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Banking Bitcoin: Caitlin Long vs. The System

In this episode of 'Non-Consensus Investing,' Ram Ahluwalia, CIO at Lumida Wealth, engages in a detailed discussion with Caitlin Long, founder and CEO of Custodia Bank. They delve into the intricacies of the stablecoin bill, its implications for banks and non-banks, and the broader competitive landscape. Caitlyn shares her experiences with regulatory challenges, including her lawsuit against the Federal Reserve, and the impact of regulatory decisions on innovation in the banking sector. They also explore the potential future of banking technology amidst growing crypto adoption and the regulatory environment.

Episode 85 of the Lumida Wealth : Non-Consensus Invest Beyond the Ordinary podcast, hosted by Justin Guilder, titled "Banking Bitcoin: Caitlin Long vs. The System" was published on July 11, 2025 and runs 36 minutes.

July 11, 2025 ·36m · Lumida Wealth : Non-Consensus Invest Beyond the Ordinary

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In this episode of 'Non-Consensus Investing,' Ram Ahluwalia, CIO at Lumida Wealth, engages in a detailed discussion with Caitlin Long, founder and CEO of Custodia Bank. They delve into the intricacies of the stablecoin bill, its implications for banks and non-banks, and the broader competitive landscape. Caitlyn shares her experiences with regulatory challenges, including her lawsuit against the Federal Reserve, and the impact of regulatory decisions on innovation in the banking sector. They also explore the potential future of banking technology amidst growing crypto adoption and the regulatory environment.

(02:11) The Stablecoin Bill: Potential Winners and Losers
(05:06) The Banking System and Technological Innovation
(10:28) Community and Regional Banks: Challenges and Opportunities
(14:41) Non-Banks and the Future of Payments
(18:24) Banking Hierarchy and Fintech Licensing Models
(18:41) Trust Companies and Capital Requirements
(19:48) Regulatory Challenges Facing Fintech Companies
(20:23) β€œChoke Point 2.0” and Emerging Regulatory Pressures
(21:13) Litigation Involving the Federal Reserve
(22:06) The Fed’s Payment System and Potential Insider Influence
(24:50) Issues in Bank Regulation and Supervision
(33:10) Operation Choke Point and Allegations of Regulatory Overreach
(34:13) Bitcoin, Gold, and the Case for Financial Discipline

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