Zebra Friends

Joy, love, and laughter are in the house as Katani and Sara return for a spirited discussion of Spirituals, Pilgrimages, Movies, Music, and Popeye's turkey. 

Katani and Sara share ways to find joy in shows, song, and sport while bantering on race as only best friends can.

Katani, Sara, and their husbands the "Zebros" share the challenges and rewards of parenting and their dramatically different backstories on how they were parented. 

Katani and Sara's husbands dive deep into the deets of how they met their spouses. Do their answers match their wives'? Tune in as the four friends spill all.

Katani and Sara discover the birthplace of abolitionism in their own backyard and field listener questions on everything from implicit bias to colorism. 

Dynamo special guest Juanita Matthews, ambassador of the USA Pickleball Association, converts Katani and Sara to the joys of the fastest growing sport in the country.

Katani and Sara break down the attack on the U.S. Capitol and offer their reasons for hope.

Katani and Sara celebrate their first season with a look back at a roller coaster year's most memorable moments.  Join the two best friends as they share highlights and audience favorites from their sometimes funny, often challenging, always honest conversations about race.

In this eye-opening episode, anti-racist specialist Dr. Kandice Sumner blows the lid off predictable, post-election punditry and breaks it down for Katani and Sara from a millennial's point of view.

In a cry for unity and compassion, Katani and Sara throw caution and journalistic objectivity to the wind and reveal their opinions about the upcoming election.

Pioneer Zebra Zoomers from Napa to New England share questions about each other's race and connect in the process.

Katani and Sara's husbands rock the house as they weigh in on everything from race to their shared experiences with high-octane spouses.  Dubbing themselves the "Zebros", Chris Sumner and Andy Hunter dig deep and laugh loud in their podcast debut.

At a time when many of us are home, forced to pause and reflect on the injustice arrayed before us, we can learn to become co-conspirators fighting racism. Katani and Sara discuss specific books and TED talks to speed the learning process. What does it mean to have "skin in the game"?  Find out on this month's edition of Zebra Friends!

Katani and Sara dive deep into turbulent times to examine causes, solutions, and why Zebra Friendship is more important now than ever.  Sara wonders, "What can I do?". Katani answers, "Fight against those powers that are trying to tell you that it's us and them. Can we be great and move forward together? And not separate? That's my goal. United. United States, United Humans, United People of America.  But acknowledge that being Black in America is a health hazard."

Katani & Sara's dream of gathering friends new and old to meet, mingle and discuss race in a safe space has come true and you're invited!. The Zebra Friends launch party kicked off in Boston with family, friends and fans pre-Corona. There was laughter. There was food. There were shared horror stories of green bean casserole.  Hear our guests' questions and prepare to join the party. City by city and friend by friend, we're celebrating the joy in Black and White. Next party is a Zebra Zoom and you're invited.

Katani and Sara bridge social distance with a virtual embrace of their global audience. Affection and connection eclipse remoteness and isolation as the Zebra Friends tackle topics from church-going to transracial adoption.

Follow Katani & Sara's pilgrimage to OPRAH and friends onstage during which Sara regrets asking Katani, "Who is this Tamela Mann?" Plus surprising answers to the burning questions:  Is it ok for kids to sit together in the cafeteria based on race?  Should we try to be color blind?  What race relations topic is taboo?

Zebra Friends Katani & Sara share the highs (Katani's Paris Jazz Club debut) and lows (chasing bats from a castle) of their French adventure. Katani learns that bats hate white noise and Sara learns not to appropriate phrases from "Girls Trip". We ready!!

Katani and Sara recount their historical and hysterical pilgrimage to President Barack Obama's inauguration: proof that no matter how solemn the circumstances of a shared experience, the reality will inevitably have its ridiculous moments.

Zebra Friends Katani and Sara tackle the tough questions like "Are white folks rhythmically impaired?