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We are hanging on by a thread this end of summer — Sam takes a Coney Island trip that turns into a full meltdown about how stay-at-home moms are supposed to get anything done with zero uninterrupted minutes, and Lucy relates hard from the working-mom side. We dig into "code switching" between mom mode and work mode, why side hustles feel nearly impossible without a full-time partner in it, and the invisible mental load of teacher assignments, group texts, and dinner fails nobody warned us about. Then Lucy drops her big news: she's officially the new Chief Marketing Officer at Hormbles Chormbles. We talk about the leap, the nerves, and why "hard doesn't mean bad." Plus: Hoosier football szn, Sam's US Open plans, and the great Coney Island vs. state fair debate.Email us at [email protected]

Dr. Sarah Bren, clinical psychologist and host of Securely Attached, joins us to break down what secure attachment actually means (and debunk some of the myths floating around Instagram). We get into why kids act out more with their parents than anyone else, what's really happening in the brain during separation anxiety and back-to-school transitions, and the science behind "restraint collapse" — the after-school meltdown so many of us deal with. Plus: how to tell the difference between normal developmental stress and something deeper, and how to refill your kid's emotional tank (and your own) when everyone's running on empty.Find Dr. Sarah Brenhttps://drsarahbren.com/Instagram @drsarahbrenEmail us at [email protected]

This one's a real-time catch-up episode (no outside guest), covering back-to-school transitions, Sam's Florida trip, Isla's sleepaway camp send-off (lice included), and Lucy's state fair chaos.Sam and Lucy are back from a whirlwind end of summer — Sam's fresh off a Florida beach trip and a kid-free weekend with Kyle, while Lucy is three weeks into the school year grind and still recovering from an ill-advised espresso martini. They catch up on the chaos of morning drop-offs, the never-ending backpack debate, and why New York and suburban school cutoffs are wildly different. Then Sam gives the full sleepaway camp report on Isla — the pride, the growth, and yes, the lice — while Lucy shares her family's disastrous-but-joyful trip to the state fair (bee sting included). A real, unfiltered check-in as summer winds down and school ramps up.Email us at [email protected] us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This week on We'll Sleep When We're Dead, we sit down with Denise Woodard — founder and CEO of Partake Foods, the allergy-friendly snack brand you'll find in grocery stores nationwide. Denise spent a decade at Coca-Cola working on brands like Honest Tea before her daughter Vivian's food allergy diagnosis pushed her to leave corporate America and start Partake Foods from her apartment (she got an eviction notice over the shipping boxes).We talk about what it's really like managing food allergies at school and birthday parties, the exhausting early days of startup life while working full-time and raising a toddler, and why she gave her longtime nanny equity in the business. Denise also shares her honest take on work-life balance as a founder and mom, her non-negotiables for staying sane, and the Partake product — allergen-friendly graham crackers — that almost never made it to shelves.If you're a mom thinking about starting a business, navigating food allergies with your kids, or just need proof that it's never too late to build something of your own, this episode is for you.In this episode: • Denise Woodard's journey from Coca-Cola to founding Partake Foods • Managing food allergies in young kids: school, birthday parties, and building confidence • Startup life as a mom: sacrifice, burnout, and asking for help • Why she gave her nanny equity in Partake Foods • Advice for moms considering entrepreneurship • Rapid fire: non-negotiables, favorite Partake product, and weeknight dinnersFind Partake foods @partakefoods and https://partakefoods.com/Email us at [email protected] Partake Foods | Food Allergy Mom | Female Founder | Startup Story | Working Mom

We're celebrating one year of We'll Sleep When We're Dead the only way we know how — crammed in one hotel bed in NYC, mic passed back and forth, recovering from a 10-mile walk and a Broadway show we knew nothing about going in.This one's a grab bag: the real math behind pulling off a kid-free weekend (spoiler: it took an au pair, two camps, and a babysitter), why texting your co-host can feel a lot like texting your husband, and the sleepaway camp FaceTime that turned Sam into a notebook-style sobbing mess — in the best way.Plus, we're debuting Rate My Week — mom guilt, sleep, marriage, and self-care, scored out of 10 and fully unfiltered — and naming the guests we're dying to book next (dermatologist, RD, pediatrician, and yes, a plastic surgeon).If you've ever needed permission to take the girls' trip, this is it.Know someone who fits the guest wishlist? Email us: [email protected]

Meghann Featherstun (Featherstone Nutrition, sports dietitian, 3x NYC Marathon finisher) joins us to talk fueling — and it's not just for marathoners. We get into why most women are chronically underfueling and don't realize it, the carb-shame we all grew up with, why protein matters more as you age, and how to actually calculate your sodium needs if you're a heavy sweater. Plus: her 4:30am routine, eating graham crackers in bed, and why London is the most fun marathon on earth. If you've ever hit a wall on a run (or just felt "hangry" and didn't connect the dots), this one's for you.Find Meghann at https://www.featherstonenutrition.com/Follow Meghann on Instagram @featherstonenutritionEmail us at [email protected] us at @wswwdpodWatch us on youtube @WSWWD

Motherhood is not for the weak, and this week proves it. Stay-at-home mom Sam survives a lice outbreak at the school bus stop, a poison ivy scare, and a frantic 6:30am sleepaway camp packing disaster — all in one week. Working mom Lucy reacts in real time (mostly gagging) as Sam shares what actually happens when lice treatment, camp packing lists, and parenting anxiety collide during summer break. If you've ever dealt with head lice in kids, sleepaway camp prep, or just the mental load of motherhood in the summer, this episode is your permission slip to laugh instead of cry. Real talk on stay-at-home mom life, working mom life, and the parts of motherhood nobody prepares you for.This episode is brought to you by Hormbles Chormbles⁠⁠⁠ https://hormbles.com/⁠ ⁠⁠Follow on instagram @hormblesFind us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Meg DeFeo spent a decade at J.Crew and Madewell before becoming a stay-at-home mom of two — and built the "All The Moments" Instagram community around the idea that getting dressed every day can change everything. In this episode, Meg opens up about leaving corporate fashion, the mental load that pushed her to build a tool for moms, and how Atomic Habits reshaped her mornings. We talk working mom vs. stay-at-home mom transitions, the guilt around spending time (and money) on yourself, capsule wardrobe basics every mom needs, and why she thinks being a SAHM is the hardest job there is. Plus: our rapid-fire on the best jeans, the tuck debate, and whether jean shorts are really "out."Topics: stay-at-home mom vs working mom, mom style and fashion, capsule wardrobe basics, mental load of motherhood, Atomic Habits, postpartum body image, mom guilt, self-care for moms, J.Crew and Madewell, building an Instagram community as a momThis episode is brought to you by Hormbles Chormbles⁠⁠https://hormbles.com/ ⁠⁠Follow on instagram @hormblesFind Meg on Instagram @all_themoments OR https://allthemoments.co/

You've seen the post: "I only have 18 summers left with my kids, so I'm making every one count." Sam and Lucy are calling BS. This week they get into the guilt-trippy side of summer content — the curated Instagram stories versus the actual meltdown at the splash pad an hour earlier — and why the "limited summers" panic hits different depending on whether you're home with your kids full-time or clocking in from a desk. They also dig into why so much of what gets posted online is really just someone's insecurity in disguise, the mental load of summer camp logistics gone wrong, and the case for a "90s summer" with less curation and more water balloons.Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠This episode is brought to you by Hormbles Chormbles⁠https://hormbles.com/ ⁠Follow on instagram @hormbles

Why do so many postpartum moms get told their labs are "normal" when they feel anything but? Nurse practitioner and Postpartum Care USA founder Stacia Scott joins us to break down the real story behind postpartum fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, and weight struggles — and it almost always traces back to one overlooked organ: the thyroid. Stacia walks through a live read of Sam's actual lab work, explaining why standard reference ranges miss dysfunction that's already brewing, what a full thyroid panel should include (most doctors only order one of six necessary markers), and why vitamin D, B12, and blood sugar matter more than you think. We also talk about the postpartum lab gap in women's healthcare, why moms are taught everything about pregnancy and nothing about recovery, and Stacia opens up about her son Cody's battle with stage 4 neuroblastoma and how it's reshaped how she cares for families. A must-listen for any mom who's been told "everything looks fine" and known deep down that it isn't.This episode is brought to you by Hormbles Chormbleshttps://hormbles.com/ Follow on instagram @hormblesFind Stacia at https://ppcareusa.com Postpartum Care USAand instagram @postpartumcare_usaFind us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The content of this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. It should not be used to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease, and is not a substitute for professional medical care. Always consult your own physician or qualified healthcare provider before making changes to your health, medications, or treatment plan. The views and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or We'll Sleep When We're Dead. Lab reference ranges and recommendations mentioned are for general education and may not apply to your individual health situation."

Is the grass really greener on the other side — or does every mom just have a different flavor of chaos? This week, Sam (stay-at-home mom, Brooklyn) and Lucy (working mom, suburbs) get into an honest, no-filter conversation about flexibility, free time, and the invisible load that never makes it onto anyone's calendar. Lucy spent her PTO day getting her hair done, selling things on Facebook Marketplace, and squeezing in a podcast recording — and it sparked a bigger question: do stay-at-home moms actually have more freedom, or is that just a myth? Sam breaks down why zero-to-five years looks nothing like the "flexible schedule" people imagine, and why even now, with kids in school, her Mondays are the only day she can actually breathe. They also talk about the dream scenario (the 3-day work week, the side hustle that might not be worth it) and why the real answer might just be: every season has its trade-offs.If you've ever envied another mom's schedule — or tried to explain yours to someone who doesn't get it — this one's for you.Email us at [email protected] us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Emily is the founder and CEO of Evergreen, the better-for-you frozen waffle brand built on a simple idea: what if your kid's easiest breakfast was also their most nutritious one? In this episode, Emily shares the winding, shoot-your-shot journey that took her from corporate law at Kirkland & Ellis to general counsel at Alinea to accidental food entrepreneur — all while pregnant, then postpartum, then navigating a COVID launch week.We talk about what it really means to be a "mom founder," the specific moment a podcast sparked a business idea (very meta, we know), and why Emily credits her kids — not in spite of them — for keeping Evergreen alive through the hard moments. Plus: pancakes are coming, protein waffles are on the way, and yes, Sam puts cottage cheese on everything.In this episode:Why Emily cold-emailed the founder of Alinea at 10pm — and got a response in 18 minutesThe reframe that changed how she thinks about work-life balance (hint: it's "integration," not balance)How being her own core consumer is her biggest competitive advantageWhy she hasn't compromised on a single ingredient, even when investors told her toThe non-negotiables that keep her going as a working mom and founder"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." — Wayne Gretzky, Michael Scott, and apparently Emily Groden.Find Evergreen at eatevergreen.com or @EatEvergreen on social.Email us at [email protected] us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

In this episode of We'll Sleep When We're Dead, Sam and Lucy reunite for a solo catch-up after Sam's eventful trip to Portugal — including a flight diversion to Boston and a reunion with her kids that surprised even her. The hosts dive into summer as a working mom vs. stay-at-home mom, share what they're loving this season, and play a fun summer yay-or-nay game covering everything from camping to outdoor concerts to state fairs. They also tease some incredible upcoming guests and share what's been inspiring them lately. A perfect listen for moms navigating the summer season with humor, honesty, and zero pretense.Email us at [email protected] us on YouTube at We'll Sleep When We're Dead PodcastFind us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

When should you take your child to the ER — and when can you wait? In this episode, we sit down with an emergency medicine physician and dad of three to get answers to the questions every mom has Googled at midnight. We cover: ​When to go to the ER vs. stay home​RSV and bronchiolitis symptoms in babies and toddlers​Pediatric head injury warning signs (and the PECARN rule every parent should know), and what concussion vs. skull fracture imaging actually tells you​When kids need stitches vs. glue​Helmet safety, trampolines, and what ER doctors actually worry aboutWhether you're a first-time mom or a third-timer who still panics, this episode is packed with practical, doctor-approved guidance for navigating kids' emergencies with more confidence.Medical Disclaimer: This episode features a licensed emergency medicine physician. Content is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.https://www.mdcalc.com/calc/589/pecarn-pediatric-head-injury-trauma-algorithmhttps://www.mdcalc.com/calc/589/pecarn-pediatric-head-injury-trauma-algorithmEmail us at [email protected]! Youtube - We'll Sleep When We're DeadFind us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Working moms, stay-at-home moms, and every mom in between — this one's for you.In this episode, we're sharing five honest truths about being a working mom: from the golden rule that someone always gets sick before a big work trip, to why childcare is genuinely hard no matter which option you choose, to the reality that ambition doesn't disappear after you have kids — and why that's perfectly okay.We also get real about the mental load of leaving for a work trip, the constant trade-offs working parents navigate every single day, and why kids absolutely cannot behave the moment you get on a work call.Whether you're a new mom trying to figure out work-life balance, a seasoned working parent in the thick of it, or just looking for some honest mom talk — we see you.Email us at [email protected] us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

If you've ever felt trapped between staying in your career or walking away entirely — this episode is for you.We're back with returning guest Mel Goodman of Work Mom, and we're going deeper than our first conversation about the mental load. Today we're tackling the question so many moms are quietly asking right now: do I stay or do I go? And Mel's here to tell you why that binary is keeping you stuck.In this episode we cover:    •    Why you can't make a sound career decision when you're in a state of depletion — and what to do first    •    The 12 career options (yes, 12) that working moms actually have, organized into 6 clusters    •    What a "portfolio career" is and why it might be the bridge so many in-between moms are looking for    •    Fractional work, job sharing, consulting — what they really require and if they're right for you    •    The identity load: why leaving corporate feels like losing yourself    •    What it means to "redefine success" in your current role without quitting    •    The 3 questions every overwhelmed working mom should sit with right nowMel also responds to a listener message about using AI as a life coach to work through the constant oscillation between career ambition and wanting to be present for her kids — and it's one of the most relatable moments we've had on the podcast.Whether you're a working mom, stay-at-home mom, or somewhere in the in-between, this episode will meet you exactly where you are.Find Mel at https://www.workmom.io/aboutEmail us: [email protected] us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube: @WSWWD

This week, we're getting real. Sam shares her five honest truths about life as a stay-at-home mom — and they might not be what you expect. From loving your kids deeply while being completely bored out of your mind, to the loneliness that no playdate can fully fix, to the feeling that the outside world is moving on without you — this episode says out loud what so many moms think but don't say.We also get into the "grateful trap" — that pressure to always be thankful for the life you chose, even on the days when it's really, really hard. Plus raccoon updates, Summer House confessions, and why we're both officially anti-pet.Whether you're a stay-at-home mom, a working mom, or somewhere in between — this one's going to hit.Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube @WSWWD

What does it take to walk away from a successful corporate career to become a full-time dad and content creator? This week, we sit down with Jason Eadie — creator, entrepreneur and father of 4. As the face behind the wildly popular social media account 4KidsCallMeDad, Jason comes on to talk about career pivots, intentional parenting, and betting on yourself even when there's no safety net.Jason shares his journey from Ernst & Young accountant to med device sales rep at Stryker, to full-time content creator with millions of followers — and why he has zero regrets. We dig into what it really looks like to document family life authentically, how he thinks about his kids' presence on social media, the truth about travel sports and whether it's actually worth it, and the one question he asks his kids after every single game that has nothing to do with the score.In this episode we cover:​Leaving a stable corporate career to follow your passion​Building an authentic brand around real family moments​Kids and social media — the honest conversation​Travel sports culture and what actually matters​Raising resilient kids through setbacks and disappointment​Why Jason thinks the whole retirement system is backwardsFollow Jason @4kidscallmedad Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube @WSWWD

This Mother's Day week, Lucy and Sam get honest about the working mom vs. stay at home mom debate that no one talks about enough — is quality time with your kids actually better than quantity time? Inspired by Emma Grede's controversial take on motherhood and career, they unpack the pressure modern moms feel to make every moment intentional, and why that pressure might be making things worse. From solo parenting burnout to the banana meltdown that derailed a perfectly planned pickup, this episode is raw, funny, and deeply relatable. Plus: suburban raccoon drama, a city vs. suburbs step count challenge, and the most toxic mom trait you'll 100% recognize in yourself. Happy Mother's Day to every mom doing her best out there — this one's for you.Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube @WSWWD

If you've ever Googled "toddler night wakings won't stop" at 2 a.m., you're not alone — and this episode was made for you.Lucy gets candid about the reality of parenting through sleep deprivation, toddler sleep regression, and those exhausting night wakings that no sleep training book quite prepares you for. Instead of another rigid routine to follow, she offers a game-changing mindset shift: learning to see sleepless nights as a season — not a permanent sentence. Then, Sam shares everything she learned from traveling to Disney World with young kids — and it's not the fairy tale you might expect. From navigating massive crowds and managing toddler meltdowns mid-park, to her honest Disney ride strategy and which overhyped attractions simply aren't worth your time or money, she gives you the practical family travel tips no glossy Disney guide will tell you. Whether you're planning your first Disney trip with a toddler or trying to survive your second, her real-talk advice will help you set realistic expectations and actually enjoy the trip.Finally, Lucy closes with something a little unexpected: picking up Mahjong as a total adult beginner. It's a reminder that adult learning, social connection, and trying something completely new aren't luxuries — they're survival tools for the modern parent.Learn more about Meet at Mahjhttps://meetatmahj.com/Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube @WSWWD

We are joined by Madeline Custer, the fitness expert and mom of three behind Madeline Moves. If you've ever felt lost after a C-section, overwhelmed by your postpartum body, or like you just don't have time to work out, this one's for you.Madeline opens up about her journey through miscarriage, three C-sections, and an unexpected third pregnancy — and how each experience shaped her mission to create accessible fitness resources for moms. We dig into why strength training beats cardio for long-term results, how 30 minutes can be enough (really), and what actually gives when you're a mom prioritizing her health.We also get into her easy high-protein meal hacks for the moms who hate cooking, her upcoming Move Together 5-week challenge, and the mindset shift that changed everything: normal is sacred.Whether you're a working mom, stay-at-home mom, or somewhere in between — this conversation will leave you feeling motivated, seen, and ready to pick up some weights.Follow Madeline Custer on Instagram @madeline_moves  Offer: $20 off (get your first month free!)Code: WSWWDValid Through: 12/31/26You can enter the code at checkout, or use this link where it’s already applied: https://app.movesapp.com/checkout?coupon=WSWWD&planId=plan_NhXa7kLhh8BxyV&utm_source=wswwdpodcastThis episode is brought to you in part by our sponsors:House of Yes: Head to houseofyesfoods.com and use code WSWWD15 for 15% off your first order Anomaly Health: Go to ⁠⁠tryanomalyhealth.com⁠⁠ and use discount code WSWWD20 for a 20% of your first purchase. Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube @WSWWD

Unlock the secrets to balancing a successful career and motherhood without sacrificing your sanity. Lindsay Levin, a CMO, VC, and now Executive Coach, shares her no-nonsense approach to thriving professionally while nurturing a vibrant family life—proving that women don’t have to choose between their ambitions and their kids. In this candid conversation, Lindsay takes us through her extraordinary journey—from designing global trips in her 20s to leading marketing for high-growth startups while pregnant, and ultimately founding her own coaching practice. Discover how she navigated the challenges of working in startup environments as the only working mom, managing burnout, and making strategic trade-offs that allowed her to stay connected, fulfilled, and forward-moving. We break down pragmatic frameworks like "distribution of energy" and "systematizing responsibilities" that have helped Lindsay and other high-achieving women optimize their busy lives. You'll explore how to manage internal and external expectations, create supportive routines, and foster confidence in both your leadership and parenting roles. Lindsay also reveals how her personal experience with aging kids in the preteen phase offers a fresh perspective on the evolving challenges women face at different life stages—plus insights on how to nurture confidence and clarity amidst chaos.Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube @WSWWD

Spring Break + Masters! . In this episode, Samantha and Lucy share stories from their recent spring break trips that highlight the universal struggles and surprising joys of parenting and self-care. From the hilarious chaos of kids’ behavior and well-meaning (but often unhelpful) comments from other parents, to the breathtaking experience of attending the 2025 Masters golf tournament. You'll discover how a no-phone zone at the Masters fosters genuine conversations and authentic interactions — and how similar moments of true disconnection can revolutionize your family life. We break down the mental load of packing, the emotional rollercoaster of re-entry after a trip, and the unexpectedly shared experiences that unite parents across all stages of childhood. Whether you’re a parent drowning in the chaos, a woman craving real self-care, or anyone longing for a moment of clarity — this episode is your invitation to hit pause, breathe, and rediscover what matters most. Perfect for busy parents, travel lovers, and anyone seeking a fresh perspective on life’s fleeting moments. Join us for stories that inspire you to disconnect to reconnect — with your family, your passions, and yourself.Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube @WSWWD

Most new moms—and even those years postpartum—are left in the dark about how long recovery truly lasts and what they should really be monitoring in those critical first months. Eric Scott, founder and CEO of Postpartum USA, reveals a groundbreaking approach to postpartum care that could transform your health for a lifetime, starting with simple lab tests many women overlook. If you’re tired of feeling exhausted, overwhelmed, and misunderstood, this episode is your wake-up call to put yourself first—because postpartum health isn’t just a phase; it’s a lifelong journey. Eric shares the shocking story that propelled his mission: nearly losing a close friend to postpartum complications and how that tragedy ignited a movement to overhaul maternal care in America. You’ll discover how micronutrient depletion and hormone shifts silently undermine your physical, mental, and emotional well-being long after you leave the hospital. We break down the myth of the six-week “bounce back” and reveal how symptoms can persist—and even worsen—for up to 10 years if left unaddressed. This episode dives into the overlooked gaps in traditional postpartum care, explaining why the standard “checkup and go” approach leaves millions vulnerable—and how proactive, lab-based diagnostics can catch hidden deficiencies early. Learn why investing in personalized labs, nutrition, and ongoing support can slash years of unnecessary suffering, ultimately safeguarding marriages, careers, and mental health. Perfect for moms feeling overwhelmed, partners wanting to better support, and anyone committed to changing the narrative around postpartum health. This is your call to treat recovery as a lifelong, holistic process—and to prioritize your well-being before it’s too late. This episode is brought to you by Anomaly Health.Go to ⁠tryanomalyhealth.com⁠ and use discount code WSWWD20 for a 20% of your first purchase. Postpartum Care USA - https://ppcareusa.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/postpartumcare_usa/Email us! [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this candid and hilarious episode, Sam and Lucy share their raw, sleepless nights and surprising personal growth, proving that motherhood doesn’t just change your kids—it transforms you. When you're scraping through the exhaustion, it turns out you develop a capacity for resilience so immense it shocks you. Think you’re maxed out? These moms reveal how they’ve uncovered new layers of patience, judgment-free confidence, and emotional strength—sometimes in the most chaotic moments. From the ridiculous bathroom-floor lick stories to revelations about why they’re now more relaxed about their kids’ unbrushed hair, their honesty is both relatable and inspiring.You’ll discover: how motherhood expands your capacity to get things done in record time, even on no sleep; the surprising superpowers of judgment detox and emotional resilience; and why deepening relationships with your children might be the best gift of all. We break down common misunderstandings about parenthood, share hilarious stories about sleep struggles and bathroom floor adventures, and discuss the unexpected ways motherhood rewires your heart and mind.If you're a parent feeling overwhelmed, exhausted, or questioning if you’re supposed to be “perfect,” this episode is for you. It’s a reminder that life’s chaos isn’t just a burden—it’s also a catalyst for growth, humor, and discovering strength you never knew existed. Whether you're navigating sleepless nights or simply seeking reassurance that you're not alone, tune in to embrace the beautiful mess of motherhood.This episode is perfect for busy parents, hopeful new moms, or anyone craving honesty and humor in the parental journey. Get ready to laugh, learn, and feel empowered—motherhood unlocks superpowers you’ll want to claim.This episode is brought to you by Anomaly HealthGo to tryanomalyhealth.com and use discount code WSWWD20 for a 20% of your first purchase. Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Lucy and Sam chat with Gretchen Trubee who shares her remarkable journey from a career-driven professional to a confident homeschooling mom, fueled by her sister's inspiring example. She debunks common stereotypes—like socialization concerns and rigidity—and reveals how homeschooling can be tailor-made to fit every child's unique learning style. Gretchen's candid advice makes it clear: you, too, can craft an education that fits your family and transforms your worries into confidence. Perfect for parents curious about homeschooling, overwhelmed by curriculum decisions, or seeking flexible education options for multiple children. If you're craving inspiration, real-world tips, and a dose of honesty, this episode is your blueprint to embracing the homeschooling journey with joy and confidence. Email us: [email protected] us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

CJ Hendry, artist and mother of three, shares her raw, hilarious journey navigating motherhood in the city, all while building her creative empire. In this episode, CJ breaks down how she balances her thriving art career with raising three kids across continents—from Australia to Brooklyn. You'll discover how her unconventional approach to parenting emphasizes ease and joy over perfection, and why she believes hard work and authenticity are the ultimate superpowers. We explore the truth about modern motherhood: the pressures, the mess, and the unexpected moments of love that make it all worth it. She talks about ditching the pressure of extracurriculars, choosing connection over chaos, and why the secret to raising balanced children is simply showing up as your imperfect, exhausted, real self.Why does this matter? Because in a world obsessed with productivity and picture-perfect parenting, CJ boldly affirms that just surviving—sometimes in sweatpants and a pile of laundry—is enough. Her stories inspire parents to embrace the chaos, ditch the guilt, and find joy in the little, unruly moments. Whether you're a creative soul or in the trenches of parenting, this episode offers honest, hilarious encouragement to keep going—and to enjoy every beautifully imperfect second.Perfect for busy parents craving relatability, artists balancing motherhood, or anyone feeling the weight of it all—CJ’s perspective reminds us: you don’t need to do it all perfectly to get it right. Hit play now and discover that sometimes, less effort leads to the most genuine [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

Sam and Lucy share their wildest travel stories and reveal the unexpected lessons behind managing children in tight spaces. From screaming flights to airport rescue missions, discover how even the most chaotic moments can teach you about patience, priorities, and energy management.This episode is perfect for busy parents, overwhelmed travelers, and anyone feeling like they're just surviving life — because sometimes, giving yourself permission to do less is the real success. If your days feel overwhelming and your energy is scattered, this episode will remind you that you’re not alone—and that smaller, smarter choices can help you reclaim your peace. Get ready for laughs, real talk, and unexpectedly empowering insights that will help you handle everyday chaos with a little more grace. Whether you're navigating messy mornings or epic travel days, this episode will leave you feeling understood, inspired, and ready to reset your energy — even if your kids refuse to cooperate.Find Mel Goodman ⁠https://www.workmom.io/about⁠[email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Lucy and Sam talked to Lauren Weinberg who shares how strategic organization and unwavering boundaries help her show up fully for her family and her career, even in demanding roles at Yahoo, Peloton, and now Supergoop.In this candid conversation, Lauren reveals the mindset shifts that transformed her approach to motherhood, leadership, and personal fulfillment. You’ll discover the power of intentional scheduling and boundary-setting that allows her to be present for her teenage sons’ final years at home, while still actively shaping her career in competitive, fast-paced industries. She shares her real-life hacks—from orchestrating meal plans to managing a hectic schedule with a calendar obsession—to reclaim time without guilt.Lauren also explores the importance of cultivating a personal advisory board, embracing optimism as a leadership strength, and learning to say no to opportunities that don’t align with her values or family priorities. Her insights on the evolution of workplace support for working parents—and her honest reflections on mom guilt—offer a blueprint for anyone navigating the complex blend of ambition and family.Perfect for working moms, emerging leaders, and anyone craving practical strategies to make the most of limited time, this episode challenges the myth of doing it all. Lauren’s story proves that with clarity, boundaries, and a village of support, you can make meaningful progress in your career and create cherished moments with your loved ones—without sacrifice or guilt. Hit play and start reimagining how you can thrive at work and at [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Lucy and Sam reflect on their last weeks podcast with Mel Goodman on the four types of mental load—and how each impacts your sense of self and wellbeing. We break down practical ways to recognize which load feels the heaviest right now and how a shift in perspective can free up mental space. From navigating the emotional worries that halo over everything, to managing the chaos of logistics with small yet powerful shifts—this is real talk for overwhelmed moms trying to find balance.You'll also hear candid stories about the chaos of school parties, the transformative power of saying no, and how prioritizing your mental health isn’t just a luxury—it’s a necessity. We get into how motherhood shifts your identity, why the first years are a fog of loss and rediscovery, and how to reclaim your sense of self amid the hustle. Plus, practical tips on easing logistical burdens like managing schedules, chores, and even solo travel with kids—because a lighter mental load isn’t just a dream, it’s within reach.If you ever felt guilty for feeling exhausted or wondered if you’re the only one struggling to balance it all, this episode is your permission slip to breathe. Perfect for moms in the trenches, new parents questioning their identity, or anyone overwhelmed by the invisible weight of motherhood. Let this episode be your reminder that you’re not alone—and that with understanding, you can lighten the load and reclaim your joy.Join us as we unpack the emotional and mental chaos, bust myths about perfection, and explore real strategies to handle the unmanageable. This isn’t just talk—it’s a blueprint for mothers ready to prioritize their wellbeing and rediscover themselves. Hit play and start lifting that invisible weight today.Find Mel Goodman ⁠https://www.workmom.io/about⁠[email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

Mel Goodman is the founder of WorkMom, a transformational coach and thought leader in navigating motherhood and career. Her work helps women reimagine success and reclaim their identities beyond societal expectations. In this episode, you'll discover how women’s evolving concepts of success actually help them make better decisions—if they give themselves permission to think differently. Mel shares practical ways to recognize the four hidden loads every working mom faces: mental, logistical, emotional, and most surprisingly—identity overload. You’ll learn how to identify your current season’s priorities and set the guardrails necessary for boundaries and mental clarity, even amid relentless demands.We break down: the real meaning behind mom guilt and how it’s a signal, not a shame trigger; how to manage the constant availability trap without burning out; and why revisiting your core identity isn't a one-time event but a regular practice—especially when life's chapters shift. You’ll also hear why giving yourself permission to evolve your definition of success opens the door to more fulfillment, freedom, and impact—and how to trust that good enough is often perfect for this season of life.This episode is perfect for high-achieving women feeling overwhelmed, stuck, or questioning if they can truly have it all. If you’re ready to drop the guilt, set meaningful boundaries, and craft a success story that aligns with who you are today, don’t miss this soul-nourishing conversation. Your next step toward clarity and confidence starts here.Find Mel Goodman https://www.workmom.io/[email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

This episode dives into the ultimate snow day mindset shift that can transform your toughest days. Whether you're drowning in remote learning frustrations, juggling work-from-home chaos, or just trying to survive the snowpocalypse with your sanity—and humor—intact, this is your must-listen. We explore how real moms and working parents navigate the chaos, share hilarious yet relatable stories about lost products, closet-sized snow plays, and the stress of managing fussy kids in layers of gear. You’ll discover practical mindset shifts, plus behind-the-scenes tales of epic game days, viral moments, and lessons in resilience that remind us: it’s okay if your chapter looks [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Lucy and Sam welcome Katie Poehling Seymour, the fifth-generation leader of First Supply, a 128-year-old family business. Katie shares her journey from consulting to becoming CEO, the importance of succession planning, and balancing her roles as a business leader and mother of three. The conversation delves into the challenges and rewards of leading a family business, the significance of having advocates in one's career, and the evolving conversation around work-life integration, especially for women in leadership [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Lucy and Samantha dive into the whirlwind of motherhood, sharing stories that range from the humorous to the deeply reflective. Whether it's dealing with unexpected travel companions or pondering the nature versus nurture debate, they offer a heartfelt glimpse into their lives. Perfect for anyone looking to laugh, relate, and reflect. [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

Join hosts Lucy and Sam as we dive into an engaging conversation with Rachel Mansfield, a dynamic cookbook author, recipe developer, and entrepreneur. Rachel shares her journey from starting a kid's snack brand, cadootz, to balancing life as a mom of three. Discover her insights on work-life integration, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and the joys of family life. Tune in for an inspiring episode filled with laughter, real talk, and a glimpse into Rachel's world of creativity and resilience.Buy cadootz here, https://cadootz.com/. Find Rachel at https://rachlmansfield.com/[email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In the latest episode of the podcast "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Sam and Lucy celebrate the dawn of a new year, sharing their personal reflections and excitement for what lies ahead in 2026. As they embark on their first podcast recording together, they blend humor, candidness, and relatable anecdotes to engage listeners in a conversation about fresh starts and [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

We are ending 2025 by replaying our most popular episode in 2025! Lucy and Sam explore the challenges and joys of parenting, career paths, and personal growth. They discuss their experiences as mothers, the struggles of sleep deprivation, and their individual career paths. The conversation also delves into reflections on age, aspirations for their children, and the balance between work and family life. With humor and vulnerability, they share insights on self-care and the journey of motherhood, ultimately encouraging each other to embrace their paths and inspire their [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

Join hosts Lucy and Sam in a special compilation episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead." As they wrap up 2025, they share a collection of the best insights, mom hacks, and life advice from their amazing guests throughout the year. From nutrition tips to balancing career and family, this episode is packed with practical advice and heartfelt stories. Tune in for a dose of inspiration as you set your goals for [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, join hosts Lucy and Sam as they sit down with Broadway star Ginna Claire Mason. Dive into Ginna Claire’s journey from her childhood dreams to the bright lights of Broadway, and discover how she balances her thriving career with motherhood. From hilarious backstage stories to heartfelt discussions on mom guilt and community, this episode is a delightful blend of laughter, inspiration, and real-life insights. Whether you're a theater enthusiast or a parent navigating the chaos of daily life, this conversation is sure to resonate. Tune in for a candid chat that celebrates the beauty of pursuing dreams while cherishing [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Lucy and Sam discuss the challenges of parenting during the holiday season, the mental load of organizing summer camps, and the joy of supporting their favorite sports teams. They share personal anecdotes about balancing family life, the importance of saying no, and the excitement of holiday preparations. The conversation is filled with humor, relatable experiences, and a reminder that it's okay to feel overwhelmed during this busy time of [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this heartfelt episode, we dive into the unexpected challenges of parenting as we recount a day filled with tears and toothaches. We also delve into the topic of redshirting a kindergarten kid, discussing the pros and cons of delaying school entry for a year. Through these stories, we reflect on the unpredictable journey of parenting and the moments that test our patience and [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this engaging conversation, the Lucy and Sam explore the life of a coach's wife, discussing the challenges and rewards of managing family life with a traveling spouse. They delve into the importance of building a support system, navigating uncertainty, and the mental load of parenting. The discussion highlights personal experiences, career decisions, and the significance of community connections, providing valuable insights for listeners in similar situations. In this engaging conversation, Carol shares her experiences and insights on balancing family life with a career, particularly in the context of her husband's demanding job in the NBA. She discusses the challenges of parenting through different stages, especially during high school, and reflects on the worries that come with raising children. The conversation also touches on the importance of self-care, communication, and the evolving nature of motherhood as children grow older. Carol emphasizes the need to not sweat the small stuff and to focus on what truly matters in [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Sam and Lucy share personal stories about the challenges of parenting, the importance of community support, and the unexpected adventures that come with motherhood. From marathon experiences to dealing with a child's breath-holding incidents, they highlight the significance of accepting help and building a supportive [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode Sam and Lucy welcome Misse Daniel, the founder of Honey Bee Weddings in Chicago. Misse shares her journey from consulting to becoming a successful wedding planner, balancing her career with motherhood, and her innovative approach to sustainable luxury weddings. Tune in to hear about the challenges and triumphs of running a business, the importance of family time, and the evolving trends in the wedding industry. Plus, get inspired by Misse's hustle and her commitment to making a positive impact.Email us! [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

Join Samantha and Lucy as they dive into the world of marathon training, from the challenges of carb loading to the excitement of running through the vibrant streets of New York City. Discover the hilarious moments of running without headphones, the emotional journey of preparing for a big race, and the unique Halloween traditions in Brooklyn. Whether you're a seasoned runner or just love a good story, this episode is packed with laughter, insights, and [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Kaitlyn Trabucco shares her journey from corporate America to entrepreneurship, highlighting the pivotal moment when she was laid off shortly after her 40th birthday. She discusses the creation of Looky Lou, a product inspired by her experiences as a mother, and the challenges and joys of balancing a startup with family life. The conversation delves into the importance of authenticity in social media, the value of rest, and the evolving nature of work-life balance. Kaitlyn's story is one of resilience, creativity, and embracing new opportunities with confidence.The Looky Lou TheLookyLou AND on AmazonFind us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this engaging episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Lucy and Sam dive into the ups and downs of family life, focusing on their personal experiences with au pairs. They share candid stories about the challenges and joys of integrating an au pair into their households, offering insights into how this decision has impacted their family dynamics. Tune in for a heartfelt discussion that explores the balance of parenting, the importance of support, and the unique journey of raising children with a little extra [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this conversation, we have our second guest Rosemary Morgan. Lucy and Sam discusses the importance of embracing non-linear career paths with Rosemary, highlighting how diverse experiences contribute to personal and professional growth. They explore the angst surrounding traditional career trajectories and celebrate the value of unique [email protected] us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this conversation, Lucy and Sam discuss the challenges of finding reliable childcare and the disparity between expectations and reality in parenting support. They share personal anecdotes about their experiences with nannies and the struggles that come with balancing work and family life.Calico Critters AmazonCharlotte Tilbury Powder AmazonFind us on ⁠Instagram⁠Find us on ⁠tiktok⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Lucy and Sam discuss the challenges of balancing parenting with personal goals, including running and social activities. They reflect on their experiences as stay-at-home moms, the expectations placed on them, and the guilt that often accompanies motherhood. The conversation shifts to the importance of self-care, the value of taking risks in one's career, and the lessons learned from past choices. They also touch on the significance of travel and trying new things, as well as the feedback received from listeners about the podcast. Ultimately, the episode emphasizes the journey of motherhood and the importance of embracing change and growth.Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD