’s seen the harm this can cause, especially for young people growing up in a world shaped by social media. Through NOBLE Technology, she’s choosing a different path: creating tech built on an ethical foundation where privacy, choice, and human connection come first. Instead of waiting for regulation to catch up, Tara sees a real opportunity to lead change from the ground up – to design tools that connect rather than control, protect rather than exploit. We all deserve technology that supports our lives, not technology that shapes them for us.   MINDFUL TECH AT HOME Tara believes that meaningful change in how families use technology starts with simple, honest conversations. When parents talk openly about their own habits, set boundaries like no phones at night, or even try a family digital detox day, it helps kids reflect on how their devices make them feel. She emphasizes that awareness is the first step. Kids need to recognize the impact of their tech use before they can choose to make changes themselves. Tara also encourages parents to find a community of like-minded families who share similar values and boundaries, making it easier to stay consistent and supported. Her message is a reassuring one: when families lead with mindfulness, communication, and shared commitment, technology becomes a tool for connection and not a barrier to it.   RETHINKING TECH IN SCHOOLS Tara highlights that while technology has incredible potential as a learning tool, schools need to be deliberate and strategic in how they use it. Kids are already immersed in screens, and the classroom can offer a controlled environment to balance that. She points to European models where smartphones are limited, and technology is taught intentionally, helping students develop critical thinking about how tech works, including algorithms and AI. With information and misinformation coming at students faster than ever, learning to evaluate sources, verify facts, and think critically is essential. Tara also notes that social skills and basic life skills are being affected, prompting some schools to reintroduce structured guidance and etiquette to help students navigate real-world interactions confidently. Education today must go beyond content delivery. It should equip students to think critically, communicate effectively, and make thoughtful choices in a rapidly evolving, information-rich world.   BUILDING DIGITAL AWARENESS Tara emphasizes that addressing digital wellness and ethical technology use requires collective effort and strong communities, such as the NOBLE Alliance for Digital Wellness and Tech for Good. Canada is behind in creating frameworks that protect human rights and digital privacy, while other countries have thriving networks focused on “tech for good” and mental health collaboration. She highlights that many people are digitally vulnerable, from children to seniors, and should have the right to choose how they interact with technology. Schools can play a critical role by teaching students their digital rights, helping them advocate for how they learn best, and fostering awareness of safe and mindful tech use. By starting these conversations early, young people can become catalysts for change, educating both peers and adults, and helping everyone make more intentional choices in a tech-driven world. Education and collaboration are essential to ensuring technology serves people, not the other way around.   A HUMAN-CENTRED TECH FUTURE Tara envisions a future where technology truly serves people rather than controlling them, offering devices that are secure, intuitive, and protective of privacy without requiring constant additions or subscriptions. She emphasizes the importance of built-in safeguards like VPNs, data security, and management tools, especially as AI advances and personal information becomes increasingly vulnerable. By embedding ethical restrictions and user protections from the start, technology can empower creativity and innovation while respecting human dignity. A healthier, more human-centered relationship with technology is not just possible. It starts with designing systems that prioritize our security, autonomy, and well-being. INTRODUCING BE.CONNECT – DESIGNED FOR DIGITAL WELLBEING Tara shared the story behind BE.connect, the first device from Noble Technology and a new kind of smartphone designed with wellness and simplicity at its heart. It looks like a regular phone but is intentionally stripped down, no app store, games, or camera, just the essentials like calls, texts, maps, and reminders. The idea is to give kids (and even adults) a way to stay connected without all the distractions, pressures, and risks that come with most devices. It’s a tool that supports focus, safety, and balance – whether that’s in the classroom, at home, or as a second “weekend” phone for adults who want to unplug. BE.connect is currently available for pre-order, with the goal of launching without outside investors so the company can stay true to its “tech for good” mission. Technology should serve our real lives and not pull us away from them.   LASTING LESSONS FROM GREAT TEACHERS When Tara thinks back on her learning journey, two teachers immediately come to mind – each shaping her in a different way. Her Grade 1 teacher, Mrs. Fisher created a classroom filled with warmth, creativity, and care. It was the kind of environment that makes learning feel joyful and safe. Years later, her Grade 9 science teacher, Mr. Goodyear, stood out for his unorthodox yet effective teaching style built on repetition and consistency. His daily tests and layered review helped students build both knowledge and confidence, to the point that everyone excelled – even if it raised eyebrows among administrators because everyone had such good grades! The experience not only changed how Tara learned in school but influenced how she studied and approached learning for the rest of her life. It’s a reminder that the teachers who connect with us, whether through kindness or creativity, often leave lessons that last far beyond the classroom.   PROUDLY FOLLOWING A PURPOSEFUL PATH  When Tara reflects on her journey, what stands out most isn’t a single milestone. It’s her resilience and belief in a vision that many might find daunting. Building a company that stands up to tech giants like Google and Apple isn’t an easy path, but her curiosity, drive to learn, and unwavering commitment to creating something meaningful keep her going. She’s proud of staying true to her purpose, confident that what she’s building will make a genuine difference in how people, especially families, use technology. When your work aligns with your values and you truly believe in its impact, persistence becomes a powerful form of courage.   LEARNING FROM KLONDIKE JOE When asked who she’d most like to learn from, Tara chose Klondike Joe – a larger-than-life Canadian adventurer, storyteller, and charmer. He lived boldly, leaping from one incredible chapter to the next: sailing the seas, jumping on sharks to save his friends, revolutionizing gold mining in the Klondike, leading a hockey team by dogsled (and many other modes of transportation!) to the Stanley Cup, and later becoming a hero and rumored royal companion overseas. What draws Tara to him most is his spirit of adventure and his gift for storytelling.   EXPLORING CREATIVE OUTLETS Tara, a lifelong learner with an insatiable curiosity, is now drawn to exploring physical, hands-on forms of learning. She’s intrigued by creative pursuits like painting or cross-stitch – activities that engage both mind and body and offer a break from the constant presence of screens. It’s a reminder that growth doesn’t just come from intellectual challenges or digital innovation. Sometimes, the most enriching learning happens when we let ourselves slow down, get our hands busy, and explore new, tactile ways of creating.   THE IMPORTANCE OF HUMAN CONNECTION Tara emphasizes that the most powerful learning often happens through human connection, collaboration, and community. In a world where we can get caught up in our own heads or overwhelmed by fear and uncertainty, taking the time to engage with others, help one another, and build supportive networks is invaluable. She shares an example from her children’s schooling in Germany, where independence was encouraged, and the community played an active role in ensuring safety and connection, creating confident, aware, and engaged kids. Learning isn’t just about information. It’s about relationships, shared experiences, and fostering a sense of belonging that can guide both children and adults in navigating the world. ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Who is your favourite teacher?  In this episode, I reflect on the teachers, both inside and outside the classroom, who leave a lasting mark on our lives. From the way they show up in small, everyday moments to the ripple effect their influence carries forward, we’ll explore what makes a teacher unforgettable and how their lessons live on in us. When you listen, I invite you to think about the people who’ve shaped your learning journey, the ones whose presence you still carry, and the ways their impact might be showing up in how you teach, lead, or support others today.   Listen in as we talk about: 02:27 My own favourite teacher (Mrs. Hoglund) 05:57 The ripple effect of a great teacher 07:23 A moment of reflection  08:05 What makes a teacher great?  09:15 Small moments that matter 11:15 The heart of great teachers 12:43 Stories from The People Teaching People Podcast 15:18 A small challenge 16:34 Bringing it full circle   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    MY OWN FAVOURITE TEACHER (MRS. HOGLUND) When I think about my favourite teacher, Mrs. Hoglund, it’s not the lessons I remember but the way she made me feel – safe, welcomed, and excited to learn. That kind of environment stayed with me through school and shaped my decision to become an educator myself. Years later, reconnecting with her was such a gift; she remembered details not just about me, but about my whole family, showing the deep care she carried for her students. Her impact reminds me that the best teachers aren’t defined by what they teach but by how they show up – through kindness, connection, and creating spaces where people feel seen. The real legacy of a teacher isn’t the content, but the connection that lasts long after the classroom.   THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF A GREAT TEACHER “We don’t always realize it in the moment, but when someone teaches us with heart, that moment doesn’t end. It expands. It lives on in the way we show up for others.” The influence of a great teacher, whether that’s a coach, mentor, parent, colleague, or classroom teacher, doesn’t stop in the moment. Their encouragement and belief in us become part of how we move through the world. The way they make us feel safe, supported, and seen often becomes a model for how we show up for others, from the words we share with our kids to the way we lead teams or nurture friendships. And – the most powerful part is the ripple effect: when someone teaches with heart, their impact stretches far beyond that single interaction. Great teachers, wherever we find them, plant seeds that keep growing, shaping not just us, but others we touch.   A MOMENT OF REFLECTION Take a moment to think about a favourite teacher in your life. Maybe it was someone from a classroom, but it could just as easily have been a coach, a mentor at work, a professor, or even a family member who taught you something that still stays with you today. What was it about them that made their influence so meaningful? When we pause to reflect on the people who shaped us – not just with their knowledge, but with their care and presence – we not only celebrate their impact, we also uncover the qualities we hope to bring forward in how we teach, lead, and show up for others. Remembering our teachers helps us become the kind of teacher someone else will one day remember.   WHAT MAKES A TEACHER GREAT When we think about what makes a teacher unforgettable, it’s rarely their polished slides or the perfect lesson plan. It’s their presence. Great teachers show up with consistency, create spaces where we feel safe to be ourselves, ask questions that spark curiosity, and believe in us before we believe in ourselves. They bring humour, humility, and humanity into the mix, reminding us that learning is as much about connection as it is about content. What makes them great isn’t perfection, but the way they make us feel seen, supported, and capable.   SMALL MOMENTS THAT MATTER “Sometimes, the smallest interactions are the ones that leave the longest imprint.” When we look closer at who our favourite teachers are and why – it’s often not the big gestures that stay with us, but the small, everyday ones. The quick smile in the hallway. The laugh after a tech mishap. The way they noticed when something was off and simply asked, “Are you okay?” These weren’t planned or scripted, but they carried so much weight because they told us we mattered. Over time, these ordinary moments become extraordinary in memory – shaping how we see ourselves and how we choose to show up for others. THE HEART OF GREAT TEACHERS “When I think about the heart of great teachers, I think about the way they make us feel known. Not just as learners, but as people.” At the core of every great teacher is something far deeper than knowledge. It’s their humanity. The way they show up with empathy, notice when someone is struggling or thriving, and offer encouragement that feels genuine. They model curiosity and values, not by pretending to have all the answers, but by creating space for questions, mistakes, and growth. Great teachers aren’t just teaching; they’re learning alongside us, showing quiet courage in how they believe in others, even before we believe in ourselves. In the end, what we remember most isn’t the lessons or the grades. It’s the way they made us feel truly known, not just as learners, but as people. And – that is the legacy we carry forward. STORIES FROM THE PEOPLE TEACHING PEOPLE PODCAST Across my podcast conversations, a common thread keeps emerging: the teachers who leave a lasting impact do so through presence, trust, and the way they see us. Jill Drader’s high school psychology teacher opened doors to self-reflection and metaphysics, shaping Jill’s worldview and career. Nikki Stasiuk’s karate sensei pushed her to her limits, teaching resilience and determination that fuel her entrepreneurial journey. And – Susanne Fox’s mentor gave her a moment of trust and confidence that still guides her today. While each story is unique, they all show the same truth: the most meaningful teaching moments aren’t just about content. They stay with us, shaping how we think, lead, and grow. The takeaway is clear: the lessons that linger are the ones taught with care, belief, and presence.   A SMALL CHALLENGE Here’s a small but powerful challenge: reach out to a teacher, mentor, coach, or guide who’s stayed with you and let them know the difference they made. Go beyond a simple “thank you” and share what you remember, what stuck with you, and how they shaped who you are today. And – as you continue your own learning journey, take a moment to acknowledge anyone new who inspires or supports you. It matters more than we often realize. For those teaching or guiding others, remember that people may not recall every lesson you give, but they will remember how you made them feel. The impact of showing up with care and presence can last a lifetime.   BRINGING IT FULL CIRCLE Learning is often measured by what we know or what we pass on, but the most powerful teaching is the kind that touches who we are. Take a moment to reflect: how do you want others to feel when they’re learning with you? What kind of experience – safe, exciting, human – do you want to create? And whose lessons are still shaping the way you show up for others? Those teachers continue to influence us long after the moment has passed. Every interaction is an opportunity to be someone’s unforgettable teacher, even if you don’t hear it aloud.

Have you ever wondered what it takes to build a community-focused business from the ground up? A place where the simple act of enjoying a cup of coffee goes beyond the drink, serving as a catalyst for connection and creative gathering? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I explored this question with Jill Law, owner of Social Grounds, a unique coffee shop and community hub in the community of Oakridge in Calgary, Alberta. Jill’s journey of creating Social Grounds wasn’t just about starting another coffee shop. It was born from a sense of purpose and a desire to contribute to her community. With over 17 years of experience as a realtor, Jill found that while real estate provided flexibility, she yearned for deeper community connections. This longing, compounded by encouragement from family and friends, led her to create a place where people can gather, socialize, and create together. What does it mean to run a community-centered business like Social Grounds? For Jill, it involves being a barista, events coordinator, and social media manager, among other roles. Despite the challenges, she has discovered her own capabilities and resilience through this process.  Jill’s emphasis on community extends to the products sold within Social Grounds, which feature locally sourced goods from Canadian small businesses. This not only supports local entrepreneurs but also ensures that the shop can contribute positively to the wider community. Jill advises those wanting to start their own community-focused business to “really like people” and emphasizes passion over profit. Her story is a testament to the power of community and connection, highlighting how businesses can be both successful and meaningful when rooted in genuine care and love for the people they serve.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Meet Jill Law 03:44 The Heart of Social Grounds 08:27 Learning As You Go 10:30 Turning Missteps Into Lessons 12:27 Listening to the Community 13:57 More Than Just Coffee 17:20 A Business with Purpose 18:28 Growing at the Right Pace 19:42 People Are What Matters 22:11 Expanding With Intention 24:32 Family and Life Lessons 26:25 Love People, Love the Work  27:22 The Best Teacher 29:54 Proud of It All 32:51 Learning from Martha Stewart 34:18 Sharing Skills and Gifts 36:55 Kindness and Passion in Learning   Connect with Jill: Website: https://www.socialgroundsyyc.ca/ LinkedIn: Jill Law Instagram: @socialgroundsyyc Facebook: Social Grounds Visit Social Grounds! #11 3109 Palliser Dr. SW, Calgary, Alberta   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    THE HEART OF SOCIAL GROUNDS “I may not know anything about running a business, about coffee or running a fitness studio, but I do know the need for connection.” Jill shared that the dream of Social Grounds had been brewing for years before it came to life. As an entrepreneur at heart, she saw the lack of a true gathering place in Oakridge and the surrounding neighborhoods, despite thousands of residents, and felt compelled to create one. Her journey to opening the doors was shaped by experiences in real estate, community associations, and even accounting. Each role gave her something unique: the hustle and responsibility of real estate, the joy of planning events and fostering community through associations, and the organizational and leadership lessons from working with a supportive employer. Together, these threads built her confidence to take the leap into creating a space centered on people and connection even without prior experience in coffee or business ownership. The heart of Social Grounds is all about community. You don’t need to have all the answers to start something meaningful. You just need to see the need, trust your strengths, and take that first step.   LEARNING AS YOU GO Jill opened up about what it’s really like to juggle all the roles that come with running Social Grounds – from barista to bookkeeper and everything in between. She admitted that at first, many of the tasks felt daunting, but with encouragement from her husband and her own determination, she discovered just how capable she truly is. Whether it’s mastering the point-of-sale system, managing staff, or learning the ins and outs of social media, Jill has embraced the reality that it’s all on her to make it work. What stands out most is her mindset: challenges will always come up, but you figure it out as you go. You don’t need to have it all figured out before you start. Confidence grows in the doing.   TURNING MISSTEPS INTO LESSONS Jill shared that some of her best learning has come from the moments when things didn’t go as planned. Long before Social Grounds, she tried launching a meal prep business, only to end up with soup spilling down her walls and the realization that it just wasn’t the right fit. Instead of seeing it as a failure, she recognized it as a sign of her entrepreneurial spirit and a stepping stone toward something better. That same mindset carries into Social Grounds today – whether it’s canceling an event due to low turnout or tweaking offerings to better serve the community, she views each misstep as valuable feedback rather than defeat. Not everything you try will stick, and that’s okay. What matters is what you learn and how you keep moving forward.   LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY Jill explained that in the early days of Social Grounds, all the ideas and events came directly from her, but over time she’s learned to rely on the community for inspiration. Now, many local practitioners and residents approach her with ideas for classes and events that align with the same goal of bringing people together. She pays close attention to what the community wants, listens to feedback, and lets that guide the next steps. By staying open and responsive, she ensures the space evolves in ways that truly matter to the people it serves, showing that growth often comes from tuning in as much as taking the lead. MORE THAN JUST COFFEE Jill described Social Grounds as a space that goes beyond being a typical coffee shop. Think of it as the “Cheers” of coffee shops, where regulars feel instantly at home and strangers often connect through simple acts of kindness. The space combines coffee with a yoga and wellness studio, a DIY arts and crafts area, and a variety of events, creating a hub for connection and creativity. Jill has also curated a retail corner that highlights local products, supports small businesses, and gives back to meaningful causes. From the coffee and ice cream to the handmade crafts, every choice reflects a commitment to community and meaningful impact, showing that thoughtful intention can turn a business into a gathering place that uplifts everyone who walks through the door.   A BUSINESS WITH PURPOSE Jill emphasized that she didn’t start Social Grounds to get rich or famous, but because she genuinely loves people and wanted to give back to her community. For her, building a business is about aligning it with her passions – wellness, fitness, creativity, and connection – rather than simply owning a business for the sake of it. She believes that when a business reflects your authentic interests and values, it naturally creates a space that resonates with others. By focusing on purpose over profit, Social Grounds has become a hub where people come together, showing that the best businesses are built when the motivation is meaningful and heartfelt.   GROWING AT THE RIGHT PACE Jill shared that growing Social Grounds too quickly could lead to mistakes, so she’s committed to a slow and steady approach. By intentionally keeping marketing minimal and letting most of the business come from word of mouth and community connections, growth happens organically. She enjoys seeing new people discover the space through reviews and recommendations, all while keeping operations manageable and ensuring systems are in place. For Jill, pacing growth thoughtfully means building confidence, maintaining quality, and creating a strong foundation that can support future expansion without feeling overwhelmed. It shows that sustainable success comes from patience and intentionality, not rushing to scale.   PEOPLE ARE WHAT MATTERS For Jill, the part of running Social Grounds that truly fills her cup is the people. She finds joy in connecting with everyone who walks through the doors – from grandparents reading with their grandkids to a senior who comes daily just to be part of the community. For her, these connections define success, even more than the business itself. She’s also created a small, welcoming corner for kids, giving families a space to relax and enjoy while little ones play with simple toys and books. By focusing on creating a place where everyone feels included and valued, Jill shows that a business thrives when it’s built around genuine human connection.   EXPANDING WITH INTENTION While coffee remains her favourite part of Social Grounds, Jill’s focus for the coming year is to grow the workshops, classes, and other community offerings, making sure each space is filled and meaningful for participants. She plans to step back slightly from daily barista duties to dedicate more energy to these areas, while maintaining the intimate, community-centered feel of the business. Looking ahead, she envisions opening two more locations, each with its own unique focus – wellness, music, or arts and crafts – always ensuring that each new space feels authentic and connected to her values. Her approach shows that growth doesn’t have to mean rushing; it can be intentional, measured, and aligned with what truly matters.   FAMILY AND LIFE LESSONS  ”Life is what you make it. It doesn’t matter where you came from. Your destiny is your destiny. It’s what you make it to be.”  Jill reflected on how her family has shaped her journey, describing a supportive partnership with her husband – each taking turns to pursue their dreams while supporting the other. Being a mother has been her most cherished role, but starting Social Grounds was also about showing her children that it’s possible to pursue your passions, take initiative, and create your own path in life. She wants them to see that where you come from doesn’t define your future and that you can be a parent, a partner, and build something meaningful all at once. Her story illustrates that family can be both a grounding force and a source of inspiration, encouraging you to dream big while staying rooted in what matters most.   LOVE PEOPLE, LOVE THE WORK When Jill was asked what advice she’d give someone thinking about starting a community-focused business, her answer was simple: you have to genuinely love people. She shared how the work often means spending entire days talking and connecting, only to come home to family who also want your attention. So, knowing when to pause and reset is key. But for Jill, the rewards far outweigh the challenges. She described the experience as deeply fulfilling, comparing it to the joy of raising children – watching something grow and seeing the real difference it makes in people’s lives. If you’re building something for your community, do it for the right reasons and let your love for people guide you.   THE BEST TEACHER When asked about a teacher who’s had the greatest influence on her, Jill didn’t point to someone from school or work. She immediately thought of her dad. What makes him so special, she shared, is the way he treats people: warmly, respectfully, and with genuine care. He has a way of making anyone feel comfortable, remembers people’s names, and lives with a spirit of hard work and generosity. Beyond that, he’s been hands-on in helping Jill build her community space, from constructing the coffee bar to creating unique art pieces that now fill the space with his creativity. Jill’s reflection reminds us that some of the best teachers in life aren’t in classrooms. They’re the people who quietly show us, through their actions, how to treat others with kindness and heart.   PROUD OF IT ALL When reflecting on what she’s most proud of, Jill said it’s really everything – though she doesn’t often give herself the chance to pause and feel it. Usually, life moves too quickly, with kids, work, and responsibilities pulling her forward. But one day after a high tea event, when the space was finally quiet, she sat down and let the moment wash over her. For the first time, she looked around and thought, “I did this.” It was overwhelming in the best way, realizing how Social Grounds had grown into something even bigger than she had envisioned. The high tea itself has become a special community tradition, filled with fine china, treats, and new friendships – all sparked by an idea from one of their community members. Jill’s reflection is a powerful reminder that while it’s easy to focus on what’s next, it’s just as important to pause and celebrate how much we’ve already created.   LEARNING FROM MARTHA STEWART When asked who she’d love to sit down and learn from, Jill chose Martha Stewart. She admitted she’s not sure she’d like her personally, but she deeply admires Martha’s intelligence, drive, and ability to build something remarkable. Jill would want to ask her big questions: How did you know when it was time to grow? How did you decide what to do next? And how did you pick yourself back up after setbacks, even something as public as going to jail? What resonates most is Martha’s belief that women can have it all – being a mom, a wife, and a business owner – and Jill sees pieces of her own journey reflected in that. Success often comes from courageously asking “why not me?” and daring to pursue growth even when the path isn’t straightforward.   SHARING SKILLS AND GIFTS Jill explained that many of the classes at Social Grounds, like yoga, fitness, and arts and crafts, grew naturally out of her community connections. She first invited a local yoga instructor she knew through her kids’ school, who then recommended others. Sometimes people reach out directly, and Jill makes sure to see a sample of their teaching to ensure it’s a good fit. The arts and crafts sessions started with a mom from the community who had experience leading scouts and brownies. Jill’s not about to teach yoga or how to make crafts herself. It’s about relying on the talents of others and giving them space to shine. Today, Social Grounds offers opportunities for all ages, from kids’ craft time to mom-and-baby fitness and adult-only wellness events. Jill’s advice? Not everything will work out perfectly, but if you stay open, kind to yourself, and willing to learn from others, you’ll keep creating something meaningful.     KINDNESS AND PASSION IN LEARNING Jill shared that when it comes to teaching, learning, or starting something new, it’s important to accept that not everything will work out perfectly—and that’s okay. Being gentle with yourself and open to learning from others makes the journey so much easier. She also talked about how much difference it makes to choose something you truly love, because when you’re passionate about what you’re doing, even the challenges don’t feel quite as heavy. It’s a lovely reminder that the best paths are the ones fueled by kindness, curiosity, and a genuine love for the work. ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Have you ever caught yourself thinking, “I wish there was a clearer way to explain how I work or teach”? I’ve been there, too.  For me, frameworks have become one of those quiet, powerful tools that help turn scattered thoughts into something clear and meaningful. They aren’t just buzzwords or complicated diagrams. They’re ways to make the invisible parts of our work visible, helping us organize ideas, decisions, and intentions so we and the people we work with can see the heart of what really matters.  In this episode, we explore what frameworks are, why they matter, and how they can help us design, lead, and connect with purpose – whether it’s guiding students through research projects, creating learning experiences, or shaping your own approach to work. Think of frameworks as bridges that connect ideas to action and people to each other.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 A key tool in my tool belt 02:47 Making the invisible – visible 05:25 A framework for engagement 09:06 Designing learning with heart 10:53 Why frameworks matter 12:55 Shaping your framework 15:00 Framing your work forward   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    MAKING THE INVISIBLE – VISIBLE “A framework is really about making something invisible… visible. It gives shape to what you value, what you do, and how you do it.” So, what is a framework, really? It might sound like a stuffy corporate buzzword, but at its core, a framework is simply a structured way to organize your thinking. It’s like swapping out a messy junk drawer for a neat, labelled filing cabinet helping you (and others) make sense of your ideas, decisions, and approach. Frameworks don’t have to be fancy. They can be a simple model or a detailed visual  guide. What matters is that they bring clarity and meaning to your work. In fact, you’re probably already using frameworks without realizing it – in how you give feedback, lead a meeting, or make decisions. The power comes when you name and shape those patterns with intention, turning them into tools that are not only useful to you, but usable and shareable with others. A good framework doesn’t complicate things. It helps you see what matters, how it connects, and how to share it in a way that truly makes sense.   A FRAMEWORK FOR ENGAGEMENT Creating the ARIS Hub Student Engagement Framework for Applied Research and Innovation Services at SAIT, the Southern Institute of Technology, was less about checking boxes and more about asking the right questions. My colleague Teresa Bent and I spent two years exploring what meaningful student engagement really looks like in applied research – where timelines, partners, and projects are constantly shifting. We didn’t start with a polished plan. We started with curiosity, sticky notes, and honest conversations. Over time, key themes like purpose, roles, quality, and impact became the backbone of a framework that now helps guide, support, and reflect on student involvement in a clear, consistent, and human way. It includes everything from shared language to guiding principles but at its heart, it’s about creating positive, growth-oriented experiences for everyone involved. When frameworks are rooted in real questions and lived experience, they become more than just tools. They become trusted guides for meaningful connection and impact.   DESIGNING LEARNING WITH HEART In my consulting work, I wanted a way to capture what truly matters in learning design – not just the content, but the connection. That’s how the People Teaching People Framework came to life. It’s a visual, human-centered tool that guides facilitators, entrepreneurs, and organizations in creating meaningful learning experiences across all kinds of settings. At its core is a belief that great learning happens when people connect with each other and with purpose. The framework blends science (the structure and strategy), art (the creativity and energy), and heart (the connection and impact). Whether I’m supporting a client or speaking to a room full of educators, this framework helps bring clarity to my work and invites others to reflect on their own approach to teaching and learning. The most powerful learning experiences aren’t just well-structured. They’re deeply human, rooted in connection, and designed with both the head and the heart in mind.   WHY FRAMEWORKS MATTER Creating a framework isn’t just about organizing your work. It’s about bringing clarity, purpose, and connection to what you do. A strong framework helps you make sense of your ideas, communicate your approach, and support more thoughtful decisions. It becomes a reference point you can return to, and more importantly, it empowers others to take your ideas and make them their own. The best frameworks aren’t rigid. They’re adaptable, like recipes you can season to taste. They grow alongside you. And yes, it can feel vulnerable to put your thinking out there. But doing so invites others into the process and builds stronger, more meaningful collaboration. A great framework doesn’t just explain your work. It amplifies it, invites others in, and evolves with you.   SHAPING YOUR FRAMEWORK When it comes to creating your own framework, there’s no one-size-fits-all approach and that’s a good thing! The most effective frameworks are the ones that fit your context, your people, and your purpose. Start by asking: Who is this for? Why am I creating it? What do I want it to include? Whether you’re designing for a small team or an entire organization, your answers will shape everything from the language you use to the structure you choose. And – don’t forget the visual piece. Even a simple sketch can help turn abstract ideas into something tangible and memorable. A great framework not only captures what you do, but helps others understand, connect with, and apply it in meaningful ways. There’s no “right” way to build a framework. Just the right way for you. Start with purpose, design with people in mind, and keep it simple, clear, and useful.   FRAMING YOUR WORK FORWARD Frameworks aren’t just about organizing ideas. They’re powerful tools that help bring clarity, deepen understanding, and strengthen the way we communicate and collaborate. Whether you’re designing a program, leading a team, teaching a course, or running your own business, a framework can act like a blueprint that supports your goals and reflects your values. And – the truth is, you might already have the beginnings of one in your notes, routines, or the way you show up in your work. It doesn’t need to be perfect or polished. It just needs to be honest and useful. If it helps bring focus, connection, and meaning to your work, that’s the start of a great framework. You don’t have to build it all at once. Just start putting the pieces together.

What happens when physiotherapy care goes beyond treating just the injury? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with someone I’ve known my entire life – my younger brother, Tyson Plesuk. Tyson is a sports and manual physiotherapist, a three-time Olympic medical team member, and co-owner of Movement Sports Clinic. Our conversation was an exploration into what it means to lead, teach, and grow through movement, injury, and recovery. Tyson’s journey into physiotherapy began with an injury at age 15 and the care of an athletic therapist who not only treated his body, but inspired his future. Since then, Tyson’s career has spanned amateur and professional sport, international competition, and community health. He has worked with everyone from Olympic athletes to grandparents chasing their grandkids, always bringing the same level of care, curiosity, and connection. What sets Tyson apart is his deep commitment to lifelong learning and his belief that healing is a team effort. In our conversation, he shares how his competitive drive and love of sport translate into a constant pursuit of excellence – not just for himself, but for his patients, his team, and his own children, whom he now coaches. We talk about the evolution of physiotherapy, what it means to teach and empower patients, and how mentorship plays a key role in his clinic’s culture. Tyson also opens up about pinch-me moments in his career – from walking in the Olympic opening ceremonies to helping athletes achieve gold – and the many mentors who shaped him along the way. Whether you’re dreaming of a career in physiotherapy, navigating your own recovery, or just love a good story of perseverance, leadership, and growth, this episode will leave you inspired. Tyson’s journey reminds us that education isn’t just found in classrooms. It’s lived on ice rinks, in treatment rooms, through coaching, and in every small act of care that helps someone move forward.   Listen in as we talk about: 04:55 Tyson’s journey into physiotherapy 07:43 Commitment to continuous learning 10:19 From challenges to pinch-me moments 12:42 Learning together, healing together 20:12 The heart of leadership 23:09 Advice for aspiring physiotherapists 25:10 Life lessons through sport 26:30 Continuing to grow in physio 28:08 Coaching, learning, and growth 30:40 Lessons from mentors 35:06 Proud moments through partnership 37:24 A growing curiosity for pickleball 38:39 Learning from a legend 39:37 Creating your own luck   Connect with Tyson: Websites:  Tyson Physiotherapy: https://tysonphysiotherapy.com/ Movement Sports Clinic: https://movementsportsclinic.ca/ LinkedIn: Tyson Plesuk Instagram:  @tyson_physio @movesportclinic Facebook: @movementsportclinic   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    TYSON’S JOURNEY INTO PHYSIOTHERAPY When Tyson was just 15, a hip flexor injury at a hockey camp started his pathway towards a career in physiotherapy. A caring and skilled athletic therapist named Rick Chamney helped him recover so effectively that Tyson skated off the ice inspired, wondering if a role like Rick’s could be his career in the future. From there, Tyson explored related paths like sports medicine and chiropractic, but volunteering under physiotherapist Kathryn Jeans cemented his decision. Watching her guide people from injury to full recovery showed him the powerful and personal role physiotherapists can play in someone’s journey.    COMMITMENT TO CONTINUOUS LEARNING Tyson’s dedication to continual learning stems from two big parts of his story. First, he started hockey later than most kids, which lit a fire in him to catch up – putting in extra time at the rink and practicing endlessly, even using his younger sister as a stand-in goalie. That early lesson stuck: if you want to grow, you’ve got to go the extra mile. Second, his passion for helping others, especially athletes, fuels his desire to always learn more and improve his skills. Even after 18 years as a physiotherapist, he still sees endless room to grow. And while his competitive spirit once led to Monopoly boards flying across the room, he now channels that same drive into being the best support he can be for his clients and a great example for his kids.   FROM CHALLENGES TO PINCH-ME MOMENTS Tyson’s journey into physiotherapy wasn’t without its hurdles – getting into physio school was one of the biggest. He recalls a high-pressure, performance-based interview where he had to navigate challenging scenarios, including one where he had to assert himself in a group discussion just to be heard. But those early experiences helped build the confidence and determination that would later take him to incredible heights. One of his proudest moments was representing Canada as part of the medical staff at three Olympic Winter Games. That dream began when he was a kid watching the Calgary Winter Olympics, determined to one day wear the maple leaf. While he didn’t end up competing as an athlete, being part of the athletes’ journey as a physio felt just as meaningful. Another standout moment was being recognized as one of Canada’s top physiotherapists during the profession’s 100-year celebration – an honour shared with mentors and legends he had long admired.   LEARNING TOGETHER, HEALING TOGETHER “ I have a thirst for knowledge, and am always looking for different ways to keep learning. I like to challenge my ideas. I don’t want to just do the same thing.” Tyson’s commitment to staying current in the ever-evolving world of physiotherapy comes from a deep curiosity and a desire to do better for those he works with. He keeps learning through courses, conferences, journals, and even social media, while also exchanging knowledge with his clinic team. But learning isn’t something he does alone. It’s woven into every part of how he works with patients. Whether he’s helping an Olympian or someone’s grandma, Tyson believes in building a partnership grounded in education and mutual feedback. He takes time to explain injuries, uses tools like personalized video demos, and encourages people to take ownership of their recovery. For him, listening is just as important as teaching, and the goal is always to grow – together.   THE HEART OF LEADERSHIP From the hockey rink to the clinic, Tyson’s approach to leadership has always been rooted in responsibility, communication, and leading by example. As a young assistant captain and later team captain, he learned the importance of showing up consistently, working hard, and including everyone on the team. Now, as a clinic co-owner and mentor to students, he continues to carry those same values – prioritizing clear communication, team-building, and creating a supportive environment. He believes leadership isn’t about being the loudest voice in the room but about being intentional, inclusive, and committed to growth for yourself and those around you. Leadership doesn’t have one look or sound. What matters most is showing up with integrity, care, and a willingness to grow alongside others.   ADVICE FOR ASPIRING PHYSIOTHERAPISTS If you’re curious about a career in physiotherapy, Tyson encourages getting hands-on experience early on. Volunteering in different settings, from sports clinics to hospitals to neurological rehab, can give you a real sense of the many paths within the field. He points out that while most people picture physio as sports-related, the profession actually spans everything from cardio-respiratory recovery to stroke rehabilitation. Tyson also recommends reaching out to practicing physiotherapists to hear firsthand what the work is really like. He’s always happy to chat with those interested in the profession. The best way to know if physiotherapy is right for you is to step into the spaces where it happens and talk to the people who do it every day.   LIFE LESSONS THROUGH SPORT Tyson shares how his experience in sports has shaped who he is far beyond the rink. He’s a strong believer in the power of sport – not just for physical activity, but for learning how to work as a team, build resilience, and push through challenges together. He recalls a standout season with an underdog hockey team that, through grit and unity, became league champions and national bronze medalists. That experience taught him how powerful it is when people align around a shared goal and commit to giving their best. Today, those same lessons influence how he approaches his work, relationships, and everyday challenges. Some of the most lasting and meaningful lessons don’t come from a classroom. They come from the communities and experiences that teach us how to show up, work together, and keep going.   CONTINUING TO GROW IN PHYSIO Even after achieving some of the biggest goals in his field, including supporting Olympic athletes and being named one of Canada’s top 100 physiotherapists, Tyson isn’t done dreaming or growing. He’s passionate about mentoring the next generation of physiotherapists, offering them the same kind of support and guidance that helped shape his own path. He’s also expanding his work on the ice, helping hockey players return from injury with a full-circle rehab approach that moves from clinic to gym to rink. It’s clear Tyson’s commitment to learning, evolving, and helping others thrive continues to drive him forward.   COACHING, LEARNING, AND GROWTH Coaching his own kids in hockey and basketball has been a deeply rewarding, and at times humbling, experience for Tyson. While hockey felt familiar after years of playing, he still challenged himself to adapt his coaching style to each player’s learning needs. Basketball, on the other hand, pushed him completely out of his comfort zone. With limited personal experience, Tyson dove into coaching courses and online resources, determined to grow alongside the team. In both cases, he found joy in watching the kids develop their skills and come together as strong, connected teams.   LESSONS FROM MENTORS When asked about his favourite teachers, Tyson shared a beautiful tapestry of gratitude, naming mentors from every stage of life. His parents top the list – his mom, for her unwavering care and kindness, and his dad, for the gift of communication and connection, all of which Tyson now sees as vital in his physiotherapy practice. A standout school memory came from his grade two teacher, Mrs. Hoglund, whose warmth and ability to inspire made a lasting impact especially during an Olympic year that lit a spark in him. Tyson also spoke about the many physiotherapy mentors who guided his early career, from supportive colleagues like Louise Taylor, now Tyson’s business partner, and Andrea Kosa, to leaders like Louise Vien and Kevin Wagner who helped shape his path in high-performance sport. Great teachers, whether in life, school, or work, leave lasting marks not just through what they know, but through how they care, connect, and invest in others’ growth.   PROUD MOMENTS THROUGH PARTNERSHIP One of Tyson’s proudest professional moments comes from his ten-year journey supporting Canadian Olympic bobsled pilot Justin Kripps. Starting as a young physio in 2012, Tyson began working with Justin just as he transitioned into piloting. Faced with challenges, like achilles tendon issues that held back his sprinting, Tyson and Justin created a plan to get him back on track. Despite setbacks like a crash at his first Olympics and other injuries along the way, their partnership remained strong. Tyson speaks with admiration about Justin’s professionalism, consistency, and drive – qualities that not only shaped Justin’s path to Olympic gold in 2018 and bronze in 2022, but also pushed Tyson to grow into a stronger physiotherapist.   A GROWING CURIOSITY FOR PICKLEBALL When asked what he’s curious to learn next, Tyson shared that he’s been noticing a rise in pickleball injuries – despite never having played the sport himself. True to his learner mindset, he’s challenged himself to pick up pickleball not just recreationally, but as a way to better understand and treat the injuries he’s seeing in his practice. For Tyson, understanding the movement and mechanics firsthand helps him offer more thoughtful and effective care. And with a pickleball net heading out to the cabin this summer, he’s hopeful some hands-on experience is just around the corner.   LEARNING FROM A LEGEND When asked who he’d love to learn from, Tyson didn’t hesitate – Mark Messier. As a kid, Messier was his favorite hockey player, but admiration grew deeper as Tyson started taking on leadership roles himself. He studied how Messier led with confidence, treated his teammates, and created a strong sense of team unity. Having once met him briefly at West Edmonton Mall as a child, Tyson would now love the chance to sit down with him and talk about leadership, handling team dynamics, and what it truly means to be a great teammate.   CREATING YOUR OWN LUCK Tyson shares that setting big goals and working backward to create a clear plan has been key in his journey – from aiming for the Olympics as a physiotherapist to working with high-level hockey players. He emphasizes persistence, even when doors close, because the right opportunity can come when you least expect it. Tyson recalls how treating one hockey player led to working with an NHL athlete, showing that chances often come through connections and being prepared. His advice is simple but powerful: no matter who you’re working with, whether a grandparent or a pro athlete, always give your best care, be genuine, and show you truly care. ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Have you ever noticed how often we move from one thing to the next… without pausing to take in how far we’ve come? The moments that shaped us? The quiet strength it took to juggle so much, and still show up with heart? Over the years – as a mother, an educator, and someone committed to learning out loud – I’ve realized that our journeys are rarely linear. They’re layered, imperfect, and full of growth we don’t always see until we slow down. In this episode, I reflect on the messy, beautiful juggle of motherhood and meaningful work. I share the chapter I wrote five years ago for a collaborative book project, and how revisiting it today offered fresh perspective and renewed appreciation. We’ll explore what it means to find your own way, to ask for help, and to build a version of life that works for you. Whether you’re in the thick of it or coming up for air, this one’s a gentle reminder: You’ve got this. Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Celebrating the journey 05:49 Your path, your way 08:15 Redefining the work-life juggle 13:05 Windows of your own 17:40 Saying it out loud 20:04 Creating a flexible path 22:26 Leaning on community support 24:47 Embracing new beginnings 27:04 Navigating change and finding purpose 29:18 Moving forward with intention 31:46 Finding your own flow Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: You’ve Got This, Boss Mama: A Mother’s Guide to Embracing Growth and Living an Aligned Life Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    CELEBRATING THE JOURNEY “These connections led to my connections, more learning, and more growth” When was the last time you truly paused to appreciate how far you’ve come? In this episode, I’m inviting you to do just that – to take a moment to reflect, to look back, and to celebrate the journey. That’s exactly what happened when I picked up a book that’s been with me for five years: You’ve Got This, Boss Mama, a collaborative project I’m proud to have co-authored. Holding it in my hands brought back so many memories – not just of the chapter I wrote, but of the incredible women I connected with through that experience. This includes Dina Ottoni-Battistessa, Gillian Sawyer, Shannon Christensen, Monica Hui, and Sabrina Greer – each of them has played a meaningful role in my journey, and many have joined me here on the podcast. That book sparked friendships, collaborations, and learning that helped shape who I am today. It also reminded me of the many others who supported me along the way. As I’ve moved forward from the Part-Time Jungle chapter of my work, I’m grateful for what it taught me and how it helped me grow into what I am doing and who I am today. Sometimes, the most powerful way to move forward is to pause, reflect, and honour all the steps – and people – that got you here.   YOUR PATH, YOUR WAY “Life is too short and time is too precious to be living the life that others think we should lead.” Especially when it comes to motherhood and work, there’s no one-size-fits-all path – and that’s a good thing. Maybe you’re home full-time, working full-time, or juggling something in between. However it looks for you, it’s valid. And yet, the judgment still shows up – those passing comments or sideways glances that suggest there’s a “right” way to do things. But the truth is, every family is different. Every woman’s story is layered and unique. What works for one person won’t work for another, and that’s okay. There’s room for all of it – for all of us. Let’s stop measuring our choices against someone else’s expectations. Your way is the right way for you. REDEFINING THE WORK-LIFE JUGGLE Motherhood doesn’t come with a roadmap, and neither does figuring out how work fits into it. For years, I’ve been navigating the in-between – working part-time while raising three kids and trying to find roles that not only fit our family life but also feel meaningful. The truth? Those roles rarely come from job postings. They come from conversations, connections, and a lot of hustle. Along the way, I’ve questioned why it’s still so hard to talk openly about flexible work and why so many employers struggle to see part-time working moms as the valuable assets they are. For me, choosing part-time work wasn’t about picking one dream over another. It was about breaking the mold and finding a path that allowed space for both. And while there have been moments where things looked “perfect” on paper but felt lonely in practice, every step has taught me more about what really matters: connection, purpose, and carving out a version of motherhood and work that actually works for you. Your path doesn’t have to fit the mold. iIt just has to fit you.   WINDOWS OF YOUR OWN Motherhood often comes with a mix of joy, pressure, and the constant feeling of needing to do it all and do it well. In the midst of teaching, caring for my boys, and managing the nonstop juggle, I realized how essential it was to carve out space for myself. Going back to school to pursue my master’s degree became more than an academic goal. It was a lifeline. It gave me adult connection, intellectual stimulation, and something that was just mine. It wasn’t always easy and it did require a village. It taught me that it’s okay to ask for help. It’s okay to build in windows of time for your dreams. Because when you take care of your own spark, it lights the way for everyone around you. You don’t need to do it all alone and you don’t need to lose yourself in the process. Make space for you.   SAYING IT OUT LOUD After completing my master’s degree and navigating another round of parental leave with baby #3, I found myself once again facing that familiar panic about returning to work. Trying to balance what felt right for me with what made sense for our family. I took on a part-time teaching job but I began to wonder if something else might be possible. The turning point came with a piece of advice I now hold close: you can’t fully open yourself to new opportunities until you close the door on what no longer fits. Saying no to a teaching contract and a steady path was terrifying, but it made space for something new. I started sharing my dream job out loud, even with strangers in the grocery line. Part-time. Education-based. Some work from home. Flexible. Saying it out loud made it real – and eventually, doors started to open. Speak your dreams into the world. You never know who’s listening or what’s possible when you finally make space for what lights you up.   CREATING A FLEXIBLE PATH Four months after leaving the school board, a surprising call led me to what turned out to be the perfect part-time job – writing high school curriculum with the flexibility to work mostly from home and still be there for my kids. I negotiated working about 20 hours a week, mostly on two days, which meant on the days I wasn’t working, I could do school drop-offs and pick-ups, visit the park, and enjoy quality time with my kids. Childcare was a challenge especially when the first option turned out unsafe. But with family support, I found a wonderful day home that became a real blessing. The job wasn’t permanent, though, and when the contract ended, I faced the tough feeling of starting over, even after having grown so much and feeling proud of what I’d accomplished. Sometimes the right opportunity doesn’t last forever, but it helps you grow, learn, and create the life you want – step by step, day by day.   LEANING ON COMMUNITY SUPPORT After taking a step back and leaning into my network of family, friends, and co-workers, I found a job that truly fit our family’s needs. Thanks to a connection from my sister, I landed a position supporting young children with developmental delays, which allowed me to choose my hours and work around my kids’ school schedule. This flexibility meant I could do drop-offs and pick-ups, only needing a couple of childcare afternoons, saving costs and stress. The work was meaningful and inspiring, partnering with amazing therapists and educators. But even with all the positives, working part-time left me feeling like I wasn’t doing enough for the kids, their families, or my team. That guilt started to affect my energy and family life. It reminded me that part-time work isn’t just about fitting into a schedule. It’s about finding a rhythm that fuels you and lets you show up fully where it matters most.   EMBRACING NEW BEGINNINGS Sometimes, a simple conversation can open doors you didn’t even know were there. At my youngest child’s gymnastics class, I met a fellow mom and teacher who mentioned that she was applying to be a sessional instructor at the University of Calgary’s Werklund School of Education. It sparked a memory of my dream to work with student teachers that had fueled my master’s degree project on new teacher mentorship. I applied and was thrilled to get a role, teaching 2 lab sections of a course and supervising student teacher practicums. Leaving my current job with no clear fall plan brought anxiety, especially facing my 20-year high school reunion, where everyone seemed to have “it all together.” But being honest about my journey resonated. Many classmates were also rethinking their paths and seeking change. It reminded me that beneath the surface, we all face uncertainty and growth in our own ways.   NAVIGATING CHANGE AND FINDING PURPOSE When our youngest started grade one and all three kids were suddenly in school full-time, I felt a big shift like I’d lost a part of who I was. The busy days of preschool and kindergarten routines and having a little one by my side were gone, leaving me alone and without a job. I tried filling the space with volunteering, reconnecting with old friends, and tackling neglected home projects, but none of it felt quite right. A part-time curriculum writing contract gave me flexible work from home, but the constant extra requests and feeling undervalued left me deflated. When the start of my teaching position at the University of Calgary arrived, I was nervous, doubting if I was the right fit. But standing in front of my students that first day, everything clicked. It felt energizing and right, like I had found where I was meant to be. This experience showed me how important it is to be patient with yourself during transitions and to stay open to new opportunities even when you’re not sure what’s next.   MOVING FORWARD WITH INTENTION Starting a new teaching role was both thrilling and draining. I loved my students and team, but settling in took a lot of energy and adjustment. Over the past two fall seasons without paid work, I focused on creating something meaningful: The Part-Time Jungle, a community and business that connects and supports moms seeking part-time and more flexible jobs that fit their lives. I’ve pushed myself by joining mastermind groups, taking business classes, and saying yes to opportunities that challenge me. It’s not perfect, and progress sometimes feels slow, but I’m learning to be patient and gentle with myself. Balancing work, family, and personal goals means making tough choices and accepting that sometimes something has to give.   FINDING YOUR OWN FLOW  I realized early on that part-time work was the right fit for me, but it hasn’t always been easy to explain or defend that choice. Balancing the demands of a busy family with three kids, my husband’s flexible but long hours, and my own desire to keep learning means making decisions that work for us – not anyone else’s expectations. Having a strong village of family and friends who support, laugh with me, and share the ups and downs makes all the difference. I’m learning to be okay with the chaos, accept that I don’t have it all figured out, and focus on filling my own cup first so I can show up fully for my family. Everyone’s version of their juggle looks different, and that’s okay. You get to choose what works best for you. Your path doesn’t have to look like anyone else’s. Trust yourself to create a life that fits your family and fuels your joy. Podcast episodes featuring the amazing humans mentioned in this episode: The Part-Time Jungle Podcast: Episode 8: Finding Clarity in the Chaos with Sabrina Greer Episode 37: Time to Play with Dina Ottoni-Battistessa Episode 49: Mamas for Mamas with Shannon Christensen Episode 53: Honouring Ourselves as Moms with Dr. Gillian Sawyer The People Teaching People Podcast Episode 2: Struggle is Your Success with Jill Drader Jill was not specifically named in my chapter (and was not a co-author in the book) but has been a friend and mentor for me since we first met. She is the friend I mention in my chapter who shared the invaluable piece of wisdom with me that “You can’t be truly open to opportunities and possibilities until you shut the door and step away from what is holding you back.” 

What is the power of poetry?  In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with the remarkable Wakefield Brewster. Our conversation was a deep dive into the power of poetry, the importance of literacy, and how one can find and embrace their voice through poetry. Wakefield Brewster is not just a professional poet and spoken word artist with over two decades of experience. He is an educator and a passionate advocate for literacy. Known for his powerful words and captivating performances, Wakefield’s work spans schools, festivals, corporate functions, and more. As Calgary’s sixth Poet Laureate from 2022 to 2024, he has dedicated his career to inspiring others to find their voice. Through our conversation, Wakefield shared his philosophy on the transformative power of language, emphasizing that “we lead with language.” By helping others find their voice, he strives to create a world where everyone’s story can be told and appreciated. Moreover, his work demonstrates how poetry and spoken word are dynamic tools for learning, inspiring people of all ages to connect with language deeply. Wakefield Brewster’s journey is a testament to the intersection of words and wellness and the importance of sharing one’s story. His work encourages us to consider how language can enrich our lives and communities, inspire change, and cultivate understanding.   Listen in as we talk about: 03:12 Finding purpose through challenges 11:16 When poetry found Wakefield  22:08 The power of sharing your voice 26:00 Fostering a love for language 31:04 Finding connection through storytelling 33:48 Creating community as Calgary’s Poet Laureate 40:45 Being brave and sharing with the world 43:33 Writing WakeWORD – a book of poetry 53:05 Poetry and the art of listening 01:03:30 A moment of recognition and pride 01:05:39 Being seen as a poet 01:08:21 Words and wellness   Connect with Wakefield: Website: https://www.wakefieldbrewster.com/ LinkedIn: Wakefield Brewster Instagram: @wakefield_brewster Facebook: @wakefield.brewster TEDxCalgary – Wakefield Brewster – The power of “I can” Book: WAKEWord   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    FINDING PURPOSE THROUGH CHALLENGES Growing up isn’t easy, especially when life throws incredibly difficult experiences your way. Wakefield talks about how his early years were shaped by personal traumas and an educational system that didn’t truly see or support the different needs of its students. School was a tough place for him, but those struggles helped shape the teacher and mentor he is today. Instead of focusing only on information, he believes in bringing energy, compassion, and connection into every classroom. His approach is all about entertaining, engaging, making it easy, educating, and enlightening. If students can feel even a small spark, it can open the door to bigger growth over time. Wakefield reminds us that we don’t always get to see the results of the seeds we plant, but that doesn’t make the planting any less important. Even when you can’t see the impact right away, showing up with heart, energy, and care has the power to change someone’s world.   WHEN POETRY FOUND WAKEFIELD Wakefield’s connection to poetry wasn’t something he pursued. It was something that found him. At 16, after years of studying music, including the organ, piano, and percussion, he felt a powerful creative spark (from something that he saw on TV) and wrote his first (admittedly terrible) two poems, marking the first time he truly created something of his own. Even though he kept his writing hidden for years, worried about how it would be perceived, the need to express himself through poetry never went away. His first public reading turned out to be an accidental entry into a poetry slam and was a tough experience. But instead of quitting, he stayed curious, studied the art of spoken word, and found his authentic voice on stage. Wakefield’s story is a reminder that sometimes what feels like a setback is actually the beginning of something meant for you. Your true path has a way of finding you even when it doesn’t look the way you expected.   THE POWER OF SHARING YOUR VOICE “Stories belong to all of us. Once we start sharing them, we find out how much more alike we are than seemingly different.” Wakefield sees poetry as more than an art form. He sees it as a powerful tool for helping people find and embrace their voices. Through his work, he helps others recognize that their stories deserve to be told, especially the hard ones that often go unheard. He believes that when people share their experiences, it creates space for more compassion and understanding in the world. Wakefield also explains how language shapes action: we lead with language, language allows, and what we allow continues. By empowering more people to speak their truth, he hopes to make the world a place where every story is honoured and every voice matters.   FOSTERING A LOVE FOR LANGUAGE  When Wakefield steps into a classroom, he knows not every student will love poetry right away and that’s okay. For him, it’s not about forcing anyone to become a poet; it’s about showing how powerful language is in every part of life. Whether you dream of being a marine biologist, an astrophysicist, or a mechanic, mastering the language of your field can open doors and create new opportunities. By showing students how poetry connects to the language of their passions, Wakefield helps them see that literacy isn’t just about reading and writing. It’s about speaking the language of their dreams. The more fluent we become in the language of our passions, the more we can achieve and connect with others.   FINDING CONNECTION THROUGH STORYTELLING With the profound impact language has had on his own life, Wakefield strives to pass that on to others, especially through poetry and spoken word. He believes in the transformative power of words, not just as an artistic expression, but as a tool for connection, healing, and self-expression. His mission is to help people, of all ages, discover the beauty of language and the stories they hold within. By creating interactive spaces where people can explore their voices, Wakefield hopes to ignite a love for words that can empower individuals and build stronger communities.    CREATING COMMUNITY AS CALGARY’S POET LAUREATE Being Calgary’s 6th Poet Laureate from 2022 to 2024, Wakefield embraced the role of the city’s poetic ambassador. He shared the beauty of language, poetry, and literacy while building community. His legacy project wasn’t about physical monuments, but about giving students the chance to step out of their comfort zones and find their voices through poetry. He created a living legacy by working closely with students at Connect Charter School, helping them find the courage to speak up and share their words with the world. For Wakefield, the most powerful impact of his time as Poet Laureate was seeing how these young voices could spark change, not only in the students themselves but in the community around them. Art and creativity thrive when shared.    BEING BRAVE AND SHARING WITH THE WORLD For Wakefield, creativity isn’t just about making art. It’s about having the courage to share it. He shares three simple but profound pieces of advice: be brave, go out into the world, and write out your life. Bravery isn’t the absence of fear, but the willingness to act even when you’re scared. True connection doesn’t happen in your head or in your living room. It happens when you step out and let the world experience what you’ve created. Wakefield’s message is a powerful call to action for anyone living a creative life: ideas are only the beginning. To make an impact, you have to be brave, put your work out there in the world, and connect with others.   WRITING WAKEWORD – A BOOK OF POETRY After facing discouraging feedback from professors and the literary world, Wakefield turned to performance, letting his words be heard rather than read. His book, which came after years of persevering through doubt, captures the essence of his energy and passion for spoken word. Through WAKEWord, Wakefield invites readers to embrace the power of poetry, showing that, even in the face of rejection, your voice can still resonate. His approach to writing isn’t just about creating poems. It’s about sharing an experience, capturing the raw, real moments of life in verse.   THE ART OF LISTENING AND POETRY Wakefield’s approach to poetry has blended both immediate and reflective creation. In the past, he practiced professional poetic interpretation (PPI), where he would attend an event, eavesdrop and listen in on conversations, and create a poem (that day!) based on what he had heard and observed throughout the day. However, Wakefield no longer uses this method due to the intense time pressure it required. Today, he takes a more reflective approach, allowing himself time to digest his observations and craft poetry at a slower pace, whether from conversations in public spaces or professional settings. This shift in process has led to more thoughtful, nuanced work, while still embracing the power of real-time inspiration. Wakefield’s evolution as a poet reminds us that the art of listening has the potential to unlock profound creative insight.   A MOMENT OF RECOGNITION AND PRIDE Receiving the Lifetime Achievement Award from Calgary Black Chambers, is one of Wakefield’s proudest moments. Despite facing years of not feeling fully embraced by his own community, especially early in his career in Toronto, Wakefield’s journey eventually led him to a place where he could represent change and become a source of pride for his people. This award, which came as a surprise to him, was a powerful affirmation that his work and presence had been noticed and celebrated by the very community he once felt disconnected from.   BEING SEEN AS A POET For Wakefield, a pivotal moment in his educational journey came when a humanities professor, Sherry Rolley, saw something in him that others hadn’t. After he shared a selection of his poetry with her, she encouraged him to fully embrace his identity as a poet, regardless of his academic focus. Her belief in him not only validated his path but also inspired him to pursue poetry with confidence and dedication. Wakefield reflects that what Sherry did for him, he now strives to do for others – helping people recognize and pursue their true passions.    WORDS AND WELLNESS Wakefield reflects on how the intersection of words and wellness has played a central role in his life. He shares that for him, poetry has always been more than just an art form. It’s been a vital part of his personal journey towards healing and mental wellness. As a licensed massage therapist and clinic owner, Wakefield views his creative work as a therapeutic practice that complements his approach to overall well-being. He connects his poetic expression with recovery from substance abuse. Poetry has been a tool for processing and navigating his struggles. Ultimately, Wakefield believes the heart of his work lies in the pursuit of wellness.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Have you ever noticed how often we talk about curiosity… but rarely stop to explore what it really means? What it looks like in our everyday lives? Or how it quietly shapes the way we connect, learn, and grow? Over the years, as a student, a teacher, and now a parent, I’ve come to see curiosity as more than just a trait. It’s a mindset. A way of being. A quiet, steady force that keeps us open to ideas, to people, to possibility. In this episode, I dive into what it means to be curious. I share stories from my own learning journey – moments when curiosity helped me shift my perspective, deepen a connection, or simply slow down and notice something I might’ve missed. We’ll explore why curiosity matters more than ever in the way we teach, parent, and show up in the world. Make sure you get your FREE Guide: Be Curious   Listen in as we talk about: 02:25 The heart of curiosity 08:36 Building connections through curiosity 10:48 The courage to be curious 14:05 Embracing the learner mindset 15:58 Everyday curiosity 19:41 Childlike curiosity 21:10 The power of curiosity   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    THE HEART OF CURIOSITY Curiosity is more than a fleeting thought. It’s a mindset, a spark that invites us to learn, explore, and connect. It’s not about having all the answers; it’s about asking the questions and being willing to follow where they lead. At a neurological level, curiosity literally rewires our brains to learn more deeply and remember more clearly. And while curiosity often lives alongside awe and wonder, they’re not the same. Awe is what we feel in the presence of something vast and humbling – like standing at the edge of Machu Picchu at sunrise. Wonder is that wide-eyed delight in the everyday – the kind kids seem to find effortlessly in puddles, bugs, and cracks in the sidewalk. Curiosity, though, is what happens when we notice a gap in our knowledge and feel drawn to close it. It’s what turns a beautiful glass heart on a desk into a doorway to an artist’s story, a deeper connection, and a new way of seeing. Curiosity opens the door to meaning. It helps us notice more, learn more, and connect more deeply with the world around us.   BUILDING CONNECTIONS THROUGH CURIOSITY Curiosity isn’t just about asking questions. It’s how we grow, connect, and make sense of the world around us. It helps us challenge our assumptions, see beyond our own perspectives, and build empathy. I’m often reminded of Adam Grant’s idea that lifelong learners believe they can learn something from everyone they meet. That mindset came to life for me at Pearson College, where I studied alongside students from nearly 90 countries. It showed me how curiosity can unite people across cultures and create space for deeper understanding. Over the years, this podcast has also become a powerful source of curiosity for me – fueling meaningful conversations and inspiring new ways of thinking. Curiosity opens the door to empathy, growth, and connection and when we stay open to learning from others, we all move forward together.   THE COURAGE TO BE CURIOUS Even though curiosity is a powerful force, it doesn’t always come easily. Sometimes we assume we already know enough, worry about looking silly, or simply don’t slow down long enough to wonder. One of the biggest barriers? The instinct to be critical before we’re curious – to judge before we ask. But when we start with questions instead of conclusions, we open the door to deeper learning and connection. Misinformation and echo chambers, especially online, can make this even harder by narrowing our view of the world. It takes intentional effort to step outside our comfort zones, to listen to different perspectives, and to stay curious even when it’s uncomfortable. But that’s where the growth lives – in the messy middle, where curiosity, openness, and kindness help us build bridges instead of walls. Curiosity isn’t always easy, but choosing to ask before assuming can lead to greater understanding, deeper relationships, and more meaningful conversations.   EMBRACING THE LEARNER MINDSET Embracing a learner mindset means leading with curiosity, not certainty. It’s about showing up to conversations and experiences with the question, “What can I learn here?” instead of assuming we already know it all. The most inspiring experts I know aren’t the ones with all the answers. They’re the ones who stay open, ask great questions, and listen deeply. Being intentional about who we learn from matters, too. Surrounding ourselves with diverse voices and perspectives helps us stretch our thinking and grow in ways we couldn’t on our own. And listening – truly listening – is one of the most powerful tools we have for expanding understanding. Every moment we choose curiosity over assumption is a moment we move closer to growth, connection, and insight. Curiosity creates space for growth. When we lead with questions and stay open to learning, we uncover possibilities we might have otherwise missed.   EVERYDAY CURIOSITY Curiosity doesn’t have to be grand. It can show up in the tiniest, everyday moments. Whether it’s asking someone in line at the grocery store what they’re cooking for dinner, chatting with a fellow traveler, or sparking laughs at the dinner table with a game of “Would You Rather,” curiosity opens doors to connection. These small, intentional questions send a powerful message: You matter. Your story matters. A great example? A simple airplane conversation turned into a beautiful friendship with Juliane Gallant, now the resident conductor of the Calgary Philharmonic Orchestra. You never know where one curious question might lead. Everyday curiosity invites connection and sometimes, a single question can turn a stranger into a friend.   CHILDLIKE CURIOSITY There’s something special about the way kids approach curiosity. When they explore, they dive right into the messy middle of learning. They experiment, try things out, get a little messy, and don’t worry about getting things wrong. It’s all part of the process. As adults, though, we sometimes lose that sense of freedom. We can become more focused on having the right answers or getting things done quickly. But just like when we were kids, there’s a lot to be gained from slowing down, exploring, and allowing ourselves the space to make mistakes along the way. By doing this, we can rekindle that natural curiosity, embrace the journey of learning, and discover new things about the world and ourselves. The more we let go of the pressure to be perfect, the more room we create for real growth and insight.   THE POWER OF CURIOSITY “Be curious. Before you judge, ask. Before you assume, wonder. Before you answer, listen.” Curiosity is a powerful tool that brings us closer to understanding and connection. It’s about choosing to ask instead of judge, to wonder instead of assume, and to listen instead of rush to answer. When we embrace curiosity, we open ourselves up to new perspectives, deeper relationships, and endless learning. Remember, everyone you meet holds knowledge you don’t. What a beautiful opportunity to learn from one another. So, the next time you’re faced with a moment of uncertainty or judgment, choose curiosity. You might just be surprised at the insights and connections that follow. Curiosity transforms how we connect, learn, and grow.

What inspires two teenagers to create a business dedicated to spreading joy and building connections in a world that often feels overwhelming? 17 year old Mercedes and 14 year old Anastasia are sisters and co-founders of the company, Small Bits of Happiness. Their mission is to help individuals of all ages find more happiness in daily life as well as build happy habits and connections. As two teens, Mercedes and Anastasia understand firsthand the difficulties of teenage-hood, including not only the hormonal changes that tweens and teens undergo, but the added stressors of war, post-pandemic life, and beyond. Small Bits of Happiness has reached over 4 million teens and adults. Mercedes and Anastasia have been featured on national news and media, spoken at schools and conventions across North America, and host the podcast – Hack Your Happiness. They have also designed a series of happiness-wellness products for tweens, teens, adults and schools.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Meet Mercedes and Anastasia 03:06 Finding happiness in the little things 06:50 The power of connection 08:15 Happiness in everyday moments 10:15 The importance of small bits of happiness 12:26 Balancing school, business, and life 15:29 Learning in the business world 19:08 Building stronger parent-teen connections 23:59 Supporting teens through life’s struggles 27:21 Hack Your Happiness podcast 30:30 Happiness tools and resources 32:26 Looking ahead with Small Bits of Happiness 33:15 Their mom = their most impactful teacher 35:15 Celebrating growth and achievements 37:26 Embracing growth and believing in yourself   Connect with Mercedes and Anastasia: Website: https://smallbitsofhappiness.com/  LinkedIn: Small Bits of Happiness Instagram: @small.bits.of.happiness TikTok: @smallbitsofhappiness YouTube: Small Bits of Happiness Podcast: Hack Your Happiness Retail Collection: ShopBits   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    FINDING HAPPINESS IN THE LITTLE THINGS When the pandemic hit, Mercedes and Anastasia found themselves struggling with the weight of the world – teenage challenges, global uncertainty, and everyday stress. But instead of letting it consume them, they decided to focus on the small, good things like enjoying a treat, going for a walk, or sharing a laugh. Realizing they weren’t the only teens feeling overwhelmed, they launched Small Bits of Happiness, a social media project to spread positivity. What started as a simple family practice turned into a growing movement, reaching peers through quotes, funny videos, and uplifting messages. It all began with brainstorming in their dad’s office, jotting down ideas on a chalkboard, and taking small steps forward. Happiness doesn’t have to come from big, life-changing moments. Sometimes, it’s found in the little things we choose to notice every day.   THE POWER OF CONNECTION Through their work with Small Bits of Happiness, Mercedes and Anastasia have discovered that one of the biggest challenges people face isn’t just finding happiness. It’s finding connection. Psychologist Sonja Lyubomirsky shared on their podcast that connection is one of the most powerful ways to boost happiness, yet a growing gap exists between parents and their teens. With screens, friends, and busy schedules in the mix, meaningful moments can slip away. That’s why they focus on offering simple, tangible ways for families to connect, knowing that even small efforts can make a big difference in how we feel every day. Happiness and connection go hand in hand. When we take the time to truly connect with others, we all feel a little brighter.   HAPPINESS IN EVERYDAY MOMENTS With life’s busy pace, it’s easy to overlook the little things that bring us joy. Mercedes and Anastasia remind us that happiness doesn’t have to come from big, life-changing moments. It can be as simple as getting enough sleep, listening to upbeat music, or soaking in a little sunlight. For Anastasia, happiness means sleeping in on weekends, playing feel-good music, and spending time with friends and family. Mercedes, on the other hand, finds joy in waking up early, listening to audiobooks, and letting natural light fill her space. Their message is clear – there’s no one-size-fits-all formula for happiness. It’s about discovering the small habits that work for you and making them a daily practice. Happiness isn’t a checklist. It’s about finding the little things that brighten your day and making space for them, one moment at a time.   SMALL BITS OF HAPPINESS Life can feel overwhelming with school, exams, and endless to-do lists but Mercedes and Anastasia share that happiness isn’t something we have to wait for. Instead of relying on big events like birthdays or vacations, we can find joy in the small, daily moments that are always within our reach. Whether it’s a quiet morning, a favorite song, or a small win, these little things add up to something powerful. By focusing on what we can control and appreciating what’s already around us, we can build a sense of happiness that lasts. Happiness isn’t a destination. It’s something we create in the moments of everyday life.   BALANCING SCHOOL, BUSINESS, AND LIFE For Mercedes and Anastasia, balancing school, business, and everything in between can feel overwhelming, but finding a system that works makes all the difference. One key strategy is to stay organized – whether it’s using a daily agenda or breaking tasks into manageable chunks. For some, getting a head start in the morning and eliminating distractions, like putting the phone out of sight, helps to maintain focus. Creating a reward system can also make a big impact. Finish the task, then enjoy a break or some downtime. It’s about understanding your own rhythm and making it work for your goals. Success comes from staying organized, eliminating distractions, and finding a routine that allows for both productivity and balance.   LEARNING IN THE BUSINESS WORLD Starting a business as a young entrepreneur is a journey full of surprises, and one of the biggest lessons Mercedes and Anastasia have learned is the importance of flexibility. What starts as a clear vision often evolves over time, requiring the ability to pivot and adapt. Entrepreneurs need to be open to change, constantly learning and adjusting as trends, clients, and goals shift. Support from mentors, family, and even business-focused programs can provide invaluable guidance along the way. Whether it’s reading, listening to podcasts, or attending events, staying inspired and connected to others in the entrepreneurial community plays a key role in growth. The road to success in business is full of twists and turns. Embrace change, stay open to learning, and lean on your support network.   BUILDING STRONGER PARENT-TEEN CONNECTIONS Connecting with teens can be challenging but Mercedes and Anatasia talk about how shared experiences and open communication are key. One effective way to bond is by engaging in fun activities together, like their Mission: Small Bits of Happiness interactive game which contains 100 unique activities designed to foster happiness and connection. Also, instead of the typical “How was your day?” approach, parents can try something more relaxed, like asking their teen to choose an activity they enjoy, from art classes to a walk with the family pet. This helps create a natural environment for conversations to flow. It’s also important for parents to listen without immediately offering solutions or comparing their teen’s experiences to their own. Recognizing that the challenges teens face today are unique, shaped by social media and recent world events, can help foster deeper understanding and empathy. Building genuine connections with teens requires patience, shared experiences, and a willingness to listen without judgment.   SUPPORTING TEENS THROUGH LIFE’S STRUGGLES Parenting a teen comes with the challenge of supporting their mental and emotional well-being while encouraging them to make a positive impact on the world. Every teen is different, but Mercedes and Anastasia talk about how the key is to approach them with empathy and non-judgment. It’s important to create a safe space where they feel heard, rather than judged or lectured. Open, honest conversations are essential, but it can help if parents ask their teens directly what they need to feel supported. Teens often struggle with loneliness as they navigate school, friendships, and future decisions, so offering reassurance that they’re not alone in their challenges can make a world of difference. By maintaining a curious mindset and learning from each other, parents can strengthen their connection with their teens and provide the support they need to thrive. Supporting teens means being there for them without judgment and showing them they’re not alone in their journey.   THE HACK YOUR HAPPINESS PODCAST Mercedes and Anastasia started the Hack Your Happiness podcast to provide a space where teens could hear meaningful advice from top achievers they admire, like Olympic athletes, best-selling authors, and renowned chefs. The idea behind the podcast is to offer a fresh perspective on happiness and success from those who have been there, making it more relatable for teens who may struggle to take advice from parents or teachers. By asking questions that resonate with teens, Mercedes and Anastasia create a space where listeners can learn from real stories and experiences. Some standout guests have included Penny Oleksiak, a swimmer and Canada’s all-time most decorated Olympian and Meg Cabot, a #1 New York Times-bestselling author of The Princess Diaries, sharing their journeys and offering inspiration for the next generation. Sometimes, the best advice comes from those who have walked the path you aspire to follow, and their stories can offer the insight and inspiration you need to find your own way to happiness and success.   HAPPINESS TOOLS AND RESOURCES Mercedes and Anastasia offer a wealth of resources on their website aimed at helping people find more happiness and connect with others. They’ve created fun tools like a game filled with 100 activities to boost joy for teens and adults, along with a simplified version for younger kids. They also offer a calendar with 365 mood-boosting ideas that can be used year after year, and a collection of clothing, jewelry, and candles designed to inspire positivity. Alongside their podcast, the website features a blog with teen advice, happiness science, and fun ways to improve mood, along with free daily content like quotes and videos. It’s the perfect place to find simple tools for creating a happier, more connected life.  By incorporating small, intentional actions into daily life, we can create a lasting impact on our happiness and relationships.   LOOKING AHEAD WITH SMALL BITS OF HAPPINESS Mercedes and Anastasia are gearing up for an exciting 2025 as they expand their mission to spread happiness and connect with even more people. With new products in the works and an ongoing focus on their podcast, they’re eager to reach more teens, tweens, and adults with their positivity-driven tools. They’re also exploring partnerships with other organizations to amplify their impact and bring happiness to new spaces. While some of their upcoming plans are still under wraps, they’re full of anticipation for what’s to come and the ways they can continue to inspire joy and connection. The journey to spreading happiness is ever-evolving, and staying open to new opportunities can lead to exciting, unexpected ways to make a difference.   THEIR MOM = THEIR MOST IMPACTFUL TEACHER Mercedes and Anastasia both picked their mom as the teacher who has had the most lasting impact on them. Their mom has taught them the value of patience, hard work, and seeking happiness in the small moments. Through both challenges and triumphs, she’s been their rock, always showing them how important it is to care for and support others. Her ability to stay positive and encourage them to look for the good in every situation has shaped who they are today. The most impactful teachers aren’t always the ones in the classroom; sometimes, it’s the people closest to us who leave the greatest mark on our lives.   CELEBRATING GROWTH AND ACHIEVEMENTS Mercedes and Anastasia are both incredibly proud of their journey with Small Bits of Happiness, celebrating every milestone, big and small. Anastasia reflects on the quiet hard work that’s now paying off, with their efforts making a significant difference in people’s lives. For Mercedes, a standout moment was signing with Embolden Media Group for her book, a dream come true after years of writing and taking part in writing competitions in school. These achievements mark the exciting momentum they’ve built, with both of them appreciating how far they’ve come and the energy they’re putting into the world. Success isn’t just about big moments. It’s also about celebrating the small victories and ongoing growth that can make all the difference on the path to achieving your dreams.   EMBRACING GROWTH AND BELIEVING IN YOURSELF “Just try it, that’s all that matters.” ~ Anastasia Korngut Mercedes and Anastasia share inspiring wisdom for anyone on a journey of teaching, learning, or personal growth. Anastasia emphasizes that while happiness is a journey of finding small joys every day, it’s important to remember that bad days are normal and part of the process. She encourages curiosity and the willingness to try new things, even if you’re unsure of the outcome. Mercedes reflects on a quote that has deeply impacted her: “Don’t be the one to tell yourself no.” She highlights how we often limit ourselves with self-doubt, and stresses the importance of believing in our abilities, pushing through the external and internal challenges that may arise. Don’t let fear or doubt hold you back. Keep trying, stay curious, and always believe in your potential.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Have you ever stopped to question the way we think about education? The way we define success? The way learning should look and feel? For a long time, I didn’t. I followed the path, checked the boxes, and did what I was supposed to do. But over the years, as a student, teacher, and now a parent, I’ve come to realize that learning isn’t one-size-fits-all. And the way we measure success? That might need rethinking too. In this solo episode, I dive into the idea of ‘rethinking’ education – questioning the traditional learning journey and exploring what teaching, learning, and success really mean. I share personal experiences as a student, teacher, and parent, revealing the challenges of an achievement-driven mindset and how my perspectives have shifted over time. From struggling behind the scenes as a high-achieving student to navigating the education system as a mom, I explore the realities of school, the importance of feeling seen, and the need to rethink success beyond the traditional path.   Make sure you get your FREE Guide: Reflection Questions – Rethinking Education   Listen in as we talk about: 3:00 Success vs. struggle 7:32 The ups and downs of school 8:52 The invisible struggle of students 9:47 The magic of unicorn teachers 11:07 Redefining the “right” path 12:09 Seeing the whole story 14:11 Rethinking learning and success   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    SUCCESS VS. STRUGGLE On the surface, I was the picture of academic success – high marks, awards, scholarships – but beneath it all, I was struggling. I spent hours trying to keep up, carrying a constant weight of anxiety. School felt like a never-ending cycle of proving myself, and while I found strategies to “succeed,” I never truly felt at ease. When I left home for an international school, the anxiety hit even harder, amplified by the loss of familiar support systems. It wasn’t until I started finding new ways to manage the overwhelm that things slowly shifted. Even as I moved through university, teaching, and eventually motherhood, those feelings of pressure and self-doubt followed me. But becoming a mom to kids in school? That changed everything. It made me rethink education – not just for them, but for myself too. Achievement doesn’t always mean understanding, and success doesn’t always mean ease. Sometimes, the biggest lessons come when we finally pause to question the path we’re on.     THE UPS AND DOWNS OF SCHOOL When school is going well, it feels easy – parent-teacher interviews are positive, your child is engaged, and everything seems to be on track. But when school is a struggle, it’s a different story. Homework battles, morning resistance, and emotional meltdowns can make every day feel like an uphill climb. As parents, we have to step in – not just to support our kids, but to advocate for them, even when it means having difficult conversations with teachers, partners, and sometimes even ourselves. A child’s success isn’t just about grades. It’s about feeling seen, supported, and understood. As parents, our role isn’t to fix everything, but to stand beside them as they navigate the challenges.   THE INVISIBLE STRUGGLE OF STUDENTS In a busy classroom, it’s easy to assume that quiet, well-behaved students are doing just fine. But silence doesn’t always mean success. Many kids who don’t speak up, cause trouble, or demand attention can struggle just as much as those who do – they just do it quietly. With so many students and responsibilities, teachers face real challenges in getting to know every child, but the reality is that some kids go through the school day feeling unseen and unheard. Just because a child isn’t raising their hand doesn’t mean they don’t need support. Every student deserves to feel noticed, valued, and understood.   THE MAGIC OF UNICORN TEACHERS Some teachers leave a lasting impact – not because of the lessons they teach, but because of how they make students feel. These “unicorn teachers” see kids for who they truly are, creating spaces where they feel safe, valued, and encouraged to take risks. Their classrooms aren’t just about achievement; they’re about belonging. And we appreciate them even more when we encounter the opposite – teachers who believe success only looks one way. When people reflect on their favorite teachers, it’s never just about the subject matter – it’s about the connection. The best teachers don’t just teach subjects; they see students. Feeling seen, safe, and supported can change everything.   REDEFINING THE ‘RIGHT’ PATH “We are all different, we all learn differently, and our paths may not be up the linear ladder.” The traditional school-to-career path isn’t for everyone, yet the message that it ‘should’ be is everywhere. As a parent and educator, I’ve felt the discomfort of realizing how deeply I’ve bought into this narrative especially when one of my own kids wanted to take a different route. It’s scary. We crave security for our kids, and stepping outside the norm feels uncertain. Social media only amplifies this, with endless posts about college acceptances and degrees. But the truth is, success doesn’t have just one path. It’s about finding the one that truly fits. The “right” path isn’t the same for everyone. Trusting our kids to find their way, even when it looks different, can be the greatest gift we give them.   SEEING THE WHOLE STORY There’s always more to someone’s story but not everyone is willing to listen. When our oldest was diagnosed with ADHD, I realized I had been struggling in similar ways my whole life. Suddenly, so much made sense. But when we tried to share our son’s diagnosis with his school, we hit walls. Because he was quiet and compliant, his struggles weren’t seen as ‘real’. At home, though, we saw the weight he was carrying. The same thing happened in hockey. Most coaches encouraged him, but one year, a coach sidelined him instead of understanding him. It was a painful reminder that without curiosity and openness, kids can be overlooked instead of supported. Every child has a story beyond what we see. Taking the time to listen and understand can make all the difference.   RETHINKING LEARNING AND SUCCESS Watching my kids navigate school, both as a mom and an educator, has challenged everything I thought I knew about teaching and learning. It’s made me question why we place so much value on formal education while often overlooking the rich, meaningful learning that happens in other contexts. Not everyone thrives on the traditional path, and not all learning fits into a classroom. But no matter how or where we learn, one thing remains true: we all want to feel seen, heard, and understood. Learning isn’t one-size-fits-all. The more we embrace different paths, the more we create space for people to learn in ways that truly fit them.

Have you ever found yourself wondering what’s happening to your body, feeling disconnected, or struggling with unexplainable changes as you enter your 40s or beyond? These are common experiences for many facing perimenopause, a phase that often catches individuals off guard due to lack of information and societal dialogue. In this episode of the People Teaching People podcast, I’m joined by Mikelle Ethier, co-founder of This Is Perimenopause, to share insights on understanding and navigating this crucial life stage. My conversation with Mikelle underscores the need for enhanced awareness and research on women’s health, particularly about perimenopause. As the medical community continues to make slow but steady progress, Mikelle and her co-founder, Michelle Stainton, advocate for a proactive approach to personal health and well-being. For anyone struggling with or interested in better understanding perimenopause, This Is Perimenopause offers a wealth of resources and a solid starting point to guide one’s journey. You can join their community to gain insights, support, and inspiration for navigating this transformative phase of life.   Listen in as we talk about: 03:57 The birth of This Is Perimenopause 06:56 What is perimenopause? 11:52 What I wish I had known 14:58 Seeking answers and solutions 17:51 Slowly but surely – raising awareness for women’s health 22:10 The overwhelming impact of perimenopause 24:50 Curated support for perimenopause 36:18 Supporting loved ones through perimenopause 39:11 No quick fix for perimenopause 44:21 The power of great teachers 45:39 Pride in personal growth 46:44 A different way forward   Connect with Mikelle: Website: https://thisisperimenopause.com/ LinkedIn: Mikelle Ethier Instagram: @thisisperimenopause Facebook: @thisisperimenopause TikTok:  @thisisperimenopause Podcast: This is Perimenopause   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    THE BIRTH OF THIS IS PERIMENOPAUSE Mikelle describes her journey from the corporate banking world to entrepreneurship, sparked by a period of deep reflection and unexpected challenges. In 2020, amidst the chaos of the pandemic, she and two close friends found themselves struggling with perimenopausal symptoms and frustrated by the lack of information and support available. Realizing they weren’t alone, they decided to take action, creating This Is Perimenopause to provide the resources they wished they had. With the backing of an incubator program, their mission gained momentum, proving that personal struggles can lead to powerful solutions. Sometimes, the hardest moments push us to redefine who we are and what truly matters.   WHAT IS PERIMENOPAUSE? Perimenopause is a phase many women don’t recognize until they’re in the middle of it. When Mikelle first started experiencing symptoms, she was surprised to learn that there’s no simple test to diagnose it. She explains that menopause itself is just one day—the one-year anniversary of a woman’s final menstrual period. The years leading up to that day, known as perimenopause, bring unpredictable hormonal fluctuations that can last anywhere from four to ten years. These changes can cause extreme anxiety, disrupted sleep, and dozens of other physical and emotional symptoms, often before any noticeable cycle changes. With over 60 recognized symptoms and ongoing research into even more, perimenopause remains widely misunderstood. The more we talk about it, the easier it becomes to navigate this phase with knowledge, support, and confidence.   WHAT I WISH I HAD KNOWN “This is not your fault. This is your hormones.” Mikelle reflects on the challenges she faced when her perimenopausal symptoms began in her early 40s, including anxiety, exhaustion, sleep issues, and other physical changes. At the time, she attributed it all to stress and believed it was her fault for not managing it better. Looking back, she wishes she had known that these symptoms were linked to hormonal fluctuations and not personal failure. She also wishes she had realized the importance of self-advocacy, as most doctors lack sufficient training on perimenopause and menopause, and patients need to be proactive in seeking solutions. Understanding perimenopause and advocating for your health is essential, as relying solely on doctors may not be enough to get the care you need.   SEEKING ANSWERS AND SOLUTIONS Mikelle shares her journey of seeking answers and solutions for her perimenopause symptoms, starting with online research and medical journals. She quickly found that while more information is available, there’s also a lot of misinformation to navigate. After a long search, she finally found practitioners who understood perimenopause and could provide the care she needed. However, the lack of education in the medical community, along with the limited number of specialized clinics, has made it a difficult road for many women. Mikelle points out that despite recent progress, women’s health—especially menopause-related care—has historically been underfunded and overlooked, with women often treated as smaller versions of men in medical studies. Women must advocate for themselves and push for better education, research, and care in order to get the support they truly deserve.   SLOWLY BUT SURELY – RAISING AWARENESS FOR WOMEN’S HEALTH Mikelle discusses the slow progress in addressing women’s health, particularly perimenopause and menopause, despite growing awareness. She emphasizes the real-world implications of this delay, noting that women experiencing unmanaged menopause symptoms are often forced to leave the workforce or scale back their careers. A study by the Menopause Foundation of Canada revealed a staggering $3.5 billion annual loss in productivity due to unmanaged symptoms. These women bring a wealth of experience and skills that society is losing because of stigma and silence around the topic. Addressing women’s health, especially during menopause, is not just a matter of personal well-being—it’s an economic and societal issue that affects us all.   THE OVERWHELMING IMPACT OF PERIMENOPAUSE Perimenopause brings a range of symptoms—like migraines, anxiety, and sleep issues—that often collide with life’s existing stressors, such as career pressures, raising children, and caring for aging parents. These symptoms are easily dismissed as stress, but the truth is that fluctuating hormones are often at the root of the problem, making everything feel more intense. Women experiencing perimenopause may also struggle with emotional outbursts or feelings of anger that seem out of character, affecting their relationships and daily responsibilities. Perimenopause is not just a personal struggle—it affects every aspect of life, and it’s crucial to seek the right information and support to navigate this challenging phase.   CURATED SUPPORT FOR PERIMENOPAUSE Mikelle shares the resources her platform offers to support those navigating perimenopause, including a blog, podcast, and evidence-based information. She highlights the importance of providing not only reliable research but also forward-thinking solutions, like hormone therapy for symptoms such as depression, even if it’s not yet widely prescribed. Mikelle also emphasizes the value of self-advocacy, encouraging people to approach doctors with clear, specific information to guide their conversations. Additionally, she introduces a collaboration with Loom, a women’s clinic in Toronto, where medical providers answer listener questions in bite-sized segments, helping individuals prepare for more informed and productive doctor visits. Mikelle stresses the importance of community and reflects on how many struggle with confidence in a doctor’s office, often trying to please the doctor rather than advocating for their own needs. Having access to reliable information, a supportive community, and the confidence to advocate for yourself is crucial when navigating perimenopause.    SUPPORTING LOVED ONES THROUGH PERIMENOPAUSE Mikelle shares that many people, especially spouses or partners, seek guidance on how to better understand and support their loved ones going through perimenopause or menopause. She suggests that it’s essential to meet the partner where they are, whether that’s through podcasts, blogs, or other resources. She highlights the work of Shirley Weir from Menopause Chicks and emphasizes that the same materials shared with women are valuable for men as well. Mikelle also points to several informative episodes and blog posts that break down symptoms like hot flashes, providing a starting point for anyone looking to learn more. She notes that many men are eager to understand what their partners are experiencing and find ways to help. Educating loved ones about perimenopause can strengthen relationships and provide the support needed to navigate this life stage together.   NO QUICK FIX FOR PERIMENOPAUSE Mikelle emphasizes that there is no magic bullet or quick fix for perimenopause. Instead, she stresses the importance of consistent, sustainable lifestyle changes, like exercise and healthy eating, to manage symptoms and prevent long-term health risks like cardiovascular disease, osteoporosis, and dementia. She highlights the significance of fueling the body properly, not just dieting, and addressing issues like weight management in a healthy, lasting way. Mikelle also points out that while medications, including hormone therapy, can be helpful, they are just one tool in the toolbox. It’s important to also consider factors like alcohol consumption and its impact on sleep and overall health. She encourages people to make gradual changes that feel achievable, rather than overwhelming, focusing on consistency over time. Sustainable lifestyle changes, small consistent steps, and a focus on long-term health can make a big difference in managing perimenopause.   THE POWER OF GREAT TEACHERS Mikelle reflects on the impactful teachers she’s had throughout her life, noting that while many have influenced her, they all shared two key qualities: they encouraged critical thinking and genuinely wanted to know her perspective, even when it differed from their own. More importantly, these teachers created a safe, authentic space for her to express herself and explore ideas freely. Mikelle believes that when teachers provide this opportunity, real growth and magic happen, leaving a lasting impact. Great teachers foster critical thinking and create space for authenticity, empowering students to thrive.   PRIDE IN PERSONAL GROWTH Mikelle reflects on her journey and the shift in her career trajectory, sharing that what she’s most proud of is the work she’s doing now. Both she and her co-founder Michelle once believed menopause marked the end of their most accomplished years, thinking they’d be winding down by 50. But through their experiences, they’ve discovered that this phase can be a time of personal and professional growth. Despite the challenges, Mikelle now feels empowered to contribute on her own terms, doing work that she believes in rather than following others’ expectations. Age and life changes can open up new possibilities, allowing us to contribute more meaningfully and on our own terms.   A DIFFERENT WAY FORWARD Mikelle reflects on the power of shifting perspective, moving away from the pressure to always have the right answer or meet others’ expectations. She shares how choosing curiosity over certainty, bringing her authentic self to each situation, and practicing compassion—especially in difficult moments—have been transformational. Extending kindness not just to others but also to herself has made challenges feel more manageable and opened up new possibilities. Let go of perfection, stay curious, and approach both yourself and others with compassion—doing so can change everything. ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Have you ever noticed that when people don’t see the relevance of what they’re learning, they tune out—whether it’s students in a classroom or employees in a training session? If learners don’t understand the “but why” something matters, they won’t care. And if they don’t care, they won’t learn. In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, we’re diving into how relevance and purpose can transform learning from a passive experience into something truly engaging and impactful. From connecting content to real-world applications to using reflection, discussion, and feedback loops, we’ll explore practical ways to make learning stick. Make sure you get your FREE Guide: Teaching Tool – But Why?   Listen in as we talk about: 2:51 The power of “But why?” 4:20 Why relevance matters in learning 7:39 Turning “But why?” into “Now I get It!” 15:21 Engaging learners beyond information 17:16 Making learning stick   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course      THE POWER OF “BUT WHY?” When learners ask, “but why?”, they’re not just being curious. They’re searching for meaning. Relevance in learning connects new information to their experiences, goals, or interests, while purpose helps them see why it matters in their lives or careers. Without this connection, learning feels like a checklist rather than something valuable. If people don’t understand the “why,” they disengage – mentally planning dinner, making grocery lists, or checking hockey stats instead of paying attention. But when learning feels relevant and purposeful, it sticks, leading to deeper engagement and real impact. If learners don’t know why something matters, they won’t care and if they don’t care, they won’t learn.   WHY RELEVANCE MATTERS IN LEARNING “When the ‘but why’ is clear, learning isn’t just relevant – it’s transformative.” From classrooms to corporate training rooms, the “but why” is the foundation of engagement and retention. Studies show that when learners, whether students, employees, or clients, don’t see the relevance of what they’re being taught, they check out, leading to lost opportunities for critical thinking, problem-solving, and growth. But when the purpose is clear, engagement soars, motivation strengthens, and information sticks. Understanding the “but why” transforms learning from something to get through into something that truly matters – whether it’s algebra helping with real-world problem-solving or leadership training shaping career success. When learning is relevant, it’s not just absorbed – it’s applied, remembered, and used to create real impact.     TURNING “BUT WHY?” INTO “NOW I GET IT!” To make learning truly meaningful, we need to go beyond simply presenting information. We need to help learners see the “but why” behind it. Whether it’s high school chemistry or corporate training, the key is making it relevant. This means connecting new concepts to real-world applications, telling compelling stories, providing concrete examples, and building on prior knowledge. Addressing misconceptions, showing the benefits, and even highlighting the consequences of not knowing can make a huge difference in engagement and retention. When learners understand why something matters, they’re more likely to stay motivated, absorb information, and apply it in meaningful ways. When learning is connected to real-world meaning, it shifts from something to endure to something that inspires growth and action.   ENGAGING LEARNERS BEYOND INFORMATION Understanding the “but why” behind learning isn’t just about making content relevant. It’s about making it engaging. To move learners from passive listeners to active participants, encourage reflection with thought-provoking questions, have them brainstorm real-life applications, and foster peer discussions where they can share insights and experiences. Feedback loops are another key tool – checking in regularly ensures learners are making meaningful connections and allows for immediate clarification. When learners actively engage with content and see how it applies to their own lives, they’re more likely to stay motivated, absorb information, and put it into action. Learning isn’t just about what we take in. It’s about how we connect, reflect, and apply it to our own experiences.   MAKING LEARNING STICK Addressing the “but why” in learning isn’t just about engagement. It’s about making knowledge meaningful and lasting. To do this, consider how you can connect your material to real-world situations, industry trends, or learners’ personal and professional goals. Identify common misconceptions and tackle them head-on to reinforce understanding. Encourage learners to reflect on why the material matters to them, helping them see its long-term value. When people understand the relevance of what they’re learning, they’re more likely to stay engaged, remember it, and apply it. Before teaching anything, ask yourself: Have I answered the “but why?” If you have, learning will be more impactful, memorable, and meaningful.     REFERENCES Association for Talent Development (ATD): ATD Research – Organizations are Experiencing a Leadership Skills Gap Emergn: The Pursuit of Effective Workplace Training Gallup: K-12 Schools Struggle to Engage Gen Z Students

Are you curious about how understanding your brain can transform learning, teaching, and everyday life? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Samantha Woods, the founder of Kaizen Education Services and a self-proclaimed “brain nerd,” who has spent over 20 years exploring neuroscience and its practical applications. Together, we discuss how executive functioning skills are the key to thriving in today’s fast-paced world. Samantha shares her journey from classroom teacher to trailblazer in executive skills coaching through the innovative Brain Hub Academy. Whether you’re an educator, parent, or simply curious about optimizing your brain’s potential, this conversation is packed with actionable strategies to unlock your full potential.   Listen in as we talk about: 02:42 Unlocking learning potential 06:44 The brain’s CEO – executive functioning skills 09:59 ADHD and Executive Functioning 17:50 Practical tools for executive functioning 24:40 The brain’s response to anxiety 28:09 The future of education 33:04 The Brain Hub Academy 38:30 A teacher who inspired growth 41:00 Hope and resilience in teaching   Connect with Samantha: Website: https://kaizeneduc.com/ LinkedIn: Samantha Woods Instagram: @kaizeneduc Facebook: @KaizenEducationServices Facebook Group: Know Better, Do Better! Understanding ADHD Kids YouTube: Kaizen Education Services   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    UNLOCKING LEARNING POTENTIAL Samantha’s fascination with the brain and executive functioning started with what she calls “the four boys” who changed everything for her. As a teacher assigned to support struggling students, she was handed assessments and reports that didn’t explain why these bright kids weren’t thriving. Determined to find answers, she stumbled into a seminar by Dr. Peg Dawson—completely by accident—and discovered the missing piece: executive functioning. It wasn’t about behavior or intelligence; it was about how these students were being taught. That realization ignited an 80% passion-fueled journey into neuroscience, forever shaping how she approached learning and success. Learning isn’t just about what we teach—it’s about how we support the brain’s ability to process, organize, and thrive.   THE BRAIN’S CEO – EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONING SKILLS Executive functioning skills are like the brain’s management system—often called the “CEO” or “conductor” of the brain. Found in the prefrontal cortex, these skills help us plan, organize, start tasks, stay focused, and regulate emotions. The catch? They’re the last part of the brain to fully develop! Samantha first learned about executive functioning at a workshop, and it completely changed how she saw learning struggles—not as a lack of intelligence, but as a challenge in brain development. Understanding executive functioning can be life-changing—once we recognize these skills, we can find better ways to support ourselves and others.   ADHD AND EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONING  ”Attention deficit disorder isn’t actually a deficit of attention at all. It’s misdirected attention.” ADHD and executive functioning challenges go hand in hand, yet many people don’t realize they’re deeply connected. Executive functioning skills—like focus, impulse control, and organization—are often delayed by up to 30% in ADHD brains, making an 18-year-old function more like a 14-year-old in these areas. Unlike the common stereotype, ADHD isn’t just about hyperactivity; many people, especially girls, fly under the radar because their struggles manifest as inattention or anxiety rather than disruptive behavior. The key to supporting individuals with ADHD isn’t just managing behavior—it’s addressing the underlying executive functioning delays that make everyday tasks harder. ADHD isn’t about intelligence or bad behavior—it’s about lagging executive functioning skills. Understanding this shift can change the way we support and empower those with ADHD.   PRACTICAL TOOLS FOR EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONING SKILLS Samantha explains that executive functioning skills are essential for everyone, not just those with ADHD, and can be developed through practical, everyday strategies. She highlights the importance of modeling behaviors like time management and impulse control, particularly in an era full of distractions like phones. One powerful approach is talking about “brains, not behavior,” which helps individuals understand why they might be struggling to focus and how they can regain control. Samantha stresses that scaffolding—breaking tasks into manageable chunks and actively teaching students how to organize, study, and manage their time—is crucial. These strategies aren’t just for kids, though; they’re useful for adults too, especially in our information-heavy, tech-driven world. Everyone can benefit from building a personalized toolkit for managing life’s challenges, and that toolkit evolves over time. Creating and refining your own toolkit for executive functioning is essential for success, no matter your age or diagnosis.   THE BRAIN’S RESPONSE TO ANXIETY Samantha dives into the connection between executive functioning, anxiety, and emotional regulation, explaining how modern life overloads our brains with constant “threats.” She uses the analogy of the brain’s amygdala acting as a security guard, deciding what’s a threat and triggering the fight-or-flight response. In today’s world, those threats aren’t just physical—things like social media, a math test, or a presentation can set off this alarm system. When anxiety is triggered, it shuts down the thinking brain, preventing us from using our executive functioning skills. This is particularly problematic for kids and adults with ADHD, who may struggle with impulse control and emotional regulation. The result? Anxiety overwhelms the thinking brain, making it harder to manage tasks or emotions effectively. While this response was protective in prehistoric times, it’s less helpful today, especially with the constant influx of stimuli. Managing anxiety and developing executive functioning skills go hand in hand—without them, our brains struggle to function in today’s overstimulating world.   RETHINKING THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION Samantha passionately advocates for a fundamental shift in the education system to better support modern learners, emphasizing that it’s not the fault of teachers or principals, but rather the outdated structure that’s not meeting the needs of today’s students. She argues that the current system, which prioritizes content delivery, doesn’t equip students with the critical executive functioning skills—like problem-solving, planning, and organization—that are essential for success in the real world. She highlights how even highly educated professionals, like spine surgeons, are shocked by the lack of these skills in their residents, pointing out that if students aren’t taught these skills, they can’t develop them. For neurodiverse or anxious students, the traditional education model can actually be damaging, as it doesn’t fit their unique needs. Samantha calls for a reimagined approach that focuses more on teaching life skills than just content, believing that the system must evolve to truly prepare students for the future. The future of education must prioritize developing executive functioning skills, not just content, to help all students succeed in an increasingly complex world.   THE BRAIN HUB ACADEMY The Brain Hub Academy, created by Samantha, evolved from years of in-person coaching into an accessible online platform designed to help both parents and educators develop essential executive functioning skills in students. Originally intended for parents, the platform expanded after educators expressed interest, resulting in a hybrid model that includes professional development for teachers and a student-focused learning area. The Brain Hub Academy provides a variety of tools, strategies, and cognitive assessments to help users understand how their brains work, focusing on strengths and areas for improvement. By normalizing these differences and integrating executive functioning skills into classrooms, Samantha hopes to reduce educator burnout and empower students with the confidence to manage their learning challenges. It’s a collaborative space where parents, educators, and students can work together to build skills and foster growth in a way that makes learning more effective and less stressful. The Brain Hub Academy shows how understanding the brain and executive functioning skills can create a more supportive and empowering learning environment for everyone—students and educators alike.   A TEACHER WHO INSPIRED GROWTH Samantha reflects on the profound impact of Mary Ann Johnston, her former principal, who became her ultimate mentor in education. Mary Ann was the embodiment of lifelong learning and growth—she never stopped improving herself and encouraged everyone around her, especially new teachers, to do the same. Her ability to set achievable challenges, always pushing others to reach for more, instilled a sense of continuous progress in Samantha. Beyond being an educational leader, Mary Ann’s intuitive support and recognition of each person’s strengths made her an exceptional role model. Samantha credits her for teaching her the value of authenticity, personalized growth, and the importance of never settling for the status quo. The best mentors inspire growth by challenging you to reach higher, recognizing your strengths, and pushing you to always improve, no matter where you are in your journey.   HOPE AND RESILIENCE IN TEACHING Samantha shares a powerful message about the importance of perseverance and modeling resilience, especially for those working with children. Drawing inspiration from Winston Churchill’s famous words, “If you’re going through hell, keep going,” she encourages educators, parents, and mentors to keep pushing forward even when times are tough. Kids, she notes, are always watching and learning from how adults navigate challenges. By showing them that it’s okay to struggle, fail, and pivot, we teach them the invaluable skills of resilience, adaptability, and hope. Samantha emphasizes that the most important thing we can do for the next generation is lead by example—walking through the storm and showing them how to emerge stronger on the other side. The most powerful lesson we can teach is not just through words, but through actions—by facing challenges with resilience and showing kids how to navigate their own struggles.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, we’re diving into microlearning – an innovative way to teach and share knowledge in small, digestible chunks. Whether you’re a teacher, corporate trainer, coach, or content creator, microlearning offers a way to engage your audience, improve knowledge retention, and make learning accessible for today’s fast-paced world. We’ll explore what microlearning is, why it works so well, and how you can incorporate it into your teaching or training strategies. From boosting engagement to sparking curiosity, this episode is packed with actionable tips and ideas to help you make a big impact through small lessons. Make sure you get your FREE Guide: Teaching Tool – Microlearning   Listen in as we talk about: 02:13 What is microlearning?  04:35 Why should you care about microlearning?  09:40 Microlearning in different settings and contexts 13:21 When should you use microlearning (and when not to) 14:35 Microlearning strategies 19:13 How to apply microlearning effectively 22:01 Microlearning reflection questions   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    WHAT IS MICROLEARNING? “Small wins are incredibly motivating because they create a sense of progress and accomplishment, even when the end goal feels far away.” Microlearning is about delivering information in small, focused chunks. Think of it like eating an elephant – one bite at a time. Whether it’s a short video, an Instagram carousel, or a single slide in a training session, microlearning breaks complex topics into digestible pieces that are less overwhelming and more impactful. Breaking learning into small, manageable steps makes it easier to absorb and apply new knowledge.   WHY SHOULD YOU CARE ABOUT MICROLEARNING? Microlearning fits seamlessly into our digital world, making it accessible anytime, anywhere. It boosts retention by focusing on one concept at a time and sparks curiosity by giving learners just enough to keep them coming back for more. Studies show it can improve knowledge retention by up to 80% and increase engagement by 50% in business contexts. Microlearning is an effective way to meet learners where they are while keeping them engaged and motivated.   MICROLEARNING IN DIFFERENT SETTINGS AND CONTEXTS Microlearning blurs the lines between formal and informal learning, supports self-directed learning, and makes it possible to learn on the go. It’s a perfect fit for today’s busy world, allowing learners to fit education into their schedules and retain knowledge better by focusing on key points. Microlearning empowers learners to take control of their education and thrive in diverse settings.   WHEN TO USE MICROLEARNING (AND WHEN NOT TO) Microlearning is ideal for teaching clear, simple ideas, sparking curiosity, or reinforcing larger lessons. However, it’s not the best approach for complex topics requiring deep understanding or hands-on practice. Use microlearning strategically to deliver focused, impactful lessons—but recognize when a more in-depth approach is needed.   MICROLEARNING STRATEGIES Try these six microlearning strategies: Question-Answer: Pose a question and share a quick, clear answer to spark curiosity. 3-Steps: Break a task into three easy steps for simplicity and clarity. Micro-Scenario: Use real-life situations to encourage decision-making. 1-Minute Knowledge Snack: Share quick, actionable tips learners can use immediately. Interactive: Involve learners through polls, quizzes, or discussions. Quick Challenge: Give a task learners can complete right away to apply their knowledge. Microlearning strategies are versatile and can be tailored to fit any teaching or training context.   HOW TO APPLY MICROLEARNING EFFECTIVELY Here are six tips to make microlearning work for you: Focus on one idea at a time. Use visuals to enhance understanding. Create microlearning as teasers for larger topics. Engage learners with questions or interactive elements. Be consistent by sharing regular short lessons. Repurpose long-form content into bite-sized pieces. Small, consistent efforts with microlearning can create lasting impacts in any educational or professional setting.   MICROLEARNING REFLECTION QUESTIONS How do you currently use microlearning in your personal or professional life? What’s a topic you would like to break down into smaller learning moments? How could you use microlearning to improve engagement with your audience or students? Where do you see microlearning fitting into your current teaching, training, coaching, or content strategy?   REFERENCES Innovito: Implementing Microlearning Strategies: A Comprehensive Guide for 2024 Learning Guild: Microlearning 2024: Current State and Future Implications  

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I am joined by Paisley Churchill. Paisley is one of my incredible clients – and when I say ‘incredible,’ I truly mean it. We started working together this fall to create an online, self-directed course. From the start, Paisley impressed me with her deep knowledge, diverse and rich life experiences, and her warm, engaging personality. She’s not only fun to work with, but her commitment to crafting a high-impact learning experience for her students is unparalleled. What’s more, Paisley’s work ethic is second to none. As with all of my clients, I’ve learned so much from her throughout this process. It’s been an absolute pleasure collaborating with Paisley! Paisley Churchill has worked with hundreds of companies, from startups to established businesses, helping them bring their software visions to life. With experience in economic development, supporting a $100M fund, and launching over 30 custom software projects, Paisley has seen firsthand how costly mistakes happen when founders don’t know what they don’t know. Drawing on her extensive background in custom software development, consulting, and entrepreneurship, Paisley founded The Tech Translator to empower non-technical founders and business leaders. Through The Tech Translator, Paisley offers comprehensive courses designed to break down the software development process. These courses help participants reduce frustrations, avoid costly missteps, and confidently lead their projects from concept to completion. By demystifying the development journey, founders will be equipped with the knowledge and tools to collaborate more effectively with their tech teams and bring their software ideas to life. The curriculum covers essential tech terms, software development methodologies, monetization strategies, and effective communication techniques. It also provides a structured framework for creating a product map, enabling participants to communicate their needs clearly with their development teams. By bridging the gap between business vision and technical execution, Paisley helps founders save time, money, and headaches, ensuring their product visions come to life smoothly and successfully.   Listen in as we talk about: 03:49 Paisley’s journey into tech 06:59 Bridging the tech knowledge gap 10:40 Challenges for non-technical founders 14:02 Bringing software to life for learners 22:00 The key building blocks of software development 25:33 The real cost of app development 29:21 Turning your app idea into reality 33:00 Tech myths and misconceptions 35:56 Learning beyond the classroom 39:00 Perseverance pays off 40:20 Paisley answers some rapid-fire questions 45:10 The power of bite-sized learning   Connect with Paisley: Website: https://www.techtranslator.ca/ LinkedIn:  Paisley Churchill The Tech Translator Instagram: @the_tech_translator   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    PAISLEY’S JOURNEY INTO TECH Paisley’s journey into the tech world began with a love for business that took root during her university years. She joined social entrepreneurship clubs and quickly became fascinated by how businesses work, from understanding markets to crafting the right product. This early passion eventually led her to work with a variety of tech companies, helping them bring strategy and product development together. She also played a key role in Calgary’s economic development, helping to position the city as a tech hub. While Paisley didn’t initially see herself as a “tech” person, she recognized that a strong business foundation rather than technical expertise alone was key to succeeding in the digital age. Her career evolved from startups to consulting, where she now helps entrepreneurs and companies build and refine their products. For Paisley, the key to thriving in tech lies in combining business savvy with an understanding of how technology can transform ideas into reality.   BRIDGING THE TECH KNOWLEDGE GAP Paisley noticed a significant gap in the resources available to non-technical founders navigating the software development process. Having worked in custom software and with startups, she heard countless stories of entrepreneurs losing money or facing delays due to poor communication or misunderstanding of the software development process. Despite the wealth of business resources teaching how to start a company or market a product, there seemed to be little support for the crucial middle step: bringing a tech product to life. This realization sparked Paisley to create learning experiences that empower non-technical founders with the knowledge they need to manage their software development projects effectively without getting overwhelmed by coding or falling for misleading shortcuts. Her goal is to equip founders with practical, realistic tools to build their products, without falling into the trap of “get rich quick” promises. For non-technical founders, understanding the product development process is key – not to build code, but to manage and guide the creation of their tech products successfully.   CHALLENGES FOR NON-TECHNICAL FOUNDERS Paisley highlights a common mistake among non-technical founders: they often place too much trust in their development teams, assuming that tech is beyond their understanding. While developers are experts in coding, they aren’t experts in how the business needs to function. This misalignment can lead to costly issues, such as budget overruns and miscommunication. Founders sometimes skip the crucial step of understanding the basics of software development, leaving them vulnerable to scope creep and unexpected costs. One key thing Paisley wishes all non-technical founders knew is the importance of understanding how data flows between platforms. This knowledge helps them make informed decisions about what changes are feasible and how to communicate their needs clearly to their development team. For non-technical founders, having a basic understanding of how software works and how data is exchanged can make a world of difference in managing projects successfully and avoiding costly mistakes.   BRINGING SOFTWARE TO LIFE FOR LEARNERS Paisley’s passion for teaching shines through as she reflects on how her own journey has shaped the way she helps others understand the complexities of software development. She aims to demystify technical concepts by breaking them down into real-world, relatable examples, from Facebook to home-building metaphors, making these ideas accessible for non-technical learners. Her course doesn’t just focus on definitions; it’s about showing how foundational knowledge, like the difference between front end and back end, impacts decision-making and saves money in the long run. Through a hands-on approach, learners apply these concepts to their own projects, creating an engaging, practical experience. By walking through the entire process and emphasizing reflection and real-world application, Paisley ensures that students don’t just learn theory, they understand how to use it in their own work. The best way to learn is by doing. Applying what you learn to real-life situations not only solidifies your understanding, but also helps you see the value of complex concepts in action. THE KEY BUILDING BLOCKS OF SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT Paisley emphasizes the importance of understanding the foundational concepts of software development, such as front end, back end, server, and  hosting. These may seem basic, but they serve as the building blocks that will shape how your product functions in the future. She also highlights a crucial point: software development is far more complex than it appears. While apps seem seamless on the surface, there’s a lot of behind-the-scenes work by skilled professionals, which is often why software quotes can feel high. Paisley’s course helps founders recognize this complexity and build empathy for the development process. By focusing on both technical knowledge and the human side of development, founders gain a deeper understanding of why things are harder than they seem and why it’s important to account for these challenges when making decisions. Building software is harder than it looks, and understanding its complexities can help founders make more informed decisions and develop empathy for the people making it happen.   THE REAL COST OF APP DEVELOPMENT When it comes to app development, the question of cost can be tricky. Paisley compares it to building a house. There are so many factors at play. To develop something of quality, expect to invest at least $100,000, and for something more complex, it could go up to $500,000. While you can build cheaper apps using templates, true innovation and integration come with a higher price tag. Beyond development costs, there are ongoing expenses for maintenance and necessary updates, which could easily add up to 20% of your initial budget every year. And don’t forget that bugs are inevitable. Software will break, and you’ll need to pay for fixes, even if they weren’t part of the original plan. Being aware of these realities upfront can help prevent sticker shock and set more realistic expectations for what’s involved in bringing your app idea to life. Be prepared for ongoing costs and maintenance when developing an app. It’s more than just building it; it’s about long-term care and realistic expectations.   TURNING YOUR APP IDEA INTO REALITY Feeling overwhelmed with your app idea? The first step to moving forward is to get super clear on every detail – how each feature will work, what flows are necessary, how the reporting system should look, and even the kind of notifications and integrations you’ll need. Paisley emphasizes the importance of sketching it all out and then revisiting the plan after a couple of weeks, talking to customers, and refining it. The key is to thoroughly understand your app’s needs before even talking to a developer. By doing this work upfront, you’ll avoid surprise costs later and ensure that your vision is clear before you get quotes. This foundational work, as taught in Paisley’s course, isn’t about learning a checklist. It’s about learning the framework and mindset that will help you make informed decisions, set realistic expectations, and avoid those nasty budget-busting change orders. The more detailed your planning is before you even approach developers, the more likely you are to avoid surprises and save money later on.   TECH MYTHS AND MISCONCEPTIONS In the tech world, there’s a common misconception that you need to be highly technical or have a big tech team to bring your app idea to life. But Paisley emphasizes that the real magic happens in the product side: understanding your client’s needs, mapping out the user journey, and articulating your vision clearly. The tech team is there to execute your ideas, not necessarily to shape them. Her course empowers entrepreneurs to tackle these softer, strategic aspects themselves, helping them approach developers with confidence. Sometimes, though, the best lesson is realizing that you don’t need to build everything yourself. Many SaaS (Software as a Service) solutions can provide exactly what you need, saving time, money, and headaches. You don’t always need to build from scratch. Understanding your vision and knowing when to leverage existing solutions can save you a lot of effort and cost.   LEARNING BEYOND THE CLASSROOM Paisley’s most impactful teacher isn’t someone from her business world, but her jiu-jitsu coach, Diana. Three years ago, Paisley joined a women-only jiu-jitsu class, despite having no athletic background. What drew her in was Diana’s ability to create a welcoming and empowering community for women of all skill levels. Diana’s teaching style is highly strategic and personalized, meeting each person where they are, while maintaining a steady pace of learning that’s easy to absorb. For Paisley, this experience is a reminder that learning isn’t just about mastering technical skills, it’s also about creating an environment where people feel supported and motivated to grow. Whether in business or jiu-jitsu, creating a community-focused, supportive learning environment can make all the difference in someone’s growth and confidence.   PERSEVERANCE PAYS OFF “What sets someone apart from somebody who’s doing amazing things and somebody who’s not, is the fact that the person that’s doing the great things didn’t quit.” When Paisley looks back on her journey, what she’s most proud of is simply not giving up. While there have been many challenges along the way, the key to her success has been persistence. She’s learned that the difference between those who achieve their goals and those who don’t often comes down to the ability to keep going, no matter how tough things get. Whether launching her course, working on her startup, or navigating the world of custom software, the obstacles haven’t stopped her. They’ve built the foundation for everything she knows now. For Paisley, it’s not about one big victory but about the cumulative power of perseverance through hard times. Success is built on resilience. Keep going, even when it feels hard, and all the lessons along the way will come together to shape your bigger picture.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? How to paint on a canvas What is a book, podcast, movie, or TV show that you’ve enjoyed recently and learned something from? Movie: Wicked Book: How to ADHD – An Insiders Guide to Working with Your Brain – Not Against It by Jessica McCabe If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Taylor Swift   THE POWER OF BITE-SIZED LEARNING Paisley shares a piece of wisdom that anyone on a learning journey can benefit from: don’t let the big picture overwhelm you. Whether you’re diving into tech, business, or any other field, take it one bite at a time. Small, consistent learning moments like reading short articles, following experts, or Googling something that sparks your interest, can add up to huge progress. These micro-learning moments make it easier to tackle bigger tasks like reading a book or taking a course. The key is to start, keep going, and let each small step build on the last. Break down big goals into smaller steps, and embrace the process of gradual learning. Over time, those small actions will lead to meaningful progress.   ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

Is it time to redefine what success looks like for you? Many of us reach a point where we feel the need to reassess our paths and find true alignment in our lives. In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I am joined by Fede Vargas. Fede is a leader in podcasting, leveraging over 15 years of experience in sales and distribution within the media and entertainment industry. He is the founder of My Most Authentic Life, a platform and podcast dedicated to exploring transformative changes and unconventional paths. Fede has taken the stage at premier podcasting events such as Podcast Movement Evolutions in Los Angeles and PodSummit YYC 2024, and he has attended industry-leading events, including the Podcast Upfronts in New York City. Born in Mexico and raised in Canada, Fede brings a unique global perspective to his work. He has lived in Europe, traveled extensively across Asia Pacific and Latin America, and is fluent in both English and Spanish. Now based in Toronto, Canada, he focuses on sharing meaningful stories and fostering connections through podcasting. Fede is an alumnus of the Podcast Incubator at Stony Brook University in New York, the Screenwriting Residency at the Canadian Film Centre, and holds a degree from The Creative School at Toronto Metropolitan University.   Listen in as we talk about: 03:09 Fede’s story 05:05 Getting in the room at community building events 07:11 Unconventional paths and redefining success 11:14 Building My Most Authentic Life  15:02 Misconceptions of unconventional paths 17:25 Leaning into the unknown 20:41 Authenticity and vulnerability 22:00 Authenticity – the power of alignment 23:08 Podcasting and leadership 28:22 Impact and influence through podcasting 30:18 Life changes and mental health 34:22 The impact of mentorship 37:20 What Fede is most proud of 38:39 Fede answers some rapid-fire questions 40:17 Words of wisdom   Connect with Fede: Website: https://www.mymostauthenticlife.com/ LinkedIn: Fede Vargas – My Most Authentic Life  Instagram: @mymostauthenticlife TikTok: @mymostauthenticlife Podcast: My Most Authentic Life   Shared by Fede: Podcast: School of Greatness with host Lewis Howes Episode 789: Learning to Lead with John Maxwell  Podcast: How to Be a Better Human with host Chris Duffy  Episode: How to develop the habits you want – and get rid of the ones you don’t with James Clear   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    LEANING INTO THE UNKNOWN Taking the leap into uncertainty can feel daunting, but it’s all about those small, meaningful steps forward. Whether it’s starting yoga or embarking on a personal growth journey, the key is to get started, even if it’s imperfect. Fede shares how working with a life coach helped him embrace the unknown, learning to focus on progress over perfection. The heart of your work – the genuine intention behind it – will resonate with others more than the flawless execution. It’s easy to get caught up in tweaking and perfecting, but sometimes you just need to release things into the world, even if they aren’t “perfect.” Looking back at his early podcast episodes, Fede appreciates how those raw beginnings still held the essential spark, reminding us that the core of what we create is what truly matters. The heart of your work is more important than perfection – embrace imperfection and take that first step.   AUTHENTICITY – THE POWER OF ALIGNMENT “Alignment has so many positive aspects of it. Being present feels like home. It feels comfortable. And when you feel like you’re at home, when you feel comfortable, then your most authentic self can shine through.” Authenticity is often seen as a lofty ideal, but at its core, it’s about alignment – when your actions, thoughts, and energy are all in harmony. Fede shares that being aligned feels like coming home – comfortable, grounded, and natural. When you’re aligned, you can be fully present in the moment, which allows your true self to shine through. Authenticity isn’t about having a perfectly polished answer or persona; it’s about being genuinely in tune with who you are right now, in this moment. It’s a practice that takes time, but the more you align with your values and your purpose, the more you can show up as your real, unfiltered self. Authenticity isn’t about perfection; it’s about alignment – when you feel at home with yourself, you can truly be yourself.   LIFE CHANGES AND MENTAL HEALTH “The mental health journey is intertwined with all big life changes and unconventional paths. They’re all interlinked.” Fede’s podcast, My Most Authentic Life, weaves together themes of mental health, authenticity, and the unconventional paths people take to reinvent themselves. Fede shares that the mental health journey is deeply intertwined with big life changes – whether it’s a pivot in career, navigating post-pandemic shifts, or exploring dual cultural identities. His podcast is a raw and transparent space where listeners can hear about real stories of transformation and resilience, often touching on struggles with mental health in ways that feel natural rather than forced. The beauty of his podcast lies in its ability to normalize tough conversations and remind listeners they’re not alone in their challenges. Authenticity shines through, not as a grand statement, but as part of the everyday narrative, with the overarching message that these changes, no matter how unconventional, are all part of a larger, interconnected journey toward living a more genuine life. Life’s big changes and mental health struggles are interconnected; embracing both helps us grow and feel less alone.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? Embrace more physical adventures in the great outdoors If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela ——————————- Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I am joined by Tchadas Leo.  Tchadas is an Indigenous TV Journalist, Podcaster, TV host, Actor, Producer and Documentarian based on Vancouver Island. His Indigenous lineage belongs with the Homalco First Nation and the Stillaguamish Tribe of Indians. He also has Peruvian &#38; Argentinian ancestry. Tchadas has been with the CHEK Media group, with his multi-national award-winning podcast and TV show known as Our Native Land, since 2020. These accolades include 2022 Canadian Podcast Awards’ Indigenous podcast of the year and 2023 Amazon Music&#8217;s top podcasts of the year. His talk show/podcast focuses on all things Indigenous from Vancouver Island and across Canada.  In 2023, Tchadas joined the CHEK News team as a full-time Journalist and recently became the first Coast Salish person to Anchor a newscast on Coast Salish territory. In 2024 Tchadas received the Broadcast Performer of Tomorrow award from the BCAB (British Columbia Association of Broadcasters) and the 2024 RTDNA (Radio Television Digital News Association) emerging journalist award honoring his work in journalism and anchoring. On top of several podcasts and local TV production projects, Tchadas works with Orca Cove Media as an Executive Producer to help create and develop Indigenous TV series for a major television network.   Listen in as we talk about: 03:30 Tchadas&#8217; media journey  08:21 Building community through podcasting 13:10 Preserving Indigenous language, stories, and history 18:10 Reconnecting with Indigenous roots and community 20:25 Building relationships with Indigenous communities 24:14 The power of listening 25:15 Storytelling for healing and reconciliation 30:20 Behind the challenges of Indigenous storytelling 33:30 What’s coming up next for Tchadas 36:54 Lessons from key mentors 40:15 Being authentic 41:33 Tchadas answers some rapid-fire questions 43:19 Embracing lifelong learning   Connect with Tchadas: Website: https://tchadasleo.ca/ LinkedIn: Tchadas Leo Instagram: @tchadas_leo Facebook: @tchadas.leo Podcasts: https://tchadasleo.ca/hosted/ Our Native Land Remember: Our People &#124; Our History: Recordings of Elders Explored Indigenous Voices of Vancouver Island Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    TCHADAS’ MEDIA JOURNEY Tchadas’ journey into the media world started at just 12 years old when he picked up a camera and fell in love with filmmaking. A chance encounter with a local nonprofit TV station led him to volunteer, and by 16, he was one of the youngest associate producers at Shaw. However, his path took several unexpected turns. After studying digital media, he found himself working in the car industry, followed by the hospitality industry &#8211; and then COVID hit, prompting a deep reflection on his true passion. With the support of his wife, he returned to his media roots, commuting from Vancouver Island to mainland British Columbia to study and eventually landing a journalism job at CHEK TV. Reflecting on his career, Tchadas emphasizes that it’s okay to take detours and that success often comes from circling back to what you truly love. Sometimes, finding your path means trying out many different roads before realizing where you truly belong.   BUILDING COMMUNITY THROUGH PODCASTING At PodSummit YYC 2024 in Calgary, Tchadas shared his experience of connecting with other podcasters and how events like these play a vital role in growing the podcasting community, especially for Indigenous voices. He was drawn to the summit after noticing a lack of Indigenous representation and offered to lend his expertise, leading to an invitation to speak. Tchadas highlighted the power of in-person gatherings for fostering collaboration, sharing knowledge, and supporting newcomers to the podcasting world. He emphasized how these events can provide the essential community support that many Indigenous podcasters need to navigate challenges like funding, audience growth, and branding. His takeaway? Creating spaces where diverse voices are welcomed and empowered is crucial for the continued growth of the podcasting industry. Community, collaboration, and shared resources are key to amplifying Indigenous voices in the media.   PRESERVING INDIGENOUS LANGUAGE, STORIES, AND HISTORY Tchadas shares the story behind Remember Our People, Our History: Recordings of Elders Explored, a podcast series that preserves and shares his Indigenous nation&#8217;s language, stories, and heritage. The podcast episodes were built around recordings of elders, with Tchadas reviewing these stories alongside community members, both in-person and remotely, to draw out additional memories and cultural insights. They also worked to translate elements of their language for listeners unfamiliar with it, making the stories more accessible. After the podcast’s success, the project expanded into a graphic novel aimed at engaging younger audiences. With help from UBC’s Comics Studies Cluster, the team produced a stunning novel illustrated by three Indigenous artists, which will soon be distributed to the community. Blending traditional storytelling with modern formats like podcasts and graphic novels can both preserve cultural knowledge and make it accessible to future generations.   RECONNECTING WITH INDIGENOUS ROOTS AND COMMUNITY Tchadas reflects on how his involvement in this project has shaped his understanding of cultural preservation. Not living on his reserve anymore, he never anticipated reconnecting with his Indigenous roots, but this project brought him back to his community. He highlighted the value of the past work of doing these recordings in the late 1990s and early 2000s, which was crucial in capturing elders’ voices and stories. Listening to these recordings, he was moved to hear his mother’s voice in the background, a reminder of her own pivotal role in language preservation. The project, he explains, was a true community effort, with many people working together to ensure the stories and traditions of their culture lived on. His takeaway? The importance of community collaboration, and how unexpected life experiences, like managing a restaurant or working in the car industry, can all contribute to the skills needed for such meaningful work. Reconnecting with culture and community can open unexpected doors to preserving what matters most.   BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES Tchadas shares the key lessons he&#8217;s learned from his work on the podcast and TV show Our Native Land, particularly when it comes to engaging with Indigenous communities. He emphasizes that creating meaningful stories takes time and patience, often requiring months of planning, building trust, and coordinating logistics. Whether he&#8217;s filming a single episode or conducting an interview, much of the work happens before the cameras even roll. Tchadas explains that a big part of his success has been simply listening &#8211; letting people share their stories at their own pace. He’s found that sometimes, the most powerful moments arise when he steps back and allows space for the conversation to unfold naturally. Through this process, he’s come to appreciate the importance of patience in both journalism and life. True engagement with communities is built on listening, time, and genuine connection &#8211; values that shape the way stories are told and shared.    <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://tianafech.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/e049_Quote_Tchadas.png" alt="Indigenous TV Journalist, Podcaster, TV host, Actor, Producer and Documentarian Tchadas Leo says “I’m going to listen and I’m going to learn.” " width="3000" height="3000" /> THE POWER OF LISTENING “I’m going to listen and I’m going to learn.” Tchadas reflects on the profound impact of truly listening, both as a journalist and in his personal life. He shares that much of his success in engaging with Indigenous communities and elders comes from simply being present, listening patiently, and learning from those he interacts with. He points out that this skill, while essential in his work, also applies to everyday life, like parenting. Tchadas has learned the value of absorbing stories and perspectives, even when they challenge his own views. Listening, he believes, is the key to building deeper connections and understanding.    STORYTELLING FOR HEALING AND RECONCILIATION Tchadas sees storytelling as a powerful tool for reconciliation, particularly when it gives a voice to marginalized communities that are often overlooked by mainstream media. Through his work, he’s been able to share the stories of Indigenous communities in a way that is respectful, patient, and engaging, sometimes reaching people who might otherwise never hear them. One example he shares is his experience working with the Ditidaht First Nation, where building relationships took months, but the impact of telling their stories was immediate. Stories can serve as a bridge to understanding, and for some viewers, they’re an eye-opening way to learn about challenges faced by these communities, such as the lack of basic infrastructure. Tchadas reflects on how these stories, when shared with care, not only educate others but can also aid in healing, especially when the storytelling process itself provides an outlet for Indigenous people to process and release painful histories. However, he acknowledges that not every community is ready to share their stories, and meeting people where they’re at is crucial in this work. Storytelling, when done with respect and patience, can foster understanding, healing, and reconciliation.   BEHIND THE CHALLENGES OF INDIGENOUS STORYTELLING Bringing Indigenous stories to a broader audience comes with its fair share of challenges, many of which go unnoticed by the public. For Tchadas, the biggest hurdle is time &#8211; balancing his regular news duties with his passion projects like Our Native Land while managing long commutes and tight schedules. Budget constraints also play a significant role, with limited funds impacting how far and wide stories can be told, especially for remote communities. But beyond logistical struggles, the challenge of rebuilding trust between media and Indigenous communities is crucial. Historically, the media often misrepresented or overlooked Indigenous voices, so regaining that trust takes time and patience. Additionally, the complexities of working within an island-based news station with limited resources require careful decision-making about which stories to prioritize. Despite these obstacles, Tchadas is committed to amplifying Indigenous voices in the media. Sharing Indigenous stories takes time, trust, and careful planning &#8211; it&#8217;s a process that goes beyond just the story itself.   WHAT’S COMING UP NEXT FOR TCHADAS Tchadas is juggling a variety of exciting projects that blend his passion for storytelling, community engagement, and personal growth. He&#8217;s working on new episodes for Our Native Land, including a compelling piece on kelp harvesting in Tofino, where an Indigenous nation is reviving this ancient practice with hopes of launching their first kelp farm. His long-anticipated graphic novel project &#8211; launched just last week! Additionally, he&#8217;s collaborating on a potential TV series pitch where he would be the executive producer. Though his schedule is packed, he&#8217;s learning to balance it all, saying no to some projects in order to avoid burnout and prioritize his family and his well being. Alongside these, he hopes for more acting opportunities, particularly enjoying roles that let his journalistic experience shine through. It&#8217;s clear that his drive for creative work continues to fuel his journey, and there&#8217;s more on the horizon! Tchadas plans to focus on what matters most while staying open to new possibilities.   LESSONS FROM KEY MENTORS Tchadas reflects on the key figures who’ve guided his journey, both in and out of the classroom. One of his earliest mentors was Kathy Babchuk, his media studies teacher in grades 7, 8 and 9,, who encouraged him to explore his creative potential and treated her students like adults. This early empowerment sparked his interest in media, which led to him volunteering at a local TV station. Over the years, Tchadas has benefited from mentorship by figures like BC news legend Ian Haysom and veteran anchor Scott Fee, who offered guidance as he developed his podcasting and journalism skills. Tchadas is also grateful for his current news director, Joe Perkins, whose influence has shaped his approach in the media. He acknowledges the importance of mentorship, noting that the supportive team around him &#8211; whether in the newsroom or his personal life &#8211; has played a crucial role in his growth. Mentorship is vital to growth &#8211; learning from others’ experience and wisdom can help us unlock our own potential.   BEING AUTHENTIC Reflecting on his journey, Tchadas shares that he&#8217;s most proud of staying authentic throughout his career. As an Indigenous reporter, he&#8217;s found a way to represent his culture while doing what he loves without having to conform to expectations in the newsroom. While he&#8217;s comfortable with being labeled an &#8220;Indigenous journalist,&#8221; he’s also determined not to be defined solely by that. For him, it’s about doing the job with integrity, while bringing his own humor, character, and humanity to the role. He’s proud to be an Indigenous presence in the mainstream media, just doing the news like anyone else. For Tchadas, staying true to himself has been key to his success, and he feels grateful that he’s been able to bring his full self to his work. Authenticity is key &#8211; being true to who you are opens doors for personal and professional growth.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? Learn how to kick box and box What is a book, podcast, movie or TV show that you have learned from recently? Podcast: Paul &#38; Parker Pod with Paul Haysom and Brendan Parker  If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? News anchors he listened to growing up &#8211; Tony Parsons, Pamela Martin and Chris Gayles   EMBRACING LIFELONG LEARNING Tchadas shares a powerful reminder that it’s never too late to pursue your dreams and further your education, even when life feels like it’s already on a set path. Reflecting on his own journey, he recalls going back to school at 30, feeling out of place among younger students but pushing through the challenge by working three times as hard. He emphasizes the importance of surrounding yourself with supportive people who want to see you succeed, sharing how his family, especially his wife, made sacrifices to help him follow his passion. Keep learning, work hard, and find the right support &#8211; success follows when you stay committed to your dreams. &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I am joined by Emily Lee. Emily is a registered Occupational Therapist, and Board Certified Behaviour Analyst. She is passionate about working with autistic children and their families and continues to dive deeply into her own ongoing learning about interventions that can support her clients. Since graduating from a Bachelor&#8217;s degree in OT at the University of Toronto (2002), she has also completed her Masters of Rehabilitation Sciences at UBC (2017) and a graduate diploma in Behavioural Analysis from the Florida Institute of Technology (2022). Her family regularly teases her about her never-ending education adventures! Emily currently works as the OT Clinic Lead for a non-profit organization in Vancouver called Nurture Society for Learning and Development, where lots of fun OTs, SLPs (Speech-Language Pathologists) and Therapy Assistants provide early intervention for kids with a variety of support needs. She spends lots of time thinking about play and specifically how to support kids in learning how to spontaneously initiate their own ideas in play and initiate new motor and self care skills. She&#8217;s a keen advocate for finding creative ways to build supports for kids so that they can find meaning and joy in the things they do everyday, so that their family and helpers can support them with confidence and so that the environments they journey through are kinder, more supportive and, frankly, more fun.  In her free time, Emily plays board games, cooks and hikes with her husband, Ryan, and teenagers, Eloise and Lawrence. She loves summer swims in the ocean and playing in the woods.  Listen in as we talk about: 5:08 Lessons from nature and community at Pearson College 10:23 From childhood play to occupational therapy 21:14 The heart of occupational therapy 24:27 The power of connections in learning 30:00 Relationship building in occupational therapy 37:02 Fostering creativity through play 41:08 Teaching and learning together with families  44:25 Emily’s favourite teachers 46:09 What Emily is most proud of 48:07 Emily answers some rapid-fire questions 50:40 Embracing mistakes as learning opportunities    Connect with Emily and learn more about the Nurture Society for Learning and Development: Website: https://nurturelearn.ca/ LinkedIn: Emily Lee Instagram: @nurture.learning Facebook: @nurturelearn Video Resource: Autism Community Training SLP and OT Support for Autistic Children &#38; Families An Introduction from Nurture Learning and Development ~ Presented by Kate Chase, PhD, SLP, BCBA &#38; Emily Lee, OT, BCBA Online Learning Platform: The Nurture Parent Path   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    LESSONS FROM NATURE AND COMMUNITY AT PEARSON COLLEGE Emily reflects on her transformative experience at Pearson College, describing it as a magical and humbling shift from a large public school in Toronto to a small, tight-knit community nestled in the woods. Living in this intimate environment with just 200 students, she learned the value of diverse perspectives and how connecting with people who don&#8217;t think like you can be both enriching and inspiring. The community aspect, coupled with the beauty of living in a rainforest, left a lasting impression on her, influencing her love for nature. She also highlights the rigorous academic challenges which taught her resilience and the importance of adaptability. Ultimately, Pearson College was not just about academics but about finding balance in a world of differing ideas, creating lasting relationships, and embracing personal growth. Surrounding yourself with diverse perspectives can shape who you are and inspire new ways of thinking.   FROM CHILDHOOD PLAY TO OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY Emily&#8217;s journey to becoming an occupational therapist (OT) was shaped by a mix of early influences and personal experiences. Her mom, who worked with occupational therapists in a hospital setting and later founded a nonprofit for people with facial differences, introduced Emily to the profession. Through job shadowing at Pearson College and volunteering with visually impaired children in England, Emily discovered a passion for helping others learn new skills and gain independence. Her parents&#8217; emphasis on community, connection, and experiential learning further shaped her approach. From her childhood of active outdoor play to her experiences in alternative education, where she learned to negotiate her own learning pace, Emily embraced the importance of adaptability, hands-on experience, and supporting others in their journey. The path to discovering your true calling often involves a mix of personal influences, hands-on experiences, and the courage to ask for help along the way.   THE HEART OF OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY Emily emphasizes that occupational therapy is not just about returning to work, as many might assume, but rather about helping people of all ages engage in the meaningful activities that define their lives. For children, this can include play, self-help skills like eating, sleeping, and dressing, as well as developing motor skills and navigating sensory experiences. OT is about supporting people to do the things they want and need to do, whether it&#8217;s moving their bodies, participating in school, or managing sensory sensitivities. It&#8217;s a holistic approach that considers how the world around us impacts our ability to engage with life in meaningful ways. Occupational therapy helps people of all ages find balance in their daily lives by focusing on the activities that shape who they are and how they interact with the world.   THE POWER OF CONNECTIONS IN LEARNING In her work as an occupational therapist, Emily emphasizes that the foundation of effective learning &#8211; especially for children &#8211; begins with connection. Before any learning happens, it’s crucial to engage with children in a way that fosters trust and curiosity. One of the key principles she highlights is the importance of teaching children through hands-on experiences, allowing them to make mistakes and learn from their own actions, whether that’s learning to feed themselves or mastering motor skills. She also points out how children build associations between daily experiences, like connecting a specific car ride to a familiar destination. These small moments can have a big impact on their ability to understand the world and learn new skills. The science of learning, Emily explains, is about intentionally creating meaningful connections &#8211; between actions, emotions, and environments &#8211; that help children grow. Effective learning comes from real-life experiences, where children are encouraged to explore, make mistakes, and connect their actions to real-world outcomes.   RELATIONSHIP BUILDING IN OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY In occupational therapy, particularly with children and families, building strong, authentic relationships is essential for progress. Emily explains that, whether working with kids or collaborating with a multidisciplinary team, the first step is to create genuine connections &#8211; getting on the child’s level, engaging with them where they’re at, and setting up environments that promote autonomy and choice. She emphasizes the importance of being generous in interpreting behaviors, understanding that kids are constantly trying to connect with the world around them. The same approach is extended to the staff at Nurture Society for Learning and Development, where Emily fosters an environment of safety, support, and mutual respect &#8211; where adults are encouraged to make mistakes, take breaks, and practice self-regulation. This holistic, empathetic approach helps everyone feel valued and comfortable, which is crucial for learning and growth. True learning happens when people feel safe and respected. Creating a space where people feel comfortable to be vulnerable is at the heart of meaningful change.   FOSTERING CREATIVITY THROUGH PLAY In occupational therapy, creativity plays a vital role in engaging children and helping them grow. Emily explains how using creative, play-based approaches, like the JASPER (Joint Attention, Symbolic Play, Engagement and Regulation) approach, encourages children to explore their environment, express themselves, and problem-solve. Occupational therapy starts with setting up play at the child&#8217;s current skill level, which fosters confidence and autonomy. From there, the occupational therapist joins in, taking turns, imitating, and modelling new ideas to help the child expand their play. The focus is on helping children initiate their own actions and ideas, which supports their creativity, motor skills, and communication. Emily emphasizes the importance of making space for children to make choices and express themselves without being told exactly what to do, as this process nurtures their sense of agency and creative thinking. Creativity isn&#8217;t just about fun &#8211; it&#8217;s about empowering children to take the lead in their own learning and growth, building confidence and resilience along the way.   TEACHING AND LEARNING TOGETHER &#8220;Teaching and learning isn&#8217;t just about the expertise I bring &#8211; it&#8217;s about co-creating solutions with families and meeting the child where they are, helping them find their own path to success.&#8221; In occupational therapy, teaching and learning are a reciprocal process, where the occupational therapist, family, and child engage in mutual exchanges, supporting and learning from each other to foster a child&#8217;s growth. Emily believes in an &#8220;open door&#8221; policy, where families are not just passive recipients of expertise, but active participants in the learning process alongside their child. By co-creating plans with families, Emily values their input and helps them feel confident in their parenting choices. Whether through direct involvement or observing, families are encouraged to engage at their own pace. A memorable moment for Emily was seeing a family, with whom she had worked for years, confidently advocate for their child in an IEP (Individual Education Plan) meeting &#8211; showing how much they had learned and grown through their partnership. Collaboration, openness, and mutual respect are the heart of effective learning.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? Learn how to play the ukulele or guitar What is a book, podcast, movie or TV show that you have learned from recently? Podcast: Two Sides of the Spectrum with Meg Proctor  If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Colleen &#8211; an exceptional occupational therapy colleague and special friend who passed away a number of years ago   EMBRACE MISTAKES AS LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES Emily shares a powerful and simple piece of wisdom: make mistakes. She encourages us not to shy away from mistakes or feel frustrated by them, but to embrace them as essential parts of the learning journey. Mistakes aren&#8217;t setbacks &#8211; they are opportunities to grow, learn, and try new things. Emily believes that by being generous with ourselves in interpreting our mistakes, we create space for growth and learning. Don’t fear mistakes; they are stepping stones to greater understanding and progress. &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I am joined by Miss Anne Goresht, former host of the children&#8217;s television show Romper Room and author of “I Am a Big Brother with a Superpower”. Miss Anne shares her journey from hosting Romper Room, a pioneering educational children&#8217;s show, to becoming an author and a passionate advocate for children&#8217;s reading and learning. She details her surprising path to becoming the host of Romper Room, emphasizes the importance of storytelling and education in her life, and discusses her new book aimed at helping children adjust to new siblings. Miss Anne also talks about the process of writing her book and collaborating with illustrator Karen Argue, as well as her plans to write a memoir and another children&#8217;s book focused on empathy. Before becoming an author, Miss Anne was the beloved host of the children&#8217;s television show, Romper Room, which aired from 1953 to 1994. The popular show was best known for its interactive format, with Miss Anne leading children through various educational activities and games. Romper Room was ground-breaking in its approach to children&#8217;s media, emphasizing education and socialization in a fun, engaging way. Like an all-time favourite school teacher forever ingrained in a child&#8217;s memory, Miss Anne has had an enormous impact on many children. She paved the way for several popular TV shows—Sesame Street, Mister Rogers&#8217; Neighbourhood, and The Friendly Giant. Combining her unique experiences and gift for teaching children, Miss Anne entertains and captures her young audience with compassion and humour with her book I am a Big Brother with a Superpower. Once again, children&#8217;s imaginations are stimulated through relatable characters and colourful illustrations. After all, she has forever believed that children&#8217;s books should be entertaining and educational, providing young readers with valuable life lessons. In addition to writing books, Miss Anne regularly visited the YMCA to share her love of reading and storytelling with children. She believes that every child has the potential to become a lifelong reader and hopes to inspire a new generation of book lovers.  Listen in as we talk about: 03:00 Becoming the host of Romper Room 08:35 A most memorable moment on Romper Room 10:43 Becoming an author &#8211; at 91 years young! 12:30 Collaborating with Illustrator Karen Argue 14:46 The journey of writing a book 18:36 Choosing joy and fun 19:58 The magic of storytelling 25:01 Advice for aspiring authors and educators 31:14 Miss Anne’s words of wisdom   Learn more about Miss Anne: Website: https://miss-anne.getresponsesite.com/ YouTube: About the Book: I Am A Big Brother With A Superpower  Book:  I Am A Big Brother With A Superpower   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    BECOMING THE HOST OF ROMPER ROOM During a playdate with a friend and her children, Miss Anne heard on the radio that Romper Room was looking for a new host. Initially skeptical, but encouraged by her friend and husband, she decided to pursue the opportunity. After getting her hair done in a beehive hairstyle, she attended the interview and audition. Ultimately, she was offered the job, marking the start of a magical journey. Embracing unexpected opportunities can lead to exciting new chapters in life!   A MOST MEMORABLE MOMENT ON ROMPER ROOM Miss Anne fondly recalls a memorable Easter episode of Romper Room when she took the initiative to bring in two rabbits from the zoo, thinking her director might forget. As she introduced the bunnies while singing a cheerful song, one rabbit quickly hopped on top of the other, leading to an unexpected but hilarious moment on camera. Viewers were delighted, and the switchboard lit up with calls from fathers eager to get a bunny from the show. Instead of flustering, Miss Anne gracefully turned the incident into a teachable moment, emphasizing how friendly the rabbits were being. Embracing spontaneity can turn unexpected challenges into delightful experiences.     BECOMING AN AUTHOR &#8211; AT 91 YEARS YOUNG! Miss Anne shares the inspiration behind her new book, &#8220;I Am a Big Brother with a Superpower.&#8221; Drawing from her own experiences as a parent, she recognized the shock and confusion older siblings often feel when a new baby arrives. She wanted to create a story that would help both the older and younger children navigate this significant life change. Miss Anne emphasizes that understanding these emotions is crucial for kids, as welcoming a new sibling can be a big adjustment. The book, complemented by beautiful illustrations, aims to ease that transition for families. A thoughtful story can make a world of difference in helping children embrace new family dynamics.   COLLABORATING WITH ILLUSTRATOR KAREN ARGUE Miss Anne shares her delightful experience collaborating with illustrator Karen Argue for her book, &#8220;I Am a Big Brother with a Superpower.&#8221; Impressed by Karen&#8217;s vibrant use of color and the fact that she lives nearby in Okotoks, Miss Anne felt an instant connection when they met. Despite being legally blind, Karen’s ability to create stunning illustrations made a significant impact on the project. Miss Anne highlights how smoothly they worked together, noting that Karen embraced every suggestion with grace and skill, contributing equally to the book&#8217;s success. Their collaboration turned out to be a true partnership, blending words and art seamlessly. A great collaboration can elevate a project, showing that teamwork and understanding can lead to beautiful results.   THE JOURNEY OF WRITING A BOOK Miss Anne candidly shares the challenges of crafting a children’s book, where every word matters. With the help of Noreen Music, of Organize My Space Calgary, who guided her in organizing her thoughts and sequencing the pages, Miss Anne found excitement in the creative process. After reading the draft to her granddaughter and her kids, she received valuable feedback that prompted her to lighten the tone, acknowledging the complex emotions involved in welcoming a new sibling. She emphasizes the importance of authenticity in storytelling, hoping her book will help children navigate their feelings while embracing their new roles. Honest feedback and a willingness to adapt can transform a story and make it resonate more deeply with its audience.   CHOOSING JOY AND FUN “Life is really so precious, and we&#8217;re always in a position of choosing. Choice in life is there all the time, and I choose to have fun with it!”  Miss Anne shares her inspiring outlook on life, highlighting the power of choice and the pursuit of fun. She believes that each day brings opportunities to decide how we engage with the world around us. Recently, she tried to make Halloween plans with a 93-year-old friend, suggesting they go out without costumes, just bringing pillowcases for treats. Although her friend decided against the idea this year, Miss Anne’s adventurous spirit remains undeterred as she looks forward to future opportunities to connect and enjoy life. Her attitude underscores the belief that it’s never too late to seek joy and share experiences. Life is filled with choices, and choosing joy can lead to meaningful moments, no matter your age.    THE MAGIC OF STORYTELLING Miss Anne reflects on how her perspective on reading and learning has transformed over the years, especially as a mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother. She emphasizes that, despite the changing world, the enchanting qualities of children &#8211; filled with curiosity and honesty &#8211; remain timeless. As a dedicated volunteer “story lady,” she delights in sharing stories with children, cherishing the moment when they realize the adventures they&#8217;ve imagined can be found in books. Her passion for fostering a love of reading is evident in her joyful interactions, like the sparkly dragon tales she shares with her great-granddaughter. For Miss Anne, storytelling is not just about words; it&#8217;s about building connections and igniting a lifelong appreciation for literature. Embrace storytelling to nurture joy and connection across generations.   ADVICE FOR ASPIRING AUTHORS AND EDUCATORS “Try new things because it can open up a new door. If you hesitate and don&#8217;t even try, that&#8217;s a mistake.” Writing and publishing your first book at the age of 91 is nothing short of inspiring. So what advice does Miss Anne have for aspiring authors or educators? Miss Anne encourages aspiring writers and educators to simply take the plunge: &#8220;Just do it!&#8221; She emphasizes that trying new things can lead to unexpected opportunities, while hesitating can hold you back from pursuing your passions. Looking ahead, Miss Anne shares her excitement about writing her memoir and exploring themes of empathy in a new children’s book. She believes that fostering empathy is crucial for young readers, reminding us all of the importance of understanding others’ feelings. Don’t hesitate—embrace your creativity and take that first step toward your dreams!   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? Learn more about computers and technology and being more organized and focused What is a book, podcast, movie or TV show that you have learned from recently? YouTube videos such as ones by author Yuval Harari who has written: NEXUS: A Brief History of Information Networks from the Stone Age to AI Unstoppable Us (A children’s book series about the history of people) If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? And why Everybody because there is always a story there   MISS ANNE’S WORDS OF WISDOM ​​Miss Anne shares a timeless piece of wisdom rooted in Buddhist teachings: “Enjoy what there is to enjoy. Don’t suffer what there is to suffer, because you have that choice every second.” This profound message, inspired by Nichiren Daishonin, underscores the power of perspective in navigating life’s ups and downs. By choosing joy and accepting challenges without unnecessary suffering, we can transform our teaching, learning, and daily experiences into more fulfilling ones. Remember, even on tough days, gratitude for what we do have can be our greatest strength. Life is full of choices &#8211; embrace joy and face hardships with grace. &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co. 

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I am joined by Monika Scott and Robyn Mair, co-founders of Mint Cleaning Products.  I first learned about Mint Cleaning Products when I was at a local coffee shop and community hub &#8211; called Social Grounds &#8211; in the community of Oakridge in Calgary, Alberta. Social Grounds also sells snacks and ice cream, hosts art classes and fitness classes, and sells products made by local and Canadian small businesses.  Long story short &#8211; one of the friends that I was attending the fitness class with was raving about these Mint Cleaning Products &#8211; how awesome they were and how good they smelled! I got curious and looked into the brand and the story behind it and low and behold I learned about Monika and Robyn and their incredible (and inspiring) story.  Monika and Robyn, the founders of Mint Cleaning Products, met in 2016 through a local mom group. The pair bonded immediately and even decided to start a cleaning business together the next day. What began as a small cleaning service in Ucluelet, BC, quickly grew into an overnight success. However, after suffering the side effects of using harsh chemical cleaners every day, they began to experiment and create their own eco-friendly, plant-based, non-toxic products. Today, Mint Cleaning Products is known across Canada for its innovative and effective solutions, available in over 200 retail stores and refilleries. With a commitment to quality, environmental responsibility, and a personal touch, Monika and Robyn have turned Mint into a trusted brand that brings green cleaning to every home. Listen in as we talk about: 03:07 The birth of a friendship and business 04:24 Business challenges and innovation 07:23 Entrepreneurial backgrounds 10:20 Key lessons in growing a business 15:30 Exciting experiences and accolades &#8211; The Jilly Box, Dragon’s Den and more! 16:58 The importance of community 19:30 Behind the scenes of Dragon’s Den 25:35 Harnessing the opportunity of social media 28:40 Building a community through education 32:29 The juggle of business and motherhood 35:47 Nurturing a strong partnership 38:30 Giving back to the community 40:35 What’s next for Mint Cleaning Products! 43:00 Robyn and Monika’s favorite teachers 44:35 What Robyn and Monika are most proud of  45:59 Robyn and Monika’s words of wisdom   Learn more about Monika and Robyn and Mint Cleaning Products: Website: https://mintcleaningproducts.com/ Instagram: @mintcleaning_ YouTube: Mint Cleaning Products TikTok: @mintcleaning_ LinkedIn: Robyn Mair Mint Cleaning Products Facebook: Mint Cleaning Products Resources: Free Cleaning Checklists and Guides Book: Swap It for Mint &#8211; An Eco-Friendly Guide to a Clean Home Guide: Guest Turnover Cleaning Guide Mint Retail Store: Unit 3 #1950 Peninsula Rd, Ucluelet B.C. 1-250-726-6468 Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    KEY LESSONS IN GROWING A BUSINESS Monika and Robyn share invaluable insights from their entrepreneurial journey, highlighting the power of adaptability. They discuss the necessity of pivoting in response to unexpected challenges, like the pandemic, and how learning through trial and error has shaped their business. The duo emphasizes the importance of cultivating a positive work culture and engaging authentically with their community, even transforming setbacks &#8211; like the wrong sized packaging &#8211; into opportunities &#8211; like giving back to a local charity. Their story illustrates that mistakes can foster growth and connection, making the business journey both rewarding and enjoyable. Embrace your missteps as stepping stones to success, and always keep a sense of humor along the way!   THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY Monika and Robyn emphasize the profound impact of community in their entrepreneurial journey. They believe that in today’s market, especially with the rise of social media, the story behind a brand is what truly resonates with people. As they point out, consumers can find eco-friendly cleaning products anywhere, but it’s the authentic connections and shared experiences that draw them in. They encourage new business owners to embrace social media as a powerful, free tool for marketing and community building, no matter how small their initial steps might be. Building genuine relationships with your community is essential; it’s the heart of any successful business!   HARNESSING THE OPPORTUNITY OF SOCIAL MEDIA Monika and Robyn dive into the crucial role of social media in growing their brand. They treat social media like a job, engaging with every comment and DM across platforms like Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. Monika notes that 90% of their sales come from Instagram, highlighting the effectiveness of organic reach and community-building over traditional advertising. They encourage new businesses to embrace social media, not just for promotion, but to connect authentically with their audience. Embrace social media as a powerful tool for connection and creativity &#8211; your community is waiting!   BUILDING A COMMUNITY THROUGH EDUCATION &#8220;Engaging our community with valuable content creates stronger connections.&#8221; ~ Monika Scott Robyn and Monika passionately discuss the importance of education in their business model, emphasizing that everyone has something valuable to teach. They encourage small business owners to think creatively about how they can offer educational content instead of just pushing products or services. This approach not only provides value but also fosters a deeper connection with their audience. With resources like cleaning guides and DIY recipes, they stand out by equipping customers with knowledge that goes beyond their products. Their genuine desire to help others shines through, making their community feel supported and informed. Always offer value and share your knowledge; it builds trust and strengthens your community!   THE JUGGLE OF BUSINESS AND MOTHERHOOD Robyn and Monika share their candid take on balancing the demands of motherhood with running a business, emphasizing that “balance” often feels like just another pressure we put on ourselves. They advocate for setting boundaries &#8211; like not checking emails after a certain time &#8211; and highlight the importance of having a supportive partner and team. Acknowledging that guilt is a common feeling, they encourage others to prioritize quality time with their children over quantity, reminding us that engaged moments create lasting memories. Their advice centers on creating systems, setting mini-goals, and practicing self-kindness, reinforcing that no one has it all figured out. Focus on quality time and set small goals; we’re all just trying our best!   NURTURING A STRONG PARTNERSHIP Robyn and Monika discuss the keys to their successful partnership as co-founders, highlighting how their complementary strengths allow them to thrive in their respective roles. They emphasize the importance of open communication and trust, akin to nurturing a marriage, where understanding each other&#8217;s limits and addressing any tensions is crucial. The duo also shares how their friendship serves as a strong foundation, allowing them to navigate challenges together. By recognizing their differences and appreciating what each brings to the table, they&#8217;ve built a dynamic that not only supports their business but also deepens their bond. Strong partnerships thrive on trust, communication, and celebrating each other&#8217;s strengths!   GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY Monika and Robyn share their deep commitment to giving back to the community, highlighting initiatives like supporting their local food bank and organizations such as Mamas for Mamas as well as the relief efforts for the Ukrainian humanitarian crisis through the Red Cross. They believe in the principle of karma, emphasizing that what goes around comes around, and view their philanthropic efforts as a natural extension of their values. They acknowledge the importance of balance in their giving but are united in their belief that generosity is essential to their mission. Giving back enriches both the community and the giver!   WORDS OF WISDOM Robyn and Monika share their wisdom on navigating life and business with a light-hearted spirit. Robyn emphasizes the importance of finding joy and humor, even during tough times, reminding us that gratitude can help put things in perspective. Monika shares two key business philosophies: always take the meeting &#8211; because unexpected opportunities can arise &#8211; and don’t wait for perfection to launch your ideas. They encourage listeners to embrace imperfections and trust their instincts, urging that sometimes the best path forward is simply to start. Don’t wait for perfection; embrace the journey and take the leap! &#8212;&#8212;&#8212; Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co. 

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I am joined by Jamie McInnis and Teresa Bent to discuss their roles and the exciting innovation and work happening in the Applied Research and Innovation Services (ARIS) Hub at SAIT, the Southern Institute of Technology, in Calgary, Alberta.  Jamie McInnis, the Director of the ARIS Hub at SAIT, has 20 years experience managing and leading research teams in an entrepreneurial, post-secondary environment. She demonstrates excellence in overseeing stakeholder relations between government, industry, Indigenous and post-secondary partners to facilitate the strategic execution and management of fundamental and applied industry-driven research projects in STEM (science, technology, engineering, and math). SAIT’s Applied Research and Innovation Services is a driving force behind Alberta’s cutting-edge research landscape. The 77,000 square foot state-of-the-art research labs and facilities are fueled by a dynamic team of 80+ research experts dedicated to providing services and solutions to organizations.  Teresa Bent, a past SAIT grad and business owner, has an extensive 34 year background in the field of education. Along with her classroom experience, she was an educational leader and coach in Literacy education, English language learning and Inclusive education. After receiving her Masters in 21st Century Educational Leadership from the University of Calgary she went on to teach at Werklund School of Education. Her other leadership experiences include 25 years both locally and nationally with a non-profit organization. Currently, she is excited to be one of two Academic Engagement Facilitators with the ARIS Hub at SAIT helping to build relationships among the research centers and academic schools and working to create a framework for student engagement in applied research.   Listen in as we talk about: 03:48 Jamie and Teresa’s stories 06:25 What is the ARIS Hub? 07:18 Applied research in the ARIS Hub 08:47 Applied research vs. fundamental research 10:50 Student engagement in applied research 18:37 Creating a framework for student engagement 23:48 The importance of mentorship 25:40 Lessons learned from student engagement 28:30 Collaborative growth in student engagement 30:48 Jamie and Teresa’s words of wisdom   Learn more about SAIT and the ARIS Hub: Websites: SAIT: https://www.sait.ca/ ARIS: https://www.sait.ca/research-and-innovation-services LinkedIn: SAIT ARIS Instagram: @sait Facebook: @sait Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    WHAT IS THE ARIS HUB?  Jamie describes the ARIS Hub at SAIT, as a dynamic applied research center that tackles real-world challenges across four key areas: green building, materials and manufacturing, drone technology, and clean energy solutions. Rather than focusing on fundamental research, the hub is all about creating novel, industry-driven solutions with quick turnaround times. They even engage in social innovation projects, like ensuring medical supplies reach remote communities. By addressing pressing needs and pushing the envelope on sustainability, the ARIS hub is paving the way for a greener and more efficient future. At the ARIS Hub, practical innovation transforms challenges into sustainable solutions that benefit everyone.   APPLIED VS. FOUNDATIONAL RESEARCH Jamie highlights the distinct yet complementary missions of fundamental research at universities and the applied focus at SAIT. While universities thrive on the curiosity-driven exploration of complex topics, SAIT takes that foundational knowledge and channels it into practical solutions for current industry and community challenges. By collaborating closely with partners to identify pressing issues &#8211; what’s keeping them up at night &#8211; SAIT is able to deliver rapid results through shorter research timelines, often culminating in pilot-tested, commercialized products. This hands-on approach not only solves immediate problems but also equips participants with the skills they need to thrive in their roles, fostering a workforce that is ready to innovate and adapt. Curiosity fuels discovery, but collaboration turns knowledge into impactful solutions.   STUDENT ENGAGEMENT IN APPLIED RESEARCH “It’s not students OR research. It’s students AND research.” ~ Jamie McInnis Student engagement plays a vital role in applied research in the ARIS Hub at SAIT. Teresa emphasizes the importance of connecting academic learning with real-world projects, allowing students to take part in capstone projects, practicums, and hands-on experiences that enhance their education. Jamie stresses that active participation by students not only enriches the research process but also invites diverse perspectives and creativity, leading to more innovative solutions. By bridging classroom knowledge with industry practice, students are encouraged to envision broader career possibilities, from entrepreneurship to scientific research, ultimately creating a dynamic feedback loop that benefits everyone involved. Engaging students in real-world research opens doors to creativity, innovation, and a world of opportunities.   CREATING A FRAMEWORK FOR STUDENT ENGAGEMENT It has been an exciting and insightful journey developing a comprehensive framework for student engagement in applied research at SAIT. Jamie highlights the importance of creating meaningful experiences for students, moving beyond simple tasks like “washing beakers.” The aim is to ensure that every student, regardless of their entry point, understands how their contributions fit into the larger picture of research and education. Teresa recounts our exciting process of collaborating with various stakeholders, fueled by countless coffee-fueled conversations, to design a framework that encompasses diverse opportunities for student involvement. Ultimately, at the heart of all of our efforts lies the value of relationships and mentorship, which enrich the students&#8217; research experiences. A well-structured framework transforms student involvement into meaningful, enriching experiences through collaboration and mentorship.   THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTORSHIP “Mentorship is a reciprocal relationship. Everyone is contributing to everyone&#8217;s experience and it can be powerful and life altering.” ~ Teresa Bent Teresa emphasizes the significance of mentorship and relationships in engaging students in applied research. She challenges the common perception that mentorship is solely a one-way street, highlighting its reciprocal nature where both mentors and mentees learn and grow together. This mutual exchange can be transformative, creating powerful, life-altering experiences for all involved. Recognizing the need for effective mentorship, Teresa discusses the importance of a commitment to developing structured training programs for mentors to enhance their skills and ensure that the knowledge and support can be passed down. By fostering a culture of mentorship that replicates itself, the aim is to enrich student experiences and expand the capabilities within each research center. Effective mentorship thrives on mutual growth, creating enriching experiences that benefit both students and mentors alike.   LESSONS LEARNED FROM STUDENT ENGAGEMENT A key takeaway about student engagement in applied research: it must be meaningful from the student&#8217;s perspective. Jamie emphasizes that instead of imposing experiences on students, the focus should be on understanding their interests and needs, making the framework truly student-centered. Both Teresa and Jamie stress the importance of mentorship as a sustainable cycle of learning and teaching, where each participant enriches the experience of others. They also note that investing time in planning and intentional mentorship is crucial for successful student involvement. The ARIS Hub Student Engagement Framework is a living document, open to feedback and continuous improvement, demonstrating a commitment to enhancing student engagement at the ARIS Hub. Meaningful student engagement thrives when students are at the center, fostering a culture of mutual learning and growth.   COLLABORATIVE GROWTH IN ENGAGEMENT When it comes to enhancing student engagement in applied research, Jamie encourages institutions to avoid reinventing the wheel and to tap into existing expertise, suggesting a casual coffee chat to share insights and experiences. Teresa adds that while it&#8217;s essential to learn from others, each institution must take the time to understand its unique community and stakeholders, ensuring that any framework developed is tailored to their specific needs. It is important to ensure that existing ideas fit the local context rather than forcing a one-size-fits-all solution. Embrace collaboration and community understanding to create tailored, impactful student engagement strategies. &#8212;&#8212;&#8212; Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co. 

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Yasmin Khan, founder and principal consultant of Yasmin Khan Consulting Services. Yasmin discusses her journey from a career civil servant in various levels of government to becoming an entrepreneur. She shares insights about her passion for libraries and knowledge management, the influence of COVID-19 on her career decisions, and her deep interest in emerging technologies such as AI. Yasmin emphasizes the importance of experiential learning, critical thinking, and staying curious. She also reflects on her childhood experiences in libraries and the impact of teachers, including her brother, on her learning journey. I met Yasmin when we were both participant’s in The Forum’s E-Series Program &#8211; an intensive online education program in business and entrepreneurship. The Forum is a national charity that helps self-identifying women, non-binary &#38; trans-femme entrepreneurs activate, access, and grow the wisdom, financial, and community capital that is needed to achieve and sustain each individual’s vision of success. She and I were in a number of breakout groups together and I was inspired by her positive energy, drive, and curiosity.  Yasmin is the Founder and Principal Consultant of Yasmin Khan Consulting Services which delivers research and strategic planning to provide the value of insight and knowledge for organizations to reposition themselves competitively in a continuously changing economic and market landscape.  She is a seasoned expert in information strategy with over two decades of experience in library science and knowledge management. Yasmin isn&#8217;t your average professional. She&#8217;s navigated through various levels of government, from municipal to provincial, skillfully orchestrating two libraries and information centers along the way. Yasmin&#8217;s influence stretches beyond the bureaucratic sphere through her adept management of large-scale projects and transformative change initiatives. Whether it&#8217;s implementing innovative service models or leading complex government procurement processes, her track record speaks volumes. Yasmin&#8217;s passion doesn&#8217;t stop at project management. She thrives on the cutting edge, bridging the gap between technology and client needs. Acting as a liaison between software vendors and her employers, Yasmin leverages technology to streamline workflows and deliver maximum value to her clients. Beyond her professional endeavours, Yasmin is deeply passionate about emerging technologies, particularly AI. She&#8217;s also committed to promoting diversity and women&#8217;s entrepreneurship, actively participating in initiatives like The Forum to empower women in business.  Yasmin has a Bachelor’s of Arts with Honours in English and a Master’s of Information Studies with a specialization in Library Science both from the University of Toronto. She also has a Master’s of Science in Information and Knowledge Strategy from Columbia University. In her spare time, Yasmin enjoys traveling, taking art classes, being a voracious reader, and being curious about anything and everything. Listen in as we talk about: 04:36: Yasmin’s story 08:30: Embracing life’s journey 09:50 Teaching and learning in entrepreneurship 13:53 Yasmin&#8217;s relationship with libraries 18:32 The evolving role of libraries 21:43 Artificial intelligence in education 26:02 The future of learning 26:55 The power of experiential learning 32:23 The heart of learning 38:03 Yasmin’s future learning aspirations 42:01 Yasmin’s words of wisdom   Connect with Yasmin: Website: https://www.yasminkhanconsulting.com/ Instagram: @yasmin.maven Facebook: @yasmin.maven LinkedIn: Yasmin Khan Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  EMBRACING LIFE’S JOURNEY Yasmin opens up about how facing illness in loved ones has reshaped her perspective on life, prompting her to pursue her passions more boldly. She reflects on the realization that life is short and emphasizes the importance of taking action instead of merely dreaming. Yasmin candidly discusses the challenges of balancing family responsibilities with her desire for flexibility, acknowledging the fears and risks that come with stepping into entrepreneurship. Her journey is not just about business; it&#8217;s about forging connections and creating a fulfilling life that aligns with her true self. Don’t wait for the perfect moment &#8211; embrace the journey and make your passions a priority today.   THE EVOLVING ROLE OF LIBRARIES Yasmin redefines the role of libraries as vital innovation hubs rather than mere repositories of information. She highlights how these spaces foster community connections through programs like book clubs and maker spaces, allowing people to come together in meaningful ways. Yasmin emphasizes that libraries bridge the digital divide by providing access to technology and resources for those who may not have them at home, creating an inclusive environment where learning and creativity thrive. She believes that libraries are essential for activating information and inspiring collaboration, proving that they remain central to our communities in an increasingly digital world. Libraries are not just about books; they’re about building connections and igniting innovation.   THE FUTURE OF LEARNING “The next innovation seems to be just around the corner.” Yasmin explores the exciting landscape of emerging technologies in education, highlighting how applications like Google and Microsoft’s AI tools are transforming daily learning experiences. She delves into the potential of physical automation, noting the rise of smart appliances and wearable technology, and how these innovations could reshape society. Yasmin expresses her curiosity about the unknowns ahead, emphasizing that while we may not yet fully grasp the future&#8217;s possibilities, the next wave of innovation is just around the corner. The evolution of technology in education is fast-paced, and the future holds endless opportunities for learning and growth.   THE POWER OF EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING Yasmin advocates for experiential learning, emphasizing its vital role in education. She shares her own impactful experiences, like her capstone project at Columbia, highlighting how hands-on activities, such as practicums and field trips, foster deep engagement and understanding. Yasmin believes that learning should start with experience rather than theory, encouraging educators to flip the traditional teaching model. By immersing students in real-world situations, they not only develop essential skills like teamwork and adaptability but also cultivate a genuine curiosity about the subjects they study. Learning by doing ignites passion and enhances comprehension, making education more meaningful and relevant.   THE HEART OF LEARNING “Close the textbook for a minute and just relate to each other.” Yasmin reflects on the profound influence of her older brother as a key figure in her learning journey. His curiosity about the universe sparked meaningful conversations that shaped her understanding of the world. Yasmin emphasizes that the best teachers aren’t always in formal classrooms; they can be family members, friends, or mentors who challenge us and foster our growth. She shares memorable experiences from her education, highlighting how empathy and personal connections from teachers can transform learning into a supportive and engaging experience. Ultimately, Yasmin&#8217;s journey reminds us that education is not just about grades—it&#8217;s about the relationships and community that enrich our lives. Embrace the connections in education; they make the journey truly rewarding.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS: What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? Be a better artist What is a book, podcast, movie or TV show that you have learned from recently? Documentary TV series: 100 Foot Wave If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Elanor Roosevelt &#8212;&#8212;&#8212; Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co. 

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Jeff Humphreys, owner and founder of Shortline Creative and host of The Calgary Sessions podcast. Jeff and I met in person for the first time at The GRAND theatre in downtown Calgary in early 2024. Jeff’s company was doing some interviewing and filming for promotional material for PodSummit YYC, an upcoming podcast conference that I am so excited about taking place on September 20 and 21, 2024. More recently, Jeff has been a role model, sounding board, and mentor for me in the world of podcasting. I admire his laid-back yet professional approach, his curiosity, thoughtful questions, commitment to storytelling, and strong sense of community. Jeff Humphreys, a born and raised Calgarian, is the owner, founder, and creative storyteller with Shortline Creative, a digital marketing agency based in Calgary, Alberta. With over 20 years of experience in the digital space, Jeff has held various roles including digital and social media manager, web coordinator, web designer, and production artist. Beyond his work at Shortline Creative, Jeff hosts The Calgary Sessions, a weekly podcast about the people that shape Calgary. The podcast highlights the stories of local athletes, artists, and entrepreneurs, sharing their inspiring journeys, triumphs, and challenges, and contributions to the vibrant heart of the city. Listen in as we talk about: 03:00 Jeff’s story 04:02 Starting Shortline Creative and podcasting 10:48 Reflections on education and personal growth 16:29 The role of athletics and fitness in Jeff&#8217;s life 21:03 An “unagency” approach to digital marketing  27:20 Creating space for sharing stories 30:58 Starting a podcast &#8211; advice and insights 37:18 Challenges and realities of monetizing a podcast 38:40 The value of community in podcasting   40:39 PodSummit &#8211; connecting podcasters and building community 48:00 Lifelong lessons from family foundations 51:39 What Jeff is most proud of 52:40 Jeff answers some rapid-fire questions 55:58 Curiosity creates experiences   Connect with Jeff: Websites:  Jeff Humphreys: https://www.jeffhumphreys.ca Shortline Creative: https://www.shortlinecreative.com/ Instagram: @jeffhumphreys  LinkedIn:  Jeff Humphreys Shortline Creative Facebook: @TheJeffHumphreys Podcast: The Calgary Sessions   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    REFLECTIONS ON EDUCATION AND PERSONAL GROWTH Jeff&#8217;s journey through school was a tough one, marked by repeated struggles and a series of dropouts. Despite trying various programs at Mount Royal and facing a constant battle with disinterest and poor grades, he found solace and confidence in hockey. He did experience school success in a visual communications class, which foreshadowed his eventual career in creative work. Jeff reflects that the traditional school environment, with its rigid structure and lack of engaging subjects, never suited him. However, he&#8217;s found that exploring non-traditional learning paths and pursuing interests outside the classroom can be just as valuable. This perspective highlights the importance of finding personal learning styles and alternative routes to success. Education isn&#8217;t one-size-fits-all and curiosity and diverse experiences can lead to fulfilling careers.   AN “UNAGENCY” APPROACH TO DIGITAL MARKETING Jeff describes Shortline Creative as the &#8220;unagency&#8221; because it deliberately deviates from traditional agency norms. While conventional agencies often follow a set structure to maintain their margins and efficiency, Shortline Creative focuses on a more personalized and creative approach. They emphasize human connection and storytelling, aiming to genuinely understand and represent their clients’ unique narratives. Rather than just pushing sales or ads, they concentrate on building brand identity by showcasing the people behind the products and services. This human-centered, story-driven strategy not only sets them apart but also fosters deeper connections between brands and their audiences, creating a more engaging and authentic online presence.   CREATING SPACE FOR SHARING STORIES Starting his podcast, Jeff was pleasantly surprised by a few key insights. He discovered that high-profile guests don’t always have the most compelling stories and that willingness to open up can vary widely, regardless of fame. One standout moment for him was realizing the importance of creating a comfortable space for guests to share openly. As an introvert, Jeff has honed his listening skills, finding that genuine conversation and community building are more rewarding than he initially expected. He’s also come to appreciate the unique commitment required to sustain a podcast, recognizing that the true challenge lies in the host’s ability to facilitate engaging discussions. This journey has shown him the value of perseverance and the unexpected joy that comes from connecting with diverse individuals.   STARTING A PODCAST: ADVICE AND INSIGHTS Jeff is enthusiastic about the idea of starting a podcast, encouraging almost everyone—from individuals to businesses—to dive into it. He highlights the growing trend of branded podcasts, like Ford’s pre-launch series for the Bronco, as a powerful tool for storytelling and brand promotion. Jeff emphasizes that while creating a podcast requires courage and skill, particularly in hosting and facilitating engaging conversations, the potential benefits are significant. He acknowledges the common hesitations and advises that if the primary host struggles with conversation, finding someone who can effectively lead the show might be a better approach. Ultimately, Jeff believes that the visibility and production quality of podcasts make them an appealing and practical choice for content creation, and he&#8217;s excited to see more people exploring this medium.   THE VALUE OF COMMUNITY IN PODCASTING “If you build a community, it creates these opportunities to then leverage and turn into something you couldn&#8217;t see coming.” Tim Truax, the CEO of PodSummit, and Jeff have been exploring a “matrix model” for leveraging podcasts, discovering that the true value often lies in community and brand reputation rather than direct income. A podcast can open doors to various opportunities like merchandise sales, business introductions, and speaking engagements, all rooted in the strength of your brand and the community you build. While Jeff is not keen on traditional, repetitive sponsorships, he’s open to meaningful brand partnerships that align with his vision. It’s important to understand that monetization isn’t immediate or guaranteed; podcasts thrive on passion and commitment. The real rewards come from fostering connections and seizing secondary opportunities that arise as you grow your podcast and its community.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS: What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? How to run 35 off water skiing  What podcasts are you listening to these days? Spraymakers with Trent Finlayson GaryVee Audio Experience with Gary Vaynerchuk The Diary of a CEO with Steven Bartlett If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Lanny McDonald   CURIOSITY CREATES EXPERIENCES Curiosity isn&#8217;t just a word; it&#8217;s a gateway to diverse experiences and personal growth. Reflecting on his life, Jeff shares how curiosity has led him through various realms—from sports and nightlife to the business world and podcasting. He believes that without curiosity, he wouldn’t have explored these rich communities or discovered his passions. Jeff muses that if he had recognized his knack for visual communication earlier, he might have followed a more focused path. Today, his curiosity isn’t about the end goals but about the rich experiences it creates. As he continues to explore and trust his intuition, he finds that curiosity remains the key to discovering new opportunities and enriching his journey.   &#8212;&#8212;&#8212; Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co. 

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I’m joined by Jelena Bajic, the Dean of the Faculty of Business, Environment, Technology, and Continuing Education at NorQuest College in Edmonton, Alberta. Jelena shares her journey from Yugoslavia to South Africa, the UK, Saudi Arabia, and ultimately Canada, highlighting her passion for high employee engagement, motivation, and professional development.  Jelena discusses her belief in community-driven impact, her experience at various educational institutions, and her role at NorQuest College. She offers insights into organizational transformation, interdisciplinary learning, and the future of education. Jelena also touches on the importance of mentorship, continuous learning, and embracing change.  Jelena believes in community-driven impact that elevates individuals and the collective. She has a special interest in high employee engagement and motivation during organizational transformations. Her experiences have taught her that prioritizing staff learning and professional development always pays dividends through increased innovation, engagement and productivity, driving greater team and organizational impact. Over the past 20+ years Jelena has worked with highly skilled individuals in South Africa, the UK, Saudi Arabia and Canada in various capacities, from Energy Advisory as an Advisor at Tetra Consulting in the UK to Research Operations as the Managing Director at the Northern Alberta Institute of Technology. Today, Jelena is the Dean of the Faculty of Business, Environment, Technology and Continuing Education at NorQuest College in Edmonton, Alberta. NorQuest’s purpose &#8211; At NorQuest, we transform lives. And when we do that, we transform communities, we transform the world, we transform the future. – is so strongly aligned to Jelena’s view of the role and impact of education. As an Energy Futures Lab Fellow, Jelena continues to explore the intricate interplay between business, technology and environmental disciplines which is undeniably shaping our communities and economy today and will continue to do so into the future. Some of this work is also shaping priorities in her portfolio at NorQuest College with regard to skill and competency development for learners, as well as workforce development. Jelena is passionate about empowering others to act and engages in many working groups, events and committees. Beyond her work-related commitments, Jelena is also the President of a childcare society, a SHE Leads Mentor and an avid supporter of the Edmonton culinary and arts scenes. Jelena earned a PhD in Environmental Biology from the University of Cape Town, South Africa. She is trained in Business Management, Change Management and Strategic Communication.    Listen in as we talk about: 04:09 Jelena&#8217;s story 13:03 NorQuest College in Edmonton, Alberta #WeAreWhoWeInclude 17:49 Strategic direction and faculty development with educational change 22:35 Interdisciplinary opportunities and the future of education 24:30 Educational change and personal development 27:20 The multifaceted approach to the energy transition  31:04 Embracing diverse learning styles 33:57 Decolonizing curriculum and anti-racism efforts 35:34 The importance of curiosity and unlearning 38:09 Collaborative problem solving and diverse perspectives 40:16 Audiobooks: A new way to read 42:53 Hockey and community spirit 46:03 Jelena’s favourite teacher 48:09 Jelena’s pride in teamwork and engaging with mentors 51:35 Jelena’s words of wisdom   Connect with Jelena: LinkedIn: Jelena Bajic   Learn more about NorQuest College: Website: https://www.norquest.ca/ LinkedIn: NorQuest College Instagram: @norquestcollege Facebook: @NorQuestCollege YouTube: @NorQuestCollegeVideos Twitter: @NorQuest    Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.    EDUCATIONAL CHANGE AND PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT Jelena is deeply committed to her own learning and development journey, which she openly shares with her team and anyone willing to listen. In an environment of constant change and evolution, she emphasizes the importance of establishing anchors such as a strategic faculty document that guides without prescribing. This approach enables individuals to align their personal learning and development plans with broader institutional goals. Whether it&#8217;s innovating new programs, refining curricula, or excelling as a mentor, Jelena encourages exploring one&#8217;s strengths and potential contributions within the educational landscape.   EMBRACING DIVERSE LEARNING STYLES How do we shift and change our approach with students to align with the evolving needs of our world? Embracing diverse learning styles is crucial. Recognizing that people learn in different ways is becoming more accepted in post-secondary education. The traditional methods of teaching and learning are already shifting, with a growing focus on open educational resources (OER) to make education more accessible and affordable. This movement aims to reduce the financial burden of expensive textbooks, highlighting the importance of accessible education for all. The shift towards authentic assessments is another significant change. We are moving away from traditional assessments that focus on rote memorization, towards evaluating how students can apply the skills and knowledge they have gained in the classroom. This means transitioning from transactional classroom engagement to more integrated, applied learning. Applied learning is now an interdisciplinary space where students from different specializations, such as HR, finance, and management, can collaborate on assessments that test their practical skills. These shifts are essential and reflect the evolving landscape of education.   DECOLONIZING CURRICULUM AND ANTI-RACISM EFFORTS There&#8217;s a lot of conversation, work, and action around decolonizing curriculum. This process involves unlearning certain things before learning new ones, which is a complex endeavor. At NorQuest, we have a dedicated team that provides guidance and support to our instructors, helping them navigate this long journey. Having access to resources and support has been invaluable in this effort. Similarly, anti-racism work is a priority at our college. Addressing biases and challenging our assumptions is crucial. This process involves holding a mirror up to ourselves, both individually and collectively, to uncover and address layers of bias we might not have been aware of. It&#8217;s unsettling but necessary, as it reveals areas where we can grow and change. Personally, I&#8217;ve realized that despite thinking I was open-minded, I still had unconscious biases that need to be addressed. This journey is about shifting our mindsets to create a more inclusive and equitable environment.   THE IMPORTANCE OF CURIOSITY AND UNLEARNING “Now that we know a bit better or we have new information, what are we going to do with that?” Jelena emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing biases in educational settings. She believes that educators must model the process of unlearning and stay curious, acknowledging that their perspectives might be limited. This continuous curiosity and reflection are crucial for creating a more inclusive and comprehensive understanding of various narratives. She notes that this approach is essential in all communities, regardless of location, and should be a priority for educational institutions to set a positive direction for everyone involved.   COLLABORATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING AND DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES Jelena shares her personal experience with the phrase, &#8220;You don&#8217;t know what you don&#8217;t know&#8221; which she finds frustrating because it is universally true. Instead, she focuses on what can be done with new information and emphasizes the importance of collaborative problem-solving. She highlights the value of diverse perspectives and the power of working together to address issues. Jelena believes that moving away from the default acceptance of ignorance towards proactive engagement with new knowledge is key to making meaningful progress.

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I’m joined by Mariya Stokes, a talented and community-focused country music artist from Stavely, Alberta. Mariya shares her journey from growing up in a musical family to becoming Country Music Alberta&#8217;s two-time Horizon Female Artist of the Year. She discusses her songwriting process, the importance of community support, and the mentors who have influenced her career. Mariya also talks about the challenges and joys of being an independent artist, her passion for vintage fashion, and the excitement surrounding the release of her debut full-length album.  I am above and beyond thrilled to have Mariya Stokes joining me as my guest on my 100th PODCAST EPISODE! Mariya and I connected at a Mamas for Mamas Calgary event back in September of 2022 where I had the opportunity to see her perform and to sit beside her at dinner and have an amazing conversation. Mariya is not only incredibly talented but also heart-centred in her approach to music and in her connections and interactions with her community.  If Kacey Musgraves and Lake Street Dive had a country-soul love child, the result would be Mariya Stokes. Known for her distinct retro style and quirky sense of humor, Country Music Alberta&#8217;s two-time Horizon Female Artist of the Year is on the cusp of releasing her debut full-length album. Her single, &#8220;You Want Me,&#8221; dropped in February 2024 and her single “One of Em&#8221;, was released in May 2024! Growing up in Stavely, Alberta, Mariya’s music reflects her roots: honest country lyrics seamlessly blended with pop-influenced melodies. Additionally, Mariya was a top-eight semifinalist in SiriusXMs Top of the Country in partnership with the Canadian Country Music Association in 2024. And &#8211; she is looking forward to performing on the main stage this summer at Country Thunder Alberta!   Listen in as we talk about: 03:00 Mariya’s story 05:16 Family and musical influences 07:03 Mariya’s songwriting process 09:19 The power of collaboration 12:09 Advice for aspiring musicians 14:14 Navigating the business of music 17:12 Mariya’s “pinch me” moments 20:48 Mariya’s upcoming projects and shows 23:07 Giving back to the community 24:54 Songwriting as personal expression 29:26 Mariya’s personal style and vintage fashion 32:33 The role of personal style in branding 37:28 Music and mentorship 42:30 What Mariya is most proud of 43:56 Mariya answers some rapid-fire questions 46:39 Mariya’s final thoughts and words of wisdom   Connect with Mariya: Website: https://www.mariyastokes.com/ Instagram: @mariyastokes  Facebook: @mariyastokes  TikTok: @mariyastokes    Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.    FAMILY AND MUSICAL INFLUENCES Mariya shares that music was a significant part of her upbringing, heavily influenced by her family&#8217;s musical background. Her father was a drummer and singer in a family band, and her grandfather was a skilled keyboard player. On the other side of her family, her grandfather played bass in a rock band in the 60s and even opened for the Beach Boys. Growing up surrounded by music, Mariya found it accessible and was encouraged by her community in Stavely, where many local musicians supported her journey, including neighbors who taught her guitar and provided a welcoming space to practice and grow.   <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://tianafech.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/e041_Quote_Mariya-300x300.png" alt="“There are no bad ideas. There just might be ideas that I don't necessarily chase. Or - it might not be the right idea for me but it could be right for somebody else.” ~ Mariya Stokes " width="500" height="500" /> MARIYA’S SONGWRITING PROCESS “There are no bad ideas. There just might be ideas that I don&#8217;t necessarily chase. Or &#8211; it might not be the right idea for me but it could be right for somebody else.”  Regarding her songwriting process, Mariya explains that creativity is like a faucet, where the flow of ideas improves with continuous effort. She maintains a &#8220;hook book,&#8221; recording phrases, melodies, or conversations that inspire her, either in her phone&#8217;s voice memos or notes app. Although many of these ideas may not develop into full songs, they serve as a valuable starting point for writing. This preparation allows her to approach solo songwriting or collaborations with a clear sense of direction. Mariya emphasizes the importance of capturing and organizing ideas to make the creative process more efficient and productive.  When collaborating and co-writing songs, sometimes Mariya will have an idea that she won’t think has anything in it but she will throw it out to the room just in case. Sometimes, somebody in the room will grab it and have something more to say about it. This can lead to a song or idea coming to life that wouldn’t have otherwise without that other person or collaborator.   LEARNING AND CURIOSITY “There’s always more to explore. That’s part of the joy.” For Mariya, the world of music involves a journey of ongoing learning. For her, the first step was discovering her own voice and message, honing her craft until she could articulate it just right. She emphasizes the importance of immersing oneself in the community, surrounding yourself with peers who are also navigating the music landscape. Collaboration becomes not just a tool for growth but a lifeline of support. Yet, it&#8217;s not just about the art; understanding the business side is equally crucial. Mariya recalls her early shock at the breadth of knowledge required, from branding to royalties. It has been a continual process of education and adaptation. For her, curiosity isn&#8217;t just a trait; it&#8217;s a cornerstone of her musical journey, propelling her forward into uncharted territories of creativity and knowledge, reminding her that there&#8217;s always more to explore, always more to learn.   SONGWRITING AS PERSONAL EXPRESSION Mariya explains that songwriting is her primary form of expression, helping her process and externalize her emotions. She emphasizes the therapeutic nature of music, whether pursued as a career or as a personal joy. Songwriting can be a way for people to articulate their feelings and put them into words, thus unburdening themselves emotionally. Mariya finds that songwriting offers a unique way for individuals to connect with and express their innermost thoughts. She further highlights that songs often resonate more deeply than spoken words. Sharing the example of Tenille Townes&#8217; &#8220;Somebody&#8217;s Daughter,&#8221; Mariya illustrates how a song can reveal the humanity and depth of a story in a way that spoken words might not. She believes that the emotional impact of music can evoke powerful feelings, making listeners connect on a deeper level. This emotional resonance, she notes, is something that can&#8217;t be replicated by merely reading the lyrics out loud.   GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY Mariya explains that her dedication to community involvement stems from her upbringing in a small town where community support was a norm. Fundraisers and collective efforts to help families in need were common, instilling in her the belief that you get out of a community what you put into it. If you want support when you are down, then you need to be supporting others when they are down too.  Mariya highlights her upcoming involvement in the &#8220;Ride to Remember&#8221; fundraiser, an annual event supporting the Alzheimer Calgary, hosted by Devin Cooper. This event, now in its fifth year, has grown significantly, with a goal to raise $50,000 this year. Mariya has performed at the fundraiser every year, showcasing her commitment to community support. Mariya’s engagement in community activities, including being an artist in residence at the Women&#8217;s Centre of Calgary and teaching songwriting workshops with Girls Lead YYC. She has also done work with youth with the Calgary Board of Education, BAM! Camp Calgary, and the Calgary Drop-In Centre with their Shelter From the Storm program.    MUSIC AND MENTORSHIP Mariya holds Brian Farrell, her vocal and performance coach, in high regard, crediting him as a mentor from her early years into the present. Commuting to Bearspaw every two weeks for lessons in her tiny Sunfire, Mariya embarked on what she describes as a grand adventure, despite the nerve-wracking drive. Brian&#8217;s teaching style left a lasting impact on Mariya, emphasizing the importance of inviting audiences in rather than merely projecting energy outward on stage. His guidance extends beyond performance techniques; whenever Mariya feels unsteady, Brian reminds her to stay true to herself, encouraging her to find her own space amidst life&#8217;s chaos. Brian&#8217;s approach to teaching went beyond traditional vocal coaching, offering a performance workshop called Turntable Creative where students of all ages could showcase their skills in front of mentors and peers. This unique opportunity provided a supportive environment for artists to confront their fears and receive constructive criticism while honing their craft. For Mariya, this experience underscored the importance of mastering not only solitary practice but also the art of performing, a vital lesson that has reverberated throughout her journey as an artist.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do?  Sewing If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Carolyn Dawn Johnson and Chappel Roan

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, Jolie Viguers, a seasoned CPA and financial coach, joins me to discuss a range of topics including money, finances, financial coaching, community, curiosity, and values.  Jolie shares her journey from becoming an accountant to founding Well Bean Coaching, her own financial coaching business, emphasizing the importance of understanding one&#8217;s money stories and deep values. She talks about her approach to financial coaching, which focuses on empowering clients by aligning their financial plans with their life&#8217;s goals and values. Jolie also delves into the nuances between financial coaching and financial advising, her target clientele, and how she tailors her coaching techniques to individual needs. Additionally, Jolie discusses her popular online community, the Canadian Ladies Money Club, and shares insights on addressing common financial questions like whether to pay off debt or invest. Throughout the conversation, Jolie emphasizes the importance of continuous learning, compassionate curiosity, and maintaining alignment with personal values. Jolie is a CPA and Financial Coach with a passion to make her clients more confident with their money.  She works with women to understand their money stories and deep values, in order to achieve alignment with their spending and investing. Resolving the stress and frustration of debt and cash flow struggles and transforming that into sustainable plans makes for a big impact!  Jolie has worked as an accountant for 20+ years, and is active in the Financial Independence community. She is also the leader at &#8220;Canadian Ladies Money Club&#8221; on Facebook, with a mission to normalize the conversations about money.   Listen in as we talk about: 02:57 Becoming a financial coach 05:24 The role of a financial coach 08:54 Who benefits from financial coaching? 11:20 Personalizing financial coaching: drifters vs. strugglers 13:40 The path to financial independence 18:35 Teaching and learning as a financial coach 23:14 The emotional aspect of financial coaching 27:58 Couples and money: navigating different values 30:13 The Canadian Ladies Money Club 32:56 Celebrating financial wins in a supportive community 34:05 The power of community in financial learning 37:29 Navigating the debate: paying off debt vs. investing 43:45 Influential educators and the Trauma of Money course 48:04 Staying true to values in financial decisions 52:45 Jolie answers some rapid-fire questions 56:00 Jolie’s words of wisdom    Connect with Jolie: Website: https://www.wellbeancoaching.com/ Instagram: @wellbeancoaching Facebook: @wellbeancoaching Facebook Group: Canadian Ladies Money Club   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.    PERSONALIZING FINANCIAL COACHING: DRIFTERS VS. STRUGGLERS Jolie’s financial coaching methodology centers around empowering her clients by guiding them to articulate their life aspirations and then strategically aligning their finances to achieve those objectives. This comprehensive approach encompasses not only educating clients on fundamental financial concepts such as math, account management, investments, budgets, and compound interest but also delving into the psychological aspects and mindset associated with money matters. Prior to diving into numerical analyses, Jolie dedicates significant time to address her clients’ money mindset and narratives. It’s important to note that Jolie’s services do not involve the sale of insurance or investment products; her primary objective is to equip her clients with the skills and confidence to manage their finances autonomously. Jolie’s clientele presents a diverse array of challenges. Some are characterized as ‘drifters’, individuals who, although not facing financial hardship, lack a clear roadmap for their financial future. These clients seek clarity on major life goals, such as retirement planning, short-term lifestyle enhancements, and strategic investment approaches to support their objectives. On the other hand, Jolie also works with clients she refers to as “strugglers”. These individuals may grapple with insufficient income, difficulty managing expenses, or significant debt burdens. In such cases, Jolie’s focus shifts towards debt reduction strategies and restructuring cash flow management to foster financial stability and resilience.   <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://tianafech.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/WellBeanCoaching-4-240x300.jpg" alt="Jolie Viguers is a CPA and the Founder of and Financial Coach with Well Bean Coaching. " width="400" height="500" />   WHAT IS FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE Jolie explains how financial independence (FI) stems from the concept of FIRE, which stands for Financial Independence, Retire Early. While retirement and its timing are subjective, FI specifically means not relying on income from work but rather having sufficient investments to support oneself indefinitely. This is often visualized as having a &#8220;million-dollar account,&#8221; based on the 4% Rule from the Trinity Study, which suggests living off 4% of one&#8217;s investments annually. For example, a million dollars would provide $40,000 per year, so if you need $40,000 to live, you&#8217;d aim for a million dollars in investments. Achieving financial independence means reaching a point where work becomes optional. This goal can vary depending on additional income sources like rental properties, pensions, or government benefits. Her work with clients focuses on helping them achieve this state of financial independence, enabling them to choose whether to work based on preference rather than necessity. This journey encourages alignment with personal goals and values, ultimately offering more options and freedom. For instance, with sufficient savings, one could opt for part-time or seasonal work, enhancing life satisfaction and flexibility. The key is to work towards financial independence so that working becomes a choice rather than a requirement.   THE EMOTIONAL ASPECTS OF FINANCIAL COACHING “When your student becomes the teacher, that&#8217;s the ultimate, because they are solid on the understanding.” Jolie’s approach to working with clients is one where she is rebuilding trust when it comes to money and creating opportunities for learning with compassionate curiosity. So much of the work that Jolie does with people is so personal and in depth, that they are able to move through this quite quickly. Having said that, there can still be a lot of shame, fear, and anxiety in conversations around money. Jolie supports her clients in building up their competence with money and finances so that they can ‘do the things’. By having her clients practice ‘doing the things’, they build up their confidence. Jolie loves when her clients let her know that they have taught what they have learned to someone else. The students have become the teachers.  Having an approach of compassionate curiosity, helps Jolie support her clients in the emotional aspects of financial coaching. She meets people where they are at and takes things slowly, step-by-step, and celebrates the wins, big and small, right alongside her clients.    COUPLES AND MONEY: NAVIGATING DIFFERENT VALUES “What do you value? Do you value being debt free or do you value having more in your investments?” Jolie approaches working with couples who have different values and ideas by facilitating conversations that often aren&#8217;t happening or aren&#8217;t going well. She finds that a common issue is the lack of communication or unsuccessful discussions about money. Jolie&#8217;s role involves facilitating these conversations, encouraging curiosity, and exploring each person&#8217;s perspective. Each partner may have different feelings about the same financial situation. For instance, one partner might feel accomplished with a net worth of a million dollars, while the other feels they are falling behind. This difference in perception can lead to disjointed feelings between partners. Jolie emphasizes the importance of discussing and normalizing these feelings to create a shared understanding of what success looks like for both partners. She encourages conversations about what would be considered good, what success means, and how much is enough. This process involves a lot of listening, inspiring, and compassionate curiosity. Jolie’s goal is to help couples develop a plan that aligns with their shared values and goals, fostering better communication and mutual understanding.   THE POWER OF COMMUNITY IN FINANCIAL LEARNING “The more we learn and do as part of our communities, the stronger our communities become.” Jolie highlights the special nature of community, emphasizing how it brings together people curious about the same topics, allowing them to support and learn from each other. In her community, members can lean on one another, ask questions, and celebrate their wins and progress in a safe space. She expresses pride in the growth of her community, noting that it will likely continue to expand and thrive. By the time the episode airs, she expects the community to have grown even more. Jolie mentions the recent addition of many new members and the help of a few moderators to manage the increasing activity. She values the consistent and reliable support from regular contributors who provide solid answers to questions. Additionally, Jolie allows anonymous posts, which, although challenging for building a community feel, enables more vulnerability and honesty. This anonymity encourages members to ask difficult questions without fear, fostering a welcoming environment for financial discussions.   <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://tianafech.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/WellBeanCoaching-33-300x200.jpg" alt="Jolie Viguers is a CPA and the Founder of and Financial Coach with Well Bean Coaching. " width="400" height="267" /> RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do?  The ins and outs of the new system for her business What is a book, podcast, movie, or TV show that you have enjoyed recently? Podcast: The Money Scope Podcast Podcast: I Will Teach You To Be Rich If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Her late Grandma

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, Dr. Andrew Dutcher, a renowned child and adolescent psychiatrist, keynote speaker, and author of &#8216;Big-Hearted Parenting (Even When It Seems Impossible)&#8217;, discusses his journey from speed skating to becoming a medical professional dedicated to preventing Indigenous children&#8217;s entry into the child welfare system in Canada.  Andrew shares insights from his book and his work, emphasizing the importance of building strong, healthy relationships between parents and children to foster resilience and positive growth. He offers practical advice for parents to improve communication, manage emotions, and create a nurturing home environment, highlighting the role of teaching and learning in effective parenting and mental health support. Dr. Andrew Durcher believes in keeping families together. He empowers parents by equipping them with the tools and resources to improve relationships and create a healthy home environment. Andrew is a sought-after keynote speaker, educator and storyteller. He has expanded his repertoire from writing medical histories and prescriptions to writing books. He published his first book, Big-Hearted Parenting (Even When It Seems Impossible), in 2023.  Andrew got his medical degree from Dalhousie University and received his specialized training as a child and adolescent psychiatrist through the University of Calgary. Andrew dedicates much of his time to working with Indigenous youth and children in the child welfare system in both Alberta and New Brunswick. Andrew is a Wolastoqey member of the Tobique First Nation in New Brunswick. He now calls Calgary home. Andrew has been featured as a mental health expert in several stories covered by CTV News. His mission is to prevent any more Indigenous children from being taken into the child welfare system in Canada. When he&#8217;s not working, he&#8217;s on the hunt for good eats with his wife and exploring nature and other cool places with his three kids.    Listen in as we talk about: 02:50 Becoming a child and youth psychiatrist  09:12 Teaching as a child and youth psychiatrist 11:00 The importance of having a learner’s’ mind and heart 12:26 The difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist 14:19 Big-hearted parenting 16:38 The wisdom in our yelling as parents= 19:36 How to yell less as parents 22:55 Building stronger connections with our children 27:31 How to become a big-hearted champion 28:55 Helping our children listen &#8211; a little bit better 31:30 How to best support our children 33:34 Andrew’s favourite teacher 35:31 Andrew answers some rapid-fire questions 38:12 Andrew’s words of wisdom &#8211; relationships and stories are everything   Connect with Dr. Andrew Dutcher: Website: https://drandrewdutcher.com/ Instagram: @drandrewdutcher  LinkedIn: Dr. Andrew Dutcher TikTok: @drandrewdutcher Book: Big-Hearted Parenting (Even When It Seems Impossible)   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.    THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A LEARNER’S MIND AND HEART “I need to have a learner&#8217;s mind and a learner&#8217;s heart when it comes to working with young people, because they&#8217;re the experts in themselves.” In his role as a child and youth psychiatrist, Dr. Andrew Dutcher emphasizes the significance of engaging with his young patients to comprehend the intricacies of their lives, familial dynamics, and individual traits. This personalized understanding enables him to tailor interventions that inspire positive changes and improvements. It&#8217;s a fundamental recognition that individuals seek professional help precisely because they&#8217;re facing challenges. Moreover, Dr. Andrew remains committed to continuous learning. He avidly follows the latest research, guidelines, and literature in his field. By staying abreast of evidence-based practices, he ensures that his interventions are informed by the most current knowledge, thereby optimizing outcomes for his patients.   BIG-HEARTED PARENTING “Being a big-hearted champion is that big-hearted parent who really loves and cares about their child and wants to see the best for them, but starts taking action towards the things that are moving the needle in terms of helping them.” Dr. Andrew discusses the underlying wisdom in parents yelling at their children, highlighting that it often stems from a deep emotional response driven by frustration or anger. He points out that this usually occurs when parents are trying to encourage their children to engage in beneficial activities, like turning off video games or doing chores. While yelling can sometimes reflect an emotional burden the parent is experiencing and may not always be constructive, Dr. Andrew suggests that it can also indicate a parent’s care and concern, emphasizing the importance of the intentions behind the outburst. He further elaborates on the delicate balance between conveying care and potentially harming the parent-child relationship through yelling. Dr. Andrew argues that while the immediate effectiveness of yelling might make it seem like a viable solution, the ideal approach would be to communicate the same concern and urgency without resorting to yelling. He reflects on the universal nature of such challenges among parents, acknowledging the stress these situations can provoke, and advocates for extracting the wisdom and care from these moments to improve communication without damaging relationships.   BUILDING STRONGER CONNECTIONS WITH OUR CHILDREN Dr. Andrew emphasizes the importance of coping strategies for parents aiming to reduce the frequency of yelling at their children. He highlights that emotional regulation is key, especially when emotions run high and control is lost. To address this, he suggests taking a moment to step back and allow emotions to subside—a technique referred to in mental health as &#8220;riding the wave&#8221; of emotions. Recognizing the signs that precede yelling can greatly aid in managing reactions, such as identifying high-risk situations that typically trigger outbursts. Implementing a brief pause, which he calls the &#8220;1, 2, 3 yelling break,&#8221; can help parents gain the necessary composure before engaging with their children. Further elaborating on the strategy, Dr. Andrew advises the use of specific coping skills during these breaks to facilitate calmness and ensure meaningful interaction afterwards. One effective technique he recommends is &#8216;box breathing,&#8217; which involves a rhythmic pattern of breathing in for four seconds, holding for four seconds, breathing out for four, and holding again for four. This method, along with other minor distractions like watching a video, can significantly reduce potential damage to the parent-child relationship, helping to maintain a healthier and more constructive environment at home.   HELPING OUR CHILDREN LISTEN &#8211; A LITTLE BIT BETTER Dr. Andrew suggests that one effective strategy for parents to improve their children&#8217;s listening skills is through positive reinforcement. He notes that parents often overlook or take for granted the behaviors they expect from their children, such as listening and following instructions. By actively recognizing and rewarding desired behaviors, parents can encourage their children to engage more positively. For instance, if a child turns off video games when asked, exaggerated praise for this action can reinforce the behavior, making it more likely to recur. Even if a child needs fewer reminders than usual, acknowledging their improvement with positive feedback can significantly impact their behavior. Further, Dr. Andrew advises parents to focus consistently on praising the behaviors they wish to see more frequently. This approach involves a long-term commitment to noticing and appreciating even small steps towards better listening. For example, if a child follows instructions with fewer reminders, praising this progress can motivate them to continue improving. Dr. Andrew emphasizes that this method requires close attention to detail and persistence, but by continuously supporting and celebrating their children&#8217;s successes in listening, parents can gradually foster better communication and cooperation from their children.   RELATIONSHIPS AND STORIES ARE EVERYTHING Embedded within Dr. Andrew&#8217;s First Nations heritage is a guiding principle: the profound significance of stories and relationships along life&#8217;s journey. For him, these elements are the very essence of existence. One of Dr. Andrew&#8217;s most influential mentors was his speed skating coach, a relationship that profoundly impacted his personal growth. This mentor took the time to understand Dr. Andrew&#8217;s strengths and nurtured a deep emotional connection. Together, they embarked on a journey towards Dr. Andrew&#8217;s lofty aspirations, marked by a blend of joy, hard work, and mutual respect. The coach&#8217;s approach, characterized by leveraging Dr. Andrew&#8217;s unique gifts and fostering a supportive environment, left an indelible mark. It wasn&#8217;t any single teaching moment that stood out, but rather the collective impact of their shared experiences underscored the power of emotional connection in the learning process. Reflecting on his journey, Dr. Andrew underscores the importance of emotional well-being and regulation for both teachers and learners. He emphasizes the need for individuals to be in a positive emotional space, allowing for fruitful discourse and effective learning. By honoring the significance of stories and relationships, and by nurturing emotional balance, Andrew believes we can create environments conducive to meaningful growth and mutual understanding.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? To hunt What is a book, podcast, movie, or TV show that you have enjoyed recently? The Bible If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Jesus

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, we are joined by Noreen Music, an extraordinary speaker, the author of The Unexpected Entrepreneur, and the owner and driving force behind Organize My Space Calgary.  Noreen&#8217;s passion is helping people find lasting freedom in their homes and businesses through her transformational organizing services and productivity strategies. Her mission is to support her clients in removing any barriers or blocks to create a stress-free and calm state of flow in all parts of their lives. Out of this state comes abundance, time freedom, deep satisfaction, and greater success.   Listen in as we talk about: 02:13 Has Noreen always been organized?  03:37 Becoming a professional organizer and an unexpected entrepreneur 08:57 Teaching and learning as a professional organizer 12:15 Noreen’s top productivity tips 19:39 &#8220;Where do I even start?&#8221; when it comes to organization 23:36 The “why” for being more productive and organized  29:03 Lessons learned through writing a book  32:34 How to teach kids to be more organized 35:23 Noreen’s favourite home organization products  38:46 Noreen’s favourite teacher 41:58 What Noreen is most proud of 43:35 Noreen answers some rapid-fire questions 46:48 Noreen’s words of wisdom   Connect with Noreen: Website: https://organizemyspacecalgary.com/ Instagram: @organizemyspacecalgary Facebook: @organizemyspacecalgary  LinkedIn: Noreen Music Organize My Space Calgary Book: The Unexpected Entrepreneur: Now You’re Here, Making a Difference While Making a Living   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.    NOREEN’S TOP PRODUCTIVITY TIPS “Productivity isn’t necessarily about doing more but about doing more of the right things at the right time in the right way.” Noreen emphasizes the significance of managing one&#8217;s email effectively, describing it as a top productivity tip. She likens the electronic email inbox to the old-fashioned paper inboxes, where physical mail required immediate sorting and action. By treating emails in the same manner—deciding quickly whether to respond, delegate, file, or discard—she argues that individuals can drastically reduce the clutter and inefficiency that typically bogs down their workflow. Noreen notes that this approach is crucial across all levels of professional life, where emails tend to pile up and create a drag on productivity, wasting significant amounts of time each day. Further, Noreen discusses how the overwhelming volume of emails is a common challenge, yet not a badge of honor. She stresses the importance of maintaining a manageable inbox not only for personal organization but also for maintaining one&#8217;s credibility and efficiency in the workplace. According to her, effectively managing one&#8217;s email can have a ripple effect, improving overall productivity and professional standing.   “WHERE DO I EVEN START?” WHEN IT COMES TO ORGANIZATION “Contrary to popular belief, being organized is not a personality trait and not being organized is not a personality trait.” Noreen discusses the common challenge of feeling overwhelmed when beginning to organize, emphasizing the importance of starting small. She advises choosing the area that causes daily frustration, such as a cluttered kitchen countertop or a messy entryway, and focusing solely on that space. By tackling the most troublesome areas first, one can avoid the paralysis that often accompanies the thought of organizing an entire home at once. Noreen underscores that while many wish for an instant solution to disorganization, effective organizing requires patience and gradual progress, concentrating on one area at a time. Expanding on her approach, Noreen warns against the urge to overhaul multiple areas simultaneously, which can lead to greater disarray and discouragement. She recommends organizing smaller sections within the time available—whether an afternoon or just an hour—to prevent the situation from becoming overwhelming. By consistently addressing these small areas, the overall task becomes more manageable. Moreover, she suggests that maintaining focus on why organization is necessary—such as reducing daily frustration—can motivate individuals to continue improving their spaces incrementally, thereby making significant progress over time.   THE “WHY” FOR BEING MORE PRODUCTIVE AND ORGANIZED Noreen explains that the motivations for organizing often stem from the emotional impact of living in cluttered spaces. For example, a cluttered bedroom, intended as a sanctuary for relaxation and rest, can become a source of stress if it fails to provide that comfort, making it a strong motivational factor for organizing. The emotional consequences extend to social interactions; individuals may feel embarrassed about the state of their homes, leading them to isolate themselves by not inviting people over. Additionally, the compulsion to buy multiple replacements for misplaced items can have financial repercussions, making effective organization a means to save money and reduce unnecessary consumption. She further emphasizes that time, an invaluable resource, is often wasted in disorganized environments. The frustration and stress associated with disorganization can significantly diminish the quality of life, robbing individuals of time that could be spent with loved ones or engaging in personal hobbies. Noreen points out that once people experience the liberating effects of an organized space, they appreciate the freedom it provides, allowing them to focus on their passions and relationships. This realization acts as a powerful catalyst for change, inspiring continued efforts towards maintaining an organized lifestyle.   HOW TO TEACH KIDS TO BE MORE ORGANIZED Noreen advises that the best way to teach children organization is through role modeling. By demonstrating good organizational habits and involving children in regular routines, such as seasonal cleaning and sorting, parents can instill practical skills and the importance of maintaining order. For example, participating in activities like clearing out the garage or sorting clothes at the end of a season helps children understand the process and the benefits of staying organized. Noreen emphasizes that simple, kid-friendly organizational tools, such as hooks for hanging items and clear bins for storing toys, make it easier for children to keep their spaces tidy while also seeing what they have. Moreover, Noreen suggests that teaching children to assign a specific home for their belongings can foster responsibility and a sense of order. Explaining to children that items like toys should have a designated place where they belong after use teaches them to sort and categorize naturally. While the approach shouldn&#8217;t be overly strict, maintaining a balance that acknowledges their age and development level is crucial. Noreen believes that these practices not only help children manage their immediate environment but also equip them with lifelong organizational skills that will benefit them well into adulthood.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? How to decorate cakes What is a place that is at the top of your travel bucket list? England What is a book, podcast, movie, or TV show that you have enjoyed recently? Podcast: The Mel Robbins Podcast Movie: It’s Complicated If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Deepak Chopra

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, we are joined by Meg Wilcox.  Meg loves a great story. Her earliest audio memories are from when she was only 4 or 5 years old, listening to CBC Radio in her dad&#8217;s art studio. While he painted big sweeping landscapes, she would divide her page into frames to make her own comic strip-like stories &#8212; one frame just wasn&#8217;t enough! In hindsight, it probably isn&#8217;t too surprising that Meg ended up a journalist. She spent many years travelling the country as a radio host, producer and reporter with the CBC, CKUA, and the Banff Centre. Now, she teaches audio storytelling, podcasting, and media freelance in the Journalism and Digital Media program at Mount Royal University in Calgary. She is also co-director of the Community Podcast Initiative &#8212; a place to encourage and explore storytelling and community connection while amplifying and supporting voices that are under-represented and misrepresented in traditional media. Meg is an award-winning podcaster, and in 2020 she was one of Avenue Magazine&#8217;s Top 40 under 40. Her first book is called The New Journalist&#8217;s Guide to Freelancing, and it&#8217;s out now via Broadview Press.   Listen in as we talk about: 3:51 Meg’s journey in becoming a journalist 8:49 Key learning experiences as a journalist 11:05 The importance of being curious 14:17 Creating a safe space for learning 15:54 Developing and teaching a podcasting course 21:19 Meg’s PhD studies with the University of Glasgow 26:22 Meg’s collaboration with Inside Out Theatre 29:44 The role of podcasting in education now and in the future 38:17 Indigenous voices, knowledge, and expertise in podcasting  46:10 The Community Podcast Initiative 49:42 Meg’s book: The New Journalist’s Guide to Freelancing 55:28 Meg’s words of wisdom    Connect with Meg: Websites:  Meg Wilcox: http://www.megwilcox.com/ The Community Podcast Initiative: https://thepodcaststudio.ca/ Instagram: @meghw @communitypodyyc Twitter: @meghw Book: The New Journalist’s Guide to Freelancing: Building Your Career in the New Media Landscape  Podcast: Community Podcast Initiative (CPI) Podcast   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.    KEY LEARNING EXPERIENCES AS A JOURNALIST “Journalists have to be curious. Without curiosity and wanting to look at things from other people’s points of view, you can’t translate that to an audience.” Meg emphasizes the paramount importance of expertise, facts, and context within the realms of journalism, particularly in an era burgeoning with misinformation and disinformation. She highlights the shift in journalism towards acknowledging not just academic experts but also individuals with lived experiences, underlining the richness this diversity brings to understanding stories. Engaging with a broad spectrum of experts, Meg underscores the continuous learning and enriching encounters that journalism facilitates as well as the expertise required in crafting informed narratives. Furthermore, Meg reflects on the unique allure of live radio broadcasts, stressing the irreplaceable experience of real-time conversations and the organic, compelling nature of such interactions. She underscores the significance of collaboration and the human element in creating meaningful content, celebrating the magic of live or minimally edited broadcasts in connecting with the audience. These live exchanges are important not only in disseminating news but also in offering diverse perspectives and insights, thereby enriching the listener&#8217;s experience and understanding of the world.     THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING CURIOUS “Be curious. Be brave. Ask questions. Make mistakes.”  When Meg’s students are curious, they tend to do better in her class. On the first day of class, Meg often puts this message on the board: “Be curious. Be brave. Ask questions. Make mistakes.” Meg recognizes that questions are hard to ask. In society, we are taught that there are times when we can or can’t ask questions. Certain questions are seen as polite or impolite. Meg believes that there is no such thing as a wrong question if you ask it respectfully and you know that there might not be an answer that comes to it. She knows that she needs to push her students out of their comfort zones to follow their curiosity, to be a bit brave, and to ask those questions. If they end up making mistakes, that’s okay. School is a great place to make mistakes.     CREATING A SAFE SPACE FOR LEARNING Meg celebrates the effort to establish a safe and encouraging environment in the classroom, highlighting its significance in fostering curiosity and allowing students to venture beyond their comfort zones without fear. She acknowledges the challenges in achieving this, especially against the backdrop of students&#8217; deep-seated fear of failure and mistakes, a sentiment she perceives to have intensified over recent years. By sharing her own failures, Meg endeavours to normalize risk-taking and mistake-making as essential parts of the learning process, underscoring the humanity and vulnerability even instructors possess.   DEVELOPING AND TEACHING A PODCASTING COURSE Further illustrating her commitment to innovative teaching methods, Meg, an associate professor at Mount Royal University in Calgary, was asked to develop a podcasting course and has been teaching it since 2017. Meg had been podcasting in a previous job and was excited to bring this to students. From a teaching perspective, podcasting still teaches you radio skills and audio skills. All the stuff that you need to know for radio, you can learn through podcasting and, as Meg says, a podcasting class sounds a little sexier than a radio class!  When she first taught the class, only 2 students put up their hands and said that they listened to podcasts. Now, students are listening and engaging much more with this medium. The podcasting course is now a required course which involves a component of community service learning. Each semester, students partner with a community organization and produce a series together for them. Even if students are specifically interested in podcasting, they love the opportunity in the program to work on something that matters rather than something just for themselves or for a grade.    THE ROLE OF PODCASTING IN EDUCATION NOW AND IN THE FUTURE “What are ways that we can collaborate to add richness and context to these important stories?” Meg explores the multifaceted role of podcasting in education, particularly in her teaching at Mount Royal University, where she introduced &#8220;assigned listenings&#8221; as a novel approach to engage students beyond traditional assigned readings. This method aims to familiarize students with key concepts in podcasting through curated podcast episodes, accompanied by guided questions to stimulate classroom discussions. Remarkably, this approach has yielded higher engagement rates than traditional readings, with students expressing a strong preference for this format. This unexpected preference led Meg to further investigate through a scholarship of teaching and learning research project, examining submission data, student surveys, and focus groups to understand the broader implications of integrating podcasting into educational contexts. Meg&#8217;s research reveals that podcasting not only accommodates diverse learning styles, including those of neurodivergent students but also fosters a deeper connection with the material through personal stories and lived experiences, enhancing empathy and contextual understanding among students. She highlights the potential of podcasts to address complex topics like residential schools, offering students space to process difficult discussions through first-person narratives. This insight into the value of podcasting in education underlines its capacity to complement traditional learning materials, suggesting a balanced integration of podcasts and readings could cater to varied informational needs and learning preferences. Meg&#8217;s findings advocate for the thoughtful inclusion of podcasts in curricula, recognizing their unique contribution to developing soft skills and engaging with challenging subjects through immersive and empathetic storytelling.

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, we are joined by Tim Truax, a geologist and CEO of PodSummit, a Canadian company focusing on podcast events.  Tim discusses the inception of PodSummit and its aim to bring together the Canadian podcast community for collaboration and learning. The podcast touches on the importance of curiosity, continuous learning, and balancing various life roles, including being a parent, professional, and entrepreneur. Tim highlights the significance of storytelling in podcasting, his listening habits, and the mentors who&#8217;ve influenced his journey. Tim is a career Geologist and has been working in the oil &#38; gas industry for over 15 years. He is a family man with a wonderfully supportive wife and two beautiful kids. As part of a journey to get more out of his passion for podcasting, Tim recently became the CEO at PodSummit, a new Canadian company that is focused on delivering unparalleled podcast events in Canada. PodSummit will launch their first event on September 20-21, 2024 with PodSummit YYC, hosted in Calgary, Alberta. This event will bring together the entire Canadian podcast community &#38; industry to celebrate the art of storytelling and to create a collaborative focal point where podcast communities and industry can come together to exchange ideas, interact, and learn from one another.   Listen in as we talk about: 03:13 Tim’s journey in becoming a geologist 07:48 Tim’s podcast: The Nerd Room Podcast 11:40 The unexpected personal benefits and joys of podcasting 17:12 The story behind PodSummit 23:37 What to expect from the PodSummit experience 29:17 The mindset of ‘success and learning’ versus ‘success and failure’ 31:04 The pillars of connection, collaboration, and creation 35:46 Juggling all the hats &#8211; husband, dad, geologist, podcast host, and entrepreneur  40:47 Teaching and learning in podcasting 46:17 Tim’s favorite teachers 49:17 What Tim is most proud of  54:46 Tim’s words of wisdom    Connect with Tim: Website: https://www.podsummit.com/ Instagram: @podsummit  @thenerdrm  Facebook: @PodSummit Podcasts:  The Podcast Experience The Nerd Room Podcast Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.    THE UNEXPECTED PERSONAL BENEFITS AND JOYS OF PODCASTING Tim stresses the importance of parents, especially those with young children, maintaining their personal interests and identities beyond their roles as mothers or fathers. He shares his own experience, describing how easy it is to lose oneself in the all-consuming nature of parenting, emphasizing how it led him to a period of self-discovery once his children reached a certain age. He reflects on the significance of remembering who you were before children and highlights how engaging in personal hobbies, like podcasting, has aided in rediscovering his identity beyond just being a husband and father. This rediscovery is crucial for personal fulfillment and maintaining a sense of self amidst the busyness of parental life. Moreover, Tim touches upon the impact of parents embracing their individual passions on their children. He discusses creating a space for his own interests, like a room filled with nostalgic collectibles, which serves as an example for his children to find and embrace what they love. He mentions how his children have their own unique interests and stresses the importance of supporting them. By illustrating his journey from losing to rediscovering his identity, Tim advocates for parents to explore their interests and engage in meaningful conversations beyond day-to-day parenting topics. This, he believes, not only aids in personal growth but also sets a positive example for children, teaching them the value of individuality and the importance of pursuing their passions.   THE PODSUMMIT EXPERIENCE Tim shares his excitement for PodSummit YYC, an upcoming podcast event in Calgary, highlighting it as a vital gathering for Canadian podcasters. Set to take place on September 20th and 21st at the Grand Theatre, Tim discusses his commitment to the event, driven by a desire to connect and learn within the podcasting community. He explains that PodSummit aims to provide a platform for Canadian podcasters to network, share insights, and grow together, emphasizing the isolation often felt in podcasting and the power of communal events to break down these barriers. He further delves into the origin and development of PodSummit, recounting his acquisition of the event from its previous owner, Ernest, and his ambition to elevate the conference to new heights. By choosing the Grand Theatre, Tim aims to foster a creative and inspirational environment, differing from conventional conferences. The event promises an array of activities, from inspirational keynotes to practical workshops covering topics like AI, monetization, and marketing, designed to cater to both new and experienced podcasters. Tim&#8217;s story showcases his commitment to strengthening the Canadian podcasting community by facilitating connections, sharing experiences, and creating opportunities for collaboration and growth.   THE 3 PILLARS OF PODSUMMIT “There&#8217;s always more to the story and that&#8217;s the best part about podcasting &#8211; because there are always more stories to tell.” Tim explains the three core pillars of PodSummit: connection, collaboration, and creation, emphasizing their importance in the podcasting community. He elaborates that &#8220;connection&#8221; fosters a sense of community among podcasters, allowing for meaningful discussions and networking. &#8220;Collaboration&#8221; extends beyond initial connections, encouraging podcasters to work together, exchange ideas, and learn from each other, overcoming isolation and differences. This pillar is crucial for personal and collective growth, promoting open-mindedness and diversity of thought. Tim believes that effective collaboration leads to the &#8220;creation&#8221; pillar, where individuals, regardless of their background, can share their stories and experiences, contributing to the rich tapestry of podcast content. The creation aspect, as Tim outlines, is about embracing the storytelling inherent in all podcasters, whether they are marketers, teachers, or individuals sharing personal narratives. This pillar celebrates the diverse ways stories can be told and the impact they can have on listeners, offering escapism or practical advice. Tim reflects on the intangible but real influence of podcasting on audiences, highlighting the potential for even the smallest pieces of content to significantly affect someone&#8217;s life. He shares his personal journey and the fulfillment derived from providing value through storytelling, underscoring the interconnectedness of the three pillars in achieving the overarching goal of PodSummit: to empower and inspire the podcasting community.   TEACHING AND LEARNING IN PODCASTING Tim elaborates on how teaching and learning have been integral to his podcasting journey, emphasizing the importance of continuous improvement and innovation. He advises against complacency, encouraging podcasters to evolve their content, experiment with new formats, and embrace mistakes as part of the learning process. Tim highlights his own practice of regularly reviewing and refining his episodes, and he underscores the significance of adapting to new technologies and platforms to enhance the podcasting experience. By sharing his journey of constant learning, including experimenting with different software and formats like AI-generated questions, Tim illustrates the dynamic nature of podcasting and the ongoing quest for improvement. On the teaching front, Tim shares his experiences helping others start and refine their podcasts, focusing on the essential elements of time commitment, purpose, and community building. He views teaching as a less natural but continually occurring aspect of his podcasting journey, often providing advice and support to emerging podcasters. Tim believes in approaching podcasting with an open mind, stressing that while initial attempts may be imperfect, there is immense value in the process of learning and teaching. His commitment to bettering himself and aiding others reflects the intertwined nature of teaching and learning in the podcasting world, underscoring their importance in fostering a vibrant and evolving community.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What podcasts are you listening to these days? The Calgary Sessions with Jeff Humphreys The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast with Matt Cardona and Brian Myers The Game with Alex Hormozi Let’s Meet For a Beer with Mark Kondrat Explore 84 with Mark Kondrat If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be?  Kevin Feige, President of Marvel Studios

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, we are joined by Lusiana Lukman and Wanda Bussiere, co-directors of the Classical Music Conservatory (CMC) in Toronto. They share their individual journeys in music and education, and how these paths led them to create a nurturing and supportive music community. Lusiana, originally from Jakarta and a third-generation teacher, delves into her early musical experiences and the establishment of CMC during her graduate studies. Wanda, transitioning from a career as a nurse in cardiology, discusses her passion for music and how it led her to partner with Lusiana in expanding the conservatory. Together, they talk about the evolution of CMC and its role in fostering a sense of community, support, and musical growth among students, parents, and teachers. They also reflect on the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, the importance of adaptability, and the continued significance of music as a source of healing and connection. The discussion extends to the transformative impact of music education on personal growth, confidence, and emotional well-being, coupled with their advice for aspiring musicians and educators. Lusiana and Wanda, both integral to the Toronto Roncesvalles neighbourhood, have cultivated a space where music education thrives alongside community spirit. Their work exemplifies the power of music to connect, teach, and inspire, reinforcing the importance of personalized teaching and community engagement in the arts.   Listen in as we talk about: 3:15 The role music has played in Lusiana and Wanda’s lives and the story of CMC 8:55 What CMC looks like today 12:49 The importance of music and how music enriches our lives 19:07 Supporting each student with their personal musical learning journey 24:27 The value of music lessons vs. learning from YouTube  28:38 How music has played a role in Lusiana and Wanda’s families 32:07 Key considerations when looking for a music teacher and music lessons 36:22 Why there isn’t one perfect age for children to start music lessons 40:39 Lusiana and Wanda talk about their favourite teachers 43:37 What Lusiana and Wanda are most proud of 46:18 Lusiana and Wanda answer some rapid-fire questions   Connect with Juliane: Website: https://www.cmccanada.com Instagram: @cmccanada97 Facebook: @cmccanada97   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.    HOW MUSIC ENRICHES OUR LIVES In discussing the profound impact of music, Wanda and Lusiana highlight the multifaceted ways in which music enriches lives. They emphasize music&#8217;s intrinsic value in today&#8217;s society, particularly noting its power to heal and provide solace in times of widespread anxiety and depression, such as those experienced during the COVID-19 pandemic. They recall personal experiences, such as turning to the piano to navigate teenage emotions, to illustrate how music serves as a powerful outlet for expressing feelings and fostering emotional and spiritual well-being. Moreover, they stress that music acts as a universal language, transcending words and connecting individuals across various dimensions of humanity. Both Lusiana and Wanda delve into the educational benefits of music, pointing out its role in enhancing self-confidence, discipline, cognitive development, and memory, especially when integrated into daily practice. They argue that the process of learning music cultivates patience and long-term goal fulfillment, outweighing the fleeting satisfaction of instant gratification. Highlighting the lifelong advantages of musical education, they share anecdotes of individuals of all ages, including an 81-year-old beginner pianist, engaging in learning new instruments, thereby underscoring the timeless value and accessibility of music education for enhancing human intelligence and maintaining neural health.   SUPPORTING EACH STUDENT WITH THEIR PERSONAL MUSIC JOURNEY “It&#8217;s a long journey learning an instrument. It&#8217;s not instant gratification. To have someone in front of you giving you that feedback, but also the encouragement and the support to actually continue on this journey, is so crucial as well.” &#8211; Wanda Bussiere Lusiana and Wanda emphasize the importance of personalized teaching strategies to meet the unique needs and preferences of each student at their music school. They begin this tailored approach by having new students fill out a questionnaire covering their musical preferences, background, and available schedule for regular lessons. This helps in pairing students with the ideal teacher to foster a connection that can significantly enhance their interest and dedication to learning. They stress the importance of a good match between teacher and student, which they believe is crucial for motivating students to progress through different levels and maintain their enthusiasm for music. They have received positive feedback from many parents and students who appreciate the perfect fit between students and teachers. Furthermore, Lusiana and Wanda discuss how they ensure that each student&#8217;s musical goals are understood and prioritized by their assigned teacher, whether they aspire to excel in exams or simply want to enjoy playing music without the pressure of formal assessments. Recognizing the diversity in their students&#8217; aims, they underscore the importance of adapting teaching methods accordingly to keep the joy and individuality of each student&#8217;s musical journey intact. They believe in catering to each student&#8217;s unique needs, whether they seek achievement in a structured exam setting or prefer to explore music more casually, ensuring a fulfilling and joyous musical education for everyone.   KEY CONSIDERATIONS WHEN LOOKING FOR A MUSIC TEACHER AND MUSIC LESSONS Community and relationships are central to the music school experience that Wanda and Lusiana have created with CMC &#8211; the Classical Music Conservatory. But &#8211; if you are looking for in-person music lessons and you don’t live in the Toronto area, they share some key considerations to keep in mind.  Wanda and Lusiana stress the importance of finding the right match between teacher and student as a crucial aspect when searching for music education, whether in Toronto, Calgary, or any other part of the world. They suggest that music schools should employ a detailed questionnaire for new students, covering their musical goals and backgrounds, to ensure a compatible pairing beyond mere scheduling convenience. This personalized approach helps in creating a nurturing environment conducive to learning. They emphasize that the quest for the perfect teacher might require sampling various instructors to ensure not only a match in musical knowledge but also in personal connection, which significantly impacts the quality of the learning experience. They also touch on the importance of mutual understanding and respect in the teacher-student relationship, highlighting that music education is a long-term journey that should feel as comfortable as a second home. They share personal experiences to illustrate the importance of aligning teacher and student expectations and encourage listening to personal instincts and the child&#8217;s preferences when it comes to choosing the right instructor. Luciana and Wanda&#8217;s advice reflects a holistic approach to music education, focusing on the importance of connection, adaptability, and supportive teaching environments to foster ongoing musical interest and development.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? Lusiana: Tread water Wanda: Palliative and hospice care What is a place that is at the top of your travel bucket list?  Lusiana: Witness the Aurora Borealis (Northern Lights) Wanda: More of Canada What is a book, podcast, movie, or TV show that you have enjoyed recently?  Lusiana: Book: What Happened to You?: Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing by Oprah Winfrey and Dr. Bruce Perry, Podcast: Money Feels TV Show: True Detectives  Wanda:  Book: Signs: The Secret Language of the Universe by Laura Lynne Jackson If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be?  Lusiana: God Wanda: Her dad

In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, Juliane Gallant shares her journey from starting as a pianist to her current role as a conductor. She talks about the significance of music and the role of a conductor in an orchestra, explaining how music can unite people and provoke powerful connections.  She highlights her work in education and her enthusiasm for community outreach programs including interactive opera workshops and concerts. Julianne expresses her commitment to fostering equality on the podium by broadening the scope of what leadership is. She also talks about the power of being open to new opportunities. New Brunswick-born Juliane Gallant is the Resident Conductor of the Calgary Philharmonic Orchestra. She is one of two conductors chosen for the inaugural cohort of the Tapestry Opera Women in Musical Leadership Fellowship. Since relocating to Canada during the pandemic after a decade in the UK, she has appeared as a guest conductor with the Okanagan Symphony Orchestra, Kingston Symphony Orchestra, Victoria Symphony, and Symphony New Brunswick. A passionate collaborator, Juliane first trained as a pianist and vocal coach and began her conducting career in opera. She has led productions throughout the UK for a number of companies. She made her Royal Opera House conducting debut in 2021 in collaboration with Pegasus Opera.  A strong believer in music as a vehicle for joy and human connection, a large component of Juliane&#8217;s portfolio career in the UK was in the community outreach and education sectors. She led interactive opera workshops in schools in underserved London boroughs, with communities of refugees, and with people living with physical and mental disabilities. She has also extensively worked with Lost Chord, a charity that brings live music to people living with dementia.   Listen in as we talk about: 4:32 Starting a journey in music 7:08 Shifting from musician to conductor 11:40 Being a conductor and resident conductor 16:05 Challenges and observations as a female conductor 21:00 People-centered leadership 26:43 The profound impact of music  28:41 Education and community outreach as a conductor 32:28 The current relevance of symphonic concerts 36:16 Music&#8217;s capacity to unite, move and challenge people 40:57 Juliane’s favorite teacher and favorite learning experience 43:33 Something that Juliane is most proud of 45:02 Juliane answers some rapid-fire questions   Connect with Juliane: Websites: https://www.julianegallant.com https://calgaryphil.com Instagram: @julianegallant @calgaryphil  Facebook: @julianegallant @calgaryphil  Twitter: @JulianeGallant @CalgaryPhil TikTok: @calgaryphil  LinkedIn: Calgary Philharmonic Orchestra    Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  Today’s episode is produced by VOLT Productions, a full-service podcast production agency helping creators and entrepreneurs launch, grow and monetize their shows. You can learn more about the agency’s founder Simona, their work and their team by going to www.voltproductions.co.      BEING A CONDUCTOR Juliane shares insights into the multifaceted role of a conductor, emphasizing that it extends far beyond merely keeping time or waving arms. She clarifies that her primary responsibility is ensuring that the orchestra starts together, navigating tempo variations and guiding the musicians through the emotional and dynamic nuances of the music. Juliane stresses the importance of the conductor in interpreting subtle cues like the different intensities of quiet, which can profoundly affect the performance&#8217;s overall impact. She believes that a conductor&#8217;s energy can unify and inspire the orchestra, highlighting the role&#8217;s complexity as a blend of leadership, decision-making, and artistic interpretation. In her role as the Resident Conductor of the Calgary Philharmonic, Juliane describes herself as a community liaison deeply embedded in the local scene, contrasting with the more itinerant music director. She engages with the community through educational programs and non-traditional concerts, aiming to make classical music accessible to a broader audience. Juliane also discusses the unique experiences and perspectives brought by different conductors, including guest specialists, and how these variations enrich the orchestra&#8217;s performance. She touches on the challenges faced by female conductors, advocating for a broader understanding of leadership that accommodates different styles and approaches. Juliane is passionate about inspiring young girls, highlighting shifts in the industry to promote more female conductors and ensure a more inclusive and equitable future in musical leadership.   CONNECTING &#38; COLLABORATING WITH PEOPLE THROUGH MUSIC Juliane believes that arts organizations can profoundly impact communities by making the arts accessible and enjoyable for everyone, regardless of prior knowledge. Her programming philosophy reflects a belief in the universality and inclusivity of music, offering a diverse season that ranges from classical to contemporary genres, including jazz, Broadway, and music from iconic figures like David Bowie. Juliane emphasizes the communal and transformative power of live music, asserting it as a force that unites and elevates human experiences, bridging gaps and fostering a sense of community among diverse audiences. Drawing from her rich background in education and community outreach, Juliane integrates these experiences into her role as a conductor, aiming to connect and educate through music. While living in the UK, she engaged in innovative educational projects, introducing opera to children in interactive formats and working with individuals with dementia, highlighting music&#8217;s ability to unlock cognitive areas and enhance well-being. These experiences have shaped her approach, ensuring her musical direction not only entertains but also educates and engages, reaffirming her commitment to leveraging music&#8217;s transformative power to affect individuals&#8217; lives positively and enrich the broader community.   THE PROFOUND IMPACT OF MUSIC “The Arts are something that unifies people and opens up conversations in a way that is extremely unique.” Juliane discusses the profound impact of music in uniting, moving, and challenging individuals. She emphasizes the collective experience of live performances, such as a Mahler symphony, which can bring together diverse audiences to share in an emotional journey, transforming the atmosphere and fostering a sense of unity despite differences. This shared experience in the concert hall, she notes, can open up avenues for dialogue and connection that are unique to the arts, demonstrating music&#8217;s power to bridge gaps between varied backgrounds and perspectives. Juliane also reflects on the emotional resonance of live music, especially highlighted by her own experiences post-pandemic, underscoring the irreplaceable value of witnessing live performances and the visceral reactions they can elicit. She further explores music&#8217;s role in challenging individuals, encouraging them to explore beyond their comfort zones and engage with unfamiliar genres or compositions. This, she argues, is essential for personal growth and cultural understanding, advocating for openness and willingness to experience and appreciate the broad spectrum of musical expression.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is something that you would love to learn about or something that you would love to learn how to do? Learn to play the accordion What is a place that is at the top of your travel bucket list? Iceland and Corsica What is a book, podcast, movie, or TV show that you have enjoyed recently? Book: Yellowface by K.F. Kuang If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Leonard Bernstein

In this special episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, we celebrate a significant milestone—four years of podcasting—by welcoming two extraordinary guests, my parents, Susan and Brian Plesuk. Initially hesitant, with my mom doubting what insight she could possibly contribute and my dad concerned about memorizing lines, they eventually agreed to be on my podcast! I am grateful to my mom and dad not only for being exceptional parents but also for being lifelong teachers of kindness, generosity, community engagement, and the importance of nurturing relationships. These qualities have made them role models and my favourite educators outside of a traditional classroom setting, even though I might not have always seen it that way, especially during my teenage years. My mom, a retired social worker with an impressive career dedicated to domestic violence issues and community service, and my dad, with a background in community development and public relations, have led lives focused on making a difference. My mom’s work has included various roles at the YWCA and consultancy for the Alberta Council of Women’s Shelters, alongside volunteering efforts that support causes like the Stephen Lewis Foundation. My dad, after a career in community development and public relations, including significant contributions to the oil and gas industry, now enjoys retirement by travelling, volunteering, and spending time with family.  Their stories and wisdom are not only a reflection of their professional achievements but also of their personal commitment to family and community, making them the perfect guests for my podcast&#8217;s celebration of four years of storytelling and learning.   Listen in as we talk about: [6:19] Pivotal moments and influences that led my parents to their respective careers [10:25] The motivation for and the impact of pursuing a university education  [12:02] The importance of mentorship [16:49] Key insights learned from parenthood and grandparenthood  [20:00] Core values and life lessons to pass on to children and grandchildren [23:53] The challenges and joys of retirement [29:50] Staying curious and always learning [32:33] My parents’ favourite teachers [35:14] What my parents are most proud of [40:35] My parents answer some rapid-fire questions [45:17] Words of wisdom from my mom and dad   Connect with My Mom &#8211; Susan Plesuk: Instagram: @susanplesuk  Facebook: @susan.plesuk  LinkedIn: Susan Plesuk    Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    THEIR MOTIVATION FOR AND THE IMPACT OF PURSUING UNIVERSITY EDUCATION When my mom embarked on her university journey, she initially enrolled in sciences due to a late application before discovering her passion for recreation and therapeutic recreation through a high school acquaintance. This pivot was driven by her realization that higher education was crucial for her aspiration to work with people, highlighting a desire for personal and professional growth. My dad’s path to university was shaped by a divergence from family tradition. He was the first in his extended family to attend university. With his family rooted in trades like plumbing and welding, my dad lacked those skills and saw academia as his only alternative.    THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTORSHIP “There are people out there who can teach us things and touch our lives regardless of their age, social status or education. Being open to that is really, really important.” &#8211; Brian Plesuk My mom&#8217;s journey into mentorship stemmed from her supervisory role within an organization dealing with domestic violence, where she observed firsthand the effects of trauma. Her experience with a previous ineffective supervisor highlighted the importance of creating a supportive environment. This realization prompted her to prioritize open communication and establish a safe space for her team to discuss their feelings and challenges. My mom’s insight into mentorship revolves around the significance of empathy and safety in leadership, ensuring professionals feel competent and supported despite the demanding nature of their work. My dad’s path to becoming a mentor was influenced by his early career experiences and interactions with seasoned professionals. As a university student, very confident in his knowledge, my dad&#8217;s eagerness to share his ideas led him to a pivotal mentorship under a senior city official who valued learning from younger generations. This experience, coupled with his subsequent encounters with mentors throughout his career, taught him the importance of openness and listening to others, regardless of their age or experience level. An Indigenous elder&#8217;s perspective on wisdom further shaped my dad’s understanding, emphasizing the value of acknowledging one&#8217;s limitations. His mentorship philosophy centers on mutual respect, learning, and the recognition that true wisdom comes from understanding what we do not know.     CORE VALUES AND LIFE LESSONS TO PASS ON TO CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN My parents have aspired to instill core values such as kindness, respect, helpfulness, gratitude, and curiosity in their three children, emphasizing the importance of learning from mistakes, nurturing friendships, and volunteering. These values, alongside a sense of wonder and the importance of acknowledging the gifts life offers, form the foundation they hoped would shape their children into thoughtful, engaged adults. The emphasis on doing one&#8217;s best, being open to learning, and maintaining relationships underpins their approach to parenting. Reflecting on the impact of these values, their children (including me! 🙂 ) have grown into individuals who make a positive difference in the world, demonstrating kindness, respect, and a continuous pursuit of personal growth and contribution to their communities. I acknowledge the challenges of self-assessment but take pride in the evident traits of curiosity and generosity in my siblings and myself despite the complexities of life and the constant evolution of personal and professional paths.   MY PARENTS’ FAVOURITE TEACHERS My mom holds a special place in her heart for her mom, who stands out as one of her favourite teachers due to her innate kindness and genuine interest in people. Moreover, my mom feels incredibly fortunate to have crossed paths with remarkable women over the years – individuals whose strength and wisdom have profoundly shaped her journey. Among them, an exceptional supervisor during her time at the YWCA emerges as a highly impactful mentor. This mentor not only facilitated my mom&#8217;s professional growth but also imparted crucial skills in trauma work, leaving an indelible mark on her career. During my dad&#8217;s undergraduate years at university, he was fortunate to have an exceptional Sociology Professor named George Kupfer. Their connection went beyond the classroom, extending through undergraduate studies, work, graduate studies, and beyond, maintaining a bond for over 50 years. Even now, in his late 80s, George engages in discussions with my dad about books and readings, reflecting his enduring passion for literature. Remarkably, George still assigns readings to my dad, prompting playful banter about avoiding assignments and book reports. Reflecting on their relationship, my dad cherishes George&#8217;s presence in his life as a profound blessing, a constant source of wisdom and camaraderie that has enriched his journey over the decades.   RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS What is a place that is at the top of your travel bucket list? Bri: Scotch Creek, B.C. Suz: Costa Rica What is a book, podcast, movie, or TV show that you have enjoyed recently? Bri:  Book: Successful Aging by Daniel Levitin  Suz: Book: The Light We Carry by Michelle Obama If you could sit down and have a conversation with someone that you would love to learn from, who would it be? Bri: Barack and Michelle Obama Suz: Her mom