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Deviate with Rolf Potts — 268 episodes

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1

What movies (do and don’t) show us about places before we travel there

2

Exploring the idiosyncrasies of male friendship, with Andrew McCarthy

3

Debunking the mythology of BEFORE SUNRISE, with co-writer Kim Krizan (in Paris)

4

Super Bowl special: Why football kind of matters, with Chuck Klosterman (kind of)

5

Time is your truest form of wealth (and travel helps you embrace your riches)

6

Kansas Never Plays Itself: How movies lie when they take us places

7

Traveling as a writer, and awkward book-tour experiences, with Anthony Doerr (from 2012)

8

Talking with my parents about how to handle it when your parents die (in memory of Alice Potts, 1943-2025)

9

An audiobook about how (not) to write a travel book: 9 lessons from my failed van-life memoir

10

Vagabonding pioneer Ed Buryn on what indie travel was like in the 1960s and 1970s (encore)

11

Why We Travel: Happiness, curiosity, wonder, sex, healing, and other motivations for hitting the road

12

Before Sunrise (redo): Screenwriter Kim Krizan on what led up to the classic travel-romance movie

13

Before Sunrise: Screenwriter Kim Krizan on what led up to the classic 1995 travel-romance movie

14

Mars on Earth: The world’s driest desert, and what travelers might find when they go there

15

Why a chapter about “slum tourism” was edited out of The Vagabond’s Way (with Chloe Cooper Jones)

16

Long-term travel 101: Matt Kepnes on how to slow down and save money on an extended global journey

17

Travel memoir lab: On blending travel narrative with a broader memoiristic life-narrative

18

How a journey on the Hippie Trail changed Rick Steves’ life (and influenced Rolf’s travels too)

19

A travel writers’ Super Bowl special: Pico Iyer and Rolf discuss NFL football from the global perspective

20

Pico Iyer on how solitude, stillness, and silence play an essential counterbalance to the traveling life

21

Life changing travel experiences: Memories of traveling to Syria, 25 years on (with Ari Shaffir)

22

Travel memoir lab: How to fast-track your travel book by working with a hybrid publisher

23

HoneyTrek: A case study in making a full-time living as travel influencers and content creators

24

Live from Bali: How tourists, influencers, and nomads transform destinations (for good and for bad)

25

Vagabonding audio companion: Obnoxious travelers (and how to avoid being one)

26

What you discover when you walk down every single street in New York City (encore)

27

A history and future of digital and biological technology, with Jane Metcalfe

28

Bicycling across the USA (with no money or food) looking for human connection

29

Wonder Year: The Art of Long-Term Family Travel and Worldschooling

30

How Rolf Ruined the 1990s: A personal history of my grunge-bandwagon band

31

Walk and Talk: Notes from a peripatetic salon across northern Thailand

32

Essential tips and strategies for telling travel stories, with Andrew McCarthy

33

What it’s like to spend a full year traveling within a day’s radius of your home

34

Sports, superstitions, and sacraments: A Deviate Super Bowl Special (2024 remix)

35

Tim Ferriss and Rolf discuss travel, time wealth, and “success management”

36

The best journeys explore mindscapes as well as landscapes (book club remix)

37

Going abroad for love, and travel writing that says something new about a place

38

Seek places where your very presence makes you interesting (book club redo)

39

Travel memoir lab: Truth, luck, & multi-genre storytelling (with Tom Bissell)

40

Seek places where your very presence makes you interesting (book club remix)

41

Vagabonding audio companion: A life in (and philosophy of) long-term travel

42

A train isn’t just a vehicle; it’s a place (a remix encore, with Monisha Rajesh)

43

Travelers experience more when they slow down and ask lots of questions

44

“Dare to do Dirt”: Seeking rural places (and how to best experience them)

45

Vagabonding audio companion: Why (and how) travel souvenirs matter

46

Travel can return you to a kind of childhood (online book club remix)

47

What museums reveal about places (and what they have to offer travelers)

48

Vagabonding audio companion: How to study abroad (even if you aren’t a student)

49

Fear, family, and walking the Camino de Santiago (live with Andrew McCarthy)

50

Travel burnout is a real thing (and it’s OK to feel it sometimes), with Matt Kepnes

51

The Mystical High Church of Luck: Decoding Las Vegas (with Ari Shaffir)

52

How travelers create quests and find community (online book club remix)

53

Art introduces us to places before we go there (live from the Faroe Islands)

54

Travel can be a way to see the future (and experience the past), with Kevin Kelly

55

The best age to travel is whatever age you are now (an online book club remix)

56

Seek out global connections while you’re still at home (with Kristin Van Tassel)

57

A Native American football team beat the 1927 NFL Giants: The story of John Levi

58

Why you go someplace is less important than just going (with Tony Perrottet)

59

Integrating love of travel & love of home (with philosopher Chloe Cooper Jones)

60

Travel contracts your possessions and expands your life (with Eric Weiner)

61

Travelers create their own distinct global culture (with anthropologist Pegi Vail)

62

The travel industry is here to help you; feel free to ignore it (with Seth Kugel)

63

Deviate Live in NYC: The Vagabond’s Way (onstage at KGB Bar with Ari Shaffir)

64

Reinvent what it means to be an “explorer” (with Kate Harris)

65

The subtler risks of travel carry rich rewards (with Carl Hoffman)

66

Uncertainty makes for the truest adventures (aka Tim Cahill’s Travel 101)

67

Traveling solo opens up new possibilities in a place (with Stephanie Rosenbloom)

68

Keeping a journal helps you make sense of the journey (with Lavinia Spalding)

69

Paul Theroux on the merits of travel and the paradoxes of the global economy

70

Seeking real crowds beats crowdsourcing (from The Vagabond’s Way book launch)

71

Preconceptions can blur what you see firsthand on the road (with Eddy Harris)

72

Travel deviations can be as appealing as travel plans, with Ari Shaffir

73

The Vagabond’s Way: An audio introduction to Rolf’s new book

74

Vagabonding audio companion: Love, finding home, and telling TV travel stories

75

“On the Ice”: What it’s like to live and work at Antarctica’s McMurdo Station

76

A Critical Race Theorist’s guide to writing smut novels, with Dr. Kevin Harrison

77

Traveler ideals, hospitality, and the disappearance of an Italian priest in Syria

78

Refuse to be Done: The art of creative persistence for long-haul projects

79

Marcia DeSanctis on revisiting places, souvenirs, and travel as self-reinvention

80

Chris Guillebeau on life goals, work, and travel as alt-university [encore]

81

Hitchhiking for pastries: The art of structuring a journey with an obsession

82

How to embrace uncertainty and redefine success by taking a “pathless path”

83

What travel teaches you about the human body, with Dr. Jonathan Reisman

84

The creative art of making a living as an adventurer, with Alastair Humphreys

85

The strangers we meet on the road, and how they can deepen our journey

86

Vagabonding audio companion: What it’s like to come home after a long trip

87

Meghan Daum on career-reinvention, flyover country, nuance, and Gen X

88

Paul Theroux on reading, teaching, and slow travel in Mexico [encore]

89

How inexpensive countries are the secret to prolonging the journey [encore]

90

Lost in the Valley of Death: The life and disappearance of Justin Alexander

91

A mixtape (of sorts) about mixtapes: Music as intimate communication

92

Holiday Special: Celebrating the Sears Christmas Wish Book [encore]

93

Digital nomadism [bonus]: How technology has changed the way we travel

94

Van Life before #VanLife (encore): Revisiting a classic USA road trip

95

Tales from the vagabonding trail: Discussing “Marco Polo Didn’t Go There”

96

Vagabonding audio companion: Travel brainstorming, with Ari Shaffir

97

Maintaining creative fitness: How my podcast augments my writing career

98

Finding the best places to live: Searching for home in America [encore]

99

Travel writing in the “Mad Men” era: The myth and legacy of Holiday Magazine

100

The Olympics started out as a travel fest: All about the ancient Greek Games

101

Experiencing Japan the slow way (on the 750-mile Shikoku Pilgrimage)

102

Vagabonding audio companion: How your earliest journeys transform you

103

Digital nomadism: A history and future (from a documentary film in progress)

104

Travel in the “Mad Men” era: Stewardess work at the dawn of the Jet Age

105

The curious case of a con-man who infiltrated the world of elite travelers

106

Memories you didn’t know you remembered: A deeper dive into nostalgia

107

What a 20th century monk can teach us about living (with Sophfronia Scott)

108

Life changing travel experiences: Epiphanies of expatriate life in Korea

109

Paul Theroux on the necessary obstacles of immersive slow travel [encore]

110

Triumph in the middle of nowhere: The most 1980s underdog story of the 1980s

111

On the road with the superstars of Negro League baseball, 100 years on

112

Notes on the philosophy (and deeper meaning) of travel, with Emily Thomas

113

Pam Houston on home, and the beauty of our pared-down lives [encore]

114

Long-distance hiking at home: The art of journeying out of your own back door

115

Pico Iyer on the creative task of travel across the world and deep within [encore]

116

What it’s like to take your kids on a three-month journey in the Himalayas

117

The joys and idiosyncrasies of global train travel (with Monisha Rajesh)

118

Five Travel Lessons You Can Use at Home (a road-trip intro to Deviate Season 4)

119

Life changing travel experiences (with Ari Shaffir): Walking across Israel

120

How to write a travel memoir (and how failure is the best teacher)

121

Strategies and arguments for the simple life (from an off-grid perspective)

122

American Pilgrim: Revisiting Rolf’s lost Travel Channel Thanksgiving special

123

Solo travel: Celebrating the pleasures of (and strategies for) journeying alone

124

Vagabonding audio companion: Time Wealth and the spiritual texture of travel

125

Coming-of-age on the road as a dirtbag backpacker (with Pam Mandel)

126

On penis theft, creepy clowns, anxiety, and how culture tells us what is real

127

Pandemic love, cheating death, & cassette tapes: A personal history of nostalgia

128

A folk history of Satanic Panic, backmasking, and rock music in the 1980s

129

What it’s like to travel 37 countries (and counting) in a wheelchair

130

20 lessons learned from 20 years as a travel writer: A TravelCon keynote

131

Sex, travel, and the art of being a better bad tourist (with Suzanne Roberts)

132

Drunk in China: A vicarious Middle Kingdom adventure via its favorite booze

133

Growing up racially diverse: A not-so-politically-correct roundtable

134

Eric Weiner’s journey into the ways philosophy compels us to live better

135

Life changing travel experiences: The best hostel ever (in Cairo)

136

Brian Koppelman on the intimacy of podcasting and the genius of Iron Maiden

137

Vagabonding pioneer Ed Buryn on what indie travel was like in the 1960s

138

Kevin Kelly on how travel has changed over the past 50 years [rebroadcast]

139

Remembering Bettina Gilois (and what writers can learn from her work)

140

Talking with my parents about how to handle it when your parents die

141

Bonus: Unpacking the mission of travel-writing in the 21st century

142

What the world’s last subsistence hunters can teach us about humanity

143

Revisiting The Great Gatsby, high-school-style, in quarantine

144

Why travelers visit museums (in places like Iceland), and what they find there

145

Life changing travel experiences: Jumping freight trains in the Pacific NW

146

Kate Harris on the way travel can lead us into deeper questions about the universe

147

Andrew McCarthy on the Proust Questionnaire (and Brat Pack legacy)

148

How to balance creative success with business success: An open chat

149

How underground exploration is the perennial frontier of adventure travel

150

Honeymoon without her husband: Maggie Downs’ uncommon world journey

151

The win-win of being a mentor, with Cal Fussman and Alex Banayan

152

Why a “Shelter in Place Film Festival” beats bingeing video right now

153

Using your travel skills to make quarantine life better: An open chat

154

Reports from my travels in quarantine: A Deviate Season Two coda

155

Life changing travel experiences, quarantine edition: Paris and Prague

156

How COVID-19 will transform the business of long-term world travel

157

What fear is, how it works, and how to manage it (with Eva Holland)

158

On losing one’s parents to COVID-19: A traveler-report addendum

159

How COVID-19 will transform airports (and other pandemic considerations)

160

Why the way we discuss (and interpret information about) COVID-19 matters

161

What it’s like to travel during COVID-19: Reports from around the world

162

How Nomadic Matt got COVID-19. Plus: Reports from stranded travelers

163

How to make sense of health data in a time of pandemic (and beyond)

164

How to enhance your career by becoming a better public speaker and reader

165

On sabbaticals: How to take a career break without breaking your career

166

Ari Shaffir and Rolf do a deep-dive on the finer points of indie travel

167

Remembering Nirvana, and how music can frame experience (and memory)

168

How music affects you when you’re young (or, the joys of Jane’s Addiction)

169

Life-changing travel experiences: China and Mongolia with my parents

170

Why dinosaurs matter (also: Rolf fact-checks the dino book he wrote at age 7)

171

What Matt Green discovered by walking every single street in New York City

172

A personal history of being a lifelong pro-sports fan (Super Bowl special)

173

The power of small choices across decades: The Sgt. John Monk story

174

Chris Guillebeau on goals, writing books, and travel as alt-university

175

How to balance a life of artistic ambition with sanity and happiness

176

Indonesia: An argument for (and essential tips on) traveling the archipelago

177

Why Noah Baumbach’s “Kicking & Screaming” might be the best movie ever

178

Deviate Christmas Special: Celebrating the Sears Wish Book [Rebroadcast]

179

Bonus: On the therapeutic uses of reading classic literature and scripture

180

What narrative therapy is, and how it can make your life feel more coherent

181

America’s most solemn historical sites rarely offer an honest take on history

182

Author Alex Banayan on seeking mentors for life (and writing) guidance

183

On the under-appreciated reality of revelry, sex, and misadventure in travel

184

The world’s cheapest destinations, and why (besides savings) they’re great

185

Paul Theroux on aging, slow travel, and the inherent complexity of Mexico

186

Bonus: Storytelling for the screen: A lecture from the Paris Writing Workshop

187

Benjamin Percy on how comics and movies teach the best lessons about telling stories

188

Why travel guidebooks still matter (and how to best use them on the road)

189

An insider’s guide to traveling America’s National Parks in the 21st century

190

Van Life before #VanLife: Rolf unpacks his very first vagabonding journey

191

Ryan Holiday on how to conceive, research, and write a “Big Idea” book

192

“American Beauty” has not aged well: Reconsidering the film, 20 years on

193

Wesley Morris on why Spike Lee’s “Do the Right Thing” remains a classic

194

Explore Europe on Foot: The hows and whys of trek-travel on the continent

195

The case for why trekking on foot is the best way to embrace slow travel

196

Pico Iyer on travel, impermanence, and what Japan can teach us about life

197

A first- (or second-) timer’s guide to experiencing Paris at a slow pace

198

How keeping a travel journal can transform your experience of the journey

199

The Shawshank Redemption’s brilliant reworking of Stephen King, 25 years on

200

Celebrating the subtle (and not-so-subtle) genius of Pulp Fiction, 25 years on

201

Bonus: Nomadic Matt’s top-19 lessons learned from a decade of travel

202

Matt Kepnes on how to travel for years (instead of days or weeks) at a time

203

Alastair Humphreys on making outdoor adventure a more active part of your life

204

Will New Orleans still be there in 100 years? Examining the fate of a city.

205

Backpacker, Go Home: How Tourism Is Ruining Everything (or Not)

206

Seth Kugel on how to (truly) get off the beaten path as a global traveler

207

Sports-movie screenwriter Bettina Gilois on the art of depicting true-life stories

208

Why David Lynch’s The Straight Story is a travel classic (and how it got made)

209

Celebrating the best travel movies ever (and what, exactly, makes them good)

210

Storming (and making sense of) Leonardo DiCaprio’s The Beach, 20 years later

211

Author Dave Cullen on what the media gets wrong after mass-shootings

212

How to travel lighter, safer, and smarter (featuring Sarah von Bargen)

213

How to travel with no luggage at all (and what this teaches you)

214

5 ways indie travel has changed (and stayed the same) since 1999

215

How philosophy can (truly) improve your life, featuring Monica McCarthy

216

Ari Shaffir unpacks Rolf’s experience of doing psychedelics for the first time

217

Deviate Season One finale with Ari Shaffir

218

An outsider’s inside history of the Beat Generation, as told by Charles Plymell

219

Author Pam Houston on the joys of creating home amid a lifetime of travel

220

Andrew McCarthy on storytelling, celebrity, and how travel changed his life

221

Major Jackson on the poetics of time (and how best, in life, to spend it)

222

White Zombie guitarist J. Yuenger on music, expat life, and long-term travel

223

Traveling Russia onboard the Trans-Siberian express: A 2018 case study

224

The great railway bizarre: A Trans-Siberian story (plus audio endnotes)

225

Writer-producer LaToya Morgan on TV storytelling and creative self-discipline

226

Punk icon Ian MacKaye on why we should question the official history of rock music

227

How to survive a natural disaster (and recover when it’s over)

228

Wesley Morris on podcast-fame, sports, and performing blackness in America

229

Satanic backward masking changed 1980s rock (but not in the way you think)

230

Celebrating the best places to live (and the quest for home) in America

231

On American Highways II: A brief history of the Negro Motorist Green Book

232

On American Highways I: A brief history of family road-trips in the USA

233

How to break up with your smartphone (and rediscover your real-world life)

234

Classic rock is not dead. Classic rock is undead. Long live classic rock.

235

Remembering Bourdain, and what we talk about when we talk about travel writing

236

Why 1980s coming-of-age movies matter

237

How to talk to someone who is grieving the loss of a loved one

238

Paul Theroux on the art of listening, and the necessary obstacles of deep travel

239

The way we grow food has been broken for 10,000 years (but we can fix it)

240

Kevin Kelly on the lost world of 1970s Asia (and why you should travel now)

241

Kink Doctor Dulcinea Pitagora on sex therapy, BDSM, and dominatrix work

242

Sarah von Bargen is here to help you correct your bad self-help habits

243

The way we teach and learn has been broken for 300 years (but we can fix it)

244

How we die in America (and why it’s important to talk about it)

245

Deviate Live in New York City: Travel Stories and Souvenirs

246

How romance novels reveal the secret history of life in America

247

Ari Shaffir on travel, memory, and the odd psychology of souvenirs

248

Unsane writer James Greer on the death of Cobain and birth of Gen X

249

The Epic One-Against-Five Foul-Out Basketball Game of 1964

250

Adventure writer Tim Cahill on fear, and what it’s like to be dead for ten minutes

251

Filmmaker Rod Pocowatchit on Native American zombie movies and DIY film

252

Baseball writer Rany Jazayerli on fandom, and growing up Muslim in America

253

Sophfronia Scott on God, mid-life career change, and defining a generation

254

The weird and complicated history of America’s national anthem

255

What it’s like to be a Latino police officer in America

256

What it’s like to be a black police officer in America

257

A Shadow History of Rock Music in the 1980s

258

Novelist Tod Goldberg on murder, and why sports is so emotionally affecting

259

Sharknado producer David Latt on how the B-movie sausage gets made

260

Novelist Cynthia Sweeney on getting your big creative break at mid-life

261

Bookslut Jessa Crispin on Keanu Reeves and the joys of celebrity fixation

262

The Sears Christmas Wish Book was (truly) great American literature

263

Comedian Ari Shaffir on ‘shrooms, hugging, and quitting smartphones

264

Disaster Artist writer Tom Bissell on bogus authenticity and violence in art

265

Everest mountaineer Alison Levine on introversion and finding mentors

266

Hollywood composer Rolfe Kent on the joys of throwing out quality work

267

TV host Ernest White II on black/white, gay/straight male friendships

268

Bestselling author Tim Ferriss on how to create a successful podcast