87: Mating Rituals & True Crime

Just how complicated can animal mating rituals be, and why did they even evolve them at all? And why is true crime Everywhere, and what can we learn from breaking down what makes it feel so icky?Also see Tom's new Game Show in NYC this Sunday! www.OurFindingsShow.comThings we Talk About:Deathwatch BeetleRed-Winged BlackbirdHouse FinchLesser Florican VideoDance Analysis Video 1Dance Analysis Video 2Cruell Step-DamesCarolina Buddies Murder BalladTimestamps:(00:00:00) Intro(00:04:04) Mating Rituals(01:03:01) True Crime(01:46:08) OutroSupport us with a Max Fun Membership!Join our Discord!We also learn about: the adorable death watch beetle, the deep sea “ah fuck it - you’re here” approach, of course the man on the podcast thinks reproduction is easy, why are people on hinge so picky, hermaphrodite sea bunnies, there’s plenty of fish in the sea and the sea is fucking huge, sexual ornaments, peacock feathers made Darwin SICK, sexual ornaments to identify you’re doing it with the right species, you can hang your sexual ornaments all year long for other purposes, finch dating shows, carotenoids from skilled foraging make a brighter pigment is an indicator trait, or just go to a tanning salon, going to the gym is the same - false muscles, active at night - gives you a fright - active at day - wants to get laid, wow flies give eye contact during courting - that’s better than a lot of humans, the fly cha cha slide, drosophila simlish, nuptial gifts, Women! Want! Regurgitated Nutrient Liquid! the arms race of jumping birds, the “I’ll have what she’s having theory”, dancing mannequins, intermediate level of asymmetric arm movement, if anything the study shows how comical it is to try to boil down human mating, the famous shirt smelling study, what are you trying to show with a human mating study? we shouldn’t be reductive for human mating or for animal mating either, ascribing the gender binary to worms, there is no one easy tip to dating in nature, a double banger for nuance, early crime tabloids like Illustrated Police News, Jack the Ripper was dubbed by the press after all, the prison chaplain’s broadsides, nature’s cruel step-dames or matchless monsters of the female sex, I can’t stop myself from coming up with names fro these murders, true crime lit was a best seller at public hangings, some broadsides sold 30x more than the news, the unmissable attraction of La Morgue de Paris, American Murder Ballads didn’t need you to be literate, true crime as an indicator of media trends, the vicious cycle of true crime consumption, icky entertainment motivations, working against the wishes of survivors, if only the victim had had our sponsor - simply safe, the commodification of people’s suffering, what stories do we choose not to tell, true crime seems to say there is “right” kind of victim, but true crime isn’t irredeemable.Sources:Combermere Abbey: A Hard Day’s Night For The BeetlesPadi: Sea BunnySea Slug Courtship and Reproduction1978 Paper: Ultraviolet reflection and its behavioral role in the courtship of the sulfur butterflies 1972 Paper: The Role of the Epaulets in the Red-Winged Blackbird, (Agelaius phoeniceus) Social SystemAudubon: Are Brightly Colored Males Really the Best Mates?Scientific America: Why are male birds more colorful than female birds?National Science Foundation: Bright colors in the animal kingdom: Why some use them to impress and others to intimidate2019 Paper: Facial masculinity does not appear to be a condition-dependent male ornament and does not reflect MHC heterozygosity in humansYale News: Yale study reveals mating tip for bird species: You should be dancingThe Guardian: Dinosaurs performed dances to woo mates, according to new evidenceNorthumbria University: Study identifies high quality female dance movements1995: MHC-dependent mate preferences in humans2023 Paper: Do humans agree on which body odors are attractive, similar to the agreement observed when rating faces and voices?2017 Paper: Humans as a model species for sexual selection research2009 Paper: Dance dance attribution: exploring the relationship between dance and attractiveness in intial perceptions 2020 Paper: Mutual mate choice and its benefits for both sexes---Podcast.co: How Many True Crime PodcastsCrime Reads: The Rise of the True Crime PodcasterJSTOR: The Bloody History of the True Crime GenreHenry Goodcole: Nature’s Cruel Steppe DamesNYT: The Bloody History of True Crime LitWellcome Collection: Paris MorgueJSTOR: The Paris Morgue Provided Ghoulish EntertainmentJSTOR: The Murder Ballad Was the Original True Crime PodcastPsychology Today: Why the True Crime Audience Is Predominantly FemaleSAGE article: Why women are drawn to tales of rape, murder and serial killersNYT: Is Our True-Crime Obsession Doing More Harm Than Good?Gawker: True Crime is Rottnig Our BrainsTIME: The Human Cost of Binge-Watching True Crime SeriesReclamation: The Fascination With All That is Morbid and MacabreBinghamton University: True Crime Adaptations and How the Public SurveilsUniversity of Oregon: The true crime genre is popular, but is it ethical? 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