#25: Seb Audet, Co-Founder @ Zapper.fi | How Zapper evolved from a DeFi degens' product into a web3 exploration tool with over 1 million users

Zapper is one of the most popular crypto apps. And on Thursday, they published the v2, which transformed Zapper from a portfolio tracker into a web3 exploration tool. I talk with Seb about their early days, management & growth tactics, v2, and... art. Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/web3talks Follow Seb & Mac: https://twitter.com/sebaudet26 https://twitter.com/MacBudkowski 1:57 How Seb got disillusioned with finance and started building, which led him to Ethereum, DeFi, and the idea of Zapper 4:25 First days of Zapper and integrations with Uniswap and Synthetix 6:04 How hard it was to query information on-chain 7:13 How Seb came up with the idea of Zapper v2 and why they bet on it 10:54 Zapper as a social media for investors and a better exploration tool than Etherscan 14:27 What’s the process behind Zapper’s slick design 17:18 How they organized Zapper to ship fast 20:20 Why they don’t have QAs in Zapper 21:57 How have they chosen the market to build on 24:55 How networks effects helped them to grow 26:05 How they decided which protocol to integrate and what helped them grow the most 28:20 What NFT and DAO-related user acquisition strategies do they use right now 31:42 Why Seb thinks founders and DeFi protocols focus too much on marketing 33:33 Biggest fuckups they had 35:45 How does Zapper make money 37:58 What would Seb fix about crypto and web3 40:30 Why web3 builders develop a thick skin 41:42 How a metaverse billboard and generative arts inspire him 47:00 What was the most fun web3 thing that happened to Seb 48:20 Crypto Twitter making the Internet fun again 50:23 Where people can find more info about Zapper 51:00 Guest idea - Founder of Interface 52:30 How I found $500 in my Zapper account