Wealth Building With Options

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Wealth Building With Options

Welcome to the Wealth Building With Options Podcast with Dan Passarelli. This podcast is dedicated to making you a calm, consistent and confident options trader. Inside each episode, Passarelli, an options industry veteran, helps you avoid the common mistakes, pitfalls and misconceptions about options trading as a consistent wealth building activity. You will discover actionable strategies to build wealth using assets you may already own. With a primary focus on the traditional “Wheel Strategy,” Passarelli taps his 30+ years as a market maker on the Cboe floor and options educator for investment firms, traders and international governments to make the process simple, straightforward and effective. As a subscriber to the Wealth Building With Options Podcast you will gain the valuable insights only an experienced trader and educator can provide. You’ll discover the keys to making covered calls and cash-secured puts work for you as a consistent wealth building activity. Whether you are in

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    Ep65 - Best Markets for Wheel Trades

    Dan breaks down which market environments are most favorable for the wheel strategy and why. While sideways, range-bound markets create ideal conditions for consistent income through covered calls and cash-secured puts, trending markets introduce new challenges. Dan also dives into the psychological side of trading, explaining how regime changes can trigger emotional responses that impact decision-making and performance. Key Topics Why sideways (channel-bound) markets are ideal for wheel trading How market “regimes” impact options strategies Performance of covered calls and cash-secured puts in trending markets Why downward markets can still favor covered calls The challenges of rolling positions during strong trends Behavioral finance: loss aversion and regime shifts The “fight, flight or freeze” response in trading decisions How emotional reactions can derail trade management The importance of having a predefined plan and objective Key Takeaways Sideways markets are the sweet spot for the wheel strategy, offering smoother and more predictable income opportunities. Strong trending markets (up or down) tend to reduce the effectiveness of the wheel and require more active management. Covered calls can perform well in down markets, helping offset declines through premium collection. Frequent rolling in trending markets can lead to reduced profits or small losses across multiple cycles. Psychological responses to losses, especially after favorable conditions, can impair judgment. The “fight or flight” responses can be valid strategies, but “freeze” (inaction) is the most dangerous. Having a clear trade plan and management strategy is critical to avoiding emotional decision-making. Connect Order Building Wealth With Options on Amazon or your preferred retailer Or get a signed copy through the All-In Wealth Builder program (plus training and exclusive content) Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Subscribe on your preferred podcast platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep64 - Today Is the Day!

    In this milestone episode, Dan celebrates the official release of his new book, Build Consistent Wealth With Options. He reflects on the journey behind the book—years of trading experience, teaching and refining the wheel strategy—and thanks listeners for being part of that process through the podcast. What began as a companion to the book evolved into a full educational series, documenting the concepts and insights that ultimately shaped the final product. Dan emphasizes that this book represents the culmination of decades of work and that, unlike many trading authors, he chose not to hold anything back. With early momentum already placing the book among top sellers in its category on Amazon, he encourages the community to support the launch and help it reach the No. 1 spot. Listeners can purchase the book through major retailers or receive a signed copy by joining the All-In Wealth Builder program, which also includes additional training, coaching and exclusive content. Connect Order Building Wealth With Options on Amazon or your preferred retailer Or get a signed copy through the All-In Wealth Builder program (plus training and exclusive content) Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Subscribe on your preferred podcast platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep63 - Poor Man’s Covered Calls

    Dan breaks down the poor man’s covered call, a strategy that uses a longer-term in-the-money call instead of stock, paired with a shorter-term out-of-the-money call sold against it. The result is a capital-efficient alternative to a traditional covered call, with less downside exposure but its own tradeoffs in time decay, volatility and assignment risk. Dan explains how to set these trades up, what greeks matter most, and how to manage and roll them effectively. Key Topics What a poor man’s covered call is and why traders use it How a diagonal call spread mimics a covered call with less capital Why the long in-the-money call acts as a stock proxy The built-in downside protection of owning a call instead of stock How time value creates both protection cost and opportunity Why these setups can work especially well after a stock has fallen sharply The role of delta, theta and vega in building the trade Why positive theta is essential to making the strategy work Using resistance and skate-objective thinking for the short call How to manage the trade by rolling the short call up and out Why assignment on the short call should be avoided When to exit the entire trade instead of continuing to roll Key Takeaways A poor man’s covered call is not really a covered call. It’s a diagonal spread that behaves similarly, but the short call is not actually covered by stock. The long call reduces capital requirements. That makes the strategy useful for smaller accounts or for traders who want to deploy less cash. Downside risk is limited. Since you own a call instead of stock, the maximum loss is what you paid for the long call. The long call also has a cost. Its time value acts like the price paid for that built-in protection. Theta is the engine. The strategy works best when the short call decays faster than the long call, producing net positive theta. Strike selection matters a lot. The long strike controls delta; the short strike must balance premium, theta and room for the stock to rise. Resistance helps with the short call. Since this is always a skate-objective trade, technical analysis matters for choosing a short strike the stock is less likely to breach. Management is active. Ideally, the stock rises toward but not through the short strike, allowing repeated roll-ups and more premium collection. Avoid short-call assignment. If the short call moves in the money, action is usually needed because there is no stock to deliver. This is more of a trade than an investment. If the stock behaves differently than expected, it may make more sense to exit than to keep adjusting.  Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep62 - Managing Cash Reserves for Wheel Traders

    Dan explains why cash management is more complicated than it first appears for wheel traders. It’s not just about how much of your account is “in cash,” but how much is actually available to trade, manage positions and respond to new opportunities. Dan walks through how account size, skill level, market conditions and strategy type all affect cash allocation, and he shares a real-world example of why being “fully invested” can leave you unable to close or roll a covered call when you need to. Key Topics Why cash management is trickier in options trading than it looks The difference between net liquidating value and actual available cash Why brokers show multiple cash categories and why that creates confusion How skill level should influence how much cash you keep reserved Why newer traders should keep a very high percentage of their account in cash How market conditions affect whether it makes sense to be more or less invested Why cash itself can be viewed as a position Strategy type and the role of cash in options-based investing How cash-secured puts tie up capital even though they bring in premium Why covered call traders need cash reserves for trade management A real example of being unable to buy back a short call due to insufficient available cash Why stock sales don’t instantly solve the problem because of T+1 settlement Key Takeaways Cash is not as simple as it looks on your screen. In options-enabled accounts, “cash” can mean several different things depending on the broker. Available cash matters more than headline account value. A high account balance doesn’t help if you can’t actually use the cash to manage a trade. Newer traders should stay heavily in cash. Until your system is proven in practice, preserving flexibility matters more than maximizing deployment. Being fully invested can create management risk. You may not be able to close or roll short options if you don’t have enough free cash available. Cash-secured puts consume more usable capital than many traders realize. The premium comes in, but the strike value is still tied up for margin. Covered calls require reserve cash too. Even though they reduce risk, you still need cash on hand to buy back short options when necessary. Settlement timing matters. Selling stock today may not free up usable cash until the next trading day. Cash reserves are part of the strategy. They are not idle money if they help you manage risk, maintain flexibility and stay in control. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep61 - Rich People Problems

    In this episode of Wealth Building with Options, Dan Passarelli tackles a unique—but very real—challenge faced by investors with large, concentrated stock positions. If a significant portion of your wealth is tied up in a single stock—whether from years at a company, stock-based compensation, or inheritance—you may face a difficult tradeoff: Sell shares and trigger a large tax bill Or hold the position and limit your flexibility But what happens when you’re generating income with covered calls… and suddenly get assigned? That’s where things can get complicated. What You’ll Discover in This Episode Why concentrated stock positions can create hidden tax risks How covered call assignment can trigger unexpected tax consequences What “tax lot selection” is—and why it matters more than most traders realize How settlement timing (T+1) can create strategic opportunities A little-known tactic that may help reduce tax impact when assigned The Core Idea Many brokers allow you to choose which shares are sold (or assigned) when closing a position—this is called tax lot selection. If used correctly, this can potentially: Protect low-cost basis shares Reduce taxable gains Give you more control over assignment outcomes In certain situations, it may even be possible to: Purchase new shares Assign those instead of your long-held, low-basis shares But—and this is critical—this strategy depends heavily on: Your broker’s capabilities Current tax laws Your specific financial situation Important Disclaimer This is not a one-size-fits-all strategy. Before attempting anything discussed in this episode, you should: Speak with your broker Consult your CPA or tax professional Rules, policies, and tax implications can vary—and mistakes here can be costly. Why This Matters for Wheel Traders Even if you’re not sitting on a massive concentrated position, this concept is still highly relevant. If you trade: Covered calls Cash-secured puts The Wheel strategy Understanding how assignment works at the tax lot level can give you: More control More flexibility Potentially better after-tax outcomes Resources Mentioned Get updates and bonuses for Dan’s upcoming book: BCWWO.com Become a paid subscriber for additional training, trade ideas, and live sessions: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Final Thought Building wealth isn’t just about making money—it’s about keeping more of what you make.And sometimes, the difference comes down to knowing the rules most traders overlook. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document   Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.     Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep60 - Fear and Loathing In The Stock Market

    When markets crash, most investors panic. They react emotionally. They sell at the worst possible time. And they miss the very opportunities that could change their long-term results. In this episode, Dan Passarelli breaks down what really happens during market selloffs—and how disciplined traders can position themselves to take advantage of fear instead of being controlled by it. Key Topics Why fear drives irrational behavior during market crashes What “capitulation” really means—and why it matters How V-shaped recoveries form (and why they happen so fast) The relationship between falling markets and rising implied volatility Why most traders buy puts at exactly the wrong time How experienced traders use volatility spikes to their advantage A real-world breakdown of trading through the 2020 market crash The long-term mindset required to execute during extreme market conditions Key Insight When fear peaks, opportunity is often highest. Implied volatility surges, prices disconnect from reality, and emotional selling creates mispricing. Traders who stay patient—and think long term—can position themselves to benefit. Connect Get updates and bonuses for Dan’s upcoming book: https://BCWWO.com Become a premium subscriber: https://wealthbuildingpodcast.com Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep59 - We’re in the Money!

    Dan breaks down how to think about in-the-money covered calls and in-the-money cash-secured puts. These trades can be powerful tools when you want to sell stock more efficiently or buy it at an effective discount, but they require a different mindset. Dan explains how to separate intrinsic value from time value, how to evaluate the real benefit of the trade and how to weigh assignment probability against the risk of missing a larger move. Key Topics Why in-the-money covered calls can make sense when you want to exit a stock Separating intrinsic value and time value for clearer trade analysis Thinking of intrinsic value on covered calls as a direct hedge Why time value is the true benefit of selling an in-the-money covered call Choosing between shorter-term and longer-term in-the-money covered calls The key risk: the stock falls below the strike and you don’t get assigned Why lower strikes may make more sense as you go further out in time How in-the-money cash-secured puts differ from standard put-selling setups Using ITM puts to target assignment while still getting an effective discount Why these trades can smooth returns but also cap upside participation Key Takeaways In-the-money covered calls are often best used to sell stock you no longer want to own. They can increase assignment odds while still paying you time premium. Time value is the real edge. Intrinsic value mostly offsets the stock price difference; extrinsic value is what improves the transaction. Shorter-term ITM covered calls are often cleaner. They usually offer a simpler risk/reward tradeoff when the goal is just to get out. Longer-dated ITM calls can work, but they require more judgment. You’re balancing more time premium against more time for the stock to move. With in-the-money cash-secured puts, not getting assigned is the risk. The goal is to buy the stock at an effective discount, not just collect premium. ITM puts can outperform buying stock outright—up to a point. But if the stock rallies too much, you may miss a larger upside move. The wheel smooths returns. You often give up some upside in exchange for more consistency and less downside pain. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep58 - Predicting Assignments

    Dan explains when option assignment is predictable, when it isn’t and why understanding the other side of the trade matters. He breaks down expiration mechanics, strike-price pinning, early exercise around dividends, deep in-the-money put assignment and hard-to-borrow stocks. He points out that while assignment is usually straightforward, in certain situations strategy and market mechanics can make outcomes much less obvious. Key Topics Why assignment usually follows the standard “in the money by a penny” rule How long option holders can override automatic exercise Why wheel traders don’t choose assignment—they only receive it Strike-price pinning and why it creates assignment uncertainty Strike clustering and why stocks close near strikes more often than expected How market makers hedge pinned positions and decide how many options to exercise Extended-hours moves and how they can affect exercise decisions after the close When skate-objective traders should close or roll to avoid assignment uncertainty Early exercise risk for in-the-money calls before ex-dividend dates Early assignment risk for deep in-the-money puts when interest costs exceed time value How hard-to-borrow stocks can increase the likelihood of early call assignment Key Takeaways Most assignments are intuitive. If an option expires in the money, it usually gets exercised; if it expires out of the money, it usually doesn’t. Pin risk makes things messy. When a stock closes right at or near the strike, assignment becomes less predictable because hedgers may exercise only part of their position. If assignment certainty matters, don’t leave pinned options on. Close or roll short options near the strike before expiration. Strike clustering is real. Stocks tend to close near strike prices more often than a purely random distribution would suggest. Dividend risk matters for covered calls. In-the-money calls are more likely to be assigned the day before an ex-dividend date. Deep ITM puts can be assigned early too. When carrying the stock hedge becomes more expensive than the put’s remaining time value, exercise becomes more likely. Hard-to-borrow stocks add another wrinkle. Early call assignment becomes more likely when market makers want to reduce short-stock hedge risk. Most of the time, the wheel continues either way. But when avoiding gap risk or protecting a skate objective matters, assignment prediction becomes much more important. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep57 - GTCs and Birds and Bees

    Dan continues the conversation on liquidity, execution and trade management by focusing on good-till-canceled (GTC) orders, gap risk and the trade-offs of handling illiquid options. He explains when it makes sense to let options expire rather than overpay to close them, why rolling illiquid in-the-money options is often impractical and how traders can still create solid opportunities in wide markets. Key Topics Using GTC orders to automate exits on covered calls and cash-secured puts Choosing 3-cent, 5-cent or 10-cent GTC bids based on liquidity and price increments The decision between rolling, waiting or letting short options expire Why paying up to close illiquid far OTM options is often a waste In-the-money illiquid options and why larger delta usually means wider spreads Why rolling illiquid ITM options is often unrealistic The trade-off between certain overpayment and random gap risk Why accepting expiration or assignment often captures full theta value Market makers vs. retail traders as liquidity providers Why a wide market can still produce a good trade if the return meets your criteria Key Takeaways GTC orders can improve efficiency. If the order isn’t working, it can’t get filled, so having resting close orders in place creates opportunities you’d otherwise miss. Don’t overpay for worthless options. On expiration day, paying a nickel or dime to close a far OTM illiquid option is often just throwing away theta. Illiquid ITM options are a different beast. Wider spreads reflect higher hedging risk for market makers, which makes rolling much harder and more expensive. Overpaying is certain; gap risk is random. In many illiquid situations, accepting expiration or assignment adds volatility, but avoids a guaranteed drag on returns. Letting options expire can be the best price. Expiration or assignment removes all time value, which is effectively the most favorable close possible. Different option classes have different personalities. Some names are easier to middle, some resist all compromise, and repeated trading helps you learn the difference. What matters most is the trade’s value to you. If the annualized return and setup fit your plan, a wide market can still produce a worthwhile trade. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep56 - Wait. WHAT About Alice?

    Dan is joined by returning guest John Kmiecik to unpack the real-world consequences of trading illiquid options (wide bid/ask spreads, low volume/open interest and “roach motel” trades you can’t exit efficiently). They also discuss how expanding strike/expiration listings can fragment liquidity, even in big names, and when a “one-sided” wheel trade can justify holding through expiration. Key Topics What liquidity is and why it’s central to wheel trading execution The “roach motel” problem: easy to enter, painful to exit First-pass liquidity checks: bid/ask spread as the quickest warning sign Supporting clues: volume and open interest (and why they usually align with spreads) The risk of trading unknown tickers with wide spreads Position sizing vs. liquidity: why 1,000-share covered calls can be hard to unwind in thin names Liquidity fragmentation from more strikes/expirations (including M/W/F listings) Surprising pockets of illiquidity even in large underlyings depending on expiration Earnings timing and why certain expirations may be missing or avoided When illiquid wheel trades can still work: entering with a plan to hold to expiration Key Takeaways Bid/ask spread is the “tell.” If it’s wide, you don’t need more proof; execution costs are already embedded in that market. Illiquidity turns profits into mirages. You can be “right” on paper and still struggle to exit near breakeven because the spread eats the edge. Volume/open interest matter, but spreads matter more. Low OI/volume often explains wide markets; the spread is the final summary metric. Size must match the option market. The bigger your position (e.g., 10-lot calls), the more liquidity becomes non-negotiable. More expirations can mean worse trading. Adding strikes and expirations can dilute order flow, widening markets even in otherwise liquid names. Not all expirations are created equal. Liquidity can vary dramatically across adjacent expirations; always check the specific chain you plan to trade. One-sided wheel trades offer an escape hatch. If you can enter at a price that meets your plan and intend to hold to expiration, liquidity on the exit may be irrelevant. Your trading plan decides the tolerance. If rolling/active management is required, illiquidity is a bigger threat; if “hold to expiry” is acceptable, you have more flexibility. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0 Car Screech car screech.wav by SGAK -- https://freesound.org/s/467794/ -- License: Creative Commons 0

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    Ep55 - Pro Tips on Middling Markets

    Dan explains why execution price is the one place retail traders truly “compete” with market makers and how improving it can dramatically reduce slippage, the biggest hidden cost in options trading. You’ll learn how market makers manage risk (delta-neutral hedging) and why they demand compensation through the bid/ask spread, plus practical tactics for middling markets, using resting orders and handling illiquid options without getting trapped by wide spreads. Key Topics Why execution price (not trade direction) is where you compete with market makers How market makers hedge: delta-neutral positioning and remaining Greek risks  Theoretical value vs. bid/ask and how slippage is “paying for liquidity” Practical middling: balancing a better price vs. the probability of getting filled Wide markets: what they signal about perceived risk and liquidity-provider behavior “Unknown counterparties” and why order flow behavior varies by underlying Behavioral traps: primacy effect and price anchoring when markets move Using resting (GTC) limit orders to target required yield (skate yield / dividend yield) “Wish list” orders: when they work and how they can tie up cash Managing very illiquid options: when the best exit tactic is the “do nothing” plan Key Takeaways Slippage dwarfs commissions. Selling the bid and buying the offer repeatedly can quietly erase edge. Market makers must be paid for risk. They hedge delta quickly, but still carry gamma/theta/vega exposure, so spreads exist for a reason. Middling is a skill, not a rule. The optimal limit price depends on liquidity, tick size (pennies vs. nickels) and how that option class trades. Start in the “middle range.” When uncertain, work an order roughly between the bid and theoretical value rather than immediately hitting the bid. Don’t let anchoring sabotage good trades. If the math still works at a new market price, the opportunity may still be valid. Resting orders align price with your plan. If you need a specific yield, let the market come to you instead of forcing a trade. Illiquidity changes the exit calculus. Sometimes closing early is an overpaying problem and a theta/opportunity-cost problem. Letting options expire can eliminate exit slippage. You accept gap risk, however, especially when assignment forces you to wait until Monday. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep54 - Managing Trading Expenses Like a Boss

    Dan breaks down the real costs of trading and why commissions, while worth managing, are rarely the biggest threat to your returns. The true hidden expense is slippage, driven largely by liquidity. He walks through how to evaluate option liquidity using bid-ask spreads, size, volume and open interest, and sets the stage for mastering the critical execution skill of middling the market. Key Topics Trading as a business with controllable operating expenses Why commissions are smaller than most traders think and how to negotiate them Slippage as the largest hidden cost in options trading The 10% Rule for evaluating bid-ask spreads Why liquidity should be assessed across multiple strikes and near-term expirations Using market size (contracts bid/asked) to gauge execution quality Understanding volume vs. open interest and what each reveals Why not all high-volume options are equally liquid The concept of theoretical value between bid and ask Introduction to middling the market to reduce slippage Key Takeaways Commissions are rarely the real problem. Slippage from poor execution can quietly cost far more. Tight markets matter. Consistent narrow bid-ask spreads across the option chain improve long-term results. Liquidity is multi-dimensional. Spread width, size, volume and open interest all contribute to execution quality. Market makers price around theoretical value. Trading too close to the bid or ask gives up edge. Execution skill compounds. Learning to work orders closer to the midpoint can materially improve performance over time. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep53 - Lemonade Stands and Other Moments of Trauma

    Dan explains how wheel-style covered calls can turn “meh” or even speculative stocks into strategic, risk-managed income plays through cumulative premium and even share-loan income. He also explores the often-overlooked reality that trading is a business with costs, especially taxes, commissions/fees and slippage. He shares two real trade stories to show how premium collection can create downside cushion and discusses practical tax considerations. Key Topics Turning “average” stocks into strong outcomes via options overlay Cumulative discount/hedge effect: premium as downside cushion over multiple call cycles Measuring returns: percent of cost basis, annualized return and if-called return framing Speculative wheel setups: when guidelines can be overridden by math Two-pronged income: covered call premium + stock loan interest in heavily shorted names The “lemonade stand” lesson: every business has input costs, trading included Core cost buckets: taxes, commissions/fees, slippage (and why they matter more than people think) Tax positioning: tax-deferred/tax-free accounts (e.g., IRA) for wheel cycles “Trader tax status”/treating trading as a business: what to ask your accountant 1256 contracts and index options: potential tax advantages and why they can clash with wheel mechanics Margin mechanics: why SPX vs. SPY mismatches can become naked exposure under Reg-T Portfolio margin considerations, eligibility requirements and broker-specific rules (and limits in IRAs) Key Takeaways Wheel returns are often about the premium, not the stock. A stock doesn’t need to be a “home run” if the options structure creates a favorable payoff. Cumulative premium reduces speculation. Each additional premium cycle increases downside cushion and improves the risk profile versus the initial entry. High-IV, high-short-interest setups can offer “double dip” income (option premium + share lending), but they are inherently higher risk and require intentional sizing and expectations. Treat trading like a business. Costs are real, especially taxes and execution friction, and ignoring them makes otherwise “good” trades look like they “don’t work.” Account selection matters for the wheel. Because the wheel mixes long-term stock holding with short-term option cycles, tax treatment can get messy in taxable accounts. Know the product mechanics before chasing tax benefits. Index options and 1256 treatment can be attractive, but wheel-style coverage can break if the underlying and option product don’t margin as a true covered position. Your next best move is better questions. Bring your accountant/broker targeted questions about account type, deductions/eligibility and margin rules. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep52 - Wheel Trades That Don’t Suck (Part II)

    Dan shifts from cash-secured put “double threat” setups to covered calls, especially the skate objective (keeping premium without assignment). He explains why technical analysis is often the most practical way to add edge to covered call strike selection, particularly by using resistance, momentum tools like RSI and realistic range expectations. He also walks through how to sanity-check any setup with annualized yield and what to do if the stock runs through your strike (accept assignment vs. roll proactively). Key Topics Covered calls vs. cash-secured puts: same structure, different investor use cases Planning covered calls by objective: skate (avoid assignment) vs. trade (sell stock) Why technical analysis is especially useful for covered call skate trades Resistance as a “speed bump” that can override pure probability distributions Momentum tools for topping signals: RSI (overbought pullback, divergences) and ADX Range expectations using volatility and why it’s informational, not true edge De-annualizing volatility to estimate a short-term range (standard deviation over DTE) Why “84% probability” strike-setting can be arbitrary and premium congruent Limitations of implied vs. historical volatility for strike selection Range indicators (Bollinger Bands/Keltner Channels): why Dan found them lacking Introducing Dan’s custom tool: PAS (Price History Anchored Strike) indicator Case study walkthrough: aligning resistance + PAS band, then validating with yield Decision tree when strike gets threatened: accept assignment vs. roll up / up-and-out Key Takeaways Resistance can provide edge. It often repels advances more than a purely random (lognormal) model would suggest, making it useful for protecting covered calls. TA beats “probability trivia.” Volatility-based strike placement mostly tells you odds that are already reflected in premium; resistance/RSI can add an extra “bump in the road.” Annualized yield is the filter. Even if the strike is well-placed, the covered call still needs to pay enough to justify the trade. Volatility estimates have limits. Implied volatility is heavily supply/demand-driven, and historical volatility may not match the coming regime. Use both cautiously. Strike selection is never exact. You’ll always round to listed strikes; the goal is stacking confirmations (e.g., resistance + PAS range). Management matters when the stock pushes through. If you want to keep shares, rolling early (often once ITM) is the proactive move; if not, assignment can be a clean exit. Know your outcomes in advance. Skate objective traders should define when they’ll roll; trade objective traders should focus on the if-called transaction return. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep51 – Wheel Trades That Don’t Suck

    Dan tackles a common complaint he hears from traders: “The wheel doesn’t work.” His take is straightforward: When wheel trades are placed without clear standards for strike selection, premium adequacy and outcome planning, they can absolutely “suck.” He shows how to build better wheel setups by using annualized return metrics (especially skate yield) and by designing trades where either outcome, skating or getting assigned, can be a win.  Key Topics Why many wheel trades fail: missing key nuances in setup and expectations Moving from “what do I do if X happens?” to “what outcome do I get if X happens?” The importance of minimum premium vs. stock price (and why a blanket rule won’t work) Using annualized returns to compare trades across different timeframes Cash-secured puts from first principles: premium as ROI on cash set aside Skate return on cash and skate yield as core wheel decision tools The “double threat” concept: designing puts where both skating and assignment are favorable Selecting put strikes using valuation targets (e.g., PE-based price targets) or support levels Picking expirations by calculating and comparing skate yield across multiple cycles Why far OTM puts often produce poor ROI despite still carrying meaningful risk Using the cumulative discount effect to improve future entry flexibility after repeated skates Key Takeaways Wheel trades don’t fail; bad wheel setups do. Most “the wheel sucks” stories trace back to poor strike/premium decisions and unclear objectives. Annualized yield is the best reality check. It keeps you from accepting premiums that look “fine” in dollars but are weak as an investment return. Skate yield is a power metric for cash-secured puts. Premium ÷ strike (annualized) lets you compare puts to other yield instruments like CDs and bonds. You don’t need trades to be repeatable for annualized returns to be useful. The point is selecting each unique opportunity with an attractive risk-adjusted return. Aim for “double win” setups. The best put trades can be structured so if you skate, you earn a strong yield on reserved capital, and if you get assigned, you buy shares at a price your analysis already says is attractive. Ignore post-trade regret about upside. If you wouldn’t buy the stock at today’s price, it’s not meaningful to lament “money left on the table.” Avoid the far-OTM trap. Low premium can create a poor ROI even if assignment risk feels “less likely.” Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep50 - That Which Is Measured Is Improved

    Dan lays out the core performance metrics that help wheel traders evaluate, compare, and improve covered calls and cash-secured puts. He explains why isolating the option component of returns matters and why annualizing turns “apples to apples.” He also introduces a powerful long-term concept, the cumulative discount effect, where repeated premium collection steadily lowers your effective risk over cycles. Key Topics Why measuring trade performance leads to better decision-making Separating the option “yield” from the stock’s P&L noise Covered call metrics: static return, annualized yield, if-called return Covered call reference points: breakeven/cost basis and indifference point Why time value (extrinsic) is the key input in these formulas Cash-secured put metrics: skate return on cash and annualized skate yield Cash-secured put reference points: breakeven/cost basis and indifference point Comparing cash-secured put yield to other investments (CDs, bonds, etc.) The cumulative discount effect across wheel cycles Why cumulative premium can reduce risk and improve Sharpe Ratio Clarifying “cost basis” vs. tax cost basis Key Takeaways Metrics create clarity. You can’t improve what you don’t measure, especially in a strategy built on small edges. Use time value, not total premium, for true option yield. Extrinsic is what decays and what you’re paid to harvest. Annualize to compare fairly. Annualized yield lets you compare different expirations and even different underlyings. Know your outcome scenarios. Static/skate metrics assume no assignment; if-called metrics assume assignment—both matter. Cumulative discount is the long-game advantage. Over cycles, repeated premiums lower effective entry price, reduce risk and can improve risk-adjusted returns. “Cost basis” here is conceptual, not tax guidance. Treat these as trading metrics—not tax accounting. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep49 - The Problem with Backtesting

    Dan takes a critical but balanced look at backtesting and why it often leads traders astray, especially when it comes to strike and expiration selection for covered calls and cash-secured puts. Drawing on decades of experience and firsthand work with traders and developers, Dan explains why backtesting tools have structural limitations, how those limitations create misleading conclusions, and why discretion, objectives and real-world market structure still matter far more than “optimal” backtested metrics. Key Topics What backtesting is—and what it’s actually good for Why strike and expiration selection matter so much for edge The hidden limitations of backtesting platforms Why support and resistance can’t be meaningfully backtested The subjectivity of fundamental analysis and valuation models Common backtesting strike rules: delta, % moneyness and standard deviation Why no single delta or strike distance can be “best” Rounding errors and incomplete option-chain data Entry/exit limitations caused by expensive market data Unintentional data fitting based on test time horizons How backtesting can create false confidence and bad habits Using objectives (skate vs. trade) to guide real-world strike selection Key Takeaways Backtesting is useful—but incomplete. It can inform strategy behavior, but it cannot capture discretion, context or market structure. Strike “optimization” is often an illusion. Apparent outperformance by a specific delta or distance is usually the result of rounding, data constraints or time-period bias. Markets don’t reward mechanical precision. If one delta were objectively superior, the options pricing model itself would be broken. Support, resistance and fundamentals matter but can’t be coded cleanly. These human-driven factors provide real edge but resist automation. Objectives should drive decisions. Use technical levels for skate trades and fundamentals for trade-objective setups. You’ll never get it perfectly right—and that’s OK. Adjustments and rolling are part of the wheel, not failures. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep 48 - The Wheel Strategy Resolutely

    Dan ties the wheel strategy to New Year’s resolutions, emphasizing that the wheel only works when it’s traded consistently and in cycles. He explains how to systematize the process so it fits into real life—reducing friction, minimizing time demands and making long-term wealth building sustainable. Key Topics Why the wheel succeeds only as a cyclical strategy Commitment to process over individual trades Fitting the wheel into your daily or weekly schedule Stock selection and trade execution timing Managing expirations, assignments and recycling trades Minimizing adjustments and ongoing maintenance Using planning and automation to save time Systemizing the wheel for long-term results Key Takeaways One-off trades don’t build wealth—cycles do. The power of the wheel comes from repeating the process consistently over time. Systemization is essential. A clear, repeatable routine makes the wheel sustainable and effective. The wheel must fit your life. When the strategy aligns with your schedule, it becomes manageable and even enjoyable. Time requirements are modest. With planning, most wheel maintenance takes minutes—not hours. Consistency beats intensity. A steady, methodical approach delivers better long-run results than sporadic effort. Make it a resolution worth keeping. This is the year to commit to a structured, cyclical investing process. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep47 - Not the Most Important Thing, But Important

    Dan puts implied volatility in its proper place: It’s not the single most important factor in wheel trading, but it meaningfully improves outcomes over time. Using a field-goal analogy, Dan explains how volatility analysis adds a “little edge” on each trade that compounds across many cycles. He then goes deeper into when volatility matters most, plus a practical framework for evaluating whether selling puts or calls into earnings creates a favorable “sweet spot.” Key Topics Why implied volatility is not the most important thing—but still important The 1-2-3 volatility analysis for identifying overpriced options Active vs. passive wheel trading and volatility requirements The wheel hierarchy: price movement, theta decay, then volatility Risk premium and why options tend to be overpriced over time “When in doubt, palms out” and the premium-seller mindset Volatility regimes and how prolonged low IV changes decisions When extremely high IV is a warning sign, not an opportunity Why IV matters less for ultra-short DTE options Earnings as a volatility event: when to avoid vs. exploit Using break-even and indifference points to find the earnings “sweet spot” Using puts to enter or calls to exit around earnings Key Takeaways IV is an edge, not the core driver. Underlying price movement and theta are usually more influential in wheel outcomes, but IV adds incremental advantage that compounds over time. Active and passive wheel traders use IV differently. Active traders may require confirmation that options are overpriced; passive traders may prioritize keeping the cycle going and capturing the long-run risk premium. Humility matters in volatility forecasting. You can’t know with certainty whether options are mispriced until after expiration, so rules-based processes help reduce overconfidence. Regime awareness beats day-to-day noise. A few low-IV days are normal; weeks or months of a pattern can justify sitting out or adjusting tactics, especially in strong rebound “freight train” markets. Extremes cut both ways. Slightly high IV can be attractive for selling, but extremely high IV may signal risk you don’t understand. Earnings setups can be evaluated objectively. Compare historical earnings gaps with the option’s break-even/indifference “sweet spot” to judge whether premium meaningfully compensates for the expected move. If selling calls to exit stock into earnings, assignment probability matters. At-the-money or slightly in-the-money calls can improve assignment odds and provide more downside cushion, but the true advantage comes from time premium, not intrinsic value. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep46 - Lost in Home Depot

    Dan explains why wheel traders must think about technical analysis differently from momentum or breakout traders. Using a Home Depot analogy, Dan shows how the right tool for the job matters—especially when selecting indicators for skate-objective trades. He dives into oscillators (with a focus on RSI) and introduces a new strike-selection concept he’s developing. Key Topics Why trends and momentum are often the enemy of wheel traders Using technical analysis to reduce trades per wheel cycle Choosing the right indicators for skate-objective trades Oscillators and how they differ from breakout indicators Deep dive into the Relative Strength Index (RSI) Overbought and oversold signals for covered calls and cash-secured puts RSI divergences and what they signal for wheel traders Introduction to the PAS (Price-history Anchored Strike) indicator Why wheel traders avoid “trendy” stocks Overview of volatility analysis as part of the options trader’s trifecta Key Takeaways Wheel traders don’t want momentum. Strong trends often force rolls, increase trade count and slow down wheel cycles. Technical analysis should reduce activity, not increase it. The goal is fewer trades per cycle, not more signals. Oscillators are better tools for wheel traders. Indicators like RSI help identify waning momentum rather than breakouts. RSI can improve strike selection. Overbought and oversold reversals—and divergences—can increase the odds of skating successfully. Indicators don’t predict the future. They provide a small statistical edge when used correctly. Volatility matters as much as price. Understanding whether options are overpriced or underpriced is critical for consistent income strategies. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Next Episode Preview: Next time, Dan goes deeper into volatility analysis, expanding on how wheel traders can evaluate implied volatility, historical volatility, and upcoming catalysts to improve covered call and cash-secured put decisions.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep45 - Abracadarium

    Dan demystifies one of the most misunderstood areas of technical analysis: support and resistance. Rather than treating these levels as “magic lines on a chart,” Dan explains the market mechanics behind them—how real buy and sell orders, supply and demand, and human decision-making actually move prices.  Key Topics Why support and resistance are commonly misunderstood Technical analysis as a map of human behavior (price, not value) The basics of market mechanics: bids, asks and order size How supply and demand move prices tick-by-tick How horizontal support and resistance levels are created Why price levels hold—and the three main reasons they break Moving averages (SMA/EMA) as dynamic support and resistance Why the 200-day moving average matters to institutions “Death cross” and “golden cross” and what they signal Applying support/resistance to wheel strike selection for skate trades Key Takeaways Support and resistance aren’t magic. They reflect real buying and selling pressure created by market participants. Technical analysis explains price behavior, not valuation. It tracks what price and volume did—and how traders reacted. Prices move through order flow. Buyers absorb offers to push price up; sellers take out bids to push price down. Support/resistance can fail for predictable reasons. Levels break when supply/demand overwhelms the other side, participants finish their trades or new information changes valuation inputs. Moving averages can become self-reinforcing levels. Long-term averages like the 200-day influence institutional decisions and can behave like support or resistance. Wheel traders can use these levels to improve skate trades. Support can inform cash-secured put strikes; resistance can inform covered call strikes. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Next Episode Preview: Next time, Dan continues building on technical analysis for wheel traders—going deeper into how to apply support, resistance and key chart-based levels to choose strikes that improve the probability of skating without assignment.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep44 - Secret Sauce Stuff

    Dan breaks down the true “secret sauce” of successful wheel trading: pairing the right objective (trade vs. skate) with the right type of analysis (fundamental vs. technical). He demonstrates how to reverse-engineer strike prices using dividend yields and valuation metrics and walks through a real example using Verizon (VZ). Key Topics Defining the skate objective vs. the trade objective Why trade objective trades pair naturally with fundamental analysis Why skate objective trades pair naturally with technical analysis How to reverse-engineer strike prices using target dividend yields How to set strike prices using target P/E ratios Real-world example: Verizon (VZ) dividend and valuation analysis When to wait for better pricing or volatility before selling puts Preview of using support and resistance for skate trades Key Takeaways Every wheel trade needs a single, clear objective. Choose either skate (avoid assignment) or trade (seek assignment) to stay consistent and intentional. Match your analysis to your objective. Use fundamentals for trade-objective entries and technicals for skate-objective premium selling. Reverse-engineer your strike prices. Start with the yield or valuation you want, determine the stock price that achieves it, and choose the strike accordingly. Premium can tweak your effective entry price—but don’t lose the plot. Premium helps refine entry, but fundamentals should guide the trade. Wheel trading can be “almost win–win,” but risk still exists. Assignment locks in value; non-assignment yields premium—but price risk remains. Conservative income plays can complement growth positions. High-yield value names can balance more aggressive holdings. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show. Next Episode Preview: Next time, Dan digs deeper into technical analysis for skate-objective trades, focusing on how horizontal support and resistance can help identify strike prices where the stock is less likely to move—boosting your confidence and consistency when selling premium.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep43 - How the Stock Market Works - Fundamentals

    Dan compares buying stocks to buying a dry cleaning business to demystify fundamental investing. Learn how value investors like Warren Buffett evaluate companies, and why understanding P/E ratios, earnings, and dividends can help you select better strike prices for your wheel trades. Key Topics The dry cleaner analogy: why buying stock is just like buying a business P/E ratios: what they reveal when comparing competitors Intrinsic value vs. market price Earnings (EPS): quarterly vs. trailing twelve months Dividend mechanics and dividend yield Using fundamental metrics to set strike prices for wheel trades Why the market isn't as efficient as you think Key Takeaways You actually own the business. When you buy stock, you own a proportional share of that company's revenue—it's literally your money. Dividend investors think backwards. While most people chase rising stocks, dividend investors wait patiently for prices to fall so they can lock in higher yields. Price isn't value. The stock market often disconnects from intrinsic value—that's where opportunities hide. Your fundamentals matter for strike selection. Understanding earnings and dividend yield can help you choose more strategic strike prices for covered calls and cash-secured puts. Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Get exclusive content including video trade walk-throughs, Dan's actual trades, monthly AMA webinars, and more: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Subscribe on your preferred platform and leave a review to help more traders discover the show.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep42 - Interview with Denise Shull

    Episode Summary In this conversation, Dan sits down with performance coach and former trader Denise Shull, author of Market Mind Games and the real-life inspiration for Wendy Rhoades on Billions. Denise explains why the old mantra “take the emotion out of trading” is scientifically wrong—and how learning to work with your emotions, instead of against them, can dramatically improve your decision-making. From intuition and regret to boredom, ADHD and market regime changes, this episode redefines what it means to be a “disciplined” trader. In This Episode, You’ll Discover: Why every decision requires emotion How modern neuroscience shows that perception is prediction—and that your brain is constantly asking, “Is this good or bad for me?” before you ever place a trade. Emotions as data—not distractions The difference between “integral” emotions (about the trade and market) and “incidental” emotions (about you, your P&L, identity and history), and why separating the two is a core trading edge. How to use intuition without going “on tilt” Why true intuition is unconscious pattern recognition built from experience (like a chef knowing a steak is done by sight) and when “I feel good about this trade” is useful versus dangerous. A practical method to blend logic and gut feel Denise’s 1–7 conviction/emotion scale, how granular emotional language improves performance and how to consciously factor “how much do I really believe this?” into your trading process. The real role of regret and how slumps start Why trying to “stay positive” can backfire, how unprocessed regret leads to trading slumps and how to use negative emotions to actually improve instead of burying them. Cutting the worst 5% of your trades How recognizing fear of future regret and choosing your “flavor of regret” can help you avoid revenge trades, impulse trades and the handful of decisions that wreck your year. Managing boredom and ADHD tendencies Practical ways traders can keep boredom from morphing into overtrading—by defining time frames, having intentional breaks and non-trading activities, and challenging the myth that you must always be in the market. Adapting to market regime changes How to think about market environments like different “genres of music,” why you don’t need to catch the exact top or bottom and how ego and the need to feel smart can sabotage regime shifts. The one daily practice Denise recommends The simple but powerful question—“What am I feeling and why?”—and how regularly sorting feelings into “about me” vs. “about the market” aligns you with how the human brain actually works. About Our Guest – Denise Shull Denise Shull is a former CBOE floor trader turned performance coach specializing in decision-making under risk and uncertainty. She holds a master’s degree in neuropsychoanalysis from the University of Chicago, traded at firms like Schonfeld, and later ran a day trading desk during the internet boom. Her work shows how emotion and cognition are intertwined in every decision—a theme she explores in her book Market Mind Games, which helped inspire the Wendy Rhoades character on Showtime’s Billions. Today, she coaches hedge fund managers, traders, and elite athletes around the world on how to use emotions and intuition as a competitive edge.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document   Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep41 - That's a Great Idea!

    Finding quality trade ideas for the Wheel Strategy is essential—but where do you actually get them? In this episode, Dan Passarelli breaks down the best (and worst) sources for finding wheel trade candidates. From trade idea services and investment clubs to news media and DIY analysis, Dan explores the pros and cons of each approach and shares what really works for covered calls and cash-secured puts. Dan also discusses why boring, sideways stocks make the best wheel candidates, why the pundits' favorite stocks are often the trickiest to trade, and teases an upcoming series on fundamental, technical, and volatility analysis for building your own watchlist. What You'll Discover in This Episode: Trade idea services: The difference between "general trades" and wheel-specific investment ideas Why most trade idea services only give entries (not exits) and how to evaluate them Investment clubs: Learning from peers and building synergy through shared knowledge The media trap: Why stocks that "bleed" or soar aren't always ideal for wheel trading Selling options is selling volatility: Why sideways stocks outperform for covered calls and CSPs DIY analysis preview: Dan's upcoming deep-dive episodes on fundamental, technical, and volatility analysis The role of "idea people" in trading and why dreams need execution Resources & Links: Subscribe to the Wealth Building With Options Podcast Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Support the Show: Become a paid subscriber at WealthBuildingPodcast.com for access to video extras, subscriber-only trade ideas, all of Dan's real covered call and cash-secured put trades, monthly AMA webinars, and unusual options activity alerts   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep40 - The Data: Interview with James Kostulias, Head of Trading Services, Charles Schwab

    In this episode of Wealth Building with Options, Dan sits down with James Kostulias, Head of Trading Services at Schwab—where he oversees the end-to-end trading experience for clients at a firm averaging over 7 million trades per day for three consecutive quarters. From Schwab’s latest Q4 Trader Sentiment Survey to the dramatic evolution from “options are too risky” to “options as risk management tools,” James shares an insider’s view of how retail trading has fundamentally transformed. If you've ever wondered how serious traders think about hedging, income generation, and adapting to different market regimes, this conversation is packed with insights you can put to work in your own trading. Listen, You'll Discover Why traders are “bullish but cautious” right now — How Schwab’s Q4 Trader Sentiment Survey shows more than half of respondents are bullish on the market long term—while a growing majority (66%, up from 56%) also think it’s overvalued in the short term. How options fit a bullish-but-worried mindset — The specific ways traders are using stock replacement, covered calls, hedging, and other options strategies to stay invested while managing downside risk. The evolution of the retail options trader — How clients have shifted from viewing options as “too risky” to using them as core risk-management tools—and why 1 in 3 traders (versus 1 in 5 just two years ago) are now moving into complex options within their first year. From 90% traders to 50/50 — How Schwab’s live events have evolved from primarily attracting active traders to drawing equal numbers of long-term investors seeking to use options for income generation and risk management—a major shift in just 18 months. The education engine behind today’s options traders — A look at Schwab’s massive education effort: 30–35 hours of live webinars per week, extensive on-demand courses and articles, and 22–24 live events per year—all completely free to clients. Inside the numbers — Why Schwab’s position as the industry leader—averaging 7+ million trades daily—makes their client-behavior insights uniquely valuable for understanding real market trends. Investors vs. traders: why the label doesn’t matter — Why James believes you shouldn’t get hung up on whether you’re a “trader” or an “investor,” and how Schwab supports both ends of the spectrum with specialized desks and resources. 24/5 trading: powerful tool or dangerous temptation? — The real pros and cons of extended-hours and 24/5 trading, how U.S. clients use it episodically while international clients leverage it as their primary trading window, and why trying to be “on” around the clock can work against you. What’s coming next for options traders at Schwab — How Schwab is preparing for spot crypto trading (first half of next year), expanded CBOE options hours (one hour earlier, 15 minutes later), and single-stock 0DTEs (expected in a Q1 launch window)—and why doing it “the Schwab way” means platforms, risk tools, and education must all be ready before launch. The one skill James thinks traders must develop — His biggest piece of advice: learn to adapt your strategies to changing market conditions instead of forcing one “favorite” strategy on every environment. Guest Bio – James Kostulias James Kostulias is Head of Trading Services at Schwab, where he oversees the end-to-end trading experience for clients, including the award-winning thinkorswim suite of platforms. With more than 25 years in financial services—much of it with TD Ameritrade in retail, technology, and active trader leadership roles—James has been at the forefront of the industry’s evolution from “options are too risky” to “options as risk management.” He has served as a board member and former president of the Wall Street Technology Association, previously sat on FINRA’s Technology Advisory Committee, and is a graduate of the SIFMA Securities Institute program at Wharton. He holds a B.A. in Business Administration from Rutgers University along with Series 47, 24, and 63 licenses. Resources & Links Schwab Q4 Trader Sentiment Survey – quarterly insights into trader sentiment, available at Schwab.com Schwab Trading Activity Index (STAX) – monthly insights into actual client trading behavior, available at Schwab.com Learn more about options education and coaching with Dan at MarketTaker.com Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons  Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep39 - Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!

    Why Traders Lie to Themselves — and How to Stop When it comes to covered calls and cash-secured puts, most traders tell themselves comforting half-truths: “I’d be fine owning the stock if it drops.” “I’d be fine selling my shares if they get called away.” But when those scenarios actually happen—when a stock gaps lower or rallies far past a strike—those same traders often panic, blame the market, and forget the plan they swore they’d follow. In this episode, Dan Passarelli unpacks the psychology behind these lies and how to replace emotional trading with data-driven discipline. Through relatable stories (including a red-light ticket and an ancient Roman twist), Dan shows why even the smartest investors fall into the trap of self-deception—and how to break free from it. In This Episode Why traders say they’re okay with assignment—but secretly aren’t How cash-secured puts and covered calls reveal your true comfort with risk The real “sweet spot” where these strategies outperform the market How to use data and visualization to make smarter, more objective decisions What mirror neurons and Michael Jordan can teach you about trading mastery How to “outhuman your humanness” by training your brain to respond with logic instead of emotion Key Takeaway You can’t control the market—but you can control how you react. When you make trading decisions based on logic and data, not emotion or ego, you gain a consistent edge. Covered calls and cash-secured puts might not make you rich overnight—but they can help you steadily outperform by losing less when others panic. Subscribe & Support: WealthBuildingPodcast.com — Get access to video extras, subscriber-only trade ideas, Dan’s real covered call and cash-secured put trades, monthly AMAs, and unusual options activity alerts. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/ -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep38 - The Objective of My Affliction

    Episode 38: The Objective of My Affliction 95% of traders lose money. Not because they're not smart—but because they're missing something fundamental. In this episode: What if most traders are making the same mistake with every single trade? What's the simple two-word framework that changes everything? Why don't even experienced traders understand the real secret to consistent profitability? What if you could improve your results overnight with one mindset shift? This episode is short but mighty. Discover what separates the winning 5% from everyone else.     Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep37 - Prospect

    Summary: Dan Passarelli sits down with coach John Kmiecik to unpack why smart traders still struggle with losses, risk, and variance—and how to reframe decisions using Prospect Theory. They cover loss aversion, the disposition effect, myopic loss aversion, “house money” mental accounting, and practical coaching tactics (like multiple exits and portfolio-level thinking) to build discipline. Dan also corrects a note from last week: neuroscientist John Coates earned his degrees at the University of Cambridge. Key Takeaways Prospect Theory in practice: Most traders feel losses about twice as strongly as equivalent gains, which skews decisions if left unmanaged. Loss aversion shows up everywhere: Hesitating to take small losses, rolling losers “to get back to even,” and cutting winners too early. Myopic loss aversion: Staring at a single position and checking P&L too often leads to reactive choices; think in portfolios, not trades. Multiple-exit approach: Taking a small, early profit can make it psychologically easier to hold for the primary target. Variance desensitization: You must get comfortable with swings; focus on net outcomes over a series of trades, not tick-by-tick moves. Mental accounting pitfalls: “Playing with house money” is a trap—capital is capital, regardless of where it came from. Framing matters: “Selling a put” can be reframed as “agreeing to buy shares at a discount with volatility rebates,” then managed by plan. Preparedness beats FOMO: If you miss a setup, another will come. Have every “twist and turn” covered in your plan before the trade. Practical Tools Mentioned Multiple-exit method: Scale out (e.g., take a small “comfort” profit, then hold for the main target). Portfolio-level targets: Judge results over a basket of trades, not a single outcome. Account hygiene: Close the P&L window when it provokes impulsive behavior. Pre-mortems: Visualize assignment, gaps, and management steps before you enter. Links & Resources Become a paid subscriber for video extras and trade ideas: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Learn more about Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: markettaker.com About the Guest John Kmiecik is a senior coach at Market Taker Mentoring. He works 1-on-1 with traders on strategy selection, risk management, and the psychology required to execute consistently. Support the Show Subscribe on your favorite platform (Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etc.). Ratings and reviews help more traders find the show—thank you for spreading the word. This is an ad-free podcast. Paid subscriptions keep it going and unlock members-only benefits. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep36 - Crossing the Red Dragon

    In this episode, Dan Passarelli explores how biology and psychology quietly influence every trading decision—often more than logic or data. Through a story that begins in the Chicago trading pits and leads all the way to a conference in Hong Kong, Dan recounts his unexpected encounter with John Coates, a former Goldman Sachs trader turned neuroscientist and author of The Hour Between Dog and Wolf. That meeting opened Dan’s eyes to how our hormones, brain structure, and subconscious impulses affect trading outcomes—especially in long-term strategies like the Cycle Recycle Trade, where patience and discipline are tested by human nature itself. The title, “Crossing the Red Dragon,” refers both to Dan’s physical journey across China and the metaphorical journey traders face when crossing from logic to emotion—from the rational prefrontal cortex to the ancient instincts that drive risk-taking. Inside the Episode Why trading decisions are influenced as much by biology as by strategy How hidden biases—like availability and recency—cause traders to misread success or failure Why statistically sound systems still “feel wrong” when results come unevenly The psychological tug-of-war between small, immediate rewards and larger, delayed ones How understanding the science of compounding helps traders stay disciplined through losing streaks Key Insight “Trading isn’t just logical—it’s biological. The greatest edge a trader can develop is self-awareness.” Recommended Reading Book: The Hour Between Dog and Wolf by John Coates — a fascinating look at how the body’s chemistry and brain structure affect financial decision-making. Available on Amazon. John Coates is a former Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank trader who earned his PhD at Cambridge and became a neuroscientist studying the biology of financial risk taking.  Subscribe to Wealth Building with Options on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube. For bonus episodes, trade breakdowns, and monthly AMAs, visit WealthBuildingPodcast.com and join as a paid subscriber. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0

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    Ep35 - This Is Your Brain on Trading

    Have you ever "felt" something was off in the market—before you could explain why? In early 2021, Dan noticed unusual behavior across several stocks; days later, the Archegos Capital blow-up surfaced. It wasn't clairvoyance—it was his subconscious processing patterns his conscious mind hadn't connected yet. In this episode, Dan explores how biology and psychology shape trading decisions: why fear and overconfidence sneak in even when you know the math, and how to align instinct with process so you can trade with discipline even when emotions run hot. Key Takeaways Emotion before logic: Neurons transmit electrical signals along axons that release neurotransmitters—often triggering reactions before deliberate reasoning. Your "second brain": The gut's dense neural network influences feelings that show up in trading. Bandwidth is limited: Your subconscious handles massive inputs while conscious attention is scarce; emotions act as shortcuts (heuristics). We don't "feel" probability: Humans evolved for immediate threats, not statistics—so design rules that protect you from your instincts. Filtered reality: The thalamus suppresses noise so you can focus—meaning each trader perceives a different "market." The map ≠ the territory: Past experiences create schemas that color today's decisions. Know the real opponent: Your brain can help—or sabotage—your edge. NLP as a toolkit: Regardless of debates, several NLP ideas provide useful mental models for reframing limiting beliefs. Memorable Quotes "Emotions exist to make thinking less resource-intensive." "When you're trading, your one enemy is your own brain." "A trader who's never seen a six-standard-deviation move may 'know' it can happen—but won't believe it until it does." "These shortcuts help—and they hurt." How to Apply This Tomorrow Pre-commit entry/exit/adjustment rules. Audit one recurring feeling and pair it with a counter-rule. Protect attention (no notifications; 90-minute focus blocks). Post-trade: log feeling → action → outcome to retrain tags. Review distributions so variance doesn't shock you. Subscribe & Support Join the Wealth Building with Options community for more: video extras, real trades from Dan's account, monthly AMAs, and unusual options activity alerts. Subscribe at WealthBuildingPodcast.com.     Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0 Dramatic Drum Roll dramatic drum roll.wav by ingsey101 -- https://freesound.org/s/51401/  -- License: Attribution 3.0  

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    Ep34 - Kick the Road Down the Can

    What If You Could Turn a Losing Trade Into a Winner—Without Taking the Loss? Most covered call and cash-secured put traders hit a wall when their trades go against them. The stock blows through their strike price, they're staring at a loss, and panic sets in. But what if there was a way to defer that loss, improve your odds, and keep your original credit intact? Enter the net-zero roll—the technique that separates winning traders from frustrated ones. In this episode, Dan reveals how this powerful management strategy lets you "kick the can down the road" by rolling out in time and up or down in strikes for roughly the same premium you paid to close. The result? You preserve your credit, dramatically improve your probability of success, and—most importantly—keep your psychology steady so you're not losing sleep over one bad "wheel cog." But here's the catch: your annualized return takes a hit. And that's where Dan's One-Third Rule comes in—a reality check that'll save you from disappointment and help you set realistic expectations for what wheel trading actually delivers. Coach John Kmiecik joins the conversation to share his insights on screening, technical analysis, and the mindset shifts that separate struggling traders from those who trade with confidence and ease. Why This Episode Will Change How You Think About Covered Calls and Cash-Secured Puts The truth about annualized returns: They're marketing, not reality. Discover why your actual returns will likely be about one-third of your initial calculations—and why that's still excellent. The net-zero roll explained: Learn the exact mechanics of buying back your short option and selling a later-dated, farther OTM option for approximately zero cost. It sounds like magic, but it's pure technique. Psychology meets technique: Why does this strategy work so well? Because it removes the emotional weight of "losing" on individual trades and helps you see the bigger picture of the full cycle. The One-Third Rule: Dan's back-of-the-napkin formula for setting realistic expectations. If you calculate 12% annualized, expect closer to 4%. Why? Rolls, adjustments, early exits, and the messy reality of trading. When "perfect" isn't the goal: Stop obsessing over every strike price and learn to manage early and often. Small, proactive adjustments beat expensive, late-stage scrambles every time. Your Practical Playbook When to roll: As soon as price moves through your strike. Don't hope it comes back—act immediately. How to structure the roll: Aim for net-zero or close to it. Small debits or credits across multiple "cogs" balance out over the cycle. Screening and strike selection: Use technicals to guide you, but don't overthink it. The real edge is having a management plan, not picking the perfect strike. Tracking your cycles: Log each trade within the cycle—credits, debits, days added, and new strikes—so you can see your true cycle P&L and learn from every wheel turn. What You'll Walk Away With By the end of this episode, you'll understand why experienced wheel traders don't sweat individual losses—they manage them. You'll see how the net-zero roll transforms a potential disaster into a highly probable win, and you'll learn to think in terms of complete cycles rather than isolated trades. This is the mindset shift that took Dan decades to figure out. Now you can have it in under 40 minutes. Resources Mentioned Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Subscribe/Support the show: WealthBuildingPodcast.com Free + paid tiers available Paid subscribers get: video extras, live monthly AMAs, Dan's real-time covered call and cash-secured put trades, unusual options activity alerts, and exclusive trade ideas Get More From This Community Don't miss a single episode—subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app. Want to level up your wheel trading? Consider a paid subscription for hands-on video training, real trade examples from Dan's brokerage account, monthly Q&A sessions, and actionable trade alerts. Got questions? Send them in after you subscribe, and they might be featured in the next AMA!   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep33 - Who, What and Why

    In this episode of Wealth Building with Options, Dan Passarelli dives deep into the motivations behind trading the wheel strategy—and why understanding them can make or break your results. Dan begins with a mistake he sees all too often: traders push strikes too far away from the stock price, "running and hiding" instead of sticking to their true objective—getting assigned—which undermines their entire strategy. From there, he lays out the framework of the who, what, and why of the wheel strategy: Who trades the wheel? Primarily conservative investors seeking consistent income without intensive labor. Dan personally uses it as a conservative investor 97% of the time, with only 3% reserved for risk-taking. The strategy also attracts traders looking for short-term "skate" opportunities—though Dan notes credit spreads might be better suited for that objective. What is cycling into wheel trades? Own stock → sell a call → skate and collect premium → sell another call → get assigned and sell the stock. Then sell a cash-secured put → skate → get assigned and buy the stock back → sell calls again. This creates the repeating "wheel" cycle. Why trade the wheel? Dan highlights both trade objectives (intentionally getting assigned into or out of stock) and skate objectives (capturing premium without assignment). For cash-secured puts with trade objectives, he identifies three main sub-motivations: Buy stock below current market price for long-term holding. Buy stock to begin the wheel strategy. Buy back stock from a previous covered call assignment. The Cycle Mindset Revolution A key takeaway: successful wheel trading isn't about the profitability of individual trades, but about completing profitable cycles. Dan explains how traders can recover from losses by continuing the sequence until the overall cycle closes in profit: "I sold this put at $1 and now I have to buy it back at $2.50. I'm down $1.50 but I sell another put at $1.25... It took me 3 trades to lock in 50 cents. That is a completed cycle." This mindset shift—focusing on cycles rather than one-off wins—separates successful wheel traders from those who give up too early. Professional Insights Dan also reveals how professional traders approach the wheel differently. Instead of hiding far out-of-the-money, institutional traders often sell "500, 1000, 2000 puts right at the money," showing why proper strike selection is critical when the goal is assignment. Whether you're new to the wheel or already using it, this episode will fundamentally change how you think about each trade within the larger cycle—and why patience with the process, not individual results, drives long-term profitability. By the end, you'll understand why focusing on cycles, not individual trades, is the key to wheel success. Resources & Links: Learn more about Dan and Market Taker Mentoring at MarketTaker.com Become a paid subscriber by visiting https://wealthbuildingpodcast.com   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep32 - Actual Results May Vary

    Most wheel traders obsess over single trades and miss the bigger picture. In this episode, Dan Passarelli shares the mindset shift that changed his covered call and cash-secured put trading: manage in cycles, not one-offs. Using a powerful casino/blackjack analogy, Dan reveals why even professional card counters can lose money for six months straight despite having an edge—and how "how you play" determines your actual results, not just the statistical probabilities. He then introduces the Net Zero Roll, a practical technique to transfer short-term options losses from money to time by rolling up and out, keeping the wheel moving toward profit. Through a detailed walkthrough of a real trading scenario (a May 15th, 170 call that goes against you), you'll discover how three separate trades in one cycle can deliver the same 85-cent profit you wanted from one trade—it just takes a bit longer. Dan emphasizes this was his personal epiphany that transformed his trading and inspired his upcoming book. Key Takeaways Think in cycles: A cycle is one or more trades that collectively capture profit, then you "recycle" into the next one. Most cycles will be longer than one trade—this is normal and expected. Your real commodity: It's not the option premium you collect—it's the number of trades required per cycle. Skill means keeping cycles short to compound faster. The Net Zero Roll: Roll up and out for approximately even money to transfer a loss from money to time. Instead of locking in a $1.40 loss, you get more time (May 15th becomes May 29th) and better odds (170 strike becomes 175 strike). Emotional relief: Stop thinking "I left money on the table" or feeling frustrated by single trade outcomes. Experienced cycle traders know it's not over—they have tools and more trades to complete the cycle profitably. Simple bookkeeping: Track total debits and credits across the entire cycle, not individual legs. Example: 95¢ credit - 10¢ final debit = 85¢ profit over three trades. Technical note: The Net Zero Roll (up and out) is technically called a "diagonal" spread—combining vertical (different strikes) and horizontal (different expirations) elements. What You'll Discover Why professional gamblers can lose for months despite having an edge (and what this teaches wheel traders) The exact mechanics of a Net Zero Roll with a real example: May 15th 170 call → May 29th 175 call How to change the "terms of the deal" instead of accepting losses Why shorter-term options give you more flexibility to adjust strikes The psychology behind cycle thinking vs. single-trade obsession How brokerages encourage good risk management (and why they don't charge commissions on cheap option closes) Action Steps Mindset shift first: Stop judging success by individual trades. Start thinking: "What cycle am I in, and what's my next move to complete it profitably?" Audit a recent wheel position: List each leg's debits and credits to see your total cycle performance, not just the single trade that bothered you. Practice Net Zero Roll identification: Find one current position where rolling up and out for approximately even money could improve your odds. Create a simple cycle tracker: Record the number of trades per cycle and cycle length to monitor your skill development over time. Coming Up Dan mentions the second key area for wheel success—rewiring your brain—will be covered in upcoming episodes. This psychological framework will span several shows as it's central to his new book. Resources Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) — see link in disclosure Learn more about Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Subscribe and get video extras, trade ideas, monthly AMA access, and unusual options activity alerts: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don't trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners' specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor. Attribution: Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep31 - A Well-Endowed Trader with Some Issues

    In this episode of Wealth Building with Options, host Dan Passarelli dives into one of the most powerful – and often overlooked – forces shaping trading decisions: the endowment effect. This behavioral economics concept explains why we tend to overvalue what we already own, and why that bias can hold traders and investors back from making better choices. Drawing on research from Richard Thaler and examples ranging from coffee mugs to Super Bowl tickets, Dan shows how the endowment effect plays out in real-world trading—especially when running strategies like the wheel, covered calls, and cash-secured puts. He explores how our brains are wired against discipline, why letting go of a position feels harder than it should, and how traders can use tools like the “Would I do it now?” rule to cut through bias. From Catholic confessions to Chicago hot dogs, from historical revolutions to behavioral finance studies, Dan blends humor, history, and hard-hitting trading lessons into a thought-provoking conversation that will help you rethink how you value your trades. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Why the endowment effect influences nearly every investor’s decisions. How behavioral economics challenges the assumptions of classical economics. The “Would I do it now?” rule for evaluating whether to keep or close a trade. Why rolling covered calls or puts can optimize outcomes over simply holding. How passive wheel traders differ from active wheel traders—and which approach may suit you best. Why predicting volatility is often easier (and more profitable) than predicting stock prices. Key Takeaways: The brain is wired to make us cling to losing trades, but traders can retrain their decision-making process. Anchoring decisions to specific times or rules improves discipline and consistency. The wheel strategy can be profitable as a passive system, but active adjustments often lead to better returns. Options are often overpriced—creating opportunities for traders who understand risk premiums. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep30 - Dealers, Dispersion Trading and Payment for Orderflow: Interview with Kevin “Lex” Luthringshausen

    Dan sits down with longtime market maker Kevin “Lex” Luthringshausen to demystify how options markets actually work behind the scenes. They cover dealer/market-maker behavior, why hedging is the real “edge,” how dispersion trading works, and what payment for order flow (PFOF) really is—and why it matters for retail traders. The conversation finishes with practical guidance for covered calls, cash-secured puts, and the “poor man’s covered call” (fig leaf), plus Lex’s favorite trading books and films. Key Topics What wholesalers are and how payment for order flow (PFOF) works Market makers vs. retail: why market makers hedge, not predict direction Greeks in practice: building and neutralizing delta, gamma, vega exposure Dispersion trading: baskets vs. SPX volatility, correlations, Mag-7 implications Retail edge (and limits) with implied volatility (IV vs. realized vol) Covered calls & cash-secured puts: when IV matters most The fig leaf / poor man’s covered call: benefits, risks, and skew considerations What retail traders are actually trading now (iron condors, diagonals, calendars, credit spreads) Lex’s Practical Takeaways Hedging is the business. Market makers quote both sides and hedge continuously; the “win” isn’t directional prediction but capturing edge and neutralizing risk. Retail order flow helps pricing. Small, frequent retail trades help “shape the curve,” tightening markets and often improving prices. PFOF trade-off. It helps enable low/zero commissions and tighter spreads; without it, expect higher commissions and wider markets. Use IV thoughtfully. For income strategies like covered calls and CSPs, prioritizing higher (overpriced) IV can improve premiums—but verify it’s truly overpriced for the current environment. Fig leaf caution. LEAPS are vega-sensitive; vertical and term skew can mean you’re buying higher vol and selling lower vol. Price the whole structure, not just the short call. Resources Mentioned NBBO (National Best Bid and Offer) — the best available public bid/ask across exchanges The Options Playbook by Brian Overby Classic films: Trading Places, Wall Street (and a messenger-desk trading film Lex couldn’t recall by name) Connect Learn more about host Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Subscribe on your preferred platform (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, etc.) and leave a review to help more traders find the show. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0  

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    Ep29 - The Truth Is More Profitable Than Fiction

    Options trading is all about choice—and in this episode, Dan Passarelli breaks down why those choices create real value for investors. From adjusting strikes to rolling trades, Dan dives deep into how flexibility and decision-making in the Wheel Strategy can drive long-term profitability. He also shares personal reflections about family milestones, the importance of practical education, and how trading truth (not oversimplified textbook theory) is what truly pays. What You’ll Discover in This Episode: Why options have value: The essence of choice and flexibility. Strike adjustment as a trading edge: How shorter-term options let you roll and optimize more often. Covered calls and cash-secured puts: How the Wheel revolves from one to the other. Rolling for better outcomes: Managing puts and calls to create “wiggle room” and keep trades viable. Profit sources of the Wheel: Premium harvesting vs. scalping opportunities. Why most traders oversimplify the Wheel—and what really happens in practice. Psychology of trading the Wheel: Why letting go of that “last 10 cents” is key to better results. Key Takeaways: Options are valuable because they give you choices, and each choice has value. The ability to adjust strikes more frequently can make short-term options highly advantageous. Covered calls and cash-secured puts are “synthetic twins” but require slightly different mindsets. Premiums—not scalps—are the true engine of Wheel profits. The best Wheel traders rarely let options expire; they manage proactively to optimize returns. Resources & Links: Subscribe to the Wealth Building With Options Podcast Learn more about Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring: MarketTaker.com Support the Show: Become a paid subscriber at WealthBuildingPodcast.com for access to video extras, trade alerts, and our monthly AMA. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep28 - I Never Said Most of the Things I Said

    In this episode of Wealth Building with Options, host Dan Passarelli dives deep into one of the most popular and misunderstood strategies in options trading: the Wheel Strategy. Drawing inspiration from a (possibly misattributed) Yogi Berra quote — “In theory, there’s no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is” — Dan explores how the wheel works in real life, why some traders fail with it, and how to use it as a disciplined, systematic approach to grow wealth. Joining Dan is frequent guest and fellow coach John Kmiecik, who shares his insights on both the mechanics and the psychology behind the wheel. Together, they unpack the nuances that make this strategy both powerful and deceptively simple. What Dan Reveals in This Episode The Wheel Explained: How cash-secured puts and covered calls form a repeating system to generate consistent premiums. Theory vs. Practice: Why data shows the wheel can beat the market, but traders still fail without methodology and discipline. Pin Risk & Assignment Nuances: Unlikely but important scenarios every wheel trader should understand. Premium vs. Stock Scalping: Which matters more when trading the wheel, and how premiums can smooth out “wrong” outcomes. Trader Psychology: Why relaxation, patience, and mindset shift from “trader” to “investor” are essential for success. Practical Tips: From good-till-cancel buyback orders to managing emotions and avoiding overtrading. Key Quotes “The wheel is an if-then series of steps traded cyclically, growing wealth faster than buy-and-hold.” – Dan Passarelli “Relax. You’re absolutely going to love this strategy. I can stake my life on it.” – John Kmiecik Support the Show Help grow the Wealth Building with Options community! Subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave a review to help other traders find the show. Consider a paid subscription for exclusive video extras, monthly AMAs, unusual options activity alerts, and Dan’s real covered call and cash-secured put trades. Until next time—invest excellently. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep27 - Frickin’ Hulu

    In this episode of Wealth Building with Options, Dan Passarelli opens with a hilarious rant about Hulu's "double dipping" business model—charging subscribers AND showing ads—which becomes the perfect metaphor for today's topic: covered strangles and covered straddles. These underused strategies allow options traders to "double dip" by collecting premium from both calls and puts, creating excellent opportunities for wealth builders willing to embrace a more sophisticated approach. Key Takeaways: The Double-Dip Concept Just like Hulu gets paid by subscribers AND advertisers, covered strangles let you collect premium from both selling calls and selling puts You're getting two income streams from a single underlying position, though only one option can be assigned Dan shares a real trade he placed What is a Covered Strangle? A 3-part position: Own 100 shares + sell an out-of-the-money call + sell an out-of-the-money cash-secured put Perfect for long-term value investors: "Buy more if the stock goes lower, sell if it goes higher" Warning: You risk doubling your position (200 shares) if assigned on the put Real-World Example: American Eagle Outfitters (AEO) Stock at $10.96, sold $11 calls for $1.80, sold $9 puts for $1.00 Total premium collected: $2.80 (over 25% of stock price!) Massive profit zone: Stock can trade anywhere from $8.58 to $13.80 and you still win That's nearly a 50% range where the strategy is profitable Why These Strategies Work Theta is King: Time decay works in your favor on both options Range-Bound Stocks: Perfect for "boring, sideways" stocks that stay in wide ranges Long-Term Approach: Often uses LEAPS (6+ months) for maximum time premium collection Covered Strangle vs. Covered Straddle Strangle: Different strikes (out-of-the-money call and put) - more conservative Straddle: Same strike price - more aggressive, always has one option in-the-money Find out what Dan prefers for flexibility and risk management The "Set It and Forget It" Management Style The Thanksgiving Turkey Approach: Check monthly, not daily - let theta do the work Immediate GTC Orders: As soon as filled, Dan places good-til-cancelled orders to buy back  Only Trade on Fundamentals: Don't make changes based on mood - only for significant company news Advanced Techniques Split-Time Strangles: Different expiration dates for calls and puts when legging into positions Ratio Variations: Dan's current trade uses 20 puts vs. 1 call for enhanced income generation Liquidity Requirements: Tight bid/ask spreads essential - this strategy doesn't work with wide markets Critical Success Factors: When to Use This Strategy You genuinely want to own more shares if the stock drops You're comfortable selling your shares if the stock rises significantly The stock has strong support levels and reasonable valuation Options have tight bid/ask spreads and good liquidity Risk Management Understand you're adding risk, not truly "covering" it (Dan calls the name misleading) Be prepared for potential assignment on either side Only use on stocks you'd be happy to double down on Avoid if you think the stock might "explode" higher Why Dan Loves This Strategy "Perfect for value investors" - aligns buying and selling with valuation Excellent for takeover candidates with strong support levels Can generate 25%+ returns in sideways markets Works especially well on lower-priced stocks due to volatility skew The Bottom Line Covered strangles and straddles aren't everyday strategies, but when market conditions align, they can be "freaking amazing." The key is patience, proper stock selection, and treating them like long-term investments rather than short-term trades. Dan's Reality Check: "This is a very, very niche strategy... but for the right set of circumstances, gosh man, this can be really, really amazing." Exclusive Content for Subscribers Paid subscribers get video walk-throughs of P&L diagrams for these complex strategies - essential for visualizing how these trades work. As Dan notes, "It's an audio-only podcast, so that's really the only way I can show you how to do this." Join the Community Help grow the wealth-building community by: Subscribing on your favorite podcast platform Leaving a review to help others discover the show Supporting with a paid subscription at WealthBuildingPodcast.com for exclusive video content, trade alerts, and monthly live Q&A sessions Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep 26 - Interview with Options Thought Leader, Andrew Lowenthal

    A candid conversation with one of the options industry’s most influential figures, tracing the explosive growth of the options market, the evolution of strategies like covered calls and cash-secured puts, and what’s ahead for global adoption. Key Takeaways From 1983 to 2025: Andy shares how a fractions test in the Chicago Board of Trade building launched his 40-year career with CBOE Global Markets. Explosive Growth: The options industry has grown from 10M to 55M contracts traded daily in under a decade—an incredible expansion in both volume and notional value. Flex Options Uncovered: Andy gives a deep dive into Flex Options, their origin, how they provide customizable hedging, and why they’re now essential for ETFs and institutional strategies. The Power of Education: Andy reflects on how CBOE’s early commitment to education—like the Options Institute—laid the foundation for modern retail adoption. Global Footprint: Andy helped launch and develop options markets around the world—from Kuala Lumpur and Prague to London and Singapore. Retail’s Rising Role: Once just 1-2% of all accounts, retail options trading has surged thanks to technology, accessibility, and self-directed broker platforms. Covered Calls & Cash-Secured Puts: Asset managers and advisors increasingly use these foundational strategies, not just for yield, but for smarter portfolio construction. Benchmarks & Innovation: Dan and Andy discuss CBOE's development of benchmark indexes like BXM and PUT, which paved the way for modern ETF strategies and institutional replication. New Frontiers: Andy shares his work with Adaptive Financial—a fintech platform that uses software to analyze portfolios and generate index option-based trades. Trading for Fun: In retirement, Andy has turned to more personal trading, refining his exit strategy and embracing the learning curve of options firsthand. Quotes to Remember “Options are the one tool that lets you express your market view—up, down, sideways, or on timing—however you see fit.” — Andy Lowenthal “The exit determines if you make money. Getting into the trade is the easy part.” — Dan Passarelli Topics Covered Early trading floor culture and open outcry The rise of hybrid and electronic systems International exchange development (Prague, Malaysia, Brazil, more) The explosion in options education and retail access Flex options and ETF adoption Covered calls, cash-secured puts, and benchmark indexes Software-driven portfolio optimization with index options Exits, edge, and trading as a lifelong skill Featured Mentions CBOE Global Markets Adaptive Financial Solutions Wilson Innovators Options Institute Risk Management Conference (CBOE) Benchmark Indexes: BXM, PUT Flex Options and Buffer ETFs Subscribe & Support Enjoying the podcast? Help support the show and access exclusive content: Video walk-throughs of real trades Subscriber-only stock breakdowns Covered call & cash-secured put trades from Dan’s own account Live monthly Ask-Me-Anything webinars Join here: wealthbuildingpodcast.com Thanks to Our Paid Subscribers A special shoutout to: Sean K, Steve D, Nanan, Glen K, Jane (our newest!), Alex H, Bill H, VJ, Paul P, Myron, Mark, Spencer, John D, Douglas B, Ed B, Christopher L, Deborah, and Eric G.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0  

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    Ep25 - Party Like A Pachyderm

    In this episode, Dan explores the strategic rationale behind trading long-term buy-writes, even when they offer lower theta compared to shorter-term options. While conventional wisdom might suggest optimizing for higher theta, Dan lays out a compelling case for why going long may actually lead to more consistent, reliable results—especially when thinking like an investor rather than a trader. What You’ll Learn Short-Term vs. Long-Term Buy-Writes: How these similar-looking strategies differ substantially in execution and outcome. Why Theta Isn’t Everything: Dan explains why he sometimes sacrifices short-term theta to gain longer-term predictability and more investor-style returns. The Tomato vs. Tomatillo Analogy: A lighthearted but powerful metaphor showing how two strategies that look the same can behave very differently. The Case Study: AEO (American Eagle Outfitters): A real-life example of a long-term buy-write trade: Entry at $10.96 Selling Jan 2026 $11 calls for $1.80 Breakeven: $9.16 Static return: 16.4% If-called return: 16.8% Annualized return: 26.2% Understanding Volatility Over Time: Why longer-term predictions can be more reliable due to how volatility “smooths out” over time. Framing Buy-Writes Like Interest-Bearing Assets: Dan explains how viewing these positions like CDs or bonds (despite their risk) helps him stay grounded as a long-term investor. The Role of Interest Rates in Longer-Term Options: How rising interest rates affect call pricing and open up opportunities to sell higher strikes at compelling premiums. Key Takeaways Long-term buy-writes may offer lower theta, but they provide better downside protection, reduced maintenance, and can function more like an investment than a trade. Annualized return is a helpful—but sometimes misleading—lens. Use it to evaluate risk-adjusted opportunity but avoid relying on it to boost ego. Selling slightly higher strikes in today’s interest rate environment can lead to “best of both worlds” scenarios with solid premium and upside potential. Mentioned In This Episode Ticker: AEO – American Eagle Outfitters Concepts: Theta, Volatility Cone, Annualized Return, Interest Rates & Rho, Covered Calls, LEAPS Tool: Thinkorswim Support the Show Become a premium subscriber on Substack: wealthbuildingwithoptions.substack.com Gain access to: Video podcasts Trade rationales from Dan’s real account Monthly Ask Me Anything sessions Extra premium content Shout-Outs Special thanks to supporters including Alex H., Bill H., Paul P., Sean K., Steve D., Myron, Glen K., Spencer, and many others. Your backing keeps the show running and the content flowing. Next Episode Preview Dan welcomes a special guest to talk about a powerful addition to the buy-write strategy discussed today. Don't miss Episode 26! Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep24 - Commitment Issues

    "There's the kind of stock you date, and the kind of stock you marry." In this episode of Wealth Building With Options, Dan explores what it means to have "commitment issues"—not in relationships, but in trading. Sometimes you don't want to marry a stock for life. You just want to take it for a profitable spin while managing your risk. That's where short-term buy-writes shine. What You'll Learn: The psychology behind "dating" vs. "marrying" stocks—and why everything is impermanent When short-term buy-writes outperform buy-and-hold strategies How to evaluate opportunities when you like the fundamentals but don't fully trust the stock The "money lying in the corner" approach—waiting for exceptional premium opportunities Why 3 weeks to 2 months is the sweet spot for short-term buy-writes Three exit strategies at expiration: roll, close, or accept assignment The three-way analysis method: always consider multiple approaches to any opportunity Real Trade Breakdown: The Perfect Setup: Dan walks through a $30 stock example where you can capture a 5% out-of-the-money call for 3% premium—creating potential 8% monthly returns (96% annualized when opportunities align). Okta (OTA) Case Study: How Dan rolled from a covered call assignment at $98 into cash-secured puts at $96, then down to $95 strikes, capturing $2.15 in additional premium while positioning for better entry points. Rigetti (RGTI) Quantum Play: A speculative quantum computing stock offering 10%+ monthly premiums—demonstrating how to play the "sweet spot" of risky stocks using short-term strategies. Key Insights: Log-normal distribution reality: Most individual stocks actually lose money over time (despite the S&P 500's 10% annual average) because index committees actively select winners Annualized returns truth: While 8% monthly sounds like 96% annually, you can't always replicate perfect setups—but the math still provides valuable baseline comparisons against risk-free rates Gap risk management: Why Dan prefers closing entire positions on expiration day rather than letting calls expire Value vs. speculation balance: How to capture meaningful premiums on stocks with mixed fundamentals The Bottom Line: Short-term buy-writes let you profit from stocks you like but don't fully trust, capturing meaningful premiums while maintaining clear exit strategies. Perfect for traders who prefer calculated risks over permanent commitments—and smart enough to know that in trading, as in life, everything is temporary. Support the Show: Love the podcast? Share it with a friend, leave a review, and consider a paid subscription on Substack (https://wealthbuildingwithoptions.substack.com) to access bonus episodes, detailed trade breakdowns, and monthly AMAs. Subscribe now so you don't miss Episode 25—another masterclass in confident, systematic trading is coming your way. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep23 - The Day I Bit The Nurse

    In this episode, Dan shares a hilarious childhood story (yes, he did bite a nurse) and takes a nostalgic look at Highlights magazine to set up a powerful trading lesson about spotting subtle—but meaningful—differences between two nearly identical options strategies: the buy-write and the cash-secured put. Both strategies aim to acquire stock and generate income, and from a risk-reward standpoint, they appear almost interchangeable. But when you look closely—like Gallant and Goofus in Highlights—you’ll find key differences that can impact commissions, dividends, interest, mindset, and how you manage risk. What You’ll Learn in This Episode A humorous childhood story that leads to a serious insight about how traders interpret similar setups differently The key mechanical difference between a covered call and a buy-write How a buy-write compares to a cash-secured put in terms of: Maximum profit Break-even price Commissions Option Greeks (Delta, Vega, Theta) Dividends and interest impact Mental framing and trade psychology Why buy-writes often look better on paper—but might not always be the better choice How your broker's assignment and commission policies could tilt the scales Why dividend-paying stocks may favor buy-writes over cash-secured puts The one question to ask yourself that might matter more than the math: How do I think about this trade? Key Takeaways A buy-write = Buy stock + Sell call (same time, same trade ticket) A cash-secured put = Sell put with cash reserved to buy shares if assigned Both trades are synthetically similar—but taxes, dividends, mindset, and fees can make a meaningful difference The mental framing of a trade might be the most important variable of all Sometimes, “spotting the difference” is the key to making the right strategic decision Subscribe & Support Enjoy the show? Share it with a fellow investor Subscribe to get future episodes on short-term vs. long-term buy-writes Want deeper dives and trade breakdowns? Support the show with a paid Substack subscription and you'll also get access to the video extras: wealthbuildingwithoptions.substack.com Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep22 - "Hey Butthole"

    Dan Passarelli kicks off this episode with a wild story from the trading floor—complete with Hulk-like rage and a colorful nickname—and uses it to dive deep into one of the most powerful and misunderstood ideas in options trading: synthetic positions. This episode explores how synthetics reveal the truth about covered calls and cash-secured puts—that they are, in fact, two sides of the same coin. Dan unpacks the logic behind synthetics, the Greeks that drive them, and why understanding this can make you a sharper, more strategic investor. In This Episode: The infamous “Hey Butthole” trading floor story—and what it teaches about real-world trading Why a trader’s “172” call position wasn’t an error—it was a lesson in synthetics The delta-neutral mindset of market makers and how it unlocks synthetic thinking Covered calls vs. cash-secured puts: Why they’re synthetically identical (and when they’re not) Understanding put-call parity and its real-world implications The Greeks of synthetics: Delta, Theta, and the messy role of interest and early exercise How professional traders use synthetic stock, conversions, reversals, and synthetic straddles When a put and a call add up to more than 100 delta—and what that means How synthetics help you manage vertical spreads, identify arbitrage, and reduce capital requirements Why thinking in terms of synthetics leads to smarter, more flexible trading decisions Why It Matters: Understanding synthetics isn’t just academic—it’s foundational. If you truly grasp this concept, you’ll: Trade covered calls and cash-secured puts with more confidence Identify hidden equivalencies across strategies Improve capital efficiency and decision-making Spot arbitrage and mispricing opportunities others miss Quote of the Episode: “If I own 100 shares and I’m short one call, that’s a covered call. If I’m short a put at the same strike—guess what? At expiration, they behave exactly the same.” Don’t Miss: Next episode, Dan dives into buy-writes and how to use them effectively in today’s market conditions. Make sure you subscribe so you’re the first to know when it drops. Resources & Links: Trading Option Greeks – by Dan Passarelli Join the community at WealthBuildingWithOptions.Substack.com for bonus episodes, trade breakdowns, and monthly AMAs Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep21-The Edge of Reason: And the Reason for Edge

    In this episode of Wealth Building with Options, host Dan Passarelli explores one of the most powerful, yet often overlooked, concepts in successful trading: edge. Whether you're seeking an advantage like a card counter at the blackjack table or building consistency through disciplined investing, edge—the measurable statistical advantage—is what separates consistent winners from the rest. What You'll Learn in This Episode: What edge really means in trading and how even a small edge can compound into powerful long-term results The three primary sources of edge every options investor needs to understand: Fundamental analysis (PE ratio, price-to-book, operating yield, current ratio) Technical analysis (support, resistance, moving averages, volume) Volatility analysis (historical vs. implied volatility, vertical skew, term structure) How smart investors use support and resistance levels to improve strike selection and time their trades more effectively Why volatility pricing can create opportunity if you know how to spot overpriced or underpriced options A practical framework for setting strike prices and choosing expirations for covered calls and cash-secured puts Dan also shares stories from the trading floor and insights from professional mentors, blending theory with real-world examples in a way that brings clarity to complex topics. Resources Mentioned: The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham Buffettology by Mary Buffett How to Read a Financial Report by John and Tage Tracy Final Thoughts: Even a 1–2% edge can significantly improve your trading outcomes—especially when compounded over time. Dan explains how mastering these analytical tools can help you trade more confidently and profitably, while avoiding common mistakes. Subscribe to the show to catch Episode 22, where Dan dives deep into buy-writes and how to maximize capital efficiency using this foundational strategy. To support the show and get access to exclusive episodes, trade breakdowns, and AMAs, visit: wealthbuildingwithoptions.substack.com To learn more about Dan Passarelli and the Market Taker Mentoring community, visit MarketTaker.com Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep20 - Square, Level and All Effed Up

    Description: You wouldn’t build a garden without a plan (or at least you shouldn’t). And you sure as heck shouldn’t place a covered call or cash-secured put without knowing exactly why you’re doing it.  In this episode, Dan shares a hilariously frustrating story about building a backyard garden with his daughter — and how forgetting one small measurement led to a big headache. Then he breaks down how that same mistake shows up in options trading when traders skip the fundamentals and just “wing it.” Covered calls and cash-secured puts might seem simple — but if you’re not following this checklist, you’re likely doing it wrong. This episode gives you the must-follow framework to avoid costly errors and start trading with clarity and confidence. You’ll Learn: The only two valid reasons to place a covered call or CSP — and why anything else is a red flag Why stocks under $30 are usually a waste of time for income strategies What the “10% Rule” is — and how it instantly tells you if your option is tradable How to use theta and “aggregate theta” to maximize your returns over time The rookie mistake traders make by ignoring volatility events like earnings (and how to avoid it) Key Insight: “You don’t get to think outside the box until you know what’s inside it.” Don’t Miss: Dan’s “Nail the Trade” checklist — the same system he’s been refining for 8+ years Why implied volatility isn’t always make-or-break — and when it is How to line up your trade with your actual investing plan, not just what “looks good” Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep19- The Triple Lindy and Making a Big Splash

    In this episode of Wealth Building with Options, Dan dives deep into the three critical criteria for selecting the best strike and expiration when selling cash-secured puts: Support levels Theta (both straight and aggregate) Implied volatility and skew Dan breaks down the logic behind what makes these factors so valuable—especially for investors who want to either generate premium or strategically acquire stock. He shares some "campfire knowledge" and real-world tactics that go far beyond theory and into practical application. Dan is joined by John Kmiecik, who shares how he guides students to find optimal support levels using multiple timeframes, how he filters out the chart “noise,” and what technical indicators (like RSI and moving averages) may or may not be worth your time. Whether you're trying to invest more confidently or fine-tune your entry points, this episode will give you a sharper lens for executing cash-secured put strategies like a pro. What You’ll Learn Why support lines are crucial for choosing put strikes—and how to spot them using multiple timeframes The difference between straight theta and aggregate theta—and how both affect decision-making How to evaluate weekend theta and avoid the trap of holding options through unnecessary decay Why volatility skew (vertical and horizontal) matters when selecting expirations and strikes How to think in terms of 7-day decay periods to uncover the best value across different expirations Why trading doesn’t have to be overcomplicated—and how to eliminate the noise from your charts Memorable Quotes “Some of this is campfire knowledge... but a lot of it is what I’ve learned from trading for decades.” — Dan Passarelli “Support and resistance have made it through thick and thin with me. I’ve divorced a lot of technical indicators, but I’m still married to support.” — John Kmiecik “It’s not just about the flat theta number—it’s about knowing what that number really means over time.” — John Kmiecik Resources & Extras Video Extra: Visual breakdown of straight vs. aggregate theta (available to premium subscribers) Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (Options Disclosure Document) Subscribe for bonus content at wealthbuildingwithoptions.substack.com Subscribe & Share Don’t miss future episodes—subscribe on your favorite podcast app. And if you found this episode helpful, share it with a fellow investor. The more we learn together, the more we grow.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep18 - Chewing the Fat About Meat and Tasty Chicken Feet

    In this episode, Dan Passarelli dives deep into the strategy that many investors think they understand — but often get wrong: cash-secured puts. While most investors learn to sell puts early in their options journey, few truly master the nuance and mindset that separate solid trades from subtle mistakes. Dan unpacks the six core guidelines for executing high-quality CSPs, shares his personal evolution from skeptic to strategist, and reveals how most investors fall into the “time bomb strategy” trap — and how to avoid it. But that’s not all… He also takes us on a culinary detour through Icelandic puffin, Chinese chicken feet, and even donkey meat. It’s all part of the journey toward investing maturity — and yes, maybe building some collagen while we're at it. Later, frequent guest and coach John Kmiecik joins the conversation to challenge common myths, like the "sweet spot" of the 30 delta put and why most investors choose strikes that are too conservative — even when they say they want to be assigned. In This Episode: Why cash-secured puts aren’t as “simple” as they seem The six guidelines that will instantly improve your CSP trades Why objective is everything: Are you skating or trading? How investors sabotage themselves with backtesting myths The real risk of selling far OTM puts (it’s not what you think) How fundamentals like book value and tangible book value shape CSP decisions Why most new investors don’t really know if they want to be assigned A sneak peek into John’s technical approach for CSPs — coming in Episode 19 Key Insight: “Cash-secured puts are the meat and potatoes of options trading — but to get the flavor right, you need more than just the recipe. You need the right mindset, the right tools, and the right objectives.” Subscribe & Support: Like what you’re hearing? Help grow the Wealth Building with Options community: Share the show with investors who want more confidence and control in their strategy. Subscribe on your favorite podcast app so you never miss an episode. Support the podcast by joining Dan’s Substack — get video extras, trade breakdowns, and exclusive AMA access. Resources: Learn more about your host at MarketTaker.com Read: The Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options PDF Next Time: Join us for Episode 19 where John returns to dig into technical analysis for cash-secured puts — and how it fits into a full-spectrum edge-based strategy.   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep 17- Seasonality, Cycles & the Calendar Edge with Jeffrey Hirsch Editor-in-Chief of the Stock Trader's Almanac

    Dan Passarelli is joined by Jeffrey Hirsch, editor-in-chief of the Stock Trader’s Almanac, to talk seasonality, market cycles, and the powerful edge of timing your trades around historical patterns. From family legacy to tactical trade execution, Jeff breaks down how decades of research—plus some good old-fashioned intuition—can give traders a powerful boost. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why "Buy in October and get your portfolio sober" might be better advice than “Sell in May and go away” The most reliable fundamental metric for selecting value stocks How Jeff’s family legacy shaped the Stock Trader’s Almanac—and how he came to embrace it The surprising consistency of intraday trading patterns in a high-frequency world Using seasonality with options: When to sell puts and calls for maximum edge The power of the “best six months” and how to trade them with covered calls Seasonal volatility trends—especially around August through October Insights into election year cycles and how political shifts affect markets A personal side of Jeff Hirsch: music, Broadway, and producing a musical inspired by The Elephant Man Featured Guest: Jeffrey Hirsch Editor-in-Chief, Stock Trader’s Almanac Market historian, strategist, and student of behavioral finance Resources Mentioned: Stock Trader’s Almanac Learn more about Dan Passarelli and Market Taker Mentoring at MarketTaker.com Subscribe & Share: If you found this episode valuable, help us grow the Wealth Building With Options community: Subscribe on your favorite podcast app Share with a fellow trader Leave us a 5-star review to let others know this show helps real investors get real results   Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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    Ep16 - OG CC Setups (part II)

    Welcome back to Wealth Building with Options! In this episode, we’re diving deep into a trader's secret weapon: the Trade Objective of the covered call strategy — specifically, using covered calls to strategically exit a stock position. If you’ve ever wondered: How do I get the most out of a stock I already own? What role does theta really play in my premium income? How do I avoid leaving money on the table — or getting assigned too early? …this episode is for you. Dan Passarelli breaks down the nuances of “trading out of a stock you own” through smart strike selection, theta analysis, and volatility evaluation — and shares how to do it with confidence, precision, and better returns. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why traders should treat their trading like a real business — not a side hustle The difference between the Skate Objective and the Trade Objective in covered calls How theta, volatility, and time to expiration impact the effectiveness of your trade The concept of aggregate theta and how to use it to compare expirations for maximum premium collection Why tight bid/ask spreads and avoiding earnings dates are critical to your setup The pros and cons of selling calls on stocks trading near all-time highs How to incorporate both technical resistance and dividend timing into your decision-making Special Guest: John Kmiecik Dan is joined by trader and educator John Kmiecik, who shares his practical perspective on using theta and premium analysis to fine-tune covered call trades. They dig into real examples, including John’s experience with Comcast shares, and discuss how sometimes the best trade is the one you don’t make. Listener Challenge: Think about a stock you own that you’d consider selling at a higher price. Would a covered call help you exit at that level while collecting cash along the way? What would make it worth it — and what wouldn’t? Resources & Mentions: Dan's Substack – https://wealthbuildingwithoptions.substack.com for video extras, trade breakdowns, and AMA access Episode 10 with Dr. Russell Rhoads  Episode 13 with Steven Sears Subscribe now so you don’t miss Episode 17, featuring a very special guest and even more ways to take your option trading to the next level. Ready to treat your trading like a business? This is where you start. Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors. Prior to buying or selling an option, investors must read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options (ODD) which can be found at https://www.theocc.com/company-information/documents-and-archives/options-disclosure-document Don’t trade with money you are not prepared to lose. Anything discussed on this show is intended to be generalized information and not intended to be a recommendation to buy or sell any security. The host and guests are not familiar with listeners’ specific situations. For trading information relevant to your specific needs, speak with a licensed broker or advisor.   Trumpet Trumpet Fanfare by bevibeldesign -- https://freesound.org/s/350428/ -- License: Creative Commons 0 Wah Wah Wah Wah wah trumpet failed joke punch line.wav by Doctor_Jekyll -- https://freesound.org/s/240195/ -- License: Attribution 4.0

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Welcome to the Wealth Building With Options Podcast with Dan Passarelli. This podcast is dedicated to making you a calm, consistent and confident options trader. Inside each episode, Passarelli, an options industry veteran, helps you avoid the common mistakes, pitfalls and misconceptions about options trading as a consistent wealth building activity. You will discover actionable strategies to build wealth using assets you may already own. With a primary focus on the traditional “Wheel Strategy,” Passarelli taps his 30+ years as a market maker on the Cboe floor and options educator for investment firms, traders and international governments to make the process simple, straightforward and effective. As a subscriber to the Wealth Building With Options Podcast you will gain the valuable insights only an experienced trader and educator can provide. You’ll discover the keys to making covered calls and cash-secured puts work for you as a consistent wealth building activity. Whether you are in

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