The Poems We Made Along The Way

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Carl Phillips about the eroticism of line breaks, developing titles of poems, and poetry as a place to explore uncertainty.Carl Phillips is the author of seventeen books of poetry, most recently Scattered Snows, to the North (Carcanet, 2024). Then the War: And Selected Poems 2007-2020 (Carcanet, 2022) won the 2023 Pulitzer Prize. Phillips has also written three prose books, most recently My Trade Is Mystery: Seven Meditations from a Life in Writing (Yale University Press, 2022). After more than thirty years of teaching at Washington UniversityBooks and other thingsScattered Snows to the North: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781800174337/scattered-snows-to-the-north/ Then the War And Selected Poems 2007-2020: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781800172296/then-the-war/ Wild is the Wind: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374538248/wildisthewind/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way              We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:2017 Craft Talk Carl Phillips Palm Beach Poetry Festival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq7vBGN54w Pulitzer-winning poet Carl Phillips on his work and the power of poetry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_g8UcovyTI Carl Phillips talks about his work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcHbi0iDLE The Life of a Poet: Carl Phillips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMm0FHh7ik4 The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/@ThePoemsWeMade Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ThePoemsWeMade Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Shara McCallum about the ethics of art, the difference between subject and theme, and how we can use form as a way to bare content. Shara McCallum is a poet and professor at Penn State University. She has written numerous books which included The Face of Water, No Ruined Stone, and most recently Behold. All published in the UK by Peepal Tree Press.Books and other thingsBehold: https://www.peepaltreepress.com/books/behold No Ruined Stone: https://www.peepaltreepress.com/books/no-ruined-stone Madwoman: https://www.peepaltreepress.com/books/madwoman The Face of Water: New and Selected Poems: https://www.peepaltreepress.com/books/the-face-of-water You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way              We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Shara McCallum on Writing in Community: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42BLvgz2PDM Shara McCallum on Her Writing Process & Finding Models: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFHDzkr5hY4 Shara McCallum reads at the 2014 Dodge Poetry Festival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_5ShBVCsHc Conversations with Writers: Shara McCallum--Poetry is Not Dead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzcIdJ-ylls The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/@ThePoemsWeMade Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ThePoemsWeMade Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Kym Deyn about the fundamental creativity of tricksters, what they’ve learnt being an editor of their own press, and tarot card reading as structured improv.Kym Deyn is a poet, editor, and professional Tarot Card reader. They are the editor of The Braag, a poetry and speculative fiction micro press, including micro journal Carmen et Error. Kym was published in Primers Vol 6 by Nine Arches Press and their pamphlet Dionysia was published by Verve Poetry Press. Kym’s debut collection Folkish is published by Nine Arches Press.  Books and other thingsFolkish: https://ninearchespress.ecwid.com/Folkish-Kym-Deyn-p814015064 Dionysia: https://www.vervepoetrybookshop.com/product-page/dionysia-kym-deyn Unfurl: https://thebraag.co/product/pre-order-unfurl-by-kym-deyn-nathaniel-spain-and-finlay-worrallo/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way              We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Rebel Heroines Bonus Episode-Interview with Kym Deyn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFMLEHji_BE&t=962s The Braag: https://thebraag.co/ Carmen et Error Issue 3: https://carmenerror.com/?page_id=142 Carmen et Error Issue 3.5: https://carmenerror.com/?page_id=150 The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ThePoemsWeMade Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Sasha Dugdale about ventriloquism, stealing a school poetry textbook, and the role of serendipity in writing.Sasha Dugdale is a poet and translator. Her collections include Joy, Deformations and, most recently, The Strongbox, all published by Carcanet. She has translated Russian-language literature including Maria Stephanova’s In Memory of Memory, and formally was editor of Modern Poetry in Translation.Books and other thingsThe Strongbox: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781800174085/the-strongbox/ Deformations: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781784108984/deformations/ Joy: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781784105037/joy/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way              We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:PoetryEast | Sasha Dugdale in conversation with Maitreyabandhu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcn9YjRduj4  In Conversation with Sasha Dugdale: https://forwardartsfoundation.org/in-conversation-with-sasha-dugdale/  The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ThePoemsWeMade Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to John McCullough about queer joy, neurodivergence, and conveying energy in a poem.John McCullough is a poet who has published five collections including Reckless Paper Birds, Panic Response both published by Penned in the Margins, and most recently Crowd Voltage published by Bloodaxe. John is a Senior Lecturer in creative writing at the University of Brighton. Books and other thingsCrowd Voltage: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/crowd-voltage-1392 Panic Response: https://www.pennedinthemargins.co.uk/index.php/2022/02/panic-response/Reckless Paper Birds: https://www.pennedinthemargins.co.uk/index.php/2019/05/reckless-paper-birds/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way              We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:David Tait interviews John McCullough: https://poetrybusiness.co.uk/david-tait-interviews-john-mccullough/ S1 Episode 15: Playfulness | Persistence – with John McCullough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3OyfhnwnSE The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ThePoemsWeMade Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Ian McMillan about almost a quarter of a century of The Verb, surrealism, and twenty-four hour poetry hubs.Ian McMillan is a poet, journalist, broadcaster. His books include To Fold The Evening Star, Neither Nowt Nor Summat, My Sand Life My Pebble Life and Dad the Donkey’s on Fire. He has been hosting The Verb since 2002, BBC Radio 4’s Cabaret of the word. He has worked with The Circus of Poets, a performance poetry group and Versewagon, the World’s first mobile writing workshop. Books and other thingsTo Fold the Evening Start New And Selected Poems: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781784101886/to-fold-the-evening-star/My Sand Life, My Pebble Life: https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/my-sand-life-my-pebble-life-9781472982957/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way        We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.The Verb on Radio 4: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/b006tnsf?page=1 Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Ian MacMillan*, The er Barnsley Seascapes (Poetry): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzimhyGgLUE Ian MacMillan*, the Bard of Yorkshire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3OyfhnwnSE The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk    Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ThePoemsWeMade  *The publisher’s misspelling not mine Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Roma Havers about writing for commission early in a career, queerness in the archive, and following meaningful coincidences.Roma Havers is a queer poet, theatre-maker and unsolicited go-go dancer – from your hometown but living in Manchester with their partner, allotment and every stone they’ve ever pocketed. Commissioned by Orchestra’s Live, Manchester City of Literature and Manchester Museum, among many others, they are known for their ‘joyful, communal and tender’ work. Their debut collection ‘The Natural Way’ was published by Carcanet in February 2026.Books and other thingsThe Natural Way: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781800175464/the-natural-way/You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way             We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Kayleigh Hicks & Roma Havers - Act 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfzeGIVKb4&t=20sLet the Artists in! Roma Havers: https://www.mmu.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/story/let-artists-roma-haversThe UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk    Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ThePoemsWeMade Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Helen Calcutt about working with children, translating language into movement, and how her perspective on tackling sensitive material in poetry has changed. Helen Calcutt is a poet, dancer and choreographer. Her pamphlet Somehow was published by Verve Poetry Press in 2020, and her collection Feeling All the Kills was published by Pavilion Press in 2024. Helen also founded Beyond Words which is a dance theatre company, which specialises in using Hypha which is a technique Helen innovated for translating text into movement. Books and other thingsFeeling All the Kills: https://www.liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/doi/book/10.3828/9781802074727 Somehow: https://www.poetrybooks.co.uk/collections/verve-poetry-press/products/somehow-by-helen-calcutt You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way              We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.https://helencalcutt.com/ https://www.beyondwordsdancetheatre.com/grief-is-the-thing-with-feathers Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Tsaá with Helen Calcutt: Writing pain and love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqJZ6rXsVE0&t=1718s Grief Is the Thing with Feathers - Dance Adapation by Beyond Words Dance Theatre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6p_cNyl5IgThe UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Taz Rahman about what being a wedding photographer teaches you about poetry, the importance of poetry libraries, and negating our sense of hurt.Taz Rahman is a poet, photographer and broadcaster based in Cardiff. He founder Wales’ first Poetry YouTube Channel Just Another Poet, where he captures poetry events and has an wide array of amazing interviews with poets. His debut collection East of the Sun, West of the Moon was published in 2024 with Seren press. Books and other thingsEast of the Sun, West of the Moon: https://www.serenbooks.com/book/east-of-the-sun-west-of-the-moon/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way              We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Just Another Poet YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@justanotherpoet2542 The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Michael Symmons Roberts about Filmmaker Tarkovsky, faith in poetry, and The Royal Literary Fund.Michael Symmons Roberts is a poet, librettist, Professor at Manchester Metropolitan University, and worked at the BBC in radio and then as a documentary filmmaker. He has published 9 collections, the most recent is called Dogstar and was published earlier this month by Jonathan Cape. Books and other thingsDogstar: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/474274/dog-star-by-roberts-michael-symmons/9781787336032 Ransom: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/442539/ransom-by-michael-symmons-roberts/9781787333123Mancunia : https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/434442/mancunia-by-michael-symmons-roberts/9781911214298Drysalter: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/411086/drysalter-by-michael-symmons-roberts/9781448181407 You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way            We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Michael Symmons Roberts talks about his work (2017): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVjhZx2pt60Michael Symmons Roberts talks about his work (2021): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CY5SGZumwI The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Martin Kratz the poetics of touch, his interesting relationship with the German and English languages, and the importance of co-curation at Manchester Poetry Library.Martin Kratz is a poet, translator, and programme manager at Manchester Poetry Library. He was co-editor of Mount London (Penned in the Margins, 2014) and the author of a poetry pamphlet, A Skeleton’s Progress (Poetry Salzburg, 2018).Books and other thingsA Skelton’s Progress: https://www.poetrysalzburg.com/skeleton.htm You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way             We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Manchester Poetry Library: https://www.mmu.ac.uk/poetry-library Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Commemoration Day of Ferdowsi 2021, Martin Kratz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVjhZx2pt60 Martin Kratz and Scott Lilley : York - European Poetry Festival 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6p_cNyl5Ig The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Natalie Shapero about line breaks, stand up comedy and only writing in iambic pentameter for the first 7 years of being a poet.Natalie Shapero is a poet and teacher. Her most recent collection is Stay Dead published in the UK by Outspoken Press and in the US by Copper Canyon Press. And of course it was shortlisted for the TS Eliot Prize. Her previous collections include Popular Longing, Hard Child and No Object. She teaches at UC Irvine. Thank you to the T.S. Eliot Prize for facilitating this episode as part of a series of interviews with poets shortlisted for the 2025 prize. www.tseliot.com/prize/prize-year/the-t-s-eliot-prize-2025/        Books and other thingsStay Dead: https://www.outspokenldn.com/shop/staydeadPopular Longing: https://www.coppercanyonpress.org/books/popular-longing-by-natalie-shapero/ Hard Child: https://www.powells.com/book/hard-child-9781556595097 No Object: https://www.powells.com/book/no-object-9780983368670 You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way            We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Natalie Shapero talks about her work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAiZLPfoME Natalie Shapero Drunk as a Poet: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/natalie-shapero/id1735261299?i=1000731801211 The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Catherine-Esther Cowie about persona poetry as a type of mask work, how we are thoughtful about not perpetuating violence when we write about it, and making sure we don’t use craft to obscure the heart of the poem.Catherine-Esther Cowie is a poet, fiction writer and visual artist. She was born and raised on the Caribbean island of St. Lucia. She attended high-school, undergrad and graduate schools in Canada and the US. Currently, Catherine-Esther resides in Illinois. Her work has been nominated for AWP Intro Journal, a Pushcart Prize and Best New Poets 2018 and 2019. Her visual art was nominated for the Best of the Net Anthology 2023. Her debut Collection Heirloom is published by Carcanet .Thank you to the T.S. Eliot Prize for facilitating this episode as part of a series of interviews with poets shortlisted for the 2025 prize. www.tseliot.com/prize/prize-year/the-t-s-eliot-prize-2025/       Books and other thingsHeirloom: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781800174795/heirloom/You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way           We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview:Young Critic Aphra Le Levier-Bennett reviews Catherine-Esther Cowie's Heirloomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysqPl9nMfT0Poetry Today: 9/15/2025 Esther Cowie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFF5bSSEJXw&t=255sROSALÍA: The LUX Interview | The Zane Lowe Interviewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCcoi3Tzv_Y The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Isabelle Baafi about Dungeons and Dragons, how being a poetry critic effects the writing of poetry, and exploring poetic forms.Isabelle Baafi is a poet and editor based in London. Her debut collection Chaotic Good won the Jerwood Prize for Best First Collection, is a Poetry Book Society Recommendation and is shortlisted for the T.S, Eliot Prize. She is the Reviews Editor at Poetry London and is a Ledbury Poetry Critic, an Obsidian Foundation Fellow and board member at Magma.Thank you to the T.S. Eliot Prize for facilitating this episode as part of a series of interviews with poets shortlisted for the 2025 prize. www.tseliot.com/prize/prize-year/the-t-s-eliot-prize-2025/      Books and other thingsChaotic Good: https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571390953-chaotic-good/You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way          We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.An incomplete list of poems/books mentioned in this episode:American Sonnet for My Past and Future Assassin by Terrance Hayes https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/143917/american-sonnet-for-my-past-and-future-assassin-598dc83c976f1A man is dragging a dead dog by Jack Underwood: https://poetryarchive.org/poem/man-dragging-dead-dog/  January Children by Safia Elhillo: https://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/nebraska/9780803295988/the-january-children/Cannibal by Safiya Sinclair: https://safiyasinclair.com/cannibal Things I read/watched/etc in the lead up to this interview:In Conversation with Isabelle Baafi: https://forwardartsfoundation.org/in-conversation-with-isabelle-baafi/ sub(VERSE)ive: In Conversation with Isabelle Baafi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU4Blu8Ke-c&t=1107s The UsualMake sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk      Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Gillian Allnutt about reading poems out loud during the drafting stage, writing persona poetry, and hating punctuation.Gillian Allnutt is a poet based in the northeast of England. She has published 10 collections of poetry including Nantuckert and the Angel and Lintel which were both shortlisted for the TS Eliot Prize in 1997 and 2001 respectively. Of course, Gillian’s most recent collection Lode published by Bloodaxe has been shortlisted for this years TS Elliot prize. She won the Northern Rock Foundation Writer’s Award in 2005 and received a Cholmondeley Award in 2010.Thank you to the T.S. Eliot Prize for facilitating this episode as part of a series of interviews with poets shortlisted for the 2025 prize. www.tseliot.com/prize/prize-year/the-t-s-eliot-prize-2025/     Books and other thingsLode: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/lode-1376 Wake: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/wake-1183 How the Bicycle Shone: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/how-the-bicycle-shone-860 You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way         We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things I read/watched/etc in the lead up to this interviewInterview on Monk Gallery mentioned in the episode: https://monk.gallery/interviews/gillian-allnutt-under-northern-skies-divinations-of-a-warrior-poet/ Gillian Allnutt Talks About Her Work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T56nzN_giwo The UsualPlease give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Vona Groarke about being selected for the Ireland Professor of Poetry, how government investment in the arts has a positive cultural impact, and the importance of not divulging to much about your writing practice. Vona Groarke has written numerous volumes of poetry, all published by The Gallery Press. Including: Shale, X, Double Negative, and most recently Infinity Pool which, of course, was shortlisted for 2025’s TS Eliot Prize. Vona teaches at the Centre for New Writing at the University of Manchester and was recently selected as the Ireland Professor of Poetry.Thank you to the T.S. Eliot Prize for facilitating this episode as part of a series of interviews with poets shortlisted for the 2025 prize. www.tseliot.com/prize/prize-year/the-t-s-eliot-prize-2025/    Books and other things:Infinity Pool: https://gallerypress.com/product/infinity-pool/ Link (Poet and World): https://gallerypress.com/product/link-poet-and-world/Hereafter The Telling Life of Ellen O’Hara: https://nyupress.org/9781479835324/hereafter/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way        We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things I watched in the lead up to this interviewVona Groarke talks of passion, architecture, and sonnets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRZDldxhDlk&t=34s Speech by President Higgins to celebrate Vona Groarke as the new Ireland Professor of Poetry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxyDMTzKgcE Vona Groarke talks about her work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gtj70aF894 (this wasn’t actually out before our interview but it is good nonetheless) The UsualPlease give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Sarah Howe about flow states, the pedagogical difficulties of the writers’ workshop, and the changing landscapes of poetry criticism.Sarah Howe is a poet and editor. She has published two collections of poetry including her debut Loop of Jade which won the TS Eliot Prize in 2015 and then Foretokens published in 2025. Previously she taught poetry and creative writing at King’s College London and is now the Poetry Editor at Chatto and Windus.Thank you to the T.S. Eliot Prize for facilitating this episode as part of a series of interviews with poets shortlisted for the 2025 prize. www.tseliot.com/prize/prize-year/the-t-s-eliot-prize-2025/   Books and other things:Foretokens: www.penguin.co.uk/books/470921/foretokens-by-howe-sarah/9781784746131 Loop of Jade: www.penguin.co.uk/books/419789/loop-of-jade-by-sarah-howe/9780701188696 You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way       We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Things I watched in the lead up to this interviewSarah Howe | Two Systems || Radcliffe Institute: www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDHa4OEqaeo&t=1076s An interview with Sarah Howe, winner of the T. S. Eliot Prize 2015: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ShuXnfBKkThe UsualPlease give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Nick Makoha about the Obsidian Foundation, the layering of many gazes, and self-discovery through art. Nick Makoha is a poet, playwright and founder of the Obsidian Foundation. He has published two collections, his first Kingdom of Gravity and his most recent The New Carthaginians published by Penguin Press and of course shortlisted for the 2025 T.S. Eliot Prize.Thank you to the T.S. Eliot Prize for facilitating this email as part of a series of interviews with poets shortlisted for the 2025 prize. www.tseliot.com/prize/prize-year/the-t-s-eliot-prize-2025/  Books and other things:The New Carthaginians: www.penguin.co.uk/books/463875/the-new-carthaginians-by-makoha-nick/9781802067064 Kingdom of Gravity: www.peepaltreepress.com/books/kingdom-gravity You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way      We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Obsidian Foundation: obsidianfoundation.co.uk/ Things I watched in the lead up to this interviewsub(VERSE)ive: In Conversation with Nick Makoha: www.youtube.com/watch?v=URpxb1PAh0k&t=2885s Basquiat Revolution: From Policing To Parties, Family & Fab 5 Freddy Recount Artist's Work (2022): www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg8aA9VRHKQ&t=1450s Jean Michel Basquiat Interview - Patty Astor & Fab 5 Freddy on the Fun Gallery: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa8LBtaOsxs The UsualPlease give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Clare Pollard about breaking your own rules, poems being like haunted houses, and the word poetess.Clare Pollard is a poet, novelist, children’s author, translator non-fiction writer and editor. She wrote her first poetry collection The Heavy-Petting Zoo (published by Bloodaxe) was written while she was still in school. Her other books include The Modern Fairies, The Untameables, Delphi and her most recent collection of poetry The Lives of the Female Poets is published by Bloodaxe. Links to writingLives of the Female Poets: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/lives-of-the-female-poets Incarnation: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/incarnation-1134Look, Clare ! Look!: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/look-clare-look--817Delphi: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/447396/delphi-by-pollard-clare/9780241995266 You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way     We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Clare's Poetry Circle Substack: https://clarespoetrycircle.substack.com/ Things I watched in the lead up to this interviewLaunch reading by Emilie Jenlinek, Clare Pollard and Jessica Traynor (Bloodaxe): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He4JaXNJzdwClare Pollard in conversation with Helen Eastman (Archive of Performances of Greek and Roman Drama): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUqZU6JNJo0&t=205sPoetry as a way to gain control | A Drink with Clare Pollard (Idler): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmB955IJFJg The UsualPlease give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to George Szirtes about form, translation, and the exact moment that he decided that he wanted to become a poet.George Szirtes is a poet, memoirist, editor and translator. He has published numerous collections of poetry including Reel (which won the TS Eliot Prize), Mapping the Delta and his most recent collection Fresh Out of the Sky published by Bloodaxe. He has translated numerous Hungarian writers into English including 2025’s Nobel Prize for Literature winner László Krasznahorkai. Fresh Out of the Sky: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/fresh-out-of-the-sky-1280The Photographer at Sixteen: https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/george-szirtes/the-photographer-at-sixteen/9780857058553/ The London Review Bookshop documentary focusing on George produced by Anthony Wilks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_IwmwUH570 You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-five-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way        We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Mary Jean Chan about clarity, truth vs fact in a poem and the drafting process as a form of play.Mary Jean Chan is the author of Flèche (Faber & Faber, 2019), which won the Costa Book Award for Poetry. Bright Fear (Faber, 2023), Chan's second book, was shortlisted for the Forward Prize for Best Collection, the Dylan Thomas Prize and the Writer’s Prize. They co-edited the anthology 100 Queer Poems (Vintage, 2022) with Andrew McMillan and served as a judge for the 2023 Booker Prize. Chan is currently Departmental Lecturer in Poetry on the MSt in Creative Writing at the University of Oxford and a Research Fellow at Harris Manchester College, Oxford.Flèche: https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571348046-fleche/ Bright Fear: https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571378906-bright-fear/ 100 Queer Poems Anthology: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/445204/100-queer-poems-by-chan-edited-by-andrew-mcmillan-and-mary-jean/9781529115338 Credit for Mary Jean’s photo: Ray BurmistonYou can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-four-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way       We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Erica Hesketh about poetic form, the creativity of translation and exploring heritage. Erica Hesketh is a poet and editor, originally from Japan and Denmark, now based in London. Her poetry has been commissioned by the Royal Festival Hall, Spread the Word and the London Philharmonic Orchestra. From 2016 to 2024 she was Director of the Poetry Translation Centre. Her debut collection, In the Lily Room, is published by Nine Arches Press and explores early motherhood.Erica Hesketh’s Website: https://ericahesketh.co.uk In the Lily Room: https://ninearchespress.com/publications/poetry-collections/in-the-lily-room Living in Language, essay anthology: https://www.poetrybooks.co.uk/products/living-in-language-pre-order?srsltid=AfmBOop5G-U5NLC42s6RGCKVFraMKl5kJO7gMG5WhRdRGhfx3bmXuGCqYou can find Erica on Instagram: @heskethericaCredit for Erica’s photo: Christy KuLinks relating to Gaza:The Sameer Project Medical Campaign: https://chuffed.org/project/136892-medical-campaign-x-sameer-projectReaders and Writers against the Genocide: https://rwag.teemill.com/Medical Aid For Palestinians: https://www.map.org.uk/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/thepoemswemade     We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Rishi Dastidar about the death of rhetoric, the importance of good titles and the links between poetry and advertising.Rishi Dastidar is a poet, copywriter and brand strategist. His books Ticker Tape, Safron Jack and Neptune’s Projects have all been published by Nine Arches Press. His new book A Hobby of Mine was published by Broken Sleep Books earlier this year. He is on the board of 26 and is a fellow of the Royal Society of Arts.Rishi Dastidar’s Website: https://www.rishidastidar.com/ Rishi’s BBC Radio show on the relationship between poetry and advertising: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000kfvf A Hobby of Mine: https://www.brokensleepbooks.com/product-page/rishi-dastidar-a-hobby-of-mine Neptune’s Projects: https://ninearchespress.com/publications/poetry-collections/neptune-s-projects Saffron Jack: https://ninearchespress.com/publications/poetry-collections/saffron-jack The Craft, essay anthology: https://ninearchespress.com/publications/poetry-collections/the-craft Poems from Malika’s Poetry Kitchen: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/too-young-too-loud-too-different-poems-from-malika-s-poetry-kitchen-malika-s-poetry-kitchen/5b6dd2106fdcc93a You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/thepoemswemade    We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk     Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Lewis Buxton about how to be a good performer of poems, writing sonnets and how to build an audience.Lewis Buxton is a writer, theatre maker and co-director of TOAST. His books include Boys in Various Poses (published by Nine Arches Press) and Mate Arias (published by Emma Press). He toured his debut theatre show ‘Workout!’ and toured FRIEND in 2024. You can buy Lewis’ book Mate Arias here: https://theemmapress.com/shop/poetry/pamphlets/mate-arias/  And you can buy Boys in Various Poses here: https://ninearchespress.com/publications/poetry-collections/boy-in-various-poses You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/thepoemswemade   We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Katie Hale about museums, traveling to the Antarctic and the importance of mentoring/being mentored.Katie Hale is a poet, novelist and mentor. She won the Northern Debut Award for her poetry collection, White Ghosts and has published two novels: The Edge of Solitude and My Name is Monster. Katie also mentors young writers through The Writing Squad.  You can buy Katie’s book White Ghosts here: https://www.samreadbooks.co.uk/product/pre-order-katie-hale-white-ghosts/11714 And you can buy The Edge of Solitude here: https://www.samreadbooks.co.uk/product/pre-order-katie-hale-the-edge-of-solitude-signed-/13007 You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/thepoemswemade  We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Luke Kennard about the importance of funding small presses, outrunning the inner critic and his obsession with sitcoms. Luke Kennard is a multi award-winning poet for collections including Notes on the Sonnets. His forthcoming collection The Book of Jonah is published by Picador. He is Professor of Creative Writing at University of Birmingham.You can buy Luke’s most recent book The Book of Jonah here: https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/luke-kennard/the-book-of-jonah/9781035069262 You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/thepoemswemadeWe’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Deryn Rees-Jones about silence, Posthuman feminism and how place effects the way you write.Deryn Rees-Jones is author of several books of poetry including Hôtel Amour, Erato and What It’s Like To Be Alive, all published by Seren. She is also a professor of Poetry at University of Liverpool and editor of the Pavilion Poetry list.You can buy Deryn’s most recent book Hôtel Armour here: https://www.serenbooks.com/book/hotel-amour/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/thepoemswemade We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.We talked a fair amount about Rosi Braidotti’s Posthuman Feminism, if you interested in finding out more you can do so here: https://rosibraidotti.com/publications/2239/ Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Anthony Anaxagorou about the myth of inspiration, cinematic writing and maximalism in poetry.Anthony Anaxagorou has written numerous collections including Heritage Aesthetics and After the Formalities (published by Granta Books and Penned in the Margins respectively). Anthony is artistic director of Out-Spoken, a monthly poetry and music night held at London’s Southbank Centre, and publisher of Out-Spoken Press. In 2023 he was elected as a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature.***Haia Mohammed’s fundraiser: https://www.gofundme.com/f/gaza-emergency-haia-and-family?lid=sc2q43jcnq4&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAafY6LnM05WyVGeoI1Z3KQxA9PPUhy6XXzCW6C7_ZQGamBO0AaZoEHEc_6_nGQ_aem_XEPtXGqBQrv2yfCXcT79vgOut-Spoken Press’ Letter to MP template – Gazan Student Visa Biometrics Deferral: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14S23OHv-vhzWKM8GWertXFka324efYKp6sP09_Oak8c/edit?tab=t.0 You can also email your MP through this website: https://newscord.org/action/gaza-studentsYou can also donate to Medical Aid for Palestinians here: https://www.map.org.uk/?form=FUNFXHDCJPK ***You can buy Anthony’s most recent book Heritage Aesthetic here: https://anthonyanaxagorou.com/heritage-aestheticsYou can also check out the Out-Spoken Press shop here: https://www.outspokenldn.com/pressYou can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/thepoemswemadeWe’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Daniel Sluman about the importance of time to the writing process, the influence of music on his work and the poetics of disability.Daniel Sluman has written numerous collections including Single Window, The Terrible and Absence has a weight of its own. In 2021 Daniel was nominated for the T.S. Elliot award. He also was the co-editor of the first major UK Disability poetry anthology Stairs and Whispers: D/deaf and Disabled Poets.You can buy Daniel’s most recent book Single Window here: https://ninearchespress.com/publications/poetry-collections/single-windowYou can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/thepoemswemade We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Mimi Khalvati about The Poetry School, syntax in poems and the role listening plays in writing. Mimi Khalvati is a poet who received the King’s Gold Medal for Poetry in 2023. In 2024 her Collected Poems were published by Carcanet, which later won the Jhalak Poetry Prize. Mimi was one of the co-founders of The Poetry School. You can buy Mimi’s Collected Poems here: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781800173330/collected-poems/ (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way, Gregory Kearns speaks to Rachael Allen about The Minack Theatre’s creator Rowena Cade, the myth of filler poems and surrealism.Rachael Allen is a poet and editor. Her books Kingdomland and God Complex have been published by Faber and Faber. The latter shortlisted for the Forward Prize and longlisted for the Laurel Prize. She was the recipient of a Northern Writers' Award and an Eric Gregory Award. Rachael was the poetry editor for Granta and now is the poetry editor at Fitzcarraldo Editions.You can buy Rachael’s most recent collection God Complex here: https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571379910-god-complex/You can buy Kingdomland here: https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571341115-kingdomland/(We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram. You can find us @thepoemswemade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Jacob Polley about writers who influenced him from his hometown Carlisle, riddles and Wilfred OwenJacob Polley is a poet and Professor of Creative Writing at the University of Newcastle. He has published 5 collections of poetry and a novel called Talk of the Town. His collection, Jackself won the 2016 T.S. Eliot Prize. You can buy Jacob’s most recent collection Material Properties here: https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/jacob-polley/material-properties/9781035000081 You can buy Jackself here: https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/jacob-polley/jackself/9781447290445 (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Photo of Jacob Polley that we use was taken by Ian Fenton.Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @thepoemswemade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Sandeep Parmar about the Ledbury Critics Scheme, racism in the British poetry world and the drafting process.Sandeep Parmar is a poet and Professor of English literature at the University of Liverpool. She has published a broad range of books from her poetry collections to her critical work, including her exploration of the work of Mina Loy. In the episode we talked about Sandeep’s essay Not a British Subject, and her follow up, Still Not a British Subject.You can read Not a British Subject here: https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/not-a-british-subject-race-and-poetry-in-the-uk/ You can read Still Not a British Subject here: https://poetry.openlibhums.org/article/id/3384/ You can buy Faust here: https://www.poetrybooks.co.uk/products/faust-by-sandeep-parmar-pre-order-b-br-pbs-autumn-choice-2022-b?srsltid=AfmBOop_DOJ3gjqjyxXQ7vDr6T8OMyK0jUKKI4RZsMw0BjWGZpM90465 You can buy The Marble Orchard here: https://www.shearsman.com/store/Sandeep-Parmar-The-Marble-Orchard-p102839006 (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @thepoemswemade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Rachel Mann about negative space, counter factuals and the etymology of a few religious words. Rachel Mann is a poet and is the Archdeacon of Bolton and Salford. She has authored several books spanning poetry, non-fiction and fiction. Her theological texts include Do Not Be Afraid, Dazzling Darkness and her novel is called The Gospel of Eve. Her most recent collection of poetry, Eleanor Among the Saints was shortlisted for the T.S. Eliot Prize.You can buy Eleanor Among the Saints here: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781800173811/eleanor-among-the-saints/ You can buy A Kingdon of Love here: https://www.carcanet.co.uk/9781784108571/a-kingdom-of-love/ (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @thepoemswemade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory Kearns speaks to Steve Ely about feral poetics, Ted Hughes and Yorkshire Arts Circus.Steve Ely is a poet and Senior Lecturer in Creative Writing at the University of Huddersfield. He has published numerous collections including Oswald’s Book of Hours, Englaland and Eely. He also has published a novel, Ratmen and ran the Ted Hughes Network. You can buy Steve Ely’s collaborative book with photographer Michael Faint here: https://www.brokensleepbooks.com/product-page/steve-ely-michael-faint-orasaighYou can buy Steve’s book Eely from Longbarrow Press here: https://longbarrowpress.com/current-publications/steve-ely/(We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @thepoemswemade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory chats to Betty Doyle about Sylvia Plath, Tarot cards and some short words on Taylor Swift.Betty Doyle is a poet from Liverpool. She completed a PhD at Manchester Metropolitan University on the poetics of infertility. Betty has published pamphlets with both Verve Poetry Press and Seren. You can buy Betty’s most recent pamphlet Fruits of Labour here: https://www.serenbooks.com/book/fruits-of-labour/ You can buy Betty’s pamphlet Girl Parts here: https://vervepoetrypress.com/product/betty-doyle-girl-parts-pre-order-free-uk-pp-due-mar-22/?v=79cba1185463 (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @thepoemswemade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory chats to Wendy Allen about Barbara Hepworth, collaborative writing and inventing forms.Wendy Allen is a poet and ex-cabin crew member for 20 years. She is currently working on her PhD at Manchester Writing School. She has three pamphlets published and one forth coming. She often works collaboratively including with poets Charley Barnes and Galia Admoni. Can you pre-order Wendy’s most recent pamphlet (Collab with Galia Admoni) here: https://www.salopress.com/store/art-sundays/ You can buy Wendy’s pamphlet Portrait in Mustard here: https://www.serenbooks.com/book/portrait-in-mustard/ You can buy Wendy’s pamphlet Plastic Tubed Bird here: https://www.brokensleepbooks.com/product-page/wendy-allen-plastic-tubed-little-birdYou can buy Wendy’s pamphlet Freebleeding (collab with Charley Barnes) here: https://www.brokensleepbooks.com/product-page/wendy-allen-charley-barnes-freebleeding(We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @thepoemswemade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Part Two:On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats to Jacob Sam-La Rose about inventing forms, computational poetics and how Jacob approaches structuring poems.You can buy Jacob’s book here: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/breaking-silence-1010 For more information about The Barbican Young Poets: https://www.barbican.org.uk/take-part/young-creatives/barbican-young-poets(We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram and tagging us. You can find us @thepoemswemade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Part One: On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats to Jacob Sam-La Rose about Urban Poets Society, being an editor and starting Barbican Young Poets.Jacob Sam-La Rose is a poet, editor and facilitator based in London. His collection Breaking Slience was published by Bloodaxe. He established and leads Barbican Young Poets – a literary development programme. You can buy Jacob’s book here: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/breaking-silence-1010  For more information about The Barbican Young Poets: https://www.barbican.org.uk/take-part/young-creatives/barbican-young-poets (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram and tagging us. You can find us @thepoemswemade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats to Hera Lindsay Bird about children’s literature, writing long poems and her fandom of the writer Mark Leidner.Hera Lindsay Bird is a writer based in New Zealand. She has published two books including her self-titled debut collection Hera Lindsay Bird and her pamphlet Pamper Me to Hell & Back was a Laureate’s choice. She has won awards including the Jessie Mackay Best First Book Award and has been profiled in VICE, The Guardian and other publications too. She regularly writes an agony aunt column for The Spinoff. You can buy Hera’s book here: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/307929/hera-lindsay-bird-by-bird-hera-lindsay/9780141987408You can buy Hera’s pamphlet here: https://poetrybusiness.co.uk/product/pamper-me-to-hell-and-back/ (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Here is Hera’s advice column for The Spinoff: https://thespinoff.co.nz/authors/hera-bird Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @PoemsWMATW.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats to Liz Berry about Zines, vernacular poetry and the importance of libraries.Liz Berry is a poet based in Birmingham  who has published numerous books including Black Country, The Republic of Motherhood and The Home Child. Liz has won numerous awards including the Geoffrey Faber Memorial Prize, The Writers’ Prize and won two Forward Prizes.You can buy Black Country here: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/419006/black-country-by-liz-berry/9780701188573You can buy The Home Child here: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/438568/the-home-child-by-berry-liz/9781529937817 (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram and tag us. You can find us @PoemsWMATW.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats with Roger Robinson about creative citizenship, travelling the UK and writing haikus.Roger Robinson is a writer and educator who has published numerous books including his T.S. Eliot Prize winning collection A Portable Paradise. Roger also has published digital resources to support people to become better poets and to help “make creative blocks obsolete”.You can buy Home Is Not A Place here: https://rogerrobinsononline.com/home-is-not-a-place/ You can buy A Portable Paradise here: https://rogerrobinsononline.com/a-portable-paradise/ You can buy On Poetry, On Creativity bundle here: https://rogerrobinsononline.com/on-poetry-on-creativity/ Roger mentioned the Palestinian poet Taha Muhummed Ali. You can buy his book here: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/so-what-888The particular poem of Ali’s that Roger mentioned called Revenge can be read here: https://www.lionsroar.com/about-a-poem-ruth-ozeki-on-tahamuhammad-alis-revenge/You can buy Mosab Abu Toha’s most recent book here: https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/forest-of-noise-mosab-abu-toha?utm_campaign=buy_button&utm_medium=hcwpnetwork&utm_source=www.4thestate.co.uk&variant=41658362560590You can buy Mohammed El-Kurd’s most recent book here: https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/1744-rifqaLink to MAP (Medical Aid for Palestinians): https://www.map.org.uk/Link to a guide published by BDS: https://bdsmovement.net/Guide-to-BDS-Boycott  Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMadeMake sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats with Helen Mort about writing rhymes, how to find permission and how to get good at metre.Helen Mort is a writer based in Sheffield. Back in 2015 she was chosen as one of the Next Generation poets and has won numerous awards including the Eric Gregory Award in 2007. Helen’s most recent publication Dad Vs. Dad from Verse Poetry Press explores the aftermath of her father’s stroke through a combination of lyric and erasure poetry.You can buy Dad vs Dad here: https://vervepoetrypress.com/product/helen-mort-dad-vs-dad/?v=79cba1185463 You can buy The Illustrated Woman here: https://www.poetrybooks.co.uk/products/the-illustrated-woman-by-helen-mort-pre-order  Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMadeMake sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats with Ella Frears about the need for deadlines, sending work to friends and how to get good at metre.Ella Frears is a poet and artist based in London. She has been shortlisted for prizes like The Forward Prize for Best First Collection and the T.S. Eliot Prize. Ella’s most recent book, Goodlord is published by Rough Trade Books and is a book that defies form definition, a vortex of novel, long poem and email. You can buy Goodlord here: https://roughtradebooks.com/products/goodlord-an-email-ella-frearsYou can buy Shine, Darling here: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/shine-darling-ella-frears/3082167?ean=9781916015920 Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMadeMake sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats with Stevie Ronnie about developing voice, unpicking what a poem is, and the similarities between visual art and poetry.Stevie Ronnie is an interdisciplinary artist and writer based in Northumberland. He was longlisted for the John Moores Prize for his piece called Thirty Hours or So of Being Awake. Stevie works with The Writing Squad as one of their mentors to young writers.  You can check out more of Stevie Ronnie’s work can be found at his website here: stevieronnie.comThe project he worked on based on his trip to the artic can be found here: https://stevieronnie.com/the-arctic-was-a-poem-twisted-into-rope-2The poem Stevie wrote called I Dream of Canute (& the Sea is Rising) can be found here: https://stevieronnie.com/i-dream-of-canute-the-sea-is-rising-2Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMadeMake sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats with Charlotte Shevchenko Knight about her sad girl Tumblr phase, which is better poetry or prose, and railcards for poets.Charlotte Shevchenko Knight is a poet based in York and her collection Food for the Dead was published by Jonathan Cape in 2024. Charlotte has gone on to win the Laurel Prize for first collection, and has been shortlisted for the Felix Dennis prize for best first collection amongst other prizes.You can buy Charlotte’s book here: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/food-for-the-dead-a-masterpiece-olia-hercules-charlotte-shevchenko-knight/7607613?ean=9781787334892 (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMadeMake sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats to Mark Pajak about Seamus Heaney, dyslexia and how to build imagery in poetry.Mark is a poet based in Liverpool and had his debut collection Slide published by Jonathan Cape. He has received a Northern Writers’ Award, a Society of Authors’ Grant, an Eric Gregory Award and an UNESCO international writing residency. Mark is a lecturer at The Open University. You can buy Mark’s book here: uk.bookshop.org/p/books/slide-mark-pajak/6881991?ean=9781787330313 Mark spoke about Seamus Heaney’s poem Lightening VIII which can be read here: www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/1995/8424-poetry-1995-2 (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats to Helen Tookey about stanza construction, Wittgenstein and what it is like to teach poetry.Helen is a poet based in Liverpool who has published three collections with Carcanet, most recently In the Quaker Hotel. She has been shortlisted for the Seamus Heaney Prize for Best First Collection and the Forward Prize. Helen is a Senior Lecturer at Liverpool John Moores University where, amongst other achievements she tutored Gregory during his undergraduate degree.You can buy Helen’s book here: www.carcanet.co.uk/cgi-bin/indexer?product=9781800171824(We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats to Andrew McMillan about sonnets, what counts as a tour and what it's like to move from poetry to prose writing.Andrew McMillan has published three collections of poetry and his first novel, Pity, was published this year by Canongate. His first collection Physical was the first poetry collection to win the Guardian First Book Award and his subsequent books have all received critical acclaim. Andrew is a professor in contemporary writing at Manchester Metropolitan University. Andrew was one of Gregory’s lecturers during his undergraduate degree at Liverpool John Moores University.You can buy Andrew’s most recent poetry collection Pandemonium here: www.poetrybookshop.co.uk/product/pandemonium-2/You can buy Andrew’s most recent book, his debut novel Pity here: www.gaystheword.co.uk/product-page/pity-by-andrew-mcmillan(We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Please give the show a five star rating on whatever podcasting app you are listening to this on.Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along The Way Gregory chats to Joe Carrick-Varty about writing based on real experiences, being an editor and his debut collection More Sky. Joe Carrick-Varty is a poet based in London whose collection More Sky was published by Carcanet and was shortlisted for the TS Elliot Prize. Joe was a founder and editor for the online poetry journal Bath Magg.You can buy Joe’s book here: www.carcanet.co.uk/cgi-bin/indexer?product=2453You can read the back catalogue of issues of Bath Magg here: www.bathmagg.com/ (We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well.)Tell us what you thought of this episode by posting on Instagram or Twitter and tagging us. You can find us @ThePoemsWeMade.Make sure you don’t miss future conversations by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it.Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: joecm.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.