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The Rock Bottom Podcast
by Patrick Sullivan Jr. & Ashley Leroux
Welcome to The Rock Bottom Podcast presented by Jigsaw Health—where we share health horror stories that inspire.Each episode, we explore raw, unfiltered journeys of survival—experiences that will inspire, educate, and remind you that no matter how low you feel, there’s always a way up
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Biophotons & The Future of Healing: Gary Kiss | Ep31
Gary Kiss looked healthy on the outside, but internally, something felt deeply wrong. In his late 30s, he was struggling with severe insomnia, relentless mind chatter, relationship challenges, and a persistent feeling of emptiness. When the pandemic forced him to spend more time alone with his thoughts, things intensified. His blood pressure eventually reached 238/190, and he was warned that he was a "walking stroke." Despite his background in IV nutraceuticals and access to numerous health interventions, nothing seemed to provide lasting relief.Gary’s journey took an unexpected turn when he began meditating and experienced improvements in his sleep, mind chatter, and overall well-being. That experience led him deeper into questions about the relationship between the mind, energy, and physical health. Through his work around stem cells and live blood cell microscopy, Gary became fascinated by biophotons and the role he believes light plays in cellular communication. Today, he is the co-creator of ELUUMIS and BioHealing Stream, technologies built around his theories and experiences with biophotonic energy.In this episode, Gary shares his unconventional journey from insomnia and extreme hypertension to meditation, biophotons, and what he calls the "missing link" between chemistry, energy, and health.Gary Kiss / ELUUMISWebsite: https://www.eluumis.com/BioHealing Stream: https://biohealing.stream/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eluumis_official/Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:23 Podcast Intro: Gary Kiss’s Story01:17 Interview Begins: Welcome Gary Kiss02:30 Gary’s “Quantum Illness”03:44 The Emptiness Behind a Healthy Exterior04:17 Extreme Insomnia & Mind Chatter06:54 The Pandemic Forced Him to Face Himself08:08 The “Million Voices” in His Head09:30 Trying Everything to Fix His Sleep11:16 “Gary, You’re a Walking Stroke”11:43 Blood Pressure of 238/19014:27 Why Sleep Became the Foundation15:31 Discovering Meditation19:05 What He Saw Under the Microscope20:30 Discovering Biophotons23:59 “Signal Dictates Our Chemistry”26:25 Where Does a Biophoton Come From?29:56 Could You Harness Biophotons?32:09 The Experience That Changed Gary’s Mind36:12 Asking for Help on a Mountaintop40:01 The Beginning of ELUUMIS43:37 Putting Biophotons Under the Microscope46:04 What Happened to the Blood Cells?53:49 How BioHealing Stream Works57:40 Where to Find Gary & ELUUMIS01:02:40 Rock Bottom Score: “I Was a Two”01:03:41 Life Today: Seven or EightPresented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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Thyroid & Hormone Health: Dr. Amie Hornaman | Ep30
Dr. Amie Hornaman, better known as “The Thyroid Fixer,” was in her early 20s and competing in fitness shows when her body suddenly stopped responding the way it always had. Despite a strict diet and working out twice a day, she rapidly gained around 40 pounds. She went to six different doctors searching for answers, only to repeatedly hear that her labs were “normal,” she was “fine,” and she simply needed to eat less and exercise more.After finally being diagnosed with hypothyroidism, Amie thought she had found the answer, but the medication she was prescribed did nothing. Her search for a different approach ultimately changed the course of her career and led her to become “The Thyroid Fixer.” Years later, she faced another rock bottom when abnormal cells progressed to stage one uterine cancer. In this episode, Amie opens up about hypothyroidism, medical gaslighting, thyroid testing, hormone therapy, her hysterectomy, the fear of cancer returning, and why patients need to advocate for their own health.Dr. Amie HornamanWebsite: https://dramiehornaman.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dramiehornamanDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:23 Podcast Intro: Dr. Amie’s Story01:10 Interview Begins02:07 Growing Up Struggling With Weight03:45 Entering the Fitness World04:33 Preparing for a National Competition05:10 “You’re Normal, Everything Is Fine”05:29 Six Doctors & No Answers05:50 Hitting Rock Bottom06:40 Gaining 40 Pounds in Six Months07:16 Being Medically Gaslit08:01 “You Know When Something Is Wrong”08:38 Doctor #7 Checks Her Thyroid09:17 Diagnosed With Hypothyroidism09:43 The Medication That Did Nothing11:07 Looking Outside Conventional Medicine11:55 Finding the Practitioner Who Changed Her Life13:02 T3 vs. T4 Thyroid Hormones16:25 Understanding Reverse T318:57 The Thyroid Test Dr. Amie Says to Ask For20:18 Why the Thyroid Affects the Entire Body23:00 Finding the Treatment That Worked for Her25:36 Blood Work vs. DUTCH Testing26:45 Why She Wrote The Thyroid Fix29:31 Dr. Amie’s Uterine Cancer Story31:45 “You Lost the Bet. It Changed to Cancer.”32:02 Catching Cancer at Stage One33:02 Deciding to Have a Hysterectomy33:38 When a Health Advocate Gets Cancer34:02 The Fear of Cancer Returning36:22 Getting the Cancer Diagnosis Call38:46 What Medical Gaslighting Looks Like40:27 When Patients Start Blaming Themselves43:35 Finding the Right Thyroid Practitioner47:00 Rock Bottom Score: “I Was a Two”49:02 Life Now: “I’m a 9 or 10”Presented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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OCD, Chronic Stress & The Vagus Nerve: Jon Hacker | Ep28
Jon Hacker was just 11 years old when severe OCD made everyday life feel impossible. He hid his struggles from everyone, including his own twin brother, while growing up in a stressful home marked by financial hardship, bullying, and his father's battle with alcoholism. Desperate to understand what was happening inside his mind, Jon became obsessed with the nervous system, eventually transforming his own recovery into a mission to help others better regulate stress and improve mental wellness through innovative vagus nerve technology.In this episode, Jon shares how chronic stress changes the way we experience reality, why modern life keeps so many of us stuck in fight-or-flight mode, and why he believes your brain sees every email, text, and notification as another "tiger" to survive. We also explore the science behind the vagus nerve, practical ways to support your nervous system, and the journey that led Jon to create Zen Bud.Jon HackerWebsite: https://zenbud.healthInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/zenbudhealthLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-hackerDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:22 Podcast Intro: Jon Hacker's Story01:06 Interview Begins: Welcome Jon Hacker01:40 Severe OCD at 11 Years Old03:09 What OCD Actually Looked Like03:33 Childhood Stress, Bullying & Family Struggles06:44 Hiding OCD From Everyone, Even His Twin Brother07:21 The Nervous System Obsession That Changed Everything11:09 The Practice That Helped Him Overcome OCD13:46 Discovering the Vagus Nerve14:52 Why the Vagus Nerve Is Your Stress "Off Switch"16:03 How Chronic Stress Changes Your Reality17:49 Why Your Brain Thinks Every Email Is a Tiger19:53 Natural Ways to Stimulate the Vagus Nerve21:49 The Story Behind Zen Bud26:25 What the Vagus Nerve Actually Does29:07 Can It Help You Sleep?30:42 Measuring Stress & HRV Improvements31:52 Are We More Stressed Than Cavemen?35:27 Why "Your Attention Is the Product"37:27 Can Kids Benefit From Vagus Nerve Therapy?39:15 How Zen Bud Changed Jon's Life40:17 Jon's Thoughts on Neuralink47:05 Rock Bottom Score: "I Was a One"47:26 Life Today & OCD Recovery48:27 The Book Jon Wants to Write49:00 Where to Find Jon HackerPresented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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Mold Illness, Hashimoto's, & Unexplained Symptoms: Jenn Malecha | Ep27
As a functional health practitioner, Jenn Malecha followed a clean diet, exercised regularly, took high-quality supplements, and lived what most people would consider a healthy lifestyle. Yet despite all of that, her health started to decline. She gained 15 pounds without explanation, developed cystic acne, experienced night sweats, and eventually woke up one morning with severe breast inflammation that left her terrified she might have cancer.Specialists offered few answers. Some suggested hormones. Others told her to simply monitor the symptoms. None could explain why her body seemed to be falling apart.The answer was hiding just a few feet away.After years of unexplained symptoms, Jenn discovered toxic black mold growing in the ceiling of her home office. The room where she spent most of her workday had been exposing her to mold for years. Looking back, she realized her dog had actually shown signs of illness before she did, becoming what she now calls the "canary in the coal mine."In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Jenn shares how mold exposure affected her hormones, thyroid, nervous system, detox pathways, and overall health. She explains why many people feel stuck despite doing all the right things, how environmental toxins can create symptoms that often go overlooked, and the steps she took to reclaim her health.Jenn MalechaWebsite: https://www.wholistichealthboss.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/wholistichealthbossPodcast: The Wholistic Health Boss PodcastDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.**Chapters**00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:22 Podcast Intro: Jenn's Story01:07 Interview Begins: Welcome Jenn Malecha01:28 Doing Everything Right... And Getting Worse02:14 The Health Scare That Changed Everything04:31 Discovering Black Mold In Her Home Office05:24 When Your Dog Becomes The Canary In The Coal Mine08:28 The Lightbulb Moment10:14 Testing For Mold Exposure14:40 How Mold Impacts Hormones, Weight & Health18:43 Why Mold Affects Everyone Differently20:11 Environmental Toxins & Root Cause Health24:20 How Jenn Detoxed From Mold25:17 Reversing Hashimoto's In Six Months26:29 Understanding Detox Pathways30:09 Why Most People Aren't Pooping Enough34:50 How Long Recovery Actually Took36:50 The Mold Remediation Process39:03 Mold Exposure... Again41:16 The Test That Found Hidden Mold44:17 Mold In Coffee, Nuts & Food51:30 EMFs, Wi-Fi & Environmental Stressors58:05 Why Jeremy Didn't Have The Same Symptoms01:00:40 Why Mold Testing Should Be Standard Practice01:02:48 The Best Mold Test To Use01:03:44 "Making The Impossible Possible"01:04:14 Rock Bottom Score: "I Was A Three"01:04:41 Life Today: "I'm At A Seven"Presented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast:https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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The Gene That Explained His Health Problems: Jeremy Malecha | Ep26
Jeremy Malecha spent years doing everything he thought was right. He exercised regularly, ate organic and gluten-free, tracked his health obsessively, and followed expert advice. Yet despite his efforts, he continued to gain weight, struggle with chronic back pain, and watch his health markers move in the wrong direction.Everything changed when genetic and lab testing uncovered the root causes of his inflammation. In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Jeremy shares how discovering a BRCA gene mutation, hormone imbalances, and food sensitivities helped him lose 40 pounds, eliminate chronic back pain, and build a company dedicated to helping practitioners deliver more personalized healthcare.Today’s Guest: Jeremy MalechaWebsite: https://www.biocanic.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/biocanicDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:23 Podcast Intro: Jeremy's Story01:06 Interview Begins: Welcome Jeremy Malecha02:40 The Worst Day Of His Life04:49 Doing Everything Right But Getting Worse05:31 The Question That Changed Everything06:34 The BRCA Gene & Estrogen Dominance09:43 Losing 40 Pounds In Three Months10:57 Why His Back Pain Disappeared11:32 The Testing That Revealed The Root Cause15:15 Function Health, Superpower & Lab Testing18:03 AI, Healthcare & Human Connection22:37 Understanding MTHFR & COMT30:59 Food Sensitivity Testing & Beef Reactions34:28 Why Food In Europe Feels Different35:29 Mold, Mycotoxins & The American Food Supply40:01 The Joe Rogan Effect & Taking Control Of Your Health41:22 Building Biocanic45:27 Finding The Right Practitioner47:03 Where To Find JeremyPresented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast:https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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From Stroke Survivor to NBA Mindset Coach: Coach Dar | Ep25
Coach Dar was just 25 years old when a chiropractic neck adjustment led to a stroke that changed the course of her life. One moment she was treating traumatic brain injury and stroke patients at a world-renowned hospital — the next, she became the patient herself. Doctors told her she could die at any moment if the blood clot in her brain dislodged. She was warned not to run, not to get pregnant, and to completely rethink the future she had planned for herself.What followed were decades of rebuilding through chronic health struggles, emotional isolation, multiple strokes, and an intense drive to prove herself through work. Along the way, she became a healthcare executive and eventually found herself coaching elite athletes and executives at the highest levels of performance, including players within the Phoenix Suns organization.In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Coach Dar shares the terrifying details of her first stroke, what it felt like to believe she was watching herself die during her third stroke, and how those experiences shaped her philosophy on resilience, adversity, leadership, and purpose. She also opens up about the emotional toll of being told she could never have children, the failures she witnessed inside the healthcare system, and why people must become advocates for their own health.Coach DarWebsite: https://www.coachdar.comLinktree: linktr.ee/thecoachdarCoach Dar's Book: a.co/d/eeOhKTlDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:22 Podcast Intro: Coach Dar’s Story01:06 Interview Begins: Welcome Coach Dar02:15 The Chiropractic Adjustment That Changed Everything03:24 Misdiagnosed Stroke & Torn Artery05:27 “You Could Die Any Day”08:02 Becoming a Healthcare Executive at 2810:33 How She Started Coaching Elite Athletes11:02 “I’ve Had Three Strokes Now”14:16 The Third Stroke & “Watching Myself Die”16:56 “When You Ask for Easy, You’re Almost Flatlining”19:44 Did Mindset Push Her Too Far?23:05 Living With the Fear of Another Stroke26:03 The Emotional Cost of Being Told She Couldn’t Have Kids29:06 Why You Must Advocate for Yourself in Healthcare31:58 Dr. Donese Worden at the Hospital33:28 Rebuilding Her Brain After Stroke35:13 Fighting Insurance & Hospital Billing40:40 Her Daily Self-Care & Recovery Routine43:39 “Have a Friend for Every Decade”45:16 Rock Bottom Score: “I was at a one”46:46 The Blackberry Message That Changed Her Life48:22 Life Now: “I’m at an eight or nine”Presented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast:https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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Life with Stage 4 Endometriosis: Ashley Banek | Ep24
After stopping birth control in her early 30s, Ashley Banek expected life to feel more natural and connected to her body. Instead, she began experiencing debilitating cycles, severe pain, vomiting, exhaustion, and symptoms so extreme they left her curled up on the bathroom floor for days at a time. Despite repeated attempts to get help, she says many medical professionals minimized her pain, dismissed her concerns, and pushed solutions that didn’t address the root issue.What followed was years of confusion, misdiagnosis, emergency situations, and major decisions about her future fertility. Ashley eventually discovered she had severe endometriosis that had spread extensively throughout her body, leading to a nine-hour surgery, conversations about organ removal, and the realization that she would need to become her own advocate inside a fragmented healthcare system.In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Ashley shares the emotional and physical toll of living with chronic illness, the fear and uncertainty surrounding endometriosis, and the long process of finding doctors who truly listened. She also opens up about how her experience inspired her to found Samara Health, a company focused on helping women navigate complex medical challenges with advocacy, support, and personalized care.Featured Guest:Ashley BanekFounder of Samara HealthWebsite: https://www.samarahealth.comInstagram: @ashleybanekSamara Health Instagram: @samarahealthDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:23 Podcast Intro: Ashley Banek’s Story01:16 Interview Begins: Welcome Ashley02:00 Going Off Birth Control & Early Symptoms06:44 Cycles Become Debilitating12:14 “Pain Was 10 Out of 10”18:43 Medical Dismissal & Fighting to Be Heard27:08 Emergency Health Complications Begin41:37 Searching for a Surgeon Who Would Preserve Her Organs42:38 Endometriosis & The Hysterectomy Conversation58:10 The Emotional Toll of Chronic Illness01:10:42 Becoming Her Own Advocate01:29:19 Founding Samara Health01:38:27 Rock Bottom Score: “Negative Hundreds”01:38:48 Life Now: “I’m a Nine or a Ten”01:40:08 Final Thoughts & EncouragementPresented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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From Rock Producer to Healing Music: Barry Goldstein | Ep23
Barry Goldstein spent years chasing his dream career in music. He became a Grammy-winning producer, worked with legends like Les Paul, and built a successful career in the music industry. But behind the scenes, the pressure of deadlines, nonstop studio sessions, anxiety, and burnout slowly turned the thing he loved most into something painful.In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Barry shares the moment everything shifted. After reaching a breaking point in the late 90s, he began experimenting with music in a completely different way, slowing his heart rate to 60 beats per minute and creating long-form soundscapes designed to quiet the analytical mind. What started as a personal experiment eventually evolved into decades of work exploring music, meditation, coherence, and healing.Barry explains how those early experiments led to collaborations with Dr. Joe Dispenza, Neale Donald Walsch, and others, along with live meditation events attended by thousands of people around the world. He also dives into the science behind music and brainwaves, “heart coherence,” creativity, stress, sleep, emotional regulation, and why he believes music can become a powerful tool for healing.The conversation also explores AI in music, improvisation and intuition, how creativity gets “unlearned” as we age, and Barry’s newest project: creating music-based emotional regulation tools for children.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:23 Podcast Intro: Barry Goldstein’s Story01:23 Interview Begins: Welcome Barry03:43 When Music Became “Painful”06:08 Discovering 60 BPM & Heart Coherence07:20 “What If I Just Let The Music Flow Through Me?”09:01 Music, Anxiety & Sleep Healing12:20 The Four Body System Explained14:48 Heart Coherence & “The Zone”16:38 “My Pleasure Had Become My Poison”20:10 Composing Music From Intuition23:05 The Science of Entrainment28:11 Music As Medicine (“Acousticeuticals”)31:27 Music, Grief & Emotional Healing34:38 Barry’s Weight Loss & Health Journey37:18 Bringing Healing Music Into Pop Culture42:04 Touring With Dr. Joe Dispenza46:26 Creating Coherence In Live Audiences50:15 Improvisation, Pressure & Performance52:01 The “Wizard of Oz Voice” Conversation58:05 Scoring Meditation Like Film01:01:16 Barry’s Kids Emotional-Regulation Project01:05:27 AI & The Future of MusicPresented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast:https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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Patient Advocacy & Life-Saving Questions: Dr. Donese Worden | Ep22
Dr. Denise Worden already understood the importance of patient advocacy, but one hospital experience made it impossible to ignore just how critical it is.While advocating for her 92-year-old father in the hospital, she caught seven critical mistakes that could have cost him his life. Medications that had been discontinued were about to be administered. Vital details were missing from his chart. And in just 30 minutes away from his bedside, something went wrong.In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Dr. Worden shares her journey from early-career betrayal and a lawsuit that shook her trust, to becoming a fierce advocate for patients navigating a complex and often overwhelmed healthcare system. She introduces her philosophy of “Dare to Doubt,” a call to trust your intuition, ask better questions, and take an active role in your care.From real hospital scenarios to practical ways you can protect yourself or a loved one, this conversation is a powerful reminder: sometimes the most important voice in the room is yours.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode 00:23 Podcast Intro: Dr. Denise Worden01:07 Interview Begins02:54 Perspective from Treating Serious Illness04:05 “Dare to Doubt” and Her Mother’s Story06:20 Advocating for Her 92-Year-Old Father07:03 The 7 Mistakes That Could Have Been Fatal07:43 How Medical Errors Actually Happen09:23 How to Speak Up and Ask the Right Questions11:30 Practical Patient Advocacy Tips16:20 Learning to Trust Your Intuition20:02 Applying This to Cancer and Treatment Decisions30:48 What Actually Matters Most for Healing48:05 Sponsor + OutroPresented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast:https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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Life with Gitelman Syndrome: Suzanne Dunn | Ep21
Suzanne Dunn was just 19 years old and pregnant when her body began shutting down. She couldn’t walk. She was crawling. Her potassium levels dropped to a life-threatening 1.3—and doctors scrambled to stabilize her without fully understanding what was happening. What followed was decades of extreme fatigue, full-body cramping, heart palpitations, and a rare diagnosis that few in the medical system recognized: Gitelman Syndrome.In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Suzanne shares her long and difficult journey through misdiagnosis, repeated ER visits, and years of treatments that never fully worked. At one point, she spent over 50 days hospitalized in a single year—stuck in a cycle of temporary relief, only to crash again days later. She describes what it feels like when your electrolytes drop so low that your body begins to fail—and how frustrating it is to know something is wrong, but not be fully understood by the people trying to help you.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:22 Podcast Intro: Suzanne Dunn’s Story01:06 Interview Begins: Welcome Suzanne01:23 What Is Gitelman Syndrome?02:12 Life-Threatening Pregnancy & First Diagnosis06:39 “I was crawling…” — Severe Symptoms Begin07:13 Heart Palpitations, Delirium, and Electrolyte Crash11:17 Magnesium Infusions & ER Reality13:00 50 Days Hospitalized & Medical Frustration14:05 The Magnesium Oxide Mistake20:20 Tracking Labs & Finding Patterns23:35 “I’m going to figure this out myself”30:01 What Rock Bottom Felt Like34:11 Rock Bottom Score: “I was at a one”41:43 Life Now: “I’m at an eight”Presented by: @JigsawHealthTVSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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Chronic Illness, Inflammation & Ayurveda | Dr. Shivani Gupta
Dr. Shivani Gupta was known as “the sick kid,” constantly battling infections and relying on antibiotics. By college, her health had deteriorated to the point where daily life felt impossible. In this episode, she shares how a breaking point led her to Ayurveda, where she rebuilt her health and now teaches others that symptoms aren’t random — they’re signals pointing to the root cause.Dr. Shivani Gupta is an Ayurvedic practitioner and turmeric researcher who helps women reduce inflammation, balance hormones, and boost energy with Elemental Design™, Mental Inflammation™ tools, and gut-forward routines. Her new book, The Inflammation Code (Hay House, February 2026), offers a clear, non-diet plan for cooling chronic inflammation. She hosts the Fusionary Health Podcast and created the Emmy-nominated TV show Vibrant Health with Dr. Shivani Gupta. More at shivanigupta.com.Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.shivaniguptaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/@TheShivaniGuptaYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dr.shivanigupta/videosPinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/theshivaniguptaWebsite: www.shivanigupta.comThe Inflammation Code book: www.theinflammationcode.com Fusionary Formulas: www.fusionaryformulas.com7-Day Inflammation Detox Challenge: https://www.7dayinflammationdetox.com/optin1641313075014Anti-Inflammatory E-Cookbook:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ItNJ1DV3XsOn5MwBbSpeTFH8o3KFu2qk/view?usp=sharingThe Inflammation Code Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-inflammation-code/id1680587836Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by: @JigsawHealthTVFollow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@therockbottom.podcastFollow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockbottom.podcast⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Intro: Welcome to the Rock Bottom Podcast01:58 – Growing Up “The Sick Kid”03:56 – Rock Bottom: Severely Ill in India04:10 – Saying No to Another Prescription05:08 – Discovering Ayurveda06:54 – A Complete Health Transformation08:17 – Bridging Eastern & Western Medicine12:52 – Inflammation: The Root of Modern Symptoms23:08 – “Tea Time is Me Time” & Nervous System Health27:11 – What Inflammation Actually Feels Like34:25 – Turmeric, Gut Health & Healing43:44 – Your Body Isn’t Broken47:50 – Where to Start Your Healing Journey
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The Female Athlete Triad, Hashimoto’s & Healing | Dr. Maddie Wagner
As a teenager and professional ballet dancer, Dr. Maddie Wagner struggled with the female athlete triad — an eating disorder, over-exercise, and losing her menstrual cycle for years. At just 17 years old, she was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s and PCOS, beginning a long and confusing journey through medications, symptoms, and searching for answers.Her real rock bottom came later — after years of treatment that left her feeling worse, multiple injuries including ACL surgery, and the realization that the conventional approach wasn’t addressing the root cause.Through diet changes, addressing gut health, stress management, and a shift in mindset, Dr. Maddie slowly rebuilt her health and ultimately became a chiropractor focused on helping others do the same.In this episode, we discuss:• The female athlete triad and why it’s so common in young athletes• Hashimoto’s and PCOS diagnoses in teenagers• Why many treatments only address symptoms• The connection between gut health and autoimmune conditions• Stress, sleep, and environmental triggers like mold• Why Maddie believes “the body doesn’t make mistakes”Featured Guest:Dr. Maddie WagnerChiropractor & Functional Health PractitionerCo-Owner, The Wellness Way – North ScottsdaleWebsite: https://thewellnesswaynorthscottsdale.comInstagram: @thewellnessway.northscottsdaleChapters0:00 Intro0:23 Maddie’s Health Story Begins1:29 Diagnosed with Hashimoto’s & PCOS at 173:22 The Female Athlete Triad Explained5:13 When Treatment Made Symptoms Worse8:56 Questioning the Diagnosis11:20 Getting Off Medication13:06 Diet Changes & Thyroid Antibodies Disappear16:14 Treating Symptoms vs Root Cause18:12 Life as a Professional Ballet Dancer19:31 ACL Injury Ends Her Dance Career22:02 Symptoms Continue in Her 20s24:07 Second Knee Surgery & Recovery26:08 Anxiety, Faith & Mental Healing29:14 What Rock Bottom Felt Like31:03 How She Rebuilt Her Health33:28 Root Causes of Thyroid Issues36:03 Stress, Gut Health & Mold Exposure37:01 Stress Management Habits39:23 Healing Gut Issues41:37 “The Body Doesn’t Make Mistakes”44:27 Why Healing Stories Matter46:00 Changing Habits & Lifestyle47:44 Where to Find Dr. Maddie WagnerPresented by: @JigsawHealthTV Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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Fit, Healthy… Still Empty? When Fitness Became an Idol: Alisa Keeton | Ep18
Alisa Keeton is the founder of Revelation Wellness, a global nonprofit equipping thousands of health and fitness professionals to pursue wholeness in body, mind, and spirit. A longtime fitness leader, author, and speaker, Alisa built a thriving career helping others transform their bodies. From the outside, she looked like the picture of health — disciplined, successful, and in control. But beneath the surface, she was carrying the weight of a turbulent upbringing, a fractured sense of identity, and a marriage that nearly ended in its first year. Fitness had become both her refuge and her idol.Her rock bottom didn’t look like collapse — it looked like success. After confronting the internal emptiness that external control couldn’t fix, Alisa began exploring a deeper integration of biology and belief. In this conversation, she shares how chronic stress reshapes the brain, why “it’s never just about the food,” and how nervous system regulation, small daily habits, and silence may support lasting change. What emerged from that journey was Revelation Wellness — a movement now spanning more than 4,000 instructors worldwide, helping people shift from chasing weight loss to gaining true health.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Featured Guest:Alisa KeetonFounder of Revelation WellnessAuthor & Fitness ProfessionalWebsite: https://www.revelationwellness.orgInstagram: @alisakeeton and @revelationwellnessCHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Without truth: obsession or neglect00:23 – Episode introduction: Alisa Keeton’s story00:45 – Medical disclaimer01:02 – Growing up watching body shame at home02:05 – Formula, processed food & the 60s health shift02:48 – Yo-yo dieting and childhood resolve03:33 – The 1985 aerobics moment at 1406:58 – Exercise as nervous system regulation09:15 – When fitness became identity10:13 – Pride, comparison & diet culture in the 80s11:16 – Early fitness career & weight loss “math”12:04 – Why people can’t stick to diets12:30 – Picture of health, marriage on the rocks17:07 – Hitting relational rock bottom18:38 – The woman at the well moment23:04 – Building Revelation Wellness33:36 – “It’s never about the food”34:36 – What workout is best for longevity?37:18 – Vanity vs ability38:22 – Why no one teaches us to listen to ourselves40:42 – Community vs isolation in healing42:32 – Chronic stress reshapes the brain44:34 – Orbitofrontal cortex & changing habits45:58 – Why extreme diets fail46:49 – Gaining health vs losing weight47:20 – Tiny habits & sustainable changePresented by: @JigsawHealthTV Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Zpj6O04BDznHju7zG8ErR?si=bc40afcbe5b145c1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rock-bottom-podcast/id1809787645Do you have a health horror story that inspires?Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8
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PANS/PANDAS, Seizures & Finding Hope: Emma Horn | Ep17
Emma Horn was 14 years old when she suddenly began having uncontrollable seizures. Her scans came back “normal.” Her bloodwork showed nothing alarming. And multiple doctors told her — and her family — that it was psychological, behavioral, or something she was “pretending.”In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Emma shares her harrowing journey through severe neurological symptoms, repeated medical dismissal, and years of living trapped inside a body she could not control. Eventually, Emma was diagnosed with PANS/PANDAS, a rare autoimmune condition that can be triggered by infections like strep and staph — even when there are no obvious symptoms.Emma opens up about what it feels like to lose speech, motor skills, memory, and identity while still being fully aware inside. She talks about medical gaslighting, misdiagnosis, insurance barriers, and the emotional toll on both patients and caregivers when answers don’t come easily. This conversation also explores the long, nonlinear road toward healing, the role of immune-based treatment approaches, and what it means to slowly reclaim your life after years of illness.This episode is for anyone who has been told their symptoms are “all in their head,” whose labs don’t explain their suffering, or who feels unseen inside the healthcare system. Emma’s story is a powerful reminder that healing sometimes begins only after someone finally listens.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapters00:00 Coming Up This Episode00:26 Podcast Intro: Emma Horn’s Health Horror Story00:52 Medical Disclaimer (Informational Only)01:06 Technical Note: First Remote Recording01:25 Interview Begins: Take Us Back to Rock Bottom02:27 First Seizure: Losing Control at Age 1402:45 Early Symptoms Before the Seizures03:40 Urgent Care After the First Seizure04:53 Given Benadryl for Seizures05:43 No Tests, No Treatment in the Hospital06:18 “This Seems Like Negligence”08:16 Sent Home While Still Seizing10:07 Arriving at the Memphis ER12:25 Scans Normal, No Clear Answers15:02 Losing Skills, Independence, and Daily Function17:56 Discovering PANS/PANDAS as an Autoimmune Cause26:40 How Healing Finally Began38:25 TrueDose PRP Therapy Explained46:19 Three Months Seizure-Free58:02 “Unknown Known Hacker” and Life After IllnessPresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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Invisible Illness & “Normal” Labs: Monica Hershaft | Ep16
Monica Hershaft is a functional health practitioner specializing in mystery illness, chronic symptoms, and conditions that don’t show up on standard lab tests. She works with people who have been told their symptoms are “normal,” unexplained, or all in their head. Before entering the health space, Monica was an actor, dancer, and lifelong athlete living in Los Angeles — until a popular, professionally supervised detox triggered a severe health collapse that left her unable to function.In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Monica shares her decade-long journey through chronic illness, normal bloodwork, and repeated medical dismissal. She opens up about living with invisible illness, the emotional impact of medical gaslighting, and how losing trust in your own body can be as damaging as the physical symptoms themselves. This conversation explores why so many people fall through the cracks of the healthcare system — and why healing often begins when someone finally listens and treats the source.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.FEATURED GUESTMonica HershaftFunctional health practitioner specializing in mystery illness & complex chronic symptomsFounder of Treat the Sourcehttps://www.treatthesource.com Instagram: @treatthesourceCHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS00:45 – The trendy detox that started everything01:54 – Early symptoms: fatigue, insomnia, palpitations, brain fog03:17 – “All my labs were normal”04:31 – Ignoring intuition vs trusting medical authority09:27 – Timeline check: Thanksgiving 2000 to Valentine’s Day 200110:39 – Being told it’s anxiety or depression18:49 – Growing up in animal-rights activism & food identity24:08 – Losing friends when illness is invisible29:51 – Detox overload, gallbladder dysfunction & auto-intoxication40:14 – When treatment made things worse42:30 – “I can’t help you if you’re vegan” (the turning point)01:11:37 – Rock bottom: zero → feeling better than everDo you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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From Frozen Shoulder to Cu-riousity: Morley Robbins | EP15
When former hospital executive Morley Robbins developed a frozen shoulder in his early 50s, the pain brought every part of his life to a halt. What followed—divorce, career loss, and reinvention—became the beginning of a completely new path.In this episode, Morley shares his journey from debilitating pain to discovering a new purpose. He discusses:The emotional storm leading up to his rock-bottom momentThe unexpected chiropractic session that changed everythingHow stress may influence minerals and energyWhy curiosity and resilience shaped the rest of his careerThe origins of the Root Cause Protocol and his lifelong research practiceFEATURED GUESTMorley Robbins (sometimes called “Magnesium Man”) is the creator and founder of The Root Cause Protocol (RCP) and the Magnesium Advocacy Group. He holds a BA in Biology (from Denison University) and an MBA in healthcare administration (from George Washington University). After decades working as a hospital executive and consultant, Robbins underwent a dramatic personal health crisis — a frozen shoulder so severe it disrupted his life. That experience prompted him to deep-dive into mineral metabolism (magnesium, copper, iron) and ultimately build the RCP as a mineral-based framework for restoring energy, balance, and long-term health. Morley’s book, “Cure Your Fatigue” now available wherever books are sold: https://cureyourfatiguebook.com The Root Cause Protocol: https://therootcauseprotocol.comThis book presents the RCP in full: how mineral imbalance (especially copper, magnesium, and iron) can underlie fatigue and chronic disease, and offers practical, research-based guidance to restore balance.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.TIMESTAMPS & CHAPTERS00:00 — Morley’s frozen shoulder brings his life to a standstill01:12 — Welcome to The Rock Bottom Podcast02:12 — Reconnecting after 15 years and the origins of RCP04:29 — Morley’s early years as a hospital executive06:29 — Consulting, mentors, and high-pressure environments08:31 — The body breaks down after years on the road09:41 — What frozen shoulder feels like and failed early solutions11:13 — A pivotal visit to an apothecary leads to chiropractic care12:26 — The adjustment that instantly lifted his arm13:35 — “The innate healer” and Morley’s shift in understanding15:10 — Stress, divorce, and the emotional collapse behind the scenes18:00 — Skydiving to clear the cobwebs and start over19:22 — Discovering magnesium and early mineral research27:18 — What stress may do to minerals and energy production34:41 — Copper, food, and how nutrition has changed51:52 — Morley’s rock-bottom score and where he is todayDo you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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Fighting Black Mold: Marina Ortega | EP14
Marina Ortega is the founder of Scottsdale Hydrotherapy, Arizona’s leading colon hydrotherapy and wellness center, and the co-creator of Trust Your Gut, a national wellness brand offering USDA Organic, gut-focused detox products, protocols, and education.A former college professor, master gardener, and semiprofessionally trained chef, Marina blends science, nature, and nutrition into a holistic approach to healing that’s both practical and transformative. Her personal journey from struggling with chronic mold exposure, dental trauma, and parasitic infections ignited her passion to help others heal from the inside out.Over nearly three decades and more than 30,000 colon hydrotherapy sessions, Marina has become recognized as a true pioneer in the field of gut health and natural detoxification. Her Scottsdale-based center offers a spa-like environment that merges education with experience helping thousands of clients restore balance through colon hydrotherapy, HOCATT ozone sauna, lymphatic drainage, and herbal detox support.Together with her partner and husband, Steve, Marina launched Trust Your Gut to make these same healing tools accessible at home offering USDA organic castor oil, wraps, USDA teas, enema kits, and drainage protocols that support foundational wellness. The brand’s mission is simple: to help people take control of their health naturally, affordably, and confidently.Known affectionately as the “Poop Fairy,” Marina is redefining how people think and talk about gut health replacing shame with empowerment and science with soul. Through her education, humor, and transparency, she reminds audiences that true healing begins with awareness, self-responsibility, and a willingness to listen to your gut — literally and figuratively.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.FEATURED GUESTMarina OrtegaThe OG poop fairy 💩🧚Owner/Founder of @scottsdalehydrotherapy & @trustyourgutshop✨Colonics, Enemas, Detox, & All Things GUT HEALTHWebsite: https://scottsdalehydrotherapy.comInstagram: @marinathepoopfairyCHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS00:00 – “I’m having trouble breathing…”00:26 – Welcome to the show & Marina’s introduction00:45 – Important medical disclaimer01:20 – Marina’s rock bottom begins in Flagstaff03:09 – “Worst labs in 25 years”: black mold, fungi, mycoplasma05:10 – Detox quotes from $30k up to $90k08:17 – Parasites on top of mold exposure10:03 – Liver enzymes elevated & using coffee enemas13:14 – Mold testing confusion and fear16:50 – Likely exposure source: a gym steam room24:04 – If you just found out you have mold: where to begin27:02 – Coffee enema basics and safety31:04 – Constipation as a silent epidemic33:21 – Parasite tea, binders, and gut scrubbers34:55 – Don’t cleanse if you’re constipated45:49 – Free tools: sun, movement, sweating46:47 – Where to find Marina & her business50:03 – TikTok cleanses and sequencingPresented by Jigsaw HealthBecause It's Fun to Feel Good
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Finding Your Model of Health: Chemaine Linnie | EP13
At just 18 years old, Chemaine Linnie hit rock bottom—280 pounds, a single mom, and told her life was over. But instead of giving up, she turned her pain into purpose. With faith, family, and determination, Chemaine lost 150 pounds and rebuilt her health from the inside out.In this inspiring episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Chemaine shares how she transformed her body and mindset after hitting rock bottom, the daily habits that helped her lose 150 pounds naturally, and why true healing starts with mindset, movement, and faith. She also offers practical tips for better sleep, nutrition, and hormone balance. Chemaine’s journey is a reminder that real transformation takes time, courage, and self-belief—and that it’s never too late to start your own health journey.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine.Chapter Timestamps: 00:00 — Welcome to The Rock Bottom Podcast 00:33 — Introducing Chemaine Linnie and her story 03:44 — Growing up in Dublin and early struggles 04:12 — The moment she hit rock bottom 05:04 — The dress incident that changed everything 06:09 — Joining Weight Watchers and finding faith 10:12 — Losing 150 pounds and discovering purpose 12:38 — The power of slow, steady progress 14:00 — The role of encouragement and community 15:25 — What her diet looked like then vs. now 18:06 — Food as comfort and early trauma 20:12 — Reflecting on processed food culture 22:05 — Learning what “healthy” really means 25:11 — Mindset, movement, and self-belief 28:56 — Why calories and movement still matter 29:23 — Building mental resilience through discipline 31:45 — Why keeping weight off is so hard 33:44 — Lessons from “The Biggest Loser” 35:05 — Real vs. unrealistic expectations 36:15 — Healing skin and body after massive weight loss 38:19 — Loose skin, body image, and self-acceptance 41:10 — Staying healthy after transformation 43:15 — Travel routines and daily discipline 45:00 — Redefining joy beyond food 47:25 — The role of laughter, family, and gratitude 50:49 — Competing less, living more 52:09 — From -10 to +12: how she measures happiness now 54:08 — “Finding Your Model of Health” — her book title and mission 55:38 — The power of trust between coach and client 56:44 — Sleep, hormones, and healing from within 57:07 — Why blue light before bed can sabotage rest 58:38 — Magnesium, collagen, and nighttime recovery 01:00:02 — Where to find Chemaine online 01:00:43 — Final thoughts: Doing your best every dayFeatured Guest:Chemaine LinnieCertified Nutrition & Hormone PractitionerHost of Find Your Model Health Podcast YouTube: Chemaine’s Model Health – https://youtube.com Website: https://chemainesmodelhealth.com Instagram: @chemainesmodelhealth – https://instagram.com/chemainesmodelhealthPresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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"Three Days to Live": Joey Raats | EP12
Former pro hockey player Joey Raats was told he had just three days to live after a diagnosis of metastatic testicular cancer.In this powerful conversation, he shares how faith, intuition, and sheer determination helped him fight back — from the ice rink to the ICU and beyond. Joey reflects on his hockey beginnings, the shock of a terminal prognosis, the toll of chemotherapy, his turn toward holistic healing, and the spiritual awakening that reshaped his life.Disclaimer: This episode shares one person’s experience. It is not medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional for guidance on medical care.Follow Joey RaatsInstagram: @raatsy44Twitter/X: @VegasRatWebsite: bio3ozone.comRock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by: Jigsaw HealthFollow on TikTokFollow on InstagramChapters00:00 – Intro00:09 – Hockey career and early pain signs00:10:01 – The first tumor discovery00:13:09 – The terminal diagnosis00:14:01 – Choosing chemo and the fear of treatment00:18:10 – Life inside the Mayo Clinic00:21:03 – Losing himself completely00:26:17 – Deciding to stop chemo00:30:51 – Nutrition, fasting, and faith00:32:08 – Ozone and vitamin C therapy00:34:11 – Launching Bio3 Ozone with his wife00:35:23 – Leaving Mayo Clinic for good00:37:43 – Finding balance between medicine and faith00:41:03 – “What Diagnosis?” — his wife’s idea and spiritual growth00:43:57 – Breathwork and rebuilding his body00:46:40 – The moment of surrender00:54:33 – “Every cell chose to survive”00:56:04 – Recovery through walking and discipline00:57:37 – What caused his cancer?00:59:02 – Closing reflections and gratitudePresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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Paralysis to Purpose: Razi Berry | EP11
Razi Berry, founder of Naturopathic Doctor News and Review and host of Love is Medicine, shares—for the first time—her personal story of losing nearly everything to a mysterious illness that left her bedridden and partially paralyzed for 5 years.Razi opens up about the terror of losing her independence, the painful medical uncertainty, and the long, layered road to recovery. Through vulnerability and humor, she reveals how the experience reshaped her understanding of the mind-body connection—and why true healing often begins with compassion for yourself and others.A story of resilience, faith, and rediscovering joy through unimaginable darkness.Listen for heartfelt insights on the difference between mindset and biology, the complexity of chronic illness, and how love—expressed in action, not slogans—can be medicine.---Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by: Jigsaw HealthFollow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@therockbottom.podcastFollow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockbottom.podcast---Timestamps00:00:00 – Welcome Razi BerryIntroducing Razi and her decades-long leadership in naturopathic medicine.00:02:19 – The First Signs of TroubleEarly neurological symptoms and the search for answers.00:05:01 – Life Collapsing InwardParalysis, isolation, and the loss of independence during years of illness.00:08:15 – Searching for a CauseTesting for mold, infections, toxins, and the desperate hunt for clarity.00:13:09 – A Frightening DiagnosisThe discovery of a neurological protein linked to degenerative diseases.00:20:15 – Between Science and SpiritNavigating differing medical opinions, self-doubt, and fear.00:25:16 – The Turning Point: Stem Cell TherapyA controversial but pivotal decision that sparked her gradual recovery.00:33:47 – Healing in LayersRegaining strength, rediscovering hope, and learning from the body’s wisdom.00:34:15 – Mind, Body, and BeyondWhy mindset alone can’t heal everything—and what true love as medicine means.00:48:58 – A New ChapterReconnecting with her daughters, relaunching her work, and finding joy again.01:03:09 – Closing ReflectionsRazi on empathy, mortality, and redefining what it means to heal.Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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"Invisible" but Real Illness: Liz Rozet | EP10
At 29, Liz Rozet hit a terrifying rock bottom — daily migraines, nerve pain, and complete exhaustion. What she thought were “just headaches” turned out to be a complex network of chronic conditions, including POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome), Type 1 Chiari malformation, hEDS (Hyper-mobile Ehlers-Danlos syndrome), CCI (Cranial Cervical Instability), and MCAS (mast cell activation syndrome).In this episode, Liz shares her journey through years of misdiagnoses, endless doctor visits, and the emotional weight of living with these “invisible illnesses” that are becoming more and more common. Her courage and persistence remind us that healing isn’t always linear — sometimes, it’s about learning to trust your own body again.Follow Liz on Instagram---Presented by Jigsaw Health Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@therockbottom.podcastFollow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockbottom.podcast---Chapters: 00:00 – Intro: Welcome to the Rock Bottom Podcast 00:24 – Meet Liz Roset: Misdiagnosed Migraines and Pain 01:14 – Rock Bottom: Daily Pain and Fear to Breathe 03:36 – Early Symptoms in College and Constant Fatigue 05:04 – Searching for Answers: “Heal Your Headache” Diet 07:19 – Realization: It’s More Than Just Migraines 10:00 – MRI Results: Discovering Chiari Malformation 19:48 – The ER, Spinal Fluid Leak Scare & Dismissive Doctors 25:33 – Discovering Dysautonomia & POTS Diagnosis 33:07 – CCI, Hypermobility & Facing Possible Spine Surgery 37:28 – Life in Tennessee, Diet Changes & Raw Milk Discovery 44:13 – MCAS Diagnosis, Food Sensitivities & Hope Restored 49:00 – Lessons in Self-Advocacy & Reclaiming HealthNew Episodes Every other WednesdayPresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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Healing Through Horses: Terra Schaad | EP9
Terra Schaad is an equine trauma therapist who built a sanctuary where people heal through their connection with horses. After growing up in chaos, Terra found safety and emotional grounding in the presence of animals, and now helps others do the same through somatic, horse-assisted therapy. In this episode, she shares powerful stories about trauma, healing, and the deep wisdom horses offer when words aren’t enough.Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by: Jigsaw HealthFollow on TikTokFollow on InstagramFollow Hunkapi on Facebook & InstagramVisit https://www.hunkapi.orgPresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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Healing Without a Prescription: Fred Patterson | EP8
Fred Patterson was the outgoing, social guy—until he wasn’t. After 15 years of medications, he decided to take his health into his own hands. What followed was a raw, personal journey to reclaim his health without a prescription pad. This episode unpacks what it really takes to heal from the inside out.Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by: Jigsaw HealthFollow on TikTokFollow on InstagramMentioned during this episode:Joe Dispenza - Becoming Supernatrual: https://a.co/d/dZHUs0nElisa Romero - Meet Your Soul: https://a.co/d/0Gz6mhSHal Elrod - The Miracle Morning: https://a.co/d/04qlnVLThe Tapping Solution: https://www.thetappingsolution.comDr. Barbara Starfield Research Paper: https://drkyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/iatrogenic.pdfPresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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Learn to Surrender: Jimmy Meehan | EP7
Jimmy Meehan suffered a hemorrhagic stroke out of nowhere during a workout, losing consciousness for 30 days. In the aftermath, he was forced to surrender control, learn to accept help, and slowly rebuild his life through intensive rehab. Now, two years later, he’s almost fully recovered and reflecting on how stress, hormones, and mindset played deeper roles in his health than he ever realized.Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by: Jigsaw HealthFollow on TikTokFollow on InstagramFollow Jimmy Meehan & The Elevated Hope Project:InstagramYoutubeSpotifyApple PodcastsWebsite: https://www.elevatedhopeproject.comPresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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Able: Leah Hope | EP6
Leah Hope shares her journey of losing over 190 pounds and the emotional healing that came with it. She explores the mindset shift that helped her stop chasing who she used to be and start living for who she is now. A raw and honest look at identity, health, and self-acceptance.Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by: Jigsaw HealthFollow on TikTokFollow on InstagramFollow Leah Hope:TikTokInstagramYouTube Website: https://www.leahhopehealth.comPresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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The Path Back To Presence: Wes Kress | EP5
Wes Kress shares how unresolved trauma rewired his nervous system — and how the medical system failed to see it. This episode explores what happens when your body says no, and how true healing starts with addressing the nervous system, not just symptoms.Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by: Jigsaw HealthFollow us on TikTokFollow Wes on InstagramBooks Mentioned:Dr. Hawkins - Power vs. ForceDon Miguel Ruiz - The Four AgreementsGary van Warmerdam - MindWorksPresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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I Couldn't Eat Without Pain: Landon Flowers | EP4
Landon Flowers hit rock bottom when gut issues took over his life. Nearly everything he ate triggered pain, bloating, and exhaustion—and doctors couldn’t explain why. In this episode, Landon shares how he turned things around by overhauling his diet, embracing whole, organic foods, and learning to listen to his body.Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by:https://www.jigsawhealth.comFollow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@therockbottom.podcast?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcFollow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockbottom.podcast?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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Never Broken, Never Healed: Dr. Matt Delgado | EP3
Dr. Matt Delgado was a 27-year-old chiropractor when his body forced him to stop. Burned out and undiagnosed, he walked away from it all—and began the slow, powerful journey back to health.Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by:https://www.jigsawhealth.comFollow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@therockbottom.podcast?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcFollow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockbottom.podcast?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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Food Over Pharma: Jill Keefe | EP1
Today’s guest hit rock bottom in her 40s after suffering a traumatic brain injury that changed everything. What followed was a long and uncertain road to recovery that led to the discovery of the healing power of food.Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by:https://www.jigsawhealth.comPresented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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I Got Quiet...Then I Healed: Elaine Glass | EP2
After years of emotional trauma and chronic stress, Elaine Glass found herself at a breaking point. In this episode, she shares how hitting rock bottom led her to finally get quiet—and ultimately, getting well.Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to The Rock Bottom Podcast presented by Jigsaw Health—where we share health horror stories that inspire.Each episode, we explore raw, unfiltered journeys of survival—experiences that will inspire, educate, and remind you that no matter how low you feel, there’s always a way up
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Patrick Sullivan Jr. & Ashley Leroux
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