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We'll Sleep When We're Dead
by We'll Sleep When We're Dead
We'll Sleep When We're Dead is the motherhood podcast for moms who want the group chat they never had — real talk, relatable stories, and the comfort of knowing someone else feels it too. Hosted by two best friends navigating modern motherhood from different angles: one a stay-at-home mom in NYC, the other a working mom balancing career and family life.This is the podcast for moms who want honest, funny, and unfiltered conversations about the messy sides of motherhood that everyone thinks but rarely says out loud. From the mental load to marriage, ambition to identity — we go there.New episodes weekly. Follow us @wswwdpod on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.
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Stay-At-Home Mom Truths: Loneliness, Boredom & Feeling Left Behind
This week, we're getting real. Sam shares her five honest truths about life as a stay-at-home mom — and they might not be what you expect. From loving your kids deeply while being completely bored out of your mind, to the loneliness that no playdate can fully fix, to the feeling that the outside world is moving on without you — this episode says out loud what so many moms think but don't say.We also get into the "grateful trap" — that pressure to always be thankful for the life you chose, even on the days when it's really, really hard. Plus raccoon updates, Summer House confessions, and why we're both officially anti-pet.Whether you're a stay-at-home mom, a working mom, or somewhere in between — this one's going to hit.Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokYoutube @WSWWD
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Quitting the Corporate Ladder to Be a Present Dad — and Going Viral Doing It, with Jason Eadie
What does it take to walk away from a successful corporate career to become a full-time dad and content creator? This week, we sit down with Jason Eadie — creator, entrepreneur and father of 4. As the face behind the wildly popular social media account 4KidsCallMeDad, Jason comes on to talk about career pivots, intentional parenting, and betting on yourself even when there's no safety net.Jason shares his journey from Ernst & Young accountant to med device sales rep at Stryker, to full-time content creator with millions of followers — and why he has zero regrets. We dig into what it really looks like to document family life authentically, how he thinks about his kids' presence on social media, the truth about travel sports and whether it's actually worth it, and the one question he asks his kids after every single game that has nothing to do with the score.In this episode we cover:Leaving a stable corporate career to follow your passionBuilding an authentic brand around real family momentsKids and social media — the honest conversationTravel sports culture and what actually mattersRaising resilient kids through setbacks and disappointmentWhy Jason thinks the whole retirement system is backwardsFollow Jason @4kidscallmedad Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokYoutube @WSWWD
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Quality Time vs. Quantity Time: What Actually Matters for Moms This Mother's Day
This Mother's Day week, Lucy and Sam get honest about the working mom vs. stay at home mom debate that no one talks about enough — is quality time with your kids actually better than quantity time? Inspired by Emma Grede's controversial take on motherhood and career, they unpack the pressure modern moms feel to make every moment intentional, and why that pressure might be making things worse. From solo parenting burnout to the banana meltdown that derailed a perfectly planned pickup, this episode is raw, funny, and deeply relatable. Plus: suburban raccoon drama, a city vs. suburbs step count challenge, and the most toxic mom trait you'll 100% recognize in yourself. Happy Mother's Day to every mom doing her best out there — this one's for you.Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokYoutube @WSWWD
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Disney Drama, Trying Mahjong for the First Time & Our Recording Fell Apart
If you've ever Googled "toddler night wakings won't stop" at 2 a.m., you're not alone — and this episode was made for you.Lucy gets candid about the reality of parenting through sleep deprivation, toddler sleep regression, and those exhausting night wakings that no sleep training book quite prepares you for. Instead of another rigid routine to follow, she offers a game-changing mindset shift: learning to see sleepless nights as a season — not a permanent sentence. Then, Sam shares everything she learned from traveling to Disney World with young kids — and it's not the fairy tale you might expect. From navigating massive crowds and managing toddler meltdowns mid-park, to her honest Disney ride strategy and which overhyped attractions simply aren't worth your time or money, she gives you the practical family travel tips no glossy Disney guide will tell you. Whether you're planning your first Disney trip with a toddler or trying to survive your second, her real-talk advice will help you set realistic expectations and actually enjoy the trip.Finally, Lucy closes with something a little unexpected: picking up Mahjong as a total adult beginner. It's a reminder that adult learning, social connection, and trying something completely new aren't luxuries — they're survival tools for the modern parent.Learn more about Meet at Mahjhttps://meetatmahj.com/Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokYoutube @WSWWD
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Madeline Custer on Postpartum Fitness, Real Mom Life & the 30-Minute Workout
We are joined by Madeline Custer, the fitness expert and mom of three behind Madeline Moves. If you've ever felt lost after a C-section, overwhelmed by your postpartum body, or like you just don't have time to work out, this one's for you.Madeline opens up about her journey through miscarriage, three C-sections, and an unexpected third pregnancy — and how each experience shaped her mission to create accessible fitness resources for moms. We dig into why strength training beats cardio for long-term results, how 30 minutes can be enough (really), and what actually gives when you're a mom prioritizing her health.We also get into her easy high-protein meal hacks for the moms who hate cooking, her upcoming Move Together 5-week challenge, and the mindset shift that changed everything: normal is sacred.Whether you're a working mom, stay-at-home mom, or somewhere in between — this conversation will leave you feeling motivated, seen, and ready to pick up some weights.Follow Madeline Custer on Instagram @madeline_moves Offer: $20 off (get your first month free!)Code: WSWWDValid Through: 12/31/26You can enter the code at checkout, or use this link where it’s already applied: https://app.movesapp.com/checkout?coupon=WSWWD&planId=plan_NhXa7kLhh8BxyV&utm_source=wswwdpodcastThis episode is brought to you in part by our sponsors:House of Yes: Head to houseofyesfoods.com and use code WSWWD15 for 15% off your first order Anomaly Health: Go to tryanomalyhealth.com and use discount code WSWWD20 for a 20% of your first purchase. Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokYoutube @WSWWD
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The Truth About Working Moms: Lindsay Levin on Career, Motherhood & Trade-Offs
Unlock the secrets to balancing a successful career and motherhood without sacrificing your sanity. Lindsay Levin, a CMO, VC, and now Executive Coach, shares her no-nonsense approach to thriving professionally while nurturing a vibrant family life—proving that women don’t have to choose between their ambitions and their kids. In this candid conversation, Lindsay takes us through her extraordinary journey—from designing global trips in her 20s to leading marketing for high-growth startups while pregnant, and ultimately founding her own coaching practice. Discover how she navigated the challenges of working in startup environments as the only working mom, managing burnout, and making strategic trade-offs that allowed her to stay connected, fulfilled, and forward-moving. We break down pragmatic frameworks like "distribution of energy" and "systematizing responsibilities" that have helped Lindsay and other high-achieving women optimize their busy lives. You'll explore how to manage internal and external expectations, create supportive routines, and foster confidence in both your leadership and parenting roles. Lindsay also reveals how her personal experience with aging kids in the preteen phase offers a fresh perspective on the evolving challenges women face at different life stages—plus insights on how to nurture confidence and clarity amidst chaos.Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokYoutube @WSWWD
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From the Vault: Sam’s First Masters Trip — What It’s Really Like at Augusta
Spring Break + Masters! . In this episode, Samantha and Lucy share stories from their recent spring break trips that highlight the universal struggles and surprising joys of parenting and self-care. From the hilarious chaos of kids’ behavior and well-meaning (but often unhelpful) comments from other parents, to the breathtaking experience of attending the 2025 Masters golf tournament. You'll discover how a no-phone zone at the Masters fosters genuine conversations and authentic interactions — and how similar moments of true disconnection can revolutionize your family life. We break down the mental load of packing, the emotional rollercoaster of re-entry after a trip, and the unexpectedly shared experiences that unite parents across all stages of childhood. Whether you’re a parent drowning in the chaos, a woman craving real self-care, or anyone longing for a moment of clarity — this episode is your invitation to hit pause, breathe, and rediscover what matters most. Perfect for busy parents, travel lovers, and anyone seeking a fresh perspective on life’s fleeting moments. Join us for stories that inspire you to disconnect to reconnect — with your family, your passions, and yourself.Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokYoutube @WSWWD
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The 10-Year Postpartum Journey: Redefining Recovery with Eric Scott
Most new moms—and even those years postpartum—are left in the dark about how long recovery truly lasts and what they should really be monitoring in those critical first months. Eric Scott, founder and CEO of Postpartum USA, reveals a groundbreaking approach to postpartum care that could transform your health for a lifetime, starting with simple lab tests many women overlook. If you’re tired of feeling exhausted, overwhelmed, and misunderstood, this episode is your wake-up call to put yourself first—because postpartum health isn’t just a phase; it’s a lifelong journey. Eric shares the shocking story that propelled his mission: nearly losing a close friend to postpartum complications and how that tragedy ignited a movement to overhaul maternal care in America. You’ll discover how micronutrient depletion and hormone shifts silently undermine your physical, mental, and emotional well-being long after you leave the hospital. We break down the myth of the six-week “bounce back” and reveal how symptoms can persist—and even worsen—for up to 10 years if left unaddressed. This episode dives into the overlooked gaps in traditional postpartum care, explaining why the standard “checkup and go” approach leaves millions vulnerable—and how proactive, lab-based diagnostics can catch hidden deficiencies early. Learn why investing in personalized labs, nutrition, and ongoing support can slash years of unnecessary suffering, ultimately safeguarding marriages, careers, and mental health. Perfect for moms feeling overwhelmed, partners wanting to better support, and anyone committed to changing the narrative around postpartum health. This is your call to treat recovery as a lifelong, holistic process—and to prioritize your well-being before it’s too late. This episode is brought to you by Anomaly Health.Go to tryanomalyhealth.com and use discount code WSWWD20 for a 20% of your first purchase. Postpartum Care USA - https://ppcareusa.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/postpartumcare_usa/Email us! [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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The Rapid Fire Episode: Hot Takes, Parent Confessions & the Lies We Tell Our Kids
In this candid and hilarious episode, Sam and Lucy share their raw, sleepless nights and surprising personal growth, proving that motherhood doesn’t just change your kids—it transforms you. When you're scraping through the exhaustion, it turns out you develop a capacity for resilience so immense it shocks you. Think you’re maxed out? These moms reveal how they’ve uncovered new layers of patience, judgment-free confidence, and emotional strength—sometimes in the most chaotic moments. From the ridiculous bathroom-floor lick stories to revelations about why they’re now more relaxed about their kids’ unbrushed hair, their honesty is both relatable and inspiring.You’ll discover: how motherhood expands your capacity to get things done in record time, even on no sleep; the surprising superpowers of judgment detox and emotional resilience; and why deepening relationships with your children might be the best gift of all. We break down common misunderstandings about parenthood, share hilarious stories about sleep struggles and bathroom floor adventures, and discuss the unexpected ways motherhood rewires your heart and mind.If you're a parent feeling overwhelmed, exhausted, or questioning if you’re supposed to be “perfect,” this episode is for you. It’s a reminder that life’s chaos isn’t just a burden—it’s also a catalyst for growth, humor, and discovering strength you never knew existed. Whether you're navigating sleepless nights or simply seeking reassurance that you're not alone, tune in to embrace the beautiful mess of motherhood.This episode is perfect for busy parents, hopeful new moms, or anyone craving honesty and humor in the parental journey. Get ready to laugh, learn, and feel empowered—motherhood unlocks superpowers you’ll want to claim.This episode is brought to you by Anomaly HealthGo to tryanomalyhealth.com and use discount code WSWWD20 for a 20% of your first purchase. Email us at [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokYoutube @WSWWD
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Homeschooling Curious
In this episode, Lucy and Sam chat with Gretchen Trubee who shares her remarkable journey from a career-driven professional to a confident homeschooling mom, fueled by her sister's inspiring example. She debunks common stereotypes—like socialization concerns and rigidity—and reveals how homeschooling can be tailor-made to fit every child's unique learning style. Gretchen's candid advice makes it clear: you, too, can craft an education that fits your family and transforms your worries into confidence. Perfect for parents curious about homeschooling, overwhelmed by curriculum decisions, or seeking flexible education options for multiple children. If you're craving inspiration, real-world tips, and a dose of honesty, this episode is your blueprint to embracing the homeschooling journey with joy and confidence. Email us: [email protected] us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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CJ Hendry: On Kids and Chaos
CJ Hendry, artist and mother of three, shares her raw, hilarious journey navigating motherhood in the city, all while building her creative empire. In this episode, CJ breaks down how she balances her thriving art career with raising three kids across continents—from Australia to Brooklyn. You'll discover how her unconventional approach to parenting emphasizes ease and joy over perfection, and why she believes hard work and authenticity are the ultimate superpowers. We explore the truth about modern motherhood: the pressures, the mess, and the unexpected moments of love that make it all worth it. She talks about ditching the pressure of extracurriculars, choosing connection over chaos, and why the secret to raising balanced children is simply showing up as your imperfect, exhausted, real self.Why does this matter? Because in a world obsessed with productivity and picture-perfect parenting, CJ boldly affirms that just surviving—sometimes in sweatpants and a pile of laundry—is enough. Her stories inspire parents to embrace the chaos, ditch the guilt, and find joy in the little, unruly moments. Whether you're a creative soul or in the trenches of parenting, this episode offers honest, hilarious encouragement to keep going—and to enjoy every beautifully imperfect second.Perfect for busy parents craving relatability, artists balancing motherhood, or anyone feeling the weight of it all—CJ’s perspective reminds us: you don’t need to do it all perfectly to get it right. Hit play now and discover that sometimes, less effort leads to the most genuine [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Not Everything Deserves Your BEST Energy
Sam and Lucy share their wildest travel stories and reveal the unexpected lessons behind managing children in tight spaces. From screaming flights to airport rescue missions, discover how even the most chaotic moments can teach you about patience, priorities, and energy management.This episode is perfect for busy parents, overwhelmed travelers, and anyone feeling like they're just surviving life — because sometimes, giving yourself permission to do less is the real success. If your days feel overwhelming and your energy is scattered, this episode will remind you that you’re not alone—and that smaller, smarter choices can help you reclaim your peace. Get ready for laughs, real talk, and unexpectedly empowering insights that will help you handle everyday chaos with a little more grace. Whether you're navigating messy mornings or epic travel days, this episode will leave you feeling understood, inspired, and ready to reset your energy — even if your kids refuse to cooperate.Find Mel Goodman https://www.workmom.io/about[email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Lauren Weinberg: Building Iconic Brands While Raising a Family
In this episode, Lucy and Sam talked to Lauren Weinberg who shares how strategic organization and unwavering boundaries help her show up fully for her family and her career, even in demanding roles at Yahoo, Peloton, and now Supergoop.In this candid conversation, Lauren reveals the mindset shifts that transformed her approach to motherhood, leadership, and personal fulfillment. You’ll discover the power of intentional scheduling and boundary-setting that allows her to be present for her teenage sons’ final years at home, while still actively shaping her career in competitive, fast-paced industries. She shares her real-life hacks—from orchestrating meal plans to managing a hectic schedule with a calendar obsession—to reclaim time without guilt.Lauren also explores the importance of cultivating a personal advisory board, embracing optimism as a leadership strength, and learning to say no to opportunities that don’t align with her values or family priorities. Her insights on the evolution of workplace support for working parents—and her honest reflections on mom guilt—offer a blueprint for anyone navigating the complex blend of ambition and family.Perfect for working moms, emerging leaders, and anyone craving practical strategies to make the most of limited time, this episode challenges the myth of doing it all. Lauren’s story proves that with clarity, boundaries, and a village of support, you can make meaningful progress in your career and create cherished moments with your loved ones—without sacrifice or guilt. Hit play and start reimagining how you can thrive at work and at [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Why I’m So Tired All the Time (Hint: It’s the Mental Load)
In this episode, Lucy and Sam reflect on their last weeks podcast with Mel Goodman on the four types of mental load—and how each impacts your sense of self and wellbeing. We break down practical ways to recognize which load feels the heaviest right now and how a shift in perspective can free up mental space. From navigating the emotional worries that halo over everything, to managing the chaos of logistics with small yet powerful shifts—this is real talk for overwhelmed moms trying to find balance.You'll also hear candid stories about the chaos of school parties, the transformative power of saying no, and how prioritizing your mental health isn’t just a luxury—it’s a necessity. We get into how motherhood shifts your identity, why the first years are a fog of loss and rediscovery, and how to reclaim your sense of self amid the hustle. Plus, practical tips on easing logistical burdens like managing schedules, chores, and even solo travel with kids—because a lighter mental load isn’t just a dream, it’s within reach.If you ever felt guilty for feeling exhausted or wondered if you’re the only one struggling to balance it all, this episode is your permission slip to breathe. Perfect for moms in the trenches, new parents questioning their identity, or anyone overwhelmed by the invisible weight of motherhood. Let this episode be your reminder that you’re not alone—and that with understanding, you can lighten the load and reclaim your joy.Join us as we unpack the emotional and mental chaos, bust myths about perfection, and explore real strategies to handle the unmanageable. This isn’t just talk—it’s a blueprint for mothers ready to prioritize their wellbeing and rediscover themselves. Hit play and start lifting that invisible weight today.Find Mel Goodman https://www.workmom.io/about[email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Ambition Without Burnout - with Mel Goodman, Founder of WorkMom
Mel Goodman is the founder of WorkMom, a transformational coach and thought leader in navigating motherhood and career. Her work helps women reimagine success and reclaim their identities beyond societal expectations. In this episode, you'll discover how women’s evolving concepts of success actually help them make better decisions—if they give themselves permission to think differently. Mel shares practical ways to recognize the four hidden loads every working mom faces: mental, logistical, emotional, and most surprisingly—identity overload. You’ll learn how to identify your current season’s priorities and set the guardrails necessary for boundaries and mental clarity, even amid relentless demands.We break down: the real meaning behind mom guilt and how it’s a signal, not a shame trigger; how to manage the constant availability trap without burning out; and why revisiting your core identity isn't a one-time event but a regular practice—especially when life's chapters shift. You’ll also hear why giving yourself permission to evolve your definition of success opens the door to more fulfillment, freedom, and impact—and how to trust that good enough is often perfect for this season of life.This episode is perfect for high-achieving women feeling overwhelmed, stuck, or questioning if they can truly have it all. If you’re ready to drop the guilt, set meaningful boundaries, and craft a success story that aligns with who you are today, don’t miss this soul-nourishing conversation. Your next step toward clarity and confidence starts here.Find Mel Goodman https://www.workmom.io/[email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Stolen Sephora, “Snow Days” & a Natty
This episode dives into the ultimate snow day mindset shift that can transform your toughest days. Whether you're drowning in remote learning frustrations, juggling work-from-home chaos, or just trying to survive the snowpocalypse with your sanity—and humor—intact, this is your must-listen. We explore how real moms and working parents navigate the chaos, share hilarious yet relatable stories about lost products, closet-sized snow plays, and the stress of managing fussy kids in layers of gear. You’ll discover practical mindset shifts, plus behind-the-scenes tales of epic game days, viral moments, and lessons in resilience that remind us: it’s okay if your chapter looks [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Katie Poehling Seymour: CEO of First Supply
In this episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Lucy and Sam welcome Katie Poehling Seymour, the fifth-generation leader of First Supply, a 128-year-old family business. Katie shares her journey from consulting to becoming CEO, the importance of succession planning, and balancing her roles as a business leader and mother of three. The conversation delves into the challenges and rewards of leading a family business, the significance of having advocates in one's career, and the evolving conversation around work-life integration, especially for women in leadership [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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No Sick Days For Moms
In this episode, Lucy and Samantha dive into the whirlwind of motherhood, sharing stories that range from the humorous to the deeply reflective. Whether it's dealing with unexpected travel companions or pondering the nature versus nurture debate, they offer a heartfelt glimpse into their lives. Perfect for anyone looking to laugh, relate, and reflect. [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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How Rachel Mansfield is Making Mom Life Easier, One Snack at a Time
Join hosts Lucy and Sam as we dive into an engaging conversation with Rachel Mansfield, a dynamic cookbook author, recipe developer, and entrepreneur. Rachel shares her journey from starting a kid's snack brand, cadootz, to balancing life as a mom of three. Discover her insights on work-life integration, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and the joys of family life. Tune in for an inspiring episode filled with laughter, real talk, and a glimpse into Rachel's world of creativity and resilience.Buy cadootz here, https://cadootz.com/. Find Rachel at https://rachlmansfield.com/[email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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New Year, Fire Horse Energy
In the latest episode of the podcast "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Sam and Lucy celebrate the dawn of a new year, sharing their personal reflections and excitement for what lies ahead in 2026. As they embark on their first podcast recording together, they blend humor, candidness, and relatable anecdotes to engage listeners in a conversation about fresh starts and [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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From Career to Stay at Home Mom (Replay of Our Most Popular Episode of 2025!)
We are ending 2025 by replaying our most popular episode in 2025! Lucy and Sam explore the challenges and joys of parenting, career paths, and personal growth. They discuss their experiences as mothers, the struggles of sleep deprivation, and their individual career paths. The conversation also delves into reflections on age, aspirations for their children, and the balance between work and family life. With humor and vulnerability, they share insights on self-care and the journey of motherhood, ultimately encouraging each other to embrace their paths and inspire their [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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The 2025 Playbook: The Best Advice We Heard this Year
Join hosts Lucy and Sam in a special compilation episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead." As they wrap up 2025, they share a collection of the best insights, mom hacks, and life advice from their amazing guests throughout the year. From nutrition tips to balancing career and family, this episode is packed with practical advice and heartfelt stories. Tune in for a dose of inspiration as you set your goals for [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Making “Popular” Look Easy with Ginna Claire Mason
In this episode, join hosts Lucy and Sam as they sit down with Broadway star Ginna Claire Mason. Dive into Ginna Claire’s journey from her childhood dreams to the bright lights of Broadway, and discover how she balances her thriving career with motherhood. From hilarious backstage stories to heartfelt discussions on mom guilt and community, this episode is a delightful blend of laughter, inspiration, and real-life insights. Whether you're a theater enthusiast or a parent navigating the chaos of daily life, this conversation is sure to resonate. Tune in for a candid chat that celebrates the beauty of pursuing dreams while cherishing [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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The December Sprint
In this episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Lucy and Sam discuss the challenges of parenting during the holiday season, the mental load of organizing summer camps, and the joy of supporting their favorite sports teams. They share personal anecdotes about balancing family life, the importance of saying no, and the excitement of holiday preparations. The conversation is filled with humor, relatable experiences, and a reminder that it's okay to feel overwhelmed during this busy time of [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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The Kindy Cutoff Conundrum.
In this heartfelt episode, we dive into the unexpected challenges of parenting as we recount a day filled with tears and toothaches. We also delve into the topic of redshirting a kindergarten kid, discussing the pros and cons of delaying school entry for a year. Through these stories, we reflect on the unpredictable journey of parenting and the moments that test our patience and [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Off-Court: an NBA Coach's Wife's Story
In this engaging conversation, the Lucy and Sam explore the life of a coach's wife, discussing the challenges and rewards of managing family life with a traveling spouse. They delve into the importance of building a support system, navigating uncertainty, and the mental load of parenting. The discussion highlights personal experiences, career decisions, and the significance of community connections, providing valuable insights for listeners in similar situations. In this engaging conversation, Carol shares her experiences and insights on balancing family life with a career, particularly in the context of her husband's demanding job in the NBA. She discusses the challenges of parenting through different stages, especially during high school, and reflects on the worries that come with raising children. The conversation also touches on the importance of self-care, communication, and the evolving nature of motherhood as children grow older. Carol emphasizes the need to not sweat the small stuff and to focus on what truly matters in [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Welp…That Was The Week from Hell
In this episode, Sam and Lucy share personal stories about the challenges of parenting, the importance of community support, and the unexpected adventures that come with motherhood. From marathon experiences to dealing with a child's breath-holding incidents, they highlight the significance of accepting help and building a supportive [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Inside the Business of Luxury Weddings with Misse Daniel
In this episode Sam and Lucy welcome Misse Daniel, the founder of Honey Bee Weddings in Chicago. Misse shares her journey from consulting to becoming a successful wedding planner, balancing her career with motherhood, and her innovative approach to sustainable luxury weddings. Tune in to hear about the challenges and triumphs of running a business, the importance of family time, and the evolving trends in the wedding industry. Plus, get inspired by Misse's hustle and her commitment to making a positive impact.Email us! [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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From Bagels to Brooklyn: A Marathon Journey
Join Samantha and Lucy as they dive into the world of marathon training, from the challenges of carb loading to the excitement of running through the vibrant streets of New York City. Discover the hilarious moments of running without headphones, the emotional journey of preparing for a big race, and the unique Halloween traditions in Brooklyn. Whether you're a seasoned runner or just love a good story, this episode is packed with laughter, insights, and [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Founder of The Looky Lou - Kaitlyn Trabucco
In this episode, Kaitlyn Trabucco shares her journey from corporate America to entrepreneurship, highlighting the pivotal moment when she was laid off shortly after her 40th birthday. She discusses the creation of Looky Lou, a product inspired by her experiences as a mother, and the challenges and joys of balancing a startup with family life. The conversation delves into the importance of authenticity in social media, the value of rest, and the evolving nature of work-life balance. Kaitlyn's story is one of resilience, creativity, and embracing new opportunities with confidence.The Looky Lou TheLookyLou AND on AmazonFind us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes!
In this engaging episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Lucy and Sam dive into the ups and downs of family life, focusing on their personal experiences with au pairs. They share candid stories about the challenges and joys of integrating an au pair into their households, offering insights into how this decision has impacted their family dynamics. Tune in for a heartfelt discussion that explores the balance of parenting, the importance of support, and the unique journey of raising children with a little extra [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Scene Change: From Child Actor to Corporate Law
In this conversation, we have our second guest Rosemary Morgan. Lucy and Sam discusses the importance of embracing non-linear career paths with Rosemary, highlighting how diverse experiences contribute to personal and professional growth. They explore the angst surrounding traditional career trajectories and celebrate the value of unique [email protected] us: Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Childcare: The Good, the Bad, but Mainly the Ugly.
In this conversation, Lucy and Sam discuss the challenges of finding reliable childcare and the disparity between expectations and reality in parenting support. They share personal anecdotes about their experiences with nannies and the struggles that come with balancing work and family life.Calico Critters AmazonCharlotte Tilbury Powder AmazonFind us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Advice to My Younger Self
In this episode, Lucy and Sam discuss the challenges of balancing parenting with personal goals, including running and social activities. They reflect on their experiences as stay-at-home moms, the expectations placed on them, and the guilt that often accompanies motherhood. The conversation shifts to the importance of self-care, the value of taking risks in one's career, and the lessons learned from past choices. They also touch on the significance of travel and trying new things, as well as the feedback received from listeners about the podcast. Ultimately, the episode emphasizes the journey of motherhood and the importance of embracing change and growth.Find us on InstagramFind us on tiktokyoutube @WSWWD
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Dr. Sarah Pollock - Balance is out, Integration is in.
In this engaging conversation, the hosts Lucy and Sam welcome their first guest, Dr. Sarah Pollock, an OBGYN and mother. They discuss the challenges of balancing work and motherhood and the importance of support systems. Dr. Pollock shares her insights on the right time to have children, navigating pregnancy as a doctor, and managing mom guilt. The conversation also touches on non-negotiables for well-being, the importance of sleep, and unique family sleeping arrangements. The episode concludes with fun rapid-fire questions and recommendations for wellness.
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Mom Guilt For One, Please
In this engaging conversation, Lucy and Sam reconnect after a long time apart, discussing their experiences as mothers and the challenges they face in balancing work and personal life. They delve into the concept of 'mom guilt,' exploring how it manifests differently for each of them. The discussion also touches on time management, the importance of self-care, and the evolution of their feelings about motherhood as their children grow older. They share personal anecdotes, insights on productivity, and even recommend products that help them in their daily lives. The conversation is both relatable and insightful, offering a glimpse into the complexities of modern motherhood.
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We Survived Summer (Barely)
In this episode, Sam and Lucy discuss the challenges and joys of parenting during the summer and the transition back to school. They share personal experiences related to hair maintenance, the emotional rollercoaster of back-to-school, and the social dynamics that come with kindergarten. The conversation highlights the importance of real talk about parenting struggles, the balance between work and home life, and the need for self-care. They reflect on their summer experiences and the expectations they have as mothers, ultimately emphasizing the shared journey of motherhood.
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It’s Complicated: Navigating Adult Friendships
In this episode, Sam and Lucy explore the complexities of motherhood, work-life balance, and the dynamics of adult friendships. They discuss the challenges of managing time and energy while nurturing relationships, the societal pressures faced by women, and the importance of connection in their lives. The dialogue reflects on personal experiences, the evolution of friendships, and the shared journey of motherhood, emphasizing the need for understanding and support among women.
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This Is How It Was Meant To Be
In this engaging conversation, Lucy and Sam reconnect and discuss their journey into motherhood, the challenges they face, and the emotional rollercoaster of pregnancy and miscarriage. They share personal anecdotes about sleep deprivation, the realities of parenting, and the decision-making process regarding family expansion. The podcast serves as a platform for them to explore the highs and lows of motherhood while connecting with their audience
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From Career to Stay at Home Mom
Lucy and Sam explore the challenges and joys of parenting, career paths, and personal growth. They discuss their experiences as mothers, the struggles of sleep deprivation, and their individual career paths. The conversation also delves into reflections on age, aspirations for their children, and the balance between work and family life. With humor and vulnerability, they share insights on self-care and the journey of motherhood, ultimately encouraging each other to embrace their paths and inspire their kids.
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We did it. Episode One!
In this inaugural episode of 'We'll Sleep When We're Dead,' hosts Samantha and Lucy introduce themselves and share their unique journeys through motherhood. They discuss the challenges and joys of being a mom, the contrasting lifestyles of stay-at-home and working mothers, and the mental load that comes with parenting. The conversation highlights the importance of self-care and the need for a supportive community among mothers. With a promise of exciting topics ahead, the hosts aim to create a safe space for candid discussions about the realities of motherhood.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
We'll Sleep When We're Dead is the motherhood podcast for moms who want the group chat they never had — real talk, relatable stories, and the comfort of knowing someone else feels it too. Hosted by two best friends navigating modern motherhood from different angles: one a stay-at-home mom in NYC, the other a working mom balancing career and family life.This is the podcast for moms who want honest, funny, and unfiltered conversations about the messy sides of motherhood that everyone thinks but rarely says out loud. From the mental load to marriage, ambition to identity — we go there.New episodes weekly. Follow us @wswwdpod on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.
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