Where Are You From? A TCK Podcast

In this part of the conversation, Chika discusses her shift from mainstream journalism to founding Zikora Media and Arts, an organization aimed at presenting complex, authentic African narratives. Motivated by a desire to move beyond the stereotypical portrayals often found in traditional media, Chika established Zikora as both a media production company and cultural institution. Its projects, such as Diaspora Magazine, offer Africans living abroad a platform to share personal stories on diverse themes, from facing racism to preserving cultural identity. Chika supports contributors throughout the writing process, helping them shape these narratives with an emphasis on the full human experience, both struggles and joys. Mike, inspired by Chika’s work, expresses his own vision for a project focused on the Pacific Islands. His aim is to build a platform that fosters deeper understanding of the region's unique post-colonial realities and cultural resilience. Both Chika and Mike acknowledge that colonial history cannot be separated from present-day narratives; rather, they seek to explore this complex legacy with nuance. Their projects reflect a form of cultural entrepreneurship that amplifies local voices and honors the intricate connections between historical influences and current identities in Africa and the Pacific. Intriqued by Chika's work? Find out more here: https://www.zikoramedia.com/ Interested in what else Mike is up to? Find it here: https://sullyworks.com/

Chika Oduah was awarded the CNN Multichoice African Journalist Award in 2016 and named Trust Women Journalist of the Year by the Thomson Reuters Foundation. She is the founder of Zikora Media & Arts, a media production company and cultural institution dedicated to illuminating the Pan-African experience. Her accolades started rolling in when she became the investigative journalist of Boko Haram. 5:00 - Mike and Chika dive into the “ridiculous question” she and most of his guests often face as a Nigerian American and how her family came to the U.S. 6:30 - Chika shares what it was like growing up in an African American community as a Nigerian family. 11:30 - Being an introvert and finding her way into becoming a world reknown journalist. 13:30 - Her journey into journalism. 16:00 - Chika’s accolades and recognition began after she left the U.S. for Africa, where she became a leading reporter on the emergence of Boko Haram, particularly after her on-the-ground reporting in Chibok following the kidnapping of the schoolgirls. 19:15 - Reflecting on her commitment to illuminate the realities of Africa for the Western world. 22:00 - Mike and Chika delve into the complex experience of being an immigrant from Africa, including her interactions with the African American/Black community. 23:00 - Chika’s commitment to bridging cultural divides with empathy. 26:29 - Expounding on the challenges and dynamics of being a minority and the impact this has on lives. 29:00 - Mike reflects on his own heritage and the lasting effects of colonialism on his roots, leading to the discovery of one of Chika’s childhood fascinations. Mike's book, Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World, is out!! Get your copy! It comes with a ton of perks .. the digital and audio experience, and much more to follow. Don't hesitate! Get it today! https://sullyworks.com/ Want to connect with Chika? Look no further! https://www.zikoramedia.com/

Welcome to the final episode of the Building Bridges Unscripted series! Mike pulls back the curtain, giving listeners an inside look at the journey of being an indie author and publisher. From his typesetter who donned a Superman cape to meet the deadline, to the predictably "helpful" feedback from his editor, Mike shares it all—including a few words about Taylor Swift, who just might come knocking for royalties after being quoted in the book! If you’d like a copy of Mike's book, head over to his Shopify site. Enjoy FREE global shipping, plus his MasterClass (launching in November) included at no extra cost! https://sullyworks.com/ https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

You can reach out to Mike here: https://sullyworks.com/ Mike gives some life updates for everyone. One ridiculous question has been, "When will your book come out, Mike?" He then breaks down the principles that help us love and relate in a polarized world--principles that are teased out at the end of the book where Mike challenges his audience through questions that push those who are still reading to try them out in their own lives. Get the Building Bridges MasterClass for FREE if you preorder the book before it launches!! Check out my Shopify site here: https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

Mike is in the middle of his mini-series called Building Bridges Unscripted, where he takes you behind the scenes of writing his book. In this episode, he discusses providing song lyrics at the beginning of each part and chapter to deepen the book's intrigue and plotlines. He also talks about how his writing has changed and the challenge to rewrite things that were written timidly, exposing his shame over his past. Finally, he admits that he is running out of things to talk about and he probably needs next week to finish. Preorders are STILL available! My Building Bridges MasterClass and global shipping are FREE with preorders, so go to my Shopify site here and preorder today! https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

Mike is discovering how long it takes to weave through his book to make sure it meets the proper criteria he has set to give the 75,000 words continuity and clarity. He discusses fact-checking and how much it matters to have history, culture, language, and people's personal stories correct. He talks about the difficulty in deciding what parts of other people's journeys he's allowed to include without directly asking them. The book is still available for preorder, and if you preorder today, you can get his MasterClass for FREE. Don't wait—the book will be out very, very soon. https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

2:00 Mike is in the throws of finishing his first indie published book and is doing a mini-series titled, Building Bridges Unscripted to bring his audience along on the journey. 3:50 Mike discovers his voice for the book and it isn’t represented in what a lot of the content he wrote. He had to cut out and add a lot, pushing the publishing date back. 6:00 He injects abit of soapboxing in the falling action and wrapping up of the book, and discusses how fear can manifest in some very destructive ways. 9:45 Mike talks about some of the confessions in the book. They expose Mike a bit, and he discusses some of them, and the risks associated with coughing them up for the world to read. 17:35 Mike talks about future books but acknowledges that he needs to finish this one first.  Mike’s Building Bridges MasterClass is FREE for those peoplwho preorder the book on his Shopify site. Get it now, as the publishing date is imminent! https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

3:00 Showing vs. Telling in Writing Your voice and story are worth sharing! Learn how to show, not just tell, to create a deeper impact with your writing. 7:50 Fact-Checking & Reliving Stories Fact-checking with others and revisiting the details has been an emotional journey. It can be therapeutic, but it also requires a bit of boldness to believe our stories are worth telling. 10:00 Personal Experiences and Character Depth Mike shares his jail experience, his wife’s family background, and her personal journey. These reflections deepen the character portrayals and elevate the story’s climax. Together, Mike and his wife, Jen, explore her past trauma, discovering a pathway to healing through the book’s creation. 13:50 Family Bonds in Tough Circumstances “Blood is thicker than water” holds true in impoverished parts of the world. Discover why by reading my book! 16:40 A New Reason to Be Home As Mike finishes the book, he uncovers another powerful reason to be back home in the Philippines with his family. Get access to Mike's FREE MasterClass by pre-purchasing his book on Shopify here! https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

In this episode, Mike opens up about the process of writing the book. For those of you curious about its creation or are considering putting together your own independently published work, this one is for you! (2:25) Mike talks about the conception of the book’s content, audience, and community that helped him get there. (9:00) Mike briefly talks about the difference between being an indie author and other options working with traditional or hybrid publishers. He talks about the technology these days that has allowed indie authors to flourish. He talks about the strategy that he will employ to get his book out into the world. (14:30) Mike gives some tips on surviving the writing process and some of the things he had to overcome to get to this point in the process (It’s almost done!!!) It’s advice for all creatives to overcome their fear of rejection! If you want to get the most value when purchasing ‘Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World?’ jump on to Mike’s Shopify Store and prepurchase the book before the publishing date! Don’t delay!! https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

(1:30) Mike breaks down religion in his book. He talks about ‘bad’ religion, the failures he’s witness throughout his lifetime in Christianity. He reveals why he hasn’t given up his core beliefs as a Christian, and what that journey looked like.  (11:00) He gets into the weeds on one of his church experiences while he was in the Navy stationed in Norfolk, Virginia and the concerns he has for religion in general looking back on it. My book!! ‘Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World?’ You can preorder it here! Get my MasterClass for FREE!! https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

2:30 – Mike opens up about his struggle with patriotism and the impact of 9/11. He reflects on his rollercoaster Navy career and his feelings about the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021. 13:00 – In the second half, Mike discusses race. On the anniversary of Tupac Shakur's death—the West Coast rapper shot in a drive-by—he references Tupac’s song "Changes," which is quoted in his book, Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World?. Mike delves into his relationships with people in the Black community in the U.S. and the broader African diaspora, offering perspective on the challenges faced by Black individuals worldwide. Preorder my book and get my Building Bridges MasterClass for FREE! https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

Mike introduces a special series. His book, Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World?, will be published very soon. He's taking a short break from interviews, peeling back the cover, and providing raw, unscripted thoughts regarding the book's content. Today he talks about the different worlds he and his wife are from and the challenges it portends. Get His FREE MasterClass by preordering his book now on Shopify! https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

The side saga continues in the Philippines as Mike goes through a mini-repatriation nightmare with some surprising lessons revisited (00:00). Rajni and Mike talk dance (4:00). Mike opens up about his missed opportunity growing up. Rajni says that many in the industry forget the real joys of the art. “It might be as tiring as being a TCK and explaining where you are from?” (8:00) Their discussion transitions into what she is doing now with the hoop and her painful journey   (11:30).  “Don’t suffocate the child within.” (14:00) Rajni talks about her interaction with her family regarding her choice to dance (17:30). She talks about the critical voices around her in her art and her aspirations to support others in the community (20:00). Of course, Mike has to talk about his book (20:30) and the double-edged sword of technology. Meditation comes back into the picture again as well (24:00). The podcast ends with a story from her father about Indian society (27:00). Reach out to Mike Sullivan: https://sullyworks.com/

Every once in a while, Mike will bring on an avid listener to 'hang out' and talk about their TCK experience. Today's guest, Rajni Ramachandran, is the daughter of a diplomat and has an incredible journey. She delves into meditation and the secret of staying in one place for 18 years. Mike and Rajni find themselves on the outside in a movie discussion, ‘living under a rock’ (4:10).  Mike sheds his nerdiness to impress the ladies in junior high (8:00). (10:50) Mike asks the ridiculous question. Rajni says she’s from planet Earth. That’s a good start! :D Rajni is a diplomat kid who has been all over planet Earth. Mike and her compare revenge stories on their parents (12:00). Ranjni describes her 18 years in Delhi and her secret to not moving. (15:20) Mike asks about the discipline she has acquired in meditation. (16:50), and he discovers what meditation is not.  We talk about being an Indian TCK and a diplomat’s daughter, moving every three years. Food, accents, and doubting her own Indianess (23:00). The podcast has given Mike a new community that helps him understand our unique place (30:00).  “There’s like an inner voice that says, you know you’ve moved around enough, but you need to be here and possibly use those experiences you grew up with and help India a little bit in any way you can.” Rajni crashes the party a bit, bringing up (33:00) the reality of our loss as TCKs and our ‘silly dreams.’ She drops the mic on her way out and tells us what hope we have ‘beyond the labels.’ Of course you can find Mike on his website, here: https://sullyworks.com/

Mike is baaaack! Back Home, that is. He is in the Philippines with his super family. And back on to do some amazing episodes for Season 3. He updates everyone on his move from Türkiye to the Philippines and his plans for the future. Of course, his book will be published shortly. Mike raised $7000 on Kickstarter.com and is eternally grateful to those who supported him. If you aren’t one of those people but want to get on board and get his book, preorder it today and get 10% off and free access to his MasterClass. Mike talks about the agonizing decisions TCKs have to make when deciding what to pack and bring to their next location. It involves another suitcase debacle. He had the chance to meet two of his guests, Karina Lagarrigue and Angie Weinberger, at the SIETAR Congress in Lille, France, in June. Now home in the Philippines, Mike plans to pivot his English teaching career into intercultural work, providing research and media to help resolve conflict and improve cross-cultural dialogue. He has no plans to move and is looking for remote work to keep the lights on. BUY HIS BOOOK! FREE GLOBAL SHIPPING! https://sullyworks.com/ https://sullyworks.myshopify.com/

Marie talks about her book, 'Tales of a Diplomat's Daughter, and her passion about mental health. Her podcast 'Talks with a TCK Friend' is her first venture into providing a space for TCK's to talk about such issues. Mike believes being a diplomat is not for him (1:30). Marie pushes back a bit revealing more about her upbringing (2:17), and how diplomacy looks different for each country (4:30).  Mike asks about the expectations Marie was under being a diplomat's daughter (5:10). Marie divides it up into academic and diplomat family pressures. “If I don’t do ‘this’ Mom and Dad will be disappointed.” (8:00) (9:30) Marie recommends the book ‘The Emotionally Healthy Leader, by Peter Scazzero. Of course Mike talks about his book and his journey emotionally and his difficulty with transitions (11:20). He talks about the expectations he had growing as well as an MK. Marie also adds the religious dimension of the ’tyranny of expactions’ that we both grew up with. We get into the weeds a bit about the ‘Jesus’ we should see in the Bible as Christians (14:00). Mike segue’s into a discussion on (15:00) mental health and how the next generation's focus on it has been helpful for him. He wants Marie to talk about her apirations for the future in the mental healthy sector. Marie talks about what a shock it was to find out what mental health is and her journey in this regard. “Mental health is, in a nutshell, self-awarenes.”  (18:00)  It resonates with Mike, but in a different manifestation (21:00). Marie shares how her podcast (22:00) is her first venture into providing others with the knowledge that they are not alone in their mental healthy journeys as TCK’s. Listen to her podcast here. Please! I love it. Get excited! Marie’s writing another book! (27:00). A spoiler for my listeners! Marie’s final words are powerful. We are NOT alone and community is so, so important!   If you'd like to connect with Marie, find her book, or listen to her amazing podcast, the following links should get you there! ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5s0c69SlQLzJxBTm6jMJQB?si=3751d5c2f2244082⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/mariesuazoauthor/⁠ ⁠https://mariesuazoauthor.com/⁠ Mike Sullivan can be found here: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sullyworks/

Marie Suazo, Filipina by birth, author of Tales of a Diplomat's Daughter is the podcast host of Talks with a TCK Friend. Drop what you are doing and listen to her now. In this double set of episodes, they first discuss the ridiculous question and her adjustment to the Philippines. In this episode, they start off talking about the confidence Marie has developed in her journey to becoming a brilliant podcast host and voice for TCKs (3:10). They discuss whether or not they have a right as TCKs to complain (6:00) and coming from a different world. Of course Mike presses Marie to answer the ridiculous question (8:05) Marie pops off her long list of moves around the world with her family.  She talks about which country she relates to the most (9:25). Mike has some fondness for the same country as well. Fun fact. Lena Lee (author of Girl Uprooted) was on Marie’s podcast, two diplomat daughters comparing notes and books! (10:30). Be sure to check that out. Marie is now in the Philippines (12:00) and she AND Mike are figuring out what they are going to do next. Finally, Mike and Marie discuss the positives and negatives of being in the Philippines.(14:40). We get into traffic, ‘Bali-Bali’ culture, and classism in a post-colonial era. Stay tuned for the BONUS ROUND episode as we talk in depth about her journey as a diplomat's daughter and more. If you'd like to connect with Marie, find her book, or listen to her amazing podcast, the following links should get you there! https://open.spotify.com/show/5s0c69SlQLzJxBTm6jMJQB?si=3751d5c2f2244082 https://www.instagram.com/mariesuazoauthor/ https://mariesuazoauthor.com/ Mike Sullivan can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sullyworks/

Angie Weinberger is back to talk about her mission and more from her book!! She starts off with her mission and what she’s been accomplishing as a coach (2:50). She talks about the pain she has seen in the global mobility space. She talks about how she started her company (5:30), and provides an intercultural component to her coaching that is often missing alongside expats in their transition journey.  Mike asks about how the Rockme App has developed over its lifespan (8:00), and what its potential is in its current iteration. Angie lands Mike’s situation completely in describing (9:55) how her app helps bring much needed support to expats. Having a global reach provides her the ability to get others involved in the process.  They then talk about her recent book, the Rockstar Album  (15:20) that copmlements the Rockme App. She discusses the design of her book consisting of an interactive approach.  It was difficult but well worth the effort. Mike wants to know why Angie encourages vulnerabilityy (20:15) in her book, and how much we should share with others as coaches. She talks about how helpful vulnerability can be to build trust.  For those of you interested in using the app and navigating and interacting with the book  (25:50) to handle their own transition globally to a new situation, she provides a holistic model (28:40) to make it possible in a healthy and wholesome manner. There are an enormous amount of resources available as well on the side. If you want to find out more about Angie Weinberger or get a hold of the precious resources she provides click or cut n' paste the link below: https://globalpeopletransitions.com/ https://rockme.app/login https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01G28OZT0?ingress=0&visitId=2a8c99ef-c113-4a57-90d5-c2b6207e82fb Mike Sullivan's agenda these days is at the following: https://sullyworks.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/sullyworks/

Angie Weinberger is a Global Mobility Yoda, Expat Coach, and Author. She’s the Founder and Managing Director of Global People Transitions Ltd., Zurich, Switzerland. She is the progenitor of the RockMeApp, providing individual and group based coaching in the mobility space. She also lectures on global mobility and inclusive leadership competency. The podcast starts off with a bit of smalltalk about the amazing timing Angie has coming on to talk about mobility because Mike is leaving Türkiye (1:45) and knows he can find something wonderful. He opens up about some of his past trauma getting the way of decision making. “A lot of my clients are exactly where you are now, Mike.” (4:23) They discuss the expat hub that Switzerland is (6:00) and the fact that bankers are indeed human too. :D  Angie talks about some of her recent forays into academia (9:35), and expounds on the complexities of global mobility and building a proper policy around that. They finally get to the ridiculous question (13:15) and Angie has a unique start and finish to her global journey.  After 15 years Angie settles in Zurich (19:32), not far from a special place across the border. We also discover that Mike knows little about ‘Heidi’ in Switzerland and about Europe in general. Angie’s discussion of the outsourcing industry perks Mike’s curiosity as he considers his future options (20:00). They talk about how colonization has come full circle in some ways (22:00). Stay tuned for the second part of this splendid series to find out the nitty gritty of mobility and what Angie has been doing to help bring the human touch back into the process. We talk about her book as well. Lot’s more to come!! To find Angie Weinberger click or cut n' past the following link: https://globalpeopletransitions.com/ As promised Mike's book is in the following location: https://sullyworks.com/

"Nose Bleeeed! Where are you going to live??" Nikki shares about how her life is going to be pivoting, not only because she is getting married, but because her body is telling her, like it did 13 years ago. She is pivoting toward us! TCK’s! (2:15).  Nikki gets into the weeds of her impending marriage to ANOTHER TCK (8:00) Found out more about Nikke Muller through her website: https://www.nikki-muller.com/

Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World? LIVE! ON KICKSTARTER! Click or Cut & Paste: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/building-bridges/building-bridges-can-we-love-and-relate-in-a-polarized-world?ref=btdtzm Nikki Muller is a Swiss-Filipina. The combination of courage, heart, and cross-cultural awareness that hasn't melted in the spotlight, quite the opposite! She loves connecting with audiences worldwide whether it is a million people or 70 people .. or just us! At 15 she landed herself as a host on MTV Asia. At 20, nominated for "Best Entertainment Presenter" at the Asian Television Awards, going on to be nominated two more times. She has done amazing work for an endless string of globally recognized media outlets and companies such as CNN, National Geographic, and Fox Sports. She even cycled 6 countries along the Mekong Delta for Channel News Asia. She has pivoted her tremendous success towards TCK's. She has become a powerful advocate for research and support, and gladly as a TCK herself will take the stage on our behalf! Mike kicks things off by asking Nikki about her bachelorette party on a sail boat out in the middle of nowhere near Palawan (2:00). They then jump into the ridiculous question, and you might be surprised with Nikki’s answer (3:45). Let’s just say she has a bit of a dilemma when it comes to the World Cup. Don't we all? :D She discussed staying put in Singapore for 13 years, and the smaller changes she’s made to make it happen (7:00). This segues into how she ended up in Singapore to begin with (9:00). Mike wants to know what was one of the most meanful projects Nikki accomplished (16:30). During Wimbledon, one of her projects quite possibly saved a top tier athlete's life. Mike pivots suddenly towards Nikki’s work with live events (21:00) and Nikki’s comments about his wife, who is also a budding star as an events host star back home in the Philippines.  Considering the insurmoutable amount of success surrounding her, Mike suddenly wants to know if her ‘risky authenticity’ ever got the best of her (25:50). This conversation lands in my love language zone as Nikki drops the mic on the way out with words of affirmation (28:00). STAY TUNED for our BONUS ROUND with Nikki! You can find more on Nikki here on her website: https://www.nikki-muller.com/

Mike's Kickstarter Campaign is LIVE! Copy and paste or click the link! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/building-bridges/building-bridges-can-we-love-and-relate-in-a-polarized-world?ref=btdtzm Want to start a business? Be a self-made person on the move? Amel, in this episode, provides plenty of ammunication for those that are meant to. THE TIME IS NOW! Amel asks Mike a bit about his book. It is definitely about bridging gaps (0:25). There is nothing more Mike would like to talk about than his book. :D Mike and Amel get into Amel’s business rebrand ‘The Time is Now’. (3:45) The larger mission is about not delaying tackling the worlds most difficult issues (5:00). She breaks down the different ways she helps people based on the different stages they are in with their business (6:00). She helps empowered men too (8:45)! :D Mike then has Amel break down some advice for those contemplating whether or not the ‘time is now’ for them to start a business (11:30). This resonates with Mike as he is attempting to put his first published work into the world, and is fighting immense self doubt and perfectionism (14:20). Amel nails it down for many of TCK’s (16:00) in this regard. Amel adds on to Mike’s entrepeneurial failure story by talking about holding on to stories good and bad that might be holding us back (18:00). Don’t forget to check out resources from Amel (23:00) if you are thinking about moving forward with entrepreneurship on the go! Link is below! https://www.amelderragui.com/ Mike has to wrap things up because he has a bus to catch back to the earthquake zone for the first time to honor a friend who died with her daughter when their building collapsed last year. (23:30). 

MY KICKSTARTER CAMPAIGN IS LIVE! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/building-bridges/building-bridges-can-we-love-and-relate-in-a-polarized-world?ref=btdtzm Amel Derragui is an entrepreneur, marketing coach, community builder, speaker, podcast host at The Time Is Now and founder of Tandem Nomads. Originally from Algeria, born in India and raised across 3 continents. She identifies as a global citizen and has been active in the world of social entrepreneurship since the age of 14. Through her business she has helped hundreds of solopreneurs and small business owners across six continents. She has spoken on international stages and for organizations such as the IMF and the World Food Program on topics related to entrepreneurship and women empowerment. You can find Amel’s work featured everywhere including Forbes Magazine. We jump right into the ridiculous questions (3:00). Of course it is difficult for Amel to answer, but she finally feels at home somewhere (6:00). Amel turns the conversation in an interesting direction regarding ‘expats’ and who is and isn’t one (7:45). She started an initiative where she’s at that reflect having global mindedness. About the term ‘expat’ .. Amel has some poignant things to say about what she has observed in expat communities around the globe (9:00), that is spot on and part of a status quo that needs to change. Mike drops a lengthy ad in the middle supporting his current Kickstarter campaing for his book Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World? (15:50) Amel and Mike continue (17:20) to discuss the awkward dynamics of a world dominated by white men and how it is possible for that to change, where empowerment is broader and more diverse. This segues into (19:00) Amel’s journey as a businesswoman, starting at 14! She saw a tremendous need among many expat spouses to have a portable business (22:40) with Tamdem Nomads that has recently rebranded. Stay tuned to find out more in our bonus segment.  You can find Amel here on her website! https://www.amelderragui.com/

Coming from the most entrepreneurial continent on the planet, Steven Adjei brought this spirit from his birthplace, Ghana. Overcoming hardships, people have to find ways to make things work.  Mike asks Steven about his best selling book ‘Pay the Price’ and Steven talks about how the reality he knew of for most people was not the ‘reality’ he read in books at one of the most prestigious business schools in the world (2:20). He knew he needed to write about his story and more.  Everything looked good on paper for him, but 250+ rejections later and then what did he do? He get’s into the three phases of being an entrepreneur (8:15). Each phase is an important part of growing a successful business. He color codes the different types of pain one faces in the second phase of an entrepreneurial journey (10:00). They all demand different responses. For American’s listening 'amber' is yellow, by the way. (ohhhh .. the Brits) :D (12:20).   Steven’s struggle with epilepsy (white flag pain) became the inspiration to write his book (16:40). Steven’s struggles really resonate with Mike as he soon publishes his story and opens up about similarly sensitive and personal ‘red flag’ issues in his own life (20:00). Steven adds examples of prominent people who have fallen from grace because of not dealing with the red flag pains in their lives (22:00). They pivot to talk about Steven’s children for a moment, (22:20) always of constant interest to Mike who loves the next generation so much. Steven’s final remarks should be an encouragement  to any TCK and others coming from another country wanting to make a difference in “someone else’s” world (24:45).  You can find Steven Adjai on his website here: https://www.stevenadjei.com/ Mike's Kickstarter Campaign!! Here's the link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/building-bridges/building-bridges-can-we-love-and-relate-in-a-polarized-world

Steven Adjei is an award winning, #1 international best selling author with his book ‘Pay the Price: Creating Ethical Entrepreneurship Through Passion, Pain, and Purpose. He is the founding partner of both Blue Cloud Health and a million-dollar strategy and consultancy firm, The Strategy Boutique and has been a judge for some of the UK’s most prestigious business awards. Mike asks Steven the ridiculous question (3:10) and Steven, like the rest of us, is stuck between worlds. Not so much in London (5:40), though a cosmopolitan city. Steven talks about his transition to Plymouth, a town that was at the time, 99% white. He discusses too how he met his non-TCK spouse and a bit of their journey assimilating together (8:40) in Plymouth. Mike has a compliment for people like her who manage the transition (9:26) well. Mike asks more about the racial disparity in Plymouth and the impact that had on them (11:10) when they first moved there.  Steven discusses the details and after 2 or 3 years how things began to change. Mike talks about his upcoming book (of course!), and (16:00) asks Steven what we should do in response to racism and polarization. His answer may suprise you. He tells a humorous altercation at birthday party that spells out some of the cultural divides that existed (16:40). Mike has a few stories as well, reflecting on the diversity of honor culture in various places. If you are curious about Steven's accolades or need a professional mentor in the enrepreneurial space please check out his website here: https://www.stevenadjei.com/ Feel free to reach out to Mike the host as well here on his website to find out where his book launch is at: https://sullyworks.com/

Mike and Sherif cover a lot more ground in this bonus episode. Sherif talks about his Fellowship in Mongolia and his hope to become a global nomad. Mike talks about why Sherif may be a better English teacher BECAUSE it isn’t his first language. They talk about the collective conscious as well again to wrap things up! Mike asks Sherif about how his cross-cultural background aids his efforts in teaching English abroad (1:40) and they get into the benefits of having learned the language as a second language has in teaching it. Mike stops himself from waxing on too long, and wants to know what Sherif will be doing after his Fellowship. Sherif’s inspiration comes from his time in the countryside Mongolia (5:50). In the process of discussing nomads, Sherif’s marital status comes in from left field (10:45). Mike has some ‘soapbox’ comments about that as well. He gets into what breakups look like around the world. :D  Of course Mike brings his book back into the discussion (15:30), because he wants Sherif to talk more about individual and collective egos.  He really expounds on the value of growing self-aware, especially through experiencing other cultures (21:00). Sherif’s comments about fear really resonate with Mike because its something he addresses in his book (25:00). Sherif brings it home matching it up with the current regional conflict with the Palestinians and Israel to wrap things up (27:30). If you are interested in becoming a Fellow in the English Language Program be sure to check it out here! Of course updates on Mike's book can be optained here on his website: https://sullyworks.com/

Sherif was born in Saudi Arabia to Egyptian parents, grew up in Egypt and migrated to the U.S. Like Mike's previous guest Claire and himself, Sherif currently serves as an English Language Fellow, but with the U.S. Embassy in Mongolia. Who is a first generation immigrant? The discussion is never settled on this podcast. :D (3:30). Mike asks the ridiculous question .. (4:20)  Mike and Sherif discuss the Arab world (8:10) and recent geopolitical events, and their impact on Sherif.  Why don’t we hear the good things about 'them' (9:20)? How many of our assumption about ‘them’ are wrong (11:25)?   Mike stumbles over Egypt a bit, thankful for Sherif’s graciousness (16:00). He talks about the challenges becoming an American (17:00) and no longer quite fitting in at home in Egypt or the US (18:50), something all TCK can easily relate to. He also throws out a Netflix recommendation for those curious about Arab Americans. He gets into some of his dating challenges as well (21:45).  This segues into talking again about names. Mike admits his fantasy one more time of getting President Obama on his podcast, and Sherif explains his last name and the linguistics around it (23:00). Finally, to wrap up the first part of the interview, Mike’s curiousity grows in how Sherif got into English teaching, as both of them are Fellows in the same program (26:00).

Yep .. that's right. We have our BONUS round with Claire Lee! We had a tremendous discussion about her working in Japan as a Korean American. So many threads of wisdom come out of this conversation about what is necessary to build bridges with others and mend generational misgivings between two nations. Mike asks Claire how her Korean upbringing has helped her forge bonds and perpetuate her work as a goodwill ambassador in Japan (3:40). She provides a splendid example of the importance of her Korean identity. She talks about the community aspects of Japanese and Korean cultures (6:00). She talks about her family’s view of Japan and how her time in Japan has informed her of the Japanese view of Korea, despite the often misgivings of Koreans toward Japan because of the Japanese colonization period. Claire talks about her own family and the tensions they’ve had about Japan (7:54), and experiences with the Korean community in Tokyo. Mike then tells one of his favorite experiences meeting a Japanese man in Korea with a very interesting occupation (11:16). Claire then talks about a project she has interacted with that brings folks from both countries together in a very special way (15:20). Mike of course gets the opportunity to one more get a plug in for his book (17:40).  They then get into a discussion of Korea’s progress as a nation (18:00), along with Mike’s time with Hyundai, the worlds 5th largest automaker. It tumples down the feminism trail (21:00) and an inside look at the changes Korea is experiencing in that regard. Mike even drops a Barbie Movie ref in the middle (23:00 ). They end challenging America’s norms and admitting we have a lot of growth necessary as a country (23:50). BUILDING BRIDGES!! If you are interested in Mike's book launch be for to go to his website and signup to get inside info on the Kickstarter Campaign coming very, very soon. Rewards mentioned in this episode will be available to see shortly. Get on the mailing list to get the link and get excited!! https://sullyworks.com/

Claire Lee is a Fellow, like the host, Mike Sullivan, in the prestigious English Language Program, sponsored by the US Department of State. She is working with the US Embassy in Tokyo, Japan .. they talk a bit about her Fellowship in the podcast. She is a former Fulbright ETA Scholar, graduate of the #1 all girls school in the US, Wellesley College, and has her Masters of Education at Harvard University. They talk about that as well--Being Korean American at a university embroiled in the affirmative action debate around their discrimination against Asian applicants. In part 1 of 2, they start off talking about Mike’s Midyear conference in Georgia (the country!) and his language imperialism slide in his presentation (2:20) and (4:40) toilet culture, OF COURSE!! With some more small talk about work weeks (7:20), they then get into Claire’s background as a Korean American, and Mike of course asks the ridiculous question (12:35). 'Have you embraced BTS at all (14:45)?' Mike asks about her almater, Harvard and their case in the Supreme Court regarding implicit bias against Asian Americans (16:25). She speaks of one encounter at grad school with a former admissions staff member said volumes about the issue (19:00). They dive into the cultural elements of perfection in Korean and Japanese societies (21:00). Claire independently confirms one of Mike’s biggest pet peeves about the term ‘Asian-American’. They pivot into all the amazing work Claire is doing on behalf of their Fellowship with the US Department of State (24:45), with some insider sightseeing advice with it. She talks about the challenges and rewards that have come with it (27:35). They both agree that they have received so much from the professionals around them in their respective countries (32:00). 

Welcome back to the BONUS round with Sarah Siegert. They get into the gritty details of successfully and intentionally building legit friendships. They talk about one of our favorite topics as TCK’s .. people pleasing and rejection. Thanks as always for listening in! Mike asks Sarah about a recent Telagraph article that she collaborated on about how people in mid-life can make new friends (1:10). She talks about the similar opportunity people at mid-life and expats have (4:00) and the ‘self-awareness’ necessary (5:30) and how coaches push that process forward. Change is not an enemy (8:00). How do people take actions? What steps do we take? (9:10) People pleasing is not one of them (12:00) :D. Mike provides a  diatrib on his difficulties as a people pleasing TCK. Sarah unearths shattering news for us :D. We are on a journey as TCK’s forming boundaries (18:40), and Sarah weighs in on just being human, and we, TCK’s are indeed human, and our search is universal. What she says we need to focus on is paramount (23:00) to our ability to connect. Mike talks about his own struggle in this regard (25:00). Mike wants to know how we can be more intentional (26:40), Going beyond, “that’s it”. Learn how YOU can get help from Sarah (32:35). Sarah can specifically help someone interested in her coaching regime. She’s willing to work with anyone around the world. Connect with her with the following links: My Instagram and Linkedin My online course The perfect match - find your perfect match in 4 weeks My freebie Connection Compass - best places to find your perfect match

This is part 1 of 2 with Sarah Siegert. Sarah Siegert is an expert friendship coach for expats, and recent speaker at the Expat Women’s Conference. I believe she is handling the challenge of this era .. loneliness. What’s new with Sarah? (4:40). She spills the beans on an exciting new chapter of her life. Mike had an underwhelming Winter himself (5:40). They get into the 'Ridiculous Question' of course (8:05) and what compelled her to move to London .. Was it love? Was it work? (11:40) “I didn’t think anything of it. I just went for it.” Sarah’s story resonates with Mike and his story as well. What made the difference for them (14:20)? Mike finds one more plug for his book :D (13:50).  Mike asks Sarah how her speaking engagement went at the Expat Women’s Summit (15:30). They get into her expertise by talking about the pros and cons of big city life and building friendships (18:40). This segues nicely into a discussion about Expats hanging out only with people in their own crowd and the frustration they have, which is what Sarah is all about solving. Stay tuned for Episode 46 .. Sarah's Bonus Round, as we get more in the weeds of the solutions to solve lonliness. You can contact Sarah through the following links: Her Instagram and Linkedin Her online course The perfect match - find your perfect match in 4 weeks Her freebie Connection Compass - best places to find your perfect match Mike's Book!! Click the link here!

There are reason why Mike keeps the record button pressed throughout his time with these amazing guests. There might be something that puts the cherry on the top of the ice cream sundae .. in this case .. quite a few cherries. Karina or should I say Kalimba, drops another treasure chest and talks about her real name and challenges growing up with it. There is definitely a multitude around the world that can relate! (2:00) Karina and Mike were all but done with their talk, when she divulged a personal story of her real name and the troubles that ensued as she navigated her TCK world. She shares  a stunning story that reveals how sad and broken our world is (5:00), and the demands people make in knowing why she has the name she has. She feels safe enough to unravel the mystery for listeners and talks about how parents should think about the impact it has on children when naming them (12:35). Mike tells his wife’s name story (17:00), and they trade a few more name stories and talk about how we feel safe among TCK’s where we accept all our odd names without judgment (20:30). Karina's services are available on her website here: https://expatworldpsychologist.com/en/home/ Mike can be contacted here, and would love it if you signe up to get access to early bird rewards on his Kickstarter campaign starting in less than a month: https://sullyworks.com/

In this episode, Karina Lagarrigue and I talk about sensory processing sensitivity and highly sensitive people. It's in her wheel house for sure and specifically the area of her recent research. Mike and Karina jump into the deep end on sensory processing sensitivity and highly sensitive people (2:40). Mike chastises himself for assuming it is a disorder or disease. Karina provides beautiful explanation of polarity in the field that exists and talks about the healthy place in the middle—That this can look very different from person to person (8:50). Mike tries to avoid soliciting any simplistic observations but looks for information helpful for teachers in the classroom to know if some children are highly sensitive. Karina talks about her own children as examples (12:00). Mike and Karina discuss her personal experiences as a highly sensitive person (19:30), and how she managed it growing up. This segues into the diversity among highly sensitive people depending on many factors such as extroversion, introversion, and the pension for thrill seeking (24:00) as an HSP. Mike talks about his own experience feeling like there was something wrong with him (27:24), and how its often a picture of society's view of the unique traits we have. Karina talks about the dehumanizing effects of labeling someone due to our complexities (29:45). Mike relates this to grading systems in the arts and how unimaginative it is to measure the heights students climb to overcome unique challenges for each of them (33:00).  Watch out on social media and Karina's websit for her workshop for Highly Sensitive TCK (34:30) with Michael Pollack coming out in April. Karina gives 3 pieces of advice (34:00) to parents. "We are not raising little clones of ourselves, we are raising human beings (39:55)." (40:20) The ‘museums’ .. Mike inquires about Karina’s involvement in designing spaces that contain a healthy amount of stimuli for all. Karina divulges that designing a space for highly sensitive people is good for everyone (44:00). You can connect with Karina here on her website: https://expatworldpsychologist.com/en/home/ You can find the test for SPS (sensory processing sensitivity) here on Dr. Elaine Aron's website: https://hsperson.com/ If you ARE a TCK and wondering if you have it Karina would greatly appreciate it if you could fill out this survey. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeCtUL5h_11s0Tm852vxWYpWEgzLTdPtkycfuMWun8qP6Fd0A/viewform Of course!! If you are interested in my book and want to get in on it early, PLEASE sign up on my website here: https://sullyworks.com/

Karina Lagarrigue graces the podcast in a 3 part series. She is a sexologist and couples therapist, mainly with expats and shares with us her journey toward her doctorate, her TCK experience, and the “dance”. Mike stumbles over another name .. :D (3:40). Karina discusses the final road she is on with her thesis and publishing her fascinating findings in a series of articles more palatable to the audience (3:50). Mike weighs in on the complexity of psychology and Karina responds with her experience in the field (7:30).  The ridiculous question of course is asked. It is as uncomfortable for Karina as it is for any of us (12:10). Mike gets into the weeds of asking about discrimination sounding like (17:25) the colonies rather than from Spain. He then starts to nerd out about what he’d like to study for his PhD (19:00). Karina shares how she became the “Dance Therapist”   (21:00) as a sexologist and couples therapist, helping them reconnect with their bodies. Mike (28:30) suddenly wonders about the gender dynamic with leading and its connection with ‘dance’ in the bedroom. Do we do what makes everyone else comfortable or ourselves? How does that work? Karina’s answer dives into their TCK upbringing and the dynamics around the expat parent’s lives and THEIR needs (30:30). Karina's website can be found here: https://expatworldpsychologist.com/en/home/ Don't forget to sign up to gain access to Mike's early bird rewards for his Kickstarter campaign for his book here: https://sullyworks.com/

Doreen has recently retired and rewired to Mexico but hasn't stopped. She is releasing her third book soon, and it has been amazing having the host of 'Nomadic Diaries' on the other side of the microphone. Glad to have her on the other side of the microphone. Doreen’s quest for coffee is a priority (3:00), and this spurs a conversation about the difficulty of getting Americans to imagine the rest of the world (4:00). Then suddenly, they discover an overlap in engagement ring stories (6:30).  The ridiculous question (8:00) gets an interesting reaction from Doreen. Mike asks Doreen for the “short” rundown and she gladly obliges to provide the two minute version of her amazing journey as an expat. Doreen mentions marrying a TCK, which prompts Mike to ask about his background (13:00), and finds out its it goes back much further. Doreen articulates the shift recently within the TCK community (14:20) to understand the difficulties of being a TCK, and how her daughter is actively overcoming them (17:30). Mike opens up about his ‘kryptonite’    as a TCK and a significant story from his book (18:45) that exemplifies our super weaknesses along with our super power. This provides a segue to Doreen’s upcoming book about repatriation (20:50) and the balancing act it becomes in fitting in and standing out. She talks about her own repatriation experiences (23:00), and corresponding advice. For example how do we  deal with estrangement (27:00)?  Mike talks about the possibility of repatriating back to the US (29:00), and his associated goals (32:00). Doreen drops more precious tips for those of us considering such a transition regarding bringing kids (35:00) and visioning with them (38:45) of what our future will look like. Doreen ends the podcast by leaving us with some final challenges for those of us in the global ‘heartedness web’ and the impact we can have to bring peace in this world (43:00). Check Doreen's stuff out here: Her books: Arriving Well Life in the Camel Lane Her Podcast: https://www.nomadicdiariespodcast.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doreenexpathub/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doreenmcumberford/ Of course if you are interested in connecting with Mike or supporting his book effort you can find it all here: https://sullyworks.com/

In this bonus round, Jacob introduces the five milestones of identity construction theory (5:30), which include a sense of stability, belonging, and direction. He also shares his project called 'Stuff,' which aims to collect stories about the mementos and objects that hold significance for TCKs (14:40). This triggers Mike to tears and he shares a story of loss and how Jacob and others have helped unravel the mystery of his emotional baggage around lossing a seemlingly useless set of momentos in his life (18:15). Jacob formally invites Mike and others to share these stories (20:00), and multiple submission are welcome (23:35). Of course the link is here just below: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegv0BtIxt9dMiJ1TnODCxHrtbRnNEJ4RVm_6xqFQbGyqV8uw/viewform Feel free to reach out to Mike, the host of the podcast here: https://sullyworks.com/

Dr. Jacob Daniel Huff is a TCK researcher and career international school principal who shares with us, his TCK past and research into the world of TCK identity from from the perspective of international school educators. What's in a title? Mike and Jacob get into awkward titles we've come acrossed around the world and some of the ickiness involved in some of them (3:30). Mike spends some time discussing Jacob as a bit of a unicorn on the podcast and why (10:00). Jacob then answers the ridiculous question giving us a rich backstory between two different worlds, one in the farmlands of Kansas and then in the densely populated cities of Vietnam (16:30). It covers his time as an "international" teen in Hanoi and his return to Vietnam as a young adult where he meets his Korean wife. They are currently in Kansas (22:00), raising a TCK who has forgotten more languages than most people will ever learn. They dive into his research starting with his connection with Dr. Lijadi and her work in idenity formation, and his time as FIGT's David C. Pollock Scholar (25:30). They spent the most time discussing the suprising outcome of his research in regards to inclusion. He talks about the challenges in a post colonial age in international eduation when it comes staff diversity vs. student diversity (37:00). Mike challenges this with the idea that parents are often guilty of pushing these uninclusive norms along (39:00). Dr. Huff finishes up by suggesting that this is a cop out for administrators and lists a number of important steps needed to create a more inclusive internation education system (40:00). Stay tuned for the BONUS round! You can connect with Dr. Daniel Huff here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-daniel-huff/ You can connect with Mike Sullivan and/or sign up to support his upcoming book here: https://sullyworks.com/

This episode is a 'catch his breath' episode as Mike wrangles with the stress of life stacking up on his behalf. This is a recorded episoded from November that was supposed to be a replacement episode but was never aired. In perspective of America's upcoming election it is always healthy to see how elections are run in other countries. Jen has always provided her husband, Mike with a tangible dose of the reality she and her family have lived their whole lives. In the episode you get to hear a bit of their personal lives, values, along with a thorough destription of what politics are like in the Philippines. That might give Americans a sense of calm knowing they are much more broken elsewhere .. or a sense of urgency to restore the stability they have enjoyed for 200 years. Happy Valentine's Day! If you want to connect with Mike you find him through his books website and clicking on the contact links at the top: https://sullyworks.com/

Andrea is a certified teen girls coach who works with primarily 11 to young adult girls of expats in 3 languages. She starts out the podcast by taking a swipe at Apple products. It's ok. They don't sponsor the podcast .. yet (3:00). Mike adds an anecdotal daughter story involving another Apple product. Maybe they should sponsor the podcast. Andrea answers the ridiculous question (6:00), and how she grew her wings and the expat journey that ensued and continues. Mike of course figures out a way to tell a sea story from his Navy days in Mallorca, Spain (10:30), and slips in mentioning his upcoming book as well .. twice! (11:20/13:00). If you are suddenly curious you can find out more about it here: https://sullyworks.com/ The conversation moves into the central theme of the podcast and that is the difficult decision they had to make for their daughter, Jessica (13:15). Jessica drops a bombshell solution of going to boarding school (17:00). Andrea delves into her reservations (18:00) and the experience looking for a boarding school they were comfortable with (20:00). She shares the challenges and adjustments Jessica had to make (22:00), and how Jessica surived the adaptation rollercoaster one more time. The discussion moves into how all these experiences raising a daughter helped Andrea perpetuate a coaching career specializing in working with teen girls (22:25). Mike and Andrea really overlap in their gifts building trust with teens and young adults (28:00), and how their cross-cultural contexts in ESL lended to this direction for both of them. She rounds out a wonderful discussion giving advice to parents sending their kids to boarding school (34:40) and it bunny trails into both of them talking about how they apply that advice in their own lives with their kids and parents (37:00). Finally she offers the specific resources she provides her clients (40:20). Definitely reach out to her if you are looking for support for your precious teenager. It's a challenging time in their life!! These are the places you can find Andrea: Website: https://www.globalgirlcoach.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/globalgirlcoach/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-schmitt-lozano-she-her-2527451a1/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=globalgirlcoach

Dr. Ruth Van Reken shares why she resonates with Mike's book title .. Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World? She also talks about SPAN (Safe Passage Across Networks). She talks of the commonalities, not the difference that give TCK's an edge in a diverse world (1:30). She talks of the world's toxic comfort in a 'negative identity' .. defining ourselves of who we are not (5:00). Mike of course brings up his book that comes out later this year, 'Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World?' (5:50). Ruth answers with her own background growing up 'Among Worlds' that spanned cuultuures and socio economic boundaries (7:35). Ruth talks about the power of listening and understanding, knowing that people we are talking to didn't grow up the way we did (9:10). Mike says that people CAN change and adapt to others. He points to his parents as models (10:00). They talk about privilege and how that creates a gap between us and others, as well meaning and broad as our experiences, we often don't get treated the same. Some of us simply had more (11:30). 'We aren't as global as we think we are.' (13:40) She talks about a valuable experience of suddenly being the odd one out (15:00), as others around her were 'having a ball' (16:27) in a language she didn't know. Mike rounds this discussion out (18:00) mentioning the education he has received from the love of his life, and how important that has been to see the gap between them on socio-economic terms. Ruth adds that it is abouut 'seeing others as human (20:00) because of proximity. TCK's often bring that valuable experience tothe world. Finally, Mike asks Ruth to talk about SPAN (22:00), an organization started by Doug Ota. SPAN helps children transition across networks because of their familys' highly transient lives. It provides support for 'leavers' and 'stayers' alike. Dr. Ruth Van Reken loves watching people add to the work she has done (29:00), and how it is changing lives. You can discover more from Dr. Ruth Van Reken on her website here: https://www.crossculturalkid.org/ You can find Doug Ota's work here: https://www.spanschools.org/ Aaaand if you'd like to track down the host of this podcast, Mike Sullivan for any reason, please find him here: https://sullyworks.com/

Dr. Ruth Van Reken, co-author of Third Culture Kid: Growing Up Among Worlds, is arguably the biggest pioneer in working out the unique place we TCK's belong to in this world. Mike is still pinching himself to make sure this is really happening. They start off discussing dealing with timezones and the transition to virtual meetups (3:10). The interview starts with with her pegging Mike repeatledly with questions about his life (6:15). He tried to do a short take on it, but stumbled (9:15 :D) when she asked about what he will be doing in the future. They move on to talk about travel and aging with the paradoxes of living a full life when getting older (10:15). They trade quite a few stories about it all. Mike supplants the conversation with the work she's done over her full life, and she answers it with her vision that she feels she was called to manifest (20:00). Finally, she talks abouut how David Pollock's model is still intact but is more like a petri dish having added layers of complexity and uses Mike's kids as an example (23:00). Certainly stay tuned for more in the BONUS ROUND (Episode 36). Thanks for joining us. Of course you can find Dr. Ruth Van Reken's legacy on her website here: https://www.crossculturalkid.org/contact/ If you want to reach out to Mike Sullivan, the host of the podcast, by all means do it here: https://sullyworks.com/

Bonus round as Su talks about her capstone project design a space of safety and belonging for TCK's. Su gets into the details of her parent's reservations and support for her decision to become a designer (1:00). She definitely feels she's in the right place, but suddennly Mike wonders out loud if HE's in the right place (4:45). Su jumps into the ins and out of her capstone project and which demographic is more impacted, ATCK's or TCK's (9:00). Then they both explore what a place for TCK's should look like based on the research she has done (13:20), and the specific facets that facilitate belonging and safety (15:40). One of the highlights is how technology meets psychology helping TCK leave a mark of legacy in their transient lives (18:00). Mike of course has to slip in at least one comment about his upcoming book (19:30). Su talks about comment made in her research regarding saying goodbye and how it resonated with her (22:00). Finally, Mike asks his favorite question to the young guns, and Su gives a wonderful reply (27:00). If you'd like to find out more about what Mike Sullivan does or get in touch with him you can track him down here: https://sullyworks.com/

Suwade Pe Than is a 4th-year interior design student at the Savannah College of Art and Design. She is indeed, at the tail end of GenZ, Mike's favorite generation (5:18). He can't stop talking about them, in fact (11:15). Finally, he gets around to asking the Ridiculous Question (13:30). Su talks about her experience of local schools in Brunei and the huge transition to international school, the New York of Cultures (16:30) and how it prepared her for the college in the United States. We get into some of the challenges with living in the US (20:00), and broach one of Mike's favorite topics .. bathroom cultures and the arrogant assumption from some regarding this (17:30). We get into Su's preference with the name 'Burma' over Myanmar (22:00), and the implications it has for TCK's from there and the double identity issues they often have to deal with (25:00). Stay tuned for the BONUS episode (34) where Su will talk about her capstone project helping TCK's find belonging. You can get in touch with Mike Sullivan, the host of the podcast, and find out more about the book is publishing this year. https://sullyworks.com/

Megan Norton is celebrating a lot these days. Her book Belonging without Borders is celebrating its 1st anniversary. It was her birthday a couple days ago .. and it's Christmas today. Be sure to get yourself a signed copy before the end of the year! https://www.amazon.com/Belonging-Beyond-Borders-Culture-Cultivate-ebook/dp/B0BNLRZYL2?ref_=ast_author_mpb Megan and Mike talk about social media's impact on TCK's and the struggle to juggle sincerity in what we do (2:00). Mike comes clean about what he thinks is his ultimate purpose in this life (5:00). Megan explains FOMO to Gen Z and JOMO to all of us. Then of course the chameleon emerges from the bag of skittles (8:00), one of the best phrases Mike has ever heard to describe moments of paralysis in his life. Chapter 9 in Megan's book, really resonates with Mike and he talks about his journey to figure out his identity piece (10:25). Megan then has the chance to elaborate on the self reflection component of her book, which in Mike's opinion, makes it what a book should be, something we can continually go back to for reference. Curiousity, humility, and empathy .. a high bar Megan sets in her book while suggesting these don't break us or force us to change who we are (16:45). Mike, who is writing his book 'Building Bridges: Can We Love & Relate in a Polarized World?', is excited to hear how much they overlap in their messages. Megan fills out the last part of her book with a larger purpose ATCK's can fulfill by being 'bridge builders' in a world often filled with inequity and a lack of diversity (19:35/22:00). Finally, they discuss how Megan weaves an invitation to the spiritual component of belonging in the book, an integral part of the human experience. Megan's website is here: https://adultthirdculturekid.com/ Mike's website is here: https://sullyworks.com/

This is Part 1 of t wo Episodes with Megan Norton, author of Belonging Without Borders: How Adult Third Culture Kids Can Cultivate a Sense of Belonging. Mike dumps an overwhelming podcast script on poor Megan only hours before they were able to meet (2:00). But at least they were able to get Mike's name squared away. She gets into the 'Riculous Question' and has Mike beat by two countries lived in and two more continents than him (5:55). They nail down an overlapping bucket list item of Antarctica :D (8:00). They get into her book 'Belonging Without Borders", and Megan explains the power of the gardening/gardener anology when it comes to rooting and rerooting TCK's. Megan stocks her book full of wonderful quotes (12:25) and is prompted to share one. She chooses to vulnerably unravel a somewhat mysterious quote and the absence of romantic relationships discussed in the book (14:30). Mike chimes in with a quote that resonates with what his journey as been as a writer of his first book (16:45). Megan talks about the importance of feeling worthy and valued and how often TCK's have a frayed sense of self worth (18:30). She implores our audience of the larger responsibility that companies and organizations have in caring for the dependents of their employees working internationally. They get into Megan's dislike of cheaky wall hangings (21:25) and how they don't leave room for a holistic emotional experience. Also, she explains what what it means to have faulty tendencies to romanticize the past or future landing spots for people in transition (24:00). Finally this episode ends with a discussion on how to determine if relationships are "for the road" or "for the journey". REMEMBER!! This Month (9 more days) .. Get a signed copy of the book. Get it here! https://www.amazon.com/Belonging-Beyond-Borders-Culture-Cultivate-ebook/dp/B0BNLRZYL2?ref_=ast_author_mpb Reach out to Megan here! https://adultthirdculturekid.com/

Is there a particular tree or forest that made you feel at home or reminds you of a part of your mobile life long gone? Camille Deniau uses her art to bring a piece of you back into your home (11:30). Camille is a new mother (2:00) and all that may bring. Please congratulate her if you get the chance. On the podcast, she answers the ridiclous question of course (4:00), with a lot of overlap with Mike in cities like London (3:00) and Singapore (10:00). She describes Project Roots (7:00) and how it got started in parallel with a promising corporate career among the international community (12:30). She could finally coallesce a wider mission around it (16:00) and add a community with it. More than that she talks about the value of hanging on to things that are meaningful to us .. like trees!(20:20). Finally, she provides a beautiful analogy of why our connectness to nature is important and a representation of our life (16:00/21:25). She gives the following book recommendations for further exploration. Peter Wohlleben - The Hidden life of trees Suzanne Simard - Finding the Mother Tree You can find Project Roots in the following locations. ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7PnOjJAr8c&t=36s⁠⁠ https://projectrootsart.com/ https://linktr.ee/project.roots https://www.instagram.com/project.roots/

In the BONUS ROUND, Mike and Kanako discuss inportant issues for educators and parents with kids who are TCK's and/or Queer. Kanako discusses a great strategy to sustainably care for students and avoid burnout by asking an important question (1:35) This resonates with Mike and gets emotional, struggling to talk about the educators who let him down in his past (6:30). Kanako lays out clearly then what those educators could look like (10:45), especially for Queer TCK's that could be in a precarious situation (12:15). Kanako provides excellent advise and perspective parents should take if they find out they have queer kids (17:10). She provide a final take on where educators and parents should go for help if they find themselves in these situations (20:20). You can connect with Kanako through LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kanako-suwa-24b891227/ You can connect with Mike as well here: https://sullyworks.com/

Mike is delighted to have Kanako Suwa who openly identifies as Queer on his podcast. She is an international educator working in Mike's 'hometown' of Chiang Mai, Thailand. They talk about Chiang Mai in the outset (3:00), and of course jump into the ridiculous question (7:50). Kanako then opens up about her journey discovering that she is Queer and the conflicting elements of coming from a conservative Japanese home (11:20). Mike wants to know how much of it is just universally difficult and how much of it relates uniquely to Japanese culture (16:00), and then what role does being a TCK play in her journey (19:00). At his own expense Mike decides to admit that he's not sure what exactly it means to be 'Queer' (21:30). Kanako graciously spells out her perspective on it and why she confidently chooses it to help define where she stands (23:45). The conversation will continue next week as Mike doesn't want any of the conversation to be missed. Stay tuned for more from Kanako in the Bonus round coming in a few days. To connect with the host, Mike Sullivan you can find his information here: https://sullyworks.com/

Rhoda Bangerter is a life coach, author, and podcast host. Her work specializes in working with couples with a traveling partner. She first attempts to answer the ridiculous question (5:00), and gives us a great overlay of the trials and differences of having bicultural parents (6:50). Mike then discusses with her the discoveries Rhoda has made and how this impacts her crosscultural marriage (9:30). This resonates with Mike (14:00), as he too is in a cross-cultural relationship. She further breaks down what positives she will take from her parents, and the negatives she will leave behind (19:00). Rhoda then asks Mike about examples in his marriage and how he went about making it work (23:00). Rhoda and Mike then discuss the journey one takes coming from growing up cross-culturally (as TCK's) and tyring to put a our their finger why we feel the way we do and where we feel most comfortable (28:00). She opens up about struggles with appearance and racial stereotypes and how damaging they can be to a child (32:00). Finally, they discuss Rhoda's work with expat couples helping them overcome the challenges of a partners frequent business travel (37:00). You can connect with Rhoda on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhodabangerter/ Her website is here: https://amulticulturallife.com/ Her podcast can be found here: https://feeds.captivate.fm/holding-the-fort-abroad/ Connect with the Host, Mike Sullivan here: https://sullyworks.com/

Mike invites fellow Kickstarter non-fiction indie author Jia Ling Wang (a.k.a. Karen Diggs) on to talk about her new book, '10 Super Asian Women Who Shaped History'. Mike first talks about how he discovered her through is own efforts as an indie author (3:00), and then of course presses her to answer the ridiculous question (3:45). She reveals a bit of what inspired the book (5:30) and segues into a discussion on language loss and the implications and regrets of that (6:30). Of course, they talk about her book (10:30), and her desire to unearth information about known women in history from entertainment and more about them and others. She talks about what inspired her to write the book (13:25), and what desire she has for readers in a world where women still aren't treated well (16:00). Mike, trying desperately not to reveal spoilers in his own book, talks about his own life and story and why this message resonates with him (17:00). A book mark that came as a gift for those supporing Jia Ling's Kickstarter campaign and the quote written on it then becomes the center of a larger message that she wants the world to take to heart (19:00). Who is Karen Diggs? (27:00) Mike asks Jia Ling to talk about her professional life as a nuititionist and chef, and you'll be very surprised at how she brings her passion with 'fermenting' into focus with diversity and risk in trying new things and the life we should all lead. Certainly, if you want to get your hands on a copy of her book you can get it here. https://www.amazon.com/Super-Asian-Women-Shaped-History/dp/B0CF48R5WF If you are curious about Mike's offering as well you can support his effort here. https://sullyworks.com/ As always. Thanks for listening!