Voyage Clinics Podcast

It’s no secret that exercise is good for your body and mental health. But did you know it’s also good for your brain? Dr. John Sanders sits down with Dr. Allen Parcell, a professor of exercise science, to explore the connections between movement, brain health, and overall well-being. Together, they unpack how exercise impacts not just physical health, but also cognitive function, emotional regulation, and long-term quality of life. Dr. Parcell brings clarity to the “why” behind movement, reframing it as a foundational pillar of lifelong health.He shares his journey into exercise physiology and dives into the science of how the body and brain respond to physical activity. This conversation addresses common barriers to exercise and offers practical strategies to build consistency and support long-term motivation. Everyone has what it takes to live an active life—no matter your age or starting point.Chapters[Start] Meet Dr. Allen Parcell: Dr. John Sanders introduces Dr. Allen Parcell, who shares his background and experience in exercise science.02:08 The Science Behind Muscle & Movement: Current research on muscle contractions, and even how low-intensity movement can have great benefits.11:45 Exercise and Brain Health: How movement supports brain function, including neuroplasticity, learning, memory, and emotional regulation.24:54 Aging, Cognition, and Longevity: How consistent physical activity can help reduce the risk of cognitive decline and enhance quality of life as we age.35:49 Motivation and Building Consistency: Practical strategies for overcoming mental resistance to exercise, and finding intrinsic motivation that builds sustainable habits over time.Links & Resourceshttps://voyageclinics.com/ Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John Sanders is joined by Katie Garner to talk about creative expression and its effects on mental and emotional health. Katie shares how art became a meaningful outlet for her during seasons of intense motherhood, grief, and personal hardship. They discuss the science of neuroplasticity and how it gives biological credibility to Katie’s experiences with art and her emotional well-being. Dr. Sanders makes the compelling case that creativity is not just for artists, but actually a fundamental human need with measurable effects on the brain.The two talk about everything from fluid art as emotional processing to journaling techniques for people looking for an outlet. This combination of personal experience and neuroscience offers a grounded, relatable perspective on how emotional well-being and our lived experiences are tied together. Creative expression—even in simple or imperfect forms—helps us to become more whole.Chapters[Start] Katie's Story: Dr. Sanders introduces Katie Garner, and she shares her story of navigating difficult experiences and discovering art as a form of support.05:20 Art and Neuroplasticity: The science of brain health and how creative activity acts like a vacation for the brain.13:10 Art as Therapy: How art is being used in various workshops to help people process and heal from addiction, grief, or other hard challenges.39:12 Practical Tools for Getting Started: Katie recommends a specific book as the best entry point for anyone wanting to reconnect with their creativity.43:16 Art in the Burn ICU: Katie shares a personal story about her daughter in the ICU and how art helped her through that difficult time.Links & Resourceshttps://voyageclinics.com/ http://katiegarnerart.com/https://www.instagram.com/katiegarnerart/ https://www.facebook.com/KtAGarner/ Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

We all want our skin to look good. But healthy skin is about more than appearance—it matters more for your overall health than you may think.Dr. John Sanders sits down with Dr. Tom Barlow for a conversation about skin health, melanoma risk, and the growing influence of modern skincare trends. They walk through what people should actually pay attention to when it comes to protecting their skin—focusing on what matters most for long-term health.They explore both the science and the real-world behaviors that are contributing to rising skin cancer rates, especially in places like Utah. From early detection strategies to the potential risks of certain emerging products, this episode offers clear, practical guidance while reinforcing a core message: taking care of your skin isn’t just cosmetic—it’s essential.Chapters[Start] Skin Health & Screening: Dr. John Sanders introduces Dr. Tom Barlow, and they discuss the importance of regular skin checks and early detection.04:25 Understanding Melanoma: A breakdown of what melanoma is and how UV exposure and genetics contribute to risk.11:41 Sunscreen and Skin Cancer: The truth behind sunscreen along with how much sunlight is considered safe.25:34 Involving Oncology: Discussing the different types and stages of melanoma and oncology involvement.33:07 New Tests and Procedures: A look at advancing technologies and how they are changing skin cancer detection and treatment.Links & Resourceshttps://voyageclinics.com/ Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In today’s world, it feels like every ache and pain needs a quick fix. But what if there were simple, sustainable ways to support your health day to day?Dr. John Sanders brings on his good friend Brad Dangerfield for a conversation on how to support overall health through practical, everyday habits. While modern medicine is necessary and helpful for a number of conditions, there is growing interest in how lifestyle and natural approaches can also play a role in long-term health. John and Brad talk about all things related to health, weight loss, better nutrition, better sleep, and other health topics to show you how simple changes in your life could unlock years of life.Brad shares his insights on the value of both modern medicine and natural approaches, along with personal experiences that have shaped his views. Rather than positioning one against the other, this episode emphasizes a more balanced approach—showing how the two can work together to support better health outcomes.Chapters[Start] Introducing Brad Dangerfield: Dr. John Sanders introduces Brad Dangerfield, and they dive into their thoughts on medicine.08:18 Overcoming Mental Blocks: Tips on how to strengthen the mind, memory, and overall enhancing quality of life.18:59 The Powers of Natural Medicines: A look at the benefits and risks regarding both natural and modern medicine practices.27:46 General Wellness: Common things to do every day to enhance your general wellness and keep your body healthy.46:50 Back to the Fundamentals: Going back to the basics of health and bodily functions to increase the quality of living.Links & Resourceshttps://voyageclinics.com/ Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Staying in the hospital can be an unnerving experience for many. The work of chaplains exists exactly for that moment—to sit with patients in the uncertainty and make sure they don't have to face it alone.Dr. John Sanders sits down with chaplain and counselor Ronda Weaver for a thoughtful conversation about healing, connection, and the power of simply being heard. Drawing from decades of experience, Ronda shares her unique path into chaplaincy and the profound role it plays in both clinical and everyday settings.Together, they explore how emotional validation, presence, and storytelling can shape a person’s healing journey. Ronda now supports patients in processing and making meaning from their experiences through things like psychedelic integration. This episode highlights how listening—without agenda or judgment—can be one of the most powerful tools in medicine.Chapters[Start] Introducing Ronda: Dr. John Sanders introduces Ronda Weaver, a chaplain and friend, to share her story.01:59 Becoming a Chaplain: Ronda recounts her journey to becoming a chaplain and what was required to enter that field.10:56 The Power of Chaplaincy: A look at the many ways chaplains can be utilized in the medical field, as well as in life.25:47 Psychedelic Integration: How psychedelic-assisted therapy may support emotional healing and brain flexibility.32:33 Healing and Human Connection: How chaplaincy and counseling work together with modern treatments to support long-term healing.Links & Resourceshttps://voyageclinics.com/ Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Technology is changing the game in every aspect of life, including medicine. But how often do we stop and look at how much technology reflects our own human behaviors?Dr. John Sanders welcomes psychiatrist Dr. Brian Nyberg, for a thoughtful conversation about mental health, technology, and human connection. They discuss how rapidly advancing tools like AI are not just changing medicine, but also revealing deeper truths about how we think, learn, and relate to others. Dr. Nyberg offers his insights into how AI systems mirror human behavior, including our tendencies toward compliance, conflict, and the need for trust and safety in meaningful interactions.They also explore the psychological impact of technology and social media on the nervous. Dr. Sanders and Dr. Nyberg discuss how chronic stress and lack of recovery can gradually disconnect individuals from their emotional core. They highlight how things like stillness, nature exposure, and intentional reflection can help restore balance. This episode offers a grounded reminder that healing and growth often begin by slowing down and engaging more authentically with others.Chapters[Start] Dr. Brian Nyberg: Dr. John Sanders introduces Dr. Brian Nyberg, and they begin the conversation.02:50 AI as a Mirror: How AI systems reflect human behavior, and how our interactions with them can shape what they become.09:32 Connection Before Correction: A look at attachment theory and why emotional safety is required before change can occur.20:32 The Cost of the Internet: How social media and algorithms can overstimulate the brain, fueling emotional dysregulation.37:37 The Human Experience: The role of awe and wonder in mental health, and how these moments can help people reconnect.Links & Resourceshttps://voyageclinics.com/ Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

What would you do if your child developed a sudden rash, joint pain, and abdominal discomfort—weeks after a seemingly harmless illness? Dr. John Sanders sits down with third-year medical student Garrett Whiting to unpack a condition many people—and even many clinicians—rarely encounter: IgA vasculitis (formerly known as Henoch-Schönlein purpura). What makes this conversation especially compelling is the real-world context: after years of not seeing a single case, Dr. Sanders encountered two within a matter of weeks, prompting a deeper dive into why rare diseases sometimes appear in clusters—and how to recognize them when they do.Together, they break down this complex condition into clear, approachable terms, walking through how it develops, what symptoms to watch for, and why it can look alarming but is often self-limiting. From distinctive skin findings to joint pain and gastrointestinal symptoms, Dr. Sanders and Garrett connect the dots between textbook knowledge and real clinical presentation. This episode offers both reassurance and insight, helping listeners better understand how the immune system can behave in unexpected ways—and why careful monitoring is key.Chapters[Start] Meet Garrett Whiting & Why Rare Diseases Cluster: Introduction to Garrett, his background, and the surprising reality that rare conditions often appear in clusters.06:12 A Real Case of IgA Vasculitis: A step-by-step clinical case showing how this condition typically presents in children.08:18 What Is IgA Vasculitis? (And Why the Name Changed): Breaking down the disease, immunoglobulins, and how immune complexes lead to vascular inflammation.19:29 Recognizing the Symptoms (The Classic Presentation): The hallmark rash, joint pain, abdominal symptoms, and what makes this condition distinct.23:27 Kidney Involvement & Why Monitoring Matters: The most serious complication, risk factors to watch for, and how long-term follow-up helps protect patients.32:07 Treatment, Steroids & What Actually Helps: When intervention is needed, how steroids may be used, and practical management strategies for symptom relief.Links & Resourceshttps://voyageclinics.com/ Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Health coaching, mindset, and resilience take center stage as Dr. John Sanders talks with Jared Smithson about building better habits and creating lasting personal change. Jared shares how grief, weight gain, coaching, and hard-earned self-awareness shaped his approach to health, growth, and living with more intention.The conversation explores creator mindset, habit change, emotional regulation, conscious leadership, and the challenge of helping kids grow without rescuing them from discomfort. It is a grounded discussion on personal development, health and wellness, parenting, coaching, and the kind of resilience that is built over time.Chapters[Start] Jared Smithson’s Health Journey: From athlete identity and weight gain to grief, health struggles, and a new path forward.05:57 Why Dissatisfaction Can Drive Change: How discomfort can become the starting point for vision, growth, and personal transformation.16:06 Creator Mindset, Habits, and Coaching: Jared explains above-the-line thinking, growth mindset, and the role of coaching in real change.33:05 Raising Resilient Kids Without Over-Rescuing: A practical look at parenting, youth coaching, anxiety, and building resilience through discomfort.Links & Resourceshttps://voyageclinics.com/ The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership by Jim Dethmer, Diana Chapman, and Kaley Warner KlempThe Conscious Leadership GroupAtomic Habits by James ClearMan’s Search for Meaning by Viktor FranklDisclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Our brain is capable of change. So how can we rewire ourselves for better emotional health?Dr. John Sanders looks at two powerful drivers of mental and emotional health: emotional intelligence and neuroplasticity. Drawing from clinical experience and personal reflection, he breaks down what emotional intelligence really means and how our ability to utilize it can shape our overall well-being. He also explores how chronic stress can quietly diminish these capacities over time.Dr. Sanders also touches on the brain’s ability to adapt and grow (called neuroplasticity), and explains how it directly supports emotional resilience and long-term health. By using examples and practical tools, he offers actionable ways to improve both emotional awareness and cognitive flexibility. This episode serves as both an educational overview and a grounded reminder that growth is always possible when we create space to reflect, recover, and recalibrate.Chapters[Start] About Dr. John Sanders: An introduction to Dr. John Sanders and his work and hobbies.02:45 What Is Emotional Intelligence?: Defining emotional intelligence and its four core components.08:42 Growing Emotional Intelligence: Practical ways to grow emotional awareness in everyday life.16:24 Emotional Intelligence Tools: An introduction to the “RULER” framework and other tools to help build emotional intelligence.26:44 Rewiring the Brain for Growth: Different physical practices that can promote healthier brain growth patterns over time.Links & Resourceshttps://voyageclinics.com/Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinics Podcast, Dr. John Sanders welcomes presence coach Ryan Hokanson for a powerful conversation about self-connection, emotional awareness, and living a more grounded life. Ryan shares his journey from growing up on a ranch in Nebraska to dedicating his life to helping others cultivate presence and self-love. The discussion begins with reflections on grit, hard work, and how modern life often pulls us away from emotional connection. Together, they explore how many high-achieving individuals—even those who are outwardly successful—struggle to experience genuine joy because they’ve lost touch with their inner emotional world.A central theme of the episode is the cost of emotional suppression. Ryan explains how, beginning in early childhood, subtle experiences teach us to mute our emotions—especially sadness and vulnerability. Over time, this narrowing of emotional expression limits not only our pain but also our capacity for joy. Dr. Sanders relates this to the culture of medicine, where high performance, speed, and left-brain analytical thinking dominate, often at the expense of emotional processing. They discuss the importance of slowing down, breathing deeply, and asking reflective questions like, “What do I need right now?” as a pathway back to presence. Ryan emphasizes that fulfillment does not come from external achievements but from reconnecting to the self in the present moment.The episode also explores practical tools for cultivating presence: repairing relationships through sincere apology, regulating emotions rather than suppressing them, subtracting distractions (like social media overexposure), and learning to be fully with the person in front of you. One of Ryan’s most powerful insights is that the most important person in your life is the one you are with right now—and that includes yourself. By shifting from fixing and controlling to creating and connecting, Dr. Sanders shares how his own parenting transformed when he released the belief that it was his job to “fix” everything. Ultimately, the conversation invites listeners to slow down, embrace emotional intelligence, and rediscover contentment—not somewhere in the future, but here and now.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinics Podcast, Dr. John welcomes Paige Moore back for a second conversation, exploring her evolving journey through medicine, athletics, and personal health. Paige shares her educational path—from a neuroscience degree at BYU, to a master’s in exercise science and athletic training, and now her final year at an osteopathic medical school as she prepares to match into Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation. She reflects on how her early experiences as a gymnast and cheerleader, coupled with a history of concussions, shaped her fascination with the brain, movement, and healing. Throughout the discussion, the importance of mentorship, adaptability, and listening to one’s internal sense of calling in medicine is emphasized.The conversation then moves into a deeply personal and clinically rich discussion about connective tissue disorders, particularly hypermobility spectrum disorders and Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. Paige recounts decades of chronic pain, instability, and inconclusive testing before finally receiving validation through a clinical diagnosis during her athletic training years. This moment reframed her experience—not as unexplained suffering, but as a condition that could be understood and managed. Dr. John and Paige discuss how hypermobility often goes undiagnosed, the overlap with conditions like Marfan syndrome, the role of family genetics, and why clinical diagnosis and education are often more impactful than expensive genetic testing when treatment plans remain the same.The latter half of the episode focuses on practical and hopeful management strategies, centering on strength training, stability, movement, and mindset. Paige details her structured approach to resistance training—balancing push/pull movements, combining dynamic and isometric work, and avoiding end-range instability—to reduce pain and calm her nervous system. Together, they explore the emotional toll of chronic pain, the risks of victim mentality, and the importance of psychological resilience. The episode closes with a powerful message: movement is medicine, acceptance is not surrender, and understanding one’s body empowers patients to live full, meaningful lives despite chronic conditions.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this solo episode of the Voyage Clinics Podcast, Dr. John Sanders walks listeners through cold and flu season with a practical, experience-based lens rooted in family medicine. He begins by sharing his background as a rural and small-town physician, setting the tone for a grounded, community-oriented discussion. With the holidays approaching, Dr. John frames the episode as an educational—but approachable—conversation meant to help families better understand what’s circulating during winter, how viruses spread, and why nuance in healthcare decisions matters. He emphasizes that this is not personal medical advice, but rather guidance to help listeners have more informed conversations with their own doctors.Dr. Sanders breaks down the basics of virology in plain language, explaining vectors of transmission, incubation periods, contagiousness versus virulence, and why immune maturity matters—especially when comparing children and adults. He clarifies common misconceptions around viral spread, immunity, and herd immunity, using COVID and influenza as case studies while advocating for thoughtful, risk-based decision-making. He explains why some viruses cause long-lasting immunity while others do not, why kids tend to get sicker than adults, and how stress, sleep, nutrition, and movement play a critical role in immune resilience. Throughout, he reinforces prevention as the cornerstone of staying healthy during cold and flu season.The latter half of the episode focuses on practical symptom management for common colds, influenza, and GI viruses. Dr. John outlines evidence-based approaches to mucus management, hydration, fever control, and when to consider medical evaluation—particularly for high-risk populations. He cautions against overuse of combination cold medicines, discusses supplements and natural remedies with an evidence-informed perspective, and highlights trusted resources for both patients and physicians. The episode closes with a reminder that rest, stress reduction, exercise, and joy are essential components of health—and that caring for the immune system is as much about lifestyle and connection as it is about medicine.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinics Podcast, Dr. John Sanders is joined by Dr. Bernard, a family physician in Florida, to explore the deeply human side of medicine. They begin by reflecting on their medical training, shared roots in family medicine, and the importance of balancing science with the art of care. Dr. Bernard describes her educational path—including her background in sociology—and explains how social sciences, psychology, and even theater have shaped her ability to connect with patients. Together, they emphasize that medicine is not purely technical; it is relational, creative, and profoundly influenced by empathy and communication.Dr. Bernard then shares her powerful personal journey through rural medicine, federally qualified health centers, and hospital-based practice. She describes caring for high-need populations, navigating intense emotional trauma, and experiencing compassion fatigue and burnout within rigid, bureaucratic healthcare systems. Despite changing environments—from underserved migrant communities to affluent hospital settings—the systemic issues remained the same. This led to a dark period marked by depression and feeling trapped in a profession she once loved, ultimately prompting her to seek help and question whether she could continue practicing medicine at all.The conversation culminates in a hopeful discussion of direct primary care (DPC) as a model that restores trust, time, autonomy, and healing—for both patients and physicians. Dr. Bernard explains how DPC allowed her to reclaim joy in medicine, build meaningful relationships, and rediscover her identity beyond burnout. Together, she and Dr. Sanders explore themes of physician wellness, emotional intelligence, cognitive behavioral tools, motivational interviewing, and the therapeutic power of trust. The episode closes with a shared conviction that rebuilding healthcare through relationship-centered care can heal trauma, sustain physicians, inspire future doctors, and ultimately bring humanity back to medicine.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinics Podcast, Dr. John welcomes longtime friend and mentor Gary Peterson, who is wrapping up a remarkable 38-year career at O.C. Tanner. Gary shares his journey from intern to senior leader and reflects on how the company transformed from a top-down, autocratic manufacturing culture into a people-centered, team-based organization. O.C. Tanner’s mission of employee recognition and meaningful connection became especially vital during COVID, when companies sought new ways to engage remote teams. Throughout the conversation, Gary emphasizes that recognition systems only work when they are built on genuine respect, trust, and a healthy organizational culture.Gary dives deeply into leadership evolution, describing how empowering the people closest to the work led to dramatic improvements in quality, ownership, and morale. He recounts pivotal moments—including being coached to stop solving everyone else’s problems—that helped him recognize his own blind spots. By shifting managers from controllers to coaches and fostering regular human connection through simple practices like weekly one-on-one conversations, O.C. Tanner cultivated a workplace where employees felt confident, capable, and valued. The result was not just a stronger business, but people who carried that confidence into their families and communities.The discussion broadens beyond business into family life, parenting, emotional intelligence, and neuroplasticity. Dr. John and Gary explore how the same principles—curiosity over judgment, vulnerability, self-reflection, and unconditional love—apply to marriages, raising teenagers, and personal growth. Gary shares practical self-evaluation tools, daily habits, and the profound impact of learning not to take offense, particularly in his marriage. The episode closes with a powerful reminder: every person we encounter has something to teach us, and when leaders create space for trust, forgiveness, and growth, individuals—and entire organizations—can truly become their best selves.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

This episode of the Voyage Clinics Podcast opens with a powerful and intimate poem by Shaunna Sanders, “Martyrs and Saints,” which reframes motherhood away from exhaustion, self-denial, and moralized sacrifice. The poem challenges cultural and religious narratives that equate worthiness with sleeplessness, constant service, and self-erasure, offering instead a vision of womanhood rooted in rest, boundaries, self-awareness, and divine reflection. It serves as the emotional foundation for a broader conversation about motherhood, identity, and calling.Dr. Amanda Primensberger joins Dr. John Sanders and Shaunna to explore the realities of navigating motherhood alongside demanding professional roles in medicine. They reflect on generational expectations of “doing it all,” the loss of self that can occur in both traditional and professional paths, and the pressure placed on women to sacrifice without limits. Dr. Primensberger shares personal stories from medical training and early motherhood that highlight the moral injury, burnout, and family strain caused by rigid healthcare systems that prioritize productivity over humanity.The conversation culminates in Dr. Primensberger’s decision to leave traditional healthcare and build a Direct Primary Care practice aligned with her values. By choosing flexibility, transparency, and relational care, she reclaimed presence at home and meaning at work, while modeling courage and sacrifice for her children. The episode ultimately affirms that choosing boundaries, embracing seasons of life, and pursuing alignment over martyrdom can lead to deeper connection, better care, and a more sustainable, integrated life.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John talks with longtime friend Samuel Crane, a credit union CEO and entrepreneur from Moab, about Sam’s multi-year health journey from burnout, brain fog, and obesity to intentional, sustainable wellness. Sam describes hitting a breaking point when he couldn’t remember the word “cucumber” at Subway, realizing that his stress, extra weight, and poor diet were threatening his future with his family. That wake-up call led Sam to start with exercise, mountain biking with an “accountability buddy,” and then move into a strict whole-food “cleanse” of meat and vegetables, which brought intense sugar/carb withdrawals but meaningful progress.As Sam shares his journey, the friends dive into how modern processed food and constant overextension create a “metabolic syndrome” culture, people who are technically “well” but tired, foggy, overweight, and inflamed. Dr. John explains the science of mitochondrial function, inflammation, cortisol, and the benefits of morning exercise and intermittent fasting (eating in a shorter window, especially earlier in the day). Sam shares how he used intermittent fasting, periodic prolonged fasts, and ongoing tweaks (guided by DEXA scans and labs) to lose weight, preserve muscle, and reset cravings. Over time, his example, without forcing anyone, shifted his family’s and coworkers’ habits, improved his leadership and energy at work, and helped his kids become more interested in exercise and nutrition.The episode ends with a practical takeaway: shop the perimeter of the grocery store, reduce processed foods, find movement you actually enjoy with a community, and be “intentionally imperfect”, course-correct when you slip, rather than giving up.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John sits down with therapist Justin Olsen, a licensed clinical mental health counselor, to talk about stress, resilience, and mental health. Justin explains that stress is unavoidable, and actually necessary in healthy amounts. Too little stress can lead to lack of purpose and depression, while too much overwhelms us. The key difference between “good stress” (eustress) and “bad stress” (distress) is how we frame it in our minds. Using ideas from cognitive behavioral therapy, Justin describes how situations trigger thoughts, which create emotions, which drive our actions, and how we can reclaim power by examining and reshaping those thoughts. They also discuss grief and loss, acknowledging that some pain should hurt, and that time, meaning-making, and reframing help us move from being consumed by the “black hole” of loss to living alongside it.Human connection comes up as a major buffer against stress. Justin and Dr. John talk about the power of small, consistent acts of kindness, texting a loved one, thanking someone, opening a door, as well as intentionally reaching out instead of waiting to be noticed. They highlight research showing that believing your body can handle stress and staying connected to others is more protective than trying to avoid stress altogether. From a resilience standpoint, Justin uses the metaphor of a reservoir: life’s hardships constantly drain water, so we must actively refill it. He focuses on five core practices, adequate sleep, reasonably healthy eating, regular exercise, supportive relationships, and doing things that genuinely make you happy.To build resilience, they emphasize simple, repeatable habits rather than dramatic life overhauls, date nights, boundaries at work, hobbies like pickleball or guitar, and movement that boosts brain chemistry and neuroplasticity. They suggest that therapy is especially helpful when stress, grief, or habits are clearly interfering with daily life, work, relationships, motivation, or health. Justin closes with a powerful question from resilience research: “Is what I’m doing right now helping me or hurting me?” If it’s helping, lean in; if it’s hurting, gently choose something kinder for yourself.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode, Dr. John Senager speaks with physical therapist John Hermans, clinical director at Rise Up Rehab in Provo. Hermans begins by sharing his international journey into physical therapy, beginning with pre-med studies, training across Europe, and eventually specializing in biomechanics and manual therapy. The two discuss their shared appreciation for language, movement, and patient-centered care.They shift next to the state of healthcare and physical therapy, emphasizing how insurance limitations and bureaucratic requirements often obstruct high-quality, preventative care. Both highlight the value of collaboration between physicians and PTs and the importance of proactive wellness programs that strengthen the body before injury occurs. Hermans describes his clinic’s conservative, evidence-based approach focusing on biomechanics, isometric strengthening, proprioceptive training, and one-on-one care, in contrast to high-volume clinics relying heavily on assistants.Finally, they explore the most common injuries Hermans sees in his clinic, including low back pain, workplace-related injuries, motor vehicle trauma, and the now-infamous “pickleball injuries.” They discuss practical ergonomic advice, dynamic warmups, and the need for balanced strength in aging adults, especially the core, hip flexors, and stabilizing muscle chains. Hermans notes that Rise Up Rehab emphasizes individualized attention and consistent care from licensed PTs, setting them apart in the community.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinics podcast, John sits down with Dennis Walker, a business administration graduate who made his way into insurance about a decade ago. The episode begins with Dennis outlining how the Affordable Care Act (ACA) changed the market.On the one hand, the passing of the ACA meant that preexisting conditions must now be covered (a big win for patients), but premiums have risen dramatically, often doubling for healthy groups and skyrocketing for unhealthy ones. In addition, the ACA profit caps (insurers can only keep about 20% of expenditures) unintentionally reward higher spending, since 20% of a larger total is more profit. Pharma is often handled outside those caps, allowing insurers and PBMs to inflate drug costs through opaque pricing and rebates, driving up claims and profits without transparency.Dennis identifies five kinds of brokers, from captive agents and “spreadsheet-only” brokers to true innovators. The “innovator” broker uses data, underwriting, and creative plan design to push back on carriers and build smarter plans. He and John collaborate on the idea that the best plans center around direct primary care (DPC), reference-based pricing tied to Medicare, transparent pharmacy strategies, and smart self-funded or level-funded structures, especially for employers with 50+ employees. Their core message is that CEOs must “own” healthcare for their companies, choose brokers who truly advocate for them, and pair that with a strong DPC partner to make healthcare more affordable, transparent, and sustainable.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

​​In this episode, Dr. John sits down with marriage and family therapist Jarom Ball to explore the profound ways trauma shapes our emotional and physiological responses. Jarom discusses how early experiences of rejection and unworthiness can create deeply ingrained automatic reactions, impacting relationships and self-perception. He explains how traditional therapy methods, such as EMDR, can help regulate these responses but may not fully address all aspects of trauma. Psychedelics like ketamine and psilocybin, by promoting neuroplasticity through BDNF and mTOR activation, provide a unique window for transformation, especially when combined with intentional therapeutic integration.Jarom delves into different therapeutic approaches, highlighting Internal Family Systems, which engages the protective parts of the psyche, versus EMDR, which primarily bypasses them. He emphasizes that growth doesn’t always require confronting every traumatic memory at once; even incremental progress in emotional regulation and coping strategies can significantly enhance life quality. Jarom notes that unresolved trauma often manifests as autonomic dysregulation, where the body overreacts to triggers. Integrating therapy with psychedelic-assisted experiences, when accessible, can help rewire these patterns and create lasting change.The conversation also examines the impact of modern life and environmental factors on mental well-being. Dr. John and Jarom discuss how constant exposure to digital media and global stressors overwhelms our nervous systems, contrasting this with the benefits of reconnecting with nature, foraging, and direct contact with the earth. Such practices enhance intuition, emotional sensitivity, and overall well-being, offering a grounding balance to the high-tech, high-stress modern world. The episode ultimately emphasizes a holistic approach to healing, combining trauma-informed therapy, neuroplasticity through psychedelics, and reconnection with nature to cultivate resilience, growth, and human flourishing.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinics Podcast, Dr. John Sanders sits down with Neer Patel, a former engineer turned benefits innovator, whose wife, like Dr. Sanders, a Direct Primary Care physician. Together, they explore how their families have become advocates for a more transparent and values-driven healthcare system. Neer shares his journey from corporate America into healthcare entrepreneurship, explaining how his background in sales and marketing helped grow his wife’s DPC practice by educating both patients and business owners about the real costs of care and the power of the DPC model.As their conversation deepens, Neer explains how repeated talks with business owners exposed a common problem: unsustainable insurance premiums that prevented employers from offering DPC memberships to their teams. Determined to solve it, he dove into the health insurance world and discovered how hidden network contracts and inflated claims drive up costs. That realization led him to co-found a company that removes traditional network contracts, brings transparency to pricing, and integrates DPC at the core of employer health plans, all designed to eliminate waste and return advocacy to the heart of healthcare.Dr. Sanders and Neer discuss how Neer’s approach parallels the DPC movement itself, cutting out middlemen, focusing on real relationships, and giving patients and employers control over their healthcare dollars. By combining DPC’s personalized care with an actively managed, transparent coverage model, they demonstrate how businesses can provide better healthcare at lower costs while restoring trust, clarity, and compassion to the system.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John Sanders explores the evolving world of genetic screening — from traditional genome sequencing for inherited risks like BRCA, Lynch syndrome, and clotting disorders, to newer technologies like liquid biopsies and pharmacogenomics. He explains how genetics can guide prevention, but also how complex the interpretation is, especially when epigenetics — the environmental “on/off switches” for genes — plays a massive role in actual disease expression.He highlights both the promise and limitations of current tools. Liquid biopsies, for example, can screen for dozens of cancers via blood, but are expensive, not insurance-covered, and may detect cancers too late to change outcomes meaningfully. Pharmacogenomics — using genetic testing to guide medication choices — is fascinating in theory, but in real life doesn’t always align with clinical response, and rarely justifies its current out-of-pocket cost. Much of this technology is still ahead of its evidence.Dr. Sanders urges a thoughtful, ethical approach: screening can be empowering — but can also create unnecessary fear and possibly even trigger disease expression via stress. He stresses staying grounded in data, preserving patient peace of mind, and remembering the most powerful epigenetic “medicine” is still lifestyle — sleep, exercise, low stress. It’s innovation with responsibility, not blind adoption.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this in-depth discussion, Dr. John and neuroscientist Dr. Kyle Bills explore the concept of neuroplasticity—the brain’s remarkable ability to rewire and change through intention, experience, and biological modulation. They connect spiritual and scientific perspectives, noting that practices like repentance, reframing thoughts, and setting clear intentions align with measurable neurological mechanisms such as BDNF spikes, dopamine release, and mTOR activation. The conversation emphasizes that our mindset and the stories we tell ourselves (“I am” statements) can either limit or liberate our potential to change.Dr. Bills expands on the science of neuroplasticity by describing how activities like exercise, cold plunges, and intentional therapy stimulate neurochemical changes that reshape brain circuitry. However, he cautions that neurochemical boosts alone—whether from exercise or ketamine therapy—are not inherently beneficial unless paired with positive context and deliberate action. The two discuss the role of intention-setting in clinical treatments, sharing moving examples of how combining ketamine-assisted therapy with purposeful goals, like becoming a more patient parent, can lead to real behavioral transformation.The conversation culminates with Dr. Bills’ groundbreaking research into mechanical neurostimulation. He explains how specific vibrational frequencies applied to the spine can modulate dopamine circuits, producing measurable reductions in anxiety and improved cognitive function—without drugs or surgery. His NIH-funded trials using a noninvasive “vibration chair” show promise for treating conditions like opioid withdrawal, anxiety, and potentially even sleep disorders and Parkinson’s disease. Both doctors close with gratitude for science’s role in helping humanity refine itself, bridge mind and body, and grow closer to divine potential through understanding and intentional change.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this podcast episode, Dr. John from Voyage Clinics, a Utah county direct primary care, provides an overview of the growing direct primary care (DPC) movement and its potential to reshape healthcare in the U.S. John begins by highlighting the challenges American families and businesses face navigating a complex, expensive, and often inefficient healthcare system. After defining direct primary care, he explains how its structure allows patients to receive guidance, advocacy, and personalized care without being beholden to traditional insurance constraints. He emphasizes the practical benefits of this model, sharing real-world examples of cost-effective, high-quality care. Case studies shared in the episode underscore how even families with insurance benefit from DPC because membership often costs less than a single family member’s deductible while offering unlimited access to care. Dr. John positions DPC as a growing national movement with over 2,000 physicians now practicing this model, up from just a few hundred when he started seven and a half years ago. The podcast closes with a call for families and businesses to explore DPC as an alternative that delivers accessible, high-quality healthcare while reducing costs and simplifying navigation in an otherwise complex system.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode, Dr. John sits down with Darrell Moon, a nationally recognized advocate for direct primary care (DPC), to explore the transformative potential of relationship-driven healthcare. Darrell shares his professional journey, from starting as a student helping run a small hospital in Utah to leading multiple hospitals and eventually focusing on healthcare reform. He emphasizes the importance of aligning healthcare delivery with the true customer—business leaders and patients—rather than the traditional system’s incentives, which often reward keeping hospitals full rather than improving patient outcomes. The conversation considers the innovative NUCA healthcare system in Alaska, which prioritizes trust, long-term relationships, and a holistic approach to patient care, focusing on individuals’ life goals rather than just treating disease. The NUCA healthcare system divides patients into manageable groups and embeds a dedicated care team within each group in its efforts to foster deep relationships and deliver better outcomes at lower cost. Dr. John parallels this model to his own direct primary care clinics, emphasizing trust-building, long-term relationships, and a patient-centered approach that improves both outcomes and satisfaction.Finally, the podcast addresses the broader implications of DPC for employers and employees. By placing direct primary care at the center of self-funded insurance plans, companies can reduce costs, improve employee health, and foster loyalty. The conversation underscores how transparency, high-quality referrals, and data-driven decision-making can reshape healthcare delivery, offering accessible, affordable, and trustworthy care while enhancing overall workforce wellbeing.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode, Dr. Sanders visits again with Dr. Bartholomew, covering several timely pediatric health topics, including measles, RSV, COVID-19, and Tylenol. After highlighting the importance of vaccination for measles and identifying populations that are most vulnerable to RSV, the discussion pivots to COVID-19, where the doctors review evolving data and policy decisions around vaccines. Their conversation stresses the importance of balancing risks and benefits across different age groups, rather than applying a one-size-fits-all approach, arguing that current recommendations should be revisited in light of herd immunity, viral mutations, and reduced severity of illness. They encourage families to have open conversations with their providers about personal risk factors like obesity, diabetes, or heart disease when deciding whether vaccination is appropriate.Finally, the episode addresses the recent study linking Tylenol (acetaminophen) in pregnancy to autism. The doctors carefully explain the difference between association and causation, noting that current evidence does not support a causal link. They warn against sensationalized headlines that unnecessarily increase guilt among mothers, and point out that genetic factors are a much stronger contributor to autism. They also highlight ongoing genetic research at the University of Utah and supportive therapies, including innovative approaches like equine therapy. The episode closes with a reminder that science is dynamic, always open to new data, and that families should lean on trusted providers for evidence-based guidance.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Join Dr. Sanders with Zak Hazlett, a licensed marriage and family therapist and experienced river guide in their discussion of health and healing through nature. John and Zak begin the conversation discussing metaphorical “baggage” and the importance of unpacking it alongside others. The speakers stress that real growth and friendship come through vulnerability—sharing our struggles rather than hiding them behind a polished façade. The key message is that we can’t unpack someone else’s baggage for them, but we can unpack together, side by side.The discussion then shifts into the role of self-awareness, accountability, and the small steps required for growth. Instead of waiting for a big breakthrough, showing up consistently for yourself—much like you would for a close friend—leads to progress. Parenting examples highlight the power of teaching children to own mistakes without shame, reinforcing the idea that accountability fosters resilience and healing. This ties into how relationships and safe environments provide the container we need to reprogram unhealthy patterns from the past.Finally, the dialogue explores nature as both a reset and antidote to modern overstimulation. Phones and technology create addictive dopamine spikes, whereas spending time outdoors restores balance, helps reset circadian rhythms, and reduces stress. Practical “dopamine detox” tips are shared, such as grayscaling phones, moving apps, and setting intentional barriers. The speakers emphasize that meaningful social connection—hugs, time with friends, shared vulnerability—produces lasting neurochemical benefits like oxytocin. Taken together, the message is clear: unpack your baggage with others, be intentional about your environment, and lean into nature and authentic connection for lasting wellness.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

A Practical Guide to HRT for Women and MenDr. John is joined by nurse practitioner Marilyn to unpack the complexities of hormone use in both women and men, starting with the history of hormone therapy, the legacy of the Women’s Health Initiative, and the persistence of outdated black box warnings. They stress the importance of shared decision-making, noting that while risks like clotting, liver issues, and breast cancer must be considered, the potential benefits for mood, sleep, bone density, and quality of life can be significant when therapy is managed thoughtfully.In the discussion of female hormone therapy, they review perimenopause, menopause, and post-menopause, explaining when estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone may be appropriate. Marilyn shares practical guidance on lab testing, timing in the menstrual cycle, and tailoring treatment to symptoms. They also highlight the problem of inappropriate hormone use in younger women and caution against hormone “mills” that prescribe pellets or high doses without proper monitoring. Compounded formulations, oral progesterone, and topical or vaginal applications are all discussed as flexible tools when individualized to the patient’s needs.The conversation then shifts to male hormone therapy. Dr. John highlights the American Urological Association’s clear guidance on hypogonadism, stressing the need for accurate diagnosis and lifestyle interventions before prescribing testosterone. They discuss causes of low testosterone, including obesity, poor sleep, stress, and environmental exposures like plastics and pesticides. Alternatives such as Clomiphene and HCG can support fertility while boosting testosterone in younger men. Both hosts agree that while inappropriate use is common, properly monitored therapy can improve energy, mood, libido, and overall well-being. The episode closes with a reminder that HRT is not about making people 20 again—it’s about improving quality of life and aging with vitality.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the a​​dvice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

This podcast explores the complex and evolving world of compounding pharmacies, with a focus on how they provide customized solutions that go beyond what is commercially available. The conversation begins with the growing interest in peptides like BPC-157 and the lack of clear FDA guidance on their regulation. Practitioners and patients are left navigating uncertain territory where products may be inconsistently sourced or labeled as “not for human use,” raising important safety and trust concerns. The discussion highlights how regulatory oversight, while designed to protect the public, often creates barriers for innovation and patient access to potentially beneficial therapies.From there, the conversation shifts into the practical and creative role compounding pharmacies play in patient care. Unlike traditional prescriptions, compounding allows for individualized formulations—whether that’s tailoring dermatology creams to reduce side effects, creating specialized GI or ENT preparations, or offering unique dosing options for children, pets, or patients with rare conditions. The art of compounding comes through in solving problems such as ensuring accurate dosing, removing air pockets from creams, or flavoring medications to improve compliance. Collaboration between pharmacists, clinicians, and patients is emphasized as the key to designing effective, “made-to-fit” therapies.The episode also delves into bioidentical hormone replacement and GLP-1 therapies, both of which demonstrate the flexibility and value of compounding. Bioidentical hormones, though historically controversial, are shown to be chemically identical to natural hormones, offering tailored options that can improve quality of life for both men and women when used responsibly. Similarly, compounded GLP-1 medications provide more dosing flexibility, lower cost, and opportunities to address side effects with supportive add-ins like B12 or glycine. The conversation closes with a call to action for providers to learn more about compounding, embrace its potential, and collaborate with trusted pharmacists to expand patient options and improve outcomes.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the a​​dvice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

This podcast episode features Dr. John Sanders in conversation with Dr. Jeremy Gardner, a neurodevelopmental optometrist at Achieve Family Vision. Dr. Gardner explains that vision is far more than just achieving 20/20 eyesight—it's a crucial driver of attention, learning, and development from infancy through adulthood. He highlights how vision therapy, or what he calls “brain therapy through the eyes,” helps children and adults overcome challenges linked to conditions such as ADHD, dyslexia, autism, and even post-concussion recovery. He emphasizes the role of movement, outdoor play, and three-dimensional visual experiences in building strong visual and attentional skills.The discussion moves into how current medical and educational systems tend to overlook these deeper aspects of vision. Pediatricians and schools typically screen only for clarity of sight, missing vision processing, tracking, and coordination issues that can mimic ADHD or dyslexia. Dr. Gardner explains that many children who struggle with reading, attention, or headaches are actually experiencing vision-related challenges, which can be identified through specialized testing. He also points out that vision difficulties can contribute to behavioral frustration, avoidance of reading, and overreliance on screens, as these require less visual effort than traditional learning.Dr. Gardner shares that his practice uses comprehensive evaluations to uncover underlying causes of learning difficulties, pulling together insights from vision specialists, auditory experts, occupational therapists, speech pathologists, and mental health professionals. Their collaborative goal is to eliminate preventable learning barriers for Utah students by 2035. Importantly, he stresses that dyslexia and attention difficulties are not permanent roadblocks but challenges that can often be retrained and improved with proper intervention. The episode closes with a call for greater awareness among parents, teachers, and medical providers—highlighting that early recognition and a holistic, team-based approach can dramatically improve children’s confidence, learning, and lifelong potential.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the a​​dvice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. Sanders brings on Shaunna and good friend, Chrizelle Ransom, to discuss the challenges of navigating medical information in the age of social media and algorithms. The discussion covers how attention-driven platforms reward controversy and “rage bait,” leading to viral misinformation that hooks people emotionally rather than logically. Dr. John and guests share personal experiences, such as how simple searches about household problems led to algorithmic spirals, and caution that seemingly harmless engagement can quickly expose users to harmful or misleading medical content.The conversation also unpacks the psychological forces that make misinformation persuasive, including rhetoric, emotional appeals, and the phenomenon of “anti-expert bias,” where trained professionals are dismissed while influencers with little expertise gain trust simply by being relatable. Shaunna and Chrizelle note how historic failures within medicine and the healthcare system’s time constraints have eroded public trust, making people more vulnerable to misinformation and bias. But John counters that building trust through humility, time, and genuine listening emerges as a critical counterbalance.Finally, the podcast emphasizes both patient and provider humility. Patients must recognize their own biases and stay open to trustworthy guidance, while providers should communicate transparently and admit uncertainty where it exists. The episode closes by highlighting practical tools, such as examine.com for supplement evidence and Open Evidence AI for accessing peer-reviewed medical data, which can help both providers and patients sift through the noise of online health information to make better, evidence-based decisions.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the a​​dvice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

This podcast episode explores the financial and practical considerations of bariatric (weight loss) surgery, emphasizing the need for transparent pricing in the U.S. healthcare system. Dr. Rasmussen discusses the disparity between what surgeons earn and what surgical facilities charge, pointing out that many components—such as disposable equipment and facility overhead—contribute to the high costs. The conversation also touches on medical tourism, particularly the risks involved when patients seek cheaper surgery abroad, where critical postoperative support and education may be lacking.Dr. Rasmussen highlights the importance of comprehensive care in surgical weight loss programs. His clinic, Utah Surgical Associates, offers pre- and post-operative support, including consultations with dietitians, psychologists, and social workers, as well as lab monitoring and educational resources. He stresses that surgical weight loss is a tool, not a cure, requiring lasting lifestyle changes and long-term follow-up for success. Medication can also supplement surgery in certain cases to enhance outcomes.The discussion concludes with insights into specialized procedures. Dr. Rasmussen also covers nutritional needs following surgery, including the use of bariatric-specific multivitamins and alternative supplementation options like patches. The episode wraps with a broader reflection on cultural habits and the need for grassroots health movements to combat the epidemic of processed food consumption and restore healthier living practices.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the a​​dvice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinics podcast, Dr. John Sanders, a family physician, offers practical first aid guidance tailored for families. He discusses real-life experiences and provides actionable tips on managing common emergencies such as choking, fever, febrile seizures, and allergic reactions. Dr. Sanders underscores the importance of prevention, like cutting food into small pieces for children to avoid choking and recognizing early signs of serious issues such as persistent high fevers or febrile seizures in young kids.The podcast covers an array of topics including nosebleeds, cuts, burns, and environmental injuries. Dr. Sanders explains how to manage bleeding effectively with proper pressure placement, the importance of cleaning wounds thoroughly using tap water, and ways to handle both minor and more complex lacerations using Steri-Strips or professional care. He advises against outdated methods like hydrogen peroxide, advocating for gentler, more effective treatments. For burns, he recommends quick cooling and outlines the degrees of burns and when professional care is necessary.Finally, Dr. Sanders delves into respiratory issues like croup and asthma, insect bites, and tick-borne illnesses. He highlights how to recognize breathing distress in children, how to react to different severities of allergic reactions, and how to safely remove ticks. The episode is a valuable resource for parents, offering both reassurance and empowerment by teaching when home care is appropriate and when to seek medical help. His approach balances medical expertise with accessible, family-oriented advice.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the a​​dvice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this podcast episode from Voyage Clinics, Dr. John welcomes breathwork specialist Josh Perry for a deep conversation about emotional health, masculinity, and healing. Josh shares his background in psychology and web development and how his personal healing journey led him to breathwork and somatic practices. Both Dr. John and Josh reflect on how societal norms, particularly those taught to boys and men, discourage emotional expression and vulnerability, creating disconnection from one’s own emotions and from others.Their conversation explores the emotional conditioning men experience, such as suppressing tears or defaulting to sarcasm as a defense mechanism. Dr. John shares personal stories of growth in self-awareness and emotional regulation, particularly in his relationships and parenting. Josh explains how breathwork helped him bypass the thinking mind to connect with buried emotions like shame and grief, which were previously masked by years of internalized beliefs and coping behaviors. They highlight the value of creating safe, supportive spaces for men to reconnect with themselves and others emotionally.The discussion also touches on the healing power of music, the role of the voice in emotional release, and the need for culturally relevant tools to support men’s mental health. Josh shares stories of guiding breathwork sessions for youth and adults alike and emphasizes the importance of slow, compassionate entry into emotional work—especially for those who’ve never been invited to feel deeply. The episode closes with encouragement for men to know they are not broken, but rather conditioned—and that with the right tools and community, they can heal, connect, and live more wholehearted lives.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the a​​dvice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinic podcast, Dr. John Sanders sits down with Amy Walker—business coach, entrepreneur, and founder of Exit School—to discuss how entrepreneurship can be a powerful vehicle for personal growth, wellness, and community impact. Amy shares her story of building businesses while raising five children, the turning point that led her to focus on creating companies that could thrive without her, and her mission to help others build transferable, scalable businesses. She explains how owning a business forces deep self-awareness, emotional maturity, and spiritual alignment, often accelerating personal development far beyond what a traditional career offers.The conversation also explores practical strategies for building business value and planning for eventual exit, including why buying an existing business may be smarter than starting from scratch. Amy debunks common misconceptions about business acquisition and highlights how financial independence can unlock greater purpose—whether that’s more time with family or solving local problems like homelessness. She and Dr. Sanders ultimately emphasize that entrepreneurship, when done with clear intention and values, can lead to a healthier, more fulfilled life and a stronger community.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Voyage Clinics Podcast host Dr. John Sanders welcomes longtime friend and “pickleball bro” Jason Peery for a conversation about personal growth, coaching, and mental wellness. Jason introduces himself as a husband, father of six, grandfather of two, and someone with a strong passion for coaching, teaching, and supporting youth and families—especially in the mental health space. He shares that while he’s done a lot of business to pay the bills, his heart lies in helping young people grow through sports and mentoring.The conversation touches on the value of human connection, vulnerability, and intentional living. Jason reflects on the cultural and generational barriers that often keep men from expressing their emotions and seeking support, and he emphasizes the power of simply being present and listening. He and Dr. Sanders explore how service, authenticity, and spiritual grounding contribute to a fulfilling life, especially for those navigating change or emotional difficulty. Jason also discusses his own efforts to keep growing and stay curious, even while supporting others.Throughout the episode, both men underscore the importance of slowing down and making time for self-reflection, faith, and purpose. Jason encourages listeners to notice when they’re “operating from fear” and instead choose to lead with love and truth. Dr. Sanders ties these insights back to his clinical work, affirming how critical it is for people—especially men—to find spaces where they can speak openly and feel seen. The conversation closes with gratitude and a shared hope that listeners will be inspired to pause, connect, and live more fully.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinics Podcast, host Dr. John Sanders interviews therapist Chantel Stratton Lund about her path into the mental health field and the importance of addressing men’s mental health. Chantel shares how her career trajectory shifted from an early interest in finance to therapy after realizing her deeper desire to help people on a personal level. Influenced by early exposure to mental health struggles and personal experiences, she pursued a Master’s in Social Work and began focusing on family dynamics and mental well-being. Her clinical work, particularly with ketamine-assisted therapy, has shown powerful results for patients with PTSD, depression, and suicidal ideation.The conversation delves into the unique challenges men face in today’s social landscape, including emotional suppression, addiction to screens and video games, and lack of strong emotional support systems. Both Dr. Sanders and Chantel discuss how traditional masculinity and societal expectations discourage vulnerability, leading many men to feel isolated and emotionally stunted. They touch on the loneliness epidemic affecting men, with data showing a stark decline in male friendships over recent decades. Chantel explains how therapy can provide a safe space to explore emotional intelligence, challenge internalized shame, and learn to express vulnerability constructively.The discussion also covers the benefits of ketamine therapy, particularly its impact on neuroplasticity, enabling patients to break entrenched mental patterns and form healthier ones. Dr. Sanders emphasizes the need for intention-setting and post-session therapeutic support to maximize ketamine’s transformative effects. The episode concludes with reflections on the power of genuine connection, the art of male friendship, and practical ways to cultivate vulnerability and emotional growth through small group interactions, service, and consistent outreach. Both speakers express a deep passion for supporting men’s mental health and highlight the importance of social connection, both inside and outside the therapy room.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode, Dr. Sanders is joined by Holly Hawkins for a reflective and personal conversation about the role of presence in healthcare. Dr. Sanders shares his thoughts on what it means to truly be present with patients—how slowing down, listening carefully, and being emotionally available can lead to deeper healing. He explains how the DPC model allows this kind of relationship-centered care by removing time-based billing and insurance barriers that typically interfere with connection.Holly shares her own journey of rediscovering purpose through her roles in the clinic. With prior experience in clinical environments and a deep appreciation for people, she describes how working at the DPC practice has restored her sense of meaning. Holly talks about how greeting patients by name, forming real connections, and being part of a team that values intentional presence has transformed how she views both healthcare and her own life.Together, John and Holly explore how the practice of presence doesn’t just apply to medical professionals—it’s a universal discipline that affects how we show up for one another. Their conversation is a gentle but powerful reminder that healing begins with being seen and heard, and that every person in a clinic—whether physician or receptionist—can be a vital part of that healing process.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John interviews Paige Moore, a third-year medical student, who shares her inspiring journey through medical education and how she became passionate about direct primary care (DPC). Initially drawn to medicine because of her interest in whole-person care and community health, Paige discovered DPC during her first year of medical school and was struck by its alignment with her values. She reflects on the shortcomings of the traditional insurance-based healthcare model, especially the rushed appointments and administrative overload that distance providers from their patients. Paige shares how shadowing in a DPC clinic helped her see what medicine could look like when it’s centered on relationships and true healing.Paige also talks about the challenges and hopes of navigating medical school with a mindset that diverges from many of her peers. While many students are focused on specialties and financial incentives, Paige is committed to primary care and is vocal about her desire to build a practice that prioritizes people over productivity. She describes the tension between what she's learning in the classroom and what she sees modeled in innovative practices like DPC, and how important it is to find mentors and communities that support her vision.Finally, Paige offers advice to other students who feel called to a more meaningful kind of medicine. She encourages them to ask hard questions, seek out nontraditional experiences, and trust that they can carve their own path even within a rigid system. Her story is one of conviction, clarity, and quiet rebellion — a reminder that the future of medicine is shaped by those willing to imagine and pursue something better.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this heartfelt episode of the Voyage Clinics Podcast, Dr. John interviews Dani Enkey, a doula and mother of five, about her personal journey and professional work in the birth and postpartum space. Dani shares how her own transformation—from feeling lost in motherhood to reclaiming her identity—led her to support other women navigating similar paths. She describes the internalized belief systems that kept her from prioritizing her own needs and how mentorship and intentional self-discovery helped her regain her voice and confidence.The conversation dives deep into the sacred nature of birth, highlighting the unique emotional, physical, and spiritual experiences women undergo during labor and postpartum. Dani explains the important role a doula can play in that journey—providing consistent support, comfort measures, and emotional anchoring that helps birthing women stay centered. She and Dr. John discuss the doula’s role in bridging communication gaps with medical staff, helping families feel empowered, and easing the unpredictable transitions of labor. Dani likens doulas to a nurturing presence that fills the "cracks" left in sterile clinical environments with warmth, care, and feminine energy.The episode ends with a look at postpartum support and community building. Dani introduces her initiative, Wise Women Collective, which aims to provide wraparound care for women throughout fertility, pregnancy, and postpartum through coaching, education, and group support. She emphasizes the importance of connection and care in reducing maternal isolation and mental health struggles, advocating for a model of care that is proactive, gentle, and deeply human. Dr. John praises her vision and work, noting its alignment with the values of his practice.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John meets with Aimee Hadfield, a board-certified practitioner of group therapy, sociometry, and psychodrama, as she shares her journey into mental health work. Although she initially didn’t believe in therapy, the loss of her brother and her drive to help others led her to co-found Hearten House, an experiential therapy center. Aimee recounts a pivotal moment during a psychodrama training that transformed her perspective, emphasizing the embodied, individualized nature of psychodrama and its unique ability to access deeper emotional healing beyond traditional talk therapy.The episode explores how psychodrama—an action-based, person-centered therapeutic approach—uses embodiment, role reversal, and group dynamics to help individuals access inner wisdom and reshape their internal narratives. Aimee and Dr. John discuss how psychodrama supports healing through spontaneity, movement, and emotional engagement, often unlocking insights unavailable through conventional modalities. Aimee explains tools like spectrograms, sociometry, and role-playing with symbolic figures to access strength-based roles, reframe trauma, and foster transformation.They also delve into psychodrama's applications for addiction recovery, grief, family roles, and self-perception, emphasizing its research-backed effectiveness in reducing anxiety, PTSD, and depression. Aimee speaks to the power of group therapy and how psychodrama allows clients to physically rehearse new behaviors, leading to neurologically reinforced change. The episode ends with a reflection on spontaneity as a remedy for the impulsivity epidemic fueled by digital overstimulation, and Aimee’s encouragement to seek therapists with rigorous psychodrama training.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John Sanders welcomes back Dr. Diane Spangler in this second episode with the psychologist and researcher. The conversation explores the biological, psychological, and behavioral foundations of anxiety, framing it as a preparatory system distinct from fear and anger. Dr. Spangler explains how anxiety, when moderate, enhances performance, but when excessive, becomes paralyzing. The discussion highlights the upside-down U-shaped curve of anxiety’s relationship to performance, and explores physiological distinctions between adrenal stress responses in fear versus anxiety.Dr. Spangler introduces the concept of “worry time” — a structured approach that helps individuals differentiate between constructive and non-constructive worry. She explains how this practice allows people to recognize and validate worry without being consumed by it, providing a clear strategy to identify actionable steps or let go of repetitive rumination. Through vivid examples like earthquake preparedness during the early days of COVID-19, Dr. Spangler shows how this method can help shift a person’s relationship with anxiety by training the mind to pause, process, and plan instead of spinning in cycles of dread.The conversation also delves into deeper emotional intelligence and identity issues related to chronic anxiety, such as over-responsibility, generational worry patterns, and empathy burnout. Dr. Sanders shares personal and parenting insights, exploring how core beliefs about responsibility and care often shape anxious thinking. Together, they underscore the importance of recognizing anxiety’s helpful roots while learning to set boundaries, recalibrate beliefs, and reframe experiences. Dr. Spangler concludes with an encouraging message: anxiety serves a purpose, but it shouldn’t control your life — and with the right tools, it doesn’t have to.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this inspiring episode, Dr. John welcomes Amanda and Kolton Rackham, a couple who embarked on a life-changing journey of self-discovery by walking across the United States. The couple met during a personal development seminar, where they connected through their shared interest in growth and emotional awareness. Both came from complex family backgrounds and had already experienced personal trials, including job loss and disrupted plans. These challenges led them to question societal expectations and ultimately commit to a cross-country walk driven by intuition and trust in a higher power.Their 15-month journey was marked by letting go—of material possessions, control, and traditional life paths. Along the way, they relied on faith and vision rather than rigid planning, finding that support and resources often appeared at exactly the right time. One of the most extraordinary moments was the birth of their baby at the home of a retired midwife, perfectly aligning with their hope for a natural delivery. Their story illustrates the power of surrender, presence, and choosing love and connection over fear and convention.Dr. John reflects on how their story resonates with the challenges faced by many in the medical field who feel trapped in dogmatic systems. The conversation bridges the emotional and spiritual aspects of health, the importance of neuroplasticity, and the value of shedding limiting beliefs. Amanda and Kolton’s journey becomes a metaphor for finding one's path by letting go of outdated rules and trusting deeply in the process. Their insights serve as both a personal testimony and a universal reminder that growth begins when we choose vision over fear and authenticity over obligation. Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this heartfelt episode of the Voyage Clinics podcast, Dr. John Sanders interviews Lisa Hall, a compassionate and experienced nurse practitioner, as she shares her life and professional journey. Raised in a small Utah town as the oldest of eight children, Lisa grew up caring for others—a trait that naturally led her into nursing. She trained alongside her mother at BYU, eventually working with her in clinical practice, and is now inspiring her own daughter to pursue nursing. Lisa’s early career included labor and delivery and NICU nursing later transitioning into integrative neurology and addiction care. Her work with patients struggling with neurological conditions and opioid addiction, including her own brother, emphasized the importance of whole-person healing. She expressed concern over the constraints of traditional insurance-based medicine—short visits, restricted lab work, and limited follow-up—leading her to seek a more meaningful way to care for patients. That search ultimately brought her to Voyage Clinics, a direct primary care model that offers transparency, flexibility, and the time needed to truly connect and heal.Lisa also opens up about her personal health struggles which have given her deeper empathy and insight into her patients’ experiences. She praises the innovative, patient-first environment at Voyage Clinics, highlighting its affordability, collaborative team, and wealth of resources, such as evidence-based health coaching and advanced AI tools for research. Lisa's authenticity, lived experience, and passion for whole-person care make her a perfect addition to the Voyage Clinics team and a deeply valued resource for her patients.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John welcomes Marilyn Sorensen, a seasoned family nurse practitioner with over 43 years of experience. Marilyn shares her journey into medicine, initially debating between music and nursing before ultimately choosing healthcare as a practical and fulfilling career. She reflects on her upbringing in a military family, living in Germany during high school, and how her father's role as the "Berlin Candy Bomber" influenced her values of compassion and service. Marilyn's decision to pursue nursing was shaped by her experiences with patients and personal life events, including the loss of a family member to kidney cancer, which motivated her to advance her education and become a nurse practitioner.The conversation highlights Marilyn's passion for patient-centered care, particularly in women's health, bioidentical hormone therapy, osteoporosis management, and general family medicine. She and Dr. John discuss the importance of spending adequate time with patients, creating meaningful connections, and avoiding the rushed, impersonal nature of corporate healthcare. They emphasize the role of music in healing, drawing parallels between Marilyn’s love for music and the artistry involved in patient care. Dr. John also shares his own experiences integrating music into his practice, including his reputation as the “singing doctor” in Moab.As Marilyn joins the Voyage Clinics team, she expresses enthusiasm for the clinic’s mission to provide personalized, accessible, and transparent healthcare. She and Dr. John reflect on the broken aspects of the healthcare system, the challenges of maintaining integrity in a fast-paced industry, and the importance of making patients feel heard. The episode concludes with a heartfelt discussion about Marilyn’s late father’s legacy and the lasting impact of kindness in both medicine and life.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this episode of the Voyage Clinic's Podcast, host Dr. John Sanders welcomes guest Melissa Holmes, a dedicated mother of three and the director of Roomb Humanitarian, an international service organization. Melissa shares her journey of balancing motherhood with meaningful work, reflecting on the personal struggles of rediscovering oneself after years devoted to raising children. She emphasizes the importance of self-care and finding fulfilling pursuits beyond parenting. Dr. Sanders highlights the common challenges many mothers face in their personal growth and the necessity of creating support systems to navigate these transitions.The conversation then shifts to the healthcare concerns that many mothers encounter, particularly when caring for young children. Dr. Sanders and Melissa discuss common medical issues, including rashes, ear infections, and fevers, and when parents should seek medical attention. Melissa shares her personal experiences with Voyage Clinics, describing how the direct relationship with her doctor alleviates the stress and uncertainty of navigating the traditional healthcare system. Dr. Sanders explains the benefits of direct primary care, which offers immediate and personalized medical guidance, reducing unnecessary emergency visits and empowering parents with knowledge.The episode concludes with an insightful discussion on the challenges of the traditional healthcare system and the advantages of direct primary care. Melissa recounts how Voyage Clinics played a crucial role in her daughter’s medical journey, providing not only medical expertise but also emotional support. Dr. Sanders stresses the need for a shift in healthcare culture, advocating for a more personalized, patient-centered approach. The episode serves as both an informative and empowering discussion for parents, providing reassurance and practical guidance on managing their children's health while maintaining their own well-being.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John welcomes pediatrician Dr. Jonathen Bartholomew to The Voyage Clinics Podcast, where they discuss his journey into medicine, his passion for pediatrics, and practical advice for parents. Dr. Bartholomew shares how his early exposure to emergency medical care, combined with his family's influence, led him toward the medical field. He recounts his residency in pediatrics, the challenges of balancing rigorous training with family life, and his eventual return to Utah to practice medicine in a community setting.The conversation shifts to pediatric care, with Dr. Bartholomew providing insights on newborn wellness, the importance of early developmental screenings, and strategies for ensuring a healthy start in life. He highlights key red flags in infancy, such as lack of eye contact and weak muscle tone, and stresses the importance of early intervention for conditions like autism and developmental delays. He also discusses the significance of sleep, proper nutrition, and exercise for both children and parents, emphasizing practical parenting strategies to help parents create a supportive environment for their children.The discussion concludes with a deep dive into the impact of screen time and modern technology on child development. Dr. Bartholomew and Dr. John discuss the dangers of excessive screen exposure, particularly during early childhood and adolescence, and advocate for physical activity and real-world engagement to counterbalance the negative effects. They suggest setting limits on screen time while encouraging outdoor play and structured activities. The episode ends with gratitude and encouragement for listeners to prioritize wellness and mindful parenting.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

This episode features Hal and Dianna Black as they discuss the journey of aging gracefully and the importance of lifelong learning, humor, and community. Hosted by Dr. John and Shaunna, the conversation highlights the experiences that have shaped the Blacks’ lives, from Hal’s academic journey in zoology and fieldwork in Africa to Dianna’s passion for literature and teaching. Their shared love of learning and curiosity has kept their minds engaged and sharp, reinforcing the idea that intellectual stimulation plays a key role in aging well.Beyond academics, Hal and Dianna share their perspectives on maintaining strong relationships and navigating the challenges of aging. They emphasize the importance of humor, adaptability, and avoiding negativity. Dianna’s analogy of marriage as a musical composition—where harmony and dissonance are both essential—illustrates their philosophy of maintaining balance in relationships. They also touch on the power of memory and self-awareness, as demonstrated in their journaling habits, which serve as personal histories and reflections of their life experiences.A key takeaway from their discussion is the significance of community and staying actively involved with younger generations. From their abundant garden, where neighbors gather to harvest and can food, to their philosophy of living without fences, Hal and Dianna have built a lifestyle that fosters connection. Their commitment to lifelong learning, positive outlook, and deep appreciation for community relationships exemplify the principles of aging with grace and joy.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

In this podcast episode, Dr. John Sanders hosts his wife, Shaunna Sanders, as they explore her personal journey through education, family, and self-discovery. Drawing on her academic background in English, Shaunna introduces Joseph Campbell’s concept of the hero's journey, emphasizing its universal relevance. She discusses the archetypal stages of the journey—such as the call to adventure, encountering mentors, and overcoming obstacles—and relates these to her own life experiences, including motherhood, education, and her pursuit of personal growth. Her insights encourage listeners to view challenges as integral to their own hero’s journey.Shaunna highlights how her passion for teaching and lifelong learning has shaped her path, from homeschooling her children to pursuing her JD and MBA. She reflects on the duality of ambition and grace, emphasizing the importance of finding joy and fulfillment in both achievements and unexpected detours. Her approach to education and life reflects a belief in adapting to changing circumstances while staying true to one's core values, offering a relatable perspective for women balancing careers, family, and personal aspirations.The episode concludes with Shaunna sharing a heartfelt poem titled *Ordinary*, which beautifully encapsulates the theme of finding contentment in everyday life while recognizing the unique value in each individual. This poetic reflection inspires listeners to embrace both ambition and peace, striking a balance between the drive to achieve and the grace to accept imperfection. The discussion leaves an enduring message about the power of self-awareness, resilience, and embracing one’s unique journey.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Dr. John interviews Dr. Betty Delass, a physical therapist specializing in pelvic floor health, as she shares her journey into healthcare and her transition from orthopedic physical therapy to pelvic health. Initially unsure of her career path, Dr. Delass discovered her passion for physical therapy through her love for exercise and movement. After six years as an orthopedic therapist, her personal postpartum experiences inspired her to specialize in pelvic health, allowing her to address issues such as incontinence, diastasis recti, and pelvic pain.Dr. Delass emphasizes the importance of pelvic floor physical therapy in addressing a wide range of conditions for women, men, and even children. She explains the comprehensive evaluation process, which includes assessing movement patterns, core strength, and pelvic floor function, and how these factors contribute to conditions like incontinence, pelvic pain, and prolapse. By taking a holistic and individualized approach, her practice focuses on both internal and external factors to create effective treatment plans, debunk myths, and promote patient empowerment. She highlights that pelvic floor therapy is a critical but often underappreciated resource in healthcare and advocates for greater awareness of pelvic floor therapy among healthcare providers and patients, emphasizing its role in improving quality of life and promoting overall health.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.