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Biracial, millennial, brother-sister duo, Johnathan and April Perkins, take part in candid conversation about racism, white people, and what to do next.
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THEE Honorable JUSTICE Ketanji Brown Jackson
Johnathan & April celebrate nerd out and celebrate the occasion of Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first Black Woman to sit on the U.S. Supreme Court.
Beware Performative Activism
Johnathan & April discuss a recent, nuanced example of performative activism and the very real risks these actions pose to Black, brown and Indigenous folks.
Don’t Call Police, Just Stay Focused
Johnathan & April discuss the very real harm you calling police continues to inflict upon Black people.
We’re Baaaaack!
Johnathan & April kick off their 4th season with announcements, updates, and an important challenge for listeners.
Family Matters (Season 3 Finale)
In the Season 3 Finale, April and Johnathan open up about racism within their own extended family and give insight on how best to handle these difficult realities.
The Trial of Derek Chauvin
Johnathan & April welcome their sister Jubilee to discuss the ongoing trial of Derek Chauvin and its implications on the Black community. The conversation gets very real.
True Crime
Johnathan & April spend the entire episode in an intense discussion of the true crime genre and its intersection with race and white supremacy.
Organizing in Biden-Harris' America with Ivette (JusticeLA) and Dahlia (WP4BL)
Johnathan & April breathe a sigh of relief following the Biden-Harris inauguration, then explore antiracist organizing with founders of JusticeLA and White People 4 Black Lives, Ivette Alé and Dahlia Ferlito, respectively.Justice LA: https://justicelanow.org/DONATE: www.paypal.com/donate/?token=FQsi3jKPJtc6WkXZeROn0-iuZDq_cWFbE9L1S1ih0f_Vrp4Me_9e0XRs1MBxMNf2jz2Xj1FEUNfASFcZ&fromUL=true&country.x=US&locale.x=en_USWhite People 4 Black Lives: https://www.awarela.org/white-people-4-black-livesDONATE: https://www.awarela.org/donatePODCAST: Bold Conversations about Race: https://soundcloud.com/user-682532119/sets/bold-conversations-about-race
Two Discussions: Reparations + Gen Z activism
Johnathan & April discuss America's refusal to even entertain the notion of reparations, then dive deep into the life of three Gen Z student-activists with friends of the pod, Abbey (18), Sai (17), and Zoe (17).
Racial Resolutions for 2021
Johnathan & April discuss their Racial Resolutions for 2021, then enjoy a fascinating and informative conversation with poet, activist, and self-proclaimed void-filler Jessica Care Moore, including a performance of one of Jessica's most moving pieces.
Implicit Bias 101 with Jerry Kang
Johnathan & April dedicate the entire episode to exploring implicit bias, sharing real-world examples and the harms that stem from them. They then take a deep analytical dive into the science behind the phenomenon and discuss where we might go from here, with renown implicit bias expert Jerry Kang.
Mental Health in 2020 with Dr. Nicole Green
Johnathan & April discuss Black trauma and mental health in the workplace, then explore a fascinating conversation with Dr. Nicole Green, Executive Director of UCLA Counseling & Psychological Services, about mental health in the context of the horrors of 2020.
Say Her Name with Brittany Packnett Cunningham
On their Season 3 premier, Johnathan & April catch up on the challenges of summer 2020, then dive into a packed conversation about Breonna Taylor, the election, activism, and educating our children during COVID-19, with activist Brittany Packnett Cunningham.
Introducing Roots to Revolution!
Johnathan & April dedicate this special bonus episode to speaking with the three founders of Roots to Revolution, an online history courses for all ages that teaches un-whitewashed American history as a tool to foster sustainable and intentional activism against systemic racism.Sign up today at: https://www.rootstorevolution.org/courses
It's a Family Affair! (Season 2 Finale)
In the Season 2 Finale, mom Nancy and sister Jubilee join Johnathan & April in a lively discussion on a variety of issues including COVID-19; the #BlackLivesMatter Movement's progress following the global protests; and due to popular demand, the national political landscape.
Black Lives Matter Goes Mainstream
Johnathan & April discuss how they see white people finally responding to the outcries of racial injustice, following the public lynchings of George Floyd and so many others.
Karens & Killer Kops
Johnathan & April define "Karens" and discuss the recent attempt on Christian Cooper's life in New York's Central Park, then dive into the tragedy of and People's response to the lynching of George Floyd.
N-Word, Please
Johnathan & April discuss white people's opinions on the n-word, then enjoy an intense discussion of law, politics and Trump with foreign policy, national security, and public law & identity expert Nola Haynes.
We Run with Ahmaud (explicit)
Johnathan & April share their thoughts on the lynching of Ahmaud Arbery.
Pandemic: The Racial Implications of COVID-19
Johnathan & April dedicate the episode to parsing through the numerous risks and harms black and brown people are experiencing as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.
Abroad While Black
Johnathan & April enjoy an enlightening conversation with international English teacher and all around jet-setter, Jo Acholonu, about what it's like to travel the globe as a black woman.
Becoming Right-Sized with White People for Black Lives (WP4BL)
White People 4 Black Lives: https://www.awarela.org/white-people-4-black-livesShowing Up for Racial Justice: https://www.showingupforracialjustice.org/Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatter.com/
Racism 101: Common Questions & Straight Answers
Johnathan & April recount the ten questions about race and racism they encounter most frequently, then talk representation and news reporting with Philadelphia Magazine's writer at large, Ernest Owens.
Juvenile Justice with Youth Sentencing & Reentry Project
Johnathan & April take a deep dive into America's broken juvenile justice system, its glaring racial disparities and, all the work required for meaningful reform with the co-founders of the Youth Sentencing & Reentry Project.
We're Talking Civil Rights with the ACLU
Johnathan & April enjoy a fascinating discussion with ACLU Executive Director, Reggie Shuford about the ongoing threat to civil rights and liberties under the Trump administration.
Public Defenders: An Inside Look
Johnathan & April discuss what it's like to be the only black/brown person in an all white environment and the negative effects of the White Gaze in the workplace, then enjoy a fascinating conversation with veteran public defender, Derrick Johnson.
Thanksgiving Dinner with White Nonsense Roundup
Johnathan & April explain why discussing racism and white supremacy with relatives at Thanksgiving dinner is an opportunity for anti-racists, then explore the vital online advocacy of White Nonsense Roundup with founding volunteer, Joel Derfner.
Antiracism as a Lifelong Journey: A Conversation with Our (White) Mother
In their Season One Finale, Johnathan & April chat with their mother about her conservative upbringing, her journey to Jackson, MS, her life with our father, and our lives after his untimely death. They then discuss why she believes all white people must be "broken" and humbled, before they can be effective racial allies.
Two Discussions: White Feminism + The Cannabis Industry
Johnathan & April discuss "white feminism," its pervasiveness during the #MeToo movement, and its harmful effects, then take a deep dive into the racial implications of the emerging cannabis industry with The Philadelphia Inquirer's Tauhid Chappell.
Gentrification vs. Community Building with Shane Claiborne
Johnathan & April take a deep dive into gentrification's harmful effects. They then discuss community building best practices and much more with activist Shane Claiborne, founder of The Simple Way, a non-profit community organization in the Philadelphia neighborhood of Kensington, widely considered the epicenter of the opioid crisis.
Social Media, Appropriation, and Influencer Culture with Amber Burns
Johnathan & April dissect white folks' apparent need to touch black women's hair, then dive into social media and influencer culture with lifestyle blogger, vlogger, and content creator, Amber Burns. Johnathan & April end this episode with a reading list!
Eric Garner's Murderer is Fired, A Rant. (w. cussing.)
Today, the New York City Police Commissioner announced via emotional press conference his decision to fire Eric Garner's murderer. Johnathan & April discuss their emotional reactions...spiritedly.
The Federal Government Reinstates the Death Penalty
Johnathan & April discuss the often-subtle language of white supremacy within the context of gentrification, then discuss the death penalty, its origins, and the numerous inequalities central to its implementation with Hannah Riley of the Southern Center for Human Rights.
Moving Forward with Martese Johnson
Johnathan & April explain FTR #1 (Fundamental Truths about Racism), then discuss turning racial trauma into action with Martese Johnson, UVA alumnus, whose bloody encounter with law enforcement went viral in 2015.
America's Segregated Education System
Johnathan & April are emotionally-ready to discuss the importance of Ava DuVernay's When They See Us, the story of the so-called Central Park Five, then take a deep dive into America's public schools with urban education expert, Kiah J. Hufane, M.S.Ed., who shares insight & advice for racial allies seeking to improve the system.
Religion's Role in the Creation of Race
Johnathan & April illustrate how to put their FTRs (Fundamental Truths about Racism) to work in real-world discussions, then invite religion and critical race theory expert, Nick Peterson, M.Div., to discuss the role religion played in the creation of race and racism in America.
black&: a sister/brother podcast
Introducing black& - a sister/brother podcast on racism and what white people can do to be effective allies! Subscribe, rate, and review in Apple Podcasts. Don’t forget to share with your friends and follow us on Instagram to let us know what you think!
FTRs and Interracial Dating
Johnathan and April discuss their FTRs (Foundational Truths about Race), and then discuss their thoughts around beauty standards, interracial dating, and more.