Drew and Ellie Holcomb

from Not Dead Yet · host Ricochet

Drew and Ellie join the guys to talk about family, art, and soul. Ben has no rhythm, but the musicians talk about art as ache, embodied prayer, and yearning for home. Also, make your kids listen to the Beatles.

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