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This Creative Life

Listen between the lines of the writing life with author Sara Zarr in interview and solo episodes, with a focus on the practical and psychological aspects of writing and publishing, the creative process, and that tricky intersection where art meets commerce. Past guests include filmmaker Scott Teems, National Book Award Winner Malinda Lo, and podcaster and author Dave Holmes.

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    A Couple of Brief Updates

    The Writers Circle: https://writerscircle.circle.so Still Writing: Still Writing has its very own feed! Please add it to your favorite podcast app, and let me know if you can't find it on yours. Apple Podcasts  Spotify Amazon Music Podcast home at Buzzsprout  

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    Still Writing Ep 2 Clip

    Still Writing has its very own feed! For the full episode, please add it to your favorite podcast app, and let me know if you can't find it on yours. Apple Podcasts  Spotify Amazon Music Podcast home at Buzzsprout

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    Still Writing: Pilot

    Still Writing has its very own feed! Please add it to your favorite podcast app, and let me know if you can't find it on yours. Apple Podcasts  Spotify Amazon Music Podcast home at Buzzsprout

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    Still Writing Teaser

    In which Still Writing and its mystery cohost are revealed! Stay tuned for Still Writing ep 1  Still Writing Apple Podcast link (also works for listening in your favoritie app like Overcast) Still Writing at Spotify Still Writing on Amazon Music ___ Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music!    

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    S3 E16: Author Alyssa Sheinmel

    Alyssa Sheinmel's psychological thriller and adult debut, Such Sheltered Lives, it out now. In this episode, I spoke with Alyssa about what it's been like to publish in the adult category alongside her ongoing work in her teen lit roots, how she gets it done, and hey, what's going on in YA right now anyway?  Such Sheltered Lives - Out from Atria 1/20/26 Alyssa's website Alyssa @ IG Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com The Writers Circle Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music!  

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    S3 E15: Annual Wrap-Up & Writers Circle Updates

    The Writers Circle Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Subscribe to the newsletter Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com    

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    S3 E14: Seasonal Shifts + Joni Sensel and Wildly Inspired

    In which we don't write a novel in a month, and look to the seasons to inspire our writing focus. Special thanks to Joni Sensel. Get Wildly Inspired! The Writers Circle Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com    

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    S3 E13: Jasminne Paulino's Notes to the Universe

    Many thanks to my guest Jasminne Paulino for sharing the story of how her debut novel, The Extraordinary Orbit of Alex Ramirez, came to be, how the pandemic led her to decide to pursue her MFA, and how a late-life diagnosis informs her writing.  Find Jasminne on Instagram @jasminne.notes, and at her website Find her book and all my guests' books at our Bookshop Shop The Writers Circle Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com    

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    S3 E12: The Autumn of My dis-Content

    Sorry about the unplanned hiatus! In this episode I talk about my break from online as my default environment, what that has to do with Our Times, and I guess I'm still learning how to pronounce "authoritarianism."  The Writers Circle Celery Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com

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    S3 E11: Hannah V. Sawyerr & Truth Is

    From childhood journals to Pitch Wars to the Morris Award Honor to the National Book Award Longlist, Hannah V. Sawyerr has been on a journey! I so enjoyed this conversation and I know you will, too. Truth Is comes out September 23rd everywhere books are sold. Truth Is at Bookshop Hannah's website & social links Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com

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    S3 E10: Reality-Based Goals

    Expanding on the first episode of this season, we ask what does "reality-based" mean when it comes to goals? The Writers Circle Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com    

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    S3 E9: Filmmaker Thomas Torrey

    Finally, another interview episode! This conversation with Thomas Torrey is exactly what I've been craving, and maybe you have, too. We talk about artistic despair and the freeing realization that we're not special. Also the ways in which his film, Long December, could be thought of as This Creative Life: the Movie. Bad Theology Pictures Long December The Writers Circle Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com    

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    S3 E8: Introducing the Writers Circle!

    The Writers Circle is a community for support, connection, and education for writers at all levels, across genres and categories. Check it out: The Writers Circle Coupons! EARLYBIRD10 for 10% off any membership (expires 9/2) FOREVER21 for 21% off a Forever membership (expires 9/2) Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com    

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    S3 E7: Dealing with Middles

    Podcast home page Take a peek at the Writers Circle The Inbox Variations Quarterly Newsletter Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com    

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    S3 E6: What Counts as Writing

    When your word count is down but you've got lots of dishes to do. Writers Circle waitlist Angel Down by Daniel Kraus E Lockhart on TCL back in 2015 Incubation and the creative process And preparing for incubation! (point 6)   Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com  

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    S3 E5: Five Craft Tips I Give the Most

    This week I go over five of the most common pieces of feedback I give on student and client manuscripts.  Got a writing question for a future episode? Email me! Podcast home page The Writers Circle Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com    

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    S3 E4: When to Invite Feedback

    Podcast home page Help for writers and Writers Circle waitlist Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com  

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    S3 E3: "This Is Stupid" with Author Andrew DeYoung

    In the first interview episode of TCL 3.0, we bring back an old friend with a new book. Andrew DeYoung's new domestic thriller, Stay Away From Him, is out this week. We talk about Andrew's path from YA to speculative to thrillers, the pleasures of writing genre fiction, and how he gets it done. Also, why is everything in publishing so slow? Get Stay Away from Him Help for writers and Writers Circle waitlist Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com    

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    S3 E2: Why You're Not Writing

    In this episode, I go over five common reasons we're not writing even though we want to, and offer some ways to change our thinking. Share it with a friend who needs to hear it! Podcast home page The Writers Circle On Becoming a Writer by Dorothea Brande (and other writing books I like) Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! Learn more about me, my books, and my other projects at: www.sarazarr.com

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    S3 E1: The Reality-Based Writing Life

    Subscribe to this podcast wherever you like to listen, including Apple, Overcast, Spotify, Podbean, and more. Help for Writers and Community Waitlist  Podcast Home Page Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! www.sarazarr.com  

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    87. Ashley C. Ford and the Ultimate Pivot - TCL Finale (?)

    I know you've been waiting a long time on a wish and a promise for this final episode in the Pivots, Comebacks, and Reinventions series. I appreciate your patience while I went and figured out myself and my own potential pivots and reinventions! The wait is over and I present to you my conversation with Ashley C. Ford, bestselling author of Somebody's Daughterand lots more. I'm so grateful to Ashley for her time and generosity in this conversation. I know you're going to love it as much as I did. Ashley's web site Somebody's Daughter The Reformatory by Tananarive Due Pre-order Kyra, Just for Today Get the This Creative Life book Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music. www.sarazarr.com

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    TCL Mini: The Writing Life Audit

    This is the audio version of the most recent newsletter PLUS some thoughts about what's next for the pod. Get the newsletter version of this post Get the book Get The Inbox Variations www.sarazarr.com  

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    86. Melissa Walker Takes Action

    In late 2016, Melissa Walker was working on her 10th novel when she went to a holiday party and heard then Senator Daniel Squadron talk about the importance of state-level politics—even for the national landscape. She was inspired to take action. That action eventually grew into a pivot from full-time writing to full-time work with The States Project. This conversation is everything I wanted from the Pivots, Comebacks and Reinventions series. It's a great example of how passion and purpose can realign for a season or a reason, while the writing is still always there. It got surprisingly emotional for both of us; I hope you enjoy it as much as we did. (This conversation is explicitly political in places, which may or may not be your jam!) Selected Links: The States Project - get involved Melissa's books Get the show notes / newsletter Get the book Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music. www.sarazarr.com

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    TCL Mini: No Sure Things

    The audio version of this week's newsletter on living with the uncertainty of writing. Get the newsletter version of this post Get the book! www.sarazarr.com

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    85. The Publishing Year in Review with Agent Michael Bourret

    From the supply chain issues that started the year, to the conversation about AI that's ending it, I talk through the year in publishing with Michael Bourret of Dystel, Goderich & Bourret. Also, we answer listener questions! This will be the last episode for the year, and the last one before a break during which I'll go off to Boston to teach and maybe even revise my novel. I'll be back (most likely in February) to pick up the Pivots, Comebacks, and Reinventions series.  Get the show notes / newsletter Get the book (holiday pricing good through 12/21) Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music Happy Holidays! www.sarazarr.com

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    84. Bennett Madison's Permission to Let Go

    What do you do when you've established a writing career and then it's not giving you what you came for? What does it look like to be a person who writes but whose entire identity isn't wrapped up in Being a Writer? Is there life on the other side, if you can just let go? Bennett Madison joins me for the first time since 2013 to talk about the work of deprofessionalizing his writing life to pivot to joy in creative work--and a steady paycheck doing something else. Get the show notes / newsletter Get the book Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! www.sarazarr.com

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    TCL Mini: Year In Review

    New full episode next week! Until then, here's the audio version of this week's newsletter, with a question for YOU about your dream writing podcast. Get the newsletter version of this post Get the book www.sarazarr.com

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    TCL Mini: Creative Rest

    The audio version of this week's newsletter on resting before making the next creative decision. Find the text version here!  

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    83. Tara Altebrando Is Solving the Puzzle

    In the third episode in the Comebacks, Pivots, and Reinventions series, my longtime friend and one-time (?) collaborator Tara Altebrando talks to me about her multiple pivots over a couple of decades as a working writer, and the driving forces behind those choices. Currently, she's working in scripted audio as the creator and writer of the Dream Breachers podcast at Pinna Audio and the President of Listen Like Thieves Productions. Get the show notes / newsletter Dream Breachers Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! www.sarazarr.com

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    82. Malinda Lo Never Went Away

    In the second episode in the Comebacks, Pivots, and Reinventions series, Malinda Lo and I talk about her huge year with Last Night at the Telegraph Club and what it has meant for her writing and life. But is it really a "comeback" if she never went away in the first place? Also we talk about her brand new book, A Scatter of Light. Get the show notes / newsletter Get A Scatter of Light Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music! www.sarazarr.com

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    81. Faith Gardner Takes Control (Comebacks, Pivots, and Reinventions)

    When author Faith Gardner grew frustrated with the slowly grinding gears of traditional publishing and wanted to spread her wings a bit, she took matters into her own hands. This is the first episode of this fall's Comebacks, Pivots, and Reinventions series! Get the show notes / newsletter Get the This Creative Life book Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music!

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    Comebacks, Pivots, and Reinventions - Coming Fall 2022

    What's coming this fall from This Creative Life! Show links: the newsletter the audiobook www.sarazarr.com

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    TCL Mini: Writing When It Doesn't Feel Like It Matters

    When it feels like the world is burning down, is writing something you want to save from the fire? Get the newsletter version of this post Get the book Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music www.sarazarr.com

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    TCL Mini: Becoming a Good Self-Editor

    Get the newsletter version of this post Get the book Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music. www.sarazarr.com

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    TCL Mini: Accepting Your Limitations

    Get the newsletter version of this post. Get the book. Thanks to Dave Connis for the theme music.

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    Ep 81: Author Michelle Huneven

    I'm so happy to be back with one my favorite contemporary novelists, Michelle Huneven. I love the compassion, humor, and reality in how she renders life and relationships. She's got a brand new book out, Search, which we talk about along with her other books, her background, and process—including the 20-year circuitous journey to the publication of her first novel, Round Rock. I hope you enjoy the episode and, if you're not already a fan, go explore her catalog. Get the show notes / newsletter Theme music by Dave Connis Support the pod via PayPal or ko-fi Get the This Creative Life book

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    Ep 80: The This Creative Life Book on Literaticast 55

    It's launch day for the This Creative Life ebook, with the paperback close behind! I was recently on Jenn Laughran's Literaticast digging into the content and ideas in the book, and she graciously let me crosspost the ep into the TCL feed.  The Literaticast on Apple Podcasts Get the show notes / newsletter Get 30% off the book with this link and this code: QWBODLO8MX Or find it just about everywhere that sells ebooks! B&N, Amazon, Kobo, Google Play, Apple. All the links at www.sarazarr.com

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    The Launch Box 7: Launched!

    A lot has happened since the last episode! Namely: A Song Called Home and The Temps are both out in the world and no longer under our control, if they ever were. We're already no longer in our pub-day month; new books come out, people move on. Our role as authors is pretty much done. So, what's next? As you'll discover in this episode, neither Andrew nor Sara are sure. Whether it's Andrew trying to decide what project to focus on now, or me pondering a complete exit from the whole endeavor, we're both tired and looking for some clarity in the breath-after-pub. We also talk about: checking sales numbers, Sally Rooney's bucket hat, and how we'd describe "the arc of a launch." And there's still one more book left to launch in this series! The This Creative Life book is off to the copyeditor and soon to meets its publishing fate. A Song Called Home The Temps Coming-of-age as apocalypse - Andrew's piece at LitHub Julia Fox at the Oscars This Creative Life - the book! Theme music: Creative Commons Deep Friendship by Lobo Loco is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    The Launch Box 6: An Abridged History of Self-Publishing

    As Andrew and I wait through the last few weeks before our books come out, we digress ever so slightly into an incomplete history of self-publishing, from its reputation as "vanity publishing" to where it converged with the advent of ebooks and e-readers to arrive at its present day status as a messy juggernaut. Also: why every writer should consider learning how to self-publish in the 21st century. Sara's book now comes out on 3/15; Andrew's is still scheduled for 3/29. Neither are at the bottom of the ocean! 0-13:30: Updates on our books 13:35-1:07:00: The incomplete history of self-publishing (including diversions to e-readers, the aspiring writer industrial complex, and remembering "New Adult" in its innocent infancy) 1:07:00 - end: Closing thoughts and coming attractions Support This Creative Life Theme music: Creative Commons Deep Friendship by Lobo Loco is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    Ep 79: Laurel Snyder

    Laurel Snyder is the author of numerous books for young readers, including Orphan Island, My Jasper June, and the Charlie & Mouse books.  In this episode, we talk about staying fluent in the language of childhood, the "ghost of brokenness" when writing from a sad place, how Laurel works with the all-or-nothing cycles of her writing process, being an extrovert in an introvert's career, and the difficulties of writing about faith and religion. Around minutes 53-58, this turns into a Real Housewives podcast. We're not sorry! Theme music by Dave Connis. This podcast is ad-free. Find out how to support it here. Thank you! More show notes / subscribe to get the podcast in your email

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    The Launch Box 5: Publicity, Book Blues, and Ringo

    The Launch Box is back! Andrew and I talk about letting go, publicity (including his experience with a freelance publicist), and have a breakthrough about what might be behind the Book Blues for a lot of writers. Also, we catch up on The Temps movie option and where we stand on unboxing videos. Ephemera: Ringo Starr, Scrivener syncing, and the ghost of Dorothea Brande. Andrew DeYoung Sara Zarr Ask a question / get extended show notes Support the pod Theme music: Creative Commons Deep Friendship by Lobo Loco is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    Ep 78: Preeti Chhibber

    I'm so excited to kick off 2022 with my conversation with Preeti Chhibber, a multitalented lady with just the energy we need to help take us into a new year. Preeti is an author, podcaster, speaker, and all-around badass who has published multiple IP projects as well as her original work. In this episode, we talk about how she got started in IP and what it takes to succeed in that world, managing a many-tentacled freelance career, and the risks and rewards of stating what you want to the world. Theme music by Dave Connis. This podcast is ad-free. Find out how to support it here. Thank you!

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    The Launch Box 4: Gifts, Ifs, and Shifts

    In this episode of The Launch Box, Andrew and I discuss the mysteries of professional gift-giving, how to balance big-picture career thinking with getting the writing done, the possibilities of being a weekend novelist, and EVENTS. Also, Sara gets a review and Andrew answers the TCL two questions. Plus so much more. Andrew DeYoung Sara Zarr Ask a question / get extended show notes Support the pod Theme music: Creative Commons Deep Friendship by Lobo Loco is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    The Launch Box 3. Subrights, Ingram Spark, & Depressed Cats

    Sara helps cast her audiobook, Andrew gets a movie option, Sara learns more about Ingram Spark for self-publishing, and we both write letters to booksellers hoping to endear them to us. Also, everyone is burned out, including Andrew's cat. Andrew DeYoung Sara Zarr Ask a question / get extended show notes Support the pod Theme music: Creative Commons Deep Friendship by Lobo Loco is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    The Launch Box 2. Blurbs, Blobs & Shame!

    Why does everything about having a book published embarrass us? What is man's proper relationship to the 'Zon? And what happened with that Realms of Ruin thing? We try to break it all down. Also: Andrew gets his first trade review and Sara reports some pre-order numbers. Links: Andrew DeYoung Sara Zarr Ask a question Support the pod Theme music: Creative Commons Deep Friendship by Lobo Loco is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    Ep 77: Dave Holmes

    Writer, podcaster, radio host, and VJ emeritus Dave Holmes joins me to talk about his long and winding road to writing his wonderful 2016 memoir, Party of One, his writing at Esquire, and how it all connects to his current podcast project, Waiting for Impact. We talk ADHD, burnout, the longing to be understood, and the obsessions that drive us. And a whole lot more.  Waiting for Impact Party of One: A Memoir in 21 Songs Dave at Esquire Homophilia Theme music by Dave Connis. This podcast is ad-free and free-free. Find out how to support it here. Thank you!

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    TCL: The Launch Box 1. Early & Late

    Introducing a This Creative Life special season: The Launch Box, in which Andrew DeYoung and I take you through the six-month period leading up to publication of our new books as we each publish for the first time in new categories. This series will cover a Big Five middle grade launch, a midsize-publisher adult literary launch, and a self-published nonfiction launch.  We'll talk covers, ARCs, blurbs, reviews, events, social media, sales, and, of course, shame, envy, and ego. We'd also love your questions! In this episode, we introduce themselves and our work, from Andrew's slushpile sale to my pivot from YA, and why authors care so much about pre-orders. Links: Andrew DeYoung Sara Zarr Ask a question Support the pod Theme music: Creative Commons Deep Friendship by Lobo Loco is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    Ep 76: Season Premiere with Mike Jung

    Author Mike Jung joins me for the first of a new batch of fall episodes. We talk about the events of his early life that put him on the path to being a writer, his publishing stories and writing process, a later-life autism diagnosis, and BTS. Thanks so much for being back with us for a new season! Mike Jung Support This Creative Life Get the emails Our Bookshop Shop

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    TCL Archives: Daniel Bowman, Jr.

    In March 2020, I spoke with Daniel Bowman, Jr., about writing, teaching, and being #ActuallyAutistic. This week, his new book On the Spectrum: Autism, Faith, and the Gifts of Neurodiversity is out. The book: "... rings with poetry, compassion, and wisdom, and it reveals so much about autistic experience." (Katherine May)  "...lights the path toward greater understanding, better advocacy, and a compelling vision for inclusion that moves beyond stereotypes and tokenism." (Nish Weiseth) "...shows us now to respect one's personhood, to listen, to default to humility and kindness." (Nick Ripatrazone) Buy the book Support the podcast here, or via this easy, direct PayPal link

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    TCL Archives: Brandy Colbert

    In March, 2020, I spoke with author Brandy Colbert about her work and writing process. Her nonfiction book, Black Birds in the Sky: The Story and Legacy of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre, is now available for pre-order. Brandy Colbert Support the Podcast  

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Listen between the lines of the writing life with author Sara Zarr in interview and solo episodes, with a focus on the practical and psychological aspects of writing and publishing, the creative process, and that tricky intersection where art meets commerce. Past guests include filmmaker Scott Teems, National Book Award Winner Malinda Lo, and podcaster and author Dave Holmes.

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