Through Rough Waters

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nicole Fryling from West Michigan Wellness Group. Together, we’re kicking off our Spring mini-series called “Back to Basics.” We start our conversation by answering the question, “What is counseling?” We’ll also take a look at the biblical foundation of the entire concept of “counsel,” define the professional relationship between a counselor and a client, share how one of the most important parts of counseling takes place outside of the counselor’s office, and discuss some of the reasons that someone can benefit from professional counseling. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Bridgett Blood to talk about how Christian singles & Christians who are dating can engage their God-given and God-wired sexuality in a healthy, Biblical, and God-honoring way. We talk about reframing this conversation from lists of “dos and don’ts” to honoring the way God created us, while still holding appropriate and Biblical boundaries. We also talk about how our sexual story is not “on pause” until or unless we get married, the difference between lust and longing, and the importance of finding our pleasure both in God and through God. Connect with Bridgett Instagram: @bridgettblood Website: bridgettblood.com Bridgett’s RECLAIM Cohort A 10wk virtual group for adult Christian singles and daters ready to reclaim sexual desire as sacred, not sinful. Only a few spots left! Here is the link to info and the application. https://bridgettblood.com/reclaim If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nicole Fryling to talk about loving through disappointment. We talk about some of the reasons disappointing relationships exist, how to look at yourself first to see what can change, the importance of healthy lament, and how to pray & love through a disappointing relationship. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by marriage therapist Jim Brazel to talk about how to be emotionally intelligent, spiritually intelligent, and romantically intelligent spouses, and why it’s so critical to turn toward (and not away from) your spouse during conflict. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nicole Fryling as we continue our series on relationships by talking about how we can move from loneliness to being known. We discuss how social media creates the illusion of community and being connected, the importance of being vulnerable and showing our “true” selves, and ways we can take steps toward healthy, biblical community. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin kick off our fall series all about relationships. We talk about how God designed us for relationship & community, look at what healthy, Biblical relationship looks like, why interdependence - and not independence or dependence - is key, and the role that therapy & counseling can play in strengthening our relationships. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nate Wagner, Director of Health & Counseling Services at Cornerstone University. Nate helps us through our conversation about how important it is to be kind to ourselves, how to show ourselves grace as we work through our struggles, and how shame is one of the biggest barriers to finding our identity in Christ. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by dietician, chef, and nutrition counselor Kristi Veltkamp. We talk about how important it is to have a healthy perspective about the food we eat and our bodies, how to show love to ourselves in the midst of struggling with nutrition, and some ways to make healthy changes to support better mental health. Connect with Kristi: www.thefaithfilleddietitian.com Instagram: @thefaithfilleddietitian If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach, Kevin, and some of our guests from our parenting series answer your questions - including, “How do I help my child understand that therapy will help them?” “When should parents intervene when children are having problems at school?” and “How should parents respond when their child tells them they are same-sex attracted?” If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Join our podcast group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Laurie Krieg from the Hole In My Heart Podcast and The Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender to talk about how to talk to your kids about sex in a gospel context. Laurie shares what she’s learned as she’s been writing a book, video series, and curriculum about this conversation, and we discuss how important it is to not shy away from talking about sex & sexuality to our kids. The Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender: www.centerforfaith.com Connect with Laurie: www.lauriekrieg.com Instagram: @lauriekrieg If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by therapist Kristi Kinzler to talk about parenting through grief and loss. Kristi shares her personal story of her husband’s sudden passing, how God showed up in her and her family’s story after that loss, and why she started the Kinzler Foundation to help other families going through their own sudden grief and loss. The Kinzler Foundation https://kinzlerfoundation.org/ If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by therapist Marge Lucas to discuss co-parenting. We talk about how parents can navigate raising their kids when they don’t have them all of the time, what a “loyalty bind” is, and why that’s so damaging to put kids in, what an ideal co-parenting arrangement can look like, and how to walk through parenting when the other parent isn’t cooperative or an equal partner. Learn more about Marge’s co-parenting classes here: www.wcsg.org/co-parenting If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by therapist Kathy Monroe to continue our series on parenting by talking about equipping parents with some skills to help model and manage behavior. We talk about how parents are like mirrors and children will match what they see in their parents, how important it is to give good directions, and go through some practical exercises about how to respond to behavior. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nicole Fryling to talk about parenting emerging adults. We discuss the transition into adulthood, why turning 18 doesn’t automatically make someone an “adult”, how parents can maintain a healthy relationship - and partnership - with their adult children, and ways to repair a relationship that may have been damaged. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by therapist Linda Saum as we continue our parenting series by talking about building confidence & resilience in our kids. We talk about helicopter- and snowplow-parenting, how simply removing obstacles from our kids’ lives isn’t always the best thing for them, and ways we can create safe environments for kids to become more confident and courageous. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by therapist Brooke Holmes as we kick off a new season and a new series on parenting. We talk about why we’re focusing on parenting, identifying trauma, taking the first steps toward helping our kids through trauma, and what to do when our own trauma as parents is impacting our children. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin wrap up Season 2 of Through Rough Waters by talking about stress. We talk about how stress isn’t automatically a bad thing, what stress actually is and how it shows up throughout our entire selves - both mind and body, and some ways we can respond to stress in a healthy way. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined again by Julianne Lettinga, LPC, to continue the conversation around body image by talking about eating. We talk about undereating and what it looks like to deprive ourselves, the difference between overeating and binge eating, how our family experiences growing up can contribute to disordered eating, body dysmorphia, and the reasons behind people having these struggles with food. Connect with Julianne Website: https://juliannelettingalpc.clientsecure.me/ Instagram: @julianne_lettinga_lpc_therapy If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Julianne Lettinga, LPC, to talk about body image. We talk about how important it is to remember that we have been created in the image of God, how parents and friends can help their loved ones, and the importance of therapy when someone struggles with their body image. Connect with Julianne Website: https://juliannelettingalpc.clientsecure.me/ Instagram: @julianne_lettinga_lpc_therapy If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Laurie Krieg from the Hole In My Heart Podcast as they begin a new series about self-image by talking about shame. Laurie shares her testimony and talks about the power of being seen, and how that is the way to heal from feelings of shame. We talk about how to pursue healthy community as a part of healing, and we also answer a listener’s question about how to forgive yourself. *Note that there are mentions of suicidal thoughts in this episode.* Connect with Laurie Website: lauriekrieg.com Instagram: @laurie_krieg Find the Hole In My Heart Podcast wherever you get your podcasts, and at wcsg.org. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Brooke from West Michigan Wellness Group as they continue their conversation about depression by talking about self-harm. They discuss what it is, some of the reasons that it can happen, and what the road toward healing looks like. *DISCLAIMER: This is a frank conversation about a hard topic. If you or someone you know is actively dealing with self-harm, please seek immediate professional help.* If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nicole from West Michigan Wellness Group as they continue their conversation about depression by focusing on what it’s like to be the caretaker of someone going through depression. Nicole shares some of her own story, and how to both take care of someone going through depression - and how caretakers need to make sure they are also taking care of themselves. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by therapist Amanda Moore, as she shares her personal journey through depression, and how God met her in that story. Amanda’s Book: Chameleon and the Color of Brave If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nicole Fryling as they begin a new series exploring depression. We ask the question, “What even is depression?” and in addition to helping define it, we look at some Biblical examples of people who have gone through depression and talk about how someone who is feeling depressed can begin their healing process. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Josh Wilson to talk about his new album, “Mental Help.” Josh shares his own mental health journey through anxiety, depression, addiction, and recovery, as well as the stories and sentiment behind his new album. Connect with Josh: https://www.joshwilsonmusic.com/ https://www.instagram.com/joshwilsonmusic/ https://www.tiktok.com/@joshwilsonofficial https://www.facebook.com/joshwilson https://www.youtube.com/joshwilsonmusic “Mental Help” by Josh Wilson https://lnk.to/MentalHelp If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Carmen Schierbeek from Pine Rest, as we continue our conversation about the intersection of medication and mental health. We talk about why sometimes medicine is necessary, the importance of lifestyle modifications and therapy along with medication when addressing our mental health, how to talk with your doctor and your therapist about medication, and how crucial it is to realize that medicine is a tool, not a cure. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Dr. Aaron Plattner as we begin a new series about the role of medication in mental health. We discuss how medicine actually works in the brain, how physicians go about prescribing medicine, and how therapy and medication work together. We also answer a listener’s question about why some people need medication for life, and some only need it for a season. Dr. Aaron Plattner - Spero Psychiatric https://speropsych.com/ If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Alaina Smith from Mariposa Counseling, as we wrap up our series on addictions. Alaina is a certified sex addiction therapist, and we spend this episode talking about the addictions and behaviors that impact marriages and intimacy. We talk about the lies that we believe when we fall into this temptation, and how there is hope and healing available in Christ. We also spend some time discussing why it’s so important for people who aren’t married yet to also guard their hearts in this area. *Note: while not done graphically or explicitly, mature subjects like sexuality, intimacy, and pornography are discussed in this episode.* Alaina Smith - Mariposa Counseling https://www.mariposacounselingllc.com/about If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Dr. Joel Robertson from Robertson Brain Health, a nationally recognized leader in the field of brain chemistry. They discuss how brain development early in life can impact the sorts of things that can tempt us later in life, and how we can use the wisdom from Philippians 4:8 to fill our minds with good things instead of being drawn into addictions or other negative behaviors and patterns. Robertson Brain Health http://www.robertsonbrainhealth.com/ If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Marge Lucas from West Michigan Wellness Group. Marge is a social worker and a Licensed Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselor with decades of experience working with families in the area of addictions. We talk about how an addiction doesn’t impact only the addict themselves, but the entire family - as well as answer a question about what a parent should do if they suspect substance abuse in one of their children. FAN (Families Against Narcotics) https://www.familiesagainstnarcotics.org/copy-of-okemos-general-and-local-re Teen Challenge https://www.wm-tcgr.com/ SAMHSA (Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) https://www.samhsa.gov/ NIDA (National Institute on Drug Abuse) https://nida.nih.gov/ If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Matt Krieg from Second Story Counseling and the Hole In My Heart Podcast as we begin a series about addiction. Matt shares his story of overcoming his addiction, and we spend some time talking about what is physically and chemically happening inside your brain when you are addicted, how you can identify addiction, and how even strong believers in Jesus can fall into this temptation. We also meditate on 1 Corinthians 6:21 & James 1:13-14 to see what the Bible says about addictions, and answer a listener’s question about the best way to help a friend. *Note that there is some (non-graphic) discussion of pornography and sexual intimacy in this episode. Matt is the co-host of the Hole In My Heart podcast, along with his wife Laurie and Steve from WCSG. Learn more about their ministry at www.lauriekrieg.com, and find episodes of Hole In My Heart wherever you get your podcasts, including at www.wcsg.org. Bob Newhart sketch, “Stop It”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQGzeiYS_Q If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Brooke Holmes from West Michigan Wellness Group as we wrap up our first season by talking about self-awareness, specifically how to be self-aware during conflict. We talk about how important it is to be humble, be aware of your own past hurts and experiences, and to be curious. We also discuss what happens when you don’t work through your conflicts and let them stay buried inside yourself and how to be aware of your own emotions & feelings, rather than just jumping straight to what you’re thinking. The Feelings Wheel: https://feelingswheel.com/ If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by family and marriage therapist Jim Brazel as we continue our series on family by looking at repairing problems and setting boundaries. We spend some time reflecting on what Proverbs 4:23 means when it calls us to “guard our hearts,” as well as talk about the process of repairing problems within the family unit and discuss the importance of setting appropriate boundaries. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

This week, Zach and Kevin are joined by Rev. Dr. Brian Smilde as they take a deep dive on the idea of family wounds and trauma. They unpack Ephesians 6:1-4 and the idea of both honoring your parents and of parents not provoking their children, as well as discuss wounds of withholding (neglect) and wounds of aggression (abuse). They also discuss how to identify trauma and how important it is to get help and begin processing it. Note: There are brief, non-graphic mentions of sexual abuse in this episode as our guest Brian shares some of his personal story. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

This week, we start our new series looking at conflict within the family. Zach and Kevin spend some time unpacking the nature of conflict itself, talk about what it means to transcend conflict, and go through a few scenarios putting conflict resolution into practice. We also meditate on Proverbs 15:18, and answer a heavy listener question about working through conflict in marriage. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

This week, we wrap up our series on anxiety with a look at the transition period of college & young adulthood. Zach and Kevin are joined by Amy Zeilstra from West Michigan Wellness Group who specializes in working with young adults. We talk about what it looks like for this generation to figure out “adulting,” the importance of allowing ourselves to actually feel our feelings, and spend some time reflecting on the realities of how social media impacts our mental health - especially at this age. We also meditate on Proverbs 12:25, and answer a very thought-provoking question about anxiety. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

We continue our series on anxiety, this time focusing on teenagers and the high school years.. Zach and Kevin are joined by James Murray from West Michigan Wellness Group, who specializes in working through anxiety with teens. We talk about what anxiety looks like in teenagers today, how parents can help their kids both before and during the therapy process, the difference between voluntary and involuntary stress, and the importance of unplugging - as well as spend some time meditating on 2 Timothy 1:7 and answering a question from Kendall about the fear of failure. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

We continue our series on anxiety, moving our focus toward adolescents. Zach and Kevin are once again joined by Linda Saum and Caleb Jones from West Michigan Wellness Group. This is a continuation of the conversation started in the last episode, so go back and listen to Episode 03 if you haven’t yet. We take a look at some more Scripture and jump back into our conversation on anxiety, this time focusing on adolescence and middle school. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

We continue our series on anxiety, focusing on early childhood in this episode. Zach & Kevin are joined by Linda Saum and Caleb Jones from West Michigan Wellness Group. In addition to meditating on some scripture about anxiety, we take a deeper look at what anxiety looks like in young children, some questions that parents can ask their kids when they notice symptoms of anxiety, and discuss when it’s time to seek professional counseling. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

In this episode, we begin our series on anxiety. Thanks to Nicole Fryling from West Michigan Wellness Group for joining us! In addition to meditating on some scripture about anxiety, Kevin and Nicole take a deeper look at what’s actually happening in your brain when you feel anxious and share some practical steps to work through your anxiety. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected] or submit your question anonymously at https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

Thank you for joining us for the first episode of Through Rough Waters! In this debut episode, we will discuss the reason behind this podcast, spend some time meditating on our theme verse from Isaiah 43, and dispel some myths about mental health and therapy. If you have a question for our Q&A segment, you can email [email protected]. Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/. ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.