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EPISODE · May 25, 2026 · 21 MIN

America Is More Divided Than Ever. This Pastor Knows How to Fix It. | Pastor Hurmon Hamilton

from The CARLOS Podcast · host Carlos Watson

Big thanks to our partner, Dose. Give Dose a try today and get 35% off when you use code CARLOS. https://dosedaily.co/CARLOS   America feels like it's coming apart, and my guest today refuses to believe that's the end of the story. In this episode I sit down with Pastor Hurmon Hamilton, who has spent his life doing something most of us have stopped believing is possible: building real relationships across our deepest divides, race, money, politics, belief. Not by winning arguments, but by listening to people's stories until he finds the thing they actually share. His thesis is simple and it stuck with me long after we stopped recording: "I'm not in it for me. I'm in it for we." Hurmon opens up about where that conviction was forged, surviving severe chemical burns as a kid, growing up as the "disfigured" one at school, and the unexpected people who refused to give up on him. We talk about how he came to lead communities that were radically diverse across every line that usually divides us, and how interfaith organizing in Boston actually helped win universal healthcare, proof that empathy can change outcomes, not just hearts. It's the same conviction behind his book, "America's Last Best Hope: Building Bridges Across Differences The Jesus Way," that we can disagree and still love one another. He doesn't dodge the hard parts either. We get into how he nearly sabotaged his own marriage, the hidden pain so many leaders carry in silence, and the simple practices that keep him grounded when the weight gets heavy. This one isn't a sermon. It's an invitation. Thanks for being here, I think you're going to feel this one.   Here's what you can do: 👉 Join our membership community for early access, bonus episodes, and extra moments. 👉 Grab something from the online shop to represent the community wherever you are. 👉 If you're already a member, thank you, share this post with one person who loves real conversations.   Join the community: Shop Dose: https://dosedaily.co/CARLOS (code CARLOS for 35% off) Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/TheCarlosPodcast  Shop: https://thecarlospodcast.com/collections/the-carlos-podcast-merch  IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecarlospodcast  FB: https://www.facebook.com/thecarlospodcast  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thecarlospodcast  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thecarlospodcast  X: https://x.com/carlospodcast   00:00 Inside America's Most Radically Diverse Church 01:00 Three Breath Prayers That Can Change Your Life 01:38 How to Heal Fractured Families & Broken Relationships 03:05 The Miracle of Diversity Across Race, Money & Politics 04:13 Surviving Childhood Trauma: The Scars That Shaped Him 06:24 The Conversion Moment That Opened Every Door 08:48 From Honor Student to Community Organizer 11:24 Building Bridges the Jesus Way: His Book & His Mission 14:44 How He Almost Lost His Marriage 17:49 Who Hurmon Hamilton Is Beyond the Pulpit 20:15 The Hidden Pain Pastors Carry in Silence  

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