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42: Application is power. Not knowledge any more.

An episode of the The Art and Science of Difficult Conversations podcast, hosted by Chris Wong & Lucie Tesarova, titled "42: Application is power. Not knowledge any more." was published on May 27, 2025 and runs 19 minutes.

May 27, 2025 ·19m · The Art and Science of Difficult Conversations

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How much "knowledge" and information do you daily consume, but don't apply?

Join us for a reflection & celebration episode, where Chris and Lucie reflect on their clients' powerful wins and real-world transformations made possible by having one honest, courageous conversation. From ethical layoffs to overcoming perfectionism and burnout, this episode offers insight into how small shifts in communication and mindset can create big ripple effects in leadership and life.

What You'll Hear:

  • How a nonprofit saved multiple jobs after applying lessons from Episode 37 on compassionate layoffs

  • Why clarity is a leadership superpower (and how one leader created better team dynamics in just 20 minutes)

  • A client story of parting ways with a misaligned contractor—with compassion and self-respect

  • How perfectionism and people-pleasing sabotage well-being, and one leader’s journey to reclaim her time and energy

A reminder: What’s the one conversation you might be avoiding—and what might change if you finally had it?

Resources & Mentions:

🔔 Bell of Wins:
Lucie and Chris ring the metaphorical bell for courageous clients who dared to have the hard conversations—and invite you to share your own story with them, too! 

Connect with us: 

Email – [email protected]
Chris – www.linkedin.com/in/chriswonglmhc https://myleadershippotential.com/ 
Lucie – www.linkedin.com/in/lucietesarova, www.mindfittery.com 

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