7. Making loud mistakes: The serious business of play in community music with Jane York

EPISODE · Aug 31, 2025 · 44 MIN

7. Making loud mistakes: The serious business of play in community music with Jane York

from Leading Notes Podcast · host Melissa Forbes

Jane York shares her insights on the importance of community music-making, creating safe and playful spaces for singers, and how language choices can either include or exclude participants. She discusses her approach to leading community singing groups, including her "show and tell" performance model that creates a more comfortable alternative to traditional concert performances. Topics Discussed - The importance of community in our individualistic society - How community music provides connection across social barriers - Creating safe, playful environments for amateur musicians - The role of vulnerability and authenticity in music leadership - Depressurising the musical experience through humour and self-deprecation - Language choices that promote inclusivity in community music settings - Alternative performance models that prioritise connection over perfection - The transformative power of singing together Notable Quotes - "Please make some loud mistakes, you know, because that's how we learn, and that's how we, you know, improve. So it's a constant reiteration of this is a safe place to just be learning and not perfect yet, and we only learn through being bad at something multiple times. And then we improve." - Jane York - "The way the voice, the sound, changes, the strength, the vulnerability depending on our lived experiences, depending on what we're going through - it is really beautiful." - Jane York - "I'm not very interested in that old fashioned dynamic of expert and the students. I hope that my groups feel like we're just on a journey together." - Jane York - "I love music, and that's the impression I want to leave - just my deep love of the music that I'm teaching them, and my love of singing as opposed to my expertise at singing." - Jane York About Jane York Jane York is the founder of several community music initiatives including contemporary community choir Just Holla, workshop project Big Feminist Sing, and the ukulele group Strumming Singers. Her music leadership roles span universities, health and arts organisations, and community centres. Jane is also a regular guest conductor for many choirs, an experienced festival choir leader, and workshop facilitator. During Melbourne's COVID lockdowns, she led online lunchtime live sing-alongs, maintaining musical community when people needed it most. Jane can often be found leading singing at protests and fundraisers, using music as a tool for social change and community building. Connect with Jane - Jane on LinkedIn 

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