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We Chat Divorce Podcast
by My Divorce Solution
Divorce is emotional — but it’s also financial. We Chat Divorce helps you understand both. Join hosts Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, co-founders of My Divorce Solution, for expert divorce insights, real stories, and proven financial strategies that turn fear into focus, focus into knowledge, and knowledge into power. Whether you’re just considering divorce, in the middle of it, or rebuilding after, you’ll learn how to protect your finances, make informed decisions, and move forward with clarity and confidence. The #1 podcast for financial divorce preparation, empowerment, and real talk about money, marriage, and moving on.
Episodes
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217. Trauma Bonds and Financial Control: Rebuilding Self-Trust with Dr. Nadine Macaluso
Why can leaving an abusive relationship feel so difficult—even when you know you have been hurt? Dr. Nadine Macaluso returns to We Chat Divorce to join Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison, and Catherine Shanahan, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, for a conversation about trauma bonds, coercive…
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216. 10 Costly Divorce Mistakes to Avoid | Divorce Clarity Guide
“I just want this to be over.” If you’ve felt that way during divorce, you’re not alone. But before you agree to a settlement, do you understand what it could mean for your everyday life—and your financial future? In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison, and Catherine...
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215. Blended Families and Divorce: Protecting Your Emotional and Financial Future
In a blended family, an argument about parenting or money can carry deeper questions: Do I belong here? Does my voice matter? Are we still on the same team? Licensed marriage and family therapist and blended family expert April Eldemire joins Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan to explore the...
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214. Divorce Settlement Calculator: Can You Actually Afford to Keep the House?
A settlement can look equal on paper and still leave you wondering how you’ll pay the bills. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan walk through a hypothetical couple’s proposed division of $2 million in assets. Each person receives $1 million—but one keeps the...
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213. Trauma Bonds, Financial Control & Divorce: Reclaiming Your Power
Why is it so hard to leave a relationship that hurts you—and how can you begin preparing when fear and financial uncertainty keep you stuck? Before Dr. Nadine Macaluso returns to We Chat Divorce for a new conversation, we’re revisiting our interview from last year about trauma bonds, financial...
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212. Dividing a Business in Divorce: What the Valuation Doesn’t Tell You
When a business is part of a divorce, determining what it is worth is only the beginning. The company may also be a marital asset, a source of household income and the employer paying expenses for the family. Each of these roles can affect the financial outcome for both spouses. In this episode…
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211. From Heartbreak to Independence: Starting Over After Divorce
What happens when the life you planned suddenly falls apart—and you have to decide what comes next? Three years after her first appearance on We Chat Divorce, bestselling author, filmmaker, and creator Gabrielle Stone returns to share how heartbreak, solo travel, and honest self-reflection...
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210. Financial Clarity Before Divorce: Rethinking Prenups, Postnups and Separation Agreements
Financial agreements are often viewed as a way for one person to protect their assets from the other. But a prenup, postnup or separation agreement can begin with a more constructive question: What are we trying to accomplish financially? In this episode of the We Chat Divorce Podcast’s Divorce...
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209. How to Rewire Your Brain and Rebuild Your Life After Toxic Love
The divorce may be final—or still unfolding—but your mind and body may remain stuck in survival mode. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan welcome back Jackie Miller, certified trauma-informed coach, author, speaker, and host of Out of Crazy Town: Your Guide to...
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208. Should You Keep the House in Divorce? Why Your Realtor Can't Answer That Alone
Should you keep the house in your divorce — or sell it? Your realtor can give you an answer. But excellent real estate advice can still be a costly divorce mistake. In this episode of Divorce Explored, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan use the marital home — one of the most common and…
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207. How to Trust Yourself in Divorce: Stop Overthinking and Make Clear Decisions with Amy Armstrong
Divorce can make even the most confident person question every decision. When fear, conflicting advice, and financial uncertainty take over, how do you determine what is truly right for you? Divorce can make even the most confident person question every decision. When fear, conflicting advice…
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206. Hidden Assets or Costly Rabbit Holes? How Much Financial Discovery Is Enough?
One missing financial document could change the outcome of a divorce—but spending thousands tracing an account that once held only a few hundred dollars may not. So how do you know when you have enough reliable information to mediate, negotiate, or sign a settlement agreement? In this Divorce...
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205. The 50/50 Divorce Myth: What Equitable Distribution Actually Means
Most people assume divorce means everything splits 50/50. In most of the country, that's not how the law works — and learning it mid-process can cost you dearly. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with Jessica Fagan, founder of Fagan Law Group, an...
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204. Should You Move Money Before Divorce? Why One-Off Financial Advice Backfires
Someone tells you to move money out of the joint account. Someone else says stop depositing your paycheck. Your attorney raises temporary orders. Each piece of advice may sound reasonable on its own — but divorce decisions rarely stand alone. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and...
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203. Why Clients Leave Good Attorneys: Communication, Financial Clarity & AI in Divorce with Jessica Marshall
In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with Chicago family law attorney Jessica Marshall for a candid conversation about what really protects you during divorce — and where people often put themselves at risk without realizing it. Jessica shares an...
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202. Inheritance and Divorce: What Gray Divorce Couples Don't Know Can Cost Them
Is inherited money really "yours" in a divorce? Not necessarily — and the details of how that money was handled can make or break your case. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan tackle one of the most misunderstood topics in later-in-life divorce: inheritance....
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201. Is This Gaslighting? How to Recognize, Document, and Protect Yourself in High-Conflict Divorce
Is what you’re experiencing actually gaslighting? In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with narcissistic abuse expert Tracy Malone — author of Divorcing Your Narcissist — to answer that question with real examples, practical tools, and language you can...
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200 Episodes Later: What Ten Years Taught Us About Money & Marriage
After 200 episodes and a decade of helping thousands of individuals navigate one of life’s most difficult transitions, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan step back from the typical divorce topic to explore the deeper patterns they have witnessed over the last 10 years. The biggest realization?...
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199. Uncontested vs. Contested Divorce: What Every Divorcing Person Needs to Know, with Renee Turner
When people think about divorce, they often assume they can just "choose" an uncontested process. But what most people don't realize is that uncontested divorce requires more than goodwill — it requires preparation, financial transparency, and a clear understanding of your legal rights. Without...
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198. Divorce Settlement Agreement: What It Covers and How to Protect Yourself
A divorce settlement agreement may be the most important document you'll sign during your divorce—and one of the least understood. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan unpack what a Divorce Settlement Agreement (also known as a Marital Settlement Agreement or...
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197. Thinking About Divorce? What to Know Before You Decide, with Guest Cindy Stibbard
If divorce is something you've been thinking about — even quietly, even just as a possibility — this episode is for you. Karen and Catherine sit down with Cindy Stibbard, certified relationship and divorce coach and creator of the Relationship Audit, to explore what it looks like to approach one…
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196. Divorce Mediation, Settlement Conferences, and Court Hearings: How to Walk In Prepared
Divorce mediation, settlement conferences, and court-mandated hearings are among the most searched — and most misunderstood — steps in the divorce process. People want to know what to bring, what happens in the room, and what it means if things don’t settle. But there’s a critical piece most…
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195. The Cost of Quiet: Reclaiming Your Voice, Financial Clarity & Emotional Safety in Divorce
What happens when silence becomes survival? In this deeply personal and powerful episode of My Divorce Solution’s We Chat Divorce, co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with licensed psychotherapist, relationship expert, and author Colette Jane Fehr for a conversation about...
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194. Divorce Explored: Alimony and Spousal Support Explained: How It's Really Calculated
Episode Summary Alimony is not a formula. It’s not a calculator output. It’s not what your friend got. In this episode, Karen and Catherine explain what actually goes into evaluating spousal support — and why financial clarity before negotiation is the difference between a settlement that holds…
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193. Divorce Documentation: Turn Chaos Into Court-Ready Proof
This episode of We Chat Divorce dives into a critical but often misunderstood reality of high-conflict divorce: truth alone is not enough—how you organize and present information is what ultimately matters. Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan are joined by family court strategist Courtney Gil...
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192. Divorce Explored: How to Prepare for Divorce Financially When Your Spouse Controls the Money
In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan unpack one of the most common—and costly—realities in divorce: financial blind spots within a marriage. Inspired in part by the broader conversation sparked by the popular book Strangers: a Memoir of Marriage , this…
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191. Divorcing a Narcissist: How to Protect Yourself, Your Finances, and Your Future
Divorcing a narcissistic or high-conflict partner is one of the most emotionally and strategically complex experiences you can face. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by high-conflict divorce coach, mediator, and author Victoria McCooey, who shares what it really looks like to...
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190. Divorce Explored: Before You Sign: What Divorce Financial Clarity Really Looks Like - Part 2
Episode Summary The most expensive divorce mistake is usually not legal — it's moving toward an agreement before the financial picture is complete, verified, and understood. In this episode, Karen and Catherine define what divorce financial clarity actually means and what needs to be in place...
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189. Divorce Explored: Before You Sign: What Divorce Financial Clarity Really Looks Like - Part 1
Episode Summary The most expensive divorce mistake is usually not legal — it's moving toward an agreement before the financial picture is complete, verified, and understood. In this episode, Karen and Catherine define what divorce financial clarity actually means and what needs to be in place...
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188. The Hidden Divorce: Why You Feel Stuck—and How Financial Clarity Sets You Free
There’s a quiet kind of divorce that doesn’t start with papers being filed. It starts years earlier—when the relationship has already ended emotionally, but nothing changes on the outside. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan are joined by returning guest Karen...
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187. Financial Discovery in Divorce: What Most People Miss Before Settlement
Most people enter divorce focused on legal steps. But divorce is ultimately a financial process—and the biggest mistakes happen before negotiations even begin. In this episode of Divorce Explored, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down financial discovery in divorce—what it is, why it...
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186. Co-Parenting Without Chaos: Tools That Protect Children After Divorce
Children don’t experience divorce through court documents or financial agreements. They experience it through tone, tension, and the daily communication between their parents. And when that communication stays reactive, unclear, or emotionally charged, children carry that instability with them.…
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185. Real Estate in Divorce: Selling, Buying, and Financial Risks - Part 2 of 2
Real Estate in Divorce: Selling, Buying, and Financial Risks Hosts: Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison & Co-Founder, My Divorce Solution Catherine Shanahan, CDFA & Co-Founder, My Divorce Solution In Part 2 of this conversation on real estate and divorce, Karen and Catherine focus on what happens when...
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184. Divorce Explored: Dividing Real Estate in Divorce - Part 1 of 2
When to Sell, When to Wait, and Why “Feeling Protected” Isn’t the Same as Being Protected Hosts: Karen Chellew (Legal Liaison & Co-Founder, My Divorce Solution) + Catherine Shanahan (Divorce Financial Specialist, CDFA & Co-Founder, My Divorce Solution) Real estate is often the biggest (and most...
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183. The Financial Gap No One Talks About in Divorce — with Emily Pollock
Divorce is not just emotional. It’s economic. In this powerful episode of the We Chat Divorce, Karen and Catherine sit down with Emily Pollock, partner at Donohoe Talbert LLP and one of Forbes Advisor’s Top 10 Divorce Attorneys in New York City. With over 15 years of experience in high-net-worth...
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182. Amicable Divorce, Uncontested Divorce & California’s 2026 Joint Petition: Why Financial Clarity Still Matters
Many couples going through divorce say the same thing: “We’re amicable. We just want to get this done.” In this episode of Divorce Explored, a series within the We Chat Divorce podcast, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan unpack what amicable actually means—and why emotional calm is not the same...
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181. Forensic Accounting in Divorce: What It Can (and Can’t) Do, with Sarah Nanchanatt
When people hear “forensic accountant” during divorce, expectations run high. Many assume it means hidden money will automatically be uncovered or that every financial mystery will be solved. The reality is more nuanced—and far more strategic. In this episode, we sit down with Sara Nanchanatt,...
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180. Divorce, Mortgages, and the Cost of Bad Decisions with Jody Bruns
In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison, and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA®, sit down with Jody Bruns, founder of the Certified Divorce Lending Professional (CDLP®) certification and the creator of the divorce mortgage planning profession. The conversation focuses on one of…
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179. AI vs. Divorce Strategy: Why a QDRO Answer Is Not a Settlement Plan
AI can explain what a QDRO is — but it cannot protect your financial future. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down why relying on AI for retirement division in divorce leads to costly, irreversible mistakes. They explain what QDROs actually do, what…
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178. Staying Calm, Clear, and Confident in a High-Conflict Divorce with Karen McMahon
In this powerful episode of We Chat Divorce, we sit down with Karen McMahon, high-conflict divorce strategist, certified divorce coach, and founder of Journey Beyond Divorce. Karen shares her deeply personal story of surviving a prolonged, high-conflict divorce—and how that experience became the...
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177. Divorce Is a Business Deal: Strategy for High-Conflict Divorce with Courtney Harkness
High-conflict divorces thrive on chaos. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, hosts Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with divorce strategist and coach Courtney Harkness to explain why treating divorce like a business deal—not an emotional battleground—can dramatically shift power,...
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176. Divorce Explored: Your Divorce Financial Roadmap: A Clear Path Forward
Most people would never start a cross-country trip without a map — yet that’s exactly how divorce begins for millions of people every year. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down the concept almost no one talks about early enough: the financial divorce...
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175. Divorce During the Holidays: How to Protect Your Peace, Your Wallet, and Your Future
The holidays are supposed to be joyful — but when you’re navigating divorce, they can feel emotionally overwhelming, financially stressful, and deeply isolating. In this episode of Divorce Explored on the We Chat Divorce Podcast, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan have an honest, grounding...
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174. Divorcing a Narcissist: How to Break the Emotional Grip and Get Financial Clarity with Dr. Onalee
Narcissistic partners don’t just manipulate emotions — they manipulate money, security, and your sense of stability. In divorce, that mix is dangerous: fear clouds judgment, and confusion gets expensive. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew (Legal Liaison) and Catherine Shanahan...
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173. Expert Divorce Advice with Susan Guthrie: Mediation, Financial Clarity & the Real Cost of Divorce
In this powerful episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen and Catherine sit down with Susan Guthrie—one of the nation’s leading family law attorneys, top divorce mediators, and a recent guest on the Oprah podcast—to break down the realities of navigating divorce in today’s turbulent economic climate.…
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172. Divorcing a Narcissist: Post-Separation Abuse, Financial Manipulation & Finding Your Power with Jackie Miller
In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with high-conflict divorce coach and post-separation abuse strategist Jackie Miller to talk about what it really looks like to divorce a narcissist, survive Crazy Town, and protect yourself from financial abuse…
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171. Thanksgiving, Money, and Divorce: How to Navigate the Holidays With Clarity Instead of Crisis
The holidays can magnify every stress you’re carrying—especially if you’re quietly preparing for a separation, navigating financial uncertainty, or simply trying to hold things together one more season. In this special Thanksgiving episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan...
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170. Rewiring Fear: Divorce, the Brain and the Path Back to Yourself with Isabelle Ulenaers
Your brain isn’t wired to make you happy — it’s wired to keep you safe. During divorce, that “safety system” often looks like fear, guilt, second-guessing, and staying stuck in situations that no longer serve you. In this powerful episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan…
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169. Rebranding Divorce: Post-Divorce Growth Cycle, Money & Self-Care
Rebranding Divorce: The Post-Divorce Growth Cycle—Radical Self-Care, Money Confidence, and Community Founders Mimi Sullivan and Carolyn Bilyak of Rebranding Divorce join Karen and Catherine to unpack the Post-Divorce Growth Cycle—a practical framework that helps women move from survival to...
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168. Mediation Mistakes That Can Cost You Thousands | Divorce Financial Clarity Explained
Thinking about divorce mediation? Before you walk into the room, ask yourself one question: What exactly are you mediating if you don’t even know what you have? In this episode of Divorce Explored, Karen Chellew (Legal Liaison) and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA® (Certified Divorce Financial Analyst)...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Divorce is emotional — but it’s also financial. We Chat Divorce helps you understand both.
Join hosts Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, co-founders of My Divorce Solution, for expert divorce insights, real stories, and proven financial strategies that turn fear into focus, focus into knowledge, and knowledge into power.
Whether you’re just considering divorce, in the middle of it, or rebuilding after, you’ll learn how to protect your finances, make informed decisions, and move forward with clarity and confidence.
The #1 podcast for financial divorce preparation, empowerment, and real talk about money, marriage, and moving on.
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My Divorce Solution
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