Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Patrick McCann — Chief Executive of the City of London Law Society, co-founder of multiple legal diversity initiatives, former Director of Learning at Linklaters, and one of the most visible LGBTQ+ voices in the UK legal sector. Patrick brings an energizing, deeply human perspective to leadership, challenging the rigid conventions often embedded in traditional industries like law. From his early career as a lawyer navigating hierarchical systems that rewarded conformity, to simultaneously teaching aerobics classes for over two decades, Patrick shares how breaking rules, embracing individuality, and prioritizing people over positional power shaped his unconventional path. This conversation explores what leadership really looks like beyond titles, status, and traditional authority. Patrick opens up about navigating anxiety, late-diagnosed ADHD, imposter syndrome (or as he calls it, becoming an “imposter”), and the ways leaders can create environments where people actually feel seen, supported, and able to thrive. Beyond leadership, this episode dives into identity, self-awareness, inclusion, and why the most impactful leaders are often the ones willing to challenge outdated systems while staying grounded in kindness and authenticity.   We explore: - Why “follow the rules” can be some of the worst career advice you ever receive - Patrick’s unexpected journey from lawyer to sought-after aerobics instructor - The hidden class systems and hierarchies inside elite professional environments - Why great leaders focus more on people than titles, profits, or ego - The importance of recognizing and calling out people’s strengths specifically - How anxiety, ADHD, and losing things became part of Patrick’s leadership self-awareness - Why self-doubt can become self-indulgent if left unchecked Patrick’s perspective is a reminder that leadership isn’t about becoming more polished, more hierarchical, or more intimidating — it’s about becoming more yourself, more intentional, and more committed to helping others grow. If you’ve ever questioned traditional leadership models, struggled with self-doubt, or wondered how to succeed without sacrificing authenticity, this episode will leave you both inspired and rethinking what effective leadership actually looks like. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com/?utm_source=Podcast Guest Details: Organization: City of London Law Society LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-mccann-066017207/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Nick Jain — co-founder of Eagle Rock CFO Services, Harvard Business School graduate, former professional investor, and finance leader who has helped scale businesses across trucking, software, and e-commerce to over $100M in revenue. Nick brings a refreshingly analytical and unconventional perspective to leadership, challenging many of the “feel-good” business rules people are often taught early in their careers. From questioning the popular advice to simply “be yourself” as a leader, to explaining why successful businesses should be built through small experiments instead of big all-or-nothing bets, Nick shares practical lessons shaped by years of experience leading finance and operations teams. This conversation dives into the realities of leadership, decision-making, entrepreneurship, and what it looks like to build an AI-native consulting business from the ground up. Nick also opens up about the challenges of sticking to decisions, managing uncertainty, navigating partnership dynamics, and why leadership is often less glamorous and far more methodical than popular culture suggests. Beyond business strategy, Nick shares his thoughts on AI, entrepreneurship, and how math, experimentation, and calm decision-making shape both his work and mindset. We explore: Why the advice to “just be yourself” can actually hurt aspiring leaders Why successful leaders are often more analytical than charismatic The struggle of sticking with decisions after they’ve been made How Nick and his co-founder are building an AI-native advisory firm Why smaller, highly efficient businesses may outperform traditional large firms The realities of co-founder communication, role clarity, and partnership agreements Nick’s perspective is a reminder that leadership isn’t always about confidence, charisma, or bold speeches — often, it’s about clear thinking, thoughtful experimentation, and building systems that let businesses grow smarter. If you’ve ever questioned traditional leadership advice or wondered what modern entrepreneurship really looks like in the AI era, this episode will give you a lot to think about. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com/?utm_source=Podcast Guest Details: Company: Eagle Rock CFO Services Website: https://eaglerockcfo.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmjain/ If you’re building, leading, or scaling a business — and want a more practical, grounded perspective on leadership, finance, and experimentation-driven growth — this conversation offers both strategy and insight. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Leadership doesn’t have to mean carrying everything alone. If your business is growing, but somehow everything still lands back on your desk, it may not be a time management issue — it may be the decisions shaping your leadership. Join my FREE live webinar where I’ll walk you through 3 key decisions that help leaders increase revenue without adding more hours to their schedule. 👉 Save your spot here: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com Stop being the bottleneck. Start leading with more clarity, focus, and freedom. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Leadership doesn’t have to mean carrying everything alone. If your business is growing, but somehow everything still lands back on your desk, it may not be a time management issue — it may be the decisions shaping your leadership. Join my FREE live webinar where I’ll walk you through 3 key decisions that help leaders increase revenue without adding more hours to their schedule. 👉 Save your spot here: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com Stop being the bottleneck. Start leading with more clarity, focus, and freedom. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Kevin O'Neill — a multi-business owner who has built and scaled several seven-figure lifestyle businesses in the water sports industry. Kevin brings a raw, unfiltered, and refreshingly honest perspective on entrepreneurship, sharing the highs, the failures, and the unconventional path that led him to success. From growing up in Detroit with no connection to boating, to building a thriving water-based business empire, his story challenges the idea that success follows a straight line. He opens up about navigating ADHD, overcoming self-doubt, and learning business the hard way — through experience, mistakes, and relentless curiosity. Kevin also breaks down why blindly following traditional business advice (like over-leveraging or rigid systems too early) can actually hurt your growth. Beyond business, Kevin’s personality shines through — whether it’s raving in his late 40s, traveling the world, or building a life centered around freedom, fun, and family. This conversation dives deep into what it really takes to build something meaningful — and why knowing yourself is the ultimate advantage. We explore: Why “leverage everything” isn’t always smart business advice The reality of imposter syndrome — even at high levels of success Why financial literacy is a skill many entrepreneurs learn too late Building businesses that fund your lifestyle — not consume it The importance of hiring people better than you Why authenticity and self-awareness beat traditional leadership playbooks The power of exploring multiple business models instead of sticking to one lane How confidence is built by being in the room — even when you feel out of place Kevin’s story is proof that there’s no single formula for success. By embracing curiosity, leaning into your strengths, and staying open to opportunity, you can build a life and business that actually works for you — not one dictated by outdated rules. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com/?utm_source=Podcast Guest Details: Book: Mate to Millionaire (available on Amazon) Website: (Coming soon) KevinAndGregLive.com If you’ve ever felt like you don’t quite fit the “traditional” mold of success — this episode will show you that might actually be your greatest advantage. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Leadership doesn’t have to mean carrying everything alone. If your business is growing, but somehow everything still lands back on your desk, it may not be a time management issue — it may be the decisions shaping your leadership. Join my FREE live webinar where I’ll walk you through 3 key decisions that help leaders increase revenue without adding more hours to their schedule. 👉 Save your spot here: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com Stop being the bottleneck. Start leading with more clarity, focus, and freedom. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Dusty Goldson — CEO of Tectonic, a company he built over 25+ years without outside funding, hype cycles, or chasing trends. Dusty shares a grounded, no-nonsense perspective on leadership and growth, shaped by real-world experience scaling teams, navigating five acquisitions, and building businesses rooted in trust, consistency, and long-term relationships. His approach challenges the idea that success comes from rigid systems or quick wins — instead, he makes the case for clarity, adaptability, and people-first leadership. From rethinking decision-making styles to navigating the messy realities of acquisitions, Dusty opens up about what actually happens behind the scenes of “successful” businesses — including the expectations that don’t match reality, the people challenges leaders often underestimate, and the importance of self-awareness in high-stakes environments. Beyond business strategy, this conversation dives into leadership psychology — from managing impulsiveness and fast thinking, to embracing imposter syndrome as a tool for growth rather than something to avoid. We explore: - Why “bullet point thinking” can limit better decision-making - The hidden challenges behind acquisitions — especially people and culture - Why early success can sometimes create long-term problems - The myth of “we’re all family” in business — and what to believe instead - Why great leaders focus more on people than processes or platforms - The importance of self-awareness and moderating your natural tendencies - Building a culture of accountability — and not tolerating underperformance - Why solving problems (not selling solutions) is the key to long-term success - How imposter syndrome can actually be a healthy and necessary signal - The value of surrounding yourself with people who think differently Dusty’s perspective is a reminder that leadership isn’t about having all the answers — it’s about making decisions, learning fast, and staying honest about the realities of building and scaling a business. If you’ve ever felt the gap between how business is supposed to work and how it actually unfolds in real life — this episode will resonate. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com Guest Details: Company: Tectonic Website: https://teamtectonic.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustygulleson/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Paul Schrader — an entrepreneur who has built and scaled over a dozen companies across e-commerce, manufacturing, third-party logistics, and emerging digital markets. Paul shares a powerful and unconventional take on business growth, challenging the long-standing belief that success comes from focusing on just one thing. Instead, he reveals how staying adaptable, spotting shifts early, and building around opportunity has allowed him to grow multiple successful ventures in parallel. From supplying NASA (yes — even sending fruitcake to space 🚀) to building a 150,000+ square foot operation, Paul’s journey is packed with real-world insights on innovation, leadership, and thinking differently in a rapidly changing world. The conversation dives into the future of entrepreneurship, the evolution of the creator economy, and how AI is reshaping the way businesses operate. Paul also shares his perspective on leadership, authenticity, and why understanding people—not just processes—is the key to building strong teams. If you’ve ever questioned traditional business advice or felt like there might be another way to succeed—this episode will challenge your thinking in the best way possible. We explore: Why “focus on one thing” might be outdated advice How to spot opportunities and pivot before it’s too late The real value of adaptability in modern business How AI is changing research, decision-making, and productivity Why authenticity beats “sales tactics” every time The power of networking and building long-term relationships Understanding different mindsets in leadership (people vs. process) Why success doesn’t look the same for everyone The future of the creator economy—and where it’s heading next Paul’s perspective is a refreshing reminder that there’s no single path to success. By staying curious, adaptable, and open to opportunity, you can build something dynamic, resilient, and uniquely your own—without being boxed in by conventional rules. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com/?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=paul+D%E2%80%99shreder   Guest Details: Company: https://minimusproducts.biz Fulfillment: https://minimusfulfillment.biz   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Angelo D’Amico, a CEO leading a multimillion-dollar manufacturing company. Angelo brings a rare combination of real-world executive experience and deep thinking, shaped by his background in economics and philosophy. Instead of offering surface-level leadership advice, he challenges the way we think about ambition, pressure, and what success actually costs behind the scenes. This conversation goes beyond the highlight reel of business success and gets into the realities leaders face every day—decisions, trade-offs, and the internal battles that don’t get talked about enough. From navigating high-stakes environments to questioning conventional definitions of success, Angelo offers a thoughtful and honest perspective for anyone building, leading, or striving for more. We explore: The hidden cost of ambition and success How leaders navigate pressure in real business environments Why success isn’t always what it looks like from the outside The role of values in decision-making at the highest levels How philosophy and economics shape better leadership thinking Why there are no easy answers in leadership—only better questions The importance of honest conversations in business and life Rethinking what it means to build a meaningful career Angelo’s perspective is a powerful reminder that leadership isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about being willing to ask better questions, think deeper, and lead with intention in a complex world. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com Guest Details: instagram: https://www.instagram.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Ken Cox for a conversation that goes way beyond surface-level AI talk. From running massive data systems to doing stand-up comedy, Ken breaks down what most people are missing: → AI can already replace most computer-based tasks → The real risk isn’t AI — it’s blind trust in it → And the biggest skill right now? Learning how to think with AI, not against it But it doesn’t stop there… We get into: – Why “playing” with AI daily might be your biggest advantage – The danger of false confidence in automation – What bombing on stage teaches about growth (and silence 👀) – And a raw, honest look at identity, transformation, and neurodiversity in the workplace This one is different. And yes… you’re in for a wild ride.Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com/?utm_source=podcast+Kurt+Uhlir&utm_medium=podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Kurt Uhlir — CMO, growth operator, and a leader who’s helped scale companies through hypergrowth, acquisitions, and even an $880M IPO. But here’s the twist… Kurt challenges the very idea of what leadership is supposed to look like. Conventional wisdom says: 👉 Leaders must always be certain 👉 Growth follows a fixed playbook 👉 Success means scaling fast—no matter what Kurt flips that on its head. He shares why the best leaders don’t pretend to have it all figured out and how that mindset actually unlocks better strategy, stronger teams, and real growth. This conversation dives deep into: • Why “having all the answers” can actually hold you back • The hidden danger of hiring for roles instead of outcomes • How leadership behavior can unintentionally trigger your team • Why decision-making gets harder—not easier—as you grow • The real reason imposter syndrome shows up (even at the top) • How to define your “best yes” and stop chasing everything One of the biggest takeaways?  If you don’t define what success looks like for you, you’ll always feel like you’re falling short. Kurt’s perspective is a powerful reminder that leadership isn’t about control it’s about curiosity, clarity, and the courage to question everything… including yourself. 🎧 If you’re building, leading, or scaling—this is one you don’t want to miss. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com/?utm_source=podcast+Kurt+Uhlir&utm_medium=podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8Guest Details: Website: https://kurtuhlir.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtuhlir/ Other: https://www.youtube.com/c/KurtUhlir Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Joel Miller, co-founder of The Sky Floor, a boutique marketing agency he runs with his identical twin brother. Joel shares a refreshingly honest take on business growth, challenging the “scale or die” mindset that dominates today’s entrepreneurial world. While many chase rapid expansion, Joel and his brother have intentionally built a profitable, $500K+ agency with just two people—proving that success doesn’t have to follow a traditional path. The conversation dives deep into redefining success, pricing your value with confidence, and why hourly billing might be one of the biggest mistakes service-based businesses make. Joel also opens up about imposter syndrome, even after years of success, and the mental frameworks he uses to push through it. From rejecting generic business advice like “niching down” to treating marketing like long-term investing, this episode is packed with practical insights and powerful mindset shifts for entrepreneurs who want to build a business on their own terms. We explore: Why “scale or die” isn’t the only path to success The problem with hourly billing—and what to do instead How to confidently price your services (even when doubt creeps in) Why success looks different for everyone—and how to define it for yourself The truth about imposter syndrome (at every level) Why you don’t have to niche down to grow a successful business Joel’s perspective is a powerful reminder that you don’t have to follow the crowd to succeed. You can build something profitable, sustainable, and aligned—without burnout, without unnecessary complexity, and without sacrificing what matters most. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com?utm_source=unconventional+wisdom+episode+58&utm_medium=podcast Guest Details: Website: https://www.theskyfloor.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelelliottmiller/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Matt Levenhagen, founder of Unified Web Design and host of The Builders Podcast. Matt has been building online since the early 2000s—starting with affiliate sites and digital products before evolving into a full-service web agency. Today, his company serves clients globally, with a strong focus on WordPress development and, more recently, AI and automation through Unified Labs AI. Matt shares his journey as a long-time builder, offering a grounded perspective on what it really means to grow a business over time. From early entrepreneurial experiments to running an established agency, he challenges the common belief that success must always mean rapid scaling and constant expansion. Instead, he introduces a more sustainable approach—one rooted in appreciating what you’ve already built while still leaving room for future growth. Throughout the conversation, Matt opens up about the tension between ambition and contentment. After years of chasing aggressive growth, he reflects on the lessons learned from overextending—taking on too much, saying yes too quickly, and the consequences that followed. This has led him to a more balanced mindset: recognizing success in the present moment rather than always pushing for the next milestone. Ultimately, this episode is a powerful reminder that success doesn’t have to follow a rigid formula. It can be intentional, flexible, and deeply personal—defined not just by growth, but by fulfillment, alignment, and the freedom to build on your own terms. We explore: - Why constant growth isn’t the only definition of success - The danger of scaling too fast—and how to recognize your limits - How to balance ambition with contentment in business - Rethinking leadership: leading from within vs. stepping away - The reality of not having everything “figured out” as a founder - Why predictable lead generation is still a challenge for many entrepreneurs - The value of relationships and consistency over quick wins and so many more... Matt’s perspective offers a refreshing and honest take on entrepreneurship—one that prioritizes sustainability, self-awareness, and meaningful work over chasing endless growth. If you’ve ever felt pressure to scale faster or questioned what success should look like, this episode provides a thoughtful and empowering alternative. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Guest Details: Website: https://www.mattlevenhagen.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/levenhagen/ #leadership #entrepreneurship #mindset #businessgrowth #personaldevelopment #leadershipdevelopment #successmindset #growthmindset #businesstips #management #teamwork #culture #companyculture #startuplife #smallbusiness #businesspodcast #selfimprovement #productivity #decisionmaking #impostersyndrome #resilience #motivation #inspiration #careeradvice #professionaldevelopment Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Dave Gli, co-founder of Easy DC 3PL, a Kentucky-based logistics company providing warehousing, fulfillment, and transportation services to manufacturers and e-commerce businesses. Dave also hosts the Beyond Fulfillment Podcast, where he explores the entrepreneurial journey and the mindset behind building meaningful success. Dave shares his path from a long and successful career in sales to entrepreneurship, challenging the traditional belief that college is the only route to success. After choosing to leave college and pursue sales, he carved out his own path—one rooted in self-development, confidence, and real-world experience rather than conventional expectations. Throughout the conversation, Dave opens up about the realities of building a business—from navigating uncertainty and fear to staying grounded through wellness and intentional living. He emphasizes that success isn’t just about financial achievement, but about enjoying what you do, growing as a person, and showing up fully in all areas of life. The discussion also highlights Dave’s approach to leadership and growth—centered on transparency, respect, and collaboration rather than authority. He shares how being open with his team and valuing their input has helped build trust and strengthen the company culture. A key theme in this episode is the power of authenticity over transaction. Dave explains how focusing on providing real value—rather than chasing leads—has naturally grown his business, especially through his podcast and content. His mindset challenges the idea that everything must be directly monetized, showing instead that genuine impact creates long-term opportunity. We explore: - Why college isn’t the only path to success—and how to find your own - The role of personal development in shaping career growth - How to navigate fear, doubt, and uncertainty as an entrepreneur - Why success is more than income—it’s fulfillment and alignment - The importance of wellness in sustaining high performance - A leadership style built on transparency, respect, and collaboration - Why not everything needs to be transactional to drive business growth Dave’s perspective is a refreshing reminder that success doesn’t follow a fixed formula. It’s built through action, resilience, and a willingness to challenge conventional paths. If you’ve ever questioned the “standard” way of building a career or business, this episode offers a grounded, practical, and empowering alternative. Connect with me here. Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon/ Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Ben Wong, a seasoned product and strategy executive, fractional Chief Product Officer, and founder of Blue Harmony Advisory—a boutique firm helping companies grow with purpose, clarity, and measurable impact. Ben shares insights from nearly two decades of experience guiding growth-stage technology companies, particularly in EdTech and SaaS, through critical inflection points. His journey spans product leadership, strategy, and advisory roles, offering him a unique vantage point on how businesses scale—and where conventional wisdom often falls short. Throughout the conversation, Ben challenges the idea that success comes from rigid “playbooks” or best practices. Instead, he emphasizes the importance of understanding context, human dynamics, and the deeper “why” behind what works. He also explores how culture must evolve as companies grow, and why leaders need to focus less on preserving rituals and more on sustaining purpose. The discussion dives into the realities of leadership—highlighting the importance of listening, building alignment over agreement, and fostering trust rather than authority. Ben also shares his perspective on navigating imposter syndrome, the shifting landscape of work in the age of AI, and why developing self-awareness and intentionality early in life is critical for long-term success. A key theme throughout the episode is the power of human connection in an increasingly automated world. Ben makes a compelling case that while AI is transforming how work gets done, the ability to understand people, facilitate collaboration, and lead with empathy will only become more valuable. We explore: - How company culture must evolve during periods of growth - The importance of listening and facilitation as leadership skills - Why leadership teams must model the behavior they expect - The shift from authority to trust in effective leadership - How AI is changing work—and what remains uniquely human - The importance of intentionality in career and life decisions - Why giving yourself permission to be “selfish” can prevent burnout - How to navigate imposter syndrome and build self-awareness Ben’s perspective is a powerful reminder that leadership isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about asking better questions, understanding people, and adapting with intention.  If you’ve ever relied on a “playbook” that didn’t quite fit, or questioned your path in a rapidly changing world, this episode offers a more thoughtful, human-centered approach to growth and leadership. Connect with me here. Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com  Connect with me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon/ Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Connect with Ben here: Website: https://www.blueharmonics.io/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-wang-5731ba3/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ben_blueharmonics/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, i sits down with Clint Rush, a decorated combat veteran and business executive currently serving as president and Managing Partner of Cabinetry and Millwork Concepts. Clint shares his unconventional journey—from studying at the University of Wisconsin to enlisting in the U.S. Army following 9/11, serving nearly a decade with overseas assignments, and eventually transitioning into the private sector. His career spans operations, finance, and executive leadership, including his role as President and CEO of NorthPoint Logistics before stepping into his current leadership position. His story is one of adaptability, resilience, and redefining leadership through real-world experience. Throughout the conversation, Clint challenges traditional ideas of leadership, emphasizing honesty, trust, and action over perfection. Drawing from both military and business environments, he offers a refreshing perspective on what it truly means to lead effectively, build strong teams, and navigate uncertainty. We explore: - Why shielding teams from bad news actually weakens leadership - The importance of radical honesty and transparency in building trust - How military leadership translates (and doesn’t translate) into business - The myth of having everything “figured out” as a leader - Why action beats overplanning—and how to avoid analysis paralysis - The balance between excellence and perfection in business execution - Building strong teams through trust, accountability, and support - How to manage imposter syndrome in high-pressure environments - The role of pacing and decision-making in leadership success - Why asking for help is a critical (and often overlooked) leadership skill Clint’s perspective is a powerful reminder that great leadership isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about being honest, taking action, trusting your team, and continuously learning along the way. If you’ve ever felt the pressure to be perfect or to have everything under control, this episode will challenge that thinking and give you a more practical, human approach to leading and succeeding. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on LinkedIn: /kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Shirley Wantland, CEO of Recovery Consultants, a company providing bespoke recovery support for individuals and families navigating addiction, mental health, and behavioral health challenges. Shirley shares her journey growing up as the daughter of Vietnamese immigrants in Oklahoma, where fitting in felt like survival, and how those early experiences shaped her views on identity, success, and belonging. She opens up about stepping into her authentic self—symbolized by her now-signature purple hair—and what it really took to move beyond fear, judgment, and societal expectations. Her story is not just about building a successful business—it’s about unlearning perfectionism, embracing vulnerability, and redefining what leadership and success actually look like. We talk about how authenticity can feel risky but necessary, why so much conventional business advice falls short, and how self-compassion plays a critical role in both personal growth and leadership. We explore: Why authenticity requires vulnerability and courage How early cultural expectations shape our view of success The trap of perfectionism and “being ready” Why fitting in can hold you back from real growth The reality of imposter syndrome—even at the highest levels How to lead without hierarchy and embrace collaboration Why self-compassion is essential for healing and progress The importance of addressing mental health without shame or stigma Shirley also shares personal insights into building and leading a 25-person team, navigating difficult leadership decisions, and creating a company culture rooted in growth rather than perfection. This conversation is a reminder that success isn’t about fitting into a mold—it’s about breaking it, owning your story, and having the courage to show up as you are. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on LinkedIn: /kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Jerry, an entrepreneur who has built, bought, and sold over a dozen businesses, generating more than $450 million in revenue. Jerry shares his journey from growing up in extreme poverty as one of nine children to building a life and career from nothing no degree, no safety net, and no shortcuts. Through it all, he built a mindset grounded in one powerful principle: total ownership of your life and outcomes. This conversation goes beyond business. It’s about resilience, discipline, and rethinking what real success looks like. We dive into why taking responsibility changes everything, how early life shapes long-term outcomes, and why a lot of popular business advice misses the mark. Jerry also opens up about imposter syndrome, leadership, and the reality behind building and sustaining success. We also explore: - Why responsibility is a superpower in business and life - How adversity can shape your advantage - Why “perfect” business personas are a myth - Why common sense often beats formal education - What most leadership advice gets wrong - How to grow without losing yourself This is a conversation about mindset, ownership, and what it really takes to build something meaningful. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: /kmillerhershon Newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Michael Black, founder and CEO of Success Tutoring, one of Australia’s fastest-growing education franchises, and author of the bestselling book Millionaire Tutor. Michael shares his journey from starting a tutoring business in a spare room as a teenager to building a global education brand with over 100 locations across multiple countries, all before the age of 30. Now expanding into the United States, his story challenges many assumptions about age, experience, and what it really takes to succeed in business. Along the way, Michael realized that some of the most common advice entrepreneurs hear, like chasing “work-life balance” or diversifying too early, can actually slow growth. Instead, he built his success by focusing deeply on one thing, reinvesting consistently, and committing fully to a single vision without a backup plan. We talk about what it means to build a business early in life, how to stay focused in the face of endless opportunities, and why execution matters more than perfection. We explore: Why work-life integration may matter more than work-life balance The case for specialization before diversification Why perfection can delay progress—and what to do instead How reinvesting in your business fuels long-term growth The reality of imposter syndrome at every stage of success Why action, not just mindset, is the key to creating “luck.” Michael also shares honest insights about navigating uncertainty as a young founder, from negotiating his first commercial lease to hiring his first team, and how pushing through discomfort helped him grow into his role as a leader. This conversation is a reminder that success doesn’t come from having everything figured out—it comes from taking action, staying committed, and being willing to learn as you go. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on LinkedIn: /kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this milestone episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I’m celebrating a moment that feels both exciting and a little surreal—Episode 50. In less than a year, this podcast has grown into a space where leadership clichés come to retire and honest conversations about growth, business, and being human can actually take center stage. And while a podcast might look like a solo act from the outside, this episode is a reminder that it never really is. This special episode is a pause—a moment to celebrate the guests, the listeners, and the behind-the-scenes team who have helped shape the conversations that make this show what it is today. Along the way, I share a few reflections on what 50 episodes of challenging conventional thinking has taught me about leadership, growth, and the systems we often feel pressured to succeed within. We explore: Why conventional wisdom isn’t always wrong—but often incomplete How questioning leadership “rules” can lead to better outcomes The importance of honesty and vulnerability in real leadership conversations Why many capable people struggle inside systems that weren’t designed for them How curiosity and courage create space for better thinking The power of community in building meaningful conversations This episode is also a heartfelt thank-you to the incredible guests who brought their expertise and honesty to the show, the listeners who continue to share and support these conversations, and the production team who make sure each episode actually makes it from idea to published podcast. Reaching 50 episodes isn’t just a milestone—it’s proof that people are hungry for conversations that go beyond motivational clichés and surface-level leadership advice. If this podcast has helped you think differently, lead differently, or question the “shoulds” that shape the way we work and lead, consider sharing this episode with someone who might need the same reminder. Because fresh thinking isn’t a one-time event—it’s a practice. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on LinkedIn: /kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Diane Wheeler, founder and CEO of Home Hub AI, a tech startup building an ecosystem that helps homeowners track, protect, and grow the value of their homes. After spending more than 25 years in banking, Diane took an unexpected turn into entrepreneurship when she realized how little support homeowners receive after purchasing a home. Inspired by her own experience buying a house and feeling “ghosted” once the transaction was complete, she set out to build a smarter solution, one that puts the homeowner at the center. The result is Home Hub AI, an app designed to help homeowners organize documents, track maintenance, receive reminders, and make better decisions about their homes. With the help of an AI assistant named Val, the platform turns what can often feel like guesswork into a clear, organized system for managing one of the biggest investments people make. You can find the Home Hub AI app on the App Store, and Diane shared a special offer for listeners. If you download the app and message her to let her know you came from the podcast, she’ll give you a special deal. Along the way, Diane discovered that many of the traditional assumptions about technology founders, like needing to be a coder or technical expert, simply aren’t true. Instead, her strength lies in understanding real problems and designing solutions around the people experiencing them. We explore: • Why you don’t have to be a technical expert to build a tech company • How traditional corporate hierarchy can slow innovation and decision-making • The importance of designing solutions around real customer problems • Why working smarter, not longer, often produces better results • How creativity and downtime can actually improve productivity • What it means to lead with trust rather than control Diane also shares candid insights about imposter syndrome, navigating gender bias in both banking and tech, and learning to trust her voice as a founder. Her journey is a powerful example of how innovation often comes from asking simple questions and refusing to accept that “this is just how things are done.” This conversation is a reminder that entrepreneurship isn’t reserved for technical experts or Silicon Valley insiders. Sometimes the most meaningful innovation comes from someone who sees a problem clearly and has the courage to solve it. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on LinkedIn: /kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Tori Barker, founder of Creative Marketing, a digital marketing agency focused on helping coaches, consultants, and entrepreneurs increase their visibility and grow their businesses. Tori shares her journey from spending 15 years in corporate marketing to accidentally becoming an entrepreneur in 2019. What started as freelance work quickly evolved into a full-fledged agency built around helping “best-kept secret” business owners become seen, heard, and recognized in their industries. Along the way, Tori realized that many of the beliefs she carried from her corporate career—like the idea that simply working hard will lead to recognition and advancement—didn’t always hold true. Instead, she discovered that success often requires adaptability, visibility, and the willingness to rethink long-held assumptions about work and leadership. We talk about how shifting perspective, challenging internal narratives, and embracing growth can transform both business and personal confidence. We explore: - Why hard work alone doesn’t always lead to recognition - How perspective shapes what we believe is “hard” in business - The reality of imposter syndrome—even after years of experience - Why leadership works better when you individualize how you work with people - The dangers of micromanaging and becoming the bottleneck in your own company - How slowing down can actually create more clarity and better decision-making Tori also shares how changing the way she starts her day—moving away from the constant urgency of email and task lists—helped her show up more intentionally as a business owner and leader. By giving herself time to pause, reflect, and reconnect with her purpose, she found a healthier and more effective way to grow her business. This conversation is a reminder that entrepreneurship isn’t about following someone else’s formula for success. Sometimes the most powerful shift is simply giving yourself permission to slow down, trust your experience, and build a business that works for you. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on LinkedIn: /kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Evelyn Ackah, founder of Ackah Business Immigration Law, a cross-border immigration law firm supporting professionals and businesses across Canada and the United States. Evelyn shares her journey from starting her legal career at major firms in Toronto to building her own practice while adopting twins as a single parent. What began as a need for flexibility turned into a thriving firm focused on helping people and businesses grow beyond borders through compassionate, proactive immigration support. Along the way, Evelyn realized that much of the conventional advice she heard early in her career like keeping your head down and working endless hours wasn’t the path to the kind of leadership or life she wanted. Instead, she built success through relationships, visibility, and embracing what made her different. We talk about how redefining success helped her grow a firm of nearly twenty people across multiple countries while staying grounded in authenticity and service. We explore: - Why working harder isn’t always the key to success - How building relationships can matter more than long hours - The pressure many leaders feel to appear perfect - Why vulnerability can strengthen leadership and team culture - How personal growth directly impacts business success - The importance of creating a workplace where people feel supported Evelyn also shares how her perspective on leadership has evolved over the past 15 years from trying to be the “perfect boss” to embracing authenticity, openness, and trust. Her story is a powerful reminder that leadership isn’t about fitting into someone else’s mold. It’s about creating an environment where people can do their best work while still being fully human. This conversation is a thoughtful look at what it really takes to lead a successful business while staying aligned with your values and the life you want to build. Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on LinkedIn: /kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8Evelyn's Social Links: Website: https://www.ackahlaw.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ackah-business-immigration-law/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw7M2pQKwsRteq-nThuaELQ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AckahBusinessImmigrationLaw/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ackahlaw/ X: https://twitter.com/Ackahlaw/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@evelynackahlawyer Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ask-canada-immigration-lawyer-evelyn-ackah/id1461504289   #podcast #leadership #businessgrowth #unconventionalwisdom #personaldevelopment #UnconventionalWisdomAboutConventionalWisdomPodcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Maitjian Welke, founder and co-owner of CMI Solutions, a Silicon Valley based managed IT services and cybersecurity company she founded in 2008. Maitjian shares her journey from growing up in Indonesia to becoming a software engineer in Silicon Valley, leading global engineering teams at companies like IBM, Cisco, and VMware, and eventually building her own business alongside her husband. Along the way, she learned that some of the most common business advice, like “you must be a natural salesperson to succeed,” simply wasn’t true for her. Instead, Majun built her company by leaning into her real strength: solving problems and helping people. We talk about why trying to fit into someone else’s leadership mold can backfire, and how staying authentic can lead to stronger teams, better decisions, and more sustainable growth. We explore: - Why networking doesn’t have to mean working the room - How focusing on service can outperform chasing revenue - The difference between optics and real leadership - Why accuracy and overthinking can slow decision-making - How imposter syndrome shows up even after success - What it takes to lead without losing yourself Maitjian also shares how cybersecurity and AI are reshaping small businesses, why education and prevention matter more than panic, and what leaders need to understand about protecting their organizations in an increasingly digital world. This conversation is a reminder that leadership isn’t about following someone else’s formula; it’s about knowing your strengths, listening to your instincts, and building a business that reflects your values.Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.comConnect with me on LinkedIn: /kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8  #podcast #businessgrowth #unconventionalwisdom #personaldevelopment #businesscoaching Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Arash Shokouh, founder and managing principal of Off Tech, a managed IT services company supporting small businesses across the West Coast. Arash shares how cybersecurity has become one of the most urgent priorities for modern businesses and why “zero trust” is no longer optional. From business email compromise to AI-powered scams, we talk about how threats are evolving and what leaders can do to protect their organizations without becoming paranoid or frozen by fear. But this conversation goes far beyond technology. Arash opens up about leaving corporate life after watching his division disappear overnight, what it was like to start a business with no revenue, and how persistence — not perfection — helped him build a team of eight and a thriving company culture. We explore: - Why writing a business plan can be less useful than talking to real people - How networking is really a crash course in learning how to sell - The hidden cost of saying yes to the wrong clients - Why leading from the front matters more than delegating too fast - How imposter syndrome is something you move through, not around - The systems and habits that help leaders stay organized in a noisy world Arash also challenges the idea that “the customer is always right,” arguing instead that the right customers are the ones who fit your values, your culture, and the way you want to grow. This episode is a reminder that leadership isn’t about avoiding problems; it’s about building the confidence to face them, learning from them, and choosing progress over panic. Connect with me here:  Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com  Connect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon  Subscribe to newsletter: link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Wes Towers, founder of Uplift 360, a digital agency helping builders and trades create smarter websites and measurable growth through practical SEO and clear strategy. Wes shares how real progress in business often starts with a different question: What would this look like if it were easy? From cold plunges and breathwork to mindset shifts around selling and leadership, he explains how simplifying complex problems can unlock momentum, clarity, and better decisions. We talk about why desperation repels opportunity, how an abundance mindset changes the way you show up with clients, and why leaders don’t need to control everything they need to create space for their teams to think, contribute, and grow.   We also explore: • Why simplicity beats complexity in business • How scarcity thinking quietly sabotages results • The danger of confusing “hard” with “important” • Why great leaders make room for ideas, not just decisions • How personal branding and authenticity build trust • What imposter syndrome really looks like after success Wes also opens up about his struggles with self-doubt, burnout, and growth, reminding us that leadership isn’t about having it all figured out. It’s about staying curious, staying human, and continuing to evolve. This conversation is a powerful reminder that progress doesn’t come from grinding harder It comes from simplifying, trusting your people, and choosing growth over fear.   Connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Subscribe to the newsletter: https://link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Rob Broadhead, a veteran software architect, entrepreneur, and mentor with over 30 years of experience in technology and business. Rob is the founder of RB Consulting and the voice behind the Develop podcast, where he helps developers and business leaders turn ideas into real-world results. Rob and I talk about the hidden challenges of delegation, why “done is better than perfect” is harder to live by than it sounds, and how leaders can create environments where people are allowed to grow instead of being forced to conform. We explore the gap between building great systems and building great teams and why the best leaders focus less on themselves and more on clearing the path for others. We also dive into: - Why comfort can quietly limit growth - The danger of releasing products before they truly solve the problem - What imposter syndrome really looks like after success - Why feedback should flow in both directions - How reflection makes better leaders and stronger businesses - The difference between working in the business and working on it Rob shares how his own journey from developer to business owner reshaped how he thinks about leadership, success, and scaling responsibly. His perspective is a reminder that leadership isn’t about having all the answers. It’s about asking better questions, staying humble, and building teams that can thrive without you standing in the middle. This conversation is a powerful reminder that growth doesn’t come from control it comes from clarity, trust, and the willingness to evolve. connect with me here:  - Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com  - Connect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon  - Subscribe to newsletter: https: //link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Jacopo Iasiello, an entrepreneur who went from chasing a professional soccer career in Italy to rebuilding his life after a career-ending injury — and eventually creating success in business and real estate.Jacopo shares how failure shaped his mindset, including the moment he slept on the floor of his first failed shop rather than admit defeat, and how that experience taught him resilience, focus, and humility. We talk about why trying to do too many things at once can quietly sabotage growth, and why mastering one path before expanding is essential for long-term success.We explore:- Why intention plus attention determines the direction of your life- How failure can become a turning point instead of an ending- The danger of spreading your energy across too many projects- Why real leadership requires clarity, not ego- How communication and delegation shape strong teams- Why adding value to others is the foundation of meaningful successJacopo also opens up about imposter syndrome, self-doubt, and the inner battles that continue even after external success — reminding us that growth is not just about money or achievement, but about becoming stronger from the inside out.This conversation is a powerful reminder that success isn’t built in comfort it’s built through focus, resilience, and the courage to reinvent yourself when the plan falls apart.connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: https: //link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Mike Barefoot, a longtime entrepreneur and former staffing firm owner who has spent more than two decades placing professionals, leading teams, and navigating the realities of business growth.Mike shares how his career evolved from corporate recruiting into building his own IT staffing firm and why he’s now shifting into keynote speaking to pass along the lessons he learned the hard way. We talk about invisible career ceilings, why “just work hard” is incomplete advice, and how fear can be used as fuel instead of a roadblock.We also explore:- Why networking matters as much as effort- How comfort can quietly limit your growth- The danger of analysis paralysis- Why “trust and verify” is better leadership than blind trust- How imposter syndrome shows up even after success- Why balance, not burnout, leads to sustainable performanceThis conversation is a reminder that leadership isn’t about doing everything yourself it’s about knowing when to change direction, when to ask better questions, and when to choose growth over fear.connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.comConnect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: https: //link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Jodie Hill, founder of Thrive Law in the UK, a law firm built around employment law, culture, mental health, and neurodiversity. Jodie is reimagining what legal leadership can look like by working on the front end of workplace problems helping organizations prevent discrimination and burnout instead of only reacting once things have gone wrong.Jodie and I talk about why saying yes to everything can quietly pull you away from your purpose, how scaling too fast can be just as dangerous as not growing at all, and why the optics of success don’t always reflect what’s actually healthy or sustainable inside a business. We explore what it really means to build boundaries as a founder, how burnout reshapes leadership, and why creating space away from work can unlock better ideas than constant hustle ever will. We also dive into: - Why growth without intention can become a trap - How leaders can model psychological safety instead of just talking about it - What delegation really means when done well - Why vulnerability isn’t weakness it’s leadership - How imposter syndrome shows up even after success - What it takes to build a culture where people can truly thriveconnect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: https: //link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Mike Konrad, founder and CEO of Aqueous Technologies, who has spent more than three decades building a company in the electronics manufacturing industry. From starting in his garage to stepping away from day-to-day operations, Mike reflects on what long-term leadership has really taught him about growth, fear, and decision-making. Mike and I talk about why conventional marketing never worked for him, how education became his most powerful sales tool, and why pursuing growth without discipline nearly cost him profitability. He challenges the idea that success comes from doing more, moving faster, and getting bigger — and instead makes the case for better judgment, stronger values, and trust built over time.This conversation is a reminder that leadership isn’t about proving yourself — it’s about staying grounded, choosing wisely, and building something that can outlast your ego. connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.comConnect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: https: //link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Mike Chaput, founder of nSight, an IT managed services company serving California and Hawaii. Mike shares the lessons learned from building a business from scratch, recovering from early setbacks, and leading hundreds of employees while staying grounded in his values.We dive into how leaders can: * Use vision and values as the operating system for execution * Make company culture explicit and actionable * Recognize and appreciate people in meaningful ways to increase purpose and engagement * Balance self-awareness, humility, and confidence while steering a growing organization * Leverage unconventional practices, like affirmation exercises, to sharpen focus and influence outcomesMike also reflects on the personal side of leadership how philosophy, meditation, and thinking beyond self-interest can improve decision-making and inspire followership.He challenges the idea that leaders must have all the answers, instead suggesting that staying curious, reflective, and intentional is what drives sustainable growth.This conversation is a reminder that great leadership isn’t about perfection it’s about creating alignment, empowering people, and thinking bigger than yourself.connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: https: //link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Aaron Trahan, a former corporate executive turned leadership coach who found himself running billion-dollar organizations long before he ever expected to. Along the way, he made just about every leadership mistake possible and discovered the power of coaching, reflection, and feedback in the process.Aaron and I talk about why failure isn’t the opposite of success, how the right culture fit can unlock real potential, and why growth at all costs is often a dangerous illusion. We explore what it really means to scale yourself as a leader, how to build meaningful feedback loops, and why imposter syndrome might actually be a sign you’re doing something right.We also dive into:-Why comfort can be more dangerous than failure-The difference between optics and real leadership-How to grow without burning out your people-Why the best leaders never stop learningThis conversation is a reminder that leadership isn’t about protecting your image — it’s about staying curious, staying human, and choosing growth over ego.connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: https: //link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with John Lees co-founder of Copay Technologies, a PhD physicist, five-time Ironman, volunteer firefighter, husband, and father whose leadership lessons come from far beyond the boardroom.John and I talk about why pretending to have all the answers is overrated, how saying “we’ll figure it out” can actually build more trust, and why situational awareness matters more than rigid strategy. We explore how firefighting, endurance sports, and entrepreneurship all demand the same core skill: staying grounded while everything around you is changing.We also dive into:Why healthcare is intentionally complicated — and how transparency can change livesThe myth that great leaders must sacrifice everything elseWhat imposter syndrome really feels like behind the scenesHow knowing your North Star helps you pivot without losing yourselfThis conversation is a reminder that leadership isn’t about perfection — it’s about presence, curiosity, and choosing impact over ego.connect with me here: Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: https: //link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom about Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Vivic, a former medical doctor turned business leader, for a fascinating conversation about leadership, decision-making, and what it really takes to scale a business responsibly.Vivic shares his unconventional journey from practicing medicine including cosmetic surgery to building, scaling, and exiting multiple businesses. Today, he leads a growing network of cosmetic clinics across Australia, and he brings a rare perspective shaped by both clinical discipline and entrepreneurial risk-taking.We talk about the critical mindset shift required when moving from medicine where risk must be minimized to business where calculated risk can drive growth. Vivic explains how the grit developed through years in healthcare prepared him for the unpredictability of leadership, and why being comfortable with uncertainty is essential for long-term success.Throughout our conversation, we explore key topics such as:-Why “new and shiny” isn’t always better in business or healthcare-Making data-driven decisions instead of relying on gut instinct alone-Hiring fast, firing faster, and what most leaders get wrong about interviews-How to define success clearly so teams can actually meet expectations-Leading through mission, not ego or hierarchyVivic also shares a simple but powerful framework for decision-making asking whether something is legal, has upside, and is reversible offering practical guidance for leaders facing constant uncertainty.This episode is a thoughtful, grounded look at modern leadership, blending discipline with adaptability and wisdom with action. If you’re a founder, executive, or professional navigating complex decisions and rapid change, this conversation will challenge how you think and how you lead.connect with me here:Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin: / kmillerhershon Subscribe to newsletter: https: //link.kimmillerhershon.com/widget/form/aEdmdA1W5MhoMCMfy5O8 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom about Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Ashley Bundis for an honest and reflective conversation about leadership, growth, and the realities of navigating change over the course of a career.Ashley and I talk openly about what it means to evolve professionally when the path forward isn’t always clear or linear. She shares insights from her own journey, and together we explore how experience, perspective, and self-awareness shape the way we lead, make decisions, and define success for ourselves.We dig into important topics including:Trusting your instincts when facing career transitionsLetting go of outdated or inherited definitions of successHow confidence shifts over time—and how doubt still shows upThe role of self-awareness in effective leadershipNavigating change without forcing yourself into conventional expectationsThis conversation is thoughtful, grounded, and deeply relatable for anyone questioning their next step or reassessing what growth really looks like at this stage of life.If you’re looking for reassurance that you don’t need all the answers to move forward—just honesty, reflection, and the willingness to listen to yourself this episode is for you. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom about Conventional Wisdom, I sits down with Kelly Schuknecht, Founder and Chief Elevation Officer of Two Mile High Marketing, for a candid, deeply human conversation about leadership, entrepreneurship, and learning to trust yourself when there is no clear roadmap. Kelly shares her own unexpected career path from studying Spanish and spending 20 years working behind the scenes to taking the leap into entrepreneurship and stepping into the spotlight as a thought leader. She speaks openly about starting a business later in life, how being laid off became a turning point rather than a setback, and why waiting to feel “ready” can quietly keep you stuck.Together, Kim and Kelly reflect on the mindset shifts that happen when you move from employee to business owner especially the challenge of letting go of doing everything yourself and redefining what meaningful work really looks like as a leader. Kelly also opens up about her fear of public speaking, moments of imposter syndrome, and the uncomfortable growth required to build confidence, visibility, and momentum.This conversation also dives into: * Why you don’t need a linear career plan to succeed * The connection between storytelling, language, and thought leadership * Getting comfortable with sales by reframing it as service * Why personal branding can feel awkward but still be essential * Learning to listen to your intuition instead of external expectations * How leadership confidence grows through action, not perfectionListen, learn, and don’t forget to share with someone who needs this! Listen on Spotify @Kim Miller - Hershon https://open.spotify.com/show/3roK1Ay... Listen on Apple Podcast @Kim Miller - Hershon https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...Website :https://www.kimmillerhershon.comConnect with me on Linkedin : / kmillerhershon Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom about Conventional Wisdom, I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Cat How, the Co -Founder and Executive Creative Director of the global branding agency How and How. Cat’s journey from studying literature to shaping one of the most admired creative studios reminds us that careers don’t have to follow the rules to be remarkable.Our conversation explores the kind of leadership that feels both modern and deeply human. Cat opens up about why she believes transparency especially around money is a non-negotiable part of healthy company culture, and how she and her husband/partner build a team where creativity can truly thrive. One of my favorite topics we dive into is her “Goldilocks” approach to team size and structure, and how it helps keep creative teams aligned, supported, and empowered.We also discuss the realities behind the scenes: navigating imposter syndrome, embracing flexibility as the business expands, and the underrated power of documentation. Cat brings such refreshing honesty and clarity to every topic—this episode is packed with insights for leaders, creatives, and anyone building something meaningful.Key Topics We Explore:Cat’s unconventional transition from literature to designHow she built How and How into a globally recognized creative agencyThe importance of transparent leadership, especially around payWhy documentation is essential for a growing creative teamThe “Goldilocks size” approach to team structureHow culture is intentionally created and maintained across continentsNavigating performance reviews and open conversations about moneyThis conversation is packed with practical insights and unconventional lessons for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and anyone rethinking what success truly means.Listen on Spotify @Kim Miller - Hershon https://open.spotify.com/show/3roK1Ay... Listen on Apple Podcast @Kim Miller - Hershon https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website :https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin : / kmillerhershon Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom about Conventional Wisdom, I had the pleasure of sitting down with my friend and incredible business leader, Esther Polson, Founder and CEO of Rare Solutions, LLC. We had a deeply insightful and candid conversation about her career journey, the importance of marketing operations, and her concept of a “Blank Slate Day”a way to reset, refocus, and rejuvenate.Esther also shared her perspective on leadership, including the pitfalls of fostering a “family” work environment and why mutual respect, rather than fear, is the foundation of a healthy workplace culture. We talked about personal and professional growth, tackling imposter syndrome, and the invaluable lesson of understanding business finances. Her insights were honest, practical, and inspiring, and I can’t wait for you to hear them.What You’ll Learn in This Episode How a Blank Slate Day can reset focus and clarity for leadersWhy mutual respect, not fear, should guide workplace cultureLessons on financial literacy and understanding business operationsHow to navigate credit, recognition, and accountability in the workplaceLeadership strategies for handling underperformance and delivering tough feedbackInsights from tech company culture and the dot-com boom and bustOvercoming imposter syndrome and building self-confidenceThis conversation is packed with practical insights and unconventional lessons for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and anyone rethinking what success truly means. Listen, learn, and don’t forget to share with someone who needs this!Listen on Spotify @Kim Miller - Hershon https://open.spotify.com/show/3roK1Ay...Listen on Apple Podcast @Kim Miller - Hershon https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...Website :https://www.kimmillerhershon.comConnect with me on Linkedin : / kmillerhershon Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with David Allred for a powerful and honest conversation about leadership, vulnerability, and what it means to truly show up for yourself and the people you serve.David shares the lessons he has learned across a career shaped by curiosity, resilience, and the desire to create meaningful human connection. We explore the importance of integrity in leadership, why discomfort is often the doorway to growth, and how to navigate the moments that challenge your identity both personally and professionally.We also talk about the power of telling the truth, embracing your authentic self, and understanding the deeper motivations that drive your decisions. David’s perspective on creating trust, listening deeply, and leading with intention offers practical wisdom for anyone looking to elevate their career, relationships, or inner life.This conversation is filled with warmth, insight, and the kind of honesty that inspires transformation. I cannot wait for you to hear it.What you will learn in this episode✨ How vulnerability strengthens leadership and builds trust✨ Why discomfort is often the key to personal and professional growth✨ How to stay true to yourself in moments of high pressure✨ The importance of self reflection and honest communication✨ How to navigate identity, purpose, and the pursuit of meaningful work✨ Practical insights for leading with clarity, connection, and intention Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Giorgio Natali, Head of Software Engineering and a leader in AI analytics, for a conversation that left me both inspired and deeply reflective about the future of technology and our place in it as humans. Giorgio and I explore the idea of digital dignity, what ethical AI looks like in practice, and how companies can build systems that protect people rather than exploit them. We talk openly about leadership, empathy, vulnerability, and why so many organizations struggle to create environments where people genuinely thrive. I also loved hearing about the unconventional habits that have shaped his career, his passion for DJing, and the surprising ways creativity influences his approach to engineering and leadership. Inside this episode, I invite you to explore ✨ What digital dignity truly means and why it matters today ✨ How to think about AI ethics, privacy, and responsible data use ✨ Why empathy, humility, and psychological safety are essential in modern leadership ✨ The realities of navigating corporate cultures and finding the environment that fits you and so much more. This conversation is rich with insight, honesty, and real world wisdom, and I am excited for you to hear it. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with John Suarez, Senior Director of Client Operations at SmartBook Media, to explore what it really means to lead effectively without losing yourself in the process John and I talk about leadership, focus, and the underrated power of saying no plus how to stay productive and human in a fast-paced work environment. We also dive into what makes genuine connections at work so valuable, how to balance effort and attention, and why recording your work sessions might just transform your productivity. In this episode, you’ll hear us talk about: Rethinking leadership and productivity Finding balance between work and personal life Building real, meaningful connections Overcoming imposter syndrome and staying confident If you’ve ever wondered how to stay effective and authentic in your career, this conversation is packed with insights you’ll want to revisit. Learn more from John: Check out his book The Marketer’s Manual for Generative AI: Innovate, Automate, Elevate  a practical guide to using AI to think smarter, work faster, and create more impact. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

in this episode of *Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom*, I sit down with the brilliant and unapologetically authentic Patricia DeFonte, founder of DeFonte Law PC an estate planning firm that’s as values-driven as it is successful. Patricia shares how she built a firm that truly *runs on rails one that reflects her philosophy of small, continuous improvement (Kaizen), deep trust, and human-centered systems. We explore what it really means to lead by listening, and why the best leaders are often the quietest ones in the room. We also talk about: * The one outdated leadership belief she’d throw out and what she’d replace it with. * How defining your company culture is the foundation for everything that follows. * Why rest, saying no, and curating who you spend time with might just be the ultimate growth strategy. * Real talk about conferences, imposter syndrome, and giving yourself permission to leave the room. This conversation is packed with practical insights and unconventional lessons for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and anyone rethinking what success truly means. Listen, learn, and don’t forget to share with someone who needs this! Listen on Spotify @Kim Miller - Hershon https://open.spotify.com/show/3roK1Ay... Listen on Apple Podcast @Kim Miller - Hershon https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website :https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of 'Unconventional Wisdom about Conventional Wisdom,' host Kim Miller-Hershon welcomes  Heledd Wyn, a solicitor from the UK, for a lively discussion on estate planning, leadership, and personal growth. Heledd shares her journey from following conventional business wisdom to embracing her true self. The conversation covers the importance of having an estate plan, the challenges of managing high-expectation clients, and the power of networking on LinkedIn. Kim and Heledd explore: - How personal growth and mindset shape professional success - The power of LinkedIn for networking and visibility - Overcoming imposter syndrome and learning to delegate - The freedom that comes from admitting you don’t have all the answers This conversation is packed with practical insights and unconventional lessons for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and anyone rethinking what success truly means. Listen, learn, and don’t forget to share with someone who needs this! Listen on Spotify @Kim Miller - Hershon  https://open.spotify.com/show/3roK1Ay..... Listen on Apple Podcast @Kim Miller - Hershon https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website :https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin : / kmillerhershon Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of 'Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom,' host Kim Miller-Hershon chats with Joe Popper, the 'OG of IT' from the Popper Tech team. With 35 years in the finance tech industry, Joe shares insights on leadership, employee engagement, and the integration of AI in the workplace. From discussing the importance of clear communication to the evolving nature of work post-pandemic, Joe provides valuable lessons on maintaining resilience and the significance of understanding your employees' needs. Together, Kim and Michael dive into topics such as: Leadership Challenges and Miscommunications Employee Development and Leadership Changing Rules of Employment Redefining Work in the Office vs. Home Overcoming Imposter Syndrome in Business This conversation is packed with practical insights and unconventional lessons for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and anyone rethinking what success truly means. Listen, learn, and don’t forget to share with someone who needs this! Listen on Spotify @Kim Miller - Hershon https://open.spotify.com/show/3roK1Ay... Listen on Apple Podcast @Kim Miller - Hershon https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website :https://www.kimmillerhershon.com Connect with me on Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this inspiring conversation, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Valerie Fenchel and she shares how her unique perspective as both a leader and a mother helped her redefine what it means to manage with empathy, clarity, and heart. Together, they explore how the lessons learned at home can transform the workplace — and why emotional intelligence, curiosity, and courage are essential for truly effective leadership. In this episode, you’ll learn: * How Valerie’s Disney career shaped her leadership philosophy * Why “managing like a mother” means leading with care and accountability * The parallels between raising kids and building great teams Whether you’re a manager, a parent, or someone passionate about people-first leadership, this episode will remind you that great management starts with genuine connection. Listen, learn, and don’t forget to share with someone who needs this! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom about Conventional Wisdom, Kim sits down with Michael Haskell, founder of Navitas Consulting, to explore what it means to challenge traditional business thinking and lead with intention. Broadcasting from Hong Kong, Michael shares his international journey across the Asia Pacific region and how he built a company that helps businesses access top finance and IT talent efficiently and cost effectively. Together, Kim and Michael dive into topics such as: *Debunking common myths about offshoring and what global collaboration really looks like. * Leadership through curiosity and how asking better questions can lead to smarter outcomes. *The link between health, clarity, and effective decision-making in leadership. and so much more. This conversation is packed with practical insights and unconventional lessons for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and anyone rethinking what success truly means. Listen, learn, and don’t forget to share with someone who needs this! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I step away from my usual guest interviews to share a personal story. I open up about my recent journey of writing a book, including the self-doubt and imposter syndrome that came with it. I also reflect on the challenges of promoting myself, the importance of stepping outside my comfort zone, and the encouragement I felt when a publisher expressed interest in my manuscript. Beyond my own experience, I explore the broader idea of what it means to “play a bigger game” in our professional lives. This episode is an invitation to confront your fears, embrace discomfort, and keep moving toward your aspirations.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom about Conventional Wisdom, host Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with her friend and commercial real estate attorney, Katie Phetteplace of Star Finley, to unpack how authenticity, leadership, and resilience can transform the way we approach business and life. Katie takes us on her journey from a tough cold-calling job to becoming a successful attorney who leads with empathy and collaboration. Along the way, she opens up about her worst job experiences, the career epiphany that reshaped her path, and why building genuine client relationships matters more than polished facades. Listeners will hear candid reflections on: * How the hardest jobs can shape long-term resilience * The value of authenticity in networking and business development * A collaborative leadership style that empowers rather than intimidates * Handling mistakes with grace and turning them into growth moments * Confronting imposter syndrome in high-stakes industries With her down-to-earth perspective, Katie reminds us that professionalism isn’t about being perfect, it’s about showing up as your whole self, leading by example, and finding strength in vulnerability     Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, host Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Aurora Winter bestselling author, speaker, and founder of Same Page Publishing*. Aurora helps entrepreneurs, executives, and professionals clarify their message, write their books faster, and leverage storytelling to attract clients, investors, and media attention. Aurora shares: Why clarity is more powerful than complicated marketing The role of storytelling in winning trust and credibility Her surprising shortcut for writing a book in record time Practical strategies for turning expertise into influence 🌐 Learn more about Aurora’s work, books, and programs at AuroraWinter.com. If you’ve ever wondered how to stand out in a noisy world and share your story with confidence, this episode is packed with actionable insights you can use right away. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.