DO 97 - Lyndsie Bourgon w/ James Pogue

Lyndsie's talks with James about her book TREE THIEVES. They also discuss whether or not humans belong in landscapes, the enclosures of 16th C England and what that has to do with today, as well as the lessons from Lyndsie's book for conservationism and ecology in the American West today. James Pogue is an American essayist and journalist. He is a contributing editor at Harper's Magazine. His pieces have appeared on the covers of Harper's and The American Conservative. He is the author of Chosen Country: A Rebellion in the West, a first-person account of conflict over public lands in the American west.   Lyndsie Bourgon is a writer, researcher, oral historian, and 2018 National Geographic Explorer. She (mostly) writes about the environment and its entanglement with history, culture, and identity. Her features have been published in The Atlantic, Smithsonian, the Guardian, the Oxford American, Aeon, The Walrus, Hazlitt, and elsewhere. In 2018, she traveled to Peru with National Geographic to document indigenous experiences of timber theft. Her first book, TREE THIEVES, was published in June 2022. It uses timber poaching to explore questions of inequality, conservation history, and how the natural world defines who we are.   https://www.littlebrown.com/titles/lyndsie-bourgon/tree-thieves/9781549156120/